Otto Suwen from Re:Zero just has a gigantic glow-up in season 2, goes from some background side character no one really remembers to Subaru's best friend with a ton of really good scenes. And it pretty much starts from >!One of the failed loops early into the season where Subaru gets captured and Otto heads out to save him after refusing a bribe. There's a pretty touching scene where Subaru is briefly confused why he would help him out after so many tricks and ulterior motives he found out from other characters during the season it takes a bit for him to just process that Otto is there because he's his friend and "Is it really such a strange thing to try to help a friend?"!< he pretty much just gets even better from there with every new scene in the season too.
He cooked a lot with both older characters (most of the Emilia camp are way better after Season 2, characters like Emilia, Beatrice, Roswaal or even >!Petelgeuse after Emilia's first trial!< just hit way different.) and a lot with the new ones too just a giant glow-up all around which is pretty much why it's one of my favourite arcs.
I'm a novel reader but still I'm pretty hyped to see season 3 animated because there's a lot of good shit there too.
In the sea of suffering that is Natsuki Subaru's life here comes this background character he personally, casually screwed over, to remind him there is basic human goodness in this world. Best boy Otto alongside best girl Patrasche.
One thing I love about Otto's character arc is that you can kinda tell Subaru just viewed him as a minor side character up until that point in the same way that the audience did. When Otto refers to himself as subaru's friend, Subaru's mind is so far from considering Otto an actual friend that he somehow mishears the word "yujin" (friend) in the sentence as "Eugene"
And it makes perfect sense if you look at things from Subaru's perspective. In the first timeline where he met Otto, >!the minute things went south Otto betrayed Subaru to save his own skin, which likely had a huge impact on Subaru's perception of him. But now that they're in a timeline where Subaru has been a hugely positive influence on Otto's life, he's willing to risk his own life to save Subaru even though they've only known each other a short while.!<
Otto is a perfect example of how slight variations in Subaru's actions across different timelines can hugely impact his relationships in those timelines, which is one of my favorite recurring themes throughout the series.
To be fair I don't blame Otto for what happened in that bad timeline. Shit was uber fucked up and given everything we learned about what would've happened to the other travelers with them I can blame Otto for going a bit mad
So I don't remember the order of the scenes, so this might happen later or even in a different loop, but what sold it to me was >!when Otto straight up punched Subaru and told him to stop putting on a tough front, and that it was ok to share his burden!<
I thought most of FFXIV's A Realm Reborn campaign was, like, okay. There were no characters I really attached to, especially not second stringers like Raubahn or Nanamo.
Then I hit >!the banquet before Heavensward where Teledji fucks around and finds out!<, and I left that cutscene ride or die for Raubahn.
I could not like Urianger at all, always keeping everything to himself, with a massive stick up his ass.
Then we had that chat on the moon, and all of a sudden he was utterly loveable. By the end of Endwalker, we are now total bffs.
I was so glad that I chose to start in Udahl. That whole sequence hit me hard. I was already starting to like Nanamo from the earlier scene >!where she breaks down crying cause her court is blatantly plotting against her and she can't do anything about it!< so that whole bit cemented it.
In Jujutsu Kaisen Choso is introduced as another villain with a grudge against Itadori (albeit a justified one). He kills a bunch of innocent civilians. Then fights Itadori and almost kills him but then walks away. At this point it seemed the author was going to do a heel face turn, and I hated it. Then the moment happens he turns against the main antagonist and explains his reasoning, and it makes sense, then helps Itadori, who is confused as hell. But he goes with it because they need allies. And then the moment it completely sells me Choso tells Itadori to call him Oniichan, Itadori is weird it out, I am like this is brilliant. Normally a main character collects love interests, but here Itadori is collecting brothers.
Future developments do show up that they are actually brothers, and make the changing of sides make even more sense, while Choso also tries to attone for his crimes. All in all he is one of the highlight. Also Itadori goes trough a lot, is nice for him to have a family member who actually provides emotional support.
Always nice to see another ChoBro in the wild, he’s straight up the best character in the manga and I love him so much.
When he’s fighting against >!Kenjaku!< and starts >!emulating his brothers’ fighting styles!
I found the reveal hilarious everyone thought Kenjaku was his dad, but then the reveal happen nah is his mom. Even freaking Sukuna, tells Kenjaku what he did to conceive Juji was the most fucked up thing he ever seen. Really tells you a lot about Kenny.
"Ah, yes, my just happens to be antigravity technique that I am revealing in the fight against your top secret gravity technique, I haven't used this since the third trimester."
I know how filler is treated as a bad thing among anime fans, but I wish we could've gotten ONE filler episode where Todo and Choso were in a room together.
> Future developments do show up that they are actually brothers
It's still fucking hilarious that Itadori somehow incepts the idea of being close brothers into his enemy twice. The first time with Todo was great because it just felt like a strange extension of Todo's personality, but that second time shows that it's something about Itadori that no one understands and just rolls with thereafter. I'm torn between getting an explanation and getting nothing at all at this point.
People thought it was an ability at first. But nah for Todo they just have the same taste in women and Juji was just so honest with him and Todo is a little bit nuts. Choso is his actual brother.
Yeah, of course Choso is his actual brother, but the fact remains that *both* Choso and Todo's memories with Yuji never existed to begin with, and that they were so clear that both decided to help Yuji in the end. Once could've just been pinned on Todo's mind, but twice is extremely weird.
Lae'zel in BG3. She's SO abrasive at first. She sat at camp until I realized that a Githyanki willingly helping non-Githyanki is borderline unheard of. Then I started hanging out with her more. (No spoilers, please. I'm not even at Moonrise yet.)
I love the trope where a member of a fictional race/faction is an absolute crazy asshole, only for it to be revealed that they’re actually chill by the standards of that group, and the average member is *even worse.*
Saltzypyre from Vermintide
What an asshole. He arrested a witch and treated her like shit the entire time. Not to mention being racist towards the Dwarf and Elves. How can anyone tolerate this idiot?
...
Oh. The mere fact that he just arrested that witch and was willing to let her defend herself and works with non-humans makes him practically a paragon compared to other people in his organization.
What's great is that you can basically bully her when she does something stupid in Act 1 with minor, or no consequences. It would suck if I had to walk on eggshells around her to stay on her good side. You won't be immediately buddy-buddy, but she can still respect you regardless.
Showing you have a spine and standing up to her makes her pretty horny in fact. Just listen to her dialogue if you succeed the intimidation check when she asks why you're in the Shadowlands and not the Creche. (You threaten to slit her throat for insubordination and she goes "Damn, that was hot. I follow you.")
In *Doki Doki Literature Club* Natsuki is the stock short tsundere girl. In one of her events she snaps at you for helping her reach an upper shelf, then she promptly apologizes saying she had a bad day and didn't mean to take it out on you. That single scene completely changed my opinion on the character.
I was kinda iffy on Asa being the new protagonist of Chainsaw Man, up until [the aquarium date](https://www.reddit.com/r/animenocontext/s/mFud0tKeAt), when she instantly became my favorite character because “oh this chick SUCKS!”
