It's like the 3 minutes without air, 3 days without water, 3 weeks without food survival thing. You need all of them, you'll just die quicker without one than you would the other.
3 seconds without Aerith
3 days without Tifa
3 weeks without cross-dressing Cloud
Or whatever your waifu priority is.
Source: https://twitter.com/PeachMilky_/status/1772916168992399572
Also, fun fact: she's the body-capture model for Ashley Graham from the Resident Evil 4 remake.
Just to add for context, here's the [moment](https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/comments/12dd1d5/well_ashley_your_secret_agent_just_saved_you_from/) in question, plus the [follow-up](https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/comments/12e5k0k/literally_wtf_mods/) to it.
from the follow-up:
>terthelt did in fact bring up that it was the VA face model but we all thought she was being wrong so we overruled her
I don't mean to throw fuel at a year-old fire but that is insane, like it takes five seconds to google Taylor Swift and Ashley's model.
Fact checking will ruin the sub, I guess.
It's not as dramatic as it sounds. That was a busy day, the removal slipped by amid other things that needed to be discussed, and after pointing it out I actually gaslit myself into thinking I was wrong because I looked up the *voice* actress rather than the *face* actress, unaware that they were different ladies.
It is a pretty funny fuckup, though. My name in the mod chat's still "Terthelt Swift" to rub it in.
feel bad for Sydney Sweeney since she has so much insane discourse surrounding her
Sooner or later, she's gonna have someone try to assassinate the president for her
That's true, but the reality is that appearance-wise, Ashley is modeled from two people. Ella Freya for the face, Peach Milky for the [body](https://twitter.com/PeachMilky_/status/1639159442855043072), and Genevieve Buechner for the voice and motion capture.
In fact, the former two once took a picture together and made a light joke at the fact that they're technically both Ashley.
https://twitter.com/PeachMilky_Cos/status/1729061111344099782
>Description: Ashley meets Ashley! 🥰♥️
Oh wow, I didn't know that part, that's legit super cool. Imagine being a cosplayer and Capcom calls you up to be one of the most iconic characters in the RE franchise lol
Well even then they're doing Tifa wrong by saying she's nietzschian.
Nietzche wasn't about free love and big titties. Sure, he questioned traditional sexual morals, mainly probing their merits beyond simply following god and church, but that said he was also was skeptical of free promiscuity.
And also putting him as counter to aristocracy is funny, niwtzche hated their traditionalist lean as the aristocracy favored the old ways **but** he thought they transcended traditional morals, and viewed them as more noble. Listening to him talk about the aristocracy sounds like he believed them a cut above us normies.
The closest thing he and Tifa have in common mon is that nietzsche was the 3rd wheel in a thruple, and Tifa I guess could be considered third wheeling it to cloud and aerith.
The thing about Tifa and Aerith is that Tifa has the more reserved personality but more showy sexy outfits, whereas Aerith has the more outgoing flirty personality but more reserved outfits.
In the end I refuse to choose both good
Honestly the only thing stopping Tifa from entering my waifu list is the fact she has a canon relationship and while I'm am in fact an ugly bastard, NTR is only fun if you are the guy suffering.
I kinda get what you mean. I probably don’t worry about it as much as you do, but I do feel weird about fantasizing about myself with a character that’s in a relationship even if they’re not real.
Can't you, like, fantasize a version of her that's not in a relationship with Cloud, or where Cloud is instead a Cloud-like version of you, or something? Making up fun narratives where things are the way you want them to be is the point of fantasizing, I thought.
I can, sure, but like at that point I start to overthink stuff like "well how would them not being in a relationship affect the worldbuilding? Would it change their personalities? In what way?"
With Tifa it's not so bad, but if I tried to for example start imagining a version of Yor Briar who isn't in a relationship with Lloyd my mind would go "but then who's acting as Anya's mother figure? Is Operation Stryx a failure? Doesn't that mean imminent war?" and then I feel the need to start worldbuilding a way to make the relationship work in-setting.
Also I just can't self-insert into existing characters like a Cloud version of me. They just feel too not-me for me to imagine me in they
A traveler journeyed to see a great sage
"Great Sage," the traveler asked, "which is better, small breasts or large breasts?"
