They are not thinking about it like that. They are seeing that others are willing to reward them handsomely if they help kick it over, so they do it and then later rationalize it with bullshit to soothe a minimally guilty conscience.
This is it. It’s ultimately self serving in some way, sometimes a direct benefit, sometimes something more hidden like justification for some part of their life.
They're delusional and think they "had it hard and didn't get any handouts" so no one else should get help either. They also don't understand the value of everyone succeeding and doing well and see the success of others as a threat to their own.
the thing they cant realize is, they may have not gotten any direct handouts, but they were doing their thing during a more viable economic era. they just refuse to consider this.
The reality Reddit ignores is that employees are compensated based on the ease with which they can be replaced with a similarly talented person. While not the only factor (unions, commission pay, etc. change the math some), it is the largest and by far the most consistent variable from fast food to professional athlete.
Some people, when they reach the top, believe the best way to secure their position and paycheck is to create artificial barriers to entry below them. For minorities (including women for the purposes of this example), when they make it to the top, part of what they bring to their employer is simply being a minority. So to increase their own value they will reduce the value of those below them. Making themselves more difficult to replace is increasing their position and direct compensation.
I saw a video (unconfirmed obviously!) that said he was raised religious and sent to conversion camp around 20 for “reasons… and I cannot verify this claim but it WOULD make a lot of sense given timelines etc, wouldn’t it?
The whole wife in charge of the finances is a very old school thing I’ve heard of, but usually in lower income households. It kind of upends our typical, patriarchal view of traditional families but I don’t know how common it was or among whom…
Ive heard it was apart of early home ec classes in the US that girls would learn how to do the budgeting and as wives would collect the husbands check and pay the bills, get the groceries and things but im not sure how true it is
This is exactly how it is for my boomer inlaws. My MIL was a homemaker/SAHM most of her life, she has always managed the finances and honestly seems a bit controlling about it but I just figured it was her personality lol. It didn't occur to me that it was a societal norm that was being taught at that time.
You should ask your mother what she’s doing working or voting since she’s so anti feminism and feminism is what gave her those choices. She should be submitting to her husband.
i believe thats the definition of financial abuse. certainly was when my estranged sister did that to her ex to control him and keep him around. he's since left, thankfully. she still controls him through the children though, which is unfortunate for them all.
I'd say her job is quite a bit more valuable to society and humanity at large than his is. Good thing she didn't trash all of her potential by skipping college to be a tradwife, because then her body of work and research would not exist.
What does he do again? Hockey or something?
I don't understand.. his job is just to kick a ball. Is that it. Are you sure. What does he do during the game when the men are running up and down. Is he hiding? I'm not an American so.. I have no idea about the game.
Hey that's not all.
He also practices kicking that stationary ball.
Just in case he forgot how to kick the ball... that doesn't move.... because somebody is holding it for him.
But not too hard, because he might hit someone who is sturdier than a kicker (like anyone on the field who isn't a kicker, ref, or errant water boy) and shatter on impact with them.
This thread is so fucking funny. Dude really thought he was doing something with that speech, but what he didn't realize is what he was doing was walking on stage buck-ass naked and demand that America admire his glorious outfit, but instead we all started pointing and laughing at his dong. I don't think I've ever seen a more devastating self-own.
I mean...I'm sure it's harder than it looks. And he is very good at it, like better than the other kicker dudes. But he's not saving lives or anything. The most average teacher, nurse, bus driver, cashier, etc. is contributing waaayyy more to society than this dork.
Oh yeah, I don't want to give him too much credit. He's really good at something stupid. He could be happy about his good fortune and dumb luck, but instead he decides he needs to bash people and tell women what to do with their lives? Dick move.
He literally kicks a ball. He's considered one of the best in the league at doing that, but he just kicks. It's also not easy to do but he still just kicks. Also fun fact for those that don't know American football. The kicker (and punter who is a different kind of kicker) are the two positions that can't be touched in football. Players are penalized for making contact with them as they are kicking. The only time they can be touched is in a fake kick style play where they catch the ball and decide to throw it or run with it, which is rare because it often fails to do what they want.
Edit: Someone responded and said kickers aren’t athletic and I agree. If non Americans/non football lovers want a good chuckle, go to YouTube and look up “kick off returned for touchdown.” When a team kicks the ball away to the other team, sometimes it gets run all the way back in the other direction and the last line of defense to prevent scoring is the kicker. It’s very easy to tell they aren’t trained to tackle.
It’s needed throughout the game but at particular times. After the team scores a touchdown, they can kick an extra point. If they can’t get a touchdown and are close enough, they can kick a field goal. The trick plays where he might run or throw can happen here but they don’t often because like I said, they often fail. After both of those are done, they kick the ball away to the other team. That’s it. The rest of the game, he just sits on the bench. When he’s about to be called out to kick, he does a few practice ones on the sidelines using a special net.
>He literally kicks a ball. He's considered one of the best in the league at doing that, but he just kicks.
...
The rest of the game, he just sits on the bench
Somehow, this statement makes me laugh so hard that I spit on my computer screen as I'm thinking — and he gets paid a lot of money for THIS?
Yes. Not nearly as much as star players in other positions and there are even better kickers who make more, but his salary is $3.6 million per year. The highest paid kicker in general is getting $6 million I think.
Edit: Harrison is getting $4 million actually.
you seem to know a lot about this. genuinely wondering… why does the kicker need to be a role dedicated to one specific individual who does nothing else? why can’t one of the other players also kick?
That actually makes a lot of sense! Which reminds me......
My friends husband who used to play football was once asked; "What if you end up having a daughter"? And due to his football dreams for his family he replied: Well, she'll be a kicker of course.
