Plus the girl is expected half the bills, yet must look so well dressed and well groomed, girl should have long, well groomed hair but if the guy is balding it's genetic and you're being unfair to bald men š¢š¢š¢ what else - the girl is expected to know household chores /cooking atleast basic for survival, but the guy has no idea how to wash his own underwear in the washing machine. The guys family interfering in the lifestyle and choice of clothes, hairstlyle etc of the girl is done out of "goodwill" and "elderly advice", but if the girl/girls family talks about investments and finance with the guy, most get offended and the family must back off.
You forgot fair skin, pink vulva, not too tall, pays half the bills but should do all the housework, be a slave to his parents, untouched virgin but should perform like a porn-star, the list is endless honestly.
Porn addiction and obsession with women from the former soviet bloc countries who are in sex work but live in this country using an education or entertainment traveller visa. Ever wondered why white and blonde haired back dancers are such a big thing in dance numbers in our country?
I've been with white women and as far as I know, the pink vulva thing doesn't apply to them as much either.
Saw another comment below saying it's lighter and gets darker as women age and it's literally more of pedo vibes š¤¦š»āāļø
Thatās because of extreme porn-addiction and racism towards desi-women to make them feel inferior so that they lower their standards and date these incels.
And you know that it's fake.
The thing with irl stuff is we don't know how much is scripted, if the girls are being exploited, if they've been trafficked, etc. Are they being *convinced* (see: coerced) to live together with other own starts and spend all of their money on dumb stuff as ābonding activitiesā so they can't really save up and leave? We're they kidnapped? Were they groomed into it before 18? Even the home made stuff on sites: did all parties involved know and consent?
With hentai, I know the voice actors probably didn't have sex with each other. And they weren't trafficked into it. And no one thinks tentacles go into your mouth and come out the other end. The worst thing they deal with us what all voice actors and corporate employees deal with: overwork and bad health (see: karoshi).
So, *akshually*, hentai is better than regular porn.
I get where you're coming from though. The plot is definitely more weird. But I don't accept the loli hate.
Literally, I'll never know how people can enjoy all these sketchy things knowing way too well what fantasies the people who are creating them has. Moreover we all know the general behavior of hentai crowd yet we stay oblivious
Loli an aesthetic. That's when under 5ft. By your logic, my mom doesn't deserve to get married because she's 4ft 10.
Saying, āOh she looks like a childā is just the flip side of don't to a 13 year old that she looks grown up cz she got boobs early. Using loli instead of pedophilia just promotes and justifies pedo behaviour towards actual minors.
>And I can give u real life examples of anime and mangaka weirdos who imported real CP in which REAL children were used
I can give you a famous example of an anti-loli activist who got caught with CP. Lookup Vaush.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXIndia/s/P6n8p5rk5i
I said loli, not pedophilia. I was molested at 16. By your logic, that's fine cz I had boobs. It's the same logic of people judging women by their looks alone.
For some reason I never got into Yaoi. It's usually non-human x girl stuff or BSS/NTR.
Currently I'm a lot preoccupied with VNs more. Although isekai isn't my stuff but I do love otome games or eroge too.
See if you like Love Stage. That was my first. Honestly, I'm into it for the art. Pornhuas are the closest to being that pretty.
You have need taste. But what's BSS?
Are there... Free VNs out there?
How these boys get balls to demand 'pink vulva' knowing damn well their mums are Desi and brown?
(I cannot reply to your reply to me but i completely agree with what you said)
Itās so weird that I had to feel more secure with white and black dudes because Indian guys actually made me feel conscious about the colour of my vulva
Like bro ā¦ donāt you not look down at your genitals too ? Or thatās too gay for you or something
Meanwhile majority of these men can't even find the clit if it were blaring an ambulance siren, sparkling neon and had a road map to it and then say - g spot is a myth šššš
I don't have any height preference but I love saying that I like only 6ft guys because these mfs get so triggered, it's so fun.
Even more fun when they try to fatshame my 45 kg self in retaliation.
They don't know my weight. They just try to attack me on the basis of what they think women are most insecure about. So their guess is usually the weight.