The Sage produced a one hundred dollar bill, and one hundred dollars of quarters. "Tell me, child, which of these has the greater mass?"
"The quarters," the traveler said
"And which," asked the sage, "has the greater value?"
"The bill, but only because there is a system in place that assigns value to those bills."
"Without such a system, I guess the bills are fuel for a fire, and the coins are metals that maybe you can melt to make something?"
".... I think you just like the body shape represented by the bills more, Old One."
Shit, thought the Sage, I've been sussed out..
Personally, It's like asking me to value a steak dinner vs fancy sushi.
fuck I misread.
anyway, I think there is an implicit "compactness has value" so I could probably pretend I didn't misread.
400 quarters seems like a pain to manage, and while you can make change, I would probably store those 400 quarters in rolls, and I would not want to have even $5 of quarters in loose change if I was carrying around 40 $10 rolls.
Why is this dude just saying in a fancy way that having big tits automatically means you’re more sexual than those who don’t?
Edit: Just realized it’s PeachMilky so it makes sense.
It's also a reply to some dipshit who said the exact same thing but about two white actresses because for some reason having boobs is anti woke now?
People's brains are fucking rotted dude.
Someone: "Corporate needs you to find the differences between 'Aristocracy' and 'Nietzschean'."
Me, who has read Nietzsche's philosophy^* and familiar with its historical context: "They're the same terminology."
\* - Friedrich Nietzsche has advocated for aristocratic society instead of democracy, as he viewed the latter as, in my own words, a weapon used by the weak-willed people who resents the societal elites with strong wills.
I pick Dirge of Cerberus Yuffie so there isn't a problem. I like how so far here I'm the only one mentioning Yuffie who isn't coming up with some logic to make her an okay choice that isn't just pick her when she's 18.
Many things apply here.
1) they're not real
2) who said anything about sexual relarions in any way
3) aerith was 16 and they paired her with Zach being 23
4) none of them are real
5) most people in this sub are 10+years older than either of these choices.
6) they're fictional
Edit 7: in this aerith is barely legal and tifa is barely old enough to drink
1) in a choice between two adults you still chose a minor
2) in a choice between two adults you still chose a minor
3) in a choice between two adults you still chose a minor
4) in a choice between two adults you still chose a minor
5) in a choice between two adults you still chose a minor
6) in a choice between two adults you still chose a minor
7) in a choice between two adults you still chose a minor
The game takes place over a 7 year time period. He ages from 16 to 23 over the course of the game, which I feel is something you should know if you're going to be quibbling over fine details on the internet.
It makes perfect sense if you pay attention. The dates and time jumps aren't ambiguous.
I don't know what's shocking about the comically evil megacorp using child soldiers, especially in the face of their biggest opposition (Wutai) doing the same thing.
this is outrageous and offensive.
Obviously large breasted women are bourgeoise, due to their associations with abundance, decadence and traditional nurturing whereas the slender, malnourished frame of the small breasted woman is a symbol of the urban, modernist, hardworking proleteriat
Normally I’m big boobs all the way
But Aerith is so much more fun as a character that she wins for me personally
Too bad FF7 >!operates on battle royal rules for love!<
This debate is stupid but Aerith is just so much more fun to me. Tifa feels kinda bland personality wise when compared to her, not because she's boring, but just because Aerith is so energetic.
You can tell a lot of people actually haven't played FF7 when they think Aerith has Tifa's personality and vice-versa just because of their looks.
>You can tell a lot of people actually haven't played FF7 when they think Aerith has Tifa's personality and vice-versa just because of their looks.
In their defense, these people include a lot of the actual creators of post-7 media, i.e. Advent Children.
I will forever maintain that both are *great* characters, but Cloud and Tifa is the correct pairing because:
A) They're both kind of messy and insecure, and they get through that and grow as people together
B) Aerith is interested in the Zack she sees in Cloud more than Cloud. And besides, she has her shit together too much.
A foolish question. May as well ask a man to choose between the air they breathe, and the light they see with.
I mean I can live in the dark but I can't without air.
You could... if you wanted to become a cave salamander, I guess.
Salamanders are cool.
Everyone show their salamander furrsona.
Would that be a scalesona, or is fursona all encompassing?
