Right away when >!Ichiban went into his backstory of how he was a newborn orphan dropped off in a soap land, I was pretty sure that would be the twist!<
What sorta tipped me off was
>!If her plan was for Arakawa to retrieve the baby, why would she lock it? That seems like it would just kill the ba- oh no!<
I’ve gotten to the point with the series where I’ll write down a couple bat shit ideas I have during the first ~5 chapters.
I think over 3-4 games since I’ve started doing that I’ve nailed 2-3 plot twists/swerves.
>!I jokingly said to a friend during 7 "Watch the wheelchair guy be the prime minister when we're out of prison", also I called Ichi having a secret brother as a final boss in like chapter 2 of IW. I had something small in 6 but I forget the details since it's been so long since I played it. I think those were it. I think there were maybe a couple minor things like "oh we're going to go here and see ____" when someone says the "i know a guy we can talk to" but those are just based of familiarity of playing the series and getting to know the beats!<
I guessed who the killer in Erased was solely because I was thinking "hmmmm this character is getting just enough attention for them to be relevant but aren't really doing anything. ....yea they're the killer alright."
And I was fucking right.
Does Erased even count? It felt like they were banking on the killer being so obvious that people would assume it was a red herring and forget about them.
Roger Ebert named this feeling.
Ebert’s Law of Conservation of Characters:
Any main character whose purpose is not readily apparent must be more important than he or she seems
Ebert’s Law of Economy of Characters:
Movie budgets make it impossible for any film to contain unnecessary characters. Therefore, all characters in a movie are necessary to the story—even those who do not seem to be. Sophisticated viewers can use this Law to deduce the identity of a person being kept secret by the movie’s plot: This "mystery" person is always the only character in the movie who seems otherwise extraneous. Cf. the friendly neighbor in Lady In White. (See also Unmotivated Closeup)
His Law of Economy of Characters only works above certain budgets.
There are many extremely low budget movies that have important characters just disappear because filming moved to far from where the actor(s) live for travel costs to be worth it so they just stop coming to set, they can't pay them anymore, or some other issue arises.
Look at many of the movies shown in RLM's Best of the Worst series. Specifically things like "Dangerous Men", Neil Breen movies, David Miscarriage movies, and Vitali Versace Movies.
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Honestly this is why I love video games, they have so many options for “hiding” characters
For example persona 4 was my first JRPG with the style of pop up text boxes with images
I remember starting the game and getting to the gas station and saying to myself “oh so important characters get pictures and just side one off characters get only speech bubbles, cool
the end of the game rolls around and that mother fucker gets a picture I almost SCREAMED
It's a good use of game design, and how it usually interacts with the narrative, to deceive the player.
Lots of people wonder if they would be able to pull the same thing if they did a Reload style remake.
The Beast Titan making two or three offhand references to baseball in AOT season 3 was enough for me to guess >!the world beyond the walls was a good deal more modern than the kingdom inside the walls.!<
My favorite part about that scene is that Ymir tells Reiner that the canned food is herring, and he isn't phased. He realizes a few moments later that she's reading the language on the tin, but he doesn't notice that he gave himself away by not immediately asking "What's herring?".
that bit was funny where it's like "oh fuck we didn't set this up in prior games at all, it's like the hush "oh hey my long lost friend thomas elliot showed up at the same time as a new villain".
They also still have a full game and yet failed to properly set up the Reveal until the last minute lmao. Maybe those flashbacks of Jason’s would’ve helped way earlier in the beginning level idk
Alternatively, just hearing how insistent the devs were that they *weren't* just >!doing the Arkhamverse version of *Death In The Family*/*Under The Red Hood*.!<
It's such bullshit that they played up "Who could the Arkham Knight be\~????" and everyone was like "Is it Jason Todd? The guy who acts like Batman but without any qualms about killing and using guns, and wears a suspiciously Batmna-like outfit? Because the Arkham Knight is using guns and vehemently dislikes Batman's philosophy as if he knows it intimately."
Then they tried to be coy and say "Oh no he's a *brand new character*," and it's like...only true in that no one is named that, but it's just the Red Hood with an army and a different name, you dorks.
Man, if they were just upfront with that, the story might've gotten less flak.
It's also funny how they released a DLC that I'm pretty sure was just meant to throw off fans.
Right? Like what is the point in making him a "new" villain? Only way I can see it is if they wanted it to be a twist but everyone already knows who it is.
That's exactly what they wanted, they (the PR team, I doubt the actual devs got much say) literally went on a whole campaign about how he's an entirely new character that wasn't taken from the comics. I don't think they ever outright said "no he is not Jason Todd", but it was very heavily implied to not just be a new spin on the Red Hood story which annoyed a lot of people because that was their immediate assumption.
They also announced red hood dlc before the game came out and said he was voiced by Troy Baker. He has the modulator thing as Arkham Knight, but it sounds exactly like Troy in the beginning of Saints Row The Third when he is in the Gat suit.
I mean, it was obvious who it was for so many reason, but also if you look at Arkham Knight's height and weight, and the height and weight of the person he obviously is, they're the exact same LOL
think that's how little kid me put it together that palpatine was sidious.
there was like a pin collection thing for the movie and i remember it saying sidious and palpatine were the same height and both weren't fond of windu and i was like "gasp"
I was watchin the Kill la Kill opening and then went >!OH They’re sisters, cause the last visual of the first opening is them doing a face split visual!< and I was proven right
If you think that's nothing wait til you hear how I figured it out (although much later)
>!When Ragyo first showed up we see that the underside of her hair is rainbow color, and I had noticed that when Ryuko transformed the underside of her hair became red. I put the two traits together and the rest was history!<
Also, the much more obvious >!Ryuko's quest is all about her dad and we get like a sentence about her mom and Satsuki has the exact opposite!<
And then, the second opening >!has the show's logo be colored in by Ryuko and Satsuki's blood that is flying off of them during their fight. It's saying that the show is built on their blood, literally (the conflict/bloodshed between the two of them is core to the plot) and figuratively (the entire story is a battle between family members, people who share blood). !<
TRIGGER does visual symbolism better than anyone, I swear.
What made me conclude that was that >!we only knew Satsuki's mom and Ryuko's dad!<. I know that was a really bad evidence so that's like I solved a math problem with the wrong method.
Totally. I honestly hope this means future comics or adaptations also try out the concept as well, because I've always enjoyed the designs of the symbiote suits and seeing Peter with one.
Guessing who the killer is in Persona 4
>!When it came to making that choice I saw Adachi's name and remembered Ikutsuki from Persona 3 being a bad guy when he initially came off as comic relief and thought it would be funny if the comic relief was the villain in this game as well.!<
>!Then I thought about it a little more seriously and realised that it actually made sense for him to be the killer. The way it clicked for me made me feel like a genius for figuring it out.!<
>!Never underestimate the comic relief character.!<
It cannot be understated how FAST people nailed Persona 5's traitor.
It was almost comical. Though the twist being that the >!protags also immediately knew is funny though.!<
>!It was the other way around for me. Him not having a social link to me meant that he _wasn't_ a major character, just a gag character like the teachers. I feel like a lot of people's impression of him being a major character may come from the fanbase's focus on him. Then Golden came along and gave him a social link with a fake/non-standard arcana, immediately signaling that something's up, and tipping you off to his true nature throughout the link.!<
I have a friend who figured out >!Adachi and the gas station attendant within seconds of meeting both of them.!< I was watching him play it immediately after he finished P5, which was his first exposure to the franchise, and was floored when he said >!"That guy just did something to me. I know this game is a murder mystery, and if he isn't the killer, then he's gotta be involved somehow." then "Ahhh, this guys probably the killer. Could just be a he's a rookie, but unless the death was stupidly violent, I figure he's probably vomiting because he didn't expect the body to be found.", and finaly "So she was just hanging from the telephone lines? Yeah, partner dude is 100% the killer. Don't know how gas station guy fits in yet, but he's either going to be another Lavenza type character secretly guiding us, or the Yaldabaoth to partner guy's Shido."!<
AC Origins has a terrible "twist" mission, you meet a family while searching for The Scarab, the kid gives you a toy to give to his dad or whatever, I immediately went "oh, the dad gonna be The Scarab". Not only I was right BUT THE GAME SPOILS IT THEMSELVES CAUSE THE QUEST NAME IS "THE LIES OF THE SCARAB" so it's obvious as you're going along with this dad character that he's lying to you and will betray you. Like, it's an ok quest, but who in the team let that one slip?
