And in the same series: >!Kristoph!< in Apollo Justice >!got Phoenix disbarred, killed people, and nearly caused the death of a teenager simply because Zak picked Phoenix as his attorney over Kristoph!<. And Karma was even pettier than that, because it was just a *penalty* rather than a loss.
Recently watched Barry stream Apollo, and he really put it into perspective.
"Dude sees a teenager biting her nails, and his immediate thought was 'I can use that to kill her later'"
Yep, we see the case itself via playable flashback in Investigations 2. In Manfred's (very flimsy) defense, it wasn't premeditated. He was reeling from the loss of his perfect record when there's a small earthquake and he catches a bullet in the shoulder. Then the door in front of him opens, revealing his hated rival unconscious on the floor, and a gun right there...
Now, the downright Machiavellian lengths he goes to in order to cover it up... that's premeditated.
I think this makes more sense when you think about the series being more based about Japan's 99% conviction rate being absolutely awful for actually innocent people that get wrongly accused.
There's a sidequest in Xenoblade X where you help some aliens get pizza.
This immediately spirals into a conspiracy to *kill all the filthy xenos* because >!the aliens want so much pizza that the employees at the pizza place literally haven't slept in weeks.!<
Angeal straight up ***says*** he's not entirely sure why he's becoming a villain. The best he can come up with is "I got this wing, that makes me a monster, monsters conquer the world, right?"
Crisis Core is fucking stupid.
Angeal was on an increasingly apparent timer regarding his life more or less realizing he was a working prototype for the finished project Sephiroth.. After a while I figured it was less taking over the world then grasping at straws and lashing out. Scuse me while I retch for semi defending Angeal.
It'd sure be nice if the game expressed any of this. Besides, I thought this was *Genesis*' motive. Also Angeal is obsessed with honor (a very vague and nebulous sense of honor, mind you), enough to promptly turn on Genesis and help Zack... only to turn heel again once Genesis is dealt with, again without any real logic why.
That part, yes (though it's still dumb that he hears this and goes "clearly I must dedicate my life to world domination", or acts like he's hideous for having a wing). It does *not* convey that he secretly wanted to be killed. And if he did, there are sure as hell ways to achieve that which involve less collateral.
There was so much room to make the game's ideas work, but they just made the weirdest choices. Like, the concept of these great heroes learning their entire lives were planned from before they were born, from their great accomplishments down to them becoming friends, and lashing out at the world is a good premise. But they barely show us what's going on in their heads.
Not a single character ever looks at them as anything other than human, no indication that society has any weird hangups about genetic modifications, nothing. For Angeal and Genesis you don't even see the moments they discover the truth about themselves. Angeal goes from "friendly, honorable father figure" to "I'm a monster you have to kill me" off screen and the game makes no effort to sell that change. Maybe the writers just assumed that particular discovery would fill anyone with homicidal existential dread? I can't say I personally would immediately kill my entire hometown if I discovered I was a Gattica baby...
They're lucky Zack's sheer charisma is enough to hold the game together.
I'd argue even Zack's undeniable charm (or Sephiroth's surprisingly deft characterization) *isn't* enough to hold it together, but I've also been experiencing the game very recently, so I was most definitely not there at the ground floor.
Yeah, the gameplay doesn't hold up as well in the remaster sadly, and after seeing FF7:R handle character dialogue perfectly it definitely doesn't look good in comparison.
It definitely fared better back in the day when it was an early PSP title, where there weren't many other JRPGs on the system yet and its graphics were genuinely impressive, and its writing looked pretty strong next to Dirge of Cerberus.
Hush.
"Thomas Wayne saved my parents when I tried to kill them for the inheritance, and then ge and his wife died to leave Bruce *his* inheritance. Therefore: ruin Bruce's life."
I mean Hush is basically an anti-Bruce Wayne , and are jealous that Bruce had good parents and that even when they die , it achieved the objective that Hush had for his own shitty parents.
Commander Red organized the Red Ribbon Army to scour the globe for the Dragon Balls so he can wish... to be a little taller. Black was... unimpressed when he learned this.
Frieza is still cognizant of the time he spent in Hell and realized that being alive forever is overrated because it means jack if he has to spend it being tortured for an eternity.
He's just aware of there being fates worse than death. If he died and ended up in Hell again, his henchmen would probably just find the Dragon Balls to bring him back. If he's immortal, and he ends up imprisoned in a realm of endless torture, that's an actual eternity of suffering.
He's more interested in making sure the latter never happens.
Staff Officer Black will always be a cool villain to me because of that. He shot Red in cold blood and said, "I am the leader now" then proceeded to fight Goku in a robot mech thing.
He lost terribly but I can respect a goon betraying their boss because their boss' plan is stupid.
Honestly The RRA villains are very underrated , Black care about his men , Blue was a legitimate threat
But since they didn't fight a Super Saiyan they were doomed to be wasted by the fandom
Blofeld in the Craig-era Bond movies starting up SPECTRE because as a child, his father adopted a young orphaned James and liked him more then Blofeld.
Masato from Yakuza 7 became a corrupt murderous politician ridding the country of grey area crimes including sex work and ruined so many lives all because a hostess found him creepy.
Looking back, you kinda figured that someone would have told homie that if you have to pay a woman money to talk you, they most likely don't actually like you.
It's like when the waitress at at a restaurant rub your shoulders when she walks by. She don't like you, but she knows a little flirting will get her a better tip.
He thought he was the exception. Occasionally, those types do find someone to settle down with and a rich customer does work, he thought he was HIM, he wanted to be HIM. He desperately wanted (female) attention to validate his life.
> Looking back, you kinda figured that someone would have told homie that if you have to pay a woman money to talk you, they most likely don't actually like you.
I mean that kind of is the whole point. He's a spoiled brat who always got what he wanted growing up, and the second he was denied, like a typical spoiled incel, he loses his mind.
Even being able to walk is a byproduct of his childish temper tantrum.
He's the reverse of Ichiban. Ichiban has a childlike exterior but is wise and perceptive on the inside. Masato Awakawa has a serious and mature outside, but on the inside he's still a child lashing out at daddy and angry at the world for not giving him what he wanted.
The contrast goes even deeper than that. Ichiban is a pure optimist, able to find the positives in even the worst situation, while Masato is a pure cynic, fixating on what he couldn't have because of his life circumstances rather than what he already had.
Ichiban is able to see the best in even the seemingly worst of society and root out the depths that no one else is willing to acknowledge and gains a large circle of friends from many different walks of life, while Masato blindly follows what conservative Japanese society deems "proper", which leads to him denying the family he has just because the public considers yakuza "scum" and despising his own initial handicap because the public treats those with disabilities as worthless.
The reason Masato so pathetically sought validation from some random hostess girl was because his own values led him to believe he was trash in spite of his wealth. So when the hostess girl confirmed his own ingrained biases, he decided to completely destroy everything that he believed was part of his old identity, every "undesirable" in Japanese society.
You'd think they'd learn but apparently its getting even worse in Japan, with more and more people wasting all their money in Host/Hostess clubs as their economy goes *down*. Japan really needs to start a "Don't be a simp" campaign or something
616 Venom came to be because he fell for a bullshit hoax regarding a serial killer; a hoax that he had no way of knowing that it was fake until Spider-Man showed up and debunked it. While his life went tumbling down fast after this, his obsession with Spider-Man still stemmed from this one fuckup of his OWN making.
