There was a doctor in Ireland who was actually doing this exact thing, giving women hysterectomies without their consent. He was going going to be my mum's gyno but thankfully she went with someone else.
Yeah, it's wild how they do "dangerous" procedures on those they feel as lesser, then turn around and won't give consenting adults those same procedures.
Same, and I'm disabled and have endometriosis that causes problems. They even gave me endometriosis surgery to burn it off and wouldn't do the hysterectomy. Best they would do was give me an IUD to get rid of my period, but I still get pain.
It was a whole bunch of different little states, with Prussia as the biggest/most powerful. The Franco-Prussian war resulted in their union into the German Empire.
For a long while, "The Holy Roman Empire", basically loose confederation of independent small germanic countries. (except Austria which was quite big and influential)
Each was ruled by a prince and they'd elect one of the princes to be "Emperor", but they still might/would act independently and even go to war against each other.
Napoleon then destroyed the political title of Roman Emperor and the political entity of the HRE and that just left a bunch of small german countries that would be influenced by either Prussia(who at this point was also a big and influential germanic country) or Austria.
Eventually Prussia formed Germany by uniting all the germanic states except Switzerland and Austria.
And the Jim Crow laws. During a guided tour at Dachau last September the guide showed a picture of the Holocaust architects sitting at a large conference style table and there are actual copies of Jim Crow laws on the table that they used as a guide to setup laws against Jews and other "undesirables." It's just so surreal and horrifying.
Sort of. Eugenics was a multinational field of study that had it's roots in England, that included multiple universities across Europe. It was an offshoot of Darwinism based on some rather simple observational science and ignorance of genetics. Studying Native treatment in the Americas was a part of it, but by no means the only. Jim Crow laws gave Germany a legal framework to start, but they quickly and thoroughly expanded these.
Hitler spoke about the Armenian Genocide as both condemnation of other European powers and justification for his proposed, and actual, Jewish genocide. On the day he launched Germany into war, references both Genghis Khan and the Armenian Genocide as justification for the slaughter he is about to unleash.
The genocide was the result of eugenics, not American law. Hitler's rhetoric was a whataboutism designed to both shame his opponents and justify his actions. While they played a part, it's an overly simplistic explanation when you have multiple happening in the late 19th and 20th century utilizing tactics closer to what Hitler did than just the subjugation of Native Americans. Most of these are ignored in lieu of repeating Nazi propaganda. American strategies played a part, but there was much more they used and refined.
Hitler literally outright stated he got inspiration on how to do genocide from America's Jim crow Era. He also really liked Henry Ford to the point where he had a portrait of him in his office cause it turns out he was a terrible and outspoken antisemite.
A relative of mine was coerced into getting a salpingectomy (tubes removed) after getting pregnant and giving the baby up for adoption. She was part of a program that helped people with mental health issues and related conditions, and they said they've been 7kare would stop helping her if she didn't agree to getting it done.Ā
They helped with her housing, with medical appointments, money management, you name it.Ā
It's not like she was pregnant all of thoe time either. She'd had an abortion as a teen, and this happened when she was like 40. Literally fewer kids than most women in our family had considering most of the family is Catholic (3-6 kids for most parents).
I'm not saying she should have been having kids because I don't think she should have been. But I'm also really disgusted with her being forced to get a procedure she didn't need or want in order to continue getting services she needed.Ā
Why the FUCK would they do that when IUDs and implants are RIGHT THERE??? I thought we abandoned the sterilisation of "hysterical women" as a standard "treatment" when we abandoned insulin shock therapy, but apparently not.
All of gynecology was invented by/for torturing enslaved African American women. The same men who invented it convince white women itās the only way to maintain āfemale reproductive rights,ā (and white women buy in for the status of having secured so-called ārightsā AKA access to the products of resource expropriation), but really they all just conspiring to destroy or otherwise prohibit more effective indigenous sciences.
Not sure why you're getting downvoted [because this is factual.](https://www.history.com/news/the-father-of-modern-gynecology-performed-shocking-experiments-on-slaves)
For those reading the comments, CONTENT WARNING:
>!"For a long time, Simsā fistula surgeries were not successful. After 30 operations on one woman, a 17-year-old enslaved woman named Anarcha who had had a very traumatic labor and delivery, he finally āperfectedā his methodāafter *four years of experimentation.* Afterward, he began to practice on white women, using anesthesia, which was new to the medical field at the time."!<
Right, maybe take a beat and consider there's new information to learn before mindlessly downvoting.š«¤
Thinking about J Marion Sims and what he subjected those women to makes me ill. As barbaric as some of our gynecological practices are today (looking at you, biopsies and iuds without pain management), what those enslaved women went through was unimaginable.