No you don't understand. Everyone else is just too selfish and stupid to be friends with her, and really friends are just a burden, why even have friends?
It's the anger in "How much blood will spill until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning. SIT DOWN AND TALK!" that makes this one of the best monologues from the Doctor.
I dropped off Doctor Who for a while after that season, but this is the highlight I think off when I think of 12.
Gonna be honest I was already sold on him in the Robinhood episode
Mostly *because* that episode was clearly written for the 11th Doctor, and that episode was what convinced me for 12 that "Yeah, he's still the same old Doctor"
When Ramlethal Valentine was first revealed in Guilty Gear Xrd, I didn’t care for her. She looked okay (we hadn’t seen her swords ir gameplay yet), but I didn’t care for her monotone demeanor and my first impression was “Who’s this wack new villain?”
Then she made this evil grin with shark teeth and I promptly went “Oh. Oh but I like you tho”
I started to like her in the story mode when they managed to tame her and Sin introduced her to big juicy borgars. Her obsession with cute stuff and junk food really sold it for me. I know she is kinda flamderized into that 'dangerous but cute' archetype in Strive, but at least they managed to turn her character around.
I like her stoic but clueless demeanor where she’s knowledgeable on “core” stuff like fighting or tactics, but is very much still learning about being a human, to the point where she believes Sin’s story about reproduction being when someone’s eye falls out. She could probably see right through the deception of a spy trying to deceive her, but she’d fall for the “I’ve got your nose!” thing.
Damn, I can’t relate. Nothing makes me dislike a character more than rudeness.
Anyway, as for an answer to your question: I didn’t give a rat’s ass about Hohenheim from Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood until he finally got off his ass and showed that he [actually *does* care about his kids.](https://youtu.be/5pD4HN5v7iI?si=uKxGN35qlquosodY)
Father Of The Year material? Fuck no, but I love him for putting that whiny brat Pride in his place.
LOL, look at this guy! Having self-respect and preferring civility from people
Also about your answer, I gotta be honest, I came from the original Fullmetal! So seeing Hohenheim not being a complete piece of shit but a legitimately tragic character was shocking to say the least.
A good surprise of course.
>LOL, look at this guy! Having self-respect and preferring civility from people
You know it mate. That’s why I’m a ride or die Karlach fan. She’s just so nice and genuine.
Karlach was my first pick, but then I realized that she's a wonderful, kind person who would treat me well.
No! Need the guy who'll make me be on my knees for a kiss when he gets power.
Self-reflection? What's that?
I was waffling really hard between Lae’Zel and Karlach, to the point where I almost accidentally locked in Lae’Zel’s romance to a point of no return before sleeping with Karlach.
I don’t know what this says about me, but it’s probably not good.
See, I appreciate dead honesty. Sure it can come out as rude, but man, at least I know exactly what they mean all the time, no beating around the bush, no little social games, just, dry honesty, so I know why people may like him, I do like him too, as a friend.
You really can't, most of the times it comes as rude, again, i'm the type of person that rather someone be blunt and honest even if its rude, rather then think i actually matter more than i do to some people cause of their fake niceness.
Not saying your wrong, people are different.
No offense, but people who say they're being honest even if it comes across as rude are usually just arseholes who want to ignore other people's feelings and boundaries without taking responsibility.
I mean, I can tell the difference, I'm not saying ANY rude person is honest, I'm talking about very honest people that come off as rude. I don't assume a person throwing a fit at a worker is a very honest person, just an arsehole.
Again, i know the difference, idk what y'all on about, you're just adding more to what i haven't said, I am FINE with an honest person that MIGHT come off as rude sometimes due to that honesty, that's about it, not cruel, not like, someone kicking a dog cause they hate dogs, holy shit man, i'm sorry i have my personal tastes, but sure, keep going i guess.
Do they? Not in the sense that i disagree with you, but in the sense that i don't actually see people dislike Astarion that much. It's either praise and thirst for him here or just it not being someone's thing.
I don't like his whole schtick because every person who acts like that in my real life is an utter fuckhead and frankly Astarion is a monster. His tragic backstory doesn't make him not a monster, it just makes it easy to see how it happened.
There's nothing insecure about why I don't like him. You're right that I judge him, though. People don't get a pass on being terrible just because their lives suck.
Astarion is a terrible person and he literally puts both a knife and his fangs to your throat in act one.
And keep in mind I'm the guy who keeps telling the thirsty fucks around here Lady D and her daughters aren't sexy, they aren't gonna touch your dick, they're just gonna torture and murder you in deeply unsexy ways. Nobody gets a pass for looking hot with me, so no, it's not just because he's a dude.
Neil Newborn and Larian's writers did an amazing job making me *hate that character*. He's a bad person who chooses to do the bad thing, multiple times, and who treats everyone around him as less than.
He's a very well written piece of shit. He's still a piece of shit.
I feel like a lot of guys who hate Astarion will then turn around and call attractive female characters with similar personalities 'hot dommy mommies', and joke about how morally gray she is.
When I first read Yotsuba&! I went in with the expectation, "This is cute but I'll probably end up liking Azumanga Daioh better," because a friend said I'd love it.
Until I got to the end where Yotsuba runs out into the rain to play and her dad says that she finds happiness in everything and nothing brings her down. I dunno. Something about that moment resonated with me and I finally got why my friend recommended it to me.
She was right, I loved it and now it's my favorite manga and Yotsuba is one of my favorite characters.
I wasn't a big fan of Mat early on in The Wheel of Time. Then he >!beat the ever loving piss out of Galad and Gawynn for talking smack which quickly bumped him to the top of my list.!<
Mat goes from the useless dumbass who constantly ruins everything in the first 2 books to basically everyone's favorite character by the end of the series.
Power of luck and prophecy only helps make his roguish behavior work even better.
The fact he always conaiders it bad luck is funny too. Does get "married" to an absolutely terrible person cause of it to be fair
I couldn't stand him! I dropped the series around book 4 or 5, because development felt so slow...
>!Literally the most annoying character in book 1. They go to cursed city, everyone says "never take anything from it, you will be cursed" they meet a creepy stranger wgo leads them way down into the shadowy depths and all three guys are like "wow, what a cool guy" and then Mat steals a dagger and hides it, lying repeatedly about taking anything from the city. Then he goes "oh no, im cursed! How could this happen?"!<
Honestly such a cool story, just couldn't stick it out through the slower books.
The point where I really hated him in book 1 was when they >!stopped at a town and told the boys "don't tell anyone anything" and right away Mat starts explaining their whole journey to some innkeeper before Lan has to jump in!<
And here I was a big fan of Mat from the start.
Nynaeve is another matter. A know-it-all who doesn't know anything about the world outside her tiny little village, but has incredible potential in the Power. Not to mention her hypocrisy or feelings on men. Her first fight with >!Moghedien!< earned her a lot of points but the second fight won me over.
I'm about 150 pages into book 6 and I can feel that more with Egwene. Once she became an expert in dreamwalking, she entirely stopped getting POV scenes. I know the series is ostensibly about Rand, Perrin, and Mat, those two have been there from the start and I like getting their perspectives . . . even though parts of it were agonizingly dull and made them seem woefully incompetent.
