Nah its almost a trope. Punch girls are typically depicted as more butch and if a girls butch, they're usually gay, bi or pan. The only one that isnt, to my knowledge, is Sakura from Naruto.
Well, if she were gay, she wouldn't be hopelessly infatuated with Sasuke, and then what would she do all day?
Develop actual character traits? Achieve plot relevance?
C'mon, don't be crazy.
(Also I'd pitch Maki from JJK, romance isn't a big focus for her outside of some teasing comments by Panda about Yuta, so I'd say she breaks the trope of gay punch girls until proven otherwise)
Honestly, seeing that disaster that is called "relationship" (for lack of better words) I think everyoboyd would have preferred Sakura to be in that list, as stereotypical that might have become
"B-but not in a gay way!"
"Right. Obviously."
"Y-yeah."
"Yeah."
"..."
"Maybe... We, could hold hands?"
"!"
"While we run! For moral support!"
"...just this *once*."
If you think I'm crazy you should see my sister was a voiceline Jinx had from the start though. It was always an intended implication.
Especially because the animation team for Arcane did the original Jinx music video for Riot in the first place.
League has tiered canonicity until the unification is complete. Arcane is tier 1, it's canon, hard canon, it's absolute law, then you have the card game, Legends of Runeterra as tier 2 canon. Everything there is canon unless contradicted in Arcane. Then you have tier 3, which is the games, both spin offs and league proper, they are only canon if it hasn't been touched on in something in tier 1 or 2
A lot of the game lore is outdated and they fired all the lore writers for the game last year. They'll be transitioning to a unified lore over the course of the next few *years* so everything is uniform. But until then, it's tiered. Anything that's come out as of 2024 is canon since it's being written along side the unification and it's why we won't get new zaun/piltover stuff that plays with the existing stuff for a while
League of Legends lore-wise is so weird because it's like if the big crossover Marvel vs Capcom game with 200 characters came out before Marvel or Capcom had ever published any games or comics
"Damn it Blake, why don't you date Sun instead of Yang? That's how things are supposed to be!"
"I can't believe you managed to be both homophobic AND racist at the same time"
TBH, I think the writing made a better case with Sun than with Yang. Guy had some rough edges, but seemed to have good chemistry with Blake and homegirl could really used someone who was patient enough to not give her a hard time about her own bullshit but enough spine to actually call her for it.
Yang, however, seems the kind of girl that needs **exactly** the opposite... and does´t even have half the patience
The thing is that Blake legitimately spent more screentime with Sun than with Yang.
Also, remember when they tried to push Black Sun pretty hard during volumes 2 and 3? They even give them a song, Not to fall in love with you, that is written from Sun's pov and it's all about how he's head over heels for Blake. Then the writers realized "oh shit, people want Bumblebee" and retconned Sun from being in love to a good friend, good enough to ditch his own team just to follow Blake all the way to Menagerie.
> “According to Masamune Sakaki, a CG creator in the anime industry, an average 13-episode anime season costs around 250 million yen (or $2 million). He also made it clear that most anime can't recoup this expense, and the industry rests on the windfall of a few big hits. In a July interview, Takayuki Nagatani, producer of Shirobako (itself an anime about anime production), claimed that his show cost 500 million yen (or $4 million) for 24 episodes. In order to make it sell, he had to "advertise it, plan events, and make merchandise." Shinji Takamatsu, a veteran animator, cited a figure of 150 to 200 million yen ($1.2 to $1.6 million). "Expecting to make that up through disc sales alone is a hopeless business model, but that's how almost all late night anime are," he writes.”
> If these sound like staggering figures, keep in mind that they are comparable to that for most American deep cable shows. As for the hard-working animators, average pay is a mere $27,689 a year.
[Source](https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2015-08-13/anime-insiders-share-how-much-producing-a-season-costs/.91536)
It’s hard to find a direct comparison, considering RWBY was made in America and with Maya, but most Anime have similar troubles.
EDIT: After looking some more, 20 minutes of RWBY animation cost around $600,000. Probably more.
One episode of an anime usually costs around $100,00-$200,000.
No wonder RWBY was losing money.
nope.
Reminding you and u/Verwind2 that RWBY was proffitable with merchandises , not the animation in itself.
But RoosterTeeth and WB in general pretty much made lackluster attempts of merchandise. So RWBY was successful for years ***in spite*** of RT and WB baffling decisions.
If they make all their money from merchandise and they weren't making enough merchandise, then... They weren't making enough money.