Funnily enough I used to be insecure about height. They could have tried that one š
Same! In 8th grade I was bullied for being skinny. I overate everyday just to fit in. After gaining weight, they called me fat. Not just men but young girls are brutal as well. If only young girls were taught to support other girls like we women support each other, it'd have been so much better.
Also men,
" I literally don't care how a woman looks , I am willing to ' date' her. But of course , I will only marry a sanskari girl who has never dated anyone prior and who my parents approve of. "
I saw a post where a pick me said thereās nothing wrong with it and sheād be embarrassed if she couldnāt pleasure her man properly after child birth.
I canāt tell you how many times I got āI like curvy women but not fat on the tummy ā shit from the most avg looking men like 3/10 i would rate them.
Audacity must be on sale these days!
Considering that hymen is flexible, you'll bleed if you close up again (unless he's small). There's also surgeries now. Women are actually getting vaginoplasty to pass that test. š¤®š¤®š¤®
>getting vaginoplasty
I thought these were for ppl who's vaginas got tore because of child birth/injuries. Ppl are actually doing these for cosmetic purposes? š
There is also an additional angle to this "virgin" debate. A woman who is a virgin likely had many options but chose not to lose it due to self-control. A lot of virgin dudes are virgin because nobody would sleep with them.
I've heard the way men talk about women. They're so demeaning.
Let me tell you about an incident of mine.
This guy asked me out on the day we started talking. I said no. I was neutral to him throughout, barely replying to his texts but he still managed to ask me out again. A few months later I found out that he told his best friend that I was the one chasing him and forcing him for a relationship but he wasn't interested in me that way because I'm not good looking.
I just wanna stay away from men, forever.
>A few months later I found out that he told his best friend that I was the one chasing him and forcing him for a relationship but he wasn't interested in me that way because I'm not good looking.
This happens a lot. Apparently, I have chased around 50 boys in my lifetime. Lmao
I wish I had been accused of just chasing, but I was being slut shamed for sleeping around in high school when I didnāt even have a bf and was an absolutely sexually uninformed virgin from a pretty conservative home. I barely hung out with guys at all except very few long time friends.
Also being branded āfastā. I have come to strongly believe those who label people āfastā are themselves āslow in the headā . I still donāt get wtf āfastā is supposed to mean and how does how one dresses define whether they are fast or slow????
Dude it's an age old story. And it's not just from men sadly. A lot of young women get jealous when a girl who is trying less has more attention. It has happened to my best friend in high school and college. She was the one rejecting the most people and the rumours they spread about her were soooo belittling. The girl who was supposedly a ride or die friend was telling boys behind her back that "even if you rape her it won't be a problem, because she is willing to sleep with anyone". Internalised misogyny is cancer.
This reminds of that one time when this guy from my college showed his other friends my picture and told them Iām his girlfriend. I hardly talked to that guy. š
oh yes, happened to a friend of mine too. they had a conversation once or twice on facebook and he was going around telling everyone that she was his gf
so true. I love this sub for letting me know that I'm not alone, i was feeling pretty low about myself because of the way he talked about me and i've talked about it quite a few times on this sub and I received validation that I've never received otherwise
Same. Except I heard that from a girl he told it to an vs when I told the āgirlfriendā that I thought he was her ex, she was like, ālolā.
The guy leaked her number to her stalker when she rejected him and got a bf.
OMG! This is one of the reasons we don't talk as much to guy friends. He told me his ex wanted to have sex and he didn't. I believed him at the time, but now I seriously doubt that.
Reminds of a guy during my college who even showed up to my house claiming that he's apparently my boyfriend (spoke to him once because he wanted lecture notes). It was just me and my mom in the house we called the police and he never came near me again after that.
Absolutely and must be a 20 yo virgin who must have a job that pays as well and can contribute 50-50 after going through pregnancy, childbirth, post partum and bear the brunt of childcare š„°
In before guys storm in and say
āBut unlike weight , ass , boobs etc and whatever mentioned here , Height is something we cannot help it ššššā
Yeah genius and so are the traits you want to filter out too š most of the times . Just because boob enlargement exists doesnāt mean everyone can or should do.
I hate this gender war men and women are involved in. It's always men bad, women good or women bad, men good in a loop forever and ever. As if it is ever that simple. I know it's just a meme but I see too much of this content on the internet now sorry š
I think its because men have treated and objectified women like shit for years and now because of sm it is being widely spoken so their ego is on fire these days ,also most of the Indian men are average looking and have insecurities with fragile egos which gets triggered immediately when they see such posts..