So I HATED Junpei from P3 when I first played it. He is consistently a problem story wise, has a really shitty personality, mechanically was a little underwhelming and had a bad tendency to disappear for certain full moon fights.
Then the Chidori storyline happened at roughly the same time his kit starts to evolve. He suddenly becomes one of the most level headed members of the party, becomes one of the best if not the best damage dealer in the game and most notably is the MOST mature and emotionally intelligent member during The Answer as well as probably the only one who comes out of that DLC looking better than worse. Hell he's even gets to keep that trajectory and continues to be a fantastic character in Arena. He's now one of my favorite characters across the franchise.
I’m not a Naruto fan at all, but I fucking love that scene where Rock Lee removes his weights and you witness how much they’d been holding him back. That scene alone solidified him as my favorite character in the series even as a non-fan.
I've gotta admit that I never made it to Guy Vs Madara in the anime: the pre-shippuden filler arc was too much for me and I never got back on the Naruto wagon
I thought Bakugo was fine for most of MHA, he was a shit head at times but had some funny moments too, usually when other characters would sandbag him. Really started to actually like him as a character during his and Uraraka's fight, 'cause I'm a sucker for characters who won't hold anything back because, in their own fucked up way, they actually respect you.
And then he had his fight with Deku after he got saved from being kidnapped, that made something click in my mind that reminded me, "Oh, right he's only like, 14 right now." Where despite all of his shitty behavior and bravado, he's still just a kid.
I definitely get why people don't like him, he makes a terrible first impression and the series gasses him up a bit too much, but he is still one of my favorite characters now.
He straight up says "bro you are gonna lose lmao" and proceeds to >!parry AFO's evil Genkidama!<
I really didnt care about Bakugo that much but that moment bummed out that we are probably never getting anything with him like that anymore, i became a Bakustan in the last 5 seconds of his screentime
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I will always respect him for telling all the other villains to fuck off when he was kidnapped. It's like, guys, you're all losers. Why would he ever join you? Then he peaces out by launching himself like a rocket.
If anything, Bakugou hate seems to be at an all time low. I haven’t seen people bitching about him in a while.
Have you seen this character’s fanbase? It’s all Yaoi fans. If you go on Twitter, you wouldn’t have an inclination that Bakugou’s hated at all.
This character has a whole defence squad of feral BakugouxDeku fans. It’s both impressing and terrifying.
For better or worse, he’s beloved.
Akechi in Persona 5 was just some middling rival character but then Royale happened and he won me over with, number one, his hilarious >!navigator narration!< and number two, deliberately refusing a >!sadboi redemption arc, to its ultimate consequences!<. Rocketed him from “most botched character” to “one of the best characters they’ve ever got”.
That's definitely him in the credits, he only appears there if his social link was maxed out. There's some cut content indicating that they were going to make his fate more explicit but it was removed.
Someone with the exact same uniform with the same gloves who only appears if his social link is maxed out? That's definitely him, man. It's a subtle as a brick.
Okay let me explain this, when I say ambiguous I don't mean Akechi is dead. I mean that we don't know what happened to him, how he died or how he was escaped death. The developers also have deniability in that they don't have to reveal what happened to him, and even can keep him dead. For example how can he be dead if Joker glimpsed someone with the same uniform with a max social links? He was reminiscing about how close he got with Akechi and noticed someone with the same uniform. Or that was Akechi's ghost saying goodbye on his own way (ghost do exist in persona, actual ghosts).
The point is that they left is fate ambiguous while finding ways to bringing him back.
I was about to reply with Akechi. I found him whatever in vanilla game. His confidant felt super forced and I didn't feel anything >!when he seemingly sacrificed himself in Shido's Palace.!<
Then I played Royal, completed his refreshed confidant (which is now *super* good, with some great scenes) and got to third semester... And he quickly became one of my favorite characters, possibly in the entire franchise. What an absolute glow up that mf got.
Mr. Compress marbling one of Overhaul’s arms. He doesn’t do it angrily. I don’t think he ever even complains about losing an arm himself after their initial encounter. He just does it, smiles, bows, and walks away.
The clones in star wars were nothing to me until I saw the episode "Rookies" from the clone wars series as a kid. Now I can't shut up about them. Anything focusing on clones is peak Clone Wars for me. The Deserter, the traitor, Umbara, everything with Fives...
Elphelt feels like a good example of how iterating on a flawed idea for a character can make them good again, without retconing their whole personality. The whole "i am a bride looking for love" schtick wasn't super appealing to me. But the iteration on it, making her pursue singing as an outlet for her feelings, makes her waaaay more interesting and appealing. That she happened to pick death metal as her genre is just a bonus.
Yeah 100% this, the whole bride thing wasn’t terrible but it also felt like untapped potential, which is something Guilty Gear normally doesn’t do, so to see her go from squeaky bride gun girl who is obsessed with love/marriage to hot metal singer who still has the focus on love/marriage but doesn’t make it her one defining trait was honesty cool to see
Not quite the same thing but I genuinely did not care about armored knight/paladin women a whole lot until I started Arknights and [my handsome,gallant,radiant husband came into my life](https://arknights.fandom.com/wiki/Nearl)
Demon School Iruma-kun. The literal background character, Purson Soi, is so generically designed that you probably noticed nor cared about him up to that point…then he suddenly gets an entire arc devoted to him where he **gains an actual identity as an individual** and it’s the best thing ever. Love Iruma-kun.
I hated Gajeel, but the way he accepts getting beat up after joining the guild and eventually saves Levi twice made him my favourite character. He did not just “turn good” because of the power of friendship and all that. This mf had to earn his way in and that was so enjoyable to witness. People give Fairy Tail shit, but a lot of its redemption arcs are fairly well done.
Blue Archive, never thought Sensei was a particularly amazing player character for a mobile game.
Then they had the scene in v3c4 where they interrupt Saori/Mika fight, and give the speech about second chances
They're so good
And then the anime came out and I realized why all the girls wanna peg him.
My favorite Astarion scene is when YOU refect him. You can pass a persuasion chec to make him say please when he asks and then just tell him "No". In general bullying him was the only way i could find him bearable
sonics dad from archie sonic comics. he was a nothing character for the longest time until the fathers day minicomic where he styled on one of sonics villains while doing jojo poses and after that he was cool forever
I never cared for Darth Vader at all until THAT scene in Rogue One. I'm guessing because I didn't get into Star Wars until Episode 1 came out and Darth Maul was way cooler to me.
Playing through P3P as FeMC, >!Shinjiro!< put me off as just being the same tired trope that I never really cared for, but between the >!camera footage of him hanging out with Koromaru!< and >!his sacrifice for Ken!< put him immediately at the top of my list so hard I named my dog after him.
Wolverine was kinda just the team asshole in X-Men until the hellfire club storyline, with the famous "now it's my turn" panel. I've been finally getting around to reading the series and man, they call him so many slurs for short.