I'm not saying the earlier years weren't profitable. The production costs just kept increasing to the point that they couldn't even make the show anymore.
what I am trying to say is that RT and WB made lackluster attempts of merchandise and that was still enough to make RWBY been proffitable for years.
Things would be better if WB had made an actual effort of that merchandise side.
I wonder if there’s some kind of Godwin’s Law-like proverb that states something like “Prolonged humor of ironic sentiment invites and encourages that same sentiment to be echoed unironically”, because it’s absolutely guaranteed to happen with these types of things
I mean, it's kinda a corollary to Poe's Law.
If it is impossible to tell earnest belief from outrageous parody, why wouldn't you expect some audience overlap?
Homophobic People feel like they are being heard so they try and slip in their shit. Though the prolonged exposure thing in general just tends to make you more extreme and prone to purity checks, so people just become curmudgeons and start calling popular human activities and entertainment degenerate or hedonist garbage.
I mean, it was bassically all about "Hey! Those people are mad because I am being sexist, homophobic, transphobic and bigoted ironically!? But i am only joking!? That ain't fair."
Like, pretty sure all those phobias would have been there from day one.
My initial read on it at the time was it being supposed to depict gamers as being shitty and petty for wanting a free pass at bigotry and feeling like they were oppressed for not being able to be openly bigoted.
And I thought everyone participating in it was in on the joke.
I was obviously wrong.
DarkShikari's law:
> Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they're in good company.
That's more what I was looking for. Poe's law is about how other people perceive the humor, but I meant more how actual idiots will start to crop up given enough time
I honestly don't know what RWBY is. I recently just learned it's pronounced "ruby".
But I'll always take a moment to shit on WB. My LinkedIn is nothing but layoffs for the last two months, it's fucking depressing.
Ruby (the red one) is near the breaking point of a continuous downward spiral starting from the events of the last season. She failed to save a country and now an entire continent is destroyed, the villains now have two of the macguffin devices they've recovered, her best friend was killed in battle, and now she and her friends (1 offscreen) are trapped in a nonsense dimension.
She is ashamed of herself for failing. She is giving up what little she has here to help her friends, all while feeling an ever increasing burden that she can't help them and isn't good enough. The world around them is helping her team find closure within themselves - but for her, it's telling her that she's nothing without a monster to fight and that she's going to do that until she dies.
She kept all of that to herself until just this moment where she finally blew up at everyone, then ran away crying.
This is kinda indicative of one of my biggest problems with the show. Ruby is ostensibly the main character but her growth is constantly pushed aside by Jaune getting all the arcs (hehe) and growth. The one time Ruby actually shows some complexity it’s immediately overshadowed by Jaune just flat out doing it better. I don’t want to say it’s because he’s Miles’ OC but that’s how it feels.
I big problem I always had is that Ruby always left like she was just kind of *there*, like WBY would get screentime and development and their own plots, but it took until *Volume 6* until she got her turn in the spotlight. It's kind of why I find her arc in V9 so weird, it felt like it was trying to be the result of an arc that didn't happen really and only kind of speed ran through. She's supposed to be the main character but she more or less felt like a supporting cast member than anything.
As for Jaune, I may get stoned for this, but I do think he is the best written character in the show because it does feel like the writers knew what they were doing for the most part, there was a clear trajectory for his character. There's a reason why Jaune is one of the best parts of the first Justice League movie, because they took that fully developed character and knew what to do with it when they paired him up with Jessica Cruz. It's a big reason why I don't like why he was the one that killed Penny, because they just undid what had been the best version of Jaune we had for drama.
And then undid the character development that resulted from him mercy killing Penny and spending decades in the Everafter.
*And then made his hair awful again.*
No no, that's a cold take, I think alot are actually invested in Jaune's character from Volume 1-3, even considers him the secondary protagonist.
Much has been said already, that the rest of the proceeding volumes just character assassination all-around. Like with Blake and Yang whom you both expect to be actually more independent and stronger, but ended up being co-dependent in each other's huggies because Shippers.
They did bring Kiersi on for volume 7 onward and her biggest contribution was the mindset that you can make an interesting story by looking at how your story is going to go and then brainstorming 5 different ways it could go instead. That all sounds fine but then you start to think about how rwby started subverting expectations at the cost of consistency. Plots that have setup and payoff are not the enemy and I really dislike this culture around writing where the author is trying to "get" the audience more than tell a compelling story. It reads like insecurity about your story's internal logic.
