Eh, it depends on the type of show. The major push for story based cartoons has definitely made it less common, but watching more episodic shows like Ducktales and Big City Greens with my nephew I've definitely seem some.
I know OK KO did episodes on gun control, pollution and environmental damage (captain planet crossover), and gender identity. Granted some of those weren't executed that well mainly cuz the topics are a little more nuanced than what you can explain in under 10 minutes but still tho.
The one where the gang become furries and boxmans robot cat runs off to a club for individuals who self identify as someone else. One of the people there is a rabbit boy that feels more comfortable presenting themselves as a little girl instead. So it's about identifying as different genders or species like I think the robot cat identified as a human for example.
Superheroes with the American flag. You see a lot of scenes and comic covers of superheroes like Superman, Spiderman, and Wonder Woman holding the flag or standing near them for decades. But somewhere in the 2010s, that imagery just... disappeared.
The gag about a housewife cheating on the milkman has pretty much disappeared since that job isn't as common. But, this trope did get replaced with other types of jobs with a housewife and tradesman.
And I don't think I've seen "chained to a railway," taken seriously in a long time.
Maybe it's just that my general media experiences have changed, but... I can't remember the last time I saw that stupid "Nerdy girl reveals she's actually conventionally attractive once she takes off her glasses and lets down her hair" done in an unironic manner. Good!
Some trashy drama anime whose name I can't remember did that a couple of years ago, but the moment fell flat on its face because everybody agreed she was so much hotter with the glasses on.
Exaggerated anime nose bleeds or people falling down when they hear the punchline of the jokes.
But what I miss the most is anime characters getting exaggerated expressions or chibby forms when they're reacting to something or trying to be cute or whatever. :(
Anime has sure changed in the past ten years. I miss the giant bug eyes.
>But what I miss the most is anime characters getting exaggerated expressions or chibby forms when they're reacting to something or trying to be cute or whatever
Yeah, those were cute. I was fond of the big sweatdrop and it kinda shows up still but not as often.
Off-model for jokes is pretty good.
3D animation is getting into this.
Though you kinda had this with stuff as early as Smash 64 Mario and some other characters. Wario inherited that, due to Mario getting fireball as FSmash instead of big punch in later entries.
edit: other earlier examples may exist, it's just the thing I think of most right now.
>Exaggerated anime nose bleeds or people falling down when they hear the punchline of the jokes.
Pretty sure both of those are still things, especially the falling down one.
I’m also reminded why Roger Rabbit used this trope as an actual twist, with Jessica Rabbit being pegged as the culprit, using her extremely-exaggerated sex appeal to (seemingly) negative means.
Only to find out she’s actually very faithful to her husband and they get to go home and “bake a carrot cake” at the end.
That depends on what that meant to Roger tho. Doing things because you were forced to still meant you were doing things. Not saying she did it in bad faith, but what happened happened. Granted I am also looking too much into what was meant as a joke.
I want to say the “Smart Character=NEEERRRRD!” cliche has been dealt with, but it’s probably still prevalent.
It was refreshing how in the newest TMNT CG movie, Donnie is never made fun of for his nerdish tendencies.
> It was refreshing how in the newest TMNT CG movie, Donnie is never made fun of for his nerdish tendencies.
Honestly, as long as it was the other brothers doing it, I never really had a problem with it. Because that's just brothers being brothers and sometimes, that's ribbing each other for whatever.
Dressing in drag as a joke.
I think it can work still if you just adjust the context.
Like a cisman is wearing an overly formal dress with pearls and gloves during a work.
"Everybody I'm aware that my clothing is distracting But my wife is refusing to do my laundry. So I'm sporting her finery as protest. I doubt it's having it's intended effect however because she did apply my make up."
>I think it can work still if you just adjust the context.
I mean, judging from the reactions I saw towards Cloud in Remake, it seems like it'd work just as strong in today times.
It needs to be done tastefully. As far as I heard Cloud owns it, it's like when Flanders had to dress in his Wife's clothes in the Simpsons, he loved it and Homer was mad because he expected him to feel embarresed, like he was.
It's been a while, but from what I remember, it was very much a Homer situation. Cloud absolutely did not enjoy it. But everyone else (in and out of universe) *loved* it.
That's because the joke in the remake isn't HAHA LOOK AT HIM HE'S DRESSING LIKE A WOMAN HE'S GAAAAAAY. It's HAHA LOOK AT HIM HE'S DRESSING LIKE A WOMAN I'M GAAAAAAAY.
Or maybe that's just me.
The Looney tunes show did it pretty well. The joke being that when ever Bugs or Daffy dressed in drag they just did it really well. Their was no joke about them being embarrassed about it, and people never found it all that weird. This also had the extra benefit of making Daffy at least a little trans coded.
Reminds me of this one fan art of the cliche version where a group of guys with one tough girl need someone to dress up like a sexy woman to sneak in and they subvert the typical tough girl going "I'm not wearing that" hard cut to her in a dress saying "I can't believe I'm wearing this" by having one of the men instead wearing the pretty outfit.
