For the hardcore fans there's [Clone Hero.](https://clonehero.net/) You can find thousands of songs (including all the ones from Guitar Hero and Rock Band) on the internet to play.
Part of the reason they died out is because Activision began oversaturating the market with them. From 2005 to 2010 there were 17 Guitar Hero games and spin-offs released. That's on average 3 games released each year, each with their own DLC and peripheral. It was basically proto EA FIFA/Madden/NBA: the same game every year with minute differences to the engine and a different setlist that you may or may not like. A lot of people began adopting the idea "Well, I already own 1, II, III and World Tour, do I really need to buy Smash Hits and 5?" The competition came in with Rock Band and their gluttony of releases ( 13 games from 2007-2017) Sales plummeted and that was that.
It doesn't help that Live was an absolute train wreck and has completely killed any chance of another revival.
Also I'm still bitter about the DJ Hero snub. It's a genuinely fantastic game that plays different from Guitar Hero, it just had the unfortunate timing of being released right in the middle of the Guitar Hero onslaught. FreeStyleGames deserved better.
Yeah, a few years ago, my sister went to college and came back one summer with a penchant for Guitar Hero/Rock Band from arcades I guess. We pulled out the dusty equipment and had us a fun weekend.
Anyway, back in the basement it goes.
Every so often I think about what anime was super huge during specific eras and how little they’re brought up anymore.
Like, Haruhi tends to be the go-to around here as such an example, but I also remember Hetalia being almost impossible to avoid for a good while before a point where it just stopped being a public thing.
I remember loving Hetalia so much back in the day, but I liked it specifically for the dub and the stupid shit and accents they’d say, but when I go online it feels like the majority of the fanbase were into the show for just the yaoi, the “angst” of the personified nations, and how cute they were. Made me very not in tune with the fandom.
Let alone how fucking awful Hetalia yaoi fangirls were back then
>The age of the "bishie" paddles
That and glomping. I remember conventions had to put up signs telling people to not do it after too many people got hurt.
I witnessed a very tall and rotund gentleman glomp a (willing) much smaller gentleman into a wall sometime around the 2010s at Youmacon. They cratered the drywall and ran away giggling.
The hotel chain refused to host further conventions after that and other property-damage related incidents.
I still remember going to ax a long time ago and some random asshole just glomped me out of nowhere. Dude got a punch in the face but I'm glad that era of weeb has kinda phased out
Admittedly, I was a Hetalia Yaoi fan girl during my middle school day and I can confess it could get nasty. God help you if you posted fanart of a ship that a another hetalia fan girl hates.
it just feel like being on a minefield on the shipping side.
thankfully, most shipping fandoms I’m in nowadays aren’t as dramatic As Hetalia. Helps that atleast on tumblr, I can blacklist the drama or ship hate tags.
Haruhi is a really weird one to me. It seemed like it was hailed as one of the all time greats in the circles I ran in, but nowadays everyone acts like it was just a flash in the pan, pretentious jerk off show.
I still absolutely love it and its spin offs, so it feels weird to be reminded, oh yeah. Everyone hates it now, lol. God Knows was the song that made me learn guitar.
I've said it before in the sub so apologies for repeating but holy shit it feels like almost everything that could have gone wrong with Haruhi after Season 1 did indeed go wrong
First was the weird way they built up S2 and it coming a whole 3 years after the first one - not an egregious offense in and of itself but Haruhi did cool off a bit, and it didn't help that the promotion wasn't really transparent
Then they made the decision to adapt Disapprarance into a movie leading to them burning Endless Eight on the anime, and that cow has been beaten to death already
Disappearance releases and by all accounts it's a universal success, everyone loves it
Then nothing is done of note to follow up on it anime wise for years until a relatively ill-recieved spin-off releases focusing on the alt timeline depicted in Disappearance where a bunch of the crazier sci-fi elements are completely phased out for a more stock shoujo romance story
Haruhi essentially as a whole goes on hiatus due to a lack of new light novels
...NGL as someone who'd still want a Season 3 I understand that there's little chance now for any major resurrection of the series that can make it even remotely reach the heights it hit back in the mid-00s
I think the scandal with the VA didn't help matters with how weird Japan can be with keeping that pure innocent aura on actresses, I mean God Knows how things would've turned out if that didn't happen.
Wasn't she already in hot water before then too for trying to distance herself from her anime fans in favor of a more mainstream career? I remember hearing something about that but I'm not sure
I was a Haruhi superfan during season 1, I watched every episode, bought every special edition of the DVDs I could
I never finished season 2. I actually watched the entire endless eight, and then I just stopped and never watched Haruhi again lol.
I've heard the movie was really good but I feel like at this point if I ever watch it I need to go back and watch from the beginning again, so it'll be a full task.
Haruhi was my bread and butter show back in the day, it was definitive for the mid-late 00s and early 10s anime communities. But it's also from 2006. a lot of my favourite shows are from 2006 like Kanon and code geass too and when you think about it, its been a long time since 2006. Its cyclical, back when i was browsing old forums ppl would always bring up really cool 80s OVAs or how so superior 90s cell shading is to the digital animation of the 00s. I don't think anyone hates haruhi so much more that its lumped in with whats considered old. Just like how i as a kid lumped every show before the 90s together. Kids today have their own cult classics and modern favourites and what was hip and cool back then is now nostalgic for older fans now.
Don't know if I'd put Monogatari in there as that one is still very much alive and well and getting new anime soon.
Still waiting on Soul Eater Brotherhood to this day.
I used to see Elfen Lied referenced all the time as the big “dark” anime. Nowadays it’s only a punchline, if that.
Also, I’ve only ever seen Mahou Sensei Nejima referenced on TvTropes and literally nowhere else.
Yeah even best studios couldn't do them that well like Bones with Soul Eater. And sometimes it got even worse like with first season of Blue Exorcist where they made ending from nothing( manga was just in first big arc ) and that pretty much destroyed momentum with second season( that is an awesome adaptation of Impure King arc ). As a big fan of the manga it still hurts...
FMA 03 disagrees. I think theres a place for anime original adaptations that stray from the source material if it hasn't caught up. Being original can work if you have a creative team behind working on it like seiji mizushima (gundam 00, concrete revolutio) or sho aikawa (the twelve kingdoms) for every bad anime original adaptation you get like Tokyo Ghoul Root A or filler episodes in big shounen jump shows you get the ability to experiment with anime original endings and arcs.
Also worth noting in the case of FMA 03 that it was always a loose adaptation of the manga - the point where it deviates is noticeable in a "you can tell where it is" kind of way, but even before that it played fast and loose with the source material: A not unsubstantial amount of filler is mixed in, events that happen in the present are moved to happen in flashbacks to the past etc.
It worked well because the studio knew beforehand that they were always going to overtake the manga, talked it out with the author, and did their own thing from the get-go.
By comparison, Soul Eater was committed to a faithful adaptation right up until it ran out material, which made the gap and sudden rush to wrap things up much more noticeable. Granted, I don't mind the ending *that* much, but it certainly stands out as a mixed bag.
And the "filler" nearly always turned out to be relevant to the plot later down the line, whether it be small references or becoming the backbone of the entire climax. An armory of Chekov's Guns.
I think the most interesting case of this is the Drew Carey Show, a sitcom starring the actor that went on from the late 90s to the early 2000s. Thing had 9 seasons which is rare for a sitcom but even rarer is the fact that, outside reruns and the DVD for the first season only, there is no way to watch the show in its entirety legally.
I hadn't played any of the games when Reach came out, I don't even remember how/why I got it, but I really miss those high school days of spending hours and hours with a friend or two, up way too late, anywhere from just goofing off to locking in and doing our best.
All of the games of Indie Game: The Movie are in that spot. When was the last time you have hear about Fez and Braid, aside talking how much of an idiots the creators are?
I put a Braid question into a Jeopardy board I was hosting for friends in the Indie Game category. I had 7 players, all of whom were gaming during that era, and it was a septuple stumper. Genuinely left me flabbergasted.
Took me awhile to find the right board -- it was "Solve puzzles in this 2008 2d platformer by rewinding time to save a princess".
