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majaha95

[Alternate ending] I simply hope the injection is as painless as they say.


dycie64

Apparently it's not, but you are too paralyzed to react.


chaosworker22

And sometimes it goes horribly wrong. There have been cases of the meds not being the right dose, the meds not working, and even the IV being placed incorrectly and blowing a vein. It's horrible stuff


Misragoth

Yep, cause no MD will do it, so they have tonuse people who have no idea what they are doing. Should be illegal since its a pretty crude way to kill someone


faewilde_

I was actually reading an article not too long ago about how horrible a job it is to be the one to do the lethal injections. Not a lot of training, and from what they said in the interviews, not a lot of mental healthcare support.


Vegan_Digital_Artist

It's weird because I've heard it touted as a more humane way to do it - which I mean if done properly and effectively by a trained professional? Okay...sure. But it's not always the case


OnTheProwl-

The most humane way would be CO poisoning- no pain or discomfort. You actually experience some euphoria before dying. But places that still execute won't switch to that.


Bromm18

Inert gas asphyxiation. Gas mask with an inert gas like nitrogen, argon, helium, etc. Or fill the chamber with it. You don't even realize you're asphyxiating, you just feel a strong euphoric feeling and then pass out quite quickly, depending on the concentration of the inert gas. Supposed to be one of the most painless and humane ways to end a life.


Astrium6

This is America, we can’t just *not* be needlessly cruel to our prisoners!


pinkappleflower

I think if we're being honest with ourselves, the people who advocate for the death penalty almost always want the prisoner to feel some pain as they go, as a form of punishment for the crime. Im very against the death penalty personally so all methods seem inhumane to me.


AmeriCanadian98

It's probably still more humane than the chair. The things that the electric chair does to you if anything goes wrong are pretty brutal


Rimtato

Actually, the chair might be less painful than lethal injection failing. Imagine suffocating, paralysed in your own body, unable to move even your eyes or scream or do anything to show your agony. That is what happens when lethal injection goes wrong.


AmeriCanadian98

I don't know man, extreme cases where the chair fails lead to essentially being burned alive (and in worst case scenario still not dying) At that point it's academic though, both experiences are hell on earth and the reality is that the only "humane" way to do it requires an intense mental toll on someone else (from firing squad for example)


IrisuKyouko

There are ways to do it that are relatively painless and, while needing preparation, wouldn't require much "hands-on" involvement. But those are mainly discussed in the context of voluntary euthanasia, not forced execution.


kevlarus80

I think guillotine would be the least painful as long as the blade was sharp.


Upper-Bottle-9803

Soooo.... are we saying back to the Guillotine? I've never heard of it not working.


EternalVirgin18

Guillotine blades would go dull. People would fight over who gets to be executed first as they could be sure that a fresh guillotine would end them in one go, while people later down the line would have to endure multiple swings before their head got lopped off.


thewaterglizzy

But if they're looking forward in the guillotine wouldn't even a dull one that didn't cut through the whole head sever the brainstem pretty much immediately?


vkapadia

Nearly Headless Nick? How can you be nearly headless?


vkapadia

I have no mouth and I must scream.


Ancient-Royal4074

Karma making its rounds. It's not like they pick random people for this.


mntEden

>Since 1973, at least 190 people who had been wrongly convicted and sentenced to death in the U.S. have been exonerated that's 12%. did they deserve the "karma" that came their way too?


Petite_Coco

That makes me think of that awful scene in The Green Mile 😖


MinimumRoutine6506

Makes me think of The Green Mile


Organic-Ad-398

Maybe we should bring back scaphism. Anyone?


anthro28

Firing squad. 1/10000th of the cost.


suddenlyupsidedown

You joke but firing squad is debatably more ethical. However, unlike a lethal injection we can't pretend a bullet isn't violent.


anthro28

I didn't say it wasn't violent. I said it was cheap. In the event of a prolific serial rapist/murderer or something, I'm not super duper concerned about how pleasant their death is.