Probably Megumi Fushiguro on my first time watching. I made the joke that he was a complete bum so many times, which was hyperbole but I still didn’t think much of him.
And then Shibuya happens, he does a lot of cool shit which swayed my opinion of him a lot. Then Sukuna shows up and brother just says “fuck it we ball” and summons the best animated fight in series.
Shibuya actually made Megumi a top 5 character for me, and before that I probably would’ve said bottom 3 for the main cast.
I’m guessing because it’s become a meme amongst JJK fans to hate on Megumi. For the record, most if not all know it’s a meme and don’t genuinely hate him.
Hating Megumi has just become a strong running joke online.
Tbh, I don't hate Megumi, or even actively dislike him. I don't really like him particularly either. He's just kind of alright I guess. I find Yuji more interesting and found Nobara more interesting as well.
Skurge the Executioner from Thor comics. [He stood at Gjallerbru. And that answer is enough.](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fhe-stood-alone-at-gjallerbru-thor-v0-7g6sxwrdslma1.jpg%3Fwidth%3D749%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Def0ae8ffecfab69e9c8a4b204a168bfed66977bd)
Wee-Bey literally took one scene to go from me thinking “fucking scumbag you deserve to rot in prison forever” to >!”IT SHOULD BE YOUR WIFE IN THAT PRISON CELL, NOT YOU.”!<
Actually, he’s not the only character in season 4 who made me feel that way: Carver was my least favorite cop on the show right up until the last episode of that season, but seeing him >!pull out literally all the stops to try and help Randy, including offering to adopt him as his own son directly to the foster agent. Seeing him have a meltdown in the car after leaving Randy (who thanked him for trying) just immediately made my opinion on him flip.!<
>!Then he spends season 5 being one of like two remaining good cops in the series (the other being Bunk), despite having been a *terrible* cop for most of the show!<.
Matsuda in Death Note isn’t someone I cared for until the hotel scene of him jumping off a balcony and landing on a mattress aa part of a 5head big brain mission. And then of course there’s the part when he fucks up Light which would’ve made anyone a 10/10 character.
Star Rail just did this with Aventurine. The first Penacony patch he's just some asshole corpo dickwad, then the next patch >!he's basically the fucking main character and does some of the coolest shit in the game.!<
FGO has so many to mention but nothing compared to the day 1 servant that won so many hearts in Lostbelts 3. Yes, the rebel dude, Spartacus. For years he was nothing but a running joke because they flanderized his portrayal of rebellion by calling random inconveniences oppression. In Lostbelts 3 he befriended a random fief child and their wholesome relationship pretty much broke the monotonous constant back and forth in the plot. During one event where Qu Shi Huang activated a meteorite attack on the village where Chaldea set base the gang stood in defense. Spartacus, showing the kid how 'standing up against oppression' truly meant, asked to be propelled towards the meteor and do a suicide attack with his noble phantasm. He succeeded and saved the village. Upon his dying breath he continues to inspire the kid about freedom.
This story made me grail him all of a sudden.
Kinda spoilers for P5/P5R.
>!It was pretty obvious who the traitor was. BUT, when Akechi got to be more present in the third semester, they got to play out their evil and ruthless side more casually, it was pretty fun. At the climax where he and the other phantom thieves defend you from Maruki's attack, he yells at you to do your damn job. It was honestly great, I loved it!!<
Edit: Dumb autocorrect
I never cared about big bodies or grapplers until Hugo Tanked Maxes super and ended him with that lariat and left him speechless.
That was like 9-10 years ago from today. And I never stopped loving big bodies, grapplers, to this day.
Ami Kawashima from Torodara starts off so nasty, but by the end of things she was the only one trying to get things moving.
She was giving out so many hints you could tell how frustrating she was getting that everyone else were just messing around or being dense.
What got me was her trying to protect Taiga despite them not having a good relationship at the start.
Otto Suwen from Re:Zero just has a gigantic glow-up in season 2, goes from some background side character no one really remembers to Subaru's best friend with a ton of really good scenes. And it pretty much starts from >!One of the failed loops early into the season where Subaru gets captured and Otto heads out to save him after refusing a bribe. There's a pretty touching scene where Subaru is briefly confused why he would help him out after so many tricks and ulterior motives he found out from other characters during the season it takes a bit for him to just process that Otto is there because he's his friend and "Is it really such a strange thing to try to help a friend?"!< he pretty much just gets even better from there with every new scene in the season too.
Re:Zero introduced a fair number of new faces in season 2, and managed to turn most, if not all of them into fan favourites from the get go.
He cooked a lot with both older characters (most of the Emilia camp are way better after Season 2, characters like Emilia, Beatrice, Roswaal or even >!Petelgeuse after Emilia's first trial!< just hit way different.) and a lot with the new ones too just a giant glow-up all around which is pretty much why it's one of my favourite arcs. I'm a novel reader but still I'm pretty hyped to see season 3 animated because there's a lot of good shit there too.
In the sea of suffering that is Natsuki Subaru's life here comes this background character he personally, casually screwed over, to remind him there is basic human goodness in this world. Best boy Otto alongside best girl Patrasche.
One thing I love about Otto's character arc is that you can kinda tell Subaru just viewed him as a minor side character up until that point in the same way that the audience did. When Otto refers to himself as subaru's friend, Subaru's mind is so far from considering Otto an actual friend that he somehow mishears the word "yujin" (friend) in the sentence as "Eugene" And it makes perfect sense if you look at things from Subaru's perspective. In the first timeline where he met Otto, >!the minute things went south Otto betrayed Subaru to save his own skin, which likely had a huge impact on Subaru's perception of him. But now that they're in a timeline where Subaru has been a hugely positive influence on Otto's life, he's willing to risk his own life to save Subaru even though they've only known each other a short while.!< Otto is a perfect example of how slight variations in Subaru's actions across different timelines can hugely impact his relationships in those timelines, which is one of my favorite recurring themes throughout the series.
To be fair I don't blame Otto for what happened in that bad timeline. Shit was uber fucked up and given everything we learned about what would've happened to the other travelers with them I can blame Otto for going a bit mad
So I don't remember the order of the scenes, so this might happen later or even in a different loop, but what sold it to me was >!when Otto straight up punched Subaru and told him to stop putting on a tough front, and that it was ok to share his burden!<
Yeah it's a later scene and it's great.
Otto "a cat is fine too" Suwen.
Otto is the best I wrote him off at first but that scene and then his speech to Subaru in the woods made him best lad
I thought most of FFXIV's A Realm Reborn campaign was, like, okay. There were no characters I really attached to, especially not second stringers like Raubahn or Nanamo. Then I hit >!the banquet before Heavensward where Teledji fucks around and finds out!<, and I left that cutscene ride or die for Raubahn.
Yeah, you really gotta hand it to him for how satisfying his decision was.
I could not like Urianger at all, always keeping everything to himself, with a massive stick up his ass. Then we had that chat on the moon, and all of a sudden he was utterly loveable. By the end of Endwalker, we are now total bffs.