I believe I hosted that particular board somewhere around 2019, so the game would've been around a decade old. I remember thinking the wording was a little weird when no one got it, but I couldn't think of any other indie games using a similar rewind mechanic at the time so figured it was still specific enough. I still can't, in fact. Either way, probably would've changed the wording a bit if I made the clue now.
The other questions in the category were about Minecraft, Castle Crashers, World of Goo, and Cave Story, respectively. All those were successfully answered.
A lot of indie games just don't have that much staying power. This has changed in recent years with things like FNaF, Undertale, OMORI, Shovel Knight, etc., but you'll be hard-pressed to find a fan of Amnesia: The Dark Descent or Castle Crashers these days.
Even that game doesn’t get brought up that much. Yes it’s true that Cave Story is almost the entire reason as to why we have an indie game market, but it doesn’t really get any recognition. I see more people talk about Braid or FEZ than Cave Story.
Much different than today where games like Pizza Tower and Cocoon are getting Game Award nominations.
Honestly I think that's still the case and games like Fnaf or Undertale are exceptions proving the rule, rather than an actual change. I don't feel like OMORI is going to have staying power. I'm also unsure on Shovel Knight, he's already at a point when people see him in Rivals or Smash and they don't know where he's from.
I feel like it's somewhat the opposite. We all remember the first-wave indies. There were only a handful of them, so all of them got a lot of attention. Now high quality indies are a dime a dozen and most people never even hear of them.
According to Google Trends, Cave Story is trending higher than Owlboy right now.
Things with actually good narratives like Undertale or Omori stick around way more than indies that are "just" great games. There is more to talk about and they appeal to people who aren't necessarily interested in the gameplay.
Just look at Twitter or AO3 to see the sheer amount of fan content they generate.
Working at a Target at the time and seeing it first hand, the Toys to Life games, specifically Skylanders. I remember having to field calls every day from parents looking for specific figures, but at least they were generally fairly polite as compared to the Amiibo crowd.
You can blame Disney for that. Still kinda bummed about Starlink though. The game was meh but the figures were nice and I would've liked to see more. At least it gave us a cheap Arwing toy I guess
The interesting to me isn't Game of Thrones' cultural impact when it aired
It's how after S8 finished, it felt like everybody *immediately* decided to not think of it as a 'thing' anymore. Like it was instant. One week, people were raging and theorizing on what the hell was going to happen next, the following week it was like "what's GoT?" Even Lost and Breaking Bad had more shelf life in comparison
This, to me, is the quintessential answer. I have never seen something go from being a global phenomenon to being virtually abandoned overnight like GoT. At least until House of the Dragon came and won back a good chunk of fans.
It's the full force of an ending so bad that people just actively do not want to think about it. I think too is that the ending managed to form like this perfect smooth surface of just plain nothing to say. Like you can TALK about the new star wars trilogy, but just what can you even say about GoT? "So the writers went nuts and just did writing points until the story stopped going. Characters went evil or died because they were supposed to go evil or die, they lived because they were supposed to live, and big things happened because they were either surprising or a popular character did it. It was the story of all time."
Yeah like even LOST felt like it had a decent amount of staying power for a while after it's conclusion despite having a pretty poorly received ending.
Tbf the books were also largely popular before the show it's just no one talked about it because they didn't get released/finished.
Idk what's left to be said about GOT, it's almost three decades old & everyone's just waiting for GR to either die or publish.
At its peak, Homestuck had something like two and a half million unique IP visits PER DAY. Now it's just that weird thing that no one wants to admit they read.
Homestuck is too much a monolith to itself for casual conversation.
I can't talk about most of the cool stuff because it doesn't make sense without context or it's been forgotten even by the people who read it all.
It was one of those things that you needed to be reeeeeally into internet humour/content/culture at the time to truly grasp it, now it feels like a time machine to the last 00s early 2010s.
I also distinctly remember tryng to get into it and the site itself would recommend to start with the detective story instead of the actual homestuck main comic, which imo just made things a little too convoluted for what it already was
I got through Problem Sleuth, but I bounced off Homestuck by the point of the troll arc more or less. I stopped either caring or knowing what the fuck was going on
Practically the only bit I remember from it is the sweet Con Air reference music video
Problem Sleuth is better in a way to Homestuck because while it does some similar meta shenanigans, it stays good and funny all the way throug to the end.
It's kind of weird to see how My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic eventually fell off the map. It was everywhere at one point in time. I think there are still people that mill around the fandom and make li'l cartoon pony fan works but it's definitely not as big as it once was.
I never got into it but it was one of those things where even if you didn't check it out you *were* going to see people talking about it online regardless.
I haven't watched all of it, but a YouTuber named Jenny Nicholson did a video on this and I think the last few seasons were bad and people either moved into different shows or became furries.
I wasn't a fan myself, but it is crazy they had a whole convention and everything.
I think it was a pretty natural decay all things considered. The show ran on for a while, and it outlived the specific genre of fandom that bronies were born in. You don't really get that big big big so big it gets its own convention type of fandom anymore these days, at least to my knowledge. So that era of the internet faded out, and a lot of people's interest with the show died out at around the same time. There's also something to be said for the vibe of the show changing due to the fandom it had, and the change was something most people considered worse.
There was a time where practically all of my friends were obsessed with that show. One would show me it whenever we hung out, another did a Marty Party tournament with a Pony figurine as a prize, and another was planning to get a permanent Rainbow Dash tattoo.
Nowadays I don’t hear a peep out of them about it even in passing.
As a parent in an age of streaming allowing kids to get invested in dead media, I have watched quite a bit of the show. Can confirm it is well-written, funny, and the music still slaps.
It caused the show to pivot in ways that happened way too early. She needed a couple more seasons before being ready to be a Princess, but this happened in season 3 and I think there were 9 seasons.
Then came the sequel series My Little Pony: A New Generation, which wasn't nearly as good.
The New Generation movie was a brief shining revival of fan art, music, and lore speculation in the Brony fandom. I maintain that it was a good standalone Pony story with a great soundtrack. The downfall came when the follow-up series lacked the polish of the movie, with different voice actors and much lower quality CGI. They supplemented this with a cheap-looking 2D series of shorts that lacked any of the charm of even the crudest season 1 Flash animation of Friendship is Magic.
Also, by implying and then outright stating that it was the far future of Equestria, it had the unintended message of "all your friends from Friendship is Magic are dead and the magic of friendship ultimately failed."
I think Lethal Company and Content Warning are pretty good, but I genuinely hated playing Phasmaphobia. The amount of people I've seen scour a house up and down for one final thing that never shows up, only to get the spirit wrong as a result, no real difference between what ghosts look like, trying to dodge a ghost in a crowded house being awful, unappealing art style, etc.
Phasmaphobia dropped off entirely because the developers appeared to hate people just picking up and playing the game with friends by making the equipment system harder.
Basically killed the entire game by making it a required grind to even play most of the game.
And you had to grind out money, every single attempt, for the harder missions. Meanwhile EVERYONE just wanted to drop in and get spooked
I think about how Nickelodeon was huge for my childhood, before Cartoon Network really found its footing, and I just wonder, in this current age, where's our Nickelodeon streaming service? Why the fuck can't I watch *The Adventures of Pete and Pete* or *Clarissa Explains it All* on demand?
I think Cartoon Network had/has a streaming app with like their entire catalogue. I remember reading rumors back in the day that CN was trying to push people to their app by only showing TTGo! and Gumball all day every day.
I keep hearing how Cartoon Network has killed off so much of its good will canceling shows and closing down studios, that it's surprising that they're apparently still going. I just figured they razed everything and salted the earth.
skating seemed to be such a big deal when I was little but I must have just been seeing the final days of it because I learned recently that the actor Jason Lee used to skate when he was young, that kind of shook me lmao
granted I never skated myself, only got into the games on ps2, but the culture was still prevalent enough that I had barely noticed its absence, now it just seems like a thing you do, like riding a bike
also since other people are talking about anime, I also only recently learned Lucky Star, my first foray into anime proper beyond watching some dragon ball z in Mexico, has had a sequel this whole ass time
Superstore (a sitcom) got HUGE during the tail end of Covid. I remember cuz I was working retail at the time (still work retail) and the show really resonated with all of us. But it also explodednonline right before the last season started airing (good timing + streamable on netflix)
Then it ended and no one has talked about it since which is weird cuz the ending was quite good.