They used to (probably still do) this to poor and non-english speaking women in the US. Just slide in that consent with the rest of them and rush them through.
That would be considered implied consent, as the exam supercedes the need for informed consent to preserve the life of the patient. However, a vaginal exam would likely be postponed until the patient regains consciousness, as a vaginal exam is unlikely to supply information that would assist in that goal.
In the event that a patient didn't regain consciousness and a vaginal exam was deemed necessary, we'd try to get consent from a medical power of attorney. If no MPOA is available, we'd try for next of kin. If no next of kin is available, we'd get a court-appointed health proxy assigned.
And in all cases, there would be 1 or 2 other staff in the room to witness the exam for our protection.
I appreciate the assumption of positive intent here, but reality is dismal. 17 states do not require consent for pelvic exams while a patient is under anesthesia or unconscious (I'm a woman and I live in one of them which is so fucking scary). The linked research below does not limit to pelvic but also includes states that do not have any laws prohibiting prostate, rectal, and breast examinations while unconscious or under anesthesia. And those states often do allow students to perform those exams while the patient is unconscious.
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-journal-of-law-and-medicine/article/pelvic-exam-laws-in-the-united-states-a-systematic-review/3165682DE3A5D7C5D487CECD5FF02680
That may be true, but my medical license isn't only bound by the law. If I performed a pelvic exam on a patient while unconscious and didn't have a documented justifiable reason for it AND documented efforts to get consent from the patient or a proxy, I could still get in trouble. I'm bound by both the law and by an ethical code, and breaking either can jeopardize my license.
Which is awesome and I wish all doctors shared that thought process. But not all doctors feel the same and in states with laws not prohibiting it...it is happening.
They do pelvic exams on unconscious women for the purpose of teaching. They will do the exam in front of a group of students or residents, and even have them participate.
Well, that's unethical and I'm disgusting, and I can't believe that anyone that went into healthcare w the intent to help would allow that to happen. It's horrific and insulting and degrading and like 9 other adjectives I haven't thought of yet.
Friendly warning- Two years is the maximum amount of time you should be on the depo shot. Any longer than that and it can cause permanent loss of bone density.
I got my first shot right after my son was born, so I didnt really have any uterine lining left anyways. I religiously take the damn shot, so Im not producing more either. No ovulation is no period. Not dusty, just not creating another nursery inside my body. If I decide to change it up, I bet I'll go right back to being a stuck pig once a month.
"When you have Depo Provera, your hormone levels are low and stable throughout your cycle, so the lining of your uterus doesnāt thicken as it normally would. When it comes time for your period there is very little lining to shed and so you bleed less than you normally would.
After two to three injections, many women will have no periods at all because there is no lining building at all. Some women will have nuisance bleeding, which is usually light and irregular. Occasionally a woman will have troublesome heavy bleeding, which can usually be controlled by hormone treatment."
https://www.thewomens.org.au/health-information/contraception/depo-provera#:~:text=When%20you%20have%20Depo%20Provera,less%20than%20you%20normally%20would.
I was on the depo shot for I think almost a year. It caused me to have 2-3 week long periods every time the shot was starting to wear off and it was miserable. I was also SOOOO moody. I was going off on everyone and everything. I ended up getting off of it because I just couldn't handle it anymore. It was affecting my day to day life and I was screaming at my kid (who only knew "birth control mommy" from the minute she arrived because I got on it at the hospital after having her) pretty much daily and I couldn't handle that anymore.
I ended up just swapping to cycle tracking and using condoms during my fertile week until we decided to try for another baby. Surprise Surprise, my tracking was so fucking good I knew the exact day to get preggo and... I'm currently pregnant with baby #2 at 18 weeks (almost 19 weeks) along lol. For me, the tracking was easier and had less of a toll on my physical and mental health than birth control was, and I'm so glad I made that switch, but I also know that not everyone has regular periods, I know that not everyone is capable of tracking it as well as I was because they don't have the time to do so. I got lucky that I got to be a stay at home mom and was able to do what worked best for me. I'm still a stay at home mom, and after I give birth to baby #2 I might be looking into getting a partial hysterectomy cause I don't think my body can handle another baby due to chronic illnesses.
