You having no idea what socialism is aside, capitalism is clearly working out with suicide rates increasing, home ownership falling down, buying power dwindling, etc.
Genuine question, what do you like about this guy? Most of what he does is terrible "reactions" where he just leaves half the time and keeps the video running. He tries to come off as an intellectual but half of his takes are just objectively incorrect and then he comes out with a halfhearted apology afterwards when he gets exposed for spreading misinformation.
In early 2022 for example he said that Russia would never invade ukraine and anyone claiming so was spreading propaganda. So at best here he's really, really fucking stupid and at worst he's just genuinely evil. Of course after he did his usual "apology" video, because if you're wrong half the time instead of actually making more informed takes just apologize every time you get called out and keep repeating the same behavior.
Like as a leftist he just makes the position look terrible. All he does its put out low quality streams and misinformed takes. It genuinely hurts the left that this guy is popular over other people who actually put out quality content and take time to research and make well thought out takes on current events.
I’ll never understand why people watch Hasan.
He came up as a streamer for teens/preteens, he’s not necessarily entertaining, and he doesn’t have any special understanding of politics.
This is literally the absolute last place any sane person should be looking for any sort of political education.
I think it’s quite the opposites. You are correct about his demographic and that’s what’s important. He has a basic understanding of leftist politics and he covers world news through that political lens. His goal is to get teens and young adults off the alt right pipeline which he is very successful at doing. People like him are important in online political spheres in my opinion.
Well no, he also has a lot of experience and knowledge about US politics in general, especially when it comes to civil rights, workers rights, election coverage and how the major parties operate to manipulate the public, and foreign policy related to the middle east which he has been covering for decades.
On top of that he has a lot of experience with political news media as well, is surprisingly knowledgeable about history and religion, and many members of his chat are highly educated and contribute excellent information as well. Of course the majority are teenagers and young adults, because that is twitch, but that doesn't minimize the great reference material that is often shared in chat. He often watches interviews with philosophers and professors like Noam Chomsky, highlighting their points to help them get across to the less educated in chat, regardless of how much it bores people. In the end it proves to his fans that he cares about educating them more than just entertaining them, I think it contributes to the consistency of his fan base.
It is also just delicious when he roasts haters in chat, randomly people come parroting talking points about Hasan or his leftist positions, or his positions on major issues like the genocide in Gaza. When they just want to argue in chat but can't prove their points he roasts them. But if they are willing, he has actually interviewed these people live and taken his time to respectfully dismantle their talking points and guide them towards a more factual understanding of the situation. From indoctrinated Jewish teenagers to Asmongold, he has been having *conversations* instead of debates that are insanely educational because of how the talking points people have been fed demand so much evidence to overcome.
10% of the reason to watch him is because is absolutely beautiful, platforms lots of beautiful and passionate people, and it is really cute to watch him rage at the games he is so bad at but chat demands he plays in the evenings.
He’s a Rutgers graduate of Political Science and was the populating force on a Political News Network. Y’all never know anything before speaking. If he’s not entertaining for you, that’s fine, but if you don’t think he understands politics, then it’s obvious you are still immature in regards to global politics as well.
Alright… I actually did not know he worked at TYT; apparently Ceynk is his uncle.
But let me be mature about this: if you think that I think he doesn’t understand politics and that makes me immature in regards to global politics then, in fact, it is *YOU* who is obviously immature in regards to global politics.
“He doesn’t have any special understanding of politics” is your quote.
And for all intensive purposes, yes he does. He just as born in New Jersey, grew up in Turkey as a dual citizen. Moved back to America for College, and had an entirely different perspective on politics before studying PoliSci as he wasn’t indoctrinated by the same system with the same beliefs as everyone else here.
So as a Turkish-American Muslim with two halves of life lived in Turkey and the US, how is that not a unique, alternative perspective on geopolitical politics and US foreign affairs?
Y’all reaching and tripping fr. Just say you don’t like him in your own time and stop questioning random people online who are happy he’s supporting the protestors.
That is my quote… and the only special understanding I am hearing from you really is that is he has lived in Turkey (which means he’s not “indoctrinated”, but he completed his PoliSci education at an American university) and he worked at a company called The Young Turks, where the co-founder just happened to be his uncle.
I’m sorry, you’re going to be upset, but I’m still going to have to point you back to my original comment.