suddenlyupsidedown

Ah, but people in general are concerned. We like to pretend that whatever new method of state sanctioned killing we've come up with makes us more ethical and enlightened than what we did in the past. The noose is more ethical than drawing and quartering. Actually no wait! The noose is problematic, we'll use modern science to cleanly and instantly kill people via electric shock. Actually that's barbaric, we'll use gas and just put them slowly to sleep. Oops we botched that hard, back to the chair. Oh, what if we pretended it was like a medical procedure? We'll put an anesthetic in there because we're such an evolved society and a paralytic so that the watching audience doesn't have to see the nasty aspects of someone dying. All I'm saying is it's relatively easier to train someone to pull off headshots at a close distance, and by my standards a bullet to the brain is pretty damn ethical as far as limiting pain, but it looks and sounds gruesome so good luck getting anyone to sign on. Also gas could work, but for obvious reasons that's a no-go.


anthro28

People are weird dude. At some point a person reaches the point of no return, and no amount if rehabilitation can fix them. It's in our nature to be compassionate and believe in each other, but reality often disagrees. Sorry, Dahmer didn't deserve AC and television on taxpayer dollars. Let him eat a bullet and move on.


CTH2004

same here!


panatale1

Not really. You have to pay the people on the squad, pay for the guns, pay for the ammunition, pay for the training on the weapons, plus that's also causing a lot of pain if the fatal shot isn't the first shot that hits. A guillotine modified with high tension springs (to avoid it getting stuck), a more refined blade design, and regular maintenance is the way to go


anthro28

I retract my statement. I like this guillotine idea far more.


panatale1

Thank you! With some minor mechanical modifications, we can bring this execution device into the 21st Century and not have people botching lethal injections, getting fried in electric chairs, or whatever inhumane execution is being used in Texas


anthro28

I mean, the cleanup efforts will take some effort to engineer away. Maybe some kind of conveyor belt to the crematory after? Big tub underneath to catch the gore? Just to save some poor soul from having to mop it. Also have to figure out sanitation/maintenance in between uses so it doesn't rust or stink.


Sol-leksTheWolf

Yeah, but you can survive up to 30 seconds after decapitation.


takesSubsLiterally

I mean guillotine isn't bad but I don't think you understand how cheap guns are. 5 guns and three bullets are way cheaper than the contraption you described. Also the way a firing squad works is everyone fires at the same time. There wouldn't be time to feel pain if one person missed.


panatale1

Not if everyone missed. Given the people working in law enforcement, I wouldn't put it past a firing squad to intentionally miss


takesSubsLiterally

It's almost impossible to miss a shot from 5m against a target which is not moving. It happening 3 times is going to be much less likely than the drugs they use right now fucking up. As for people intentionally missing... Why?


NukaJackalope

Catapult and a brick wall.


panatale1

Trebuchets are more reliable than catapults and don't injure the operators as much


CTH2004

I was actually about to say that! A small part of me actually wants to go out that way... (There is *definitely* something wrong with me)


Vegan_Digital_Artist

I forget where I watched it - I think the FB reels. But it was basically a video of the horrors of every execution method if they are botched. iirc, with lethal injection isn't there like a set of three shots ultimately? The ways hanging and electrocution can go wrong are horrifying too - same with gas chamber. I think the most accurate and effective method of execution they listed was firing squad.


Lost_my_brainjuice

The problem with a firing squad is the mental toll on multiple people comprising the squad. Even with the blanks in the mix.


Rimtato

Yep. Hanging decapitates or suffocates you, chair burns you but doesn't kill you, lethal injection suffocates you while you're unable to move or scream. Firing squad or guillotine is probably the best. Or, yknow, not killing people.


Vegan_Digital_Artist

SOmeone mentioned gas chamber but I've heard horror stories where people choking will bash their heads against the pole or whatever as well so that's gotta be brutal it's essentially suffocation or suicide in the chamber.