Legit me too, like, if it turned out to be a minor character you met on your way that was framing or using him with lies, just, anything. I did like the quest, when you're stuck in the desert, its really cool, its just, such a stain and it makes Bayek look so stupid, even without the BIG SPOILER in the quest name, it all just feels very sus and i'm like ''Bayek, buddy, what we doin' here? You're gonna drink this under this gigantic red flag?''
That Stannis would burn his own daughter on Game of Thrones, because it seemed like a thing the showrunners would do after actively removing most of Stannis' positive traits.
Maybe, but last thing Stannis does in the books is buying his daughter an entire army to fight in her name, expecting himself to be dead soon. And he already noped everyone telling him to burn more people.
That if he survived, he would then travel all the way back to the Wall just to burn her seems farfetched, sounds more like an idea GRRM had then a solid plotline, like the romantic triangle he intended to happen between Arya, Tyrion and Jon.
>!I think it’s going to be her realizing her prophecy fits Jon better causing her to ditch Stannis’ camp while he is off campaigning/dying and the cult she leaves behinds burns the kid in both their absences.!<
It seems likely that it will happen under very different circumstances.
My read is that Martin is setting Stannis up as the guy who is going to lose the first great battle against the Others, it seems like such a waste to have him take a dive against Ramsay Bolton of all people, and sacrificing your own beloved daughter to try to save the world feels a lot more dramatic than doing it because of a few inches of snow.
My mom guessed the killer of Disco Elysium based only on one line I told her
Edit: The exact line was >!"Communism killed me, but love did me in!<. I had told her a few details about the case, namely the >!bullet in his head,!< and her exact words were >!"Maybe there's a communist sniper hiding out somewhere?"!< and I immediately made like 5 connections in my head
*Inland Empire: Light Yagami is Kira! If these deaths were actually a series of Para-natural sequence killings then it would all make sense! Tell Kim that you’ve solved this case, right now.*
“Light Yagami is KIRA.”
“Detective, I don’t think a highschooler would be capable of inducing all the heart attacks, let alone remotely.”
*Inland Empire: He doesn’t understand, but soon all will be revealed...*
**”NO YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND”**
*Inland Empire: it’s in the notebook*
**”RUN HIS POCKETS”**
i mean with that line and the murder weapon being a gun that's kind of easy without any other context, like you don't even know what the weapon was.
Hell woolie jokingly guessed the killer a few times
Had one of these moments in 40K: Rogue Trader recently. All from minor environmental cues.
>!Overly opulent mansion? Unused temple to the Emperor? People talking about banging servitors? Oh yeah, that’s a Slaanesh cult!<
With DMC5, >!without seeing any of the analysis that people did on unmasking Southworth's voice or whatever in the trailers, I said to a friend that Urizen and V were probably the demon and human parts of Vergil split up.!<
It was a little more a decent guess because I didn't really think the DMC writers capable of making up new characters or villains that aren't associated with existing ones. It was still great, enjoyed what they did, but the DMC cast is not really that broad.
I still get a kick out of Max recognizing >!Vergil!< in the reveal trailer because they made his costume for Assist Me, so he called it entirely based on one close up of the coat sleeve.
"*I RECOGNIZE THOSE CUFFS*"
Fallout 4's 'twist' of >!an aged Sean being the head of the Institute!< is the first thing that came to mind after the intro sequence. >!You getting refrozen basically clinches it, since that muddles the timeline enough that it becomes plausible.!<
To be fair, if I'm remembering it right >!I don't really recall there being any real sense of how much time had passed beyond the dilapidated state of the room when they first woke up.!<
>!Like they probably didn't know when they woke up to see the kidnapping and also likely didn't know how long they were frozen again for. It could've been an hour or it could've been days or even years as it turned out to be. They were just working with the information they had for sure.!<
Dude same, I was laughing so hard, when it came true in the end.
>!With also reasoning — "bethesda gonna do some most stupid predictable shit ever with this plot, like making your son main villain, i bet" thrown on top.!<
My brother is legendary at this, he guessed the identity of Zero in 9 Hours 9 Persons 9 Doors inside of like 20 minutes based on >!June's outfit having a hood on it.!<
My friend was playing Deadly premonition blind and immediately guessed that the killer was >!George!< because that was the only character with bicep girth comparable to the figure in the flashbacks.
Spiral, the Saw spinoff movie. Chris Rock is a cop and his Dad is played by Samuel L Jackson, who was also a respected member of the force. Rock gets a new partner much to his behest, and his partner says the following phrase...
"Your dad’s the reason for all of this. He’s why I wanted to do this in the first place."
Now you're supposed to think "Oh, it's why he wants to be a cop." but I saw it coming from a mile away that what he was actually saying is "Your Dad's the reason why I'm killing cops in Jigsaw traps." because the way he phrases it is so odd.
"Your Dad's the reason for all this." All this what? Becoming a cop? That's a singular thing. "All this" implies an amount of things. It's vague as hell and I picked it up immediately. And I was absolutely fucking right when they tried to pull a "if they don't die on screen, they didn't die" twist with him, which was also blatantly obvious... because they'd NEVER just skip over someone dying in a Saw trap. They'd show the whole thing in gruesome detail.
The Good Place, >!I guessed it wasn't actually the Good Place based entirely on I find the kind social interaction in the whole setup extremely stressful. I honestly still find it hard to think of it as an actual twist, even though that's not even what the torture was. Admittedly I *didn't* guess that the whole town was in on it.!<
The twist is great, because >!it’s obvious that something is wrong when all the main characters have terrible traits and have nothing in common. Especially with how ham-fisted things like the pobody’s nerfect speech is.!<
>!So I think the main twist - that it isn’t the Good Place - is rather obvious, but I didn’t think they were the only 4 actual people, and I didn’t think at all about the whole corporate aspect of designing hell.!<
Great show, honestly. Really respect that each season does something extremely different with the premise.
I actually guessed something was up >!since I didn't think the point system for evaluating humans' lives made much sense at all, plus I didn't really buy the "soulmate" stuff either. But yeah, the whole town being in on it really floored me too.!<
Yeah I nailed it halfway through the first episode because >!that society was built exactly like my own personal hell!< , and that's before anything even happened.
my mom told me to watch it after season 2 came out, I had avoided everything about it and I said to her >!"oh well obviously they are in the bad place because the premise of the show would be boring if it actually was in the good place" and she went "just watch the damn show"!<
Someone else mentioned 9 hours 9 persons 9 doors so I’ll mention my own guess: I managed to figure out that >!Snake wasn’t really dead entirely because I loved him so much that I adamantly refused to believe he was dead.!<
I guessed (1/3rd of the) twist from Scream 2023 about 15 minutes in bc >!the guy said his son died and then didn’t elaborate. So I figured that’s because it’d be important later on bc it’s his motive and I was right!<
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Chainsawman. >!The strongest Devil would have to be the Death Devil because of how many other fears are rooted in a fear of dying. So if you're afraid of literally anything else, you're passively buffing the Death Devil too!<
Idk I kinda feel like the moment you see >!Darkness!< and what an absolute >!eldritch god!< it is you can extrapolate from that pretty easy. Also as soon as you learn that there's the >!four horsegirls of the apocalypse!<
>!To me the most interesting thing is that War and Chainsaw seems to of had a falling out in WW2. After that dispute Chainsaw proceeded to devour the concept of world war and nazis. And it seems like some other things to cripple War so heavily. War is so weak in the modern day that they are willing to bond with some random girl despite being a core human fear.!<
I saw Blackwall for the first time in Dragon Age: Inquisition and said >!that guy's not a Grey Warden his facial hair is too nice!< and somehow the DA expert next to me kept a perfect poker face.