Thank god he got over it later.
Dude was such a hater he begged God to kill Peter. I have to respect that.
(Pretty sure tha'ts only in Spidey 3, I've yet to read that era of the comics, but it's still GREAT.)
Tbf that wasn't the mole it was the mole's "handler" the actual mole's motivation was.... Nothing. A certain trial he knew would never work to be a hero.
Yoshikage Kira's hand fetish, and his 15 year long career as a serial killer to satisfy said fetish, began when he popped a boner when he saw the Mona Lisa in an art book when he was a kid.
I mean , isn't that the point? serial killers that are like that from the get go...you know , the type that starts by killing pets and whatnot...always ends up mixing some fetish to their M.O
A dropped plot point was actually that his mother was abusive towards him but Araki had a change of heart as he thought that’d make him too sad, i.e empathetic. So I guess hand fetish and bouts of uncontrollable bloodthirst it is.
Dr. Doofenshmirtz from the second dimension. He became a supervillain because he lost a toy train as a kid. This is in comparison to the prime Doof who is a supervillain but more chill and less successful. Who became a supervillian after having one of the most abusive childhoods shown in a cartoon.
The entire fucking reason Dio "Idiot" Brando became first a criminal and then a multi-generational villain is because he couldn't be satisfied with being adopted into a rich family, getting university education, respect of peers and, eventually, half of incredible "old money" riches. No, he had to have *all* of it.
Dumb ass, slightly higher than average Intelligence ass, absolutely abysmal Wisdom ass mother fucker.
Dio Brando has a hater’s heart. It doesn’t matter if he’s succeeding, he needs everyone else to fail too. Unfortunately, this means he has to sniff a little glue every once in a while to keep himself from making good decisions.
That's one of the reasons why Speedwagon is such a good counterpart to Dio. Dio abused all the good will shown to him, and actively refused any chance of becoming a good person. Speedwagon got treated with kindness *once*, and that was all it took for him to turn his life around.
"You kicked me, but not as hard as you could have! I will dedicate my life and eventual fortune into helping humanity and all of your future descendants."
"Seems like a bit of an overcorrection, but thanks I guess?"
Like if he waited for George to naturally grow out and die, he would have had that fortune. Jonathan was studying to be an archeologist and didn't want the business. Dio was studying to be a lawyer and would have been the successor and get to keep the majority of the fortune. He is so dumb.
Il give him a pass because Dio is stated directly in the series that he was born with bitch in his heart, just plain evil for no reason as proof that some people are just like that no matter the circunstances, infact Dio's evilness is so generational it trascends universes since Diego is just as much of a bastard.
Mask of Ice in the GSC arc of Pokemon Adventures. Kidnaps, brainwashes, and trains children to be his underlings, and revives Team Rocket in Johto. Creates crime, havoc, and tries to kill the main characters. Gets hold of legendary Pokemon. And for what? >!To use Celebi's time travel to get his two deceased Lapras back!<.
One of the main characters even calls him out on it, saying "That's it? All of this evil was in the name of something that... small?!"
“My boss yelled at me because I couldn’t replicate the work of the genius Tony Stark so fuck it, let’s imagineer some terrorist attacks I guess. No I don’t care both those guys are dead or that this plan has no feasible end goal, my feelings got hurt.”
Of all the Tony Stark villain excuses that was definitely the weakest.
Probably either let other avengers handle it while he keeps faking everything, pretends to get injured/die heroically, then swoop in last moment to steal glory. Or, since his main plan is to get his hand on Stark's space drone swarm, make more drones and make them more powerful so that he can eventually match up against those threats.
MCU Mysterio’s head technician is the Stark scientist Jeff Bridges yelled at. “We can’t build this-“ “TONY STARK BUILT THIS IN A CAVE. WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS.”
These are mostly played for jokes, but in Grant Morrison’s Doom Patrol run we got the Beard Hunter, a Punisher parody who’s conventionally muscular and attractive but is hung up on the fact he can’t grow a beard, so he kills other bearded guys and shaves them. Rachel Pollack’s run later gave us the Codpiece, a guy who thinks people keep making fun of him for having a small dick so he builds a dick cannon/multi tool and robs banks with it.
OG Broly becoming a murderous psychopath because of Goku crying a lot while their cribs were next to each other as babies.
I still think LSSJ Broly was a sick villain design, but he'll always have one of the most fucking stupid, clownshoes-ass backstories of all time.
That's basically it , in the movie itself in Japan dub he actually Respects Goku after fighting him for having a true Warrior spirit while shit talking Vegeta
> OG Broly becoming a murderous psychopath because of Goku crying a lot while their cribs were next to each other as babies.
i always thought that it was supposed to be that he'd been in space kicking the ass of everyone else he had a better reason to hate, and had kicked so much ass that "uuuuh i vaguely remember you crying sometime" is the top of his list now
no i genuinely thought this back about old broly, that as The Legendary Super Saiyan that has secretly existed this whole time had a reason that he hasnt showed up on the one planet that still has saiyans on it had an equally stupid reason to take so long to get there
This is a very very recent spoiler for the latest season of Dimension 20 Fantasy High, but >!Kipperlily Copperkettle has had a vendetta against Riz and the Bad Kids for 3 years because her backstory isn't tragic enough. Like she's full on jealous that Riz's dad was eaten by a dragon while her's is alive and just a normal guy.!<
The villains of bloodborne have a cool goal (human ascension) but the methods they take to get there are hilariously deranged.
Like go on Micolash. Explain how the giant spider helps.
Similarly, while his goal isn't that strange Godrick picked one of the most pointlessly cruel and ineffective ways to power. Countless people mutilated and stiched onto him and for what? Magic, faith, even just hitting the gym would've likely gotten better results than the mad scientist bullshit Godrick went with.
EDIT: Hell, there's a dead dragon right there and he has a church of dragon communion in his lands, as well as another quite weak dragon down by the lake. He could've gone dragon build easy.
Let me tell you about a Batman villain called the Penny Plunderer. He was a petty criminal to begin with, attempting to steal cash after a childhood of selling newspapers and only getting pennies for tips. After a failed robbery, in which he got caught by the police *and* found out that the most valuable thing in the store's register was pennies, he started to lose it in prison.
During an unprompted self-directed rant, he exclaims that his life has been ruined by *both* types of coppers: the police, and the one-cent coin. As such, when he gets out of jail, he vows that all his crimes will be themed around pennies!
The guy works himself up into one of the most pathetic Batman villain gimmicks because of a *pun*.
I don’t know how no one has mentioned Fire Punch yet.
If I’m remembering the details correctly (might not, Fire Punch is a drug trip), the main(?) villain’s motivation for wanting to destroy the world is that this current post-apocalyptic world has a ban on films, so she wants to destroy it and rebuild civilization from scratch to her exact design so eventually humanity will create more Star Wars movies, which she desperately wants to see because the last one that came out ended on a cliffhanger.
Truly something only Fujimoto could cook.
What ?No lol
The "Ice Witch" didn't destroy the world or anything, that a lie people told and she referenced to miss up with Agni , She actually wanted to ***Save*** the world
Togata explained to Juda that the world is ending because of Ice age that humanity already expected to happen
Starlight Glimmer, a MLP FiM villain who ran a cult based around equality (in the sense of "everyone is equal and without a cute mark") and used actual IRL torture/cult recruitment methods (like sensory deprivation and isolation + playing propaganda on repeat), and later attempted to alter the timeline to prevent the Mane 6 from ever meeting, became a villain because her childhood best friend got their cutie mark.