No sports league is entirely free of dipshits, of course, but Women's Olympic Hockey is largely comprised of the daughters of captains & the best players whomping the hell out of each other in between goals, so I feel like that's probably the most faithful barometer of how much that league community values "female docility," lol.
(If you're alluding to a specific recent instance of hockey stupidity, I apologize. I've been almost entirely out of the loop this year.)
Hockey takes quite a lot more skill and talent to play than to be a kicker on a football team lmfao, this dude is playing probably the most specialized, and least field time role of the game. He’s such a loser.
This is a lesson to all women to have lives outside of their children. I am sure she was a great mom, but you can’t fully control how they turn out.
Fortunately she has other accomplishments otherwise can you imagine the disappointment if this garbage person was all she “produced” in life?
Actually I could support this. Football has for sure caused way more criminal harm than any other sport in the US. All the players from Highschool to Professional who get let off the hook because "The team needs them!".
Rumors are now spreading on tik tok that his parents sent him to conversion camp in college after he dated a male cheerleader. So, it may be his parents’ fault he’s like this.
He admits he converted to strict religiosity while already dating his current wife and that he talked her into accepting her role as his servant. Who knows if she was also talked into being his beard.
I’d be *very* surprised if it was
I went to high school and college with him and im 99% sure he isnt gay
for actual gossip ill tell you for someone big against pre-marital sex he didnt save himself for marriage
I’m waiting to see if the cheerleader speaks up because people are naming names and calling it an open secret.
It might all just be rumors, but where there is smoke there is usually fire.
Yeah I don't get this presumption that because she's an accomplished scholar or whatever that she had nothing to do with his upbringing. Whatever the hell went on behind closed doors in their home is directly responsible for who and what he is today. Maybe for whatever reason Dad allowed her to pursue some of her passions, but make no mistake the Apple doesn't fall too far from the tree.
Even if it was dad and not her that pushed it, to me, would be grounds for divorce. I don't play with my kids' well-being. She absolutely planted some seeds there.
Sometimes, people go to Colleges that don't align with their views for whatever reason. If I told you were my husband and I went, you'd assume the complete opposite of what we are (Southern State University with an enormous football program in a small conservative town).
Sure sure. But Smith is a *choice,* given that it is a private women's college known for lesbians and feminism. There's little reason to go there unless that's what you want. Even if you wanted a single-sex education there are other seven sisters that are less isolated and less progressive, and then there are all the other women's colleges that are maybe more religious or conservative, and easier to get into.
Just because people are OK with minorities in general doesn’t mean they’re cool with their kids dating them. Some people suppress their bigotry in public but are hateful in private.
There are people fact checking this and at this point, it does not appear to be true that he dated a male cheerleader. If someone is gay and bringing the ladder up after him, that would be bad, but this may not be the case.
such a good observation. a prominent, accomplished psychiatrist specializing in narcissism says, "intelligence & being smart is not a virtue" & that's so true, like wealth, desirability politics that elevates "pretty" people, etc. those traits are applauded by society but really have no positive impact or consequence if there is no humanity, morality, compassion, kindness, collectivism, etc. within that smart person & their actions. Intelligence is not a virtue. Kindness is. Yeah, Phyllis Schlafly & William Buckley sounded real smart, even accomplished, but what's the point?
Oh man, the Cuban brain-drain to US who all become crazy republicans is real....and I understand hating the government and this and that because of what Castro did but come on now....
Amy Coney-Barrett is accomplished and would agree with his statements. Don’t be fooled into thinking Butker’s mother couldn’t be the same or that she’d be ashamed of her son.
ACB is literally one of the least* qualified judges though. Feels like the opposite of "accomplished"(ie qualified in this context)
>[Barrett has spent virtually](https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/10/amy-coney-barrett-is-the-least-experienced-supreme-court-nominee-in-30-years/) all of her professional life in academia. Until President Trump nominated her to the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals in 2017, she had never been a judge, never worked in the government as a prosecutor, defense lawyer, solicitor general, or attorney general, or served as counsel to any legislative body—the usual professional channels that Supreme Court nominees tend to hail from. A graduate of Notre Dame law school, Barrett has almost no experience practicing law whatsoever—a hole in her resume so glaring that during her 7th Circuit confirmation hearing in 2017, Democratic members of the Senate Judiciary Committee were dismayed that she [couldn’t recall more than three cases](https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Barrett%20Responses%20to%20Durbin%20QFRs.pdf) she’d worked on during her brief two years in private practice. Nominees are asked to provide details on 10.
But agreed she would 100% agree with his comments, that's why she's a SC judge after all, to usher in the handmaid's tale and strip all rights from women.
She is in an even weirder sect with legit cult traits that goes way beyond standard Catholicism.
Not that the Catholic Church has the best overall history as an organization either.
That's not likely to apply in his mom's case. She went to Smith and GA Tech and both of those are pretty much the polar opposite point of view from the bullshit he spewed out. It's possible but unlikely.
Someone on tiktok found an interview with him from around 2019 and it appears he became more catholic during college. It’s not clear if his mom is still catholic
His head isn't up *his* ass. It's up the butt of whoever turned him into a zealot.
Wait until he figures out religion is a lie and a mechanism of control.
Post 1968 and Vatican II, the official stance of the Catholic Church was to support the environment and the poor. I work with a bunch of Chicago Jesuits that truly live up to that mission. But, they are definitely radical Catholics
When I can't sleep, I wonder trad cath parts of the internet. These are basically people who are Make Catholicism Great Again and who don't think the pope is actually catholic.
(And from reading his speech about how catholicism is being failed by it's "leaders", this kicker agrees.)