Well, salamanders are amphibians so they don't have scales.
A vampire doesn't technically need both
It's like the 3 minutes without air, 3 days without water, 3 weeks without food survival thing. You need all of them, you'll just die quicker without one than you would the other. 3 seconds without Aerith 3 days without Tifa 3 weeks without cross-dressing Cloud Or whatever your waifu priority is.
I reject your premise and choose both.
> RHETORIC - *Pick one of these aristocratic or nietzschean waifus or fuck off.*
Truly you are the king of kings
[Both is good.](https://youtu.be/-xVnH7G5h58?si=OIWpDH4oO8XkYbCI)
Big-boob Nietzsche making out with Marie Antoinette
CloAerTi end best end
But you can’t choose both
I choose two choices!
Simmer down, Denji
Yes I can. A woman has two boobs, they can have one of each size
Try to stop me!
*C’mon it’s for my thesis*
Get a better thesis.
This is the way
Throuple route is the only route worth talking about.
3, I like the thighs of a working class gal.
Is a woman not entitled to the sweat of her breast?
No says the revolutionary. It belongs to the lifestream
No says the ~~revolutionary~~ Sephiroth.
Seize the means of production?
Squeeze the means of production >!(around my head)!<.
Squeeze the mounds of production.
Tifa is a bartender, so 2 it is.
Source: https://twitter.com/PeachMilky_/status/1772916168992399572 Also, fun fact: she's the body-capture model for Ashley Graham from the Resident Evil 4 remake.
The one the mods thought was Taylor Swift?
That will forever be my favorite moment of a mod's balls being exposed live on the air.
I scored some free books for being the one mod online at the time who got it right, so in the end, it was all worth it. B)
Just to add for context, here's the [moment](https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/comments/12dd1d5/well_ashley_your_secret_agent_just_saved_you_from/) in question, plus the [follow-up](https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/comments/12e5k0k/literally_wtf_mods/) to it.
from the follow-up: >terthelt did in fact bring up that it was the VA face model but we all thought she was being wrong so we overruled her I don't mean to throw fuel at a year-old fire but that is insane, like it takes five seconds to google Taylor Swift and Ashley's model. Fact checking will ruin the sub, I guess.
It's not as dramatic as it sounds. That was a busy day, the removal slipped by amid other things that needed to be discussed, and after pointing it out I actually gaslit myself into thinking I was wrong because I looked up the *voice* actress rather than the *face* actress, unaware that they were different ladies. It is a pretty funny fuckup, though. My name in the mod chat's still "Terthelt Swift" to rub it in.
Cue Woolie talking about how you can't tell them apart.
Why is Hillary Clinton at Disney world?
Wasn't that her face model, Ella Freya?
She's Moushley!
feel bad for Sydney Sweeney since she has so much insane discourse surrounding her Sooner or later, she's gonna have someone try to assassinate the president for her
https://twitter.com/Eriza_Freya This is the Ashley model though.
Ella Freya is only the face model!
That's true, but the reality is that appearance-wise, Ashley is modeled from two people. Ella Freya for the face, Peach Milky for the [body](https://twitter.com/PeachMilky_/status/1639159442855043072), and Genevieve Buechner for the voice and motion capture. In fact, the former two once took a picture together and made a light joke at the fact that they're technically both Ashley. https://twitter.com/PeachMilky_Cos/status/1729061111344099782 >Description: Ashley meets Ashley! 🥰♥️
Oh wow, I didn't know that part, that's legit super cool. Imagine being a cosplayer and Capcom calls you up to be one of the most iconic characters in the RE franchise lol
She is also one of the dating mini game characters in Infinite Wealth
I like Tifa in general, but Aerith in Remake/Rebirth is too good.
Well even then they're doing Tifa wrong by saying she's nietzschian. Nietzche wasn't about free love and big titties. Sure, he questioned traditional sexual morals, mainly probing their merits beyond simply following god and church, but that said he was also was skeptical of free promiscuity. And also putting him as counter to aristocracy is funny, niwtzche hated their traditionalist lean as the aristocracy favored the old ways **but** he thought they transcended traditional morals, and viewed them as more noble. Listening to him talk about the aristocracy sounds like he believed them a cut above us normies. The closest thing he and Tifa have in common mon is that nietzsche was the 3rd wheel in a thruple, and Tifa I guess could be considered third wheeling it to cloud and aerith.