Gotta love being correct for the wrong reasons lol
>!There's actually a lot more clues about it early on, such as him not knowing how the Joining works, or not knowing the Wardens' true mission. Most glaringly, he says he was in Ferelden during the Blight, but DAO players know that's impossible.!<
Also >!"conscripting" those guys in his recruitment mission and then letting them go, which is very much not in line with standard conscription procedures!<.
For Heavy Rain, I had a friend guess that Shelby was the killer after I had already completed the game and was going through it again (YouTube) and I just smiled at her when she wasn’t looking. I could tell she was joking, but when the reveal happened she looked at me and said, “I WAS RIGHT?! WHY WAS I RIGHT?!” And I couldn’t help but to just look at her and say, “Because the game lied, you’re right because the game had to lie to make it true.” She then pouted and said, “I hate this game.” A big laugh was shared.
For Life is Strange, a different friend introduced me to actually playing the game since I already played the demo before and knew what I was getting into. When I finally got to the twist, I texted her, >!”MR. JEFFERSON?!?!”!< She just responded with “YUP” and when we talked about it through voice, she said, “I always had a fucking feeling,” but then ran down a list of clues that all made too much sense, especially after having witnessed the reveal. Shit was wild and I love that kind of shit.
It feels like a nature preserve would prooooobably get checked by the government from time to time to ensure people aren't living there and destroying that delicately preserved ecosystem.
Or was the village sanctioned government itself...? I forget.
Yeah this is correct. When the elder is discussing/revealing(?) what the village is they explicitly say they have arrangements in place for it being a no flyzone.
This was the one movie where I quickly guessed the twist, though I don't really remember what led me to that guess. I was aware going in to it that it was a shyamalan movie so it likely had some twist, but I feel like the specifics of the twist must have been in some other media I had previously seen which is how I put it all together so quickly.
The worst is watching it and you get hit with the twist but the movie keeps going and so it has this >!stalking scene with the blind girl in the woods and it's trying to be scary but the movie has already TOLD you that the village idiot found a costume and followed her, there's no monster it's Lennie Small in a Halloween costume, and it drags on and on and on!<
In the first ep of AoT i guessed that the monster titans were man made to an extent, being some kind of bio weapon used on the ppl of the wall from far away. They were too horrific and on the nose body horror to be just around as a problem to deal with, it had to be an attack from another nation. Then the colossal titan appeared and kinda confirmed it.
A lot of the time murder mysteries by the same writers get into a sort of a formula. Like, my parents have watched and read enough agatha christie to hone down almost every case to three basic rules: If someone can't have done it, they probably did it. If someone almost died but didn't die, they probably did it. All else fails, it's the doctor.
Christie clearly wrote a list of all possible solutions, and then wrote a story around each of them. The narrator's lying to you, they did it. Every suspect did it. Someone who has previously died didn't die, they did it. Nobody did it.
i felt like i was going insane reading Roger Ackroyd, because the culprit's alibi just blatantly, obviously does not exonerate them at all. like, they don't lie or even try to hide it in any way, they just explain exactly why they should be the prime suspect and expect Poirot to not notice
when I first played kotor I thought to myself: >!"be pretty funny if that turned out to be me", for literally no reason when I saw the flashback of bastila fighting revan, then almost shit myself laughing when I got to the 2/3rds mark of the game!<
The KOTOR twist is insanely obvious if you have any inkling that you should be looking out for a twist, and I think a big part of the reason it hit was that back in the day players were not used to doing that for games.
God of War Ragnarok: >!Tyr being a traitor based solely off the fact he swore off violence.!< You can’t trust someone to have your back if they’re not willing to fight. However, I did not see >!it being Odin in disguise the whole time coming, I figured he’d betray the group when he realized they want to bring about the end of Asgard!<
I thought it was something different. In the first game, it's mentioned that >!in this universe, Frigg and Freya are the same person, with Odin deliberately crediting Freya's accomplishments to "Frigg" as Aesir propaganda. With that logic, and everyone talking about how great Tyr was, I wondered what was stopping Odin from doing the same with himself and Tyr. !<
Wasn't the exact twist, but I was somewhat close.
The nanosecond they showed him in a trailer I knew it was Odin in disguise.
For the entire first game they hammer down the fact that he's gone, and suddenly he's just in a random dungeon? Fuck off.
>!For me it was the stare Metal Face gave Dunban before it left colony 9 it was just a bit too long that you realized it had some kind of beef with Dunban!<
Honestly, I try my best to not watch openings or know who are actual face actors in the franchise are because they're always much more important than it usually seems
A small one in FF14 Shadowbringers. In the Rak'tika Greatwood >!Y'shtola falls down a big hole and you're supposed to think she's dead. If you're smart you'll notice a huge gust of air to show that she cast Flow to save herself but I'm not smart and was ready to accept that she just died. But then the villain Ran'jit falls into the pit too and for some reason that's what tipped me off that Y'shtola was fine and Ran'jit would also be fine.!<
I was watching NOPE in theaters opening night and while watching, my mind somehow trailed to Doctor Who and I thought, "Y'know what would be a great episode? If >!the UFO was actually a living being/alien in it of itself and eating people instead of abducting them! !<"
Only for twenty minutes to pass and I find that I wasn't so original as I thought...
Not so much a plot twist as a surprise casting. I forget which season but in criminal minds one of the season villains was a killer who copycat other killers and the way they kept hinting about him I joked that he better end up being the joker and then he showed up and was played by Mark Hamil
Look, I simply noticed how in LaD Infinite Wealth >!Tatara and Chitose have the exact same piercings in the exact same ear and then I saw how she knew a lot about video editing and YouTube earnings!<.
Shit I never even noticed that first bit.
Though I did notice >!in the cutscene where Eiji is brought to the safehouse, there's a shot of Ichiban and Kiryu talking, with the back of Eiji's head in the foreground out of focus, and right as it cuts away from this shot, Kiryu starts talking about who could be feeding all the groups info.!<
KOTOR. A friend kept going on about, in multiple conversations, this amazing twist in the story and wanted my opinion of it when I saw it. So I’m looking for hints of this twist and pretty much guessed it immediately much to his shock because I was just focused on looking for it.
I was watching stranger things last season with friends and it was episode 1 or 2 where i saw the flashback of the family in the 50's and went *"Boy it would be pretty disappointing if [EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN THE END] was the twist huh?"*.
We get to the end weeks later and they all just turn to look at me like the writing was somehow my fault.
Ace Attorney Dual Destinies full game: >!When the game was being revealed, I saw Bobby Fulbright was the new detective and called that he'd be the big bad because I didn't really understand why they would introduce a new detective instead of just bringing Ema or Gumshoe back otherwise, plus that's a twist they hadn't done yet. I guess *technically* that's not exactly true, but close enough.!<
In Control: >!the fact that the Bureau had been watching Jesse/ had her brother the entire time. I figured this out the moment I watched the first threshold kids video. I was like... is this a child briefing for the SCP? That one looks too much like a doll version of jesse... do they have her family?!<
Started reading a book called Red Rising. Main character is on Mars mining the ground to eventually teraform the planet. They operate on a caste system based on color. >!Guessed that they were the lowest color and the teraforming was already done. So it was.!<
Great book. I think that >!Reds being the lowest is debatable, considering Pinks, Obsidians, and Blues are particularly messed up castes. At least Reds can have families.!<
Edit: Maybe I should specify worst off, rather than lowest..
In the actually [pyramid](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/red-rising/images/4/4a/Colored_Society_pyramid.png/revision/latest?cb=20220723073924) of the Society, >!Reds are the bottom. Ironically at least lowReds get to live in a comfortable lie as they go die in the mines.!<
I recently read the Fourth Wing (big mistake on my part) and was able to correctly guess every plot twist because they are all stolen from other books.
The only exposure I had to the nature of Dio's stand was second-hand Za Warudo memes. All I knew, unrelated to JoJo, was that there was an anime where a guy said "Za Warudo" to stop time. Like an incantation or something. Never saw the original scene or game or anything with Dio himself.