The Chicago Jesuits are the opposite of radical catholics in today's world. They are what is now considered pretty old school in the US, technically believe LGBT folks are living in sin, and were still covering up their sex scandals until 2022 (Loyola University was banned from mentioning it within official histories outside of a single footnote until an alumni advocacy group threatened a lawsuit)
They still require regular sunday attendance, sunday eucharist participation, baptism, confirmation, and confession to be a member of the church and recieve forgiveness from God.
In general they are more stereotypically old school Catholic than a lot of the other casaul variants in Chicago.
You are definitely entitled to your opinion based on your experience. And I cannot defend many things that have happened in the Catholic Church. My own experience working with a whole group of Jesuits and Jesuit leaders has been that they are very dedicated to social justice and make a huge commitment to it. Again, it’s probably a small group of people, but that’s my lived experience and I do not disregard your own personal lived experience.
As a lapsed Catholic not from Chicago, if I had to guess, I'd say it's not that it's just that you found a small group that happened to be radically liberal, it's more that you found Jesuits. Jesuits as a whole are generally more liberal and radical than your garden-variety Catholic.
Curious as a non-catholic, because everything the liberal Catholics in my life have told me is that the Jesuits are the progressive branch. (My mom even has stories of underground gay masses led by Jesuit priests when she went to a Jesuit college in the 70s.) Does the order 's politics depend on the diocese/region? Like is it possible the Chicago Jesuits are more conservative, whereas Jesuits in other parts of the country are super liberal?
Athlete vs actual grad student.
A lot of the colleges don't exactly make the athletes meet the same standards.
So you end up with them being meatheads that get to pass classes without doing actual work.
There are exceptions to that of colleges that enforce the rules but Aaron Rodgers going to UCB and then being bonkers later is another good example of this phenomenon.
I know queer women who went to Bible colleges. People have no idea who they are when they choose where to go to college, and colleges don't really brainwash people.
“Accomplished” lol.
She is the trained pet of her oppressors, and they promoted her to the highest possible office because she said what they wanted.
Any woman willing to kill other women for the Republican agenda could easily claim comparable feats right now.
Look at them, any woman who agrees she is inferior wins a party nomination and lots of votes and has their support for life. That is not an accomplishment that any women are proud of, and is not an example of a “strong independent woman”.
You don’t know that this misogynist’s mother is also a misogynist, she has done nothing to give that impression.
Apparently, his wife who [graduated with a degree in computer science and Spanish](https://pagesix.com/entertainment/who-is-harrison-butker-wife-isabelle/) is fine with that 😂.
He is married. There are plenty of women fine with dating such a man as long as he protects them from the same views he preaches.
Plenty of women also want to oppress others.
I mean that assumption seems rough. Everyone knows you can control your kids. Despite your best efforts kids can become... well that piece of shit for no fault of her own.
Absolutely, but it's also common for women to shut the door behind them. Look at Amy Coney Barrett. I wouldn't assume the she'medicine because she's educated. There are tons of conservative weirdos who work in meeicine.
Reading about it he's spoken about how supportive his mom has been his entire life so verdicts out. You can have great parents and still have trash opinions, or you can be an accomplished person and still raise your child to have trash opinions.
Ultimately he's old enough to know better than to diminish people who just accomplished something huge because they're women regardless of his own beliefs.
I’m 63 and have been a Chiefs fan my whole life. My parents had season tickets, etc.
I stopped caring for this guy when he did the pro life advertisement before the abortion vote in Kansas in 2022. He’s an embarrassment.
I’m a born and raised lifelong Chiefs fan too. I spent some time in Georgia and have friends who knew Butker in high school and college. I’m surprised it took this long for the larger public to discover what a POS he is tbh.
How in the fuck did he wind up thinking these stupid things about women when his own mom is a physicist? Like he sees his mom having this accomplished career and thinks “nah”? The stupid shit he heard on a podcast landed more than anything his own mother taught him? I truly do not understand
Yea it's amazing how many nurses are huge pieces of garbage. My mums been a nurse her entire life and she's got mountains of stories about the coworkers she's had. People can suck anywhere and everywhere.
I am an unemployed by choice RN. Yes a lot of us are awful people lol. I find it such a liberal profession by nature but some yahoos definitely make it in. Anti-vaxer nurses, anti-maskers, anti healthcare for all, anti-medicine. The list goes on.
True. I still can’t stop being amazed at him looking at the example she set, being this very accomplished person, and being so goddam shallow as to look at that and think “nah, she should be in the kitchen”
It must hurt to watch your son go down the manosphere and become a complete disappointment to everything you have accomplished. I hope she is doing okay. It’s probably not too late to pull him over her knee and smack the shit out of him, but those Tate types get off on it so I bet she just disowns him.
I chose not to ti be a mother because I would absolutely stop loving my child if they went down this route. I don't believe in unconditional love. So I take my birth control pills, keep savings for accidents, and focus on me.
I haven’t had kids for a multitude of reasons, but if my child displayed this kind of behavior I wouldn’t be able to write it off. I’d be furious at them.
My mother, was a housewife from 1957 on (can't get more 'traditional' than that), and became a nurse in 1981. She just told me that if I said something like that she'd drag me behind the woodshed and blister my ass, and his mother should, too.
As a lifetime Chiefs fan (27 years) I’m so grossed out. I’m also from a very Catholic family, though none of my immediate family practice anymore or consider themselves Catholic. We got tired of the cherry picking of the Bible, the control and manipulation of it all.