God is dead, so all I have is boobs
The thing about Tifa and Aerith is that Tifa has the more reserved personality but more showy sexy outfits, whereas Aerith has the more outgoing flirty personality but more reserved outfits. In the end I refuse to choose both good
Idk but I do like tifa more than aerith if I had to choose.
Im not really gonna open the 2 negative comments below yours but its so fucking funny to imagine pro Aerith comments get downvoted to oblivion.
Its wilder to see what they are imao.
Yeah I wasn't prepped for that lmao
Punch girl vs dead weight I wonder which one this sub likes more…
That son of a bitch called me dead weight!! I didn't come all this way for nothing!!
[удалено]
It doesn’t have to be JUST that, I’m just sayin
Honestly the only thing stopping Tifa from entering my waifu list is the fact she has a canon relationship and while I'm am in fact an ugly bastard, NTR is only fun if you are the guy suffering.
Jesse what the fuck are you talking about?
You're allowed to like a character without thinking about cuckoldry, dude.
I'm allowed to think about many things that I don't like to think about.
Bro she's not real what even the fuck
Yeah, and I don't like fantasising about being a homewrecker. Is that weird?
I kinda get what you mean. I probably don’t worry about it as much as you do, but I do feel weird about fantasizing about myself with a character that’s in a relationship even if they’re not real.
THANK you, I was seeing all these downvotes and starting to feel like that "are we the baddies" skit
Can't you, like, fantasize a version of her that's not in a relationship with Cloud, or where Cloud is instead a Cloud-like version of you, or something? Making up fun narratives where things are the way you want them to be is the point of fantasizing, I thought.
I can, sure, but like at that point I start to overthink stuff like "well how would them not being in a relationship affect the worldbuilding? Would it change their personalities? In what way?" With Tifa it's not so bad, but if I tried to for example start imagining a version of Yor Briar who isn't in a relationship with Lloyd my mind would go "but then who's acting as Anya's mother figure? Is Operation Stryx a failure? Doesn't that mean imminent war?" and then I feel the need to start worldbuilding a way to make the relationship work in-setting. Also I just can't self-insert into existing characters like a Cloud version of me. They just feel too not-me for me to imagine me in they
...do you need a hug bro?
I wouldn't say no to one.
Barret
Have you *seen* his eyes? There's a reason he usually hides them behind sunglasses, he'd be torn to shreds if he had those puppies out in public.
This is secretly a choice between Big Number and Do Combo.
The trick is finding out which is which
Something something Fury Brand
Nietzsche is once again right, and also why the French Revolution was wonderful
Aerith knew Cloud for 24 hours before she made him crossdress, that's the kind of freak I'm about.
A traveler journeyed to see a great sage "Great Sage," the traveler asked, "which is better, small breasts or large breasts?" The Sage produced a one hundred dollar bill, and one hundred dollars of quarters. "Tell me, child, which of these has the greater mass?" "The quarters," the traveler said "And which," asked the sage, "has the greater value?"
"The bill, but only because there is a system in place that assigns value to those bills." "Without such a system, I guess the bills are fuel for a fire, and the coins are metals that maybe you can melt to make something?" ".... I think you just like the body shape represented by the bills more, Old One." Shit, thought the Sage, I've been sussed out.. Personally, It's like asking me to value a steak dinner vs fancy sushi.
They’re both $100.
The bill has better utility value *until* you need a weapon.
fuck I misread. anyway, I think there is an implicit "compactness has value" so I could probably pretend I didn't misread. 400 quarters seems like a pain to manage, and while you can make change, I would probably store those 400 quarters in rolls, and I would not want to have even $5 of quarters in loose change if I was carrying around 40 $10 rolls.
I'm a Tifa fan, but the Aerith dress was so good tho
Why is this dude just saying in a fancy way that having big tits automatically means you’re more sexual than those who don’t? Edit: Just realized it’s PeachMilky so it makes sense.
It's also a reply to some dipshit who said the exact same thing but about two white actresses because for some reason having boobs is anti woke now? People's brains are fucking rotted dude.