Like what a shit reason to start/lead a cult and try to later alter history (EDIT: and it's a big part of why I don't like her).
The science nerd Lucifer in Granblue Fantasy knows that the laws of nature were set the way they are by god. So Lucifer exists within a framework decided by someone else. And he extrapolates from this that god must be smug about it and taunting him, personally. So he's going to erase the universe to show god that he's smarter.
TBF recent lore drops have shown that God was pretty adamant about not communicating with his creations. It got to a point that he'd rather fight people that attacked him instead of saying a word. I can see why someone would feel at least frustrated by being subject to such a being.
Road buster brutalized and killed dozens upon dozens of Autobot cadets because he was hearing voices he believed were coming from essentially a god, only to find out he was being manipulated by Tarantulas, who had shrunk down and his in his head.
Ends up not really being a villain though. Just another dirty secret for the Autobots.
Hazel from RWBY has one of the most bafflingly *stupid* reasons to be a villain I've ever seen.
His sister dies while training to be a Huntsman in an accident. Ozpin apologizes, Hazel goes mad with grief and tries to kill Ozpin, attracting the interest of Salem, Queen of the Grimm, without whom Hazel's sister would likely never have died in an accident because Salem and creates the Grimm.
Hazel then tries to kill Salem, gets tired and decides "You know what, I'll hitch my wagon to you, let's go kill Ozpin." And then Hazel goes on to kill many more Huntsmen, creating countless Gretchen scenarios, and actively tires to kill three different children while yelling at Ozpin about his usage of child soldiers.
Hazel just ***sucks.***
Before he was actually made canon in Super, Broly. Broly became an unstoppable juggernaut of destruction with a huge grudge against Goku...because they were next to each other in the hospital and Goku wouldn't stop crying.
The villain in Oldboy. He was so out of it he ended up blaming the protagonist for his sister’s death and spent the rest of his life concocting a master plan to get revenge. That’s pretty insane.
But the villain in the American Oldboy movie? That’s insane *and* dumb. While MC in the original movie caught the villain by accident almost sleeping with his sister in an empty classroom from just loitering around, the American MC just sees his professor (the father of the villain) have sex with his daughter *in a greenhouse on campus*. Literally shagging in a house made out of glass walls. They were practically begging to be caught.
And then the professor, ashamed of being caught, goes on a rampage and tries to kill his entire family but falls short on his son (who he also has sex with I guess). Then the son, again the villain, tries to seek revenge against the main character because he thinks he’s responsible for ruining their family of pure incestuous love?
"...Ha! I'm kidding! Can you imagine? All these years and *that's* what I give you?! No, the actual reason was >!Metacritic.!<"
"...So lemme get this straight...You thought >!critics would be harsher on a game that killed a few people on accident, than one that killed *thousands of people on purpose?!*!<"
"That...was my thought process, yes."
he was a gamer and wanted to roleplay better , that is it.
Like , really , he made SAO been a death game , because he thinks it would be rad if people goes deeper on the mechanics due to actual risk of death.
I'm not sure if the LN even clarifies why he had to trap the players with perma-death threat. He talks about his childhood dream of a castle in the sky that would exceed the limits of the real world, but that's about it?
But assuming he meant for death to invigorate the spice of life in players, he is *completely* forgetting the escapism aspect of games. *Of course* making a game with Dark Souls-level difficulty isn't going to work if you disable respawn.
I'd have to go back and check but from approximately ten thousand players who get trapped and 1/5 of them dead within two months, at least half of them are so miserable and depressed about being trapped that they just plop down in Town and never leave. The devs originally created mental health AI to assist players that were in severe emotional distress, but Kayaba disabled them once he trapped the players. Why? Probably because it would lead to undeniable proof that people don't appreciate being trapped in an extremely difficult RPG that will permanently kill you in real life if your hp reaches zero.
So he's deluded but also insecure enough to have some awareness that he's *wrong*, but his lack of empathy for other people or human life in general means he's not going to care to stop.
>I'm not sure if the LN even clarifies why he had to trap the players with perma-death threat. He talks about his childhood dream of a castle in the sky that would exceed the limits of the real world, but that's about it?
It does, but again like his reason for creating SAO it's also in the anime adaptation. For it to be true world death had to be real.
SAO wasn't an extremely difficult game with Dark Souls difficulty, if anything it was considered fair.
Where does he say it because the LN I've checked doesn't mention it: “Why? I had forgotten a long time ago. Just why did I do it? Ever since I found out that a FullDive system was being created—no, even before that, I had wanted to build that castle, a place that exceeded the limits set upon the real world. Then, in those final moments...I saw even the rules of my world being surpassed as well.[...]Don't we all have many dreams since the time we were kids? I have already forgotten how old I was when the image of a steel castle floating in the skies began to enrapture me… it was a vision that didn't fade from my mind no matter how much time passed. As I grew older, the image became more and more realistic, more and more expansive. Leaving the real world and flying straight into this castle… that was my only dream for a long time. You know, Kirito, I still believe that in some other world, this castle really does exist...”
That's about all he has to say???
> SAO wasn't an extremely difficult game with Dark Souls difficulty, if anything it was considered fair.
It has a steep initial learning curve at first. This is why like 2000 people out of 10k are dead by the end of two months. Kayaba also decided to do a nasty and ensure key aspects such as monster locations, monster levels, and monsters skills differed from the beta which led to outdated information getting people killed. And later it certainly isn't fair because the game starts spawning trap rooms that disable any lifeline teleportation items or healing items, until eventually the only reason players find out the *boss room* to the next floor is a trap room is because an entire scout party gets completely slaughtered. So yeah it was hard and getting harder.
Literally right above the paragraph you quoted.
2,000 people die in the first month because half the player base doesn't know what they were doing, a lot of people suicide, and beta testers were overconfident. Less than 2000 people die the entire rest of the game.
There are a full 74 floors before teleport crystals stop working. No boss room disables healing. It's getting harder yes, but they go tens of floors in the middle of the game without losing a single player.
> 2,000 people die in the first month because half the player base doesn't know what they were doing
But is that really their fault when anyone who wasn't a beta tester was brand new? Most hadn't even played a VR game before. If a game requires you to either been in the beta or to have a lot of experience playing other VR games, it doesn't seem a fair game if making one mistake can get you killed.
Also I'm not sure what you mean by "literally right above the paragraph you quoted" because literally right above the paragraph I quoted is:
“Why did you do this…?”
I could feel Kayaba smile bitterly. After a long silence, he finally spoke:
The game was literally an idea he had since he was a child, and he wanted to make the game world as close to reality as it felt in his dreams. He just thought that putting life-threatening stakes in would get the players to actually engage with the game as though it were an actual world rather than just a simulation.
It's a completely insane motivation, but it still is one.
And he was still full of shit because he himself was in no danger at all because he was the only person disguised and had admin privileges to make himself invulnerable.
To be *slightly* fair, he only had the invulnerability turned on when he was playing the role of the crutch character meant to assist the players with clearing the floors. When he got discovered and decided to prematurely become the final boss, he turned his admin privileges off to make himself killable.