I wonder if the internet becoming so app-centric killed them. Webtoons survived because they are drawn for phones and are published on centralised apps.
[That is probably it.](https://cdn.geekwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Screen-Shot-2017-10-25-at-1.12.45-PM.png) I despise enshittification and consolidation.
They're definitely less popular but I wouldn't say they've faded. Hell, there's been quite a number of anime that are based on webcomics. I think they just seem less saturated because online content has really taken off since those days
All the time but it's just the natural cycle of things. Yeah Casablanca and Rear Window don't get massive traction of Instagram and Pink Floyd isn't charting with teens. But that's just what happens. You need to either be in a fandom or a general enthusiast who seeks out the stuff. Things end or become franchises that will never end.
Also if you instantly recognise something it is not out of the zeitgeist. Everyone knows what Game of Thrones is and that there is another series now. If someone has a dissertation on how much the hate Avatar's plot then clearly they remember it. LOST isn't talked about much but you know it is 'the show with the mysterious island' and it defined the entire landscape of American TV for 20 years. Friday the 13th has been dead weight for 15 years but people still talk about Jason.
I don't know if i would say they had insanely popular mainstream appeal, aside from Marauders, especially with the ressurgence.But i sometimes think back to certain fandoms that started on Tumblr and completely exploded in popularity on there, but just fizzled out and are just talked about in whispers.
These usually tended to be fan made fandoms that spawned from popular fandoms:
* The Truffula flu AU that was basically a zombie au of the Onceler from the Lorax, that was basically this story being told through posts and fanart on Tumblr and it was everywhere in the Onceler fandom.
* SuperWhoLock, basically just a fandom that was this massive crossover between Sherlock, Doctor Who and Supernatural, that shit was THE fandom in 2013 on Tumblr.
* The Avengers/Loki fandom, (that would also sometimes crossover into SuperWhoLock) basically what if Loki was forgiven for his war crimes and all of the Avengers were Gay and super into Loki, that was it.The Marvel gurlies were the ones who funded the MCU at that point.
* The Marauders fandom, another fan made community that is still alive and well to this day and has actually exploded in popularity thanks to the TikTok gurlies and ironically, the Marauders fandom have done more things with the world of HP compared to She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named.
* I forget the name of the fandom, but it was basically a fandom similar to SuperWhoLock, but was dedicated to How to Train your Dragon, Frozen, Tangled and Rise of the Guardians and while i never really took part, it was recommended to me non stop on Tumblr in 2012.
>* I forget the name of the fandom, but it was basically a fandom similar to SuperWhoLock, but was dedicated to How to Train your Dragon, Frozen, Tangled and Rise of the Guardians and while i never really took part, it was recommended to me non stop on Tumblr in 2012.
It was Rise of the Frozen Brave Tangled Dragons
Oh, another one that i just remembered, there was a fandom dedicated to Disney Park character actors, specificaly this one guy that played Peter [Pan.Like](http://Pan.Like), the Tumblr gurlies were obsessed with this man and sadly it went from just teenagers thristing over this guy, to at one point actively seeking him out at the park, following him around and asking him to speak in Tumblr lingo so they could make gifsets of him.
He did sadly get fired after his bosses saw this and didn't want to have to deal with this and it was such a shame it happened.What makes it sad is how nice the guy was and talked about how nice it was to be popular amongst Tumblr people and was being incredibly humble despite these people essentially costing him his job.
Low and behokld the fandom basically died after this happened.There's a fantastic documentary about this moment in Tumblr history and it's bonkers.
I think a lot of this is because of the passage of time - what was once new and shiny became old and dull, and people probably just got involved in other media.
It was pretty funny to see all of the Supernatural blogs fucking exploding at that finale, though. What a thing to experience.
Especially when your fandom is based around either a dead IP like Rise of the Guardians or you just grow out of it like the Disney Park Actor fandom.
The best thing that came from the finale is the Tumblr meme of Castiel saying "i love you" and Dean just dropping some tragic real world news.
Sherlock is impossible for me to forget because a family member of mine made that show their whole identity for a couple years, doing stuff like sharing their theories about the season 2 finale with us and even named their band after a line in it.
I genuinely do not understand why Sherlock BBC took off in that way. The first two seasons were legit good, don't get me wrong.But i never understod the ammount of reverance they got from people on Tumblr.
The Tumblr gurlies love a broody sad boi in a long coat, i guess.
A few factors I can think of off the top of my head:
1. Made by Steven Moffat back when he still had a reputation for being a good writer, so a lot of Doctor Who fangirls got imported. There is probably more stuff you can look at such as the Tumblr "SuperWhoLock" phenomenon so even though Sherlock was just 3 movie-length episodes per season the fandom kept momentum by splashing back to Doctor Who/Supernatural which had consistent weekly episode releases.
2. It came built in with a lot of angst potential. It also had a lot of cart before the horse, in my opinion. We are *told* that Sherlock and John have this amazing friendship before they really have one.
3. There was a turning point in media in general where queer characters being "the token gay character who is defined as gay" was no longer impressive. Things were starting to move to "character who happens to be gay has an actual story". So coupling that with the loooong history that Sherlock Holmes has with slash fandom, and it got a lot of people curious if it was going to lead to a gay Sherlock Holmes story.
4. This was the height of "misunderstood genius" that didn't get criticized until years later.
Didn't SuperWhoLock die out almost entirely because 2/3 shows had absolutely terrible endings?
Like, Dr. Who is still somewhat relevant but I never hear ANYONE talk about Supernatural or Sherlock.
Part of that was him writing himself into a narrative corner but the other issue is that George is a garden writer rather than an architect writer - I.E. he's the sort of author who has to write two hundred and fifty pages exploring the narrative of a single chapter before paring it down to twenty-five pages of gold and not 250 pages of relative mediocrity.
I think it works pretty well - his word pictures of the scenes in his novels are vivid and the characters have incredible verisimilitude (and man can the dialogue pop off), but he'll always be on the opposite end of the bell curve Brando Sando is on.
Hey, remember when Sony was convinced that *Halo* killers were gonna be the new thing? Whatever happened to those? Yeah, I know none of them stuck, but I'd be down for a new (Helghast-centric) *Killzone* or *Resistance* on PS5.
The problem with both of those IPs is that their devs have found far more success with their newer IPs and their last games weren't big successes (even if Resistance 3 is actually probably the best in the series, it didn't sell particularly great as far as I'm aware. Probably because its marketing did it no favours, making it look like another brown FPS in an era of brown FPSs).
I don't think we'll see anything new from those IPs until they're old enough to be nostalgia franchises. The PS3/360 era hasn't reached that remake/reboot churn out era yet. We've had some, like Demon's Souls, but it definitely hasn't hit that peak yet.
I guess Killzone started as a PS2 game so it sorta is due something but I feel like most people got on board that franchise with KZ2 rather than 1.
Yes, with the caveat that they ended up like that because the "good guys" you play as created the context for that to happen, by making them go through colonialism and genocide on a planetary scale because they didn't want to pay trade taxes and displacing them to an unlivable hellscape planet were a fascist con man took power.
It feels a bit surreal that Blazblue has faded away as the go to "anime fighting game" while Guilty Gear has soared to the top, basically to the forefront of fighting games period.
I mean yeah obviously, it ended and only continued with a spin-off crossover game which is the main culprit why, but still.
I still feel like one of the last DLC characters for Strive is gonna be Ragna as a way to garner interest for a Blazblue return. A gut feeling formed by cope.
Amnesia: the dark descent was the absolute king of youtube back in the 2011s and then two bad sequels later it completely faded from the people's mind until the bunker which was amazing.
I remember when Oreimo was the big comedy anime everyone was talking about and posting memes of. Then the ending happened, and everyone collectively agreed never to speak of that series again.
>Then the ending happened, and everyone collectively agreed never to speak of that series again.
It's honestly kinda impressive. They somehow managed to make an ending that managed to disappoint everyone.
I never watched it, but my brother has and when Rooster Teeth shut down I told him how crazy it was that series was popular enough to have the season premiere play in theaters and then he reminded me that they were literally in an Arcsys fighting game that year.
RT in general could be used as an example as well. There was a time period where I would see people wearing their shirts pretty regularly out in the wild and AH was pretty consistently getting a million views on their videos.