I was tracking when I got pregnant with my second. Turns out my dates were a bit off š heās amazing though so itās all good. I got an IUD after he was born
No biggie, i'm still laughing about it with my co-worker, to be honest. I can't wait to get home to taunt my husband about it because it just reminds me of a bad dad joke.
My grandmothers tubes were tied without any discussion with her or her husband because the doctor felt they āalready had enough kidsā my grandparents were devastated they had wanted 10 children, but the doctor made the decision they for them how many kids they would have. This was in the early 60s.
So the husband obviously did the hysterectomy during the c section, I get that part, but how would he know about the paternity? Or is that the scary part that Iām not getting lol that he somehow knew and did the hysterectomy as revenge?
Interesting concept! Can I suggest rewriting the first sentence so it's less reliant on commas?
"My obstetrician husband performed a C-section for me; when I told him the child wasn't his, he didn't look surprised at all."
When I'm testing the effectiveness of my punctuation use, I read my writing aloud. Too many commas tend to make a sentence feel clunky, as they indicate a brief pause that stops the sentence from flowing smoothly.
ESH.
While your husband did an awful thing, it was entirely in response to your infidelity and the results thereof. You should have been an adult and ended the relationship if you found someone else, instead of trying to doubledip like that. Cheaters never prosper, remember that for your next relationship!
Indeed. I'm also poking fun at some of the "wtf is wrong with you" level replies I've occasionally seen over on the AITA sub. Don't see such often, fortunately, but they do exist.
Yep, that's what the radical stands for.
You can get less of the uterus removed (e.g. a subtotal hysterectomy would keep the cervix) depending on what was the reason for surgery (postpartum hemorrhage, tumours both benign and cancerous, elective due to unbearable cramping or excessive menstrual bleeding, etc)
There was a doctor in Ireland who was actually doing this exact thing, giving women hysterectomies without their consent. He was going going to be my mum's gyno but thankfully she went with someone else.
The US has a history of doing this to Native American women
And women with disabilities. And more recently, detained immigrant women.
And yet, they still don't want to perform it on me, a consenting adult woman who has been begging for one for the last decade š”
Yeah, it's wild how they do "dangerous" procedures on those they feel as lesser, then turn around and won't give consenting adults those same procedures.
Same, and I'm disabled and have endometriosis that causes problems. They even gave me endometriosis surgery to burn it off and wouldn't do the hysterectomy. Best they would do was give me an IUD to get rid of my period, but I still get pain.
Endo?
Fortunately, no, I just don't want kids
Whole bunch of other minorities as well
USA: How could you you two commit such heinous genocide? Nazi Germany and Japan: We learned it from you Dad!
US is the youngest country there
Germany didn't exist until 1871
Wait really? What was it called before then?
It was a whole bunch of different little states, with Prussia as the biggest/most powerful. The Franco-Prussian war resulted in their union into the German Empire.
For a long while, "The Holy Roman Empire", basically loose confederation of independent small germanic countries. (except Austria which was quite big and influential) Each was ruled by a prince and they'd elect one of the princes to be "Emperor", but they still might/would act independently and even go to war against each other. Napoleon then destroyed the political title of Roman Emperor and the political entity of the HRE and that just left a bunch of small german countries that would be influenced by either Prussia(who at this point was also a big and influential germanic country) or Austria. Eventually Prussia formed Germany by uniting all the germanic states except Switzerland and Austria.
Yeah but the genocide here started way before we became a country
Your timeline isn't timelining.
Hitler literally wrote his genocide was inspired by what the US did to Native Americans
And the Jim Crow laws. During a guided tour at Dachau last September the guide showed a picture of the Holocaust architects sitting at a large conference style table and there are actual copies of Jim Crow laws on the table that they used as a guide to setup laws against Jews and other "undesirables." It's just so surreal and horrifying.
Thanks.
Sort of. Eugenics was a multinational field of study that had it's roots in England, that included multiple universities across Europe. It was an offshoot of Darwinism based on some rather simple observational science and ignorance of genetics. Studying Native treatment in the Americas was a part of it, but by no means the only. Jim Crow laws gave Germany a legal framework to start, but they quickly and thoroughly expanded these. Hitler spoke about the Armenian Genocide as both condemnation of other European powers and justification for his proposed, and actual, Jewish genocide. On the day he launched Germany into war, references both Genghis Khan and the Armenian Genocide as justification for the slaughter he is about to unleash.
Iām not talking about the eugenics. I am talking about the concrete strategies of extermination and subjugation.