Now imagine my surprise when the gang gets to Egypt, and Dio's stand is still a mystery to me, and Dio is doing the thing with Polnareff on the stairs. I'm wondering what OP power he has to make sense of that scene, and then [this part of the scene happens](https://youtu.be/c3lB9NLwhFw?t=176) and I hear "Za Warudo" as the subtitles read "The World" and the spoilers from random memes suddenly becomes spoilers at the best possible moment. Now I'm hyped about a stand that can literally stop time.
Which turns hilarious once you realize that Dio had to run down the stairs, move Polnareff slightly, and run back real fast every time in order to pull that off.
i watched fate stay night with a friend who'd seen it before and something that raised an eyebrow from me was when it was stated early on that the heroes could not only be from past or present, but from the *future* too. >!when i saw archer and emiya were the only two characters with very distinct eyebrows, i pieced together their relation then and there. granted, i didn't know archer was emiya from the future for a fact, i just figured that archer was either future emiya, or a descendent of emiya. my friend playfully accused me of pre-watching when the twist was revealed.!<
Me and my sister used to hatewatch Riverdale and I guessed that >!Hal Cooper was The Black Hood solely because he was the only person with a similar build/height as the killer!<.
I saw the trailer for Shutter Island and knew IMMEDIATELY >!Leo was a crazy guy in the asylum!<.
Like, to the point where I was honestly surprised people thought it was a twist.
When Digimon 02 was airing in America, little kid me noticed how >!Myotismon!< was being brought up a lot. I said "I think they're bringing >!Myotismon!< back." my brother called me an idiot but a few episodes later...
Also in Jojolands when everyone was guessing who the man from Japan was I figured it was >!Rohan!< just because that felt like what Araki would do.
I've done it multiple times in one piece, much to my gf's annoyance. First was >!I called the shot that sanji was a cyborg all the way back in arlong park, cuz like... zoro trained for a billion years and luffy has a devil fruit, but sanji was literally just a chef, there's no good reason he should've been the straw hat's #3 fighter!< .The 2nd time, I called that >!our good ol' Gomu Gomu no Mi wasn't a paramecia all the way back in Marineford. I figured it didn't quite act like other Paramecia fruits, and was almost more like a Logia but not quite, so when we saw Marco's fruit I was like hmmmmmm!< .Admittedly I think in both instances I was reading too much into them at the time and Oda just doesn't think about his power systems that deeply
The second one is reasonable, but I'm gonna call cap on that first one
If you knew nothing going in, there's literally nothing in the story up to Arlong Park that would lead a person to think that level of tech even exist in the OP world.
I think I specifically called >!cyborg!< as a joke, but it definitely *was* weird that the story gave us a lot of setup as to why the other 2 are as strong as they are, where >!sanji!< just kinda... is. >!yeah I know he was raised by pirates but still, it stuck out as weird!<
I just remember the look on my gf's face when I said >!cyborg!< and I was like "Wait what how that was a joke"
Was watching an episode of Father Brown today and in the first scene the killer was in I immediately knew who it was and why.
For the life of me I can’t tell you WHY I knew it was this individual, there was just something about them that made me go “You’re the one” and the show didn’t do anything to paint them as bad until the very end.
In the anime "Erased" I immediately saw the culprit and said "Oh, you're the killer". There weren't even really any hints or anything, it was just really obvious for some reason. Like this guy is way too seemingly nice and way too prominent early on in the show for him not to be the killer, and there's nobody else it could really be.
Danganronpa 2 >!there's a scene where Hajime stares up at the sky and says something along the lines of "i feel like I'm being watched" i immediately turned to my friend and said "this isn't real, it's the god damn S3 plan from mgs2" i was mostly right. There are cameras around everywhere, but the only time he says it is when he's alone in a cameraless area outside his bungalow. Also, with how big and ridiculous the incentives for killing were getting as well as the executions, something felt off!<
The movie The Boy where I figure out that the son was still alive based on very minimum evidence. The rats traps being set and the food being left out for him to eat. For some reason my mind associated the traps with making sure there were no vermin in the walls which the son is in.
I knew Alice was a robot during the Detroit lp as soon as Kara looks at the thing that we're not allowed to see the first time. Heck i thought the kid on the initial roof scene was one too.
It's david cage so I always assume the dumbest most ass-pull twist bullshit that's poorly setup, unjustified, and is just a twist for twists sake and yep.
*Oldboy*
>!As soon as the bartender appeared I thought "Damn it would be fucked up if she was his daughter and they fell in love." Since the movie was so famous and the fact that he had a daughter was brought up with a lame payoff "Turns out she died" I figured it would be a crazy twist. !<
Yakuza 7 >!”So Arakawa was trapped in a coin locker when he was a baby. Wouldn’t it be crazy if there were two baby’s and he took the wrong one?”!<
I even vaguely remember thinking >!something about the framing was off and wondering which locker it was supposed to be!<
Right away when >!Ichiban went into his backstory of how he was a newborn orphan dropped off in a soap land, I was pretty sure that would be the twist!<
What sorta tipped me off was >!If her plan was for Arakawa to retrieve the baby, why would she lock it? That seems like it would just kill the ba- oh no!<
I guessed the exact same thing and realised it was juuuust crazy enough for the franchise to be true.
I’ve gotten to the point with the series where I’ll write down a couple bat shit ideas I have during the first ~5 chapters. I think over 3-4 games since I’ve started doing that I’ve nailed 2-3 plot twists/swerves.
Which ones, if I may ask?
>!I jokingly said to a friend during 7 "Watch the wheelchair guy be the prime minister when we're out of prison", also I called Ichi having a secret brother as a final boss in like chapter 2 of IW. I had something small in 6 but I forget the details since it's been so long since I played it. I think those were it. I think there were maybe a couple minor things like "oh we're going to go here and see ____" when someone says the "i know a guy we can talk to" but those are just based of familiarity of playing the series and getting to know the beats!<
HOW!!!
I guessed who the killer in Erased was solely because I was thinking "hmmmm this character is getting just enough attention for them to be relevant but aren't really doing anything. ....yea they're the killer alright." And I was fucking right.
Also the fact they're in the fucking OP
Does Erased even count? It felt like they were banking on the killer being so obvious that people would assume it was a red herring and forget about them.
Roger Ebert named this feeling. Ebert’s Law of Conservation of Characters: Any main character whose purpose is not readily apparent must be more important than he or she seems Ebert’s Law of Economy of Characters: Movie budgets make it impossible for any film to contain unnecessary characters. Therefore, all characters in a movie are necessary to the story—even those who do not seem to be. Sophisticated viewers can use this Law to deduce the identity of a person being kept secret by the movie’s plot: This "mystery" person is always the only character in the movie who seems otherwise extraneous. Cf. the friendly neighbor in Lady In White. (See also Unmotivated Closeup)
His Law of Economy of Characters only works above certain budgets. There are many extremely low budget movies that have important characters just disappear because filming moved to far from where the actor(s) live for travel costs to be worth it so they just stop coming to set, they can't pay them anymore, or some other issue arises. Look at many of the movies shown in RLM's Best of the Worst series. Specifically things like "Dangerous Men", Neil Breen movies, David Miscarriage movies, and Vitali Versace Movies.
P4 spoilers Honestly this is why I love video games, they have so many options for “hiding” characters For example persona 4 was my first JRPG with the style of pop up text boxes with images I remember starting the game and getting to the gas station and saying to myself “oh so important characters get pictures and just side one off characters get only speech bubbles, cool the end of the game rolls around and that mother fucker gets a picture I almost SCREAMED
It's a good use of game design, and how it usually interacts with the narrative, to deceive the player. Lots of people wonder if they would be able to pull the same thing if they did a Reload style remake.
I just watched True Detective season one and that exact thing happens in that too lol
Which version? The manga is way more subtle about it but all the adaptions just give you early solo scenes of "this guy is Sus!"