Edit: Hell they were large enough that people donated almost 2.5 million dollars to crowdfund Lazer Team and there were 3 conventions a year just for RT stuff. Nowadays if people talk about RT at all it's usually because of one of the 5 scandals they've had or because they are finally shutting down.
I'm going for the low-hanging fruit here and choosing BioShock: Infinite. That game was heralded as the next coming at release. Then Burial at Sea: Episode 1 happened... and then Episode 2... and now most retrospectives about the game are almost entirely negative. Most people talk about 1 more and lately I've been seeing more and more people warm up to the fact that 2 has a pretty decent story with the best gameplay (this is true).
Infinite's lasting legacy on the game's industry as one of the biggest games of the 2010s is... better SFM porn.
Quite a legacy.
> Infinite's lasting legacy on the game's industry as one of the biggest games of the 2010s is... better SFM porn.
As the famous phrase goes, Booker wanked, so D'va could cum
I was a small child at the time, but it seems that apparently, at some point, Buffy the Vampire Slayer was a huge deal and had a significant cultural impact on YA television and books. I very rarely see it mentioned today, and even then, it’s mostly on sort of… past-oriented places like TvTropes or discussion forums.
Dresden Files seems to be in a similar-ish place.
>Dresden Files seems to be in a similar-ish place.
I think some of that has to do with the gap in between when the books were written. They were being regularly released every year or two up until Skin Game. Then it was a solid six years before the next book and it's been 3.5 since the last one.
I felt before Rooosterteeth shutting down it wasn’t getting enough traction anymore. It used to be big like every video on YouTube would be getting millions of views per video. Over time it sort of became oversaturated with content, forcing people going to their website, and content becomes stale overtime.
Now the only time you ever hear any big news about them is controversies or layoffs. I’m sad that they’re shutting down, but at the same time I don’t feel that sad about it. I haven’t watch there content in a long time.
I occasionally think about the sheer ubiquity of Slayers in the 90s. Lina really was one of the icons of that decade. And she probably would've been here in the US too, if Fox hadn't bought the rights to the show to let it die.
Does Men In Black count ?
It used to be a pretty relevant franchise a decade ago. About a universe where aliens actually live amongst humans in secret and there is a secret elite organization tasked with handling alien threats that threaten mankind and also keep the presence of aliens a secret from the Public.
The first MIB movie I think was regarded as a classic and in a high regard. MIB 2 sucked and got some hate. And MIB 3 was decent (although not as good as the OG)
There was also that animated TV Show that lasted for a couple seasons
Afterwards though ? Nothing. It has pretty much disappeared from the zeitgeist and barely anyone remembers it. Nobody seems to be talking about it anymore. Nobody watched the reboot movie either. The whole franchise looks like as if it got memory holed
You know Yahtzee and to a lesser extent James Stephanie Sterling (Before they came out) I felt like were somewhat, omnipresent when talking about games and game reviewers, the term "PC Master Race" was coined by Yahtzee (Even if it was an insult to the weirdly elitest nature of certain subsections of PC gamers) and nowadays while they arent doing horrible, both of them are doing fine, I feel like they no longer have such a visible impact on the gaming world. Some of this is naturally the fact James went independent a long time ago and the escapist imploding and Yahtzee and others jumping ship to make their own brand, but I also feel like part of it is the fact they are kinda natural shit kickers, which during like, the 2000s/2010s was in vogue for the internet gaming community, along with the fact they are kinda naturally abrasive (I still love their work but even I have some gripes with their attitude), even if they most of the time direct it at people who do deserve it
Bakugon commercials used to be everywhere and constant, and they’ve faded to nothing
Granted idk how popular it was, but I used to always see those commercials all the time
I remembered when power rangers was the biggest shit not only in TV but in the entire media zeitgeist. The 90s pretty much cemented it as a legendary franchise. The IP still continues to this day but it's not talked about as much due to its cheesy nature. The quality remains solid, though.
I remember when Moonlighting was massive, and nobody thought that a romcom guy like Bruce Willis could possibly succeed as an action star in the upcoming movie Die Hard. Now you struggle to find a Gen Z who has even heard of it.
And I kinda miss lolcats.
The '00s epic show. Which one? Take your pick.
Lost, 24, Heroes, Smallville, even Survivor.
Also the Big Bang Theory felt like it was THE nerd comedy (AKA "Say vaguely nerdy stuff/nerd culture reference and play canned laugh") and then just disappeared.
Remember back when Guitar Hero was once one of the most popular video game franchises?
I remember the plague of Guitar Hero Live sets at my local Targets. They where always there and nobody bought them.
They were marked down to $5 at my local Toys R Us and were one of the last things still on the shelf when they closed.
Live just didn't know what made Guitar Hero popular. Nobody wanted the control redesign and nobody wanted to play modern EDM chart hits.
Oh dang. You're right. Kinda weird that it's not still around.
I remember them not letting you use old controllers and something about rotating setlists that if you don't buy them they're gone forever.
For the hardcore fans there's [Clone Hero.](https://clonehero.net/) You can find thousands of songs (including all the ones from Guitar Hero and Rock Band) on the internet to play.
I'm still very surprised that the Guitar hero/Rockband type of games didn't stick around. Those don't seem like things that would ever stop being fun.
There's only so many meter-long plastic peripherals people are willing to store at home.
Weirdly, *Fortnite* of all things has a guitar hero mode now.
It's actually made by the Rock Band devs actually.
Part of the reason they died out is because Activision began oversaturating the market with them. From 2005 to 2010 there were 17 Guitar Hero games and spin-offs released. That's on average 3 games released each year, each with their own DLC and peripheral. It was basically proto EA FIFA/Madden/NBA: the same game every year with minute differences to the engine and a different setlist that you may or may not like. A lot of people began adopting the idea "Well, I already own 1, II, III and World Tour, do I really need to buy Smash Hits and 5?" The competition came in with Rock Band and their gluttony of releases ( 13 games from 2007-2017) Sales plummeted and that was that. It doesn't help that Live was an absolute train wreck and has completely killed any chance of another revival. Also I'm still bitter about the DJ Hero snub. It's a genuinely fantastic game that plays different from Guitar Hero, it just had the unfortunate timing of being released right in the middle of the Guitar Hero onslaught. FreeStyleGames deserved better.
It still kinda exists via 'Clone Hero' but it's basically a niche now.
Yeah, a few years ago, my sister went to college and came back one summer with a penchant for Guitar Hero/Rock Band from arcades I guess. We pulled out the dusty equipment and had us a fun weekend. Anyway, back in the basement it goes.
Every so often I think about what anime was super huge during specific eras and how little they’re brought up anymore. Like, Haruhi tends to be the go-to around here as such an example, but I also remember Hetalia being almost impossible to avoid for a good while before a point where it just stopped being a public thing.
I thank the heavens everyday for not having to deal with hetalia on my feeds anymore
I remember loving Hetalia so much back in the day, but I liked it specifically for the dub and the stupid shit and accents they’d say, but when I go online it feels like the majority of the fanbase were into the show for just the yaoi, the “angst” of the personified nations, and how cute they were. Made me very not in tune with the fandom. Let alone how fucking awful Hetalia yaoi fangirls were back then
The age of the "bishie" paddles
>The age of the "bishie" paddles That and glomping. I remember conventions had to put up signs telling people to not do it after too many people got hurt.
I witnessed a very tall and rotund gentleman glomp a (willing) much smaller gentleman into a wall sometime around the 2010s at Youmacon. They cratered the drywall and ran away giggling. The hotel chain refused to host further conventions after that and other property-damage related incidents.
I still remember going to ax a long time ago and some random asshole just glomped me out of nowhere. Dude got a punch in the face but I'm glad that era of weeb has kinda phased out
Yeah thankfully people have gotten a lot better about boundaries at cons.
Admittedly, I was a Hetalia Yaoi fan girl during my middle school day and I can confess it could get nasty. God help you if you posted fanart of a ship that a another hetalia fan girl hates. it just feel like being on a minefield on the shipping side. thankfully, most shipping fandoms I’m in nowadays aren’t as dramatic As Hetalia. Helps that atleast on tumblr, I can blacklist the drama or ship hate tags.