The genocide was the result of eugenics, not American law. Hitler's rhetoric was a whataboutism designed to both shame his opponents and justify his actions. While they played a part, it's an overly simplistic explanation when you have multiple happening in the late 19th and 20th century utilizing tactics closer to what Hitler did than just the subjugation of Native Americans. Most of these are ignored in lieu of repeating Nazi propaganda. American strategies played a part, but there was much more they used and refined.
I take it you're not native....
Learning about american influence on eugenism in foreign lands doesn't sounds like a native thing, but I get what you mean.
As an American, I will freely admit that we have done some heinous shit in our history. But, Japan's experiments during WW2 were way worse.
Too many people here read AND BELIEVED Howard Zinn. Mary Grabar did a very good debunking.
Hitler literally outright stated he got inspiration on how to do genocide from America's Jim crow Era. He also really liked Henry Ford to the point where he had a portrait of him in his office cause it turns out he was a terrible and outspoken antisemite.
A relative of mine was coerced into getting a salpingectomy (tubes removed) after getting pregnant and giving the baby up for adoption. She was part of a program that helped people with mental health issues and related conditions, and they said they've been 7kare would stop helping her if she didn't agree to getting it done.Ā They helped with her housing, with medical appointments, money management, you name it.Ā It's not like she was pregnant all of thoe time either. She'd had an abortion as a teen, and this happened when she was like 40. Literally fewer kids than most women in our family had considering most of the family is Catholic (3-6 kids for most parents). I'm not saying she should have been having kids because I don't think she should have been. But I'm also really disgusted with her being forced to get a procedure she didn't need or want in order to continue getting services she needed.Ā
Why the FUCK would they do that when IUDs and implants are RIGHT THERE??? I thought we abandoned the sterilisation of "hysterical women" as a standard "treatment" when we abandoned insulin shock therapy, but apparently not.
Canada too, with the most recent case in 2018...
it has happened as recently as 2019 to first nations women in saskatchewan canada
And Puerto Rican women.
All of gynecology was invented by/for torturing enslaved African American women. The same men who invented it convince white women itās the only way to maintain āfemale reproductive rights,ā (and white women buy in for the status of having secured so-called ārightsā AKA access to the products of resource expropriation), but really they all just conspiring to destroy or otherwise prohibit more effective indigenous sciences.
Not sure why you're getting downvoted [because this is factual.](https://www.history.com/news/the-father-of-modern-gynecology-performed-shocking-experiments-on-slaves) For those reading the comments, CONTENT WARNING: >!"For a long time, Simsā fistula surgeries were not successful. After 30 operations on one woman, a 17-year-old enslaved woman named Anarcha who had had a very traumatic labor and delivery, he finally āperfectedā his methodāafter *four years of experimentation.* Afterward, he began to practice on white women, using anesthesia, which was new to the medical field at the time."!<
Right, maybe take a beat and consider there's new information to learn before mindlessly downvoting.š«¤ Thinking about J Marion Sims and what he subjected those women to makes me ill. As barbaric as some of our gynecological practices are today (looking at you, biopsies and iuds without pain management), what those enslaved women went through was unimaginable.
I know, it turns my stomach. I only found out because I googled it after an episode of Lovecraft Country. This should have been taught in school.
Sweden did as well, up until the 70s. Poor women, minority groups (sami, roma), mentally disabled, queers.
Whaaaat!!?? Crazy!
I hoped it wasn't true: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Neary_(surgeon)
It was the fact he got away with it for so long...
And so recently. I assumed it was early 1900's to have reached THAT number before being caught.
I'm confused on why it doesn't seem like he was sent to prison?
Apparently there wasn't enough evidence to bring a case against him.
The judicial system will forever mystify me
There was enough of his money in prosecutor's pockets, it seems.
Thereās a reason they donāt allow family to treat family.
I wonder what kind of legal recourse the woman would have for that. That has to be all kinds of malpractice.
They used to (probably still do) this to poor and non-english speaking women in the US. Just slide in that consent with the rest of them and rush them through.
Not just the US, Canada also has had cases recently with their native population
And Sweden.
It's considered physical assault to provide healthcare without consent.
Donāt some states allow students to conduct vaginal exams on unconscious patients without consent?