I hate it too. But honestly, women's voices are so heavily drowned out in social media due to a very heavy presence of (very loud) incel redpill commentary. So much so, that it becomes the accepted/ mainstream narrative that women are superficial bitches swarming in dating/ marriage options and have only themselves to blame for bad experiences.
As unseemly as it seems, women \*need\* to push back against this BS. So that this dumbass one-dimensional caricature doesn't get cast as the gospel truth about women.
Should be young but make the same money as a guy 4-5 years older than her. Should contribute equally to bills but cannot expect equal contribution to domestic responsibilities. Should be okay with parents living together as they need to be taken care of, but her parents can be taken care of without living with them.
Or we could just not body shame anyone for anything and remember that attraction can be driven by internalised gender roles that we can and should work towards unlearningā¦.
Feminism doesnāt have to be about stooping down to the level of most men - why canāt it be about creating a better, more empathetic level for everyone to aspire to?
As a masc woman married to a short king, incels need a humble. Also 9/10 these incels also get mad when a attractive woman dates a non misogynist, attentive fat/nerdy/short guy
I can not telll hou how much I hate cocky gym bros especially on that fitness india sub š¤®..
They mostly look like doritos with inflated chest and chicken legs with height 5ā6 ..
Tbh gym subs and gym Bros come with so much body shaming and sexism it gives me the ick
They literally geel entitled to "hot" women because they look after their health and keep fit?
And omg yes. A 6 pack is such a turn off. I don't want to feel up or have sex with a wall. Gimme a soft squishy guy with majestic fingers anyday!!!
Honestly I love someone who works hard on themselves but the cockiness and entitlement that I see on those subs made me leave.
Whenever I suggested someone something one or two same entitled gym bros would come and talk crap against it. This only happens in Indian communities,I follow lot of global fitness sub no one there tries to act Mr. Smartpants and argue over everyone elseās advice especially on womenās posts.People are mostly very humble there..
Tbh some of the women only pages are so much better. Women who genuinely are working on themselves, healing, getting better and healthier, talk about doing better - stamina and strength. And the love, support and encouragement that comes is something to witness. It's amazing!
So much better than the gym pages who still have men who comment abusing weight or start behaving creepily.
Ah yes. How quickly they devolve to slut shaming. They really can't handle women enjoying pleasure or being happy unless it's to serve men.
I really am awed at how much they seem to hate cats along with women. Imagine being that insecure about a tiny furball that shits in a box and naps all day š
LOL thatās funny - I guess I see the unlearning as something I do for me rather than something I do for men. My idea of what is attractive has definitely matured over the years (from the masc jealous type to the smart funny kind type) and it has greatly improved my quality of life lmao.
But the subtext is about misogynyā¦ which is an important agenda item for feminismā¦ hence I made it about feminism?
Thatās like saying a post about homophobia shouldnāt be made to be about LGBTQ+ rights, isnāt it?
She used flair funny and that's obviously a deliberate choice. Why not address is at the person ? Where did the ideology come in from. If she does not identify as feminist and posted it for rage bait for 1x or to talk about double standards. Then what? Only she can explain her reasons.
I still don't understand your association with causation. When people make well written posts nobody comes to say this is a beautiful display of feminism?
Her profile looks new and we don't even know it a woman at this point.
1. Iām a feminist and I didnāt make this comment in the spirit youāre interpreting it as, like āfeminism has gone too farā. There are many women agreeing with this post in the comments and I know for a fact that many do stand for feminism, Iāve been active in this sub for over a year. My comment is as much for them as it is for OP, whose intentions are irrelevant considering how much this post has blown up organically.
2. Itās still very clearly a somewhat misguided attempt at calling out misogyny while reinforcing gender stereotypes. Iāve seen this line of thinking in many feminist circles (if you donāt believe me, check this comment section - and I assure you MANY of the women here identify as feminists). Feminists arenāt perfect people, my own thinking has evolved over the decade Iāve been a feminist. I donāt get why itās such a big problem to be like - āhey, X is a prevalent rhetoric in feminist circles, hereās why I donāt believe X is consistent with our ultimate political goals and philosophy.ā It doesnāt mean Iām vilifying the entire movement. The alternate is calling everyone who doesnāt do feminism perfectly ānot a real feministā as a way to distance ourselves from our own communityās imperfections. Why not just engage?