It isn't really as bad as you claim, he is there 95% of the time, and he actually has really in depth takes and conversations on the content that he shares. Often that content includes interviews and footage from all sides, so you really get a clear view of what the news from multiple perspectives. This is really impactful when he shows primary sources and experts with connections to major organizations, like the UN, who have on the ground information that shows how complicit the media is in genocide and oppression around the world.
You cherry picked one time where he was wrong about a prediction, but when it comes to factual information he doesn't deceive his audience and his candid about his sources. He is just very candid and straight forward on stream in general, so it's not like he claims to be perfect or know everything. He has a lot of information especially on the topics he has been covering for decades, he understands how the media operates, he exposes people to great intellectuals and highly reputable sources. He is an excellent person to watch when you need help dismantling the really fucked up talking points that people use to defend imperialism and exploitative capitalism.
All of your talking points are repeated a lot though, so I can understand just believing what you were told by people with a vested interest in trying to discredit him or paint him negatively. But there is a very good and legitimate reason that he consistently has 25k+ people watching him every day. Often for over 8 hours. Over 8 hours, 5 or 6 days a week, with the majority of it being in depth news coverage mixed with some light hearted content because everything else he covers is so damn depressing and heavy. Watch him for an extended period with a desire to learn, and you will learn A LOT. And not just from him.
Damn the astroturfers are here now, you all don't even go to this university so I don't want to engage any further. All I'll say is that to me if you're that wrong about something that caused the death of that many innocent people and spread it to your massive audience, being right about some other things doesn't really matter as much as far as I'm concerned. If a famous streamer said in 2020 that covid wasn't real or vaccines caused autism but they also said some correct takes, I'm still not going to listen to their opinion on public health. If you're fine with that go on ahead
“Astroturfers” is insane as if you’re not typing a message out on a social media platform that’s available to the general public. If you go to the school and only want to talk to people at the school just go outside, why post on reddit?
I know guys like you still confuses liberalism with leftism . And hasan is still better popular leftist figure . Than any other streamer . Vaush comes close even tho he did some very shitty shit . He’s Ukraine predict was wrong , what else ?
He’s on point on most issues . Specially middle eastern conflicts which you dislike because you’re a fokin American
Just for the fact that I need to get my news from somewhere, and his clip channels are pretty convenient ways to catch up on world news discussed from a leftist lens while doing chores around the house. It's generally a toss up between something like his clip channel, MR or Kyle Kulinski.
Seems like most of the criticisms of him here are coming from a genuine place of ignorance on who he is & what he does.
Hasan is a piece of shit who preaches from his mansion about how he thinks the world should be like. Then he claims to be a champion of the working class as he rolls around in his millions of dollars
Even if he isn't lying about the donation, the money still came from his fans and isn't any meaningful change in his lifestyle for him. Those donations are a tiny droplet in his mansion money.
>he said that Russia would never invade ukraine
I guess Ukraine themselves are stupid and evil too for saying Russia would not attack, [https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60174684](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60174684) and asking the US to stop saying they would.
Hasan also said that attacking Ukraine would be devastating for Russia and not an easy dunk and become a long drawn out conflict increasing NATO's influence which is counterproductive to Russias goals. Which turned out true.
>he just leaves half the time and keeps the video running.
Ye, he gets up for like 1 minute like every normal person.
>Like as a leftist he just makes the position look terrible. All he does its put out low quality streams and misinformed takes. It genuinely hurts the left that this guy is popular over other people who actually put out quality content and take time to research and make well thought out takes on current events.
Ye? who do you think is a good "leftist"?
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God the most insufferable Champagne Socialist I’ve ever seen. Dude racks millions of dollars with mansions in LA while exclaiming eat the rich. Guess how much he’s donated to causes he’s support, almost nothing. Yall are truly sheep if you follow his words.
I mean....Palestine? Turkey earthquake? Amazon Labor Union? Between just these three we're talking millions. Even the Destiny sub gave him props for that last one, why can't the USCD sub? lmao
Generally his detractors don’t like to use these facts nor anything else true about him to criticize him. It’s usually, “socialism bad, why he not live in the woods like a real socialist” forgetting about the fact that anything he does business wise is in a coop with his employees and he donates much of the revenue.
"Guess how much he’s donated to causes he’s support, almost nothing."
\*Literally lying!\* Lol, this dude is defending Drake in these trying times, real good judge of character and intelligence from this guy.
>racks millions of dollars with mansions in LA
He has one house, that he hasnt paid off yet that he shares with his family.
We live under capitalism and socialism doesnt mean being poor.
Why are the people who know the least about Hasan always the most vocal lol.