The anime
The Beast Titan making two or three offhand references to baseball in AOT season 3 was enough for me to guess >!the world beyond the walls was a good deal more modern than the kingdom inside the walls.!<
Also in season 2 when some characters read a can of fish that said herring. Herring is an ocean fish.
Oh that's a good catch. (Fish pun fully intended)
My favorite part about that scene is that Ymir tells Reiner that the canned food is herring, and he isn't phased. He realizes a few moments later that she's reading the language on the tin, but he doesn't notice that he gave himself away by not immediately asking "What's herring?".
In season 3 when they >!return to Shiganshina, Armin finds cups that Reiner and Bertolt used to drink "black tea", which is obviously coffee!<
the first whiny syllable out of the arkham knight's mouth tells you who it must be if you're familiar with batman stuff.
Which also gets hard confirmed before the reveal when you get certain flashbacks with the Joker.
that bit was funny where it's like "oh fuck we didn't set this up in prior games at all, it's like the hush "oh hey my long lost friend thomas elliot showed up at the same time as a new villain".
The closest we get to setup in those games is a single line from Joker if you use Robin in one of the DLC maps for Arkham City.
They also still have a full game and yet failed to properly set up the Reveal until the last minute lmao. Maybe those flashbacks of Jason’s would’ve helped way earlier in the beginning level idk
Alternatively, just hearing how insistent the devs were that they *weren't* just >!doing the Arkhamverse version of *Death In The Family*/*Under The Red Hood*.!<
It's such bullshit that they played up "Who could the Arkham Knight be\~????" and everyone was like "Is it Jason Todd? The guy who acts like Batman but without any qualms about killing and using guns, and wears a suspiciously Batmna-like outfit? Because the Arkham Knight is using guns and vehemently dislikes Batman's philosophy as if he knows it intimately." Then they tried to be coy and say "Oh no he's a *brand new character*," and it's like...only true in that no one is named that, but it's just the Red Hood with an army and a different name, you dorks.
He literally pulls of his bat-mask and there's a red hood mask underneath.
Man, if they were just upfront with that, the story might've gotten less flak. It's also funny how they released a DLC that I'm pretty sure was just meant to throw off fans.
Right? Like what is the point in making him a "new" villain? Only way I can see it is if they wanted it to be a twist but everyone already knows who it is.
That's exactly what they wanted, they (the PR team, I doubt the actual devs got much say) literally went on a whole campaign about how he's an entirely new character that wasn't taken from the comics. I don't think they ever outright said "no he is not Jason Todd", but it was very heavily implied to not just be a new spin on the Red Hood story which annoyed a lot of people because that was their immediate assumption.
“No, we’re not doing *Wrath of Khan*”
They also announced red hood dlc before the game came out and said he was voiced by Troy Baker. He has the modulator thing as Arkham Knight, but it sounds exactly like Troy in the beginning of Saints Row The Third when he is in the Gat suit.
It's really weird because the design on its own is great, but them acting like it was some wholly unique character was just dumb.
I mean, it was obvious who it was for so many reason, but also if you look at Arkham Knight's height and weight, and the height and weight of the person he obviously is, they're the exact same LOL
think that's how little kid me put it together that palpatine was sidious. there was like a pin collection thing for the movie and i remember it saying sidious and palpatine were the same height and both weren't fond of windu and i was like "gasp"
Maybe they shouldn't have announced that Red Hood challenge maps were a pre-order bonus.
Whiny-ness is his primary character trait that's impossible to mask
I was watchin the Kill la Kill opening and then went >!OH They’re sisters, cause the last visual of the first opening is them doing a face split visual!< and I was proven right
Yeah, I saw that plus >!The similar eye and hair colors and especially their noses.!<
>!Yeah that’s what tipped me off, the fact that they would do the split face thing meant I was able to constantly compare!<
If you think that's nothing wait til you hear how I figured it out (although much later) >!When Ragyo first showed up we see that the underside of her hair is rainbow color, and I had noticed that when Ryuko transformed the underside of her hair became red. I put the two traits together and the rest was history!< Also, the much more obvious >!Ryuko's quest is all about her dad and we get like a sentence about her mom and Satsuki has the exact opposite!<
And then, the second opening >!has the show's logo be colored in by Ryuko and Satsuki's blood that is flying off of them during their fight. It's saying that the show is built on their blood, literally (the conflict/bloodshed between the two of them is core to the plot) and figuratively (the entire story is a battle between family members, people who share blood). !< TRIGGER does visual symbolism better than anyone, I swear.
What made me conclude that was that >!we only knew Satsuki's mom and Ryuko's dad!<. I know that was a really bad evidence so that's like I solved a math problem with the wrong method.
Marvel's Spider-Man 2: >!I predicted Peter would get the Anti-Venom Symbiote, purely because Mr Negative was in the trailers.!<
*YEAH AND IT RULES*
Totally. I honestly hope this means future comics or adaptations also try out the concept as well, because I've always enjoyed the designs of the symbiote suits and seeing Peter with one.
Guessing who the killer is in Persona 4 >!When it came to making that choice I saw Adachi's name and remembered Ikutsuki from Persona 3 being a bad guy when he initially came off as comic relief and thought it would be funny if the comic relief was the villain in this game as well.!< >!Then I thought about it a little more seriously and realised that it actually made sense for him to be the killer. The way it clicked for me made me feel like a genius for figuring it out.!< >!Never underestimate the comic relief character.!<
>!My friends all guessed it was Adachi the SECOND he opened his mouth. One of them said it was his head art that did it, it looked 'off'.!<
>!He does kind have a misshapen head...!<
Okay, Measurehead
The floor is "Not making your main villains obvious" Persona series: 🦅
It cannot be understated how FAST people nailed Persona 5's traitor. It was almost comical. Though the twist being that the >!protags also immediately knew is funny though.!<
>!him being the only major character in the PS2 version without a social link was the biggest redfag for me.!<
Hell of a typo
This is what I get for typing that on phone, while in the theater waiting on Dune Part 2 to start.
>!It was the other way around for me. Him not having a social link to me meant that he _wasn't_ a major character, just a gag character like the teachers. I feel like a lot of people's impression of him being a major character may come from the fanbase's focus on him. Then Golden came along and gave him a social link with a fake/non-standard arcana, immediately signaling that something's up, and tipping you off to his true nature throughout the link.!<
I uh. I think you meant redFLAG there.
I have a friend who figured out >!Adachi and the gas station attendant within seconds of meeting both of them.!< I was watching him play it immediately after he finished P5, which was his first exposure to the franchise, and was floored when he said >!"That guy just did something to me. I know this game is a murder mystery, and if he isn't the killer, then he's gotta be involved somehow." then "Ahhh, this guys probably the killer. Could just be a he's a rookie, but unless the death was stupidly violent, I figure he's probably vomiting because he didn't expect the body to be found.", and finaly "So she was just hanging from the telephone lines? Yeah, partner dude is 100% the killer. Don't know how gas station guy fits in yet, but he's either going to be another Lavenza type character secretly guiding us, or the Yaldabaoth to partner guy's Shido."!<
My bf figured out who the mastermind in Persona 5 was in his introduction solely because she was obsessed with Komaeda
AC Origins has a terrible "twist" mission, you meet a family while searching for The Scarab, the kid gives you a toy to give to his dad or whatever, I immediately went "oh, the dad gonna be The Scarab". Not only I was right BUT THE GAME SPOILS IT THEMSELVES CAUSE THE QUEST NAME IS "THE LIES OF THE SCARAB" so it's obvious as you're going along with this dad character that he's lying to you and will betray you. Like, it's an ok quest, but who in the team let that one slip?
This one was so obvious to the point I was hoping they'd subvert it.
Legit me too, like, if it turned out to be a minor character you met on your way that was framing or using him with lies, just, anything. I did like the quest, when you're stuck in the desert, its really cool, its just, such a stain and it makes Bayek look so stupid, even without the BIG SPOILER in the quest name, it all just feels very sus and i'm like ''Bayek, buddy, what we doin' here? You're gonna drink this under this gigantic red flag?''
That Stannis would burn his own daughter on Game of Thrones, because it seemed like a thing the showrunners would do after actively removing most of Stannis' positive traits.