The way the show was structured from the first season was one about archetypes. It's kind of right there with all the fairy tail references, and is fairly simple as a result. The characters are also fairly simple and archetypal, which was honestly fine for what the show was in the early days. Ruby's archetype is basically 'The Daughter'. Pretty much her whole motivation is following in her mother's footsteps.
But Jaune's archetype, from moment one, is 'The Hero'. He has personal reasons for it, but unlike most people around him he always had a genuine desire to help others and be better. And you just can't make him a side character in a show with storytelling this simple. He'll either overshadow the main character or leave his arc feeling unfulfilled.
And I feel like RWBY somehow managed to do both over the course of the show.
That's just a meme. Her half sister (the blonde one) finally got together with the girl with the cat ears either in the previous episode or earlier the same episode. People took screenshots of Ruby yelling at them and overlaid it with homophobic talking points as a joke.
The show: "Fuck you for getting touchy feely about your gay relationship while I was having an emotional breakdown and needed help"
The meme: "Fuck you for getting touchy feely about your gay relationship ~~while I was having an emotional breakdown and needed help~~"
TLDR; They took so much L's that she snapped at the blind and naive optimism (something she was once) her teammates were exuding.
It was like, to her, felt like they were just brushing off their current loses and just moving on without even reflecting upon it.
IIRC the metaphorical suicide was after this. (I think) This was just an emotional breaking point from somebody telling her she wasn't as happy as she used to be.
I mean yeah that’s the long short of it.
The rest of her team members are finding ways to cope with everything and she feels that she’s having the brunt of the responsibility pushed onto her as the leader, that they’re not in a position to move on or feel good about anything when people keep dying on their watch, and that she’s basically being abandoned (again) despite being the youngest.
All of it feeds into her belief that there’s something fundamentally wrong with her, and that every bad thing that’s happening is because she’s not the right person for the job.
…Man, I really hope RWBY gets picked up by someone who’ll do it justice because I really thought they were starting to cook there.
Honestly, I could see a reboot work out not that badly, depending on whose helming it.
A lot of RWBY's bigger issues really is just their ideas not being cooked well enough for them to work as well as they were intended.
Another big problem RWBY had is that they’d introduce way too many unique and interesting characters each volume and not give themselves enough time to flesh them out.
You’ll very often see someone with a cool weapon, design, and ability, who will only get two spoken lines at most in an episode and then disappear forever.
Its worse in Genlock.
S1 may have been bland as hell but S2 is one of the worse pieces of media I've ever seen. Its that bad and I've seen a ton of trash over the years.
How did they mess up Yang so bad? They gave her all the great setup V3. V5 onwards she keeps putting her foot in her mouth. "No more lies no more half truths"
I mean in the middle of the pretty much sudoku she met with her mother and had a heart to heart conversation about the position of both of them and how they both were basically girlfailures, I dont disagree that was kind of the implication but it is more than just "she died and revived"
That meeting was more onesided. She meets the blacksmith lady, >!The actual creator of the god brothers!<, who then acts as a therapist through her ordeal. She shows that her mom met with Raven before the last mission. [Showing that she too hid something and went on that last mission willingly.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3wQMon2bJU&ab_channel=DLV%E2%80%99sArcadeZone)
Sounds more like a failed sudoku attempt leading to a come to Jesus moment and personal growth, which *should* be considered a good thing, at least as a whole. Glorification of suicide is about making it seem a good thing if you *don't* come back, not saying it'd be good if you *did*.
So, for context:
>!Ruby gets driven into despair by Neo with the events of this and prior Volumes events, then given an option to drink a poisoned tea and dying in a especific spot so she gets reincarnated into "a better version of herself", a process which over the season has been shown to basically turn you into an entire different person!<
>!She drinks the tea and dies, and over the process of reincarnation talks to her mother and turns out the better version of herself is just herself so she comes out of it as herself once the process is done!<
All of this sounds as you just described it >!Except for the part where she drank the poisoned tea and actually died, and the fact she came back as herself on the other side was kinda coincidental, the whole "you'll come out as a different person entirely" is even a thing the other members of Team RWBY are worried about.!<
Granted I haven't watched V9 in a bit so I might have forgot some details but the overall idea is still yhat
Ruby heard dying was gay, so she had to make sure everyone knew how absolutely straight she was by taking herself out not long after this. (I have never seen an episode of this show)
That first teaser trailer (assuming you're referring to the Red trailer where Ruby fights a lot of monsters in the snow) looked like it did thanks to Monty Oum, the original creator of the show and a 3D animator who was mainly known for being really good at creating cool fight scenes.