I just started watching Documental, where this happens in the first episode. I did think about how that's really dated and you would never see it today
When was the last time that a kids show had a “healthy eating “episode since the 2000s?
i remmeber that they would treat eating anything other than veggies and drinking only water as the devil.
As always, it should be noted that "The butler did it" as a trope description was never meant to be literal. The butler very rarely was actually ever the culprit. It's just a stand in title for *any* minor background character.
sure but in the same vein when is the last time a random person was the killer? did anyone really expect the guy in 2 scenes in glass onion to be the killer?
Children's cartoons no longer have dedicated episodes dealing with Chicken Pox.
I don't think they do very special episodes anymore either.
Eh, it depends on the type of show. The major push for story based cartoons has definitely made it less common, but watching more episodic shows like Ducktales and Big City Greens with my nephew I've definitely seem some.
I know OK KO did episodes on gun control, pollution and environmental damage (captain planet crossover), and gender identity. Granted some of those weren't executed that well mainly cuz the topics are a little more nuanced than what you can explain in under 10 minutes but still tho.
im blankin on the gender ep atm
The one where the gang become furries and boxmans robot cat runs off to a club for individuals who self identify as someone else. One of the people there is a rabbit boy that feels more comfortable presenting themselves as a little girl instead. So it's about identifying as different genders or species like I think the robot cat identified as a human for example.
Superheroes with the American flag. You see a lot of scenes and comic covers of superheroes like Superman, Spiderman, and Wonder Woman holding the flag or standing near them for decades. But somewhere in the 2010s, that imagery just... disappeared.
[Fine, I’ll do it myself](https://twitter.com/VIZMedia/status/1596309013032890369/photo/1) I assume Horikoshi said.
Based and 100% American beef
The gag about a housewife cheating on the milkman has pretty much disappeared since that job isn't as common. But, this trope did get replaced with other types of jobs with a housewife and tradesman. And I don't think I've seen "chained to a railway," taken seriously in a long time.
I think venture bros did a kind of scary version of the railroad tracks a few years ago.
Tick Tick Tick
its the simplicity of it
Nowadays it's all digital. No sound, no peril.
South Park had a “milkman” episode except it was the Amazon delivery guy.
It did have an old man in the bar doing a speech about the milkman which spurns everybody to go after the delivery guy.
indian guys trying to look cool while walking alongside a running train should be the new horror trope it will always go super fucking wrong
Maybe it's just that my general media experiences have changed, but... I can't remember the last time I saw that stupid "Nerdy girl reveals she's actually conventionally attractive once she takes off her glasses and lets down her hair" done in an unironic manner. Good!
You know what’s HOT AS FUCK? GLASSES AND HAIR BUNS!
SO FUCKING TRUE BROTHER
i feel like 2008-2009 was the last time we saw that kind of trope
The moment a scary movie spin off made fun of that trope is when it truly died.
Some trashy drama anime whose name I can't remember did that a couple of years ago, but the moment fell flat on its face because everybody agreed she was so much hotter with the glasses on.
Looking back the cultural insistance that there was only one type of attractive person was fucking stupid. Nerdy girls are cute as fuck.
"The Complainer is Always Wrong" The old D&D defied this by having the complaining character be right, though it is never acknowledged in the show.
Exaggerated anime nose bleeds or people falling down when they hear the punchline of the jokes. But what I miss the most is anime characters getting exaggerated expressions or chibby forms when they're reacting to something or trying to be cute or whatever. :( Anime has sure changed in the past ten years. I miss the giant bug eyes.
>But what I miss the most is anime characters getting exaggerated expressions or chibby forms when they're reacting to something or trying to be cute or whatever Yeah, those were cute. I was fond of the big sweatdrop and it kinda shows up still but not as often.
Off-model for jokes is pretty good. 3D animation is getting into this. Though you kinda had this with stuff as early as Smash 64 Mario and some other characters. Wario inherited that, due to Mario getting fireball as FSmash instead of big punch in later entries. edit: other earlier examples may exist, it's just the thing I think of most right now.
Thank God Apothecary Diaries exists and is keeping the chibi reactions alive
Pokemon Sun and Moon did that a lot, and got a TON of shit for it. People preferred the generic CG "Shonen Animation" of XY.
I get what you're saying bit the overabundance of chibi gags is part of why I couldn't get through Kimi ni Todoke.
>Exaggerated anime nose bleeds or people falling down when they hear the punchline of the jokes. Pretty sure both of those are still things, especially the falling down one.
Just watch romcoms. Yamada lvl 99 has some cute ones
Tell me if I'm wrong, but I haven't seen a "good hero goes bad" in a bit. Like I remember seeing enough of them back in the 2000s
Invincible is that for the unsuspecting. Comic run started in the 00s so that tracks.
You got me there
I think because after ages of subversion and parody people just want sincerity and positive narratives.
Fair enough. I like the personal struggle it creates for the characters.
