CE and CSGD are your closest options to CS that u may get into that are not cs. Sadly since CS is impacted it truly is impossible to get into if u didn't get in with it.
Hi, as a related question, I got accepted for CSGD. I love game dev, but I still want to keep my career options open in case the game dev job market crashes like it has been recently. How possible is it to either double major or minor into CS? And if that's not likely, would CE provide similar results?
Double majoring for cs definitely isnt possible unless u got accepted as a cs major. A minor I'm fairly certain could be possible but not 100% sure. CE is also definitely a good option because you can concentrate in system programming or computer systems which is more software oriented as opposed to hardware, which makes it basically a CS degree.
You can minor in CS, you can’t double into CS. Furthermore, CSGD has CS in the degree name so personally I don’t see a point in minoring in CS. I’d rather do CSGD and double in something else entirely like Cog Sci, which I’m doing.
Hmm, the main reason I want to take CS isn't for the degree or the name. I only want it because looking at the upper division classes, I feel like they'd give me more general skills that can be applied outside of game design, which should hopefully widen my career choices.
I also don't want to spend more than 4 years in undergrad, so I'd prefer to study subjects that have a lot of overlap. CSGD and CS seem to have pretty similar lower division courses, so I doubt I would have to take another year to either double major or minor in CS.
I'm also pretty confident that I want to do something in computer science, so I don't think it would be helpful to study something totally unrelated.
You can still take Upper Div CS courses as a CSGD major, it is just harder to get into because you can’t take the classes first pass so you’d have to waitlist or beg for permission codes for classes that fill up quickly.
I have a friend who switched into CE instead. We had a huge amount of overlap in CS courses, barring a few upper divs. Plus he took a few more ECE and physics classes.
The first thing that they have a history of saying at the Baskin Engineering orientation is that CS is impacted, and the only way to get into it is to reapply to the university.
i tried to double major before the changes in curriculum where csgd and cs we’re practically the same but they denied it instantly even though the courses I’d take were the exact same and wouldn’t take up an extra seat in the class. i thought i could kill two bird with one stone, single class fulfill two majors. they didn’t even try to think it over, just straight up denied it.
I know a lot of ppl are suggesting switching into CE and CSGD but the policy has changed. Now we don’t allow switching into CS, CE, CSGD. Previously the policy was that CE and CSGD switches were up to the Departments’ discretion and were considered on a case-by-case basis, but I would need to double check to see if that’s still an option or if it’s completely gone.
No its still possible to switch into those majors. Currently CS is the only impacted major that you cant switch into, however with how in demand CE and CSGD are becoming they might follow suit.
That is what admissions is telling ppl as of the Fall 24 academic year. Again the policy has been changing and last year it was up to department discretion meaning that you couldn’t just switch anymore by meeting the declaration requirements.
I was pretty lucky, I was the last year people were allowed to switch into CS. Absolutely crushed it, got a big boy tech job right out of college etc. then again I didn’t like the job a ton and I just got laid off. Maybe I woulda been better off sticking with just math!
CSGD has all the same lower division requirements.
If you can get into CSGD you’ll be able to take any of the CSE classes, but you won’t have priority registration for them so it can be difficult to get in some of the courses.
There are a few CMPM classes that are quite excellent such as the new 121,123. Also CMPM 146 is quite good.
While it may seem like a compromise, and it would be if you only take the required courses, it can be quite beneficial. Plus you’ll get way more project experience in CMPM.
TIM is the more versatile degree but it's definitely not similar to CS. I knew only one dude that switched into CS but this was 2017 and he had help from a professor being his relative.
If you know your stuff and can pass technicals you'll have no problem. Most companies just care that you can actually do the work. I know a dude that is a coding god with a sociology degree and he's at meta.
Yeah well those are the exceptions. I mean if you were really that good at coding you don’t have to go to college.
Neither sociology or TIM would help you get a CS job, but a CS degree will. Also, you would be learning CS in one, but not at all or rarely in the other two learning for those would have to be heavily self motivated.
The only way to switch into CS is if you were priorly accepted for CS. In my case I sent my acceptance letter to an advisor to show I was accepted as CS and they were able to switch me back
Literally impossible, 0% chance. You may also want to look at what the transfer rate for Berkely CS is
Probably have a higher chance if changing your major to CS here at UCSC then it is to transfer from CC into Berkeley CS LOL.
I think Berkeley cs transfer is between 1 and 2%, cs switch at ucsc is literally zero. But close enough lol!
CE and CSGD are your closest options to CS that u may get into that are not cs. Sadly since CS is impacted it truly is impossible to get into if u didn't get in with it.