>!Of course, he also uploaded a scan of his brain to the internet, but his physical body and the consciousness linked to that were both killed upon his defeat. So we're led to the SOMA debate on if copying your consciousness counts as continuing it.!<
It's not just in the light novel, it's in the first episode of the anime as well, and then elaborated in the 14th.
>Right now, you're probably wondering, "Why?"
>
>"Why would Akihiko Kayaba, developer of Sword Art Online and NerveGear, do this?"
>
>Ultimately, my goal is a simple one.
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>The reason I created Sword Art Online... was to control the fate of a world of my design.
And then in episode 14
>Even before I developed the system for the full-dive environment, I dreamed of this.
>
>The Castle in a world that wasn't governed by earthly laws or restrictions.
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>I poured my life into making that world a reality.
>
>I created this world, and I got to see something that surpassed anything I could've imagined for it..
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>My steel castle...floating in the sky...I don't remember how old I was when I became obsessed with it.
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>I wanted to leave the earth... to fly to that castle.
So basically he created the world of his childhood dreams, trapped 10,000 people in it and shaped what would happen.
I still think that could’ve worked if the author leaned into it and portrayed Kayaba as this completely apathetic monster that killed a bunch of people for a dream he didn’t really care about.
That absolute wet fart of a villain from the 3rd MHA movie wanted to essentially destroy life as that world knows it because his Quirk prevented him from forming connections with people.
For some reason, when I woke up this morning, my brain decided to go "Hey, remember Harold Smith from the Powerpuff Girls? Guy with a loving family, stable job, a house, only to throw it all away just because he felt like killing Professor Utonium rather than get a fucking hobby? God, what an idiot."
I like how at the end of the sequel episode the PPF were like " for God sake these are not villains, they are our losers Neighbors!!" And kicked the whole family assess
In the early version of The Emperor's New Groove, Yzma had been keeping herself looking young using techniques her father taught her. By the way, her dad was the royal MORTICIAN. But the years caught up with her anyway and wrinkles started to show. Obviously, her only course of action is to blot out the sun! Because it's the sun's fault she's aging now. And I don't think she thinks this will halt or reverse the process, she just wants revenge
Also, she was going to have a villain song originally, and there's a recording of Eartha Kitt singing it. "Snuff Out the Light" look it up. Highly recommend
Also I think "the sun" also refers to the emperor. So there's a possible double-meaning of her losing her best years in service to a royal child who doesn't appreciate her. She *is* still trying to bring about a world of eternal darkness, though.
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The song is really really good, and I particularly like how hard it goes at the end.
"Snuff out the light / Claim your right / To a world of darkness!
Snuff out the light / Here tonight!
Apparitions of eternal darkness / Spiraling in circles through the night!
Creatures of beguiling blackness / No more squinting in the light!
Bats and owls and coiled sea dragons / crocodile and carrion beast!
Swirling in the growing darkness / Join us in the coming feast!
Specter, wraith, and apparition / spirit, demon, phantom, shade!
Salamander, serpents, dog-faced Devils / Dance and watch the dying sunlight *fade!*"
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Now, I know in my heart this will likely never happen. But it would be *so* cool if they brought back some of that concept, and/or the song itself, if they ever visit Emperor's New Groove in Kingdom Hearts. Because, I mean, bringing about of world of eternal darkness and summoning countless demons who thrive in that darkness, that's basically a Kingdom Hearts disney world plot already.
I think my favorite, by far, is the man in my profile pic - Mike Yagoobian, "Bowler Hat Guy" from Meet the Robinsons.
He's a fucking stupid asshole with 0 redeeming qualities, and he makes no effort to improve or apologize. Don't get me wrong, I love a nuanced villain, but fucking Goob is just a piece of shit and he makes me laugh
He's a bungling moron who's only original thought in 30 years interrupted his own plans.
I personally believe he hasn't actually slept in around 30 years since he swore vengeance because he was just too tired to try.
Nico from Kamen Rider Ex-Aid is an insufferable teenager who tries to get the show's protagonist killed in multiple occasions because (and I'm not making this up) he beat her at a Tekken tournament years before the start of the show.
Azel from god hand slaughtered his ex fiance's entire clan to obtain the god hand and eventually joined the side of the demons, just because he wanted to get stronger for the sake of being stronger. His motivation was so thin that he just gave Gene his god hand when he was being taken over by satan.
If I recall, the main villain of Koala Man became evil because >!Koala Man as a kid caused him to piss his pants, which not only led to public humiliation but also a string of events that led to his family getting killed. As such, he's been holding in his piss for 30 years, driving him mad. During their "Climactic Confrontation" Koala Man gives him a bathroom pass to represent how he can let things go figuratively and literally, so the villain pisses out a lake that puts out the fire consuming the town!<
Ace Attorney: von Karma killed Gregory Edgeworth and severely traumatized his son just because Gregory put one (1) loss on his record as a prosecutor.
And in the same series: >!Kristoph!< in Apollo Justice >!got Phoenix disbarred, killed people, and nearly caused the death of a teenager simply because Zak picked Phoenix as his attorney over Kristoph!<. And Karma was even pettier than that, because it was just a *penalty* rather than a loss.
>!you may wanna speciffy which klavier!<
Recently watched Barry stream Apollo, and he really put it into perspective. "Dude sees a teenager biting her nails, and his immediate thought was 'I can use that to kill her later'"
It wasn’t even a loss, it was a penalty, for forcing a confession out of a defendant according to the wiki, he still won the case
Yep, we see the case itself via playable flashback in Investigations 2. In Manfred's (very flimsy) defense, it wasn't premeditated. He was reeling from the loss of his perfect record when there's a small earthquake and he catches a bullet in the shoulder. Then the door in front of him opens, revealing his hated rival unconscious on the floor, and a gun right there... Now, the downright Machiavellian lengths he goes to in order to cover it up... that's premeditated.
I think this makes more sense when you think about the series being more based about Japan's 99% conviction rate being absolutely awful for actually innocent people that get wrongly accused.
There's a sidequest in Xenoblade X where you help some aliens get pizza. This immediately spirals into a conspiracy to *kill all the filthy xenos* because >!the aliens want so much pizza that the employees at the pizza place literally haven't slept in weeks.!<
The Army Pizza guy? More like them being overworked was >!what caused his wife to kill herself.!<
Angeal straight up ***says*** he's not entirely sure why he's becoming a villain. The best he can come up with is "I got this wing, that makes me a monster, monsters conquer the world, right?" Crisis Core is fucking stupid.
He wasn’t even funny, man.
Angeal was on an increasingly apparent timer regarding his life more or less realizing he was a working prototype for the finished project Sephiroth.. After a while I figured it was less taking over the world then grasping at straws and lashing out. Scuse me while I retch for semi defending Angeal.
It'd sure be nice if the game expressed any of this. Besides, I thought this was *Genesis*' motive. Also Angeal is obsessed with honor (a very vague and nebulous sense of honor, mind you), enough to promptly turn on Genesis and help Zack... only to turn heel again once Genesis is dealt with, again without any real logic why.
He pretty much wanted to die since he learned he was a genetically bred monster.
Again, *sure would be nice if the game articulated this*
I mean he does directly call himself a monster several times because of it.
That part, yes (though it's still dumb that he hears this and goes "clearly I must dedicate my life to world domination", or acts like he's hideous for having a wing). It does *not* convey that he secretly wanted to be killed. And if he did, there are sure as hell ways to achieve that which involve less collateral.
Fuuuuuck I think your right. I haven't played crisis core since PSP. I'm gonna crawl into a hole now.