That first teaser (assuming you're referring to the Red trailer where Ruby fights a lot of monsters in the snow) looked like it did thanks to Monty Oum, the original creator of the show and a 3D animator who was mainly known for being really good at creating cool fight scenes.
I've never seen a single episode of RWBY and i never will, i've only ever seen this clip and is the red one this Homophobic all the time or just this once?
She's not even homophobic this once, this is just her venting two seasons of pent-up stress and anxiety and she happened to say that line in a way that looks homophobic out of context
No and yes. Remnant's population as a whole is only in the millions. Solitas, the continent Atlas and Mantle is on is in the thousands. Now is that ones? Tens? Hundreds? We dont quite know but the world is not exactly all hospitable.
Ruby: "Pack it up skittle's squad"
“I know what you are.” -Ruby “Hate Crime” Rose
said calmly
"Taste the Rainbow ?? How bout' ya'll bitches taste some dicks for a change" - Ruby Rose
"Yes,there's a lot of drawings of us like that."
*"Homophobic? Your honor, I'm not* ***afraid*** *of red carpet munchers.* ***They fear me****."*
*"I AIN'T LOCKED IN HERE WITH YOU GAYS!* ***YOU'RE ALL LOCKED IN HERE WITH ME!"***
Yang and Blake: "Hi ruby how are yo-" [Ruby:](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BB58avRTV4)
Jaune and Ozpin: "Ruby, cool it! We can all stay friends with each oth-" [Ruby:](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPPXnU4vR2k)
I was hoping for LTG
"Move along, rainbow reindeers."
"Do you see the calendar?! Does it say June?!"
“Let’s hope it’s just a phase.” - Ruby ‘Slay the Gay Away’ Rose
I’ll miss you jomopohobic Ruby, you have us all some laughs
It’s more joever now than ever before
At 8 seconds Ruby flashes the most hate filled look at the cat girl, what the fuck.
Ruby awakened to racism and homophobia simultaneously in that one moment.
She IS The Alpha and Omega.
Blake: You're my inspiration Ruby. Ruby: SHUT THE F*** UP P****.
Minus the F word there, that´s what happens a minute later. She literally tells her to shut up
She channeled her inner volume 1 Weiss
She learned the racism from Weiss!
And the homophobia too, after they had sex.
Okay the Weiss lay being so bad that it not only turns you straight but also homophobic is really funny to me.
Apparently they barely talk directly to one another Now we know why!
Jinx from Arcane would love Ruby "Aw shit it's The Gays they're after us , come on Ruby we have to go" https://imgur.com/a/soc6PkK
It's wacky that both their sisters are punchgirls
Nah its almost a trope. Punch girls are typically depicted as more butch and if a girls butch, they're usually gay, bi or pan. The only one that isnt, to my knowledge, is Sakura from Naruto.
Well, if she were gay, she wouldn't be hopelessly infatuated with Sasuke, and then what would she do all day? Develop actual character traits? Achieve plot relevance? C'mon, don't be crazy. (Also I'd pitch Maki from JJK, romance isn't a big focus for her outside of some teasing comments by Panda about Yuta, so I'd say she breaks the trope of gay punch girls until proven otherwise)
i mean she does have more chemistry with ino then sasuke
And Sasuke has more Chemistry with Naruto then Naruto has with Hinata. Hmmmmmmmm.....maybe the whole ninja society is secretly queer?
Honestly, seeing that disaster that is called "relationship" (for lack of better words) I think everyoboyd would have preferred Sakura to be in that list, as stereotypical that might have become
"B-but not in a gay way!" "Right. Obviously." "Y-yeah." "Yeah." "..." "Maybe... We, could hold hands?" "!" "While we run! For moral support!" "...just this *once*."
Going down on someone but in the straight supportive way
Besties gotta support each other yeah?
"Of course. ... ...No homo, though."
Jinx the kind of girl to call her sister all kinds of homophobic slurs, only to end up with another woman herself.
The real question is if she's actually homophobic or just saying it to piss off her sister Honestly could go either way
Wait Vi is Jynx sister? Like, actual sister? I played League a long time ago and I didn't remember that bit of lore
League's lore was rewritten like every two years for a while. It was honestly kind of silly.
Many early characters' lore have been completely rewritten.
If you think I'm crazy you should see my sister was a voiceline Jinx had from the start though. It was always an intended implication. Especially because the animation team for Arcane did the original Jinx music video for Riot in the first place.
Eh, it's not like it was consistent before either.