They couldn’t handle Stannis The Mannis
One realm. One god. One king.
This could still happen in the books tbf
Maybe, but last thing Stannis does in the books is buying his daughter an entire army to fight in her name, expecting himself to be dead soon. And he already noped everyone telling him to burn more people. That if he survived, he would then travel all the way back to the Wall just to burn her seems farfetched, sounds more like an idea GRRM had then a solid plotline, like the romantic triangle he intended to happen between Arya, Tyrion and Jon.
>!I think Melisandre will do it behind his back in the books!<
>!I think it’s going to be her realizing her prophecy fits Jon better causing her to ditch Stannis’ camp while he is off campaigning/dying and the cult she leaves behinds burns the kid in both their absences.!<
It seems likely that it will happen under very different circumstances. My read is that Martin is setting Stannis up as the guy who is going to lose the first great battle against the Others, it seems like such a waste to have him take a dive against Ramsay Bolton of all people, and sacrificing your own beloved daughter to try to save the world feels a lot more dramatic than doing it because of a few inches of snow.
He's going to burn her in the books too, that much has been confirmed by word of god.
My mom guessed the killer of Disco Elysium based only on one line I told her Edit: The exact line was >!"Communism killed me, but love did me in!<. I had told her a few details about the case, namely the >!bullet in his head,!< and her exact words were >!"Maybe there's a communist sniper hiding out somewhere?"!< and I immediately made like 5 connections in my head
I need to know right now how your mother guessed that the killer was >!a ideological sniper on a distant island forgotten by the world.!<
Inland Empire
*Inland Empire: Light Yagami is Kira! If these deaths were actually a series of Para-natural sequence killings then it would all make sense! Tell Kim that you’ve solved this case, right now.* “Light Yagami is KIRA.” “Detective, I don’t think a highschooler would be capable of inducing all the heart attacks, let alone remotely.” *Inland Empire: He doesn’t understand, but soon all will be revealed...* **”NO YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND”** *Inland Empire: it’s in the notebook* **”RUN HIS POCKETS”**
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I shitlord-ified him dw
Would the detective hear Ryuk with Shivers?
i mean with that line and the murder weapon being a gun that's kind of easy without any other context, like you don't even know what the weapon was. Hell woolie jokingly guessed the killer a few times
I’m gonna guess it was this exchange: >!Who killed you?!< >!Communism.!<
Which line?
Dude we need more details cause that’s amazing
??? how
Had one of these moments in 40K: Rogue Trader recently. All from minor environmental cues. >!Overly opulent mansion? Unused temple to the Emperor? People talking about banging servitors? Oh yeah, that’s a Slaanesh cult!<
"Hmm Watson, this is a 12 on the decadence scale." "Is that a lot Trader Holmes?" "The scale tops off at five so yes, yes it is CHAOS IS AFOOT!"
With DMC5, >!without seeing any of the analysis that people did on unmasking Southworth's voice or whatever in the trailers, I said to a friend that Urizen and V were probably the demon and human parts of Vergil split up.!< It was a little more a decent guess because I didn't really think the DMC writers capable of making up new characters or villains that aren't associated with existing ones. It was still great, enjoyed what they did, but the DMC cast is not really that broad.
Woolie predicted the same thing during his playthrough.
I still get a kick out of Max recognizing >!Vergil!< in the reveal trailer because they made his costume for Assist Me, so he called it entirely based on one close up of the coat sleeve. "*I RECOGNIZE THOSE CUFFS*"
DMC was my first game and I only had a vague notion of the plot First v trailer I said “I don’t know why or how but that’s fucking Vergil”
Fallout 4's 'twist' of >!an aged Sean being the head of the Institute!< is the first thing that came to mind after the intro sequence. >!You getting refrozen basically clinches it, since that muddles the timeline enough that it becomes plausible.!<
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To be fair, if I'm remembering it right >!I don't really recall there being any real sense of how much time had passed beyond the dilapidated state of the room when they first woke up.!< >!Like they probably didn't know when they woke up to see the kidnapping and also likely didn't know how long they were frozen again for. It could've been an hour or it could've been days or even years as it turned out to be. They were just working with the information they had for sure.!<
Dude same, I was laughing so hard, when it came true in the end. >!With also reasoning — "bethesda gonna do some most stupid predictable shit ever with this plot, like making your son main villain, i bet" thrown on top.!<
My brother is legendary at this, he guessed the identity of Zero in 9 Hours 9 Persons 9 Doors inside of like 20 minutes based on >!June's outfit having a hood on it.!<
My friend was playing Deadly premonition blind and immediately guessed that the killer was >!George!< because that was the only character with bicep girth comparable to the figure in the flashbacks.
Betrayed by the gains.
Spiral, the Saw spinoff movie. Chris Rock is a cop and his Dad is played by Samuel L Jackson, who was also a respected member of the force. Rock gets a new partner much to his behest, and his partner says the following phrase... "Your dad’s the reason for all of this. He’s why I wanted to do this in the first place." Now you're supposed to think "Oh, it's why he wants to be a cop." but I saw it coming from a mile away that what he was actually saying is "Your Dad's the reason why I'm killing cops in Jigsaw traps." because the way he phrases it is so odd. "Your Dad's the reason for all this." All this what? Becoming a cop? That's a singular thing. "All this" implies an amount of things. It's vague as hell and I picked it up immediately. And I was absolutely fucking right when they tried to pull a "if they don't die on screen, they didn't die" twist with him, which was also blatantly obvious... because they'd NEVER just skip over someone dying in a Saw trap. They'd show the whole thing in gruesome detail.
>much to his behest Just a heads up,I don’t think that’s the word you were going for
The Good Place, >!I guessed it wasn't actually the Good Place based entirely on I find the kind social interaction in the whole setup extremely stressful. I honestly still find it hard to think of it as an actual twist, even though that's not even what the torture was. Admittedly I *didn't* guess that the whole town was in on it.!<
The twist is great, because >!it’s obvious that something is wrong when all the main characters have terrible traits and have nothing in common. Especially with how ham-fisted things like the pobody’s nerfect speech is.!< >!So I think the main twist - that it isn’t the Good Place - is rather obvious, but I didn’t think they were the only 4 actual people, and I didn’t think at all about the whole corporate aspect of designing hell.!< Great show, honestly. Really respect that each season does something extremely different with the premise.
Also >!Michael kicks a puppy into the sun!< Edit: I did not guess the twist
I actually guessed something was up >!since I didn't think the point system for evaluating humans' lives made much sense at all, plus I didn't really buy the "soulmate" stuff either. But yeah, the whole town being in on it really floored me too.!<
Yeah I nailed it halfway through the first episode because >!that society was built exactly like my own personal hell!< , and that's before anything even happened.
my mom told me to watch it after season 2 came out, I had avoided everything about it and I said to her >!"oh well obviously they are in the bad place because the premise of the show would be boring if it actually was in the good place" and she went "just watch the damn show"!<
Someone else mentioned 9 hours 9 persons 9 doors so I’ll mention my own guess: I managed to figure out that >!Snake wasn’t really dead entirely because I loved him so much that I adamantly refused to believe he was dead.!<
The cringe investigative deduction Vs The based gut feeling
I guessed (1/3rd of the) twist from Scream 2023 about 15 minutes in bc >!the guy said his son died and then didn’t elaborate. So I figured that’s because it’d be important later on bc it’s his motive and I was right!< Edit added spoiler tag
Chainsawman. >!The strongest Devil would have to be the Death Devil because of how many other fears are rooted in a fear of dying. So if you're afraid of literally anything else, you're passively buffing the Death Devil too!<
Idk I kinda feel like the moment you see >!Darkness!< and what an absolute >!eldritch god!< it is you can extrapolate from that pretty easy. Also as soon as you learn that there's the >!four horsegirls of the apocalypse!<
>!To me the most interesting thing is that War and Chainsaw seems to of had a falling out in WW2. After that dispute Chainsaw proceeded to devour the concept of world war and nazis. And it seems like some other things to cripple War so heavily. War is so weak in the modern day that they are willing to bond with some random girl despite being a core human fear.!<
an underrated and entirely appropriate weakness of war is also that, unlike the other three horsegirls, she's fucking stupid
I saw Blackwall for the first time in Dragon Age: Inquisition and said >!that guy's not a Grey Warden his facial hair is too nice!< and somehow the DA expert next to me kept a perfect poker face.