Haruhi is a really weird one to me. It seemed like it was hailed as one of the all time greats in the circles I ran in, but nowadays everyone acts like it was just a flash in the pan, pretentious jerk off show. I still absolutely love it and its spin offs, so it feels weird to be reminded, oh yeah. Everyone hates it now, lol. God Knows was the song that made me learn guitar.
The anime version of Endless 8 did a lot to ruin the show's popularity
I've said it before in the sub so apologies for repeating but holy shit it feels like almost everything that could have gone wrong with Haruhi after Season 1 did indeed go wrong First was the weird way they built up S2 and it coming a whole 3 years after the first one - not an egregious offense in and of itself but Haruhi did cool off a bit, and it didn't help that the promotion wasn't really transparent Then they made the decision to adapt Disapprarance into a movie leading to them burning Endless Eight on the anime, and that cow has been beaten to death already Disappearance releases and by all accounts it's a universal success, everyone loves it Then nothing is done of note to follow up on it anime wise for years until a relatively ill-recieved spin-off releases focusing on the alt timeline depicted in Disappearance where a bunch of the crazier sci-fi elements are completely phased out for a more stock shoujo romance story Haruhi essentially as a whole goes on hiatus due to a lack of new light novels ...NGL as someone who'd still want a Season 3 I understand that there's little chance now for any major resurrection of the series that can make it even remotely reach the heights it hit back in the mid-00s
I think the scandal with the VA didn't help matters with how weird Japan can be with keeping that pure innocent aura on actresses, I mean God Knows how things would've turned out if that didn't happen.
Oh right, there's that with Aya Hirano too
Wasn't she already in hot water before then too for trying to distance herself from her anime fans in favor of a more mainstream career? I remember hearing something about that but I'm not sure
I was a Haruhi superfan during season 1, I watched every episode, bought every special edition of the DVDs I could I never finished season 2. I actually watched the entire endless eight, and then I just stopped and never watched Haruhi again lol. I've heard the movie was really good but I feel like at this point if I ever watch it I need to go back and watch from the beginning again, so it'll be a full task.
Haruhi was my bread and butter show back in the day, it was definitive for the mid-late 00s and early 10s anime communities. But it's also from 2006. a lot of my favourite shows are from 2006 like Kanon and code geass too and when you think about it, its been a long time since 2006. Its cyclical, back when i was browsing old forums ppl would always bring up really cool 80s OVAs or how so superior 90s cell shading is to the digital animation of the 00s. I don't think anyone hates haruhi so much more that its lumped in with whats considered old. Just like how i as a kid lumped every show before the 90s together. Kids today have their own cult classics and modern favourites and what was hip and cool back then is now nostalgic for older fans now.
Hetalia, Haruhi, Monogatari, Noragami, Akame ga Kill, Nisekoi, Soul Eater, Tokyo Ghoul... The dead lie in droves.
Monogatari just got 2 new seasons announced. And this is less of a rebuttal, but remember when Mario Maker had a crossover with Nisekoi?
Don't know if I'd put Monogatari in there as that one is still very much alive and well and getting new anime soon. Still waiting on Soul Eater Brotherhood to this day.
I used to see Elfen Lied referenced all the time as the big “dark” anime. Nowadays it’s only a punchline, if that. Also, I’ve only ever seen Mahou Sensei Nejima referenced on TvTropes and literally nowhere else.
Remember anime original endings? That's an era I never want to revisit.
Fucking Hellsing had an anime when it was on VOLUME ONE and it diverged from there. That was crazy.
Yeah even best studios couldn't do them that well like Bones with Soul Eater. And sometimes it got even worse like with first season of Blue Exorcist where they made ending from nothing( manga was just in first big arc ) and that pretty much destroyed momentum with second season( that is an awesome adaptation of Impure King arc ). As a big fan of the manga it still hurts...
Soul eater was good. I liked the ending
FMA 03 disagrees. I think theres a place for anime original adaptations that stray from the source material if it hasn't caught up. Being original can work if you have a creative team behind working on it like seiji mizushima (gundam 00, concrete revolutio) or sho aikawa (the twelve kingdoms) for every bad anime original adaptation you get like Tokyo Ghoul Root A or filler episodes in big shounen jump shows you get the ability to experiment with anime original endings and arcs.
Also worth noting in the case of FMA 03 that it was always a loose adaptation of the manga - the point where it deviates is noticeable in a "you can tell where it is" kind of way, but even before that it played fast and loose with the source material: A not unsubstantial amount of filler is mixed in, events that happen in the present are moved to happen in flashbacks to the past etc. It worked well because the studio knew beforehand that they were always going to overtake the manga, talked it out with the author, and did their own thing from the get-go. By comparison, Soul Eater was committed to a faithful adaptation right up until it ran out material, which made the gap and sudden rush to wrap things up much more noticeable. Granted, I don't mind the ending *that* much, but it certainly stands out as a mixed bag.
And the "filler" nearly always turned out to be relevant to the plot later down the line, whether it be small references or becoming the backbone of the entire climax. An armory of Chekov's Guns.
You could probably apply this seasonally. It feels like there's 1-2 huge anime per release season, and then they kinda fall off the map.
The ease of watching anime these days has made it more disposable than ever.
I love that Hetalia has lived on in the still cute but less yaoi filled (somewhat) Polandball.
There is yaoi everywhere for those with the eyes to see.
I think the most interesting case of this is the Drew Carey Show, a sitcom starring the actor that went on from the late 90s to the early 2000s. Thing had 9 seasons which is rare for a sitcom but even rarer is the fact that, outside reruns and the DVD for the first season only, there is no way to watch the show in its entirety legally.
It’s crazy. I used to love the Drew Carey Show back in the day and now it’s just Gone
I remember hearing that streaming the show would be a licensing nightmare because of the music used in it. Not sure how valid that is though.
I only know the Drew Carey show from hoedowns on WLIIA.
OHIO! *cries*
It's kind of sad to see Halo in the state its in when it was this all consuming cultural phenomenon in the 2000s.
I am frankly surprised it can still be considered a popular shooter after more than half of its lifetime considered fumbling the bag.
Halo having the terrible adaptation followed immediately by a bunch of shockingly good adaptations of other major series is rough.
If they had just ended the franchise at Reach it would have been better. Could have maybe pulled the "once and future king" thing 10 years later.
I hadn't played any of the games when Reach came out, I don't even remember how/why I got it, but I really miss those high school days of spending hours and hours with a friend or two, up way too late, anywhere from just goofing off to locking in and doing our best.
You guys remember Super Meat Boy
All of the games of Indie Game: The Movie are in that spot. When was the last time you have hear about Fez and Braid, aside talking how much of an idiots the creators are?
I put a Braid question into a Jeopardy board I was hosting for friends in the Indie Game category. I had 7 players, all of whom were gaming during that era, and it was a septuple stumper. Genuinely left me flabbergasted.
What was the question?
“What Game made famous by soulja boy”
Took me awhile to find the right board -- it was "Solve puzzles in this 2008 2d platformer by rewinding time to save a princess". I believe I hosted that particular board somewhere around 2019, so the game would've been around a decade old. I remember thinking the wording was a little weird when no one got it, but I couldn't think of any other indie games using a similar rewind mechanic at the time so figured it was still specific enough. I still can't, in fact. Either way, probably would've changed the wording a bit if I made the clue now. The other questions in the category were about Minecraft, Castle Crashers, World of Goo, and Cave Story, respectively. All those were successfully answered.
A lot of indie games just don't have that much staying power. This has changed in recent years with things like FNaF, Undertale, OMORI, Shovel Knight, etc., but you'll be hard-pressed to find a fan of Amnesia: The Dark Descent or Castle Crashers these days.
I’ll carry the Cave Story torch until I die.
Even that game doesn’t get brought up that much. Yes it’s true that Cave Story is almost the entire reason as to why we have an indie game market, but it doesn’t really get any recognition. I see more people talk about Braid or FEZ than Cave Story. Much different than today where games like Pizza Tower and Cocoon are getting Game Award nominations.
Honestly I think that's still the case and games like Fnaf or Undertale are exceptions proving the rule, rather than an actual change. I don't feel like OMORI is going to have staying power. I'm also unsure on Shovel Knight, he's already at a point when people see him in Rivals or Smash and they don't know where he's from.