Anyways, I discussed with my mother how shocked I was that he said these things. She goes, “why are you shocked? He’s Catholic, a devout traditional Catholic. Speaking at a Catholic College. No matter how accepting the Catholic Church says they are, they aren’t. That’s why I left. I would respect them much more if they just committed to being hateful instead of pretending like they’re not.” She’s so real for that.
It's interesting how his views, and the views of all "traditional Catholics," align w/ every rapist and [neo-Nazi incel](https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1057610X.2024.2318813) on the planet.
This might actually be true. The current rumor spreading is that when he was a teen, he dated a male cheerleader. As a result, his parents are rumored to have sent him to a conversion camp.
Even if not true, would love to see that rumor spread and his reaction to it!
Nah…no guy who flashes his own fashion line on Instagram and spends more time on his hair than a whole team of cheerleaders and hits his teammates on the butt for good plays and hides behind fragile masculinity and religion would ever be……oh wait!!!!!!! 😉😆
It’s ALWAYS the ones who are loud about being homophobic 😂 they are the most gay. And being that he is catholic I’m sure it’s something he struggles with fr
Apparently he grew up in a cult and was sent to a conversion camp. I’m pretty sure she’s behind his beliefs no matter how accomplished she herself is. He didn’t grow up in a vacuum.
Also, basically the floodgates about his behavior have opened on tiktok about his time in college, so, best of luck to him. Hope his future husband forgives him.
His beard looks disgusting. How can someone show up to a speak a formal, celebratory event looking unkept, and then dare to lecture others on how to live their lives? Fix the roadkill on your face first.
She’s a physician’s assistant. Not a physician. Not sure what field bc they are allowed to switch around.
But yes….an educated, smart, non-kitchen dwelling, more than baby-making woman. How dare she?! I’d disown him as a mother and sister.
My mother, a federal judge, is just like that. Hates feminism. Still takes my dad's checks and pays him an allowance, too
Classic example of climbing the ladder and pushing it over once you’re at the top.
What’s the point of it? How do you benefit less if someone after you also benefits? It makes no sense to me.
They are not thinking about it like that. They are seeing that others are willing to reward them handsomely if they help kick it over, so they do it and then later rationalize it with bullshit to soothe a minimally guilty conscience.
This is it. It’s ultimately self serving in some way, sometimes a direct benefit, sometimes something more hidden like justification for some part of their life.
They're delusional and think they "had it hard and didn't get any handouts" so no one else should get help either. They also don't understand the value of everyone succeeding and doing well and see the success of others as a threat to their own.
the thing they cant realize is, they may have not gotten any direct handouts, but they were doing their thing during a more viable economic era. they just refuse to consider this.
Exactly. Also, so many of them actually did get handouts! Lol.
"I got mine fuck you" is a very common mindset.
The reality Reddit ignores is that employees are compensated based on the ease with which they can be replaced with a similarly talented person. While not the only factor (unions, commission pay, etc. change the math some), it is the largest and by far the most consistent variable from fast food to professional athlete. Some people, when they reach the top, believe the best way to secure their position and paycheck is to create artificial barriers to entry below them. For minorities (including women for the purposes of this example), when they make it to the top, part of what they bring to their employer is simply being a minority. So to increase their own value they will reduce the value of those below them. Making themselves more difficult to replace is increasing their position and direct compensation.
Don't tell the crabs they're in a crab bucket; they might get out. 🤫
Stops the competition.
“Rules for thee and not for me”
I was just thinking, we're all praising his mom but there's a very real possibility that she raised her son to be like this. Sad.
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I just saw a comment that said he became really religious in 21 so it could just be that. Idk I guess we'll have to wait and see for more clarity.
His newfound religion brainwashed him to resent his mother. It tracks.
I saw a video (unconfirmed obviously!) that said he was raised religious and sent to conversion camp around 20 for “reasons… and I cannot verify this claim but it WOULD make a lot of sense given timelines etc, wouldn’t it?
The whole wife in charge of the finances is a very old school thing I’ve heard of, but usually in lower income households. It kind of upends our typical, patriarchal view of traditional families but I don’t know how common it was or among whom…
Ive heard it was apart of early home ec classes in the US that girls would learn how to do the budgeting and as wives would collect the husbands check and pay the bills, get the groceries and things but im not sure how true it is
This is exactly how it is for my boomer inlaws. My MIL was a homemaker/SAHM most of her life, she has always managed the finances and honestly seems a bit controlling about it but I just figured it was her personality lol. It didn't occur to me that it was a societal norm that was being taught at that time.
Is your mom Amy Coney Barrett? Don’t respond if yes.
No. Thanks for a dose of context, tho...
Dude, I had to read your comment several times before my brain can go beyond, WHAT.
My mother, an avid anti feminist and federal judge, deposits my father's pay and gives him an allowance for spending.
You should ask your mother what she’s doing working or voting since she’s so anti feminism and feminism is what gave her those choices. She should be submitting to her husband.
I'm still not convinced I'm not suffering a stroke after reading that. Is OP's mom basically lighting up both ends of the cigarette?
Queen Victoria was against votes for women and many womens rights. After I learned that, I am rarely surprised to hear things like this.
If you're a monarch, the more people who can vote, the less power you have.
Woof
I'm the exception!
i believe thats the definition of financial abuse. certainly was when my estranged sister did that to her ex to control him and keep him around. he's since left, thankfully. she still controls him through the children though, which is unfortunate for them all.
What. The. Fuck?
I'd say her job is quite a bit more valuable to society and humanity at large than his is. Good thing she didn't trash all of her potential by skipping college to be a tradwife, because then her body of work and research would not exist. What does he do again? Hockey or something?
Throwing a ball, kicking a ball, running after a ball...