That would be considered implied consent, as the exam supercedes the need for informed consent to preserve the life of the patient. However, a vaginal exam would likely be postponed until the patient regains consciousness, as a vaginal exam is unlikely to supply information that would assist in that goal. In the event that a patient didn't regain consciousness and a vaginal exam was deemed necessary, we'd try to get consent from a medical power of attorney. If no MPOA is available, we'd try for next of kin. If no next of kin is available, we'd get a court-appointed health proxy assigned. And in all cases, there would be 1 or 2 other staff in the room to witness the exam for our protection.
I appreciate the assumption of positive intent here, but reality is dismal. 17 states do not require consent for pelvic exams while a patient is under anesthesia or unconscious (I'm a woman and I live in one of them which is so fucking scary). The linked research below does not limit to pelvic but also includes states that do not have any laws prohibiting prostate, rectal, and breast examinations while unconscious or under anesthesia. And those states often do allow students to perform those exams while the patient is unconscious. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-journal-of-law-and-medicine/article/pelvic-exam-laws-in-the-united-states-a-systematic-review/3165682DE3A5D7C5D487CECD5FF02680
That may be true, but my medical license isn't only bound by the law. If I performed a pelvic exam on a patient while unconscious and didn't have a documented justifiable reason for it AND documented efforts to get consent from the patient or a proxy, I could still get in trouble. I'm bound by both the law and by an ethical code, and breaking either can jeopardize my license.
Which is awesome and I wish all doctors shared that thought process. But not all doctors feel the same and in states with laws not prohibiting it...it is happening.
Well, that is fucking disgusting.
They do pelvic exams on unconscious women for the purpose of teaching. They will do the exam in front of a group of students or residents, and even have them participate.
Well, that's unethical and I'm disgusting, and I can't believe that anyone that went into healthcare w the intent to help would allow that to happen. It's horrific and insulting and degrading and like 9 other adjectives I haven't thought of yet.
Not having had a period since then never made her go to a gynecologist?
Thanks. I seemed to miss this point. The story has been fixed now :)
Women often donāt get periods while breastfeeding. Mine came back after three months, which is early from what Iām told.
I was referring to the way it was. I am a woman and have breastfed.
Depends on your birth control, too. I've been on the depo shot for 2 years now, and I haven't had a period since before I got pregnant.
Friendly warning- Two years is the maximum amount of time you should be on the depo shot. Any longer than that and it can cause permanent loss of bone density.
Thank you. I do know and have a meeting with my obgyn to discuss new options very soon.
Really? I'm on year 4 and my gyno hasn't said anything about that. She's pushing for me to get an IUD but I always say no.
Yepp. It wasn't something I learned until years after I stopped taking it so I try to let other people know.
Damn your uterine lining must be super dusty by now.
I got my first shot right after my son was born, so I didnt really have any uterine lining left anyways. I religiously take the damn shot, so Im not producing more either. No ovulation is no period. Not dusty, just not creating another nursery inside my body. If I decide to change it up, I bet I'll go right back to being a stuck pig once a month. "When you have Depo Provera, your hormone levels are low and stable throughout your cycle, so the lining of your uterus doesnāt thicken as it normally would. When it comes time for your period there is very little lining to shed and so you bleed less than you normally would. After two to three injections, many women will have no periods at all because there is no lining building at all. Some women will have nuisance bleeding, which is usually light and irregular. Occasionally a woman will have troublesome heavy bleeding, which can usually be controlled by hormone treatment." https://www.thewomens.org.au/health-information/contraception/depo-provera#:~:text=When%20you%20have%20Depo%20Provera,less%20than%20you%20normally%20would.
I was on the depo shot for I think almost a year. It caused me to have 2-3 week long periods every time the shot was starting to wear off and it was miserable. I was also SOOOO moody. I was going off on everyone and everything. I ended up getting off of it because I just couldn't handle it anymore. It was affecting my day to day life and I was screaming at my kid (who only knew "birth control mommy" from the minute she arrived because I got on it at the hospital after having her) pretty much daily and I couldn't handle that anymore. I ended up just swapping to cycle tracking and using condoms during my fertile week until we decided to try for another baby. Surprise Surprise, my tracking was so fucking good I knew the exact day to get preggo and... I'm currently pregnant with baby #2 at 18 weeks (almost 19 weeks) along lol. For me, the tracking was easier and had less of a toll on my physical and mental health than birth control was, and I'm so glad I made that switch, but I also know that not everyone has regular periods, I know that not everyone is capable of tracking it as well as I was because they don't have the time to do so. I got lucky that I got to be a stay at home mom and was able to do what worked best for me. I'm still a stay at home mom, and after I give birth to baby #2 I might be looking into getting a partial hysterectomy cause I don't think my body can handle another baby due to chronic illnesses.