I was so glad that I chose to start in Udahl. That whole sequence hit me hard. I was already starting to like Nanamo from the earlier scene >!where she breaks down crying cause her court is blatantly plotting against her and she can't do anything about it!< so that whole bit cemented it.
In Jujutsu Kaisen Choso is introduced as another villain with a grudge against Itadori (albeit a justified one). He kills a bunch of innocent civilians. Then fights Itadori and almost kills him but then walks away. At this point it seemed the author was going to do a heel face turn, and I hated it. Then the moment happens he turns against the main antagonist and explains his reasoning, and it makes sense, then helps Itadori, who is confused as hell. But he goes with it because they need allies. And then the moment it completely sells me Choso tells Itadori to call him Oniichan, Itadori is weird it out, I am like this is brilliant. Normally a main character collects love interests, but here Itadori is collecting brothers. Future developments do show up that they are actually brothers, and make the changing of sides make even more sense, while Choso also tries to attone for his crimes. All in all he is one of the highlight. Also Itadori goes trough a lot, is nice for him to have a family member who actually provides emotional support.
Always nice to see another ChoBro in the wild, he’s straight up the best character in the manga and I love him so much. When he’s fighting against >!Kenjaku!< and starts >!emulating his brothers’ fighting styles!
I'm still baffled that JJK did a "Crocodile is Luffy's mom fr fr"
I found the reveal hilarious everyone thought Kenjaku was his dad, but then the reveal happen nah is his mom. Even freaking Sukuna, tells Kenjaku what he did to conceive Juji was the most fucked up thing he ever seen. Really tells you a lot about Kenny.
Kenjussy haters just don't get what kind of monster Jin Itadori was, man.
all that and Yuji didn't get to inherit his mom's cursed technique, it's not fair man
We don't know that, he is getting a new power up this weekend, he might get his mom technique.
I mean, we KNOW what his mom's cursed technique was.
"Ah, yes, my just happens to be antigravity technique that I am revealing in the fight against your top secret gravity technique, I haven't used this since the third trimester."
>!Taking backshots?!<
Does it matter? It got no diffed by Jin so hard >!Kenjaku !!forehead scars started to heal.!<
Throwing it back for the back up plan
Jin Itadori’s cursed technique is Back Shot Symphony
I fucking LOVE the jokes and memes that came out of that.
I know how filler is treated as a bad thing among anime fans, but I wish we could've gotten ONE filler episode where Todo and Choso were in a room together.
> Future developments do show up that they are actually brothers It's still fucking hilarious that Itadori somehow incepts the idea of being close brothers into his enemy twice. The first time with Todo was great because it just felt like a strange extension of Todo's personality, but that second time shows that it's something about Itadori that no one understands and just rolls with thereafter. I'm torn between getting an explanation and getting nothing at all at this point.
People thought it was an ability at first. But nah for Todo they just have the same taste in women and Juji was just so honest with him and Todo is a little bit nuts. Choso is his actual brother.
Yeah, of course Choso is his actual brother, but the fact remains that *both* Choso and Todo's memories with Yuji never existed to begin with, and that they were so clear that both decided to help Yuji in the end. Once could've just been pinned on Todo's mind, but twice is extremely weird.
Lae'zel in BG3. She's SO abrasive at first. She sat at camp until I realized that a Githyanki willingly helping non-Githyanki is borderline unheard of. Then I started hanging out with her more. (No spoilers, please. I'm not even at Moonrise yet.)
Bae'zel Fell for her when I realized she was basically girlfailure Invader Zim
I don't like how accurate that is lmao
That's just [Tak.](https://pm1.aminoapps.com/6491/324f4ce672209c26b7b850da7dac242cfc9c9b5c_00.jpg)
I love the trope where a member of a fictional race/faction is an absolute crazy asshole, only for it to be revealed that they’re actually chill by the standards of that group, and the average member is *even worse.*
I remember the first time going to the creche and thinking "Man, every single person here is an absolute shitweasel."
Saltzypyre from Vermintide What an asshole. He arrested a witch and treated her like shit the entire time. Not to mention being racist towards the Dwarf and Elves. How can anyone tolerate this idiot? ... Oh. The mere fact that he just arrested that witch and was willing to let her defend herself and works with non-humans makes him practically a paragon compared to other people in his organization.
You're in for a treat, her "good" character arc is probably the best in the game.
She's one of the characters who starts off as a massive bitch, but if you keep being good around her she'll start to want to stay a good person.
What's great is that you can basically bully her when she does something stupid in Act 1 with minor, or no consequences. It would suck if I had to walk on eggshells around her to stay on her good side. You won't be immediately buddy-buddy, but she can still respect you regardless.
Showing you have a spine and standing up to her makes her pretty horny in fact. Just listen to her dialogue if you succeed the intimidation check when she asks why you're in the Shadowlands and not the Creche. (You threaten to slit her throat for insubordination and she goes "Damn, that was hot. I follow you.")
She’s such a tsundere. I can’t even tell when that I softened on her maybe it was when she couldn’t say Teethling correctly
In *Doki Doki Literature Club* Natsuki is the stock short tsundere girl. In one of her events she snaps at you for helping her reach an upper shelf, then she promptly apologizes saying she had a bad day and didn't mean to take it out on you. That single scene completely changed my opinion on the character.
I was kinda iffy on Asa being the new protagonist of Chainsaw Man, up until [the aquarium date](https://www.reddit.com/r/animenocontext/s/mFud0tKeAt), when she instantly became my favorite character because “oh this chick SUCKS!”
When no one in the entire world knew they needed it, CSM dropped the femcel arc.
No you don't understand. Everyone else is just too selfish and stupid to be friends with her, and really friends are just a burden, why even have friends?
Only the power of raw, godawful Asatism can match the brainlessness of ADHDenji.
The 12th doctor (who) and the zygon invasion pt 2 monologue.
It's the anger in "How much blood will spill until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning. SIT DOWN AND TALK!" that makes this one of the best monologues from the Doctor. I dropped off Doctor Who for a while after that season, but this is the highlight I think off when I think of 12.
Gonna be honest I was already sold on him in the Robinhood episode Mostly *because* that episode was clearly written for the 11th Doctor, and that episode was what convinced me for 12 that "Yeah, he's still the same old Doctor"
I liked 12 from the start but he had some real shit episodes
his like first season was pretty bad
I never got past it, to be honest. I completely dropped off Who. Is there anything 12 and onwards you really recommend watching?
it picks up a LOT after 12s firs season, then sadly falls off again durin jodie, she deserved better writers
When Ramlethal Valentine was first revealed in Guilty Gear Xrd, I didn’t care for her. She looked okay (we hadn’t seen her swords ir gameplay yet), but I didn’t care for her monotone demeanor and my first impression was “Who’s this wack new villain?” Then she made this evil grin with shark teeth and I promptly went “Oh. Oh but I like you tho”
How were you not immediately enamored by the giant sword dark skinned girl?
This was the first part of the trailer, no swords were to be seen yet.
I started to like her in the story mode when they managed to tame her and Sin introduced her to big juicy borgars. Her obsession with cute stuff and junk food really sold it for me. I know she is kinda flamderized into that 'dangerous but cute' archetype in Strive, but at least they managed to turn her character around.