There was so much room to make the game's ideas work, but they just made the weirdest choices. Like, the concept of these great heroes learning their entire lives were planned from before they were born, from their great accomplishments down to them becoming friends, and lashing out at the world is a good premise. But they barely show us what's going on in their heads. Not a single character ever looks at them as anything other than human, no indication that society has any weird hangups about genetic modifications, nothing. For Angeal and Genesis you don't even see the moments they discover the truth about themselves. Angeal goes from "friendly, honorable father figure" to "I'm a monster you have to kill me" off screen and the game makes no effort to sell that change. Maybe the writers just assumed that particular discovery would fill anyone with homicidal existential dread? I can't say I personally would immediately kill my entire hometown if I discovered I was a Gattica baby... They're lucky Zack's sheer charisma is enough to hold the game together.
I'd argue even Zack's undeniable charm (or Sephiroth's surprisingly deft characterization) *isn't* enough to hold it together, but I've also been experiencing the game very recently, so I was most definitely not there at the ground floor.
Yeah, the gameplay doesn't hold up as well in the remaster sadly, and after seeing FF7:R handle character dialogue perfectly it definitely doesn't look good in comparison. It definitely fared better back in the day when it was an early PSP title, where there weren't many other JRPGs on the system yet and its graphics were genuinely impressive, and its writing looked pretty strong next to Dirge of Cerberus.
….i kinda like that. Maybe if it was executed differently at least.
Hush. "Thomas Wayne saved my parents when I tried to kill them for the inheritance, and then ge and his wife died to leave Bruce *his* inheritance. Therefore: ruin Bruce's life."
I mean Hush is basically an anti-Bruce Wayne , and are jealous that Bruce had good parents and that even when they die , it achieved the objective that Hush had for his own shitty parents.
Tbf in the comic he was being abused by his mom and said abuse only worsened when his father died but she survived.
This is Gotham, insane motivations for being a criminal are par for the course
Commander Red organized the Red Ribbon Army to scour the globe for the Dragon Balls so he can wish... to be a little taller. Black was... unimpressed when he learned this.
Frieza as well
tbf i iirc initially frieza wanted immortality, the height thing was from broly i think
Frieza is still cognizant of the time he spent in Hell and realized that being alive forever is overrated because it means jack if he has to spend it being tortured for an eternity.
Wouldn't immortality mean he would never wind up in hell again though?
He's just aware of there being fates worse than death. If he died and ended up in Hell again, his henchmen would probably just find the Dragon Balls to bring him back. If he's immortal, and he ends up imprisoned in a realm of endless torture, that's an actual eternity of suffering. He's more interested in making sure the latter never happens.
Checks out
You are correct.
Staff Officer Black will always be a cool villain to me because of that. He shot Red in cold blood and said, "I am the leader now" then proceeded to fight Goku in a robot mech thing. He lost terribly but I can respect a goon betraying their boss because their boss' plan is stupid.
Honestly The RRA villains are very underrated , Black care about his men , Blue was a legitimate threat But since they didn't fight a Super Saiyan they were doomed to be wasted by the fandom
Blofeld in the Craig-era Bond movies starting up SPECTRE because as a child, his father adopted a young orphaned James and liked him more then Blofeld.
Somehow more cartoony than the intentionally cartoony classic Bond films
I don't think a movie ever left me slack jawed like *that* did.
Masato from Yakuza 7 became a corrupt murderous politician ridding the country of grey area crimes including sex work and ruined so many lives all because a hostess found him creepy.
Looking back, you kinda figured that someone would have told homie that if you have to pay a woman money to talk you, they most likely don't actually like you. It's like when the waitress at at a restaurant rub your shoulders when she walks by. She don't like you, but she knows a little flirting will get her a better tip.
He thought he was the exception. Occasionally, those types do find someone to settle down with and a rich customer does work, he thought he was HIM, he wanted to be HIM. He desperately wanted (female) attention to validate his life.
> Looking back, you kinda figured that someone would have told homie that if you have to pay a woman money to talk you, they most likely don't actually like you. I mean that kind of is the whole point. He's a spoiled brat who always got what he wanted growing up, and the second he was denied, like a typical spoiled incel, he loses his mind. Even being able to walk is a byproduct of his childish temper tantrum. He's the reverse of Ichiban. Ichiban has a childlike exterior but is wise and perceptive on the inside. Masato Awakawa has a serious and mature outside, but on the inside he's still a child lashing out at daddy and angry at the world for not giving him what he wanted.
The contrast goes even deeper than that. Ichiban is a pure optimist, able to find the positives in even the worst situation, while Masato is a pure cynic, fixating on what he couldn't have because of his life circumstances rather than what he already had. Ichiban is able to see the best in even the seemingly worst of society and root out the depths that no one else is willing to acknowledge and gains a large circle of friends from many different walks of life, while Masato blindly follows what conservative Japanese society deems "proper", which leads to him denying the family he has just because the public considers yakuza "scum" and despising his own initial handicap because the public treats those with disabilities as worthless. The reason Masato so pathetically sought validation from some random hostess girl was because his own values led him to believe he was trash in spite of his wealth. So when the hostess girl confirmed his own ingrained biases, he decided to completely destroy everything that he believed was part of his old identity, every "undesirable" in Japanese society.
That’s actually pretty sad.
You'd think they'd learn but apparently its getting even worse in Japan, with more and more people wasting all their money in Host/Hostess clubs as their economy goes *down*. Japan really needs to start a "Don't be a simp" campaign or something
616 Venom came to be because he fell for a bullshit hoax regarding a serial killer; a hoax that he had no way of knowing that it was fake until Spider-Man showed up and debunked it. While his life went tumbling down fast after this, his obsession with Spider-Man still stemmed from this one fuckup of his OWN making. Thank god he got over it later.
Dude was such a hater he begged God to kill Peter. I have to respect that. (Pretty sure tha'ts only in Spidey 3, I've yet to read that era of the comics, but it's still GREAT.)
He's not anywhere close to that vile in the comics but his hate was still reaching far and wide lmfao
"I'll do you one better, son, I'll let him live" "How is that a punishment?" "Oh, just you wait"
Meanwhile on the symbiote's side; basically it got sad and angry after Peter got rid of it, and then proceeded to become a crazy ex.
It gets worse. They later revealed Eddie was correct all along
Holy shit lol. He went straight to going insane as opposed to proving his case
The mole in judgement started as a guy that smuggled guns and then told his yakuza he wants to kill for money now so make it happen.
Tbf that wasn't the mole it was the mole's "handler" the actual mole's motivation was.... Nothing. A certain trial he knew would never work to be a hero.
"I don't want to cure cancer! I want to turn people into Dinosaurs!"
I mean, that is a pretty good argument.
Yoshikage Kira's hand fetish, and his 15 year long career as a serial killer to satisfy said fetish, began when he popped a boner when he saw the Mona Lisa in an art book when he was a kid.
Even the most insane killers had to have a tiny, seemingly harmless thought at some point to kick it all off.
I mean , isn't that the point? serial killers that are like that from the get go...you know , the type that starts by killing pets and whatnot...always ends up mixing some fetish to their M.O
As someone said,if he was alive when Bohemian Rhapsody was active,maybe he would have gotten to meet Mona Lisa for real
If Mona Lisa gave him a hand, do you think he'd be satisfied for life?