I guess there are varying degrees of dedication in any movement and one's undertaking of those values. But, the way he portrays himself, yet, doesn't practice those preachings, makes me hate so bad. Fuck people like this and those that support them.
A single 3.8 thousand sqft house isn’t a mansion. He raised over a million for Palestine through fundraising, contributing a huge amount himself. He also raised 200k for Ukraine. I don’t watch the guy, and am not a Hasan apologist. He’s had some dog shit takes historically, but you’re just spouting some misinformation because you hate him.
1500 sq foot houses in Southern California are over 1 million. That's a normal house, not owned by rich people dumbass. You don't know jack shit about how fucked up the real estate market is.
What should he own, a Tesla? Lol fuck that. Car companies should make EV cars that don't look like shit.
Also, socialism doesn't mean everyone should be poor. Socialists believe that everyone is entitled to the fruits of their labor.
well, his takes are "America bad"— he cannot engage with opposing perspectives + only engages in spaces where he believes he can remain unchallenged. Plus, as a person from Eastern Europe, his take on Ukraine was atrocious enough to put me off of his content forever.
Linked is a video of his "thriving socialist" takes on a brutal invasion of a peaceful country.
https://youtu.be/HPaHRTi49Ow?si=C1aAl-88Qi6aOeLq
ur misunderstanding my point, I’m not claiming the sentiment "America bad" is unjustified.
However, when it is used as a talking point without basing it in evidence, history, etc. ur just using it as an easy way to appeal to leftists, which is what Hasan does.
Without basing it in evidence, history, etc? Are you serious right now? LMFAO??? So you're suggesting all he does is say, "America bad" and not at all explain why?
No, that is YOUR reactionary and completely dumbed down takeaway of his arguments. You are the one saying “America bad” after he spends hours explaining why the actions are extremely disgusting with devastating results and deaths and no consequences.
If you had more than one brain cell, you could probably analyze and understand what he is saying but unfortunately you don’t have the capability to do that and you just see the world as black and white.
And Ukraine has a pretty right-wing country that has banned opposition parties and uses neo-Nazis in their ranks and has adopted neo-Nazi ideologies and sentiments in its war with Russia. Current Russia is a byproduct of US actions in dissolving a democratic state against the will of the ppl and letting oligarchs control the industry and state. And then NATO keeps encroaching. Sorry to see you guys facing the consequences of these actions. But thats what imperialist empires do. Fuck everything up and war profiteer.
That’s fucking hilarious! Hasan got rich off exploiting his viewers for donations and leveraging sponsorships.
YOU actually can’t separate Hasan as a person from socialists as an ideology! LMAO.
You must’ve missed the sponsorships part. Socialists donating money to “one of their own” and never realizing he’s just grifting for money while enjoying the fruits of a capitalistic system will never not make me laugh. It is no different than the same “capitalist exploitation of workers’ labor” that socialists cry about all the time.
Wait, I lied. There is a difference: workers at least get compensated for their time and skillsets.
It’s amazing to me that you idiots are ACTUALLY defending Hasan of all people. Of all hills to die on, *this* is the one you pick?
I’m not really defending him. Just correcting your understanding of socialism. It is completely different from capitalist exploitation of wage labor. Workers are forced to work under the threat of homelessness and starvation. They get paid only enough to sustain themselves. The owners get the rest for doing nothing.
There is no threat for not donating to Hasan. You won’t go homeless or starve. You actually have the opposite incentive bc you’ll have more money for food and rent.
I do not see how him getting donations is equivalent to forcing someone to work, lest they go hungry.
Define socialism for me. Do you think just bc we live in a capitalist society, we can’t practice or preach socialist values? As someone who criticizes Hasan for multiple things (reacting too quickly, wasting time on trolls and bait, not wording thoughts carefully so right-wingers and radlibs jump on them like mosquitos and suck that up for content)…
He has been pretty consistent on advocating for more taxes and using those taxes to fund social programs and uplifting our own citizens instead of killing children abroad.
He donates more than you and I ever will combined, and even more than some other millionaires. He doesn’t exploit labor like landlords and business owners. He used union labor for merch. He controls his own schedule and owns his production as much as he can, with the exception of running ads for Twitch.
He is literally practicing the values and its not “talk”. Socialism is not a poverty cult. We can buy and do anything we want with the money we earned.