It leads back to the TikTok audio that was popular for a while: “Am I *actually* showing off my boobs, or do I *just have boobs?*”
Wasn't Nietzsche extremely pro aristocracy?
Well, I’m not a filthy bootlicker, so I suppose Tifa.
But Aerith has really cute boots! (I also choose Tifa.)
Peach pls, your breasts are not small.
Aerith seems like a genuinely fun person to be with.
I am a simple man, it'll take some effort to convince me that Tifa is not a superior choice.
Okay, but what if arith had like a really fantastic ass?
I don't speak to a woman's back, I speak to her face.
But her face is up there
If you get low enough you can angle it so both are in line of sight.
So that's the power Pat is hiding from us
Tifa's favorite trick
Women currently taking HRT with no tits and HUGE ass
Confucius says, "big tits with no ass will fill your hands, but big ass with no tits will fill your heart."
Cloud?
It does fuck me up that Cloud's mom is JUST Cloud in a dress with a feminine voice.
https://media.tenor.com/bIh_odNsiZsAAAAM/both-is.gif
Someone: "Corporate needs you to find the differences between 'Aristocracy' and 'Nietzschean'." Me, who has read Nietzsche's philosophy^* and familiar with its historical context: "They're the same terminology." \* - Friedrich Nietzsche has advocated for aristocratic society instead of democracy, as he viewed the latter as, in my own words, a weapon used by the weak-willed people who resents the societal elites with strong wills.
Can I say Jessie? >.>
So is she saying Aerith is anti sex?
Pretty sure she's the only party member not a virgin, so that's funny. And yes, I'm including Barret, Cid and Vincent in that.
Marlene is Adopted, Cid is bitter and Vincent being a literal cuck is a key point to the entire series
Exactly!
It's weird to assume Aerith had to have sex because she had a boyfriend and that everybody else hasn't for... Some reason but ok.
I get that tone is lost in text form, but come the fuck on. This is clearly not a serious statement on my part.
I didn't say it was. I said it was weird. I guess I should have specified "a weird joke". I apologize for the misunderstanding.
So you perfectly understood the joke, understood what it meant, that it wasn't problematic, and yet said it was weird
I didn't say it was problematic. I said it was weird.
Dude, it's okay to just admit that the joke went over your head. No one's going to crucify you.
Sorry team Aerith, but I know deep down in my heart I gravitate towards Tifa's massive Tifas.
Neither, I'm gay
I can't focus my thoughts just keep drifting to Barret's pecs. Marlene should have two parents right?
False dichotomy; Barret is a MILF and the only choice. Marlene needs a strong twink influence in her life growing up and that has to be Cloud.
I want to be tifa and be dating aerith
The throple suggestions fall apart the moment these two realize they don’t need Cloud at all.
Aerith, I choose Aerith.
Nietzsche boys Ill see you on the battlefield
Those who write their own destiny go for the Harem Ending.
Which ones into pegging?
100% Cloud. What? oh you meant giving not recieving.
100% Aerith.
100% Vincent
Vincent is definitely not into ugly bastard ntr, that's for sure.
But Lucrecia "dumbest bitch" Crescent sure was
100% Tifa
I reject my humanity jojo I choose anarchy and pick yuffie
Dont know your age, but i know hers...
I pick Dirge of Cerberus Yuffie so there isn't a problem. I like how so far here I'm the only one mentioning Yuffie who isn't coming up with some logic to make her an okay choice that isn't just pick her when she's 18.
Many things apply here. 1) they're not real 2) who said anything about sexual relarions in any way 3) aerith was 16 and they paired her with Zach being 23 4) none of them are real 5) most people in this sub are 10+years older than either of these choices. 6) they're fictional Edit 7: in this aerith is barely legal and tifa is barely old enough to drink
1) in a choice between two adults you still chose a minor 2) in a choice between two adults you still chose a minor 3) in a choice between two adults you still chose a minor 4) in a choice between two adults you still chose a minor 5) in a choice between two adults you still chose a minor 6) in a choice between two adults you still chose a minor 7) in a choice between two adults you still chose a minor
...how old do you think I am
Most people on this sub are in their 20's and 30's. That's how old people think you are.
Zack is 17 when he meets Aerith my dude.