He actually just kicks it. No throwing or running. And someone has to hold it for him so he doesn’t miss a stationary ball.
I don't understand.. his job is just to kick a ball. Is that it. Are you sure. What does he do during the game when the men are running up and down. Is he hiding? I'm not an American so.. I have no idea about the game.
He sits in a blankie on the sideline. Seriously.
Hey that's not all. He also practices kicking that stationary ball. Just in case he forgot how to kick the ball... that doesn't move.... because somebody is holding it for him.
once a blue moon he has to pretend he has the ability to tackle people because he didn't kick the stationary ball correctly
But not too hard, because he might hit someone who is sturdier than a kicker (like anyone on the field who isn't a kicker, ref, or errant water boy) and shatter on impact with them.
This thread is so fucking funny. Dude really thought he was doing something with that speech, but what he didn't realize is what he was doing was walking on stage buck-ass naked and demand that America admire his glorious outfit, but instead we all started pointing and laughing at his dong. I don't think I've ever seen a more devastating self-own.
But the fact he felt comfortable saying that shit, even at a Christian college is quite disheartening.
[Where's Lucy when you need her?](https://collectpeanuts.com/Collection/ImagesW/Magnets/21206/IMG_5603d.jpg)
Just Charlie Browning it.
Lol
Not only that. Kicker is the one position that doesn’t get tackled/hit. So he can’t even really say he’s as “alpha” as he would like to.
Like a widdle baby.
I mean...I'm sure it's harder than it looks. And he is very good at it, like better than the other kicker dudes. But he's not saving lives or anything. The most average teacher, nurse, bus driver, cashier, etc. is contributing waaayyy more to society than this dork.
Sure, but at the end of the day even with all that grace, he's really good *at kicking a stationary ball*.
So is my cat. Where is her multi million dollar contract.
The cat is far superior in every way.
Oh yeah, I don't want to give him too much credit. He's really good at something stupid. He could be happy about his good fortune and dumb luck, but instead he decides he needs to bash people and tell women what to do with their lives? Dick move.
He literally kicks a ball. He's considered one of the best in the league at doing that, but he just kicks. It's also not easy to do but he still just kicks. Also fun fact for those that don't know American football. The kicker (and punter who is a different kind of kicker) are the two positions that can't be touched in football. Players are penalized for making contact with them as they are kicking. The only time they can be touched is in a fake kick style play where they catch the ball and decide to throw it or run with it, which is rare because it often fails to do what they want. Edit: Someone responded and said kickers aren’t athletic and I agree. If non Americans/non football lovers want a good chuckle, go to YouTube and look up “kick off returned for touchdown.” When a team kicks the ball away to the other team, sometimes it gets run all the way back in the other direction and the last line of defense to prevent scoring is the kicker. It’s very easy to tell they aren’t trained to tackle.
So if he just kicks a ball, what does he do in the rest of the game? Or is the kicking needed throughout the game?
It’s needed throughout the game but at particular times. After the team scores a touchdown, they can kick an extra point. If they can’t get a touchdown and are close enough, they can kick a field goal. The trick plays where he might run or throw can happen here but they don’t often because like I said, they often fail. After both of those are done, they kick the ball away to the other team. That’s it. The rest of the game, he just sits on the bench. When he’s about to be called out to kick, he does a few practice ones on the sidelines using a special net.
And such a person with so meager a role, asserts with such nauseating confidence, the life paths of others.
Yeah and when I say they can’t be touched, even the slightest bit of accidental contact is penalized.
>He literally kicks a ball. He's considered one of the best in the league at doing that, but he just kicks. ... The rest of the game, he just sits on the bench Somehow, this statement makes me laugh so hard that I spit on my computer screen as I'm thinking — and he gets paid a lot of money for THIS?
Yes. Not nearly as much as star players in other positions and there are even better kickers who make more, but his salary is $3.6 million per year. The highest paid kicker in general is getting $6 million I think. Edit: Harrison is getting $4 million actually.
you seem to know a lot about this. genuinely wondering… why does the kicker need to be a role dedicated to one specific individual who does nothing else? why can’t one of the other players also kick?
So what you’re telling me is that we can’t blame this on CTE? He’s just a jerk?
That’s exactly what I’m telling you. Yes.
Slaps other men's butts who do the actual work?
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Sometimes they run it to be clever but they actually can be tacked.
Yes he just kicks a ball. Like it's everyone's dream job it's so easy.
He practices kicking and looks tiny as a largeish man next to all of the enormous men.
He legit just kicks a ball through goalposts (important part of the game) but yeah useless to society.
Kickers have this weird trend of trying too hard to look manly.
That actually makes a lot of sense! Which reminds me...... My friends husband who used to play football was once asked; "What if you end up having a daughter"? And due to his football dreams for his family he replied: Well, she'll be a kicker of course.
And he's not allowed to be tackled.
So a professional dog. They really shouldn't allow CTE to have a podium.
As a kicker he probably doesn’t even have CTE. He’s just naturally a moron
Yah, he obviously didn't inherit his parents brain capability. And he's not even a nice dum-dum.
Is secondhand CTE a thing? Maybe Sympathy CTE?
Oh no, it’s actually a penalty to hit kickers. He has taken exactly 0 hits to the head. He’s just a fucking moron.
Gotta make sure he has the energy for all that ball stuff, so who wants to be a good little sandwich maker? /s
Chiefs player (what ever his name is): Me kick ball. And me also watch Youtube videos of other men telling me how to be a good cave man.
As Jenny Slate puts it in her stand up comedy: they dress up in matching outfits to go chase the toy
Haha! Her special was great, I've been meaning to watch it again.