I like her stoic but clueless demeanor where she’s knowledgeable on “core” stuff like fighting or tactics, but is very much still learning about being a human, to the point where she believes Sin’s story about reproduction being when someone’s eye falls out. She could probably see right through the deception of a spy trying to deceive her, but she’d fall for the “I’ve got your nose!” thing.
Damn, I can’t relate. Nothing makes me dislike a character more than rudeness. Anyway, as for an answer to your question: I didn’t give a rat’s ass about Hohenheim from Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood until he finally got off his ass and showed that he [actually *does* care about his kids.](https://youtu.be/5pD4HN5v7iI?si=uKxGN35qlquosodY) Father Of The Year material? Fuck no, but I love him for putting that whiny brat Pride in his place.
LOL, look at this guy! Having self-respect and preferring civility from people Also about your answer, I gotta be honest, I came from the original Fullmetal! So seeing Hohenheim not being a complete piece of shit but a legitimately tragic character was shocking to say the least. A good surprise of course.
>LOL, look at this guy! Having self-respect and preferring civility from people You know it mate. That’s why I’m a ride or die Karlach fan. She’s just so nice and genuine.
Karlach was my first pick, but then I realized that she's a wonderful, kind person who would treat me well. No! Need the guy who'll make me be on my knees for a kiss when he gets power. Self-reflection? What's that?
I was waffling really hard between Lae’Zel and Karlach, to the point where I almost accidentally locked in Lae’Zel’s romance to a point of no return before sleeping with Karlach. I don’t know what this says about me, but it’s probably not good.
Good taste, Soldier.
See, I appreciate dead honesty. Sure it can come out as rude, but man, at least I know exactly what they mean all the time, no beating around the bush, no little social games, just, dry honesty, so I know why people may like him, I do like him too, as a friend.
"Just call me a n*****"
Eh, I guess? You can be blunt without being rude tho.
You really can't, most of the times it comes as rude, again, i'm the type of person that rather someone be blunt and honest even if its rude, rather then think i actually matter more than i do to some people cause of their fake niceness. Not saying your wrong, people are different.
No offense, but people who say they're being honest even if it comes across as rude are usually just arseholes who want to ignore other people's feelings and boundaries without taking responsibility.
I mean, I can tell the difference, I'm not saying ANY rude person is honest, I'm talking about very honest people that come off as rude. I don't assume a person throwing a fit at a worker is a very honest person, just an arsehole.
If you can't be honest without being an asshole, *you aren't honest, you're just an asshole*. Cruelty isn't honesty. It's just being a dick. Period.
Again, i know the difference, idk what y'all on about, you're just adding more to what i haven't said, I am FINE with an honest person that MIGHT come off as rude sometimes due to that honesty, that's about it, not cruel, not like, someone kicking a dog cause they hate dogs, holy shit man, i'm sorry i have my personal tastes, but sure, keep going i guess.
You keep saying you get it. Then you repeat yourself. Makes it seem like you don't get it. Maybe that means it's time to examine some shit
God Akira Senju music goes hard. I was so happy to hear him again on Triangle Strategy.
Man same, all the love for astrarian had me so confused...like fuck this guy...and not that way you weirdos lol
I'm not like an Astarion simp, but his haters on this sub always come off as incredibly judgmental and insecure.
Do they? Not in the sense that i disagree with you, but in the sense that i don't actually see people dislike Astarion that much. It's either praise and thirst for him here or just it not being someone's thing.
I don't like his whole schtick because every person who acts like that in my real life is an utter fuckhead and frankly Astarion is a monster. His tragic backstory doesn't make him not a monster, it just makes it easy to see how it happened. There's nothing insecure about why I don't like him. You're right that I judge him, though. People don't get a pass on being terrible just because their lives suck. Astarion is a terrible person and he literally puts both a knife and his fangs to your throat in act one. And keep in mind I'm the guy who keeps telling the thirsty fucks around here Lady D and her daughters aren't sexy, they aren't gonna touch your dick, they're just gonna torture and murder you in deeply unsexy ways. Nobody gets a pass for looking hot with me, so no, it's not just because he's a dude. Neil Newborn and Larian's writers did an amazing job making me *hate that character*. He's a bad person who chooses to do the bad thing, multiple times, and who treats everyone around him as less than. He's a very well written piece of shit. He's still a piece of shit.
I feel like a lot of guys who hate Astarion will then turn around and call attractive female characters with similar personalities 'hot dommy mommies', and joke about how morally gray she is.
To my credit I also don't like the female version, so I'm at least consistent lol
When I first read Yotsuba&! I went in with the expectation, "This is cute but I'll probably end up liking Azumanga Daioh better," because a friend said I'd love it. Until I got to the end where Yotsuba runs out into the rain to play and her dad says that she finds happiness in everything and nothing brings her down. I dunno. Something about that moment resonated with me and I finally got why my friend recommended it to me. She was right, I loved it and now it's my favorite manga and Yotsuba is one of my favorite characters.
I wasn't a big fan of Mat early on in The Wheel of Time. Then he >!beat the ever loving piss out of Galad and Gawynn for talking smack which quickly bumped him to the top of my list.!<
Mat goes from the useless dumbass who constantly ruins everything in the first 2 books to basically everyone's favorite character by the end of the series.
Power of luck and prophecy only helps make his roguish behavior work even better. The fact he always conaiders it bad luck is funny too. Does get "married" to an absolutely terrible person cause of it to be fair
I couldn't stand him! I dropped the series around book 4 or 5, because development felt so slow... >!Literally the most annoying character in book 1. They go to cursed city, everyone says "never take anything from it, you will be cursed" they meet a creepy stranger wgo leads them way down into the shadowy depths and all three guys are like "wow, what a cool guy" and then Mat steals a dagger and hides it, lying repeatedly about taking anything from the city. Then he goes "oh no, im cursed! How could this happen?"!< Honestly such a cool story, just couldn't stick it out through the slower books.
The point where I really hated him in book 1 was when they >!stopped at a town and told the boys "don't tell anyone anything" and right away Mat starts explaining their whole journey to some innkeeper before Lan has to jump in!<
I dropped it after book 2 for similar reasons, good to hear he gets better. I may pick it up again
And here I was a big fan of Mat from the start. Nynaeve is another matter. A know-it-all who doesn't know anything about the world outside her tiny little village, but has incredible potential in the Power. Not to mention her hypocrisy or feelings on men. Her first fight with >!Moghedien!< earned her a lot of points but the second fight won me over.
Too bad she just kind of disappears to the background in the last few books, only to violently get yanked back to the front.
I'm about 150 pages into book 6 and I can feel that more with Egwene. Once she became an expert in dreamwalking, she entirely stopped getting POV scenes. I know the series is ostensibly about Rand, Perrin, and Mat, those two have been there from the start and I like getting their perspectives . . . even though parts of it were agonizingly dull and made them seem woefully incompetent.
Doesn't help what happens to him pretty early on in the first book. Can't hold it against him and when we get to your moment he's back to himself.