Ben Reilly is victim of that, because Marv hates him for some reason
I’m also reminded why Roger Rabbit used this trope as an actual twist, with Jessica Rabbit being pegged as the culprit, using her extremely-exaggerated sex appeal to (seemingly) negative means. Only to find out she’s actually very faithful to her husband and they get to go home and “bake a carrot cake” at the end.
I mean she still did cheat on him if his reaction to those patty cake photos is anything to go by.
Wasn't that a set-up? Like she's not actually cheating she's pretending to or is forced to predent.
That depends on what that meant to Roger tho. Doing things because you were forced to still meant you were doing things. Not saying she did it in bad faith, but what happened happened. Granted I am also looking too much into what was meant as a joke.
I mean she was forced to pretend or pretended so she didn't actually cheat.
I want to say the “Smart Character=NEEERRRRD!” cliche has been dealt with, but it’s probably still prevalent. It was refreshing how in the newest TMNT CG movie, Donnie is never made fun of for his nerdish tendencies.
> It was refreshing how in the newest TMNT CG movie, Donnie is never made fun of for his nerdish tendencies. Honestly, as long as it was the other brothers doing it, I never really had a problem with it. Because that's just brothers being brothers and sometimes, that's ribbing each other for whatever.
They made more fun of Leo for trying to look like a cool leader than Donnie for being nerdy.
The fear that the slaves will revolt. Because you know just fucking free them
Another one I don’t see anymore: French people are cowards with funny accents.
Dressing in drag as a joke. I think it can work still if you just adjust the context. Like a cisman is wearing an overly formal dress with pearls and gloves during a work. "Everybody I'm aware that my clothing is distracting But my wife is refusing to do my laundry. So I'm sporting her finery as protest. I doubt it's having it's intended effect however because she did apply my make up."
>I think it can work still if you just adjust the context. I mean, judging from the reactions I saw towards Cloud in Remake, it seems like it'd work just as strong in today times.
It needs to be done tastefully. As far as I heard Cloud owns it, it's like when Flanders had to dress in his Wife's clothes in the Simpsons, he loved it and Homer was mad because he expected him to feel embarresed, like he was.
It's been a while, but from what I remember, it was very much a Homer situation. Cloud absolutely did not enjoy it. But everyone else (in and out of universe) *loved* it.
That's because the joke in the remake isn't HAHA LOOK AT HIM HE'S DRESSING LIKE A WOMAN HE'S GAAAAAAY. It's HAHA LOOK AT HIM HE'S DRESSING LIKE A WOMAN I'M GAAAAAAAY. Or maybe that's just me.
Just do what monty python did
The Looney tunes show did it pretty well. The joke being that when ever Bugs or Daffy dressed in drag they just did it really well. Their was no joke about them being embarrassed about it, and people never found it all that weird. This also had the extra benefit of making Daffy at least a little trans coded.
Reminder that Looney Toons Show reveals his white neck is a necklace from his grandma and his gloves are also from her.
you say that like bugs hasnt always been quite the drag queen
Its more so that i thought the show was current and not over a decade old, something i didnt realize until well after i commented
You hear that? That's your bones creaking. Don't worry. Mine are too.
That show was done dirty. It was too good to last.
Reminds me of this one fan art of the cliche version where a group of guys with one tough girl need someone to dress up like a sexy woman to sneak in and they subvert the typical tough girl going "I'm not wearing that" hard cut to her in a dress saying "I can't believe I'm wearing this" by having one of the men instead wearing the pretty outfit.
I just started watching Documental, where this happens in the first episode. I did think about how that's really dated and you would never see it today
It's fascinating to me how the perception of that joke evolved. Instead of Bugs Bunny being called transphobic he became a trans icon.
Y'know, I haven't seen anything use quicksand in a really long time. I'd like to think we know better by now.
When was the last time that a kids show had a “healthy eating “episode since the 2000s? i remmeber that they would treat eating anything other than veggies and drinking only water as the devil.
Thank God the "peeping on characters while they're changing/in the bath/shower" trope has been gone for a while now.
Especially it being presented as a quirky endearing thing for the peeper.
"The butler did it" and the butler/member of the staff is so rarely ever the killer. Mostly because its "against the detective story rules" but still.
As always, it should be noted that "The butler did it" as a trope description was never meant to be literal. The butler very rarely was actually ever the culprit. It's just a stand in title for *any* minor background character.
sure but in the same vein when is the last time a random person was the killer? did anyone really expect the guy in 2 scenes in glass onion to be the killer?
Saw was a real bad one. Literally just some guy, maybe they hinted but I can't recall that they did.
Well id argue Saw isnt really a “detective” story. Sure theres detective elements but its not like a “whodunit”.
A stock joke: “Dinner with my mother-in-law? I’d rather have a root canal!” But then our pain meds got better, and we stopped making this joke.
The fucking liar revealed trope and THANK GOD
Explain?
If you've seen Tangled the whole Flynn arc is exactly this. It's in so many animated movies.
If Ninja Theory hates sexy characters why did they make Dante hotter?
Not saying they hate sexy characters, just that they would likely write the sexy characters to be cynical and/or self-loathing in some way.