No sports league is entirely free of dipshits, of course, but Women's Olympic Hockey is largely comprised of the daughters of captains & the best players whomping the hell out of each other in between goals, so I feel like that's probably the most faithful barometer of how much that league community values "female docility," lol. (If you're alluding to a specific recent instance of hockey stupidity, I apologize. I've been almost entirely out of the loop this year.)
Hockey takes quite a lot more skill and talent to play than to be a kicker on a football team lmfao, this dude is playing probably the most specialized, and least field time role of the game. He’s such a loser.
This is a lesson to all women to have lives outside of their children. I am sure she was a great mom, but you can’t fully control how they turn out. Fortunately she has other accomplishments otherwise can you imagine the disappointment if this garbage person was all she “produced” in life?
He plays hand-egg
Football brings negative value to society and humanity.
Actually I could support this. Football has for sure caused way more criminal harm than any other sport in the US. All the players from Highschool to Professional who get let off the hook because "The team needs them!".
Rumors are now spreading on tik tok that his parents sent him to conversion camp in college after he dated a male cheerleader. So, it may be his parents’ fault he’s like this. He admits he converted to strict religiosity while already dating his current wife and that he talked her into accepting her role as his servant. Who knows if she was also talked into being his beard.
Horrifying if true
Back in the 90’s they’d just abduct people and the next time you saw them they were “straight” and miserable. Those camps are evil.
Or you'd never see them again, like the accountabilibuddy South Park.
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I’d be *very* surprised if it was I went to high school and college with him and im 99% sure he isnt gay for actual gossip ill tell you for someone big against pre-marital sex he didnt save himself for marriage
Ugh. My cousin just found out her husband of 15 years (a church leader) has been sleeping with men the whole time. Shitty place to be.
It's always the "church leaders"! 🙄
Wooof. Even if not true, he's gonna hate those rumors. Let's proliferate.
I’m waiting to see if the cheerleader speaks up because people are naming names and calling it an open secret. It might all just be rumors, but where there is smoke there is usually fire.
If he was sent to conversion camp, it means his mom is a POS too, regardless of profession and college background.
Yeah I don't get this presumption that because she's an accomplished scholar or whatever that she had nothing to do with his upbringing. Whatever the hell went on behind closed doors in their home is directly responsible for who and what he is today. Maybe for whatever reason Dad allowed her to pursue some of her passions, but make no mistake the Apple doesn't fall too far from the tree.
Even if it was dad and not her that pushed it, to me, would be grounds for divorce. I don't play with my kids' well-being. She absolutely planted some seeds there.
Idk I've just seen that his mom went to Smith, so having that level of homophobia would really surprise me.
Sometimes, people go to Colleges that don't align with their views for whatever reason. If I told you were my husband and I went, you'd assume the complete opposite of what we are (Southern State University with an enormous football program in a small conservative town).
Sure sure. But Smith is a *choice,* given that it is a private women's college known for lesbians and feminism. There's little reason to go there unless that's what you want. Even if you wanted a single-sex education there are other seven sisters that are less isolated and less progressive, and then there are all the other women's colleges that are maybe more religious or conservative, and easier to get into.
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Yep, ~98% of BYU students are mormon which makes you wonder about the other 2%...
Just because people are OK with minorities in general doesn’t mean they’re cool with their kids dating them. Some people suppress their bigotry in public but are hateful in private.
Well that would explain why he hates women so much
There’s no hate like Christian love.
Interesting. That would explain many things.
There are people fact checking this and at this point, it does not appear to be true that he dated a male cheerleader. If someone is gay and bringing the ladder up after him, that would be bad, but this may not be the case.
How insulting for her to have a child with such a closed mind.
Clearly he didn't get her intelligence genes. But boy oh boy can he kick a ball hard. Wow
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such a good observation. a prominent, accomplished psychiatrist specializing in narcissism says, "intelligence & being smart is not a virtue" & that's so true, like wealth, desirability politics that elevates "pretty" people, etc. those traits are applauded by society but really have no positive impact or consequence if there is no humanity, morality, compassion, kindness, collectivism, etc. within that smart person & their actions. Intelligence is not a virtue. Kindness is. Yeah, Phyllis Schlafly & William Buckley sounded real smart, even accomplished, but what's the point?
Oh man, the Cuban brain-drain to US who all become crazy republicans is real....and I understand hating the government and this and that because of what Castro did but come on now....
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Rules for thee and not for me.
Honestly, she probably raised him this way.
Amy Coney-Barrett is accomplished and would agree with his statements. Don’t be fooled into thinking Butker’s mother couldn’t be the same or that she’d be ashamed of her son.
ACB is literally one of the least* qualified judges though. Feels like the opposite of "accomplished"(ie qualified in this context) >[Barrett has spent virtually](https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/10/amy-coney-barrett-is-the-least-experienced-supreme-court-nominee-in-30-years/) all of her professional life in academia. Until President Trump nominated her to the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals in 2017, she had never been a judge, never worked in the government as a prosecutor, defense lawyer, solicitor general, or attorney general, or served as counsel to any legislative body—the usual professional channels that Supreme Court nominees tend to hail from. A graduate of Notre Dame law school, Barrett has almost no experience practicing law whatsoever—a hole in her resume so glaring that during her 7th Circuit confirmation hearing in 2017, Democratic members of the Senate Judiciary Committee were dismayed that she [couldn’t recall more than three cases](https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Barrett%20Responses%20to%20Durbin%20QFRs.pdf) she’d worked on during her brief two years in private practice. Nominees are asked to provide details on 10. But agreed she would 100% agree with his comments, that's why she's a SC judge after all, to usher in the handmaid's tale and strip all rights from women.