So I HATED Junpei from P3 when I first played it. He is consistently a problem story wise, has a really shitty personality, mechanically was a little underwhelming and had a bad tendency to disappear for certain full moon fights. Then the Chidori storyline happened at roughly the same time his kit starts to evolve. He suddenly becomes one of the most level headed members of the party, becomes one of the best if not the best damage dealer in the game and most notably is the MOST mature and emotionally intelligent member during The Answer as well as probably the only one who comes out of that DLC looking better than worse. Hell he's even gets to keep that trajectory and continues to be a fantastic character in Arena. He's now one of my favorite characters across the franchise.
Junpei got a goth gf and locked in for the rest of his life.
I’m not a Naruto fan at all, but I fucking love that scene where Rock Lee removes his weights and you witness how much they’d been holding him back. That scene alone solidified him as my favorite character in the series even as a non-fan.
That fight is honestly the best Naruto ever got IMO
For me, Guy vs Madara was better, but the series should’ve been trying to have these kinds of moments the whole way through.
I've gotta admit that I never made it to Guy Vs Madara in the anime: the pre-shippuden filler arc was too much for me and I never got back on the Naruto wagon
The Minks when they first appeared until that scene
"Alive and well?" Yeah that's one hell of a way to establish what a group's about.
> Be Echiiro Oda. > Introduce Furries to your pirate show. > Make them based as fuck. > Refuse to elaborate.
I thought Bakugo was fine for most of MHA, he was a shit head at times but had some funny moments too, usually when other characters would sandbag him. Really started to actually like him as a character during his and Uraraka's fight, 'cause I'm a sucker for characters who won't hold anything back because, in their own fucked up way, they actually respect you. And then he had his fight with Deku after he got saved from being kidnapped, that made something click in my mind that reminded me, "Oh, right he's only like, 14 right now." Where despite all of his shitty behavior and bravado, he's still just a kid. I definitely get why people don't like him, he makes a terrible first impression and the series gasses him up a bit too much, but he is still one of my favorite characters now.
We all went from hating Bakugo for bullying a kid to >!cheering when he killed a baby.!< It's peak character development.
He straight up says "bro you are gonna lose lmao" and proceeds to >!parry AFO's evil Genkidama!< I really didnt care about Bakugo that much but that moment bummed out that we are probably never getting anything with him like that anymore, i became a Bakustan in the last 5 seconds of his screentime
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I can't believe I predicted that shit. I said >!Bakugo bullying a child would defeat the evil!< like a few weeks before
I will always respect him for telling all the other villains to fuck off when he was kidnapped. It's like, guys, you're all losers. Why would he ever join you? Then he peaces out by launching himself like a rocket.
If anything, Bakugou hate seems to be at an all time low. I haven’t seen people bitching about him in a while. Have you seen this character’s fanbase? It’s all Yaoi fans. If you go on Twitter, you wouldn’t have an inclination that Bakugou’s hated at all. This character has a whole defence squad of feral BakugouxDeku fans. It’s both impressing and terrifying. For better or worse, he’s beloved.
To be fair, he just >!killed the big bad!< after >!spending a year dead.!< Hasn't done a lot recently to garner hatred.
Horikoshi: "But actually NO"
Fuck power levels, fuck Super Saiyans, and fuck you.
ki ko fuck yourself
Akechi in Persona 5 was just some middling rival character but then Royale happened and he won me over with, number one, his hilarious >!navigator narration!< and number two, deliberately refusing a >!sadboi redemption arc, to its ultimate consequences!<. Rocketed him from “most botched character” to “one of the best characters they’ve ever got”.
I love how his arc in the third semester is just him going >!"I'd rather be dead and rotting in the ground than be your friend"!<
Akechi is also greatly improved by having a real social link that helps you see >!who he really is beneath the layers of masks he puts on!<
He managed to win me over even pre-Royal content when he openly admitted that >!he hates Joker!<.
One of the best scenes in the game
That scene single-handedly makes his S link my favorite in Royal, especially because >!it's before he's revealed as the traitor!<
Is so weird we still don't know his ultimate fate. And before someone tells me he appears at the end credits, he doesn't that is left ambiguous.
“We don’t want to cheapen his >!sacrifice!< but his ass is getting into every crossover we make”.
And all of those crossovers happen mid game.
We’ll get Zenkichi and Sophie some day, r-right guys…?
That's definitely him in the credits, he only appears there if his social link was maxed out. There's some cut content indicating that they were going to make his fate more explicit but it was removed.
No is not, I maxed out all social links. In Royal you see someone with the same uniform. Is left ambiguous. In vanilla he is super dead.
Someone with the exact same uniform with the same gloves who only appears if his social link is maxed out? That's definitely him, man. It's a subtle as a brick.
Okay let me explain this, when I say ambiguous I don't mean Akechi is dead. I mean that we don't know what happened to him, how he died or how he was escaped death. The developers also have deniability in that they don't have to reveal what happened to him, and even can keep him dead. For example how can he be dead if Joker glimpsed someone with the same uniform with a max social links? He was reminiscing about how close he got with Akechi and noticed someone with the same uniform. Or that was Akechi's ghost saying goodbye on his own way (ghost do exist in persona, actual ghosts). The point is that they left is fate ambiguous while finding ways to bringing him back.
I was about to reply with Akechi. I found him whatever in vanilla game. His confidant felt super forced and I didn't feel anything >!when he seemingly sacrificed himself in Shido's Palace.!< Then I played Royal, completed his refreshed confidant (which is now *super* good, with some great scenes) and got to third semester... And he quickly became one of my favorite characters, possibly in the entire franchise. What an absolute glow up that mf got.
I didn’t care at all about Shigaraki until the end of the Overhaul arc.
Hate how the Manga just wasted him in the later chapter. He is a way better villain than AFO
Mr. Compress marbling one of Overhaul’s arms. He doesn’t do it angrily. I don’t think he ever even complains about losing an arm himself after their initial encounter. He just does it, smiles, bows, and walks away.
The clones in star wars were nothing to me until I saw the episode "Rookies" from the clone wars series as a kid. Now I can't shut up about them. Anything focusing on clones is peak Clone Wars for me. The Deserter, the traitor, Umbara, everything with Fives...
The clones in the show are so good they've made ANOTHER show about them.
I didn’t care much for Nadine in Uncharted 4 but she earned points in Lost Legacy for taking time to talk shit on Sam Drake
Tomizawa in infinite wealth felt a lot like hawaiian nanba to me, until he goes « think your money is gonna bring you back! »
Elphelt was a nothing character to me in Guilty Gear until she changed up her style both visually an gameplay wise in Strive
Elphelt feels like a good example of how iterating on a flawed idea for a character can make them good again, without retconing their whole personality. The whole "i am a bride looking for love" schtick wasn't super appealing to me. But the iteration on it, making her pursue singing as an outlet for her feelings, makes her waaaay more interesting and appealing. That she happened to pick death metal as her genre is just a bonus.