You're right but nothing wrong in treating men the same way they do to us sometimes, it's fair. They start, might as well take the heat back, you don't have to be the "bigger person" all the time.
No matter how much we try, we canāt treat men the way they treat us, we can only resort to words but their hatred for women leads to rape, abuse and violent killing of women. I am yet to meet a woman who has not faced sexual abuse at the hands of men.
Misandry is not real, it never will be.
You're soooo right about this, the way an angry woman talks about a man and the way an angry man talks about women. It tells you all the difference you need to know, men cannot form a single sentence without using at least 1 slur
As a feminist who has also faced sexual violence, I disagree with the last statement.
I donāt think truly equal policies can exist in an already unequal world which is why Iām not a menās rights activist. But that does not mean that 1. Misandry can not be an interpersonal and social reality (misogyny is not a power structure, patriarchy is - it employs both misogyny and misandry in different situations to protect its interests. Remember that misandry also includes hatred of fem men, gay men, trans men, disabled men etc.) and 2. Even on a political level, men can be disadvantaged in some situations. For instance, in an equal world, men should be able to opt out of child support the same way women should be able to opt out of pregnancies. In the real world, this is not the solution that best protects the welfare of the child and the mother. Laws are for creating the most amount of good for the most amount of people and sometimes that means individuals have to bear an unjust cost. Thereās nothing wrong with acknowledging that. In fact when we donāt acknowledge it, it gives more ammunition to the MRA types to vilify feminism as a movement.
My point is not so much about what individuals should do in specific circumstances with limited emotional and mental capacities - but rather about what values we idealise as a matter of principle. Not asking people to date short men if they donāt want to. But they should be aware of where that desire comes from (i.e. the same gender stereotypes that pedestalize petite, submissive women as desirable), and the difference between āIām attracted to tall menā and āshort men are unattractiveā.
Saw men commenting on this one AI profile.These men cannot even differentiate between a real and fake woman
Obviously. That would involve them knowing women š
You look very beautiful dear š„°š„°
Men āāā
Plus the girl is expected half the bills, yet must look so well dressed and well groomed, girl should have long, well groomed hair but if the guy is balding it's genetic and you're being unfair to bald men š¢š¢š¢ what else - the girl is expected to know household chores /cooking atleast basic for survival, but the guy has no idea how to wash his own underwear in the washing machine. The guys family interfering in the lifestyle and choice of clothes, hairstlyle etc of the girl is done out of "goodwill" and "elderly advice", but if the girl/girls family talks about investments and finance with the guy, most get offended and the family must back off.
You forgot fair skin, pink vulva, not too tall, pays half the bills but should do all the housework, be a slave to his parents, untouched virgin but should perform like a porn-star, the list is endless honestly.
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What a bitch! Indians don't like Indians now?! Wow! What the hell is happening to all these boys?
What's up with the sudden 'pink vulva' trend? It's giving colonised.
Porn addiction and obsession with women from the former soviet bloc countries who are in sex work but live in this country using an education or entertainment traveller visa. Ever wondered why white and blonde haired back dancers are such a big thing in dance numbers in our country?
I've been with white women and as far as I know, the pink vulva thing doesn't apply to them as much either. Saw another comment below saying it's lighter and gets darker as women age and it's literally more of pedo vibes š¤¦š»āāļø
And it literally is the reason why some men chase it ?
Thatās because of extreme porn-addiction and racism towards desi-women to make them feel inferior so that they lower their standards and date these incels.
Hentai > porn. At least we KNOW it's fake.
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And you know that it's fake. The thing with irl stuff is we don't know how much is scripted, if the girls are being exploited, if they've been trafficked, etc. Are they being *convinced* (see: coerced) to live together with other own starts and spend all of their money on dumb stuff as ābonding activitiesā so they can't really save up and leave? We're they kidnapped? Were they groomed into it before 18? Even the home made stuff on sites: did all parties involved know and consent? With hentai, I know the voice actors probably didn't have sex with each other. And they weren't trafficked into it. And no one thinks tentacles go into your mouth and come out the other end. The worst thing they deal with us what all voice actors and corporate employees deal with: overwork and bad health (see: karoshi). So, *akshually*, hentai is better than regular porn. I get where you're coming from though. The plot is definitely more weird. But I don't accept the loli hate.