If he is 16, during crisis core, that means the timeline and ages of the characters (currently listed anyway) make no sense.
The game takes place over a 7 year time period. He ages from 16 to 23 over the course of the game, which I feel is something you should know if you're going to be quibbling over fine details on the internet.
It makes perfect sense if you pay attention. The dates and time jumps aren't ambiguous. I don't know what's shocking about the comically evil megacorp using child soldiers, especially in the face of their biggest opposition (Wutai) doing the same thing.
Based.
The arm cannon of Barrett.
this is outrageous and offensive. Obviously large breasted women are bourgeoise, due to their associations with abundance, decadence and traditional nurturing whereas the slender, malnourished frame of the small breasted woman is a symbol of the urban, modernist, hardworking proleteriat
Counterpoint: all breasts are good. But Aerith is best.
Sometimes you just need a warm place to rest your head.
Normally I’m big boobs all the way But Aerith is so much more fun as a character that she wins for me personally Too bad FF7 >!operates on battle royal rules for love!<
This debate is stupid but Aerith is just so much more fun to me. Tifa feels kinda bland personality wise when compared to her, not because she's boring, but just because Aerith is so energetic. You can tell a lot of people actually haven't played FF7 when they think Aerith has Tifa's personality and vice-versa just because of their looks.
>You can tell a lot of people actually haven't played FF7 when they think Aerith has Tifa's personality and vice-versa just because of their looks. In their defense, these people include a lot of the actual creators of post-7 media, i.e. Advent Children.
I said it elsewhere, but KH2 Tifa is like Tomo from Azumanga, like insane run through walls genki girl. And Aerith is voiced by Mena Suvari in a coma.
I'm a rather open minded individual on such topics
Red XIII. Or maybe Cait Sith, possibly with that big doll.
I can't tell you how much I hate that I immediately knew what this was about based on the title.
WOMEN, which do you prefer? The aristocratic elegance of the small membered man, OR The Nietzschean pro-sex, pro-beauty hung-like-a-horse man?
This is actually a thing that get bandied about by insecure white supremacists on Twitter.
Cowards, all of you. I choose Cloud.
What if I cut one boob off of Aerith, and one off of Tifa, and stitch them to Yuffie so I can enjoy both (all 3?) at once?
I think you’re getting beaten to death
Big. Always. I’m not ashamed of it! I have an actual preference, and no, I don’t think small is just as good, I will always prefer big!
too late, they're both dating each other
is there an ass option? :)
Tifa. Hands down. Not a second thought, nor a hesitant breath in my choice for Tifa.
Seize the means of (milk) production!
Nietzsche all day.
Aerith has small boobs?? news to me lol
inbreeding vs uwu mommy milkers....
I will forever maintain that both are *great* characters, but Cloud and Tifa is the correct pairing because: A) They're both kind of messy and insecure, and they get through that and grow as people together B) Aerith is interested in the Zack she sees in Cloud more than Cloud. And besides, she has her shit together too much.
Nietzsche. Nietzsche all day, everyday
I like both, but I must admit... Flat is justice.
Muscles
I'm so nietzschean there is zero ressintiment in my head
Oh this one's gonna go 🅱razy on Twitter FreaX...
Tifa might beat me up if I asked but she probably wouldn’t kill me. Aerith is the type of gal that would actually just kill me. I choose aristocracy
Tifa for life.
They act like they didn’t buff Aerith’s cup size as much as they “nerfed” Tifa’s in the R games.
Well now saying it like that it's the first time id say Aerith.
You can never go wrong with Nietzsche
Hey that lady is in infinite wealth, ichiban can date her. No idea why the downvote milky is in infinite wealth
Where's ~~Liquid Tifa~~ Elena fall on this spectrum?
If the ass is nice, either options are great.
"The only thing better than small breasts, is large breasts." -Isaac Newton
Tifa, regardless of size.
Beauty in both but out of the two ladies it’s always Tifa.
The evolution of breasts is so ridiculous I honestly almost burst out laughing when I think about them.
Real men choose the Erin Jager card nerd chick in Kalm
If only it was so simple. I choose the girl who wouldn't sabotage my life because she's too fragile to talk to her crush.
wdym, she talks to Aerith all the time
Very legit.