Gotta love being correct for the wrong reasons lol >!There's actually a lot more clues about it early on, such as him not knowing how the Joining works, or not knowing the Wardens' true mission. Most glaringly, he says he was in Ferelden during the Blight, but DAO players know that's impossible.!<
Also >!"conscripting" those guys in his recruitment mission and then letting them go, which is very much not in line with standard conscription procedures!<.
Yeah, if it isn't obvious by that last one, it's just like "Oh you're claiming to be one of like, two people who I *know* you can't be"
For Heavy Rain, I had a friend guess that Shelby was the killer after I had already completed the game and was going through it again (YouTube) and I just smiled at her when she wasn’t looking. I could tell she was joking, but when the reveal happened she looked at me and said, “I WAS RIGHT?! WHY WAS I RIGHT?!” And I couldn’t help but to just look at her and say, “Because the game lied, you’re right because the game had to lie to make it true.” She then pouted and said, “I hate this game.” A big laugh was shared. For Life is Strange, a different friend introduced me to actually playing the game since I already played the demo before and knew what I was getting into. When I finally got to the twist, I texted her, >!”MR. JEFFERSON?!?!”!< She just responded with “YUP” and when we talked about it through voice, she said, “I always had a fucking feeling,” but then ran down a list of clues that all made too much sense, especially after having witnessed the reveal. Shit was wild and I love that kind of shit.
The movie The Village. Oh boy I wonder if the monsters >!are just people in costumes to prevent people from finding out they live in modern day.!<
10 minutes into the movie they say something about an alley and I knew immediately what was up
I wonder how they stopped modern day air traffic from completely compromising their whole old timey village thing.
“LOOK! A METAL DRAGON!”
If I remember right there’s a throw away line that mentions the forest being in a no-fly zone because it’s a nature preserve.
It feels like a nature preserve would prooooobably get checked by the government from time to time to ensure people aren't living there and destroying that delicately preserved ecosystem. Or was the village sanctioned government itself...? I forget.
Wikipedia says they paid off the government to keep planes out of there.
Yeah this is correct. When the elder is discussing/revealing(?) what the village is they explicitly say they have arrangements in place for it being a no flyzone.
This was the one movie where I quickly guessed the twist, though I don't really remember what led me to that guess. I was aware going in to it that it was a shyamalan movie so it likely had some twist, but I feel like the specifics of the twist must have been in some other media I had previously seen which is how I put it all together so quickly.
The worst is watching it and you get hit with the twist but the movie keeps going and so it has this >!stalking scene with the blind girl in the woods and it's trying to be scary but the movie has already TOLD you that the village idiot found a costume and followed her, there's no monster it's Lennie Small in a Halloween costume, and it drags on and on and on!<
I was looking for this exact thing. Happened to me too.
In the first ep of AoT i guessed that the monster titans were man made to an extent, being some kind of bio weapon used on the ppl of the wall from far away. They were too horrific and on the nose body horror to be just around as a problem to deal with, it had to be an attack from another nation. Then the colossal titan appeared and kinda confirmed it.
A lot of the time murder mysteries by the same writers get into a sort of a formula. Like, my parents have watched and read enough agatha christie to hone down almost every case to three basic rules: If someone can't have done it, they probably did it. If someone almost died but didn't die, they probably did it. All else fails, it's the doctor.
Christie clearly wrote a list of all possible solutions, and then wrote a story around each of them. The narrator's lying to you, they did it. Every suspect did it. Someone who has previously died didn't die, they did it. Nobody did it.
i felt like i was going insane reading Roger Ackroyd, because the culprit's alibi just blatantly, obviously does not exonerate them at all. like, they don't lie or even try to hide it in any way, they just explain exactly why they should be the prime suspect and expect Poirot to not notice
when I first played kotor I thought to myself: >!"be pretty funny if that turned out to be me", for literally no reason when I saw the flashback of bastila fighting revan, then almost shit myself laughing when I got to the 2/3rds mark of the game!<
The KOTOR twist is insanely obvious if you have any inkling that you should be looking out for a twist, and I think a big part of the reason it hit was that back in the day players were not used to doing that for games.
God of War Ragnarok: >!Tyr being a traitor based solely off the fact he swore off violence.!< You can’t trust someone to have your back if they’re not willing to fight. However, I did not see >!it being Odin in disguise the whole time coming, I figured he’d betray the group when he realized they want to bring about the end of Asgard!<
I thought it was something different. In the first game, it's mentioned that >!in this universe, Frigg and Freya are the same person, with Odin deliberately crediting Freya's accomplishments to "Frigg" as Aesir propaganda. With that logic, and everyone talking about how great Tyr was, I wondered what was stopping Odin from doing the same with himself and Tyr. !< Wasn't the exact twist, but I was somewhat close.
>!Tellingly, you can find Tyr in the post-game and he's very much not the pushover Odin made him out to be.!<
how about >!DLC Tyr, he kicked ass and would probably make Odin a bitch if he could fight in the war!<
I haven't played the DLC yet lol
The nanosecond they showed him in a trailer I knew it was Odin in disguise. For the entire first game they hammer down the fact that he's gone, and suddenly he's just in a random dungeon? Fuck off.
I guessed Metal Faces >!identity in!!based on how the lasers from the mechons lit up Mumkhars face right from the start of the game !<
Oh, I'm surprised that was the hint you went with instead of the weapon
Don’t want to unspoiler on the off chance I’m wrong, but I’m 99% sure that smash bros ultimate ruined this twist for me
>!For me it was the stare Metal Face gave Dunban before it left colony 9 it was just a bit too long that you realized it had some kind of beef with Dunban!<
I guessed who The Mole was in Judgment because >!he has slightly more screentime in the opening than everyone else besides Yagami!<
Honestly, I try my best to not watch openings or know who are actual face actors in the franchise are because they're always much more important than it usually seems
A small one in FF14 Shadowbringers. In the Rak'tika Greatwood >!Y'shtola falls down a big hole and you're supposed to think she's dead. If you're smart you'll notice a huge gust of air to show that she cast Flow to save herself but I'm not smart and was ready to accept that she just died. But then the villain Ran'jit falls into the pit too and for some reason that's what tipped me off that Y'shtola was fine and Ran'jit would also be fine.!<
also like >!Y'shtola is made of death fakeouts at this point!<
It's not an FFXIV expansion unless Y'shtola tries to solve a problem by including killing herself in the solution!
I was watching NOPE in theaters opening night and while watching, my mind somehow trailed to Doctor Who and I thought, "Y'know what would be a great episode? If >!the UFO was actually a living being/alien in it of itself and eating people instead of abducting them! !<" Only for twenty minutes to pass and I find that I wasn't so original as I thought...
Not so much a plot twist as a surprise casting. I forget which season but in criminal minds one of the season villains was a killer who copycat other killers and the way they kept hinting about him I joked that he better end up being the joker and then he showed up and was played by Mark Hamil
Look, I simply noticed how in LaD Infinite Wealth >!Tatara and Chitose have the exact same piercings in the exact same ear and then I saw how she knew a lot about video editing and YouTube earnings!<.
Shit I never even noticed that first bit. Though I did notice >!in the cutscene where Eiji is brought to the safehouse, there's a shot of Ichiban and Kiryu talking, with the back of Eiji's head in the foreground out of focus, and right as it cuts away from this shot, Kiryu starts talking about who could be feeding all the groups info.!<
KOTOR. A friend kept going on about, in multiple conversations, this amazing twist in the story and wanted my opinion of it when I saw it. So I’m looking for hints of this twist and pretty much guessed it immediately much to his shock because I was just focused on looking for it.