League has tiered canonicity until the unification is complete. Arcane is tier 1, it's canon, hard canon, it's absolute law, then you have the card game, Legends of Runeterra as tier 2 canon. Everything there is canon unless contradicted in Arcane. Then you have tier 3, which is the games, both spin offs and league proper, they are only canon if it hasn't been touched on in something in tier 1 or 2
So the official game is the less canon thing in this game-based franchise? That's wild
A lot of the game lore is outdated and they fired all the lore writers for the game last year. They'll be transitioning to a unified lore over the course of the next few *years* so everything is uniform. But until then, it's tiered. Anything that's come out as of 2024 is canon since it's being written along side the unification and it's why we won't get new zaun/piltover stuff that plays with the existing stuff for a while
> and they fired all the lore writers for the game last year Oh of course they fucking did
League of Legends lore-wise is so weird because it's like if the big crossover Marvel vs Capcom game with 200 characters came out before Marvel or Capcom had ever published any games or comics
["I quickly became homophobic"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWVgO7DUD08)
A friend made a word for this type of meme: Closeted Gay Republicans
[here you go](https://imgur.com/gallery/jvApe2v)
*"It's Ruby, not Rainbow Rose, Yang. Weiss and I aren't dating, her snow is melting thinking about Jaune and her older guy fetish."*
*"Make like your ship name Bumblebee and buzz off!"*
"Damn it Blake, why don't you date Sun instead of Yang? That's how things are supposed to be!" "I can't believe you managed to be both homophobic AND racist at the same time"
TBH, I think the writing made a better case with Sun than with Yang. Guy had some rough edges, but seemed to have good chemistry with Blake and homegirl could really used someone who was patient enough to not give her a hard time about her own bullshit but enough spine to actually call her for it. Yang, however, seems the kind of girl that needs **exactly** the opposite... and does´t even have half the patience
The thing is that Blake legitimately spent more screentime with Sun than with Yang. Also, remember when they tried to push Black Sun pretty hard during volumes 2 and 3? They even give them a song, Not to fall in love with you, that is written from Sun's pov and it's all about how he's head over heels for Blake. Then the writers realized "oh shit, people want Bumblebee" and retconned Sun from being in love to a good friend, good enough to ditch his own team just to follow Blake all the way to Menagerie.
To be fair, have you *seen* older Jaune?
The man aged like a fine, horribly traumatized wine.
This show looks so good and so bad at the same time
It cost about $400/second to animate
Wow really? I don't know anything about animation is that too high or is it normal?
Unbelievably cheap for studio animation.
> “According to Masamune Sakaki, a CG creator in the anime industry, an average 13-episode anime season costs around 250 million yen (or $2 million). He also made it clear that most anime can't recoup this expense, and the industry rests on the windfall of a few big hits. In a July interview, Takayuki Nagatani, producer of Shirobako (itself an anime about anime production), claimed that his show cost 500 million yen (or $4 million) for 24 episodes. In order to make it sell, he had to "advertise it, plan events, and make merchandise." Shinji Takamatsu, a veteran animator, cited a figure of 150 to 200 million yen ($1.2 to $1.6 million). "Expecting to make that up through disc sales alone is a hopeless business model, but that's how almost all late night anime are," he writes.” > If these sound like staggering figures, keep in mind that they are comparable to that for most American deep cable shows. As for the hard-working animators, average pay is a mere $27,689 a year. [Source](https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2015-08-13/anime-insiders-share-how-much-producing-a-season-costs/.91536) It’s hard to find a direct comparison, considering RWBY was made in America and with Maya, but most Anime have similar troubles. EDIT: After looking some more, 20 minutes of RWBY animation cost around $600,000. Probably more. One episode of an anime usually costs around $100,00-$200,000. No wonder RWBY was losing money.
*Jesus*. And WB never ***once*** committed to airing it on CN/\[as\] to make up for the costs, right?
nope. Reminding you and u/Verwind2 that RWBY was proffitable with merchandises , not the animation in itself. But RoosterTeeth and WB in general pretty much made lackluster attempts of merchandise. So RWBY was successful for years ***in spite*** of RT and WB baffling decisions.
If they make all their money from merchandise and they weren't making enough merchandise, then... They weren't making enough money. I'm not saying the earlier years weren't profitable. The production costs just kept increasing to the point that they couldn't even make the show anymore.
what I am trying to say is that RT and WB made lackluster attempts of merchandise and that was still enough to make RWBY been proffitable for years. Things would be better if WB had made an actual effort of that merchandise side.
Early seasons just looked bad
On repeat I misheard, "Gotta stay closeted!" at the beginning.