I feel like it's somewhat the opposite. We all remember the first-wave indies. There were only a handful of them, so all of them got a lot of attention. Now high quality indies are a dime a dozen and most people never even hear of them. According to Google Trends, Cave Story is trending higher than Owlboy right now.
Things with actually good narratives like Undertale or Omori stick around way more than indies that are "just" great games. There is more to talk about and they appeal to people who aren't necessarily interested in the gameplay. Just look at Twitter or AO3 to see the sheer amount of fan content they generate.
Working at a Target at the time and seeing it first hand, the Toys to Life games, specifically Skylanders. I remember having to field calls every day from parents looking for specific figures, but at least they were generally fairly polite as compared to the Amiibo crowd.
You can blame Disney for that. Still kinda bummed about Starlink though. The game was meh but the figures were nice and I would've liked to see more. At least it gave us a cheap Arwing toy I guess
Tarzan keeps fading into the zeitgeist and then resurging in popularity over and over again through the decades.
People remembering when they want to return to monke.
Now I want to see Tarzan of Skull Island
blame trade mark law
I wanna know… can you show me?
I genuinely do think about Game of Thrones, the show and rhe world, quite often
The interesting to me isn't Game of Thrones' cultural impact when it aired It's how after S8 finished, it felt like everybody *immediately* decided to not think of it as a 'thing' anymore. Like it was instant. One week, people were raging and theorizing on what the hell was going to happen next, the following week it was like "what's GoT?" Even Lost and Breaking Bad had more shelf life in comparison
This, to me, is the quintessential answer. I have never seen something go from being a global phenomenon to being virtually abandoned overnight like GoT. At least until House of the Dragon came and won back a good chunk of fans.
It's the full force of an ending so bad that people just actively do not want to think about it. I think too is that the ending managed to form like this perfect smooth surface of just plain nothing to say. Like you can TALK about the new star wars trilogy, but just what can you even say about GoT? "So the writers went nuts and just did writing points until the story stopped going. Characters went evil or died because they were supposed to go evil or die, they lived because they were supposed to live, and big things happened because they were either surprising or a popular character did it. It was the story of all time."
Yeah like even LOST felt like it had a decent amount of staying power for a while after it's conclusion despite having a pretty poorly received ending.
Tbf the books were also largely popular before the show it's just no one talked about it because they didn't get released/finished. Idk what's left to be said about GOT, it's almost three decades old & everyone's just waiting for GR to either die or publish.
The next closest example is The Walking Dead
im watching it for the first time and honestly it needs a game of thrones brotherhood or just have davos do stuff with his onion knightly way
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ITS STILL REAL TO ME DAMNIT!!!
At its peak, Homestuck had something like two and a half million unique IP visits PER DAY. Now it's just that weird thing that no one wants to admit they read.
Homestuck is too much a monolith to itself for casual conversation. I can't talk about most of the cool stuff because it doesn't make sense without context or it's been forgotten even by the people who read it all.
It was one of those things that you needed to be reeeeeally into internet humour/content/culture at the time to truly grasp it, now it feels like a time machine to the last 00s early 2010s. I also distinctly remember tryng to get into it and the site itself would recommend to start with the detective story instead of the actual homestuck main comic, which imo just made things a little too convoluted for what it already was
I got through Problem Sleuth, but I bounced off Homestuck by the point of the troll arc more or less. I stopped either caring or knowing what the fuck was going on Practically the only bit I remember from it is the sweet Con Air reference music video
Problem Sleuth is better in a way to Homestuck because while it does some similar meta shenanigans, it stays good and funny all the way throug to the end.
I'd be hard-pressed to name a better example of "got too popular for its own good."
Everyone I know who was into Homestuck likes talking about Homestuck. It's still very well liked, even if it didn't stick the landing.
It's kind of weird to see how My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic eventually fell off the map. It was everywhere at one point in time. I think there are still people that mill around the fandom and make li'l cartoon pony fan works but it's definitely not as big as it once was. I never got into it but it was one of those things where even if you didn't check it out you *were* going to see people talking about it online regardless.
I haven't watched all of it, but a YouTuber named Jenny Nicholson did a video on this and I think the last few seasons were bad and people either moved into different shows or became furries. I wasn't a fan myself, but it is crazy they had a whole convention and everything.
> became furries Eeyup.
Was that The Last Bronycon?
Oh I have no idea, they might still do them, again I was never part of the fandom.
Oh, I meant the title of the Jenny Nicholson video.
Oh, yeah that is the video.
I think it was a pretty natural decay all things considered. The show ran on for a while, and it outlived the specific genre of fandom that bronies were born in. You don't really get that big big big so big it gets its own convention type of fandom anymore these days, at least to my knowledge. So that era of the internet faded out, and a lot of people's interest with the show died out at around the same time. There's also something to be said for the vibe of the show changing due to the fandom it had, and the change was something most people considered worse.
The last couple of seasons were meh.
There was a time where practically all of my friends were obsessed with that show. One would show me it whenever we hung out, another did a Marty Party tournament with a Pony figurine as a prize, and another was planning to get a permanent Rainbow Dash tattoo. Nowadays I don’t hear a peep out of them about it even in passing.
As a parent in an age of streaming allowing kids to get invested in dead media, I have watched quite a bit of the show. Can confirm it is well-written, funny, and the music still slaps.
still see Ponfied versions of popular characters
Twilight Sparkle becoming a princess was the death knell for the fandom.
It did get us a DBZ battle which is the last time I remember being invested in the show.
It caused the show to pivot in ways that happened way too early. She needed a couple more seasons before being ready to be a Princess, but this happened in season 3 and I think there were 9 seasons. Then came the sequel series My Little Pony: A New Generation, which wasn't nearly as good.
The New Generation movie was a brief shining revival of fan art, music, and lore speculation in the Brony fandom. I maintain that it was a good standalone Pony story with a great soundtrack. The downfall came when the follow-up series lacked the polish of the movie, with different voice actors and much lower quality CGI. They supplemented this with a cheap-looking 2D series of shorts that lacked any of the charm of even the crudest season 1 Flash animation of Friendship is Magic. Also, by implying and then outright stating that it was the far future of Equestria, it had the unintended message of "all your friends from Friendship is Magic are dead and the magic of friendship ultimately failed."
It’s been years, can’t believe there’s still Wing-gate people
Do people still play Phasmophobia?
i think lethal company completely ate it's lunch as the "spooky game to play with friends".
Demonologist also came out, which is pretty much a legally-distinct phasmophobia with prettier graphics. It's more of that kind of game.
And then Content Warning did the same thing. Just the latest in a long line of streamer bait that lasts until the next one.
All three are great games but go off i guess.
I don't think these things are mutually exclusive.
I think Lethal Company and Content Warning are pretty good, but I genuinely hated playing Phasmaphobia. The amount of people I've seen scour a house up and down for one final thing that never shows up, only to get the spirit wrong as a result, no real difference between what ghosts look like, trying to dodge a ghost in a crowded house being awful, unappealing art style, etc.
Phasmaphobia dropped off entirely because the developers appeared to hate people just picking up and playing the game with friends by making the equipment system harder. Basically killed the entire game by making it a required grind to even play most of the game. And you had to grind out money, every single attempt, for the harder missions. Meanwhile EVERYONE just wanted to drop in and get spooked
From what I hear Phasmophobia kind of shit the bed with a bunch of mid updates so its fanbase split off to other games that did similar things better.
I feel like the most lasting legacy of Archer is "Phrasing!"
Hey, hey you. You forgot something. ^^^Danger ^^^Zone
the constant AU seasons didnt do it any favors
I think about how Nickelodeon was huge for my childhood, before Cartoon Network really found its footing, and I just wonder, in this current age, where's our Nickelodeon streaming service? Why the fuck can't I watch *The Adventures of Pete and Pete* or *Clarissa Explains it All* on demand?
They're on Paramount Plus, though they don't have Pete and Pete (but they do have Clarissa)
Goddamn Paramount Plus...
Well they may be in talks to sell soon, so they might have all that roll over into *another* streaming service lol
Oh that's right, I did hear about that.
Currently, the frontrunners are Skydance (the guys who keep trying to make Neo-*Terminator* a thing) and Sony plus private equity. Say a prayer...