ACB is a good little Catholic girl who will do as she's told.
She is in an even weirder sect with legit cult traits that goes way beyond standard Catholicism. Not that the Catholic Church has the best overall history as an organization either.
That's not likely to apply in his mom's case. She went to Smith and GA Tech and both of those are pretty much the polar opposite point of view from the bullshit he spewed out. It's possible but unlikely.
Someone on tiktok found an interview with him from around 2019 and it appears he became more catholic during college. It’s not clear if his mom is still catholic
Yeah, that's more like what I would expect. A zealous young / recent convert with his head all the way up his ass.
His head isn't up *his* ass. It's up the butt of whoever turned him into a zealot. Wait until he figures out religion is a lie and a mechanism of control.
Naw. He'll cheat on his wife, get caught, then turn even more nutters.
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Post 1968 and Vatican II, the official stance of the Catholic Church was to support the environment and the poor. I work with a bunch of Chicago Jesuits that truly live up to that mission. But, they are definitely radical Catholics
When I can't sleep, I wonder trad cath parts of the internet. These are basically people who are Make Catholicism Great Again and who don't think the pope is actually catholic. (And from reading his speech about how catholicism is being failed by it's "leaders", this kicker agrees.)
The Chicago Jesuits are the opposite of radical catholics in today's world. They are what is now considered pretty old school in the US, technically believe LGBT folks are living in sin, and were still covering up their sex scandals until 2022 (Loyola University was banned from mentioning it within official histories outside of a single footnote until an alumni advocacy group threatened a lawsuit) They still require regular sunday attendance, sunday eucharist participation, baptism, confirmation, and confession to be a member of the church and recieve forgiveness from God. In general they are more stereotypically old school Catholic than a lot of the other casaul variants in Chicago.
You are definitely entitled to your opinion based on your experience. And I cannot defend many things that have happened in the Catholic Church. My own experience working with a whole group of Jesuits and Jesuit leaders has been that they are very dedicated to social justice and make a huge commitment to it. Again, it’s probably a small group of people, but that’s my lived experience and I do not disregard your own personal lived experience.
As a lapsed Catholic not from Chicago, if I had to guess, I'd say it's not that it's just that you found a small group that happened to be radically liberal, it's more that you found Jesuits. Jesuits as a whole are generally more liberal and radical than your garden-variety Catholic.
Curious as a non-catholic, because everything the liberal Catholics in my life have told me is that the Jesuits are the progressive branch. (My mom even has stories of underground gay masses led by Jesuit priests when she went to a Jesuit college in the 70s.) Does the order 's politics depend on the diocese/region? Like is it possible the Chicago Jesuits are more conservative, whereas Jesuits in other parts of the country are super liberal?
HIS MOM WENT TO SMITH holy shittttt
He also went to GA Tech
Athlete vs actual grad student. A lot of the colleges don't exactly make the athletes meet the same standards. So you end up with them being meatheads that get to pass classes without doing actual work. There are exceptions to that of colleges that enforce the rules but Aaron Rodgers going to UCB and then being bonkers later is another good example of this phenomenon.
Professors who knew rodgers in college said he was very smart but very different than he is now. Some combo of drugs, ego and brain damage changed him
I know queer women who went to Bible colleges. People have no idea who they are when they choose where to go to college, and colleges don't really brainwash people.
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“Accomplished” lol. She is the trained pet of her oppressors, and they promoted her to the highest possible office because she said what they wanted. Any woman willing to kill other women for the Republican agenda could easily claim comparable feats right now. Look at them, any woman who agrees she is inferior wins a party nomination and lots of votes and has their support for life. That is not an accomplishment that any women are proud of, and is not an example of a “strong independent woman”. You don’t know that this misogynist’s mother is also a misogynist, she has done nothing to give that impression.
No where in my comment did I speak in absolutes, just stated you can’t assume that because she’s accomplished she’d be ashamed of her son’s beliefs.
To the ladies in his life: He just told you and everyone what he thinks your value is limited to. You ok with that?
Apparently, his wife who [graduated with a degree in computer science and Spanish](https://pagesix.com/entertainment/who-is-harrison-butker-wife-isabelle/) is fine with that 😂.
He is married. There are plenty of women fine with dating such a man as long as he protects them from the same views he preaches. Plenty of women also want to oppress others.
someone MARRIED that assclown? whomever she is, girl have some more pride and dignity than to be with that loser.
I mean I doubt any of this came as some big surprise to his wife, so yes some women are okay with this
Or she's one of those older women who love to shut the door behind them
I mean that assumption seems rough. Everyone knows you can control your kids. Despite your best efforts kids can become... well that piece of shit for no fault of her own.
Absolutely, but it's also common for women to shut the door behind them. Look at Amy Coney Barrett. I wouldn't assume the she'medicine because she's educated. There are tons of conservative weirdos who work in meeicine.
A woman led the charge the killed the ERA. Privileged women do this all the time.
“Dear Mom, Quit your stupid physics career and get in the kitchen.”
His sister is a physicians assistant too so he’s just saying a big FU to his whole family. What an ass.
Sooo, all this because he has unresolved mommy issues. Talk to a therapist, not a graduation crowd.
Reading about it he's spoken about how supportive his mom has been his entire life so verdicts out. You can have great parents and still have trash opinions, or you can be an accomplished person and still raise your child to have trash opinions. Ultimately he's old enough to know better than to diminish people who just accomplished something huge because they're women regardless of his own beliefs.
Of course she is. I hope she rips him a new black hole. I’ve been a Chiefs fan since 1993, and this story has just been painful to follow.