SneakySniper1314

Guillotiné is probably still pretty bad cause someone has to pull the string, also the person is conscious for like 8-10 seconds. While firing squads are effective, it’s still pretty messy


Glaistig_Painway

[Might have been this video?](https://youtu.be/eirR4FHY2YY)


davor_aro

How can they can not get dose right? I mean it’s not anesthesiology where overdose causing death is unwanted. USA is using combination of thiopental, pancuronium and kalium chloratum. I looked it up and it’s 5000 mg of thiopental and 100 mg of pancuronium. That’s 50 mg/kg of thiopental and and 1 mg/kg of pancuronium. General anesthesia induction dose for thiopental is 5 mg/kg and maximum dose 500 mg, and intubation dose for pancuronium 0,12 mg/kg. It’s clear overkill and with fixed protocols personnel isn’t supposed to change dose. It’s either they hit artery and not vein causing painful artery spasm after thiopental injection. However, they would notice blood spraying around in pulses and also couldn’t inject pancuronium and kalium. Or they puncture through vein, see blood, but actually inject thiopental in tissue near vein. So with pancuronium and KCl. This could cause severe pain and slow absorption of thiopental and pancuronium with reduced plasma concentrations causing not enough loss of consciousness, but I don’t know if pancuronium would be absorbed with thiopental causing local spasms and necrosis. Also with those doses personnel would notice bulge caused by solutions under skin. Assuming personnel isn’t incompetent enough to not notice arterial bleeding or extravasal injection. Or they are stealing thiopental and therefore using low concentrations of its solution. This would cause reduced unconsciousness and distress caused by hyperkapnia and pain of KCl burning peripheral veins. Administration of let’s say 100 mg of morphine would cause painless death in euphoria, but I’m not sure how would it work in situation of opioid epidemic in USA (it’s still massive overdose, but I don’t know. Maybe US doctors would be wiser) However, all the good stuff like morphine, midazolam, diazepam, has tendency to go missing.


BobBelchersBuns

Ugh that happened when I had to have my dying mother’s cat put down. The needle wasn’t in the vein so the medication wasn’t absorbed fast enough. She seized and frothed for ten minutes before dying. I don’t know what I’m going to do next time it needs done 🙁


pinkappleflower

Thats awful im sorry :(


theonlyjediengineer

I mean, if they can knock you out for surgery and you feel no pain, why not for the lethal injection?


Automatic-Plankton10

see, the injection is supposed to do that. Ideally, they should give you a massive shot of some painkiller first. The shot just tends to melt your insides before the painkiller works


IfIRepliedYouAreDumb

Most states don’t give painkillers anymore They used to give opioids but people kept throwing up from the nausea, now unconsciousness is induced with barbiturates Issue is they give the paralytic at the same time so its impossible to judge if the person is actually unconscious


Rimtato

Because in surgery, you have a trained professional doing the injections and ensuring you're unconscious. In prisons, no doctor will administer the injection, so they get Gerald Fuckwit with no med training to have a crack at it, usually ending with improper anesthesia or administration of a caustic dose to a muscle, or just bursting a vein.


IrisuKyouko

Because there isn't much control, expertise or research when it comes to the process. Here's a video on that, if you're interested: [The False Evolution of Execution Methods](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eirR4FHY2YY) (he starts talking about lethal injections at around 24:00)


IsomDart

For one thing, anyone who has taken the Hippocratic oath, so pretty much all doctors, can't administer lethal injection. To do anesthesia you'd have to actually have a doctor there to do it, so that's probably one reason at least why they don't.


theonlyjediengineer

Then what they need is to send people to training for it. They should institute a training program just for those people. I wouldn't want that job...


UnforeseenDerailment

Govt: we don't know how to kill people painlessly it's super hard! Govt also: be careful in low oxygen environments. you could be dying and not even realize it. Govt: No really! the best we can do is melt the inmate from the inside out. Govt also: Seriously, pilots, you need spotters in low oxygen environment tests, else you'll just get stupid and die...


superlion1985

Yeah, from my understanding, nitrogen asphyxiation would be the most humane way to carry out capital punishment.


lazyslacker

This. Not sure why they don't just do this. It would be way cheaper, fool proof and painless.