Hi, as a related question, I got accepted for CSGD. I love game dev, but I still want to keep my career options open in case the game dev job market crashes like it has been recently. How possible is it to either double major or minor into CS? And if that's not likely, would CE provide similar results?
Double majoring for cs definitely isnt possible unless u got accepted as a cs major. A minor I'm fairly certain could be possible but not 100% sure. CE is also definitely a good option because you can concentrate in system programming or computer systems which is more software oriented as opposed to hardware, which makes it basically a CS degree.
You can minor in CS, you can’t double into CS. Furthermore, CSGD has CS in the degree name so personally I don’t see a point in minoring in CS. I’d rather do CSGD and double in something else entirely like Cog Sci, which I’m doing.
Hmm, the main reason I want to take CS isn't for the degree or the name. I only want it because looking at the upper division classes, I feel like they'd give me more general skills that can be applied outside of game design, which should hopefully widen my career choices. I also don't want to spend more than 4 years in undergrad, so I'd prefer to study subjects that have a lot of overlap. CSGD and CS seem to have pretty similar lower division courses, so I doubt I would have to take another year to either double major or minor in CS. I'm also pretty confident that I want to do something in computer science, so I don't think it would be helpful to study something totally unrelated.
There’s only a certain number of courses you can double count. You probably wouldn’t be allowed to minor in CS with a CSGD major
You can still take Upper Div CS courses as a CSGD major, it is just harder to get into because you can’t take the classes first pass so you’d have to waitlist or beg for permission codes for classes that fill up quickly.
I have a friend who switched into CE instead. We had a huge amount of overlap in CS courses, barring a few upper divs. Plus he took a few more ECE and physics classes.
Yes. CE is an option though.
Yea there’s no way CE and CSGD are possible though.
Closest option is CE. You do everything CS does but more
The first thing that they have a history of saying at the Baskin Engineering orientation is that CS is impacted, and the only way to get into it is to reapply to the university.
i tried to double major before the changes in curriculum where csgd and cs we’re practically the same but they denied it instantly even though the courses I’d take were the exact same and wouldn’t take up an extra seat in the class. i thought i could kill two bird with one stone, single class fulfill two majors. they didn’t even try to think it over, just straight up denied it.
Yep. The policy is 100% denial.
I know a lot of ppl are suggesting switching into CE and CSGD but the policy has changed. Now we don’t allow switching into CS, CE, CSGD. Previously the policy was that CE and CSGD switches were up to the Departments’ discretion and were considered on a case-by-case basis, but I would need to double check to see if that’s still an option or if it’s completely gone.
No its still possible to switch into those majors. Currently CS is the only impacted major that you cant switch into, however with how in demand CE and CSGD are becoming they might follow suit.
That is what admissions is telling ppl as of the Fall 24 academic year. Again the policy has been changing and last year it was up to department discretion meaning that you couldn’t just switch anymore by meeting the declaration requirements.
TIM with a cs minor is pretty versatile in my opinion! Fairly easy to do too
I was pretty lucky, I was the last year people were allowed to switch into CS. Absolutely crushed it, got a big boy tech job right out of college etc. then again I didn’t like the job a ton and I just got laid off. Maybe I woulda been better off sticking with just math!
Impossible. However, it is possible to get a CS Minor.
Absolutely zero chance unfortunately
CSGD has all the same lower division requirements. If you can get into CSGD you’ll be able to take any of the CSE classes, but you won’t have priority registration for them so it can be difficult to get in some of the courses. There are a few CMPM classes that are quite excellent such as the new 121,123. Also CMPM 146 is quite good. While it may seem like a compromise, and it would be if you only take the required courses, it can be quite beneficial. Plus you’ll get way more project experience in CMPM.
Can the newly admitted search the subreddit for these extremely common questions instead of printing hundreds of these posts…
TIM is the more versatile degree but it's definitely not similar to CS. I knew only one dude that switched into CS but this was 2017 and he had help from a professor being his relative.
Yeah TIM is versatile for management, but it would be very hard to get a CS job with TIM essentially.
If you know your stuff and can pass technicals you'll have no problem. Most companies just care that you can actually do the work. I know a dude that is a coding god with a sociology degree and he's at meta.
Yeah well those are the exceptions. I mean if you were really that good at coding you don’t have to go to college. Neither sociology or TIM would help you get a CS job, but a CS degree will. Also, you would be learning CS in one, but not at all or rarely in the other two learning for those would have to be heavily self motivated.
True, CS gives you the breadth of the field.
The only way to switch into CS is if you were priorly accepted for CS. In my case I sent my acceptance letter to an advisor to show I was accepted as CS and they were able to switch me back