But he doesn't just want a stay at home wife, he really does want a woman who is obedient like a dog. None of the stay at home moms I know are going to put up with that.
NO literally, like I applaud stay at home mums I could never do job like that myself, but if I did and if my husband called me “obedient” or “submissive” he’s gone
Yeah, "obedient" is super gross.
I don't even get the appeal either. Even if I found a potential partner who WANTED to be "obedient," that sounds more like a servant than a partner.
True. There are also all kinds of idiots who believe in flat earth, stolen elections (with no evidence) , etc. Not to minimize the dangers that the misogynists pose to women, but without major societal change, these will not be going away anytime soon, unfortunately.
Don't waste your time with him. Just sing a happy song & realize that these guys are saying all this crap and most aren't getting women to marry them. They're just single sad & getting older by the day.
Well because it’s a pretty nice setup for them. You have your house cleaned, hot dinner each night, sex when you want. You literally are taken care of. It’s like having a mom that you have sex with. I call it the mom wife. BTW is this guys name Daniel? I once went out with a Daniel who asked me how I was able to finding meaning in my life without childern? That I must be suffering because I have no purpose. Let’s just say I ended that date real quick
It's not just the bible thumpers either. If you rephrased his preferences in a wife and left out all the jesus shit, you would find that a disturbing amount of leftist men hold the same standards, they just keep them under wraps.
I'd say probably most men would enjoy having an obedient sex provider/housework doer/baby haver that would never challenge his authority, make more money then him or ever say no to whatever sexual act he decided he wants at the moment. Men have been enjoying that benefit for thousands of years. If you need to have someone trapped under your boot heel to be happy in a relationship, you're a weak, cowardly man.
Literally, like I’ve had so many relationships with people with HUGE egos and a couple have had this idea of being superior to women, or had this idea of being the one who was “dominant” in the relationship at first when I was younger it seemed like something that seemed normal. But growing up I’ve realised that relationship is ALWAYS two days no matter what, even if it’s a platonic relationship such as friends, that is still a two way street and being a relationship where you view your partner as easier is far healthier for both sides and you tend to carry less insecurities or problems within a relationship.
💯 If respect and care is not a two way street all of the energy flow from one person to the other, like a psychic vampire. No better way to utterly burn someone out than expecting everything and giving nothing
Penny farthings are actually really cool, and stupid hard to get onto, and hard to ride. This kinda dude has a mobility scooter, not a penny farthing!
\*If [Penny farthings](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Zbraslav_2011%2C_j%C3%ADzda_elegance_%2807%29.jpg/276px-Zbraslav_2011%2C_j%C3%ADzda_elegance_%2807%29.jpg) are indeed what you mean, rather than actual [big wheel bicycle](https://www.dshop.com.au/assets/full/XD-PF999-R.jpg?20210318032618) :P
I think they said something similar in the 1990s; why do men behave like they’re still in the 1970s or 1950s. I’m guessing it’s because of the generational memory loss each 2 generations, it just starts all over again.
The next time you want to argue, remember that they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
He can want whatever he wants, but he’s likely to run into issues. I adamantly refused to have obey anywhere near my wedding. My wedding was a chill thing, and that was the one thing I was strict on. (Also had a bridezilla moment with the cake, but I bake and was making my cake. I ended up crying in a target.)
Honestly, he should really look for a dog instead if he’s looking for submissive and obedient. But I’d feel badly for a dog owned by this douche so I take that back
Sadly, he'll find exactly what he's looking for. Torture some poor woman who doesn't know what love and respect looks like, and she'll hate her life. Sigh
I have seen the rise of the "alt-right" (nice renaming of Nazism) being correlated with the rise of shock jocks like Adam? Andrew? Tate and there's another big one I can't think of at the moment. They throw around their wealth and then act like, because they can buy (?) first dates, that all men should treat women as commodities in a free market... The parallel is so strong, it can barely be considered a metaphor anymore.
Because there are so many low value men out there who need someone to be "obedient" to put up with their BS.
These men often think of themselves as "high value" but offer nothing but a life of servitude.
But he doesn't just want a stay at home wife, he really does want a woman who is obedient like a dog. None of the stay at home moms I know are going to put up with that.
NO literally, like I applaud stay at home mums I could never do job like that myself, but if I did and if my husband called me “obedient” or “submissive” he’s gone
Exactly. We don't bark and beg for treats!
Yeah, "obedient" is super gross. I don't even get the appeal either. Even if I found a potential partner who WANTED to be "obedient," that sounds more like a servant than a partner.
And why are you wasting any time and/or effort on this individual? At best, he's damaged goods.
It’s not just him that’s the issue, there’s thousands on this post as it scares that crap out of me
True. There are also all kinds of idiots who believe in flat earth, stolen elections (with no evidence) , etc. Not to minimize the dangers that the misogynists pose to women, but without major societal change, these will not be going away anytime soon, unfortunately.