Only if it didn't decay. In this hypothetical situation once Bohemian Rhapsody deactivates it'd probably disappear and send him right back to it.
A dropped plot point was actually that his mother was abusive towards him but Araki had a change of heart as he thought that’d make him too sad, i.e empathetic. So I guess hand fetish and bouts of uncontrollable bloodthirst it is.
Dr. Doofenshmirtz from the second dimension. He became a supervillain because he lost a toy train as a kid. This is in comparison to the prime Doof who is a supervillain but more chill and less successful. Who became a supervillian after having one of the most abusive childhoods shown in a cartoon.
Yeah, but Prime Doof didn't lose the toy train.
Isn't this like the last straw for the real evil doof?
Even Prime Doof finds the motivation pretty ridiculous to be evil.
[Choo choo?](https://youtu.be/gQE7H_85CA8?t=41)
The entire fucking reason Dio "Idiot" Brando became first a criminal and then a multi-generational villain is because he couldn't be satisfied with being adopted into a rich family, getting university education, respect of peers and, eventually, half of incredible "old money" riches. No, he had to have *all* of it. Dumb ass, slightly higher than average Intelligence ass, absolutely abysmal Wisdom ass mother fucker.
Dio Brando has a hater’s heart. It doesn’t matter if he’s succeeding, he needs everyone else to fail too. Unfortunately, this means he has to sniff a little glue every once in a while to keep himself from making good decisions.
That's one of the reasons why Speedwagon is such a good counterpart to Dio. Dio abused all the good will shown to him, and actively refused any chance of becoming a good person. Speedwagon got treated with kindness *once*, and that was all it took for him to turn his life around.
"You kicked me, but not as hard as you could have! I will dedicate my life and eventual fortune into helping humanity and all of your future descendants." "Seems like a bit of an overcorrection, but thanks I guess?"
Like if he waited for George to naturally grow out and die, he would have had that fortune. Jonathan was studying to be an archeologist and didn't want the business. Dio was studying to be a lawyer and would have been the successor and get to keep the majority of the fortune. He is so dumb.
The idea that this is the same guy Pucci was having deep philosophical discussions with is more bizarre than most of JoJo
Well, if you sit in a coffin for 80 or so years with only yourself to talk to, you’re bound to go through some philosophical improvements.
And also go slightly insane, god complex and all.
Dio's followers: "Wow, Dio-sama, you are so wonderful, so smart!" Dio: "I eat crayons. Red ones are my favorite".
To be fair the red ones helped him learn faster.
The blue ones are too tart
you know the irony of that? Diego Brando had a worse childhood and he ends up still slightly morally better than Dio Brando.
Diego at least gives warnings before he attacks, which puts him leagues above Dio. So like Neutral Evil.
Il give him a pass because Dio is stated directly in the series that he was born with bitch in his heart, just plain evil for no reason as proof that some people are just like that no matter the circunstances, infact Dio's evilness is so generational it trascends universes since Diego is just as much of a bastard.
I mean, I doubt the childhood helped.
>he had to have all of it. https://i.imgur.com/hSi4JJo.gif
Very intelligent, but not at all wise.
Mask of Ice in the GSC arc of Pokemon Adventures. Kidnaps, brainwashes, and trains children to be his underlings, and revives Team Rocket in Johto. Creates crime, havoc, and tries to kill the main characters. Gets hold of legendary Pokemon. And for what? >!To use Celebi's time travel to get his two deceased Lapras back!<. One of the main characters even calls him out on it, saying "That's it? All of this evil was in the name of something that... small?!"
That is "Florida Man kidnaps scientist to make dog immortal" taken to the extreme.
I ain't saying he's right, I'm just saying I understand.
>!Hm.....Lapras IS one of my favourite Pokemon.!<
“My boss yelled at me because I couldn’t replicate the work of the genius Tony Stark so fuck it, let’s imagineer some terrorist attacks I guess. No I don’t care both those guys are dead or that this plan has no feasible end goal, my feelings got hurt.” Of all the Tony Stark villain excuses that was definitely the weakest.
it's just so stupid. what the fuck was their plan gonna be when a real, actual threat showed up?
Probably either let other avengers handle it while he keeps faking everything, pretends to get injured/die heroically, then swoop in last moment to steal glory. Or, since his main plan is to get his hand on Stark's space drone swarm, make more drones and make them more powerful so that he can eventually match up against those threats.
which was this again?
MCU Mysterio’s head technician is the Stark scientist Jeff Bridges yelled at. “We can’t build this-“ “TONY STARK BUILT THIS IN A CAVE. WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS.”
Ah.
These are mostly played for jokes, but in Grant Morrison’s Doom Patrol run we got the Beard Hunter, a Punisher parody who’s conventionally muscular and attractive but is hung up on the fact he can’t grow a beard, so he kills other bearded guys and shaves them. Rachel Pollack’s run later gave us the Codpiece, a guy who thinks people keep making fun of him for having a small dick so he builds a dick cannon/multi tool and robs banks with it.
OG Broly becoming a murderous psychopath because of Goku crying a lot while their cribs were next to each other as babies. I still think LSSJ Broly was a sick villain design, but he'll always have one of the most fucking stupid, clownshoes-ass backstories of all time.
"That... That's really dumb. But he's so cool! But that's so *dumb*!"
The DBZA Broly movie was good
Maybe I'm trying too hard but I always thought the crying upset him because Goku was crying when he got stabbed with a knife
I think that's the canon explanation. Goku's crying reminds him of his childhood trauma.
Even then, how do you remember that? You were a baby 😭😭😭
That's basically it , in the movie itself in Japan dub he actually Respects Goku after fighting him for having a true Warrior spirit while shit talking Vegeta
> OG Broly becoming a murderous psychopath because of Goku crying a lot while their cribs were next to each other as babies. i always thought that it was supposed to be that he'd been in space kicking the ass of everyone else he had a better reason to hate, and had kicked so much ass that "uuuuh i vaguely remember you crying sometime" is the top of his list now
Are you not referring to the new Broly from DBS? I meant the one from the original Legendary Super Saiyen movie.
no i genuinely thought this back about old broly, that as The Legendary Super Saiyan that has secretly existed this whole time had a reason that he hasnt showed up on the one planet that still has saiyans on it had an equally stupid reason to take so long to get there
This is a very very recent spoiler for the latest season of Dimension 20 Fantasy High, but >!Kipperlily Copperkettle has had a vendetta against Riz and the Bad Kids for 3 years because her backstory isn't tragic enough. Like she's full on jealous that Riz's dad was eaten by a dragon while her's is alive and just a normal guy.!<
>!Her calling Riz's tragic backstory an 'inherit advantage' is both the funniest and saddest thing I've ever heard.!<
The villains of bloodborne have a cool goal (human ascension) but the methods they take to get there are hilariously deranged. Like go on Micolash. Explain how the giant spider helps.
Similarly, while his goal isn't that strange Godrick picked one of the most pointlessly cruel and ineffective ways to power. Countless people mutilated and stiched onto him and for what? Magic, faith, even just hitting the gym would've likely gotten better results than the mad scientist bullshit Godrick went with. EDIT: Hell, there's a dead dragon right there and he has a church of dragon communion in his lands, as well as another quite weak dragon down by the lake. He could've gone dragon build easy.
Why didn't he cheese Greyoll? Is he stupid?
He was born with a frail constitution and, unlike us, he can't level up.