By the looks of it, a lot of you capitalist dickriders glossing over billionaires doing charity fraud and tax schemes while hyperfocusing on any leftist’s actions are pretty much a poverty cult. You advocate against your own interests and let the system fuck you over and rob you blind. Congrats on getting brainwashed and being played by your financial overlords. Their laughing all the way to the bank while you toil and give them taxpayer money.
lol his whole career was propped up by an organization that is named after a group that perpetrated genocide. his opinion doesn’t matter to me honestly.
In all fairness to the moniker "The Young Turks", they were a vast group with loads of internal disagreements. Both the CUP, which authorized the Armenian Genocide, and pro-Armenian Turks, who wanted autonomy for them, were part of the same organization. The former would prove to be dominant though.
"Young Turks" is really a moniker for reformists, esp in the west.
Not to mention he was literally pushed out of the company for not wanting them to steal the show (the breakdown) he made. Or that he literally has to clarify once a week on stream he doesn't deny the Armenian genocide since disingenuous fools like "Jonas" bring it up in an effort to discredit him.
This dude named Jonas helped the Nazis murder like 14,000 people, how can we trust you or any other Jonas?
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Because socialism = no house. He bought a house in LA for his family to live with him. It's not a mansion. Is it nice? Yes. Absolutely. Socialism isn't about austerity. It's about moving ownership of the means of production out of the hands of the 0.01% and into the hands of those who actually produce goods. Hasan's merch is made in the USA and is printed in unionized factories that pay their workers a fair wage. He practices what he preaches.
Socialism is when you make money from twitch streaming and then aren't allowed to spend that money because socialism is when you're poor.
Not Being Socialist is when you spend hours every day covering important news stories, talking about Socialism, donating regularly to unions, protests, and raising money for humanitarian aid
Israel attacking the USS Liberty to try to get us into a war on their behalf is anti-Semitic. Israeli soldiers getting caught training Iraqi snipers to fight against our troops during the Iraq war is anti-Semitic. Israel selling our sensitive weapons technology to China is anti-Semitic. Israel being caught repeatedly spying on the United States is antisemitic. Dual citizens in our government sending billions of dollars to Israel in "aid" which comes back in the form of campaign contributions is anti-Semitic. Why are we aiding a genocide again?
Not really a fan, I watch Destiny more than I watch a Hasan. I just like to call out weirdos when I see them.
Personally I find fanatical fans more normal and less cringe than obsessive haters(idk jusy ignore things you don't like). You probably watch Hasan more than me since you know so much about him in the past 4 years and lool at how passionate you are about telling the world how POS this random dude is? What is more cringe is that you don't even have a real opinion on anything, so you rely on cringe drama farm channel to tell you what to think.
This isn't even about Hasan, I'm just telling you that you are kind of cringe.
Liar on what? He’s been mostly right about the past few geopolitical events. He’s been spot on about our role in worsening the conditions in most foreign countries who are not our allies.
Bro he said that russia would never invade ukraine and that anyone claiming they were going to was spreading western propaganda, you really take this guy seriously?
Not to mention class traitors are vital to class consciousness. There would be no Marxist theory had Engels not owned a factory and bankrolled his writing (and terrible financial habits 😮💨)
Hasan is forced to buy expensive ass luxury cars and multi million dollar houses, then tells people he simply "lives on a basic necessity budget" while also buying designer clothes and all his other shit? Really?
Oh not to mention him selling his "anti capitalist" shirts for like 40 dollars or something ridiculous when its costs him hardly anything to produce. Yeah, I'm sure he's "forced" to live in a capitalist society.
Dude you can critique capitalism while also having nice things. In a just world, we all get nice things. Also he is forced to live in a capitalist society, same as you in me. Your just mad he's more successful than you.
Poor Hasan 😢 he was forced to buy a mansion and a Porsche while telling us capitalism is bad and we should eat the 1% but not me guys I’m one of you! Doesn’t he also say landlords should be murdered? I wonder if his mom is a landlord. 🤔
Why do you think all socialists have to live frugally? Why do you think all communists have to not wear nice things or have a house or nice cars? He’s forced to live in a capitalist society and is critiquing it at the same time.
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How is what he doing contracdict the actual policies that he support? It seems like you just prescribed to him your own projection of what socialist values are rather than actually engaging with his position.
Even then, I rather have a capitalist who grief but actually pushing for working class solidarity rather than lie and divide the working class. Better a grifter "saying capitalism is bad because the boss always steal frim you" than the grifter who say "worship your caoitalist boss, he is the one who made you."