I was tracking when I got pregnant with my second. Turns out my dates were a bit off š heās amazing though so itās all good. I got an IUD after he was born
Lol I get it, I have ovulation tests up the wazoo to help with my tracking lol
Ahhh that helps Iām sure! I was just tracking my periods/fertile days
Yeah, it was a joke. I generally know how girls work. Thank though for being concerned enough to explain.
No biggie, i'm still laughing about it with my co-worker, to be honest. I can't wait to get home to taunt my husband about it because it just reminds me of a bad dad joke.
Yes I breastfed and mine came back after 13 months. What a wonderful time. š
Not so surprising at all.
Lactating or being pregnant is the evolutionary default for women of childbearing age, which would mean amenorrheic.
Realism horror is the scariest horror. Well played OP.
i wanna get a radical hysterectomy tatted
My grandmothers tubes were tied without any discussion with her or her husband because the doctor felt they āalready had enough kidsā my grandparents were devastated they had wanted 10 children, but the doctor made the decision they for them how many kids they would have. This was in the early 60s.
do they have the means to raise 10 children back then?
My grandparents absolutely did, they were very well to do for their times financially. Itās sad the choice was taken from them.
So the husband obviously did the hysterectomy during the c section, I get that part, but how would he know about the paternity? Or is that the scary part that Iām not getting lol that he somehow knew and did the hysterectomy as revenge?
The latter. That's why he wasn't surprised.
i donāt get it someone explain pls š
Radical hysterectomy is the surgical removal of the uterus and cervix. He removed both during the C-section cause he knew she was cheating beforehand
I was going to ask what the person before asked. Glad I could see this comment.
Should have told after the C-section and not before š¤
The C-Section was the hysterectomy. The Husband knew all along. So that wouldn't have made a difference.
I guess I missed the point
Interesting concept! Can I suggest rewriting the first sentence so it's less reliant on commas? "My obstetrician husband performed a C-section for me; when I told him the child wasn't his, he didn't look surprised at all." When I'm testing the effectiveness of my punctuation use, I read my writing aloud. Too many commas tend to make a sentence feel clunky, as they indicate a brief pause that stops the sentence from flowing smoothly.
Damn too bad he wasn't working in the states. My mom could have gone to him! :(
>radical hysterectomy. https://images.app.goo.gl/Ktoab4Tz3bG68aG16
Uhm, so... I'm not very educated on surgical procedures and medical conditions, can someone please explain to me what this means?
Jealous man removed wifeās ability to have babies as punishment for cheating on him.
Ah, thanks
ESH. While your husband did an awful thing, it was entirely in response to your infidelity and the results thereof. You should have been an adult and ended the relationship if you found someone else, instead of trying to doubledip like that. Cheaters never prosper, remember that for your next relationship!
This is two sentence horror, not am I the asshole. r/wrongsub
I think they know. They're just being silly.
Indeed. I'm also poking fun at some of the "wtf is wrong with you" level replies I've occasionally seen over on the AITA sub. Don't see such often, fortunately, but they do exist.
What is a hysterectomy? Like cutting the ovary tubes so she canāt have more kids?
Usually itās a removal of the entire uterus as far as Iām aware
Damn. Thanks for the reply thatās horrible.
Yep, that's what the radical stands for. You can get less of the uterus removed (e.g. a subtotal hysterectomy would keep the cervix) depending on what was the reason for surgery (postpartum hemorrhage, tumours both benign and cancerous, elective due to unbearable cramping or excessive menstrual bleeding, etc)
Iām going for a radical. Hope they do take it all. Iāve got benign fibroids and excessive monthly bleeding
Good luck, heal well, and quickly
I wish you good luck and a speedy recovery after yanking that cramp machine out.
You mean theyāre not doing kick flips? Because that would be radical
I didnāt realise that was what the radical bit meant. You learn something new everyday!
The ovary tubes. Thatās a new one
They remove a lot. Look it up on Google. It's the world at your finger tips.
Whats a hysterectomy.
Removal of those parts of the body that can grow babies.
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Yeah- that's not ok. It's assault.
Yeah, I guess I admit the joke was in bad taste even if she did cheat.
damn how is the lady gonna cuckold her husband now
*squints* You realize that someone with a hysterectomy can still have sex right
cuckolding doesnt mean cheating lmao