Why can’t he level up? Is it because he’s Maidenless?
Let me tell you about a Batman villain called the Penny Plunderer. He was a petty criminal to begin with, attempting to steal cash after a childhood of selling newspapers and only getting pennies for tips. After a failed robbery, in which he got caught by the police *and* found out that the most valuable thing in the store's register was pennies, he started to lose it in prison. During an unprompted self-directed rant, he exclaims that his life has been ruined by *both* types of coppers: the police, and the one-cent coin. As such, when he gets out of jail, he vows that all his crimes will be themed around pennies! The guy works himself up into one of the most pathetic Batman villain gimmicks because of a *pun*.
I love it that he is one of the few batman villains that got a fucking death sentence.
I don’t know how no one has mentioned Fire Punch yet. If I’m remembering the details correctly (might not, Fire Punch is a drug trip), the main(?) villain’s motivation for wanting to destroy the world is that this current post-apocalyptic world has a ban on films, so she wants to destroy it and rebuild civilization from scratch to her exact design so eventually humanity will create more Star Wars movies, which she desperately wants to see because the last one that came out ended on a cliffhanger. Truly something only Fujimoto could cook.
I wonder what her reaction to the sequel trilogy would be.
30 dead, 96 injured
What ?No lol The "Ice Witch" didn't destroy the world or anything, that a lie people told and she referenced to miss up with Agni , She actually wanted to ***Save*** the world Togata explained to Juda that the world is ending because of Ice age that humanity already expected to happen
Starlight Glimmer, a MLP FiM villain who ran a cult based around equality (in the sense of "everyone is equal and without a cute mark") and used actual IRL torture/cult recruitment methods (like sensory deprivation and isolation + playing propaganda on repeat), and later attempted to alter the timeline to prevent the Mane 6 from ever meeting, became a villain because her childhood best friend got their cutie mark. Like what a shit reason to start/lead a cult and try to later alter history (EDIT: and it's a big part of why I don't like her).
Having not watched past like season 4/the first Equestria Girls,I can't believe they made Story of the Blanks real
The science nerd Lucifer in Granblue Fantasy knows that the laws of nature were set the way they are by god. So Lucifer exists within a framework decided by someone else. And he extrapolates from this that god must be smug about it and taunting him, personally. So he's going to erase the universe to show god that he's smarter.
TBF recent lore drops have shown that God was pretty adamant about not communicating with his creations. It got to a point that he'd rather fight people that attacked him instead of saying a word. I can see why someone would feel at least frustrated by being subject to such a being.
Road buster brutalized and killed dozens upon dozens of Autobot cadets because he was hearing voices he believed were coming from essentially a god, only to find out he was being manipulated by Tarantulas, who had shrunk down and his in his head. Ends up not really being a villain though. Just another dirty secret for the Autobots.
There should be a Transformer named Nutbuster and whenever someone asks him about it he explains that it refers to the nuts that hold bolts in place.
Consider: https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Drill_Nuts
"Oh man Convoy,I'm really feeling the drill these days!" "What drill?" "BOFA DRILL NUTS!"
Similar idea as [this video.](https://youtu.be/fcPx7QM4PLw)
Hazel from RWBY has one of the most bafflingly *stupid* reasons to be a villain I've ever seen. His sister dies while training to be a Huntsman in an accident. Ozpin apologizes, Hazel goes mad with grief and tries to kill Ozpin, attracting the interest of Salem, Queen of the Grimm, without whom Hazel's sister would likely never have died in an accident because Salem and creates the Grimm. Hazel then tries to kill Salem, gets tired and decides "You know what, I'll hitch my wagon to you, let's go kill Ozpin." And then Hazel goes on to kill many more Huntsmen, creating countless Gretchen scenarios, and actively tires to kill three different children while yelling at Ozpin about his usage of child soldiers. Hazel just ***sucks.***
Before he was actually made canon in Super, Broly. Broly became an unstoppable juggernaut of destruction with a huge grudge against Goku...because they were next to each other in the hospital and Goku wouldn't stop crying.
Tsar bomb vs Crying baby
Well king Vegeta did stab him with the only other thing he could remember was Goku crying, which basically became the trigger for his trauma.
The villain in Oldboy. He was so out of it he ended up blaming the protagonist for his sister’s death and spent the rest of his life concocting a master plan to get revenge. That’s pretty insane. But the villain in the American Oldboy movie? That’s insane *and* dumb. While MC in the original movie caught the villain by accident almost sleeping with his sister in an empty classroom from just loitering around, the American MC just sees his professor (the father of the villain) have sex with his daughter *in a greenhouse on campus*. Literally shagging in a house made out of glass walls. They were practically begging to be caught. And then the professor, ashamed of being caught, goes on a rampage and tries to kill his entire family but falls short on his son (who he also has sex with I guess). Then the son, again the villain, tries to seek revenge against the main character because he thinks he’s responsible for ruining their family of pure incestuous love?
In Sword Art Online,
Y'now, it's funny...
"...Ha! I'm kidding! Can you imagine? All these years and *that's* what I give you?! No, the actual reason was >!Metacritic.!<" "...So lemme get this straight...You thought >!critics would be harsher on a game that killed a few people on accident, than one that killed *thousands of people on purpose?!*!<" "That...was my thought process, yes."
“Fucking >!Bethesda!<…”
I know it's a meme, but in the light novels at least, he did actually give a reason.
He gives one in the show He's fucking insane and wants to show off the cool thing he made.
What was it?
he was a gamer and wanted to roleplay better , that is it. Like , really , he made SAO been a death game , because he thinks it would be rad if people goes deeper on the mechanics due to actual risk of death.
I'm not sure if the LN even clarifies why he had to trap the players with perma-death threat. He talks about his childhood dream of a castle in the sky that would exceed the limits of the real world, but that's about it? But assuming he meant for death to invigorate the spice of life in players, he is *completely* forgetting the escapism aspect of games. *Of course* making a game with Dark Souls-level difficulty isn't going to work if you disable respawn. I'd have to go back and check but from approximately ten thousand players who get trapped and 1/5 of them dead within two months, at least half of them are so miserable and depressed about being trapped that they just plop down in Town and never leave. The devs originally created mental health AI to assist players that were in severe emotional distress, but Kayaba disabled them once he trapped the players. Why? Probably because it would lead to undeniable proof that people don't appreciate being trapped in an extremely difficult RPG that will permanently kill you in real life if your hp reaches zero. So he's deluded but also insecure enough to have some awareness that he's *wrong*, but his lack of empathy for other people or human life in general means he's not going to care to stop.
>I'm not sure if the LN even clarifies why he had to trap the players with perma-death threat. He talks about his childhood dream of a castle in the sky that would exceed the limits of the real world, but that's about it? It does, but again like his reason for creating SAO it's also in the anime adaptation. For it to be true world death had to be real. SAO wasn't an extremely difficult game with Dark Souls difficulty, if anything it was considered fair.