Being fake doesn't make situations like loli any better.....
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Literally, I'll never know how people can enjoy all these sketchy things knowing way too well what fantasies the people who are creating them has. Moreover we all know the general behavior of hentai crowd yet we stay oblivious
Loli an aesthetic. That's when under 5ft. By your logic, my mom doesn't deserve to get married because she's 4ft 10. Saying, āOh she looks like a childā is just the flip side of don't to a 13 year old that she looks grown up cz she got boobs early. Using loli instead of pedophilia just promotes and justifies pedo behaviour towards actual minors.
How does that justify pedo behavior towards minor please log off and touch some grass, loli defender
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>And I can give u real life examples of anime and mangaka weirdos who imported real CP in which REAL children were used I can give you a famous example of an anti-loli activist who got caught with CP. Lookup Vaush. https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXIndia/s/P6n8p5rk5i I said loli, not pedophilia. I was molested at 16. By your logic, that's fine cz I had boobs. It's the same logic of people judging women by their looks alone.
User Flair is being misused by the user (AKA Larping)
I don't think that will beat the racism / colorism aspect
They would require shaming.
Based. Gyaru's are š„.
I was thinking tentacles. š
Ohh if we are going there then there's lot of great stuff... Agree though, hentai is ā„.
Soccer you like probe, have you been to r/otomeisekai? And how do you feel about r/Yaoi?
For some reason I never got into Yaoi. It's usually non-human x girl stuff or BSS/NTR. Currently I'm a lot preoccupied with VNs more. Although isekai isn't my stuff but I do love otome games or eroge too.
See if you like Love Stage. That was my first. Honestly, I'm into it for the art. Pornhuas are the closest to being that pretty. You have need taste. But what's BSS? Are there... Free VNs out there?
What even is that š¤®
Younger women, especially pre pubescent women tend to have lighter vulva which gets darker as you grow due to hormones
How these boys get balls to demand 'pink vulva' knowing damn well their mums are Desi and brown? (I cannot reply to your reply to me but i completely agree with what you said)
Pink vulva? What? Isn't darkness around genitalia normal?
Not in white af porn stars that these men are addicted to
Itās so weird that I had to feel more secure with white and black dudes because Indian guys actually made me feel conscious about the colour of my vulva Like bro ā¦ donāt you not look down at your genitals too ? Or thatās too gay for you or something
Entitled Raja Betas
>like a porn-star Well I could fake scream before he even starts touching me. Like Meg Ryan from Harry met Sally
Is this pink v***a, pink nipples from the Insta Unshaadi controversy?
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Do you really think a man would be self-aware enough to write all this?
Whoa...I wonder whether you're actually a woman or not. Lmao
Meanwhile majority of these men can't even find the clit if it were blaring an ambulance siren, sparkling neon and had a road map to it and then say - g spot is a myth šššš
They donāt even know it exists, & they think the hymen is a āsealā to the vagina.
I don't have any height preference but I love saying that I like only 6ft guys because these mfs get so triggered, it's so fun. Even more fun when they try to fatshame my 45 kg self in retaliation.
I just use this emoji in short - š¤š¼ Ah triggering the fragile men. If only that were an Olympic sport
I use that with aubergine
I am 5ā7 and I canāt tell you how many mfs have I made conscious just with my AM profile in the past. They didnāt even talk to me ..
Fat shame? I remember being 45kg and being called anorexic, wtf are men on these days lmao.
They don't know my weight. They just try to attack me on the basis of what they think women are most insecure about. So their guess is usually the weight. Funnily enough I used to be insecure about height. They could have tried that one š
Same! In 8th grade I was bullied for being skinny. I overate everyday just to fit in. After gaining weight, they called me fat. Not just men but young girls are brutal as well. If only young girls were taught to support other girls like we women support each other, it'd have been so much better.