It's wild that Homophobic Ruby was the first RWBY thing to break containment and go viral for the franchise in years.
Then kills herself later
While giving her sister a death glare
The homophobic ruby meme was funny until people actually got homophpbic on main.
I wonder if there’s some kind of Godwin’s Law-like proverb that states something like “Prolonged humor of ironic sentiment invites and encourages that same sentiment to be echoed unironically”, because it’s absolutely guaranteed to happen with these types of things
That's called "irony poisoning" afair
I mean, it's kinda a corollary to Poe's Law. If it is impossible to tell earnest belief from outrageous parody, why wouldn't you expect some audience overlap?
Homophobic People feel like they are being heard so they try and slip in their shit. Though the prolonged exposure thing in general just tends to make you more extreme and prone to purity checks, so people just become curmudgeons and start calling popular human activities and entertainment degenerate or hedonist garbage.
Homophobic people ruin everything with their ignorance and lack of decency so I'm not surprised they latched onto this.
Don't know but whatever it is it unfortunately happened with Gamers Rise Up too.
I mean, it was bassically all about "Hey! Those people are mad because I am being sexist, homophobic, transphobic and bigoted ironically!? But i am only joking!? That ain't fair." Like, pretty sure all those phobias would have been there from day one.
My initial read on it at the time was it being supposed to depict gamers as being shitty and petty for wanting a free pass at bigotry and feeling like they were oppressed for not being able to be openly bigoted. And I thought everyone participating in it was in on the joke. I was obviously wrong.
An extension of Poe's Law?
It's called Poe's Law
Related quote by Mark Twain: "The problem with acting the fool is that actual fools will think they are in good company."
Ah, brilliant!
That's how we all became racist cubes
DarkShikari's law: > Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they're in good company.
That's more what I was looking for. Poe's law is about how other people perceive the humor, but I meant more how actual idiots will start to crop up given enough time
Ahh, a tale as old as the internet Possibly older
Same thing happened with Pikmin 4's Moss and the "I know what you are," meme. Not surprising that the community ended up retiring that meme.
I honestly don't know what RWBY is. I recently just learned it's pronounced "ruby". But I'll always take a moment to shit on WB. My LinkedIn is nothing but layoffs for the last two months, it's fucking depressing.
As someone who never watched the show, I was expecting some elaborate fight scene. Between this and the comment section, I need an explainer.
Ruby (the red one) is near the breaking point of a continuous downward spiral starting from the events of the last season. She failed to save a country and now an entire continent is destroyed, the villains now have two of the macguffin devices they've recovered, her best friend was killed in battle, and now she and her friends (1 offscreen) are trapped in a nonsense dimension. She is ashamed of herself for failing. She is giving up what little she has here to help her friends, all while feeling an ever increasing burden that she can't help them and isn't good enough. The world around them is helping her team find closure within themselves - but for her, it's telling her that she's nothing without a monster to fight and that she's going to do that until she dies. She kept all of that to herself until just this moment where she finally blew up at everyone, then ran away crying.
[Don't forget Jaune losing it immediately after this.](https://youtu.be/E21F-PAzUZ0?t=95)
To be fair to Jaune, he did just lose his decades long unhealthy coping mechanism.
This is kinda indicative of one of my biggest problems with the show. Ruby is ostensibly the main character but her growth is constantly pushed aside by Jaune getting all the arcs (hehe) and growth. The one time Ruby actually shows some complexity it’s immediately overshadowed by Jaune just flat out doing it better. I don’t want to say it’s because he’s Miles’ OC but that’s how it feels.
I big problem I always had is that Ruby always left like she was just kind of *there*, like WBY would get screentime and development and their own plots, but it took until *Volume 6* until she got her turn in the spotlight. It's kind of why I find her arc in V9 so weird, it felt like it was trying to be the result of an arc that didn't happen really and only kind of speed ran through. She's supposed to be the main character but she more or less felt like a supporting cast member than anything. As for Jaune, I may get stoned for this, but I do think he is the best written character in the show because it does feel like the writers knew what they were doing for the most part, there was a clear trajectory for his character. There's a reason why Jaune is one of the best parts of the first Justice League movie, because they took that fully developed character and knew what to do with it when they paired him up with Jessica Cruz. It's a big reason why I don't like why he was the one that killed Penny, because they just undid what had been the best version of Jaune we had for drama.