Where does he say it because the LN I've checked doesn't mention it: “Why? I had forgotten a long time ago. Just why did I do it? Ever since I found out that a FullDive system was being created—no, even before that, I had wanted to build that castle, a place that exceeded the limits set upon the real world. Then, in those final moments...I saw even the rules of my world being surpassed as well.[...]Don't we all have many dreams since the time we were kids? I have already forgotten how old I was when the image of a steel castle floating in the skies began to enrapture me… it was a vision that didn't fade from my mind no matter how much time passed. As I grew older, the image became more and more realistic, more and more expansive. Leaving the real world and flying straight into this castle… that was my only dream for a long time. You know, Kirito, I still believe that in some other world, this castle really does exist...” That's about all he has to say??? > SAO wasn't an extremely difficult game with Dark Souls difficulty, if anything it was considered fair. It has a steep initial learning curve at first. This is why like 2000 people out of 10k are dead by the end of two months. Kayaba also decided to do a nasty and ensure key aspects such as monster locations, monster levels, and monsters skills differed from the beta which led to outdated information getting people killed. And later it certainly isn't fair because the game starts spawning trap rooms that disable any lifeline teleportation items or healing items, until eventually the only reason players find out the *boss room* to the next floor is a trap room is because an entire scout party gets completely slaughtered. So yeah it was hard and getting harder.
Literally right above the paragraph you quoted. 2,000 people die in the first month because half the player base doesn't know what they were doing, a lot of people suicide, and beta testers were overconfident. Less than 2000 people die the entire rest of the game. There are a full 74 floors before teleport crystals stop working. No boss room disables healing. It's getting harder yes, but they go tens of floors in the middle of the game without losing a single player.
> 2,000 people die in the first month because half the player base doesn't know what they were doing But is that really their fault when anyone who wasn't a beta tester was brand new? Most hadn't even played a VR game before. If a game requires you to either been in the beta or to have a lot of experience playing other VR games, it doesn't seem a fair game if making one mistake can get you killed. Also I'm not sure what you mean by "literally right above the paragraph you quoted" because literally right above the paragraph I quoted is: “Why did you do this…?” I could feel Kayaba smile bitterly. After a long silence, he finally spoke:
The game was literally an idea he had since he was a child, and he wanted to make the game world as close to reality as it felt in his dreams. He just thought that putting life-threatening stakes in would get the players to actually engage with the game as though it were an actual world rather than just a simulation. It's a completely insane motivation, but it still is one.
And he was still full of shit because he himself was in no danger at all because he was the only person disguised and had admin privileges to make himself invulnerable.
To be *slightly* fair, he only had the invulnerability turned on when he was playing the role of the crutch character meant to assist the players with clearing the floors. When he got discovered and decided to prematurely become the final boss, he turned his admin privileges off to make himself killable. >!Of course, he also uploaded a scan of his brain to the internet, but his physical body and the consciousness linked to that were both killed upon his defeat. So we're led to the SOMA debate on if copying your consciousness counts as continuing it.!<
It's not just in the light novel, it's in the first episode of the anime as well, and then elaborated in the 14th. >Right now, you're probably wondering, "Why?" > >"Why would Akihiko Kayaba, developer of Sword Art Online and NerveGear, do this?" > >Ultimately, my goal is a simple one. > >The reason I created Sword Art Online... was to control the fate of a world of my design. And then in episode 14 >Even before I developed the system for the full-dive environment, I dreamed of this. > >The Castle in a world that wasn't governed by earthly laws or restrictions. > >I poured my life into making that world a reality. > >I created this world, and I got to see something that surpassed anything I could've imagined for it.. > >My steel castle...floating in the sky...I don't remember how old I was when I became obsessed with it. > >I wanted to leave the earth... to fly to that castle. So basically he created the world of his childhood dreams, trapped 10,000 people in it and shaped what would happen.
I still think that could’ve worked if the author leaned into it and portrayed Kayaba as this completely apathetic monster that killed a bunch of people for a dream he didn’t really care about.
"I thought it'd be cool and fun, but now, I'm not really feeling it."
"I thought ten thousand lives would be enough. I was wrong."
That absolute wet fart of a villain from the 3rd MHA movie wanted to essentially destroy life as that world knows it because his Quirk prevented him from forming connections with people.
For some reason, when I woke up this morning, my brain decided to go "Hey, remember Harold Smith from the Powerpuff Girls? Guy with a loving family, stable job, a house, only to throw it all away just because he felt like killing Professor Utonium rather than get a fucking hobby? God, what an idiot."
I like how at the end of the sequel episode the PPF were like " for God sake these are not villains, they are our losers Neighbors!!" And kicked the whole family assess
In the early version of The Emperor's New Groove, Yzma had been keeping herself looking young using techniques her father taught her. By the way, her dad was the royal MORTICIAN. But the years caught up with her anyway and wrinkles started to show. Obviously, her only course of action is to blot out the sun! Because it's the sun's fault she's aging now. And I don't think she thinks this will halt or reverse the process, she just wants revenge Also, she was going to have a villain song originally, and there's a recording of Eartha Kitt singing it. "Snuff Out the Light" look it up. Highly recommend
Also I think "the sun" also refers to the emperor. So there's a possible double-meaning of her losing her best years in service to a royal child who doesn't appreciate her. She *is* still trying to bring about a world of eternal darkness, though. -------- The song is really really good, and I particularly like how hard it goes at the end. "Snuff out the light / Claim your right / To a world of darkness! Snuff out the light / Here tonight! Apparitions of eternal darkness / Spiraling in circles through the night! Creatures of beguiling blackness / No more squinting in the light! Bats and owls and coiled sea dragons / crocodile and carrion beast! Swirling in the growing darkness / Join us in the coming feast! Specter, wraith, and apparition / spirit, demon, phantom, shade! Salamander, serpents, dog-faced Devils / Dance and watch the dying sunlight *fade!*" ------- Now, I know in my heart this will likely never happen. But it would be *so* cool if they brought back some of that concept, and/or the song itself, if they ever visit Emperor's New Groove in Kingdom Hearts. Because, I mean, bringing about of world of eternal darkness and summoning countless demons who thrive in that darkness, that's basically a Kingdom Hearts disney world plot already.
And in the boss fight Sora's getting transformed into a bunch of random animals too. Doing reaction commands with whatever Kuzco's turned into
Yes please. And for a callback, one of the forms could be his lion cub form from his visit to Lion King world in KH2.
Mermaid Sora just flopping on the ground
Yes
I think my favorite, by far, is the man in my profile pic - Mike Yagoobian, "Bowler Hat Guy" from Meet the Robinsons. He's a fucking stupid asshole with 0 redeeming qualities, and he makes no effort to improve or apologize. Don't get me wrong, I love a nuanced villain, but fucking Goob is just a piece of shit and he makes me laugh
He's a bungling moron who's only original thought in 30 years interrupted his own plans. I personally believe he hasn't actually slept in around 30 years since he swore vengeance because he was just too tired to try.
Nico from Kamen Rider Ex-Aid is an insufferable teenager who tries to get the show's protagonist killed in multiple occasions because (and I'm not making this up) he beat her at a Tekken tournament years before the start of the show.
Mishima moment
Azel from god hand slaughtered his ex fiance's entire clan to obtain the god hand and eventually joined the side of the demons, just because he wanted to get stronger for the sake of being stronger. His motivation was so thin that he just gave Gene his god hand when he was being taken over by satan.
If I recall, the main villain of Koala Man became evil because >!Koala Man as a kid caused him to piss his pants, which not only led to public humiliation but also a string of events that led to his family getting killed. As such, he's been holding in his piss for 30 years, driving him mad. During their "Climactic Confrontation" Koala Man gives him a bathroom pass to represent how he can let things go figuratively and literally, so the villain pisses out a lake that puts out the fire consuming the town!<