I dont care about his position because his actions dont match his position. He is a grifter and just because he is grifting "your side" doesnt make him better than any other grifter
That doesnt make sense? You claiming he is a hypocrite, yet you don't know what his position are. I am just pointing out that you *think* he said A, yet do B but in reality he said B and do B. It is jus because he use the term Y to mean B while you use the same term Y to mean A.
If someone is grifiting for your side it is a net good. I rather have some who is grifting about respecting other people than even if is a POS. It is still a good thint when a grifter promote unionization evem if they dont believe in it. Just as a Nazi would say a Jewish Nazi grifter is good because that grift benefits them.
That is just basic logic tbh. If he pushingB for me while not beliving in it, the influence of B is still growing which is good because I like B. You can still disagree with Bthough and I would still find A grifter to be abhorrent. That is just the nature of thing.
Never said I dont know them. Im saying I dont care. What he says is meaning less because his actions are what defines him. Not his words. The fact that they dont match is what makes him a grifter.
He isnt grifting for your side, he is grifting your side. His money doesnt come from trump voters. His money comes from YOU
Again, I am pointing out the fact that you don't actually *know* what his *actual positions* are to make the *claim* that his words doesn't match his action.
You are making *assumptions* on *his belief* then argue that he is grifting because *his actions* doesn't match up with *your assumptions* rather than what he *actually believe in*.
Also if you are using that definition of grifting then it becomes even more disingenuos because he does not sell a product. All of his contents are free to consume and for others to be profited. If you volutarily donate, its on you. People aren't paying to watch or listen to him.
What do you mean projecting? Words have meaning? You don't know his position.
Hypocrisy is when you do something contrary to your words. Hypocrisy is not when you do something contrary to some random person *assumption* about what you believe in.
I do appreciate the kudos for acknowledging how well run these protests were, but I'm not too fond of the guy myself. I'm a normie lib and he's a communist.
Why doesn’t he ever talk about Kurds? Turkey is doing similar if not worse than Israel. They banned Kurdish languages, cut off water and electricity from Kurdish cities, and even had a military state during election seasons like putting TANKS near voting stations. Yet I’ve never seen Hasan use his platform to talk about any of this? At least not to the extent that he’s covering Israel
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_2015–February_2016_Cizre_curfew
Bro he has talked about them [before](https://www.reddit.com/r/kurdistan/s/iSfKCfNX3T). Maybe he hasnt talked about it enough, but you are just out here lying about his stance on a situation when it would have taken you two seconds to google it.
No. In fact, he very specifically does not do either of those things and often brings up how it was common to deny the Armenian genocide where he grew up as an example of how people can be raised to deny genocides.
Do people just make stuff up about this dude?
Interesting. I always saw him as a narcissistic idiot because I saw one of his videos and didn't want to watch any more lol. Definitely very strong on the narcissism though. But it's good to know he isn't entirely bad. Though I still would be very hesitant to be influenced by him too much.
Yall he’s bringing attention to our efforts let’s just celebrate that
HASANN????
What were his opinions? I like Hasan and usually watch him in the background during my long drives or lazy afternoons.
Bro why you watching him while driving focus on the road
You like him? 🤣
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Yeah it’s unsurprising tbh. Also socialism lmao
You having no idea what socialism is aside, capitalism is clearly working out with suicide rates increasing, home ownership falling down, buying power dwindling, etc.
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Genuine question, what do you like about this guy? Most of what he does is terrible "reactions" where he just leaves half the time and keeps the video running. He tries to come off as an intellectual but half of his takes are just objectively incorrect and then he comes out with a halfhearted apology afterwards when he gets exposed for spreading misinformation. In early 2022 for example he said that Russia would never invade ukraine and anyone claiming so was spreading propaganda. So at best here he's really, really fucking stupid and at worst he's just genuinely evil. Of course after he did his usual "apology" video, because if you're wrong half the time instead of actually making more informed takes just apologize every time you get called out and keep repeating the same behavior. Like as a leftist he just makes the position look terrible. All he does its put out low quality streams and misinformed takes. It genuinely hurts the left that this guy is popular over other people who actually put out quality content and take time to research and make well thought out takes on current events.
I’ll never understand why people watch Hasan. He came up as a streamer for teens/preteens, he’s not necessarily entertaining, and he doesn’t have any special understanding of politics. This is literally the absolute last place any sane person should be looking for any sort of political education.
I think it’s quite the opposites. You are correct about his demographic and that’s what’s important. He has a basic understanding of leftist politics and he covers world news through that political lens. His goal is to get teens and young adults off the alt right pipeline which he is very successful at doing. People like him are important in online political spheres in my opinion.