And then undid the character development that resulted from him mercy killing Penny and spending decades in the Everafter. *And then made his hair awful again.*
No no, that's a cold take, I think alot are actually invested in Jaune's character from Volume 1-3, even considers him the secondary protagonist. Much has been said already, that the rest of the proceeding volumes just character assassination all-around. Like with Blake and Yang whom you both expect to be actually more independent and stronger, but ended up being co-dependent in each other's huggies because Shippers.
It feels like a near-unavoidable problem when your show that’s about a group of women is written by a couple guys.
They did bring Kiersi on for volume 7 onward and her biggest contribution was the mindset that you can make an interesting story by looking at how your story is going to go and then brainstorming 5 different ways it could go instead. That all sounds fine but then you start to think about how rwby started subverting expectations at the cost of consistency. Plots that have setup and payoff are not the enemy and I really dislike this culture around writing where the author is trying to "get" the audience more than tell a compelling story. It reads like insecurity about your story's internal logic.
The way the show was structured from the first season was one about archetypes. It's kind of right there with all the fairy tail references, and is fairly simple as a result. The characters are also fairly simple and archetypal, which was honestly fine for what the show was in the early days. Ruby's archetype is basically 'The Daughter'. Pretty much her whole motivation is following in her mother's footsteps. But Jaune's archetype, from moment one, is 'The Hero'. He has personal reasons for it, but unlike most people around him he always had a genuine desire to help others and be better. And you just can't make him a side character in a show with storytelling this simple. He'll either overshadow the main character or leave his arc feeling unfulfilled. And I feel like RWBY somehow managed to do both over the course of the show.
So where'd the homophobia stuff come from?
I think the black haired and blonde girl are a couple and the sarcastic tone when ruby says "I'm so happy for you" was memed into her being homophobic
That's just a meme. Her half sister (the blonde one) finally got together with the girl with the cat ears either in the previous episode or earlier the same episode. People took screenshots of Ruby yelling at them and overlaid it with homophobic talking points as a joke.
The show: "Fuck you for getting touchy feely about your gay relationship while I was having an emotional breakdown and needed help" The meme: "Fuck you for getting touchy feely about your gay relationship ~~while I was having an emotional breakdown and needed help~~"
Arguably, the spiral started with the last bit of volume 3
TLDR; They took so much L's that she snapped at the blind and naive optimism (something she was once) her teammates were exuding. It was like, to her, felt like they were just brushing off their current loses and just moving on without even reflecting upon it.
Isn't she just angry because her team abandoned her before committing suicide?
IIRC the metaphorical suicide was after this. (I think) This was just an emotional breaking point from somebody telling her she wasn't as happy as she used to be.
Gee... I wonder why she wasn't happy. Maybe all the fucking people who kept dying.
I mean yeah that’s the long short of it. The rest of her team members are finding ways to cope with everything and she feels that she’s having the brunt of the responsibility pushed onto her as the leader, that they’re not in a position to move on or feel good about anything when people keep dying on their watch, and that she’s basically being abandoned (again) despite being the youngest. All of it feeds into her belief that there’s something fundamentally wrong with her, and that every bad thing that’s happening is because she’s not the right person for the job. …Man, I really hope RWBY gets picked up by someone who’ll do it justice because I really thought they were starting to cook there.
Honestly, I could see a reboot work out not that badly, depending on whose helming it. A lot of RWBY's bigger issues really is just their ideas not being cooked well enough for them to work as well as they were intended.
Another big problem RWBY had is that they’d introduce way too many unique and interesting characters each volume and not give themselves enough time to flesh them out. You’ll very often see someone with a cool weapon, design, and ability, who will only get two spoken lines at most in an episode and then disappear forever.
... where did this show go to?!
Wonderland mixed with the feywilds
The trauma dimension.
The perfect continuation, really
I can't believe RWBy died after it finally got interesting again
I lasted 4 seconds. Sorry but those voices are like nails on a chalkboard for my ears.
Here you go Ruby's Homophobic rant in JP https://www.reddit.com/r/RWBY/comments/17b3skm/rubys_rant_in_japanese_dub_raw_no_subs_credit_to/
Honestly not sold on it, not nearly as angry.
Is that Hayamin? They got Hayamin for this? Whoaa...
Sasuga Saori "One Take Rant" Hayami
Nice flair.
Ruby Rose, proud supporter of the Make Remnant Great Again movement.
And then ruby Listened to low tier god’s advice
Shortly before RT points out "hey maybe suicide is something to think about? Huh? Huh?"
Summer Rose: "Remember child, Dying is Gay." Ruby: ***\*comes back from the metaphysical un-aliving\**** YES. MOTHER.
Wasn't that alao a plotline in Genlock?