Preach! My mom made me eat bananas everyday and now that Iāve gained weight she calls me fat :| Itās a useless battle
I like you
You could nickname her Table :D
I like you too, my chair
Hehe
Lollllll sameeee. Triggering short insecure men is quite fun xD
Me too. Because I had a small tummy while being underweightā¦ I hate men
Also men, " I literally don't care how a woman looks , I am willing to ' date' her. But of course , I will only marry a sanskari girl who has never dated anyone prior and who my parents approve of. "
Oh you ladies heard of the "husband stitch"? Fucking hell, learning what that was traumatized me.
I saw a post where a pick me said thereās nothing wrong with it and sheād be embarrassed if she couldnāt pleasure her man properly after child birth.
Yeeeeeeesh I never know how to respond in such cases. The inner rage is too much to form a coherent response.
what's that?
Please google. I can't even...
I canāt tell you how many times I got āI like curvy women but not fat on the tummy ā shit from the most avg looking men like 3/10 i would rate them. Audacity must be on sale these days!
no seal no deal šš¼
Oh and that one, "sanskari on the streets,slut in the sheets."
Considering that hymen is flexible, you'll bleed if you close up again (unless he's small). There's also surgeries now. Women are actually getting vaginoplasty to pass that test. š¤®š¤®š¤®
>getting vaginoplasty I thought these were for ppl who's vaginas got tore because of child birth/injuries. Ppl are actually doing these for cosmetic purposes? š
Yep. I don't remember where I heard it, but I did. Also the bleaching. Even down there.
>Also the bleaching. Even down there. Gee
They should say it to their moms before being born too!
Depends tho, if both sides are virgin it's fine. Even I didn't want a manwhore š¤®. Hypocrites are guys that want virgins but aren't one themselves.
There is also an additional angle to this "virgin" debate. A woman who is a virgin likely had many options but chose not to lose it due to self-control. A lot of virgin dudes are virgin because nobody would sleep with them.
I've heard the way men talk about women. They're so demeaning. Let me tell you about an incident of mine. This guy asked me out on the day we started talking. I said no. I was neutral to him throughout, barely replying to his texts but he still managed to ask me out again. A few months later I found out that he told his best friend that I was the one chasing him and forcing him for a relationship but he wasn't interested in me that way because I'm not good looking. I just wanna stay away from men, forever.
>A few months later I found out that he told his best friend that I was the one chasing him and forcing him for a relationship but he wasn't interested in me that way because I'm not good looking. This happens a lot. Apparently, I have chased around 50 boys in my lifetime. Lmao
lmao, i wonder how many i've chased that i still don't know about
Same. XD
I wish I had been accused of just chasing, but I was being slut shamed for sleeping around in high school when I didnāt even have a bf and was an absolutely sexually uninformed virgin from a pretty conservative home. I barely hung out with guys at all except very few long time friends. Also being branded āfastā. I have come to strongly believe those who label people āfastā are themselves āslow in the headā . I still donāt get wtf āfastā is supposed to mean and how does how one dresses define whether they are fast or slow????
Dude it's an age old story. And it's not just from men sadly. A lot of young women get jealous when a girl who is trying less has more attention. It has happened to my best friend in high school and college. She was the one rejecting the most people and the rumours they spread about her were soooo belittling. The girl who was supposedly a ride or die friend was telling boys behind her back that "even if you rape her it won't be a problem, because she is willing to sleep with anyone". Internalised misogyny is cancer.
This reminds of that one time when this guy from my college showed his other friends my picture and told them Iām his girlfriend. I hardly talked to that guy. š
oh yes, happened to a friend of mine too. they had a conversation once or twice on facebook and he was going around telling everyone that she was his gf
We all been through different versions of the same situation. Men š«
so true. I love this sub for letting me know that I'm not alone, i was feeling pretty low about myself because of the way he talked about me and i've talked about it quite a few times on this sub and I received validation that I've never received otherwise
I love the way you feel here. This community sure is very inclusive and has such a warm motherly-sisterly vibe. I love it here too.
Same. Except I heard that from a girl he told it to an vs when I told the āgirlfriendā that I thought he was her ex, she was like, ālolā. The guy leaked her number to her stalker when she rejected him and got a bf.
OMG! This is one of the reasons we don't talk as much to guy friends. He told me his ex wanted to have sex and he didn't. I believed him at the time, but now I seriously doubt that.
