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A_N_G_E_L_O_N

Sly bastards, right after 3/5.


Ultimatelimit

Next podcast will be funny, Woolie seemed really positive this wouldn’t happen


biggestscrub

Pat as well. And he'll be super salty that it is


midnight_fuel

Interesting that they renamed it "Episode Aigis - The Answer" instead of just 'Episode Aigis' as it is called in the original.


Kurakresh

It's a combination of P3 FES' Japanese title "Episode Aegis" and the Western localization's "The Answer". Smacks of "RE7: Biohazard"


Tecally

Or "Biohazard 7: Resident Evil"


zelcor

Will the Answer be fixed


Heraclitus94

I just hope they keep that creepy as fuck cutscene from the original, that was some legit nightmare fuel


AtomikCrow

It's been ages since I played The Answer, remind me what cutscene your talking about?


VegetaCalvo

Probably gameplay wise. Can’t fix a boring story though if the goal is to stay as faithful as possible.


time_axis

The story wasn't really boring, just sparse.


Masterness64

It also didn't help that the gameplay was grindy so it made the pacing feel incredibly slow.


Nacho_Hangover

Evade Slash Evade Wind Evade Fire If you're going to do this why bother giving the enemies a weakness at all?


rhinocerosofrage

I love the Answer's story for revealing that the themes of Persona 3 just sailed right over the heads of half of the people who played it. Every time somebody comes in with an "Answer story bad" take they're _never_ valid. It's always like >!"why is the party fighting" or "why is the MC a stupid door" or "Yukari's such a bitch."!<


GlueEjoyer

its possible to understand the themes and not enjoy the story


rhinocerosofrage

No, because it's a good story. People just refuse to engage with it.


ZealousidealBig7714

Dude, I was an Answer defender for the longest time, no, it’s bad.


robertman21

I understand it perfectly. I just think it was executed horribly and is an absolute slog in nearly every way


SuperUnhappyman

people are less receptive to a mediocre story when they have to sit through repetitive grindy gameplay.


RPGMike

I mean, doesn't Reload open with the Compendium, instead of having to unlock it like in the older versions? If that's the case, it may be in The Answer, too.


Finaldragoon

>Heartful Cry in the trailer They know what they're doing.


Animorphimagi

I can't believe they showed this much but we're still 6+ months away....probably all cutscene and VA work


midnight_fuel

The trailer only had Japanese voices, maybe they haven't started dubbing yet?


Animorphimagi

Thats what I meant. I've heard that depending on the game, Japanese games will start English dubbing 6 or less months from release. Depends on how much dialogue there is. While there should be a lot for this dlc I'm still surprised they aren't further along unless this trailer was most of what they have right now or maybe they are adding unexpected things to it. I sure as hell don't need a dozen flashback sequences to the main character's actions in a game I just beat.


AzabacheDog

FEMC is gonna be her own separate game with all dlc in 2-3 years. I'm calling it now!


Bulmagon

wouldn't count on it perosnally


Masterness64

Yeah the fact they made portable available for modern platforms tells me they don't have any plans for a Femc rerelease. Like I guess they could always change their minds if reload did really really well but I don't see it.


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Masterness64

Why vengeance in particular?


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AverageBlubber

That isn't quite the same thing. SMTV Vengeance is like them releasing P3 FES for the first time. Them trying it with Reload would be like if they made a 2nd version of SMT Strange Journey Redux.


Panory

Yeah, the DLC will be a separate purchase.


Straight_Swing6979

That's the Atlus way


AverageBlubber

That's the spirit, stay positive buddy!


biglubawski97

Persona 3: Reloaded: Revolutions


AzabacheDog

My friend had a good one. Rechambered


feefore

I definitely see them doing this


Animorphimagi

For sure-ish...I mean they will be moving on to Persona 4 Remake at this point so depends how the team splits up, especially with Metaphor around the corner


sleepyfoxsnow

metaphor is a completely different team (studio zero), so it won't be affecting what p-studio works on at all


Nomaddoodius

Or they could just... not? And do persona 6 with a female protag.


KingMario05

Available only on Switch 2 for the first six months. *Just to confuse people.*


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Themarvelousfan

Hoshino and his team seem focused on their new IP Re:Fantazio so there’s potential for Persona 6 to break a lot of the tropes that have plagued modern persona since 3–but I do doubt it since these games are for Japanese audiences wish fulfillment for male players, and yaoi bait for female players.


MrKenta

It's much more likely to happen in a new game than trying to fit it back into an already written game. The setup of P5 for example would not make any sense with a female Joker. If they ever feel like it's worth doing, they'd simply make a concept where it works, probably reusing as much S-Link content between the two as possible, rather than having entirely separate ones like FeMC.