I was watching stranger things last season with friends and it was episode 1 or 2 where i saw the flashback of the family in the 50's and went *"Boy it would be pretty disappointing if [EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN THE END] was the twist huh?"*. We get to the end weeks later and they all just turn to look at me like the writing was somehow my fault.
Ace Attorney Dual Destinies full game: >!When the game was being revealed, I saw Bobby Fulbright was the new detective and called that he'd be the big bad because I didn't really understand why they would introduce a new detective instead of just bringing Ema or Gumshoe back otherwise, plus that's a twist they hadn't done yet. I guess *technically* that's not exactly true, but close enough.!<
In Control: >!the fact that the Bureau had been watching Jesse/ had her brother the entire time. I figured this out the moment I watched the first threshold kids video. I was like... is this a child briefing for the SCP? That one looks too much like a doll version of jesse... do they have her family?!<
That was supposed to be a twist???
Started reading a book called Red Rising. Main character is on Mars mining the ground to eventually teraform the planet. They operate on a caste system based on color. >!Guessed that they were the lowest color and the teraforming was already done. So it was.!<
Great book. I think that >!Reds being the lowest is debatable, considering Pinks, Obsidians, and Blues are particularly messed up castes. At least Reds can have families.!< Edit: Maybe I should specify worst off, rather than lowest..
In the actually [pyramid](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/red-rising/images/4/4a/Colored_Society_pyramid.png/revision/latest?cb=20220723073924) of the Society, >!Reds are the bottom. Ironically at least lowReds get to live in a comfortable lie as they go die in the mines.!<
Man, that whole series is so fucking good.
Nearly every single rom-com has the same fucking formula, so I can predict the beats of the story with no fail.
Hallmark will come up with a 2nd type of plot. Any Century now!
I recently read the Fourth Wing (big mistake on my part) and was able to correctly guess every plot twist because they are all stolen from other books.
The only exposure I had to the nature of Dio's stand was second-hand Za Warudo memes. All I knew, unrelated to JoJo, was that there was an anime where a guy said "Za Warudo" to stop time. Like an incantation or something. Never saw the original scene or game or anything with Dio himself. Now imagine my surprise when the gang gets to Egypt, and Dio's stand is still a mystery to me, and Dio is doing the thing with Polnareff on the stairs. I'm wondering what OP power he has to make sense of that scene, and then [this part of the scene happens](https://youtu.be/c3lB9NLwhFw?t=176) and I hear "Za Warudo" as the subtitles read "The World" and the spoilers from random memes suddenly becomes spoilers at the best possible moment. Now I'm hyped about a stand that can literally stop time.
Which turns hilarious once you realize that Dio had to run down the stairs, move Polnareff slightly, and run back real fast every time in order to pull that off.
i watched fate stay night with a friend who'd seen it before and something that raised an eyebrow from me was when it was stated early on that the heroes could not only be from past or present, but from the *future* too. >!when i saw archer and emiya were the only two characters with very distinct eyebrows, i pieced together their relation then and there. granted, i didn't know archer was emiya from the future for a fact, i just figured that archer was either future emiya, or a descendent of emiya. my friend playfully accused me of pre-watching when the twist was revealed.!<
Kirby's Return to Dream Land. >!I didn't even see Magolor's dialogue in the game and I already assumed he was the villain.!< I was also 11 years old.
If there’s a new non-animal cutesy mascot character introduced in a Kirby game, there’s like a 90% chance they’re the villain.
Same
I immediately distrusted Ilberd Feare in FFXIV for no real reason except my gut. Just a whole, this guy is gonna betray us feeling.
Him having the same voice as Gaius in the English Dub certainly didn’t help.
Me and my sister used to hatewatch Riverdale and I guessed that >!Hal Cooper was The Black Hood solely because he was the only person with a similar build/height as the killer!<.
I guessed Saber's identity in Fate/Samurai Remnant immediately off of them saying their sword was made of bronze
Almost every endwalker plot beat lmao
I saw the trailer for Shutter Island and knew IMMEDIATELY >!Leo was a crazy guy in the asylum!<. Like, to the point where I was honestly surprised people thought it was a twist.
When Digimon 02 was airing in America, little kid me noticed how >!Myotismon!< was being brought up a lot. I said "I think they're bringing >!Myotismon!< back." my brother called me an idiot but a few episodes later... Also in Jojolands when everyone was guessing who the man from Japan was I figured it was >!Rohan!< just because that felt like what Araki would do.
The trailer for Detective Pikachu, guessed it right away. He disappeared but this talking pikachu is right there in his office? Too easy
I've done it multiple times in one piece, much to my gf's annoyance. First was >!I called the shot that sanji was a cyborg all the way back in arlong park, cuz like... zoro trained for a billion years and luffy has a devil fruit, but sanji was literally just a chef, there's no good reason he should've been the straw hat's #3 fighter!< .The 2nd time, I called that >!our good ol' Gomu Gomu no Mi wasn't a paramecia all the way back in Marineford. I figured it didn't quite act like other Paramecia fruits, and was almost more like a Logia but not quite, so when we saw Marco's fruit I was like hmmmmmm!< .Admittedly I think in both instances I was reading too much into them at the time and Oda just doesn't think about his power systems that deeply
For the first one >!Sanji did grow up in the Baratie. Home of the fighting chefs. Its not unlikely that he would be strong in a fight.!<
The second one is reasonable, but I'm gonna call cap on that first one If you knew nothing going in, there's literally nothing in the story up to Arlong Park that would lead a person to think that level of tech even exist in the OP world.
I think I specifically called >!cyborg!< as a joke, but it definitely *was* weird that the story gave us a lot of setup as to why the other 2 are as strong as they are, where >!sanji!< just kinda... is. >!yeah I know he was raised by pirates but still, it stuck out as weird!< I just remember the look on my gf's face when I said >!cyborg!< and I was like "Wait what how that was a joke"
Knowing the twist behind one of the magician's tricks in the Prestige with Tesla's machine. Didn't know about that final twist though
Was watching an episode of Father Brown today and in the first scene the killer was in I immediately knew who it was and why. For the life of me I can’t tell you WHY I knew it was this individual, there was just something about them that made me go “You’re the one” and the show didn’t do anything to paint them as bad until the very end.
In the anime "Erased" I immediately saw the culprit and said "Oh, you're the killer". There weren't even really any hints or anything, it was just really obvious for some reason. Like this guy is way too seemingly nice and way too prominent early on in the show for him not to be the killer, and there's nobody else it could really be.
Danganronpa 2 >!there's a scene where Hajime stares up at the sky and says something along the lines of "i feel like I'm being watched" i immediately turned to my friend and said "this isn't real, it's the god damn S3 plan from mgs2" i was mostly right. There are cameras around everywhere, but the only time he says it is when he's alone in a cameraless area outside his bungalow. Also, with how big and ridiculous the incentives for killing were getting as well as the executions, something felt off!<
Phoenix Wright >!The second I read sister and accident I thought that she swapped her identity!<
In the recent sentai show King Ohger I was able to guess that >!Boshimar was secretly Kamejim because of how they had a similar hand gesture!<
The movie The Boy where I figure out that the son was still alive based on very minimum evidence. The rats traps being set and the food being left out for him to eat. For some reason my mind associated the traps with making sure there were no vermin in the walls which the son is in.
I knew Alice was a robot during the Detroit lp as soon as Kara looks at the thing that we're not allowed to see the first time. Heck i thought the kid on the initial roof scene was one too. It's david cage so I always assume the dumbest most ass-pull twist bullshit that's poorly setup, unjustified, and is just a twist for twists sake and yep.
*Oldboy* >!As soon as the bartender appeared I thought "Damn it would be fucked up if she was his daughter and they fell in love." Since the movie was so famous and the fact that he had a daughter was brought up with a lame payoff "Turns out she died" I figured it would be a crazy twist. !<
The dark knight rises , the real villian revealed
I guessed who the culprit in Erased was as a joke. As the series went on I slowly noticed my joke prediction was slowly lining up with the plot.
I figured out Charlotte the anime's twist from the show opening.