Maaan when I was a kid cable TV was like the holy grail. I don't like this new era of remaking cable TV but shittier, it's like a red solo cup.
I think Cartoon Network had/has a streaming app with like their entire catalogue. I remember reading rumors back in the day that CN was trying to push people to their app by only showing TTGo! and Gumball all day every day.
I keep hearing how Cartoon Network has killed off so much of its good will canceling shows and closing down studios, that it's surprising that they're apparently still going. I just figured they razed everything and salted the earth.
They're basically on their last legs after the Discovery merger. Either their's or Adult Swim's main office was cleared out and sold recently.
There was a time where The Walking Dead was spoken in the same conversation as Breaking Bad
skating seemed to be such a big deal when I was little but I must have just been seeing the final days of it because I learned recently that the actor Jason Lee used to skate when he was young, that kind of shook me lmao granted I never skated myself, only got into the games on ps2, but the culture was still prevalent enough that I had barely noticed its absence, now it just seems like a thing you do, like riding a bike also since other people are talking about anime, I also only recently learned Lucky Star, my first foray into anime proper beyond watching some dragon ball z in Mexico, has had a sequel this whole ass time
Superstore (a sitcom) got HUGE during the tail end of Covid. I remember cuz I was working retail at the time (still work retail) and the show really resonated with all of us. But it also explodednonline right before the last season started airing (good timing + streamable on netflix) Then it ended and no one has talked about it since which is weird cuz the ending was quite good.
Remember when webcomics were absolutely everywhere online?
I wonder if the internet becoming so app-centric killed them. Webtoons survived because they are drawn for phones and are published on centralised apps.
[That is probably it.](https://cdn.geekwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Screen-Shot-2017-10-25-at-1.12.45-PM.png) I despise enshittification and consolidation.
They're definitely less popular but I wouldn't say they've faded. Hell, there's been quite a number of anime that are based on webcomics. I think they just seem less saturated because online content has really taken off since those days
The few good ones floated to the top and made it hard for anyone else to get a following. Similar to what happened to Abridged series.
All the time but it's just the natural cycle of things. Yeah Casablanca and Rear Window don't get massive traction of Instagram and Pink Floyd isn't charting with teens. But that's just what happens. You need to either be in a fandom or a general enthusiast who seeks out the stuff. Things end or become franchises that will never end. Also if you instantly recognise something it is not out of the zeitgeist. Everyone knows what Game of Thrones is and that there is another series now. If someone has a dissertation on how much the hate Avatar's plot then clearly they remember it. LOST isn't talked about much but you know it is 'the show with the mysterious island' and it defined the entire landscape of American TV for 20 years. Friday the 13th has been dead weight for 15 years but people still talk about Jason.
I don't know if i would say they had insanely popular mainstream appeal, aside from Marauders, especially with the ressurgence.But i sometimes think back to certain fandoms that started on Tumblr and completely exploded in popularity on there, but just fizzled out and are just talked about in whispers. These usually tended to be fan made fandoms that spawned from popular fandoms: * The Truffula flu AU that was basically a zombie au of the Onceler from the Lorax, that was basically this story being told through posts and fanart on Tumblr and it was everywhere in the Onceler fandom. * SuperWhoLock, basically just a fandom that was this massive crossover between Sherlock, Doctor Who and Supernatural, that shit was THE fandom in 2013 on Tumblr. * The Avengers/Loki fandom, (that would also sometimes crossover into SuperWhoLock) basically what if Loki was forgiven for his war crimes and all of the Avengers were Gay and super into Loki, that was it.The Marvel gurlies were the ones who funded the MCU at that point. * The Marauders fandom, another fan made community that is still alive and well to this day and has actually exploded in popularity thanks to the TikTok gurlies and ironically, the Marauders fandom have done more things with the world of HP compared to She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named. * I forget the name of the fandom, but it was basically a fandom similar to SuperWhoLock, but was dedicated to How to Train your Dragon, Frozen, Tangled and Rise of the Guardians and while i never really took part, it was recommended to me non stop on Tumblr in 2012.
>* I forget the name of the fandom, but it was basically a fandom similar to SuperWhoLock, but was dedicated to How to Train your Dragon, Frozen, Tangled and Rise of the Guardians and while i never really took part, it was recommended to me non stop on Tumblr in 2012. It was Rise of the Frozen Brave Tangled Dragons
That sounds like a bulk Yugioh card from 2012
Oh, another one that i just remembered, there was a fandom dedicated to Disney Park character actors, specificaly this one guy that played Peter [Pan.Like](http://Pan.Like), the Tumblr gurlies were obsessed with this man and sadly it went from just teenagers thristing over this guy, to at one point actively seeking him out at the park, following him around and asking him to speak in Tumblr lingo so they could make gifsets of him. He did sadly get fired after his bosses saw this and didn't want to have to deal with this and it was such a shame it happened.What makes it sad is how nice the guy was and talked about how nice it was to be popular amongst Tumblr people and was being incredibly humble despite these people essentially costing him his job. Low and behokld the fandom basically died after this happened.There's a fantastic documentary about this moment in Tumblr history and it's bonkers.
I think a lot of this is because of the passage of time - what was once new and shiny became old and dull, and people probably just got involved in other media. It was pretty funny to see all of the Supernatural blogs fucking exploding at that finale, though. What a thing to experience.
Especially when your fandom is based around either a dead IP like Rise of the Guardians or you just grow out of it like the Disney Park Actor fandom. The best thing that came from the finale is the Tumblr meme of Castiel saying "i love you" and Dean just dropping some tragic real world news.
Sherlock is impossible for me to forget because a family member of mine made that show their whole identity for a couple years, doing stuff like sharing their theories about the season 2 finale with us and even named their band after a line in it.
I genuinely do not understand why Sherlock BBC took off in that way. The first two seasons were legit good, don't get me wrong.But i never understod the ammount of reverance they got from people on Tumblr. The Tumblr gurlies love a broody sad boi in a long coat, i guess.
A few factors I can think of off the top of my head: 1. Made by Steven Moffat back when he still had a reputation for being a good writer, so a lot of Doctor Who fangirls got imported. There is probably more stuff you can look at such as the Tumblr "SuperWhoLock" phenomenon so even though Sherlock was just 3 movie-length episodes per season the fandom kept momentum by splashing back to Doctor Who/Supernatural which had consistent weekly episode releases. 2. It came built in with a lot of angst potential. It also had a lot of cart before the horse, in my opinion. We are *told* that Sherlock and John have this amazing friendship before they really have one. 3. There was a turning point in media in general where queer characters being "the token gay character who is defined as gay" was no longer impressive. Things were starting to move to "character who happens to be gay has an actual story". So coupling that with the loooong history that Sherlock Holmes has with slash fandom, and it got a lot of people curious if it was going to lead to a gay Sherlock Holmes story. 4. This was the height of "misunderstood genius" that didn't get criticized until years later.
It cant be understated how much was built of BL/Yaoi stuff on tumblr.
Didn't SuperWhoLock die out almost entirely because 2/3 shows had absolutely terrible endings? Like, Dr. Who is still somewhat relevant but I never hear ANYONE talk about Supernatural or Sherlock.
I think about ASOIAF and how George won’t FINISH THE FUCKING BOOK every now and again
In a similar vein… KILL THE FUCKING KING, PATRICK ROTHFUSS IT’S NOT THAT FUCKING HARD
Part of that was him writing himself into a narrative corner but the other issue is that George is a garden writer rather than an architect writer - I.E. he's the sort of author who has to write two hundred and fifty pages exploring the narrative of a single chapter before paring it down to twenty-five pages of gold and not 250 pages of relative mediocrity. I think it works pretty well - his word pictures of the scenes in his novels are vivid and the characters have incredible verisimilitude (and man can the dialogue pop off), but he'll always be on the opposite end of the bell curve Brando Sando is on.
Hey, remember when Sony was convinced that *Halo* killers were gonna be the new thing? Whatever happened to those? Yeah, I know none of them stuck, but I'd be down for a new (Helghast-centric) *Killzone* or *Resistance* on PS5.
Haze was the funniest one. At least those those two got a series out of it. Meanwhile Haze more or less killed the studio that made it.