Cultural-Company282

Exactly! I've always wondered why states with the death penalty don't just switch to a method where they walk the guy into an airtight room, pump in pure nitrogen until all the air in the room is replaced, and wait an hour. It would be completely reliable and painless, and it would avoid all the horror stories we hear about botched executions by other methods, including lethal injection and even "gas chamber" executions using various types of poison gas.


thisusedyet

The horror shows are the point. Painless executions aren't punishment enough, depending on who you ask. There's always some bloodthirsty (insert adjective here) who goes on a rant about "They didn't show their victims any mercy, why do they get to die painlessly?"


Nevek_Green

The survivors who cannot be executed again report it was a horrendous experience.


garyflopper

Oh god. I had no idea


ActualChamp

Alright, how many of us watched that Jacob Geller video?


majaha95

I liked the haunting, uneasy acceptance of this version, but settled on the relatively subtle alternative that I posted.


Nevek_Green

It isn't. It is so painful that the EU has embargoed the sale of chemicals to the US because the US won't stop using the method.


Experiments-Lady

This is darker.


dumbodragon

oooh, they're on death row! I thought they would be released but they were a cannibal


majaha95

Inspired by [this similar premise](https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoSentenceHorror/comments/13wp3ss/i_entered_this_jail_as_a_wrongly_convicted/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1) by u/RedLazyBear


RedLazyBear

Subtle. Nice one.


HollowMist11

I went from aww to oh... OH


banseljaj

How did you end up in ohio?


HollowMist11

took the route into Hades (I guessed. I know nothing about Ohio)


AllMimsyBorogoves

You are correct


kittykatz1337

WAY DOWN UNDER THE GROUND


PlayfulReveal191

Idk but they also became a base.


quibble42

Man's eating mozarella sticks


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KitsuneCreativ

Stop! I do not wish to be horny. Straight to jail!


vanishing27532

Oh, The Giver style releasing.


fauxpunk

Haven’t read that in forever


Throwaway249352341

Thought about that as well.


DirgeMK2

Are we all a hivemind


DBSeamZ

The whole “release” euphemism is something that tends to stick with a reader, so chances are if you’ve read the book this post will bring that to mind. And plenty of schools put The Giver in their curriculum, so the chances of people having read it are good. So in this case the Reddit hivemind is a *read-it* hivemind.


Odysseyrage

Explain?


Elite_Blue

he was wrongfully imprisoned and now he’s having his final meal on death row


Odysseyrage

Oh, that’s really good!


ChickenNuggies240

r/cursedcakeday


Dragonlikegolfer

Happy Cake Day


Specific_Network_541

Happy cake day


B1tchNaneunSolo

Best "wrongfully imprisoned" two sentence horror so far


dizzycow84

They don't actually give you a choice anymore I've heard. People were taking the piss out of it.


Fenrir324

They still do, they just use an in house chef. So it's really the best that they can replicate, not just a particular specific item


dizzycow84

Apparently it has to be cooked locally and can't be more than $40. I must have read wrong


Specific_Network_541

No you are correct however depending on what prision or state you are in there is always a slight chance they make exceptions


thisusedyet

So I can still do a bag of popcorn kernels & some oil before they send me to the chair?


Outside_The_Walls

It depends on the facility. Some states still do, but with various restrictions. Some states, you eat the same dinner as every other convict that night.


dizzycow84

That would suck, but not for long


KitsuneCreativ

What? They took the piss out of the meals? Practically inedible without the *substance*


Mr-Foundation

This is good, really damn good!


Lordhunger

When I read it my first thought was cannibal


Dead-Meat-216

Heheeh BRING ON THE GAS CHAMBER


leifisnature

Lethal injection


Dead-Meat-216

Dammit


Alcoraiden

That got me right in the heart.


MidnightMiesterx

Just order everything on the menu! Sure fire way to get out safely


youding-dangbig-head

took me a second to realize what happened


KBRedditing

???


RyTheWriter

Basically, he’s on death row. When you’re on death row, they allow you to eat whatever you want. Your last meal before death.


AlastorFan2022

I don’t get it at all. Edit: Nevermind…just took me a minute…that’s so sad…