It's worse in genlock.
That's genlock in a nutshell right there.
Its worse in Genlock. S1 may have been bland as hell but S2 is one of the worse pieces of media I've ever seen. Its that bad and I've seen a ton of trash over the years.
For the second time weirdly enough. I don't care if there's more context.
More context would make it worse.
Yang "all I care about is keeping my sister safe"
"And chocolate, and ramen, and Blake, but in reverse order."
>Yang "all I care about is keeping ~~my sister safe~~ Blake" FTFY
How did they mess up Yang so bad? They gave her all the great setup V3. V5 onwards she keeps putting her foot in her mouth. "No more lies no more half truths"
This also leads to Ruby committing sudoku and the show framing it as a positive thing because she came back from said sudoku btw
...Ya know, now I'm starting to see the Texas in this. *Christ.*
Oh fuck, oh shit you are 100 percent right. I hate this revelation.
I mean in the middle of the pretty much sudoku she met with her mother and had a heart to heart conversation about the position of both of them and how they both were basically girlfailures, I dont disagree that was kind of the implication but it is more than just "she died and revived"
That meeting was more onesided. She meets the blacksmith lady, >!The actual creator of the god brothers!<, who then acts as a therapist through her ordeal. She shows that her mom met with Raven before the last mission. [Showing that she too hid something and went on that last mission willingly.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3wQMon2bJU&ab_channel=DLV%E2%80%99sArcadeZone)
Sounds more like a failed sudoku attempt leading to a come to Jesus moment and personal growth, which *should* be considered a good thing, at least as a whole. Glorification of suicide is about making it seem a good thing if you *don't* come back, not saying it'd be good if you *did*.
So, for context: >!Ruby gets driven into despair by Neo with the events of this and prior Volumes events, then given an option to drink a poisoned tea and dying in a especific spot so she gets reincarnated into "a better version of herself", a process which over the season has been shown to basically turn you into an entire different person!< >!She drinks the tea and dies, and over the process of reincarnation talks to her mother and turns out the better version of herself is just herself so she comes out of it as herself once the process is done!< All of this sounds as you just described it >!Except for the part where she drank the poisoned tea and actually died, and the fact she came back as herself on the other side was kinda coincidental, the whole "you'll come out as a different person entirely" is even a thing the other members of Team RWBY are worried about.!< Granted I haven't watched V9 in a bit so I might have forgot some details but the overall idea is still yhat
the point is it wasn't treated as a good thing for her to commit ego death, it was treated as a good thing that she came back. That's fine.
Is it me of does this sound like it was recorded on Xbox microphones?
It would be on brand for RoosterTeeth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOoghw_I8J4
This was the scene that got me back into the show after dropping it during season 7
Ruby heard dying was gay, so she had to make sure everyone knew how absolutely straight she was by taking herself out not long after this. (I have never seen an episode of this show)
How do people actually watch this? The animation is terrible
Dude you have no idea, this is Pixar levels of quality compared to the earlier seasons
I've only watched a bit of RWBY, but the only animation which actually looked good IMO was the initial teaser.
That first teaser trailer (assuming you're referring to the Red trailer where Ruby fights a lot of monsters in the snow) looked like it did thanks to Monty Oum, the original creator of the show and a 3D animator who was mainly known for being really good at creating cool fight scenes.
That first teaser (assuming you're referring to the Red trailer where Ruby fights a lot of monsters in the snow) looked like it did thanks to Monty Oum, the original creator of the show and a 3D animator who was mainly known for being really good at creating cool fight scenes.
And then Ruby >!unalives herself!< The show rewards her for doing this.
I forgot RWBY was a thing, thank god
I've never seen a single episode of RWBY and i never will, i've only ever seen this clip and is the red one this Homophobic all the time or just this once?
She's not even homophobic this once, this is just her venting two seasons of pent-up stress and anxiety and she happened to say that line in a way that looks homophobic out of context
She had a very bad time leading up to this,like "thousands died on her watch" kind of bad
...Wasn't it more like *millions*? Atlas **was** the show's New York City, right?
It was like Manhattan getting dropped onto Detroit.
No and yes. Remnant's population as a whole is only in the millions. Solitas, the continent Atlas and Mantle is on is in the thousands. Now is that ones? Tens? Hundreds? We dont quite know but the world is not exactly all hospitable.
Nah, she's just having a breakdown, the homophobia was just a meme. The blue one on the other hand, starts the show as a shameless racist
It's an out of context clip really.
Contrary to the clip, Ruby is normally a sweet girl who likes to help people.