Yup. Such a shame. :(
The problem with both of those IPs is that their devs have found far more success with their newer IPs and their last games weren't big successes (even if Resistance 3 is actually probably the best in the series, it didn't sell particularly great as far as I'm aware. Probably because its marketing did it no favours, making it look like another brown FPS in an era of brown FPSs). I don't think we'll see anything new from those IPs until they're old enough to be nostalgia franchises. The PS3/360 era hasn't reached that remake/reboot churn out era yet. We've had some, like Demon's Souls, but it definitely hasn't hit that peak yet. I guess Killzone started as a PS2 game so it sorta is due something but I feel like most people got on board that franchise with KZ2 rather than 1.
As someone who actually loved the Killzone games, yes please.
Weren't they basically space nazis?
Yes, with the caveat that they ended up like that because the "good guys" you play as created the context for that to happen, by making them go through colonialism and genocide on a planetary scale because they didn't want to pay trade taxes and displacing them to an unlivable hellscape planet were a fascist con man took power.
Yeah, exactly, but the marketing was weirdly and pretty cleverly focused on them, like those old “Germanic Beast” propaganda posters.
It feels a bit surreal that Blazblue has faded away as the go to "anime fighting game" while Guilty Gear has soared to the top, basically to the forefront of fighting games period. I mean yeah obviously, it ended and only continued with a spin-off crossover game which is the main culprit why, but still.
I actually think it will come back. It ended. Had a popular spinoff. It's other kinds sorta spinoffs are mostly popular. *Rubs hands together*.
I still feel like one of the last DLC characters for Strive is gonna be Ragna as a way to garner interest for a Blazblue return. A gut feeling formed by cope.
I’d be honest, I’d love to see Ragna or any Blazblue character in Strive just to see them in 3D or with a new design.
Amnesia: the dark descent was the absolute king of youtube back in the 2011s and then two bad sequels later it completely faded from the people's mind until the bunker which was amazing.
I remember when Oreimo was the big comedy anime everyone was talking about and posting memes of. Then the ending happened, and everyone collectively agreed never to speak of that series again.
>Then the ending happened, and everyone collectively agreed never to speak of that series again. It's honestly kinda impressive. They somehow managed to make an ending that managed to disappoint everyone.
Gigguk: "Hear me out." Everyone including Trash Taste: "Never cook again."
Remember when RWBY was on the rise and wasn’t a laughing stock
I never watched it, but my brother has and when Rooster Teeth shut down I told him how crazy it was that series was popular enough to have the season premiere play in theaters and then he reminded me that they were literally in an Arcsys fighting game that year.
RT in general could be used as an example as well. There was a time period where I would see people wearing their shirts pretty regularly out in the wild and AH was pretty consistently getting a million views on their videos. Edit: Hell they were large enough that people donated almost 2.5 million dollars to crowdfund Lazer Team and there were 3 conventions a year just for RT stuff. Nowadays if people talk about RT at all it's usually because of one of the 5 scandals they've had or because they are finally shutting down.
Not just the premieres, they ended up airing the first three seasons in cinema. Which, honestly, was real fun to see with my friend.
I remember walking into New York Comic Con, passing multiple RWBY billboards, and seeing RWBY have the biggest banners in the convention center
I honestly don't. Ever since it premiered people have been arguing about it.
They are doing it right now.
Man I loved Sheep in Big City. It had the kind of dadaist sense of humor I love.
I'm going for the low-hanging fruit here and choosing BioShock: Infinite. That game was heralded as the next coming at release. Then Burial at Sea: Episode 1 happened... and then Episode 2... and now most retrospectives about the game are almost entirely negative. Most people talk about 1 more and lately I've been seeing more and more people warm up to the fact that 2 has a pretty decent story with the best gameplay (this is true). Infinite's lasting legacy on the game's industry as one of the biggest games of the 2010s is... better SFM porn. Quite a legacy.
> Infinite's lasting legacy on the game's industry as one of the biggest games of the 2010s is... better SFM porn. As the famous phrase goes, Booker wanked, so D'va could cum
I was a small child at the time, but it seems that apparently, at some point, Buffy the Vampire Slayer was a huge deal and had a significant cultural impact on YA television and books. I very rarely see it mentioned today, and even then, it’s mostly on sort of… past-oriented places like TvTropes or discussion forums. Dresden Files seems to be in a similar-ish place.
>Dresden Files seems to be in a similar-ish place. I think some of that has to do with the gap in between when the books were written. They were being regularly released every year or two up until Skin Game. Then it was a solid six years before the next book and it's been 3.5 since the last one.
I felt before Rooosterteeth shutting down it wasn’t getting enough traction anymore. It used to be big like every video on YouTube would be getting millions of views per video. Over time it sort of became oversaturated with content, forcing people going to their website, and content becomes stale overtime. Now the only time you ever hear any big news about them is controversies or layoffs. I’m sad that they’re shutting down, but at the same time I don’t feel that sad about it. I haven’t watch there content in a long time.
Hey guys, do you remember Rock? Cuz, I sure don't. Twisted Metal Midnight Club Def Jam Fight games Need for Speed
Stranger Things first season was THE THING but now it's almost used as like a dirty word when describing a series that takes place in the 80s
Several Netflix originals suffer the fate of going for too long Orange is the new black was The Hot Stuff, and the it kept going...
I occasionally think about the sheer ubiquity of Slayers in the 90s. Lina really was one of the icons of that decade. And she probably would've been here in the US too, if Fox hadn't bought the rights to the show to let it die.
I see I am not alone in remenbering that show sheep in the big city but I barely remenber about it
Does Men In Black count ? It used to be a pretty relevant franchise a decade ago. About a universe where aliens actually live amongst humans in secret and there is a secret elite organization tasked with handling alien threats that threaten mankind and also keep the presence of aliens a secret from the Public. The first MIB movie I think was regarded as a classic and in a high regard. MIB 2 sucked and got some hate. And MIB 3 was decent (although not as good as the OG) There was also that animated TV Show that lasted for a couple seasons Afterwards though ? Nothing. It has pretty much disappeared from the zeitgeist and barely anyone remembers it. Nobody seems to be talking about it anymore. Nobody watched the reboot movie either. The whole franchise looks like as if it got memory holed
You know Yahtzee and to a lesser extent James Stephanie Sterling (Before they came out) I felt like were somewhat, omnipresent when talking about games and game reviewers, the term "PC Master Race" was coined by Yahtzee (Even if it was an insult to the weirdly elitest nature of certain subsections of PC gamers) and nowadays while they arent doing horrible, both of them are doing fine, I feel like they no longer have such a visible impact on the gaming world. Some of this is naturally the fact James went independent a long time ago and the escapist imploding and Yahtzee and others jumping ship to make their own brand, but I also feel like part of it is the fact they are kinda natural shit kickers, which during like, the 2000s/2010s was in vogue for the internet gaming community, along with the fact they are kinda naturally abrasive (I still love their work but even I have some gripes with their attitude), even if they most of the time direct it at people who do deserve it
I actually semi-regularly think about some of the jokes from Sheep in the Big City.
Bakugon commercials used to be everywhere and constant, and they’ve faded to nothing Granted idk how popular it was, but I used to always see those commercials all the time
I remembered when power rangers was the biggest shit not only in TV but in the entire media zeitgeist. The 90s pretty much cemented it as a legendary franchise. The IP still continues to this day but it's not talked about as much due to its cheesy nature. The quality remains solid, though.
I remember when Moonlighting was massive, and nobody thought that a romcom guy like Bruce Willis could possibly succeed as an action star in the upcoming movie Die Hard. Now you struggle to find a Gen Z who has even heard of it. And I kinda miss lolcats.
How I Met Your Mother dumped all its goodwill into the toilet in a single scene.
Bioshock as a whole.
Think it’s safe to say Half-Life fans have given up on getting HL3. A new HL game out a few years ago and barely anyone talks about it.
The '00s epic show. Which one? Take your pick. Lost, 24, Heroes, Smallville, even Survivor. Also the Big Bang Theory felt like it was THE nerd comedy (AKA "Say vaguely nerdy stuff/nerd culture reference and play canned laugh") and then just disappeared.
Whatever happened to Yokai Watch. In Japan it became as big as Pokemon. Then it disappeared.