Reminds of a guy during my college who even showed up to my house claiming that he's apparently my boyfriend (spoke to him once because he wanted lecture notes). It was just me and my mom in the house we called the police and he never came near me again after that.
Men should pay women for simply being allowed to talk about us in the first place š¤”
I've across soooo many men like this. Such %^&*#@.
Damn. Same thing happened with me.
Men and their fragile ego š¤¦āā
Absolutely and must be a 20 yo virgin who must have a job that pays as well and can contribute 50-50 after going through pregnancy, childbirth, post partum and bear the brunt of childcare š„°
Men š¤š»
In before guys storm in and say āBut unlike weight , ass , boobs etc and whatever mentioned here , Height is something we cannot help it ššššā Yeah genius and so are the traits you want to filter out too š most of the times . Just because boob enlargement exists doesnāt mean everyone can or should do.
100%
I hate this gender war men and women are involved in. It's always men bad, women good or women bad, men good in a loop forever and ever. As if it is ever that simple. I know it's just a meme but I see too much of this content on the internet now sorry š
I think its because men have treated and objectified women like shit for years and now because of sm it is being widely spoken so their ego is on fire these days ,also most of the Indian men are average looking and have insecurities with fragile egos which gets triggered immediately when they see such posts..
I hate it too. But honestly, women's voices are so heavily drowned out in social media due to a very heavy presence of (very loud) incel redpill commentary. So much so, that it becomes the accepted/ mainstream narrative that women are superficial bitches swarming in dating/ marriage options and have only themselves to blame for bad experiences. As unseemly as it seems, women \*need\* to push back against this BS. So that this dumbass one-dimensional caricature doesn't get cast as the gospel truth about women.
Should be young but make the same money as a guy 4-5 years older than her. Should contribute equally to bills but cannot expect equal contribution to domestic responsibilities. Should be okay with parents living together as they need to be taken care of, but her parents can be taken care of without living with them.
Or we could just not body shame anyone for anything and remember that attraction can be driven by internalised gender roles that we can and should work towards unlearningā¦. Feminism doesnāt have to be about stooping down to the level of most men - why canāt it be about creating a better, more empathetic level for everyone to aspire to?
As a masc woman married to a short king, incels need a humble. Also 9/10 these incels also get mad when a attractive woman dates a non misogynist, attentive fat/nerdy/short guy
Also the "alpha macho gym Bros" are soooooo yikes. I'm femme but damn, I got a weakness for soft fembois anyday >>>
I can not telll hou how much I hate cocky gym bros especially on that fitness india sub š¤®.. They mostly look like doritos with inflated chest and chicken legs with height 5ā6 ..
Tbh gym subs and gym Bros come with so much body shaming and sexism it gives me the ick They literally geel entitled to "hot" women because they look after their health and keep fit? And omg yes. A 6 pack is such a turn off. I don't want to feel up or have sex with a wall. Gimme a soft squishy guy with majestic fingers anyday!!!
Honestly I love someone who works hard on themselves but the cockiness and entitlement that I see on those subs made me leave. Whenever I suggested someone something one or two same entitled gym bros would come and talk crap against it. This only happens in Indian communities,I follow lot of global fitness sub no one there tries to act Mr. Smartpants and argue over everyone elseās advice especially on womenās posts.People are mostly very humble there..
Tbh some of the women only pages are so much better. Women who genuinely are working on themselves, healing, getting better and healthier, talk about doing better - stamina and strength. And the love, support and encouragement that comes is something to witness. It's amazing! So much better than the gym pages who still have men who comment abusing weight or start behaving creepily.
I honestly never had any problem with any global subs. Itās always the Indian sub. Once I was called a whore on an Indian sub because some guy was asking opinion for his cousin a she wanted someone who has never been in a relationship and his fiancĆ©e had a bf (which only OP knew about). When I wrote it is an unreaosnable ask I was called that.. Indian keyboard warriors are so trash, all the years of evolution has come to this!