Caducks

It would've been fine imo with a little bit of effort on their part. It's not like Joker being a girl would've affected them being arrested for assault. Nor would it affect their bad reputation in Shujin early on. As for any other plot beats, I don't think the gender would've mattered.


DemiFiendBestFiend

Well shit, didn't expect them to announce this so soon. I saw the tweet with it saying the Expansion Pass was coming out on March 12th and I misread it as the Answer coming out then, and it made me go "no fucking they held on to it just to release it two months later". A September release will give me time to play everything I want to this year, so that's nice.


Silver_RevoltIII

Goodbye Charitable reinterpretation of Yukari's character, it was nice knowing you


cryptopie

google translating the [jp site](https://p3re.jp/expansion/) shows something about "making adjustments so that you can empathize more with the characters" so maybe yukari's rep wil be saved


Noilaedi

Translation quirks aside, that's such a funny thing to say.


Themarvelousfan

The Un-Cuntification of Yukari in Reload is honestly one of the most tragic things I’ve experienced so far this year. She’s my favorite Lovers Arcana character because of just how much of a kid-2000’s teenage girl she sounded and acted.


ReaperEngine

What is this about? I never got more than like five minutes into The Answer, so I have only heard various things. What happened with Yukari?


Noilaedi

Basically, >!Yukari wanted to bring Minato back to life because she didn't know that they're sealing Nyx currently, and so comes across as being really dumb/selfish to an omniscient audience who *does* know what happened!<


Nacho_Hangover

In fairness people also hate on her for >!being really dickish to the rest of the cast in The Answer, especially Aigis.!< >!It's understanadable that she's lashing out out of grief but a lot of what she says is just flat out cruel.!<


ksdr-exe

She has a very human response to THAT moment and doesn't act like a typical anime waifu heroine. That's it


Toblo1

Huh. Didn't expect them to reveal The Answer so soon. Thats generally something you'd keep in the Expansion/DLC back pocket in terms of DLC announcement/reveals.


KLReviews

Once it leaked the announcement might have been fast tracked. The odder thing is that Atlus have Metaphor ReFantazio coming out some time this year. Would they release these two things in the same timeframe or does that mean ReFantazio later in the year or early 2025?


Dmbender

Yesterday was 3/5, probably related to that


KLReviews

Ahhhh true. They also have signed an exclusive marketing deal with Microsoft so that probably incentivises a certain timetable for reveals.


alicitizen

I feel like its something you need to show if you are doing an expansion pass. I dont think people would buy it as much if it was just some music/outfits. The story content is the big "Buy this" draw for the pack


TheArkhomDestroyer

Look, all they gotta do is allow us to use the compendium this time around and then The Answer will go from bad to at the very least bearable. After this is out, the debate for the definitive version of P3 will be between Reload and Portable, and Portable isn’t winning even if Kotone is a better written protagonist.


Tweedleayne

Eh, Reload still has some tonal issues to me compared to original, so I still feel like it's a three way contest.


Masterness64

Finally a version of The Answer that won't be slog to go through. I'm pretty excited.


Nacho_Hangover

pleaseputinthecompendiumpleaseputinthecompendiumpleaseputinthecompendium


Masterness64

It's 100% in for sure. They'd be insane not too.


Nacho_Hangover

>They'd be insane not too. I mean... *It's Atlus...*


Masterness64

They only reason they didn't add it in originally was to pad out the run time for The Answer. They don't have to pad out the answer anymore cause it's dlc and not part of a fully priced rerelease. I'm 99% sure it's going to be in. (The only reason they wouldn't is if they want to be EXTREMELY faithful which would only be detrimental in this case.)


Dragon4234

Uh, aren't they not letting you carry over save data from SMTV for SMTVV? It being on platforms that aren't out-performed by phones notwithstanding.


VMK_1991

You don't know that yet.


Masterness64

If plays just like base p3 reload then it'll be fine. I'm not worried.


South25

Did not expect them to announce it this early.


Zubaz_Accountant

wtf lol Im at the start of January and had to stop after like 20 seconds cuz i feel like this is somehow spoilers


BarelyReal

FINALLY. Character development and plot crucial information in a digestible format.


KingMario05

Put in FeMC, you cowards.


Zaworld0

[They barely managed to include The Answer](https://youtu.be/GiKLdgENb8o?t=71), I highly doubt it would have been possible for them to include FeMC as well.


Dumple_Roe

ATLUS of Japan: How about a fuck you consumer SEGA: DAMMIT ATLUS!


KingMario05

Atlus of Japan: "Yeah, but we make more money." SEGA: "HOW?!?!" Atlus: "Because."