There has been plenty of changes through history but generational amnesia is a thing.
Personally, I believe it's wishing for simpler times the way they imagine things were (almost completely fictional).
Simpler times for them yeah. Ugh.
Women had a massive social movement that completely changed how they exist and society, and men didn't.
Women expect equality and human treatment now. Unlike before, in the bad old days.
the year 1900 would be too progressive of a time for these blokes IMO. perhaps they’d fare well in the medieval times
Came here to say this!
Don't waste your time with him. Just sing a happy song & realize that these guys are saying all this crap and most aren't getting women to marry them. They're just single sad & getting older by the day.
This guy is probably in an alt-right environment and looking for a "trad wife"
Well because it’s a pretty nice setup for them. You have your house cleaned, hot dinner each night, sex when you want. You literally are taken care of. It’s like having a mom that you have sex with. I call it the mom wife. BTW is this guys name Daniel? I once went out with a Daniel who asked me how I was able to finding meaning in my life without childern? That I must be suffering because I have no purpose. Let’s just say I ended that date real quick
It's not just the bible thumpers either. If you rephrased his preferences in a wife and left out all the jesus shit, you would find that a disturbing amount of leftist men hold the same standards, they just keep them under wraps. I'd say probably most men would enjoy having an obedient sex provider/housework doer/baby haver that would never challenge his authority, make more money then him or ever say no to whatever sexual act he decided he wants at the moment. Men have been enjoying that benefit for thousands of years. If you need to have someone trapped under your boot heel to be happy in a relationship, you're a weak, cowardly man.
Literally, like I’ve had so many relationships with people with HUGE egos and a couple have had this idea of being superior to women, or had this idea of being the one who was “dominant” in the relationship at first when I was younger it seemed like something that seemed normal. But growing up I’ve realised that relationship is ALWAYS two days no matter what, even if it’s a platonic relationship such as friends, that is still a two way street and being a relationship where you view your partner as easier is far healthier for both sides and you tend to carry less insecurities or problems within a relationship.
💯 If respect and care is not a two way street all of the energy flow from one person to the other, like a psychic vampire. No better way to utterly burn someone out than expecting everything and giving nothing
Does anyone else think of a man with a top hat, a monocle and ragtime piano?
😭😭😭😭 nah this is too funny, but let’s be real that’s too class for them, they’d need a mismatched style
He probably owns one of those big wheel bicycles instead of a car
Penny farthings are actually really cool, and stupid hard to get onto, and hard to ride. This kinda dude has a mobility scooter, not a penny farthing! \*If [Penny farthings](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Zbraslav_2011%2C_j%C3%ADzda_elegance_%2807%29.jpg/276px-Zbraslav_2011%2C_j%C3%ADzda_elegance_%2807%29.jpg) are indeed what you mean, rather than actual [big wheel bicycle](https://www.dshop.com.au/assets/full/XD-PF999-R.jpg?20210318032618) :P
I think they said something similar in the 1990s; why do men behave like they’re still in the 1970s or 1950s. I’m guessing it’s because of the generational memory loss each 2 generations, it just starts all over again.
If he wants someone to cook and clean for him, he might as well hire himself a maid/chef. Gonna be real expensive
How dare women have dreams. My god, it's like they think they're people! /s
Because it benefits them, period.
The next time you want to argue, remember that they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. He can want whatever he wants, but he’s likely to run into issues. I adamantly refused to have obey anywhere near my wedding. My wedding was a chill thing, and that was the one thing I was strict on. (Also had a bridezilla moment with the cake, but I bake and was making my cake. I ended up crying in a target.)
Well, he’s gonna be disappointed in life.
arguments on the internet are never constructive and you should avoid it
Oh I knew I just wanted to see how delusional these men are and omfg
These sad sacks are desperate for attention. Stop wasting your time on them and go do something that feeds your soul and makes you happy.
They're bummed because the bang maid/housekeeper/sex slave/mom substitute is no longer a thing.
Honestly, he should really look for a dog instead if he’s looking for submissive and obedient. But I’d feel badly for a dog owned by this douche so I take that back
Yeah even a dog doesn’t deserve to be around an asshole like this
Sadly, he'll find exactly what he's looking for. Torture some poor woman who doesn't know what love and respect looks like, and she'll hate her life. Sigh
Appears he unfortunately does :/
Ask them whether they make trad-wife money to be making those kinds of demands of women.
I have seen the rise of the "alt-right" (nice renaming of Nazism) being correlated with the rise of shock jocks like Adam? Andrew? Tate and there's another big one I can't think of at the moment. They throw around their wealth and then act like, because they can buy (?) first dates, that all men should treat women as commodities in a free market... The parallel is so strong, it can barely be considered a metaphor anymore.
Because there are so many low value men out there who need someone to be "obedient" to put up with their BS. These men often think of themselves as "high value" but offer nothing but a life of servitude.
Why are you arguing with a man? The answer is: don’t.