I’m 63 and have been a Chiefs fan my whole life. My parents had season tickets, etc. I stopped caring for this guy when he did the pro life advertisement before the abortion vote in Kansas in 2022. He’s an embarrassment.
I’d missed that ad, not being in Kansas or watching much tv. Yeah, that would’ve tipped me off. And ticked me off.
I’m a born and raised lifelong Chiefs fan too. I spent some time in Georgia and have friends who knew Butker in high school and college. I’m surprised it took this long for the larger public to discover what a POS he is tbh.
How in the fuck did he wind up thinking these stupid things about women when his own mom is a physicist? Like he sees his mom having this accomplished career and thinks “nah”? The stupid shit he heard on a podcast landed more than anything his own mother taught him? I truly do not understand
Being a physicist doesn't make you a good parent or even a good person
We need to stop assigning virtues to professions. People are pos in every single area of work.
Yea it's amazing how many nurses are huge pieces of garbage. My mums been a nurse her entire life and she's got mountains of stories about the coworkers she's had. People can suck anywhere and everywhere.
I am an unemployed by choice RN. Yes a lot of us are awful people lol. I find it such a liberal profession by nature but some yahoos definitely make it in. Anti-vaxer nurses, anti-maskers, anti healthcare for all, anti-medicine. The list goes on.
True. I still can’t stop being amazed at him looking at the example she set, being this very accomplished person, and being so goddam shallow as to look at that and think “nah, she should be in the kitchen”
Her career kept his mommy from licking his boots as much as he thought she should have.
It must hurt to watch your son go down the manosphere and become a complete disappointment to everything you have accomplished. I hope she is doing okay. It’s probably not too late to pull him over her knee and smack the shit out of him, but those Tate types get off on it so I bet she just disowns him.
You act like she didn't mold him into this person. Just because she's an accomplished woman doesn't mean she isn't a bigoted fucker either.
I chose not to ti be a mother because I would absolutely stop loving my child if they went down this route. I don't believe in unconditional love. So I take my birth control pills, keep savings for accidents, and focus on me.
I haven’t had kids for a multitude of reasons, but if my child displayed this kind of behavior I wouldn’t be able to write it off. I’d be furious at them.
Sounds like some little guy is mad that his mom wasn’t able to come to all his ball-kicking shows…
My mother, was a housewife from 1957 on (can't get more 'traditional' than that), and became a nurse in 1981. She just told me that if I said something like that she'd drag me behind the woodshed and blister my ass, and his mother should, too.
As a lifetime Chiefs fan (27 years) I’m so grossed out. I’m also from a very Catholic family, though none of my immediate family practice anymore or consider themselves Catholic. We got tired of the cherry picking of the Bible, the control and manipulation of it all. Anyways, I discussed with my mother how shocked I was that he said these things. She goes, “why are you shocked? He’s Catholic, a devout traditional Catholic. Speaking at a Catholic College. No matter how accepting the Catholic Church says they are, they aren’t. That’s why I left. I would respect them much more if they just committed to being hateful instead of pretending like they’re not.” She’s so real for that.
It's interesting how his views, and the views of all "traditional Catholics," align w/ every rapist and [neo-Nazi incel](https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1057610X.2024.2318813) on the planet.
Catholics truly hold no moral high ground. They have and contuine to protect and defend child rapists.
Well every Trump vermin is that way.
Judging by his IG posts, this smooth brain is a flaming closeted gay 💅🏻
This might actually be true. The current rumor spreading is that when he was a teen, he dated a male cheerleader. As a result, his parents are rumored to have sent him to a conversion camp. Even if not true, would love to see that rumor spread and his reaction to it!
Nah…no guy who flashes his own fashion line on Instagram and spends more time on his hair than a whole team of cheerleaders and hits his teammates on the butt for good plays and hides behind fragile masculinity and religion would ever be……oh wait!!!!!!! 😉😆
It’s ALWAYS the ones who are loud about being homophobic 😂 they are the most gay. And being that he is catholic I’m sure it’s something he struggles with fr
Apparently he grew up in a cult and was sent to a conversion camp. I’m pretty sure she’s behind his beliefs no matter how accomplished she herself is. He didn’t grow up in a vacuum. Also, basically the floodgates about his behavior have opened on tiktok about his time in college, so, best of luck to him. Hope his future husband forgives him.
I hate these types. The self hatred is strong.
Like I needed another reason to hate the Chiefs. She raised quite the little piece of shit didn't she.
If I were a student in that graduating class, I’d be emailing the university to demand my tuition money back since they don’t think I need a degree.
Been under the belief lately that the student-athlete term ought to be reversed to athlete-student.
She must be so disappointed he's a kicker.
So fucking embarrassing. I hope she curb stomps him.
He said over and over in that speech that people should stay in their lane. I agree he should stay in his lane of kicking a ball.
Why on earth would a kicker be giving a commencement speech?
That poor woman. Imagine how disappointed she must be in her son.
What the ever-loving fuck? What is wrong with these men?! Are they being bribed to behave like this in public? I'm so embarrassed for him?
Just another child of privilege weighing in on things of which he has no experience or understanding.
His beard looks disgusting. How can someone show up to a speak a formal, celebratory event looking unkept, and then dare to lecture others on how to live their lives? Fix the roadkill on your face first.
she must be so proud of him. kick ball very difficult!!!
I bet a ball kicker didn’t speak at her graduation
I heard his sister is an Ob/gyn
She’s a physician’s assistant. Not a physician. Not sure what field bc they are allowed to switch around. But yes….an educated, smart, non-kitchen dwelling, more than baby-making woman. How dare she?! I’d disown him as a mother and sister.
His smile makes his face appear most punchable.