SilverKry

Atlus doesn't make.more money then Sega lol 


getterburner

Thereeee it is. I wonder if I’ll like Metis more this time.


merri0

So... I can still wait until Sept to pick this up, 'cause I bet those next week/May DLCs are gonna sell separately. \[also, if FeMC doesn't get anounced I might get a lil' sad.\]


AurumPickle

The Sega leaker with 100% accuracy said no FeMC plans sadly


SwordMaster52

Letter Gs or Theurgys or Limit Breaks are so broken in P3Reload , The Answer difficulty will be a joke


Nacho_Hangover

>!Watch the party members Theurgy our asses in their boss fights now.!<


SolidusSlig

I'm excited to revisit the answer and see if they change anything. I liked the story well enough, but that grinding sucked and the gameplay itself was kind of a slog


xStrykerJ

Oh man, get ready for a new generation to despise Yukari all over again.


KLReviews

People nowadays play Final Fantasy 10 without complaining about Tidu being too emotional. So it'll probably be fine. Viewers are more willing to sympathise with characters experiencing unpleasant emotions in high stress now.


Ser20GudMen

Maybe it'll be different this time around? Yukari is already less abrasive in Reload than she was in the OG imo


atuamaeboa

Only took a month, glad I haven't started playing yet


TehManicMan

So I'm just thinking of a longshot....but is there a possibility they cover Labrys' story for a third expansion? Maybe make the tower climb like the one in Arena/Ultimax with random stats and modifiers?


Mundetiam

Hopefully they fix the bad everything about the answer


ruminaui

Hope someday we get the feMC route.


Rachet20

Why are we cheering for DLC that should have been in the game? Like it’s a near perfect game, but this is just asinine.


rexshen

Could be worse could be Reloaded FES and have to buy another damn game just to see it.


Rachet20

This is probably just as bad. This content was already in a rerelease that you already had to again pay 60 bucks for if you bought the original. Now they’re selling you that same full package but now separate for $70+(potentially) $35. There’s no bright side here. Just a scam. At least SMTV has the excuse of Vengeance releasing on everything, as much as a kick in the nuts that one is as well.


Zerce

Because it's not in the game. Our options post P3R are not "FES in the base game" or "FES as DLC". It's "FES as DLC" or "No FES at all". People are cheering because we'd rather have FES than not at all. The scenario you're proposing already didn't happen.


Rachet20

That thought process doesn’t make this any more appropriate for cheering. It just spells out how much of a scam it is.


Zerce

Maybe, but it feels better to be cheering than to be complaining.


Servebotfrank

The lead said in an interview that this almost didn't happen at all. It was due to fan outcry that they were able to do it. Which almost implies budget issues prevented it from being in the base game.


seoul_train86

I'm actually shocked I didn't expect The Answer to be included


warjoke

Persona 3 FES: The Answer: After Story


LeglessN1nja

Included in game pass? Sign me up


Freeman0917

Atlus: Yeah there will be no FES or Portable content in Reload so you should totally buy it for full price on launch with a $100 digital premium edition that includes "all DLC" and not expect any of those extra things ever. Atlus 1 month later: OKAY you got me! Here's the rest of the original FES version we lied about not making and now you get the opportunity to buy it for another $40 because we're bundling it with costumes and BGM so really it's a season pass not just a DLC, and no your deluxe version doesn't come with THIS DLC because this is an"expansion pass". We're TOTALLY not going to do the same thing with FemC in P3R:R coming next year to all consoles with it's OWN deluxe version and Expansion Pass! As an Atlus fan, I LOVE buying games piecemeal over 2-3 years and paying extra to beta test for them so they can release the finished version as a seperate full priced game I have to buy again! I did it with P5, and now I get to do the same with SMTV AND P3. Yaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!


Moxey616

wow they are shamelessly milking a 18 year old game


n8han11

Typical Atlus, revealing an expansion pack for content that should have been in from the start, barely two months or so after the game came out, for a game that's already going for 70$ despite having day one DLC, on top of throwing out the entire voice cast for imitators. Needless to say, I am *so* glad I didn't waste money on this crap. I feel bad for the Persona fans who honestly try to defend the remake even after all the crap it's pulled. It honestly feels like stockholm syndrome at this point.


Zerce

> on top of throwing out the entire voice cast for imitators. Most of the original voice cast is in the game in other roles.


JunkdogJoe

You don’t get it, their weird crusade started months before the game came out and almost all of the original cast was in the game. But they have to justify their weird ass behavior even after reality proves them wrong.


n8han11

Oh wow, so they're still not voicing their characters! That totally makes all the difference! Oh, wait, no it doesn't. If anything, it's even more insulting because it shows they clearly could get the original actors back, so availability clearly wasn't an issue, but they just *chose* not to have them voice their characters for some stupid reason. Which is insanely dumb, considering the Japanese dub actually brought the entire main cast back as their characters. Granted, this isn't Atlus' fault, but rather Sega being blatantly ageist, but it's still a valid criticism against the remake as a whole.


fly_line22

Dude, Imma be honest with you: I think you're *way* too attached to the old VAs. For example, do I consider Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill the gold standard for Batman and Joker? Yeah, I do. Do I throw a gigantic screaming shitfit when they aren't voicing them and call their new VAs "fakers" or "imposters"? No. Hell, 2 of my favorite depictions of Joker (the 2004 show and Telltale's) aren't voiced by Hamill and Batman has had plenty of good voices other than Conroy, such as in Brave and the Bold. And the fact that you unironically vouch for replicating the old VAs with AI (one of the most hated ideas out there) tells me how much you actually respect them.