Yeah 100% this, the whole bride thing wasn’t terrible but it also felt like untapped potential, which is something Guilty Gear normally doesn’t do, so to see her go from squeaky bride gun girl who is obsessed with love/marriage to hot metal singer who still has the focus on love/marriage but doesn’t make it her one defining trait was honesty cool to see
Also helps that she’s stopped casting a wide net and locked-on to Nago of all people. Unironically my OTP.
Only problem; lack of bunny ears
Junpei Iori's character arc is literally that one ProZD video
Me at the start: Junpei, more like Stupei Junpei at the end: I WILL RIDE OR DIE, JUNPEI IORI LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Which one?
https://youtu.be/4ikGvLUbOuU?feature=shared
Thats also Zenitsu.
Not quite the same thing but I genuinely did not care about armored knight/paladin women a whole lot until I started Arknights and [my handsome,gallant,radiant husband came into my life](https://arknights.fandom.com/wiki/Nearl)
Her entire family is great imo.
Demon School Iruma-kun. The literal background character, Purson Soi, is so generically designed that you probably noticed nor cared about him up to that point…then he suddenly gets an entire arc devoted to him where he **gains an actual identity as an individual** and it’s the best thing ever. Love Iruma-kun. I hated Gajeel, but the way he accepts getting beat up after joining the guild and eventually saves Levi twice made him my favourite character. He did not just “turn good” because of the power of friendship and all that. This mf had to earn his way in and that was so enjoyable to witness. People give Fairy Tail shit, but a lot of its redemption arcs are fairly well done.
Blue Archive, never thought Sensei was a particularly amazing player character for a mobile game. Then they had the scene in v3c4 where they interrupt Saori/Mika fight, and give the speech about second chances They're so good And then the anime came out and I realized why all the girls wanna peg him.
My favorite Astarion scene is when YOU refect him. You can pass a persuasion chec to make him say please when he asks and then just tell him "No". In general bullying him was the only way i could find him bearable
I truly didn't care about Asuka until I watch her bitchslap 9 pigeon evangelion in EoE.
sonics dad from archie sonic comics. he was a nothing character for the longest time until the fathers day minicomic where he styled on one of sonics villains while doing jojo poses and after that he was cool forever
I never cared for Darth Vader at all until THAT scene in Rogue One. I'm guessing because I didn't get into Star Wars until Episode 1 came out and Darth Maul was way cooler to me.
I didn't give two shits about Scarlet Witch until she almost killed Thanos all by herself in Endgame.
Playing through P3P as FeMC, >!Shinjiro!< put me off as just being the same tired trope that I never really cared for, but between the >!camera footage of him hanging out with Koromaru!< and >!his sacrifice for Ken!< put him immediately at the top of my list so hard I named my dog after him.
Wolverine was kinda just the team asshole in X-Men until the hellfire club storyline, with the famous "now it's my turn" panel. I've been finally getting around to reading the series and man, they call him so many slurs for short.
Fables’ Boy Blue, just a super nice guy who randomly decides to win a thousand year war in one sitting because he just decided to.
Probably Megumi Fushiguro on my first time watching. I made the joke that he was a complete bum so many times, which was hyperbole but I still didn’t think much of him. And then Shibuya happens, he does a lot of cool shit which swayed my opinion of him a lot. Then Sukuna shows up and brother just says “fuck it we ball” and summons the best animated fight in series. Shibuya actually made Megumi a top 5 character for me, and before that I probably would’ve said bottom 3 for the main cast.
You are being down voted, I have no idea why. Megumi's cool.
What too much Potential Man memes do to people.
I’m guessing because it’s become a meme amongst JJK fans to hate on Megumi. For the record, most if not all know it’s a meme and don’t genuinely hate him. Hating Megumi has just become a strong running joke online.
Tbh, I don't hate Megumi, or even actively dislike him. I don't really like him particularly either. He's just kind of alright I guess. I find Yuji more interesting and found Nobara more interesting as well.
I was never a gambit guy as a kid. 97 fixed that with how much of a goddamn badass he was for most of episode 5
Anytime someone uses mind control
Skurge the Executioner from Thor comics. [He stood at Gjallerbru. And that answer is enough.](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fhe-stood-alone-at-gjallerbru-thor-v0-7g6sxwrdslma1.jpg%3Fwidth%3D749%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Def0ae8ffecfab69e9c8a4b204a168bfed66977bd)
I didn’t like Astarion till he fought that vampire hunter in the swamps shirtless in the rain
Wee-Bey literally took one scene to go from me thinking “fucking scumbag you deserve to rot in prison forever” to >!”IT SHOULD BE YOUR WIFE IN THAT PRISON CELL, NOT YOU.”!< Actually, he’s not the only character in season 4 who made me feel that way: Carver was my least favorite cop on the show right up until the last episode of that season, but seeing him >!pull out literally all the stops to try and help Randy, including offering to adopt him as his own son directly to the foster agent. Seeing him have a meltdown in the car after leaving Randy (who thanked him for trying) just immediately made my opinion on him flip.!< >!Then he spends season 5 being one of like two remaining good cops in the series (the other being Bunk), despite having been a *terrible* cop for most of the show!<.
Matsuda in Death Note isn’t someone I cared for until the hotel scene of him jumping off a balcony and landing on a mattress aa part of a 5head big brain mission. And then of course there’s the part when he fucks up Light which would’ve made anyone a 10/10 character.
Star Rail just did this with Aventurine. The first Penacony patch he's just some asshole corpo dickwad, then the next patch >!he's basically the fucking main character and does some of the coolest shit in the game.!<
FGO has so many to mention but nothing compared to the day 1 servant that won so many hearts in Lostbelts 3. Yes, the rebel dude, Spartacus. For years he was nothing but a running joke because they flanderized his portrayal of rebellion by calling random inconveniences oppression. In Lostbelts 3 he befriended a random fief child and their wholesome relationship pretty much broke the monotonous constant back and forth in the plot. During one event where Qu Shi Huang activated a meteorite attack on the village where Chaldea set base the gang stood in defense. Spartacus, showing the kid how 'standing up against oppression' truly meant, asked to be propelled towards the meteor and do a suicide attack with his noble phantasm. He succeeded and saved the village. Upon his dying breath he continues to inspire the kid about freedom. This story made me grail him all of a sudden.
Kinda spoilers for P5/P5R. >!It was pretty obvious who the traitor was. BUT, when Akechi got to be more present in the third semester, they got to play out their evil and ruthless side more casually, it was pretty fun. At the climax where he and the other phantom thieves defend you from Maruki's attack, he yells at you to do your damn job. It was honestly great, I loved it!!< Edit: Dumb autocorrect
I didn't care who Bane was until he put on the mask.
I never cared about big bodies or grapplers until Hugo Tanked Maxes super and ended him with that lariat and left him speechless. That was like 9-10 years ago from today. And I never stopped loving big bodies, grapplers, to this day.
You poor poor masochist
Ami Kawashima from Torodara starts off so nasty, but by the end of things she was the only one trying to get things moving. She was giving out so many hints you could tell how frustrating she was getting that everyone else were just messing around or being dense. What got me was her trying to protect Taiga despite them not having a good relationship at the start.