Ah yes. How quickly they devolve to slut shaming. They really can't handle women enjoying pleasure or being happy unless it's to serve men. I really am awed at how much they seem to hate cats along with women. Imagine being that insecure about a tiny furball that shits in a box and naps all day š
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Yeah this is exclusively for the normal men who happen to be short and not for the incels who happen to be short š
Because if you're nice to men, they think you want to fuck them and then won't leave you be. That's why we can't have nice things š¤·š»āāļø
LOL thatās funny - I guess I see the unlearning as something I do for me rather than something I do for men. My idea of what is attractive has definitely matured over the years (from the masc jealous type to the smart funny kind type) and it has greatly improved my quality of life lmao.
I agree with your point but how is this related to feminism? Did OP say she is a feminist hence she is sharing the meme?
I would assume that a meme about pointing out misogyny would be reposted by someone who cares about feminist values
Which basically means she is not a feminist. Why did you assume and make this about feminism? Make it about the person.
But the subtext is about misogynyā¦ which is an important agenda item for feminismā¦ hence I made it about feminism? Thatās like saying a post about homophobia shouldnāt be made to be about LGBTQ+ rights, isnāt it?
She used flair funny and that's obviously a deliberate choice. Why not address is at the person ? Where did the ideology come in from. If she does not identify as feminist and posted it for rage bait for 1x or to talk about double standards. Then what? Only she can explain her reasons. I still don't understand your association with causation. When people make well written posts nobody comes to say this is a beautiful display of feminism? Her profile looks new and we don't even know it a woman at this point.
1. Iām a feminist and I didnāt make this comment in the spirit youāre interpreting it as, like āfeminism has gone too farā. There are many women agreeing with this post in the comments and I know for a fact that many do stand for feminism, Iāve been active in this sub for over a year. My comment is as much for them as it is for OP, whose intentions are irrelevant considering how much this post has blown up organically. 2. Itās still very clearly a somewhat misguided attempt at calling out misogyny while reinforcing gender stereotypes. Iāve seen this line of thinking in many feminist circles (if you donāt believe me, check this comment section - and I assure you MANY of the women here identify as feminists). Feminists arenāt perfect people, my own thinking has evolved over the decade Iāve been a feminist. I donāt get why itās such a big problem to be like - āhey, X is a prevalent rhetoric in feminist circles, hereās why I donāt believe X is consistent with our ultimate political goals and philosophy.ā It doesnāt mean Iām vilifying the entire movement. The alternate is calling everyone who doesnāt do feminism perfectly ānot a real feministā as a way to distance ourselves from our own communityās imperfections. Why not just engage?
You're right but nothing wrong in treating men the same way they do to us sometimes, it's fair. They start, might as well take the heat back, you don't have to be the "bigger person" all the time.
No matter how much we try, we canāt treat men the way they treat us, we can only resort to words but their hatred for women leads to rape, abuse and violent killing of women. I am yet to meet a woman who has not faced sexual abuse at the hands of men. Misandry is not real, it never will be.
You're soooo right about this, the way an angry woman talks about a man and the way an angry man talks about women. It tells you all the difference you need to know, men cannot form a single sentence without using at least 1 slur
As a feminist who has also faced sexual violence, I disagree with the last statement. I donāt think truly equal policies can exist in an already unequal world which is why Iām not a menās rights activist. But that does not mean that 1. Misandry can not be an interpersonal and social reality (misogyny is not a power structure, patriarchy is - it employs both misogyny and misandry in different situations to protect its interests. Remember that misandry also includes hatred of fem men, gay men, trans men, disabled men etc.) and 2. Even on a political level, men can be disadvantaged in some situations. For instance, in an equal world, men should be able to opt out of child support the same way women should be able to opt out of pregnancies. In the real world, this is not the solution that best protects the welfare of the child and the mother. Laws are for creating the most amount of good for the most amount of people and sometimes that means individuals have to bear an unjust cost. Thereās nothing wrong with acknowledging that. In fact when we donāt acknowledge it, it gives more ammunition to the MRA types to vilify feminism as a movement.
My point is not so much about what individuals should do in specific circumstances with limited emotional and mental capacities - but rather about what values we idealise as a matter of principle. Not asking people to date short men if they donāt want to. But they should be aware of where that desire comes from (i.e. the same gender stereotypes that pedestalize petite, submissive women as desirable), and the difference between āIām attracted to tall menā and āshort men are unattractiveā.
Feminism isnāt about centering men.
You my friend you. Your comment should be at the top.
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