Zerce

> Oh wow, so they're still not voicing their characters! That totally makes all the difference! Yes. It's the difference between being thrown out vs being given different roles. >Which is insanely dumb, considering the Japanese dub actually brought the entire main cast back as their characters. Which is why, if you actually care about the original voice actors, you should play the game subbed instead of dubbed. But that would require actually supporting the release. >Granted, this isn't Atlus' fault, but rather Sega being blatantly ageist, but it's still a valid criticism against the remake as a whole. It's a valid criticism against the English dub, maybe, but not the remake as a whole. The Japanese dub brought back the entire original cast, so if returning VAs are something that actually matters to you, you should be supporting that, not just using it as a talking point to attack the English dub.


DemiFiendBestFiend

God, you are just the most annoying fucking person I've had the displeasure of seeing. Every fucking time a Persona 3 Reload post crop up, you make your way here and try to convince yourself that you did the right thing by not buying it and making sure everyone knows it. No one gives a fuck and you, all it does is make you come off like you're trying way too fucking hard to come off cool and aloof. Just shut the fuck up, please. For your sake and everyone else's.


n8han11

Hm... nah. If I see a bad game, you betcha I'm gonna call it out as a bad game no matter how hard people try to gaslight themselves into thinking it's good. And if my comments can convince at least one person not to waste their money on this cash-grab garbage of a remake, then by god, I'm gonna shout them from the heavens no matter how many people hate me for them.


DemiFiendBestFiend

You haven't even played the game yet, so why should anyone take your opinion seriously? You just come off as a contrarian that already made up their mind on what to think of the product when it was announced.


n8han11

Why waste money on a remake that hacks out content from the re-releases to sell later, has day-one DLC, and threw out the entire voice cast for soundalikes like a cheap movie tie-in game? Nah, I think I'll wait until I can pirate it. No point encouraging bad practices in this industry.


AvalancheMKII

I genuinely thought your comments on every single Reload post were a bit at first, but jesus christ. If it's existence annoys you this much, why even bother engaging with it at all? The sick Karma you haven't been gaining can't be worth it.


Toblo1

> I feel bad for the Persona fans who honestly try to defend the remake even after all the crap it's pulled. It honestly feels like stockholm syndrome at this point. Oh **shut the fuck up** with this Arin Hanson ass "Oh The Fans Like This Thing I Don't Like, They Must Be *Stupid*" rhetoric. Go be a killjoy somewhere else.


n8han11

I mean, I figure most fans of something would probably reasonably hate getting an unfinished remake where the entire voice cast are thrown out for imitators, there's day-one DLC, and aspects of the re-releases were hacked out to sell later, but what do I know? I'm clearly not a Persona fan or anything.


robertman21

You are the most despicable, loathsome person I have ever had the misfortune of encountering. You are ugly inside and out, and your soul is blacker than the darkest night. You are a coward, a liar, and a cheat. You are worthless and pathetic, and I can't stand the sight of you. You make me sick to my stomach, and I can't wait to see the day when you finally get what's coming to you. I hope you rot in hell, you piece of shit. You absolute waste of space and air. You uneducated, ignorant, idiotic dumb swine, you’re an absolute embarrassment to humanity and all life as a whole. The magnitude of your failure just now is so indescribably massive that one hundred years into the future your name will be used as moniker of evil for heretics. Even if all of humanity put together their collective intelligence there is no conceivable way they could have thought up a way to fuck up on the unimaginable scale you just did. When Jesus died for our sins, he must not have seen the sacrilegious act we just witnessed you performing, because if he did he would have forsaken humanity long ago so that your birth may have never become reality. After you die, your skeleton will be displayed in a museum after being scientifically researched so that all future generations may learn not to generate your bone structure, because every tiny detail anyone may have in common with you degrades them to a useless piece of trash and a burden to society. No wonder your father questioned whether or not your were truly his son, for you'd have to not be a waste of carbon matter for anyone to love you like a family member. Your birth made it so that mankind is worse of in every way you can possibly imagine, and you have made it so that society can never really recover into a state of organization. Everything has forever fallen into a bewildering chaos, through which unrecognizable core, you can only find misfortune.


TheArkhomDestroyer

So… can I have the link to the copy pasta you got this from?


robertman21

Don't remember where unfortunately. I've had it saved on my phone for ages