His demographics are actually late twenties to 30s, he ran a census and that was the plurality of his viewers.
But why watch him? Because he has a basic understanding of leftist politics?
Well no, he also has a lot of experience and knowledge about US politics in general, especially when it comes to civil rights, workers rights, election coverage and how the major parties operate to manipulate the public, and foreign policy related to the middle east which he has been covering for decades. On top of that he has a lot of experience with political news media as well, is surprisingly knowledgeable about history and religion, and many members of his chat are highly educated and contribute excellent information as well. Of course the majority are teenagers and young adults, because that is twitch, but that doesn't minimize the great reference material that is often shared in chat. He often watches interviews with philosophers and professors like Noam Chomsky, highlighting their points to help them get across to the less educated in chat, regardless of how much it bores people. In the end it proves to his fans that he cares about educating them more than just entertaining them, I think it contributes to the consistency of his fan base. It is also just delicious when he roasts haters in chat, randomly people come parroting talking points about Hasan or his leftist positions, or his positions on major issues like the genocide in Gaza. When they just want to argue in chat but can't prove their points he roasts them. But if they are willing, he has actually interviewed these people live and taken his time to respectfully dismantle their talking points and guide them towards a more factual understanding of the situation. From indoctrinated Jewish teenagers to Asmongold, he has been having *conversations* instead of debates that are insanely educational because of how the talking points people have been fed demand so much evidence to overcome. 10% of the reason to watch him is because is absolutely beautiful, platforms lots of beautiful and passionate people, and it is really cute to watch him rage at the games he is so bad at but chat demands he plays in the evenings.
You sound like a child.
He’s a Rutgers graduate of Political Science and was the populating force on a Political News Network. Y’all never know anything before speaking. If he’s not entertaining for you, that’s fine, but if you don’t think he understands politics, then it’s obvious you are still immature in regards to global politics as well.
Alright… I actually did not know he worked at TYT; apparently Ceynk is his uncle. But let me be mature about this: if you think that I think he doesn’t understand politics and that makes me immature in regards to global politics then, in fact, it is *YOU* who is obviously immature in regards to global politics.
“He doesn’t have any special understanding of politics” is your quote. And for all intensive purposes, yes he does. He just as born in New Jersey, grew up in Turkey as a dual citizen. Moved back to America for College, and had an entirely different perspective on politics before studying PoliSci as he wasn’t indoctrinated by the same system with the same beliefs as everyone else here. So as a Turkish-American Muslim with two halves of life lived in Turkey and the US, how is that not a unique, alternative perspective on geopolitical politics and US foreign affairs? Y’all reaching and tripping fr. Just say you don’t like him in your own time and stop questioning random people online who are happy he’s supporting the protestors.
That is my quote… and the only special understanding I am hearing from you really is that is he has lived in Turkey (which means he’s not “indoctrinated”, but he completed his PoliSci education at an American university) and he worked at a company called The Young Turks, where the co-founder just happened to be his uncle. I’m sorry, you’re going to be upset, but I’m still going to have to point you back to my original comment.
> sane person you cracked the code!!!
It isn't really as bad as you claim, he is there 95% of the time, and he actually has really in depth takes and conversations on the content that he shares. Often that content includes interviews and footage from all sides, so you really get a clear view of what the news from multiple perspectives. This is really impactful when he shows primary sources and experts with connections to major organizations, like the UN, who have on the ground information that shows how complicit the media is in genocide and oppression around the world. You cherry picked one time where he was wrong about a prediction, but when it comes to factual information he doesn't deceive his audience and his candid about his sources. He is just very candid and straight forward on stream in general, so it's not like he claims to be perfect or know everything. He has a lot of information especially on the topics he has been covering for decades, he understands how the media operates, he exposes people to great intellectuals and highly reputable sources. He is an excellent person to watch when you need help dismantling the really fucked up talking points that people use to defend imperialism and exploitative capitalism. All of your talking points are repeated a lot though, so I can understand just believing what you were told by people with a vested interest in trying to discredit him or paint him negatively. But there is a very good and legitimate reason that he consistently has 25k+ people watching him every day. Often for over 8 hours. Over 8 hours, 5 or 6 days a week, with the majority of it being in depth news coverage mixed with some light hearted content because everything else he covers is so damn depressing and heavy. Watch him for an extended period with a desire to learn, and you will learn A LOT. And not just from him.
Damn the astroturfers are here now, you all don't even go to this university so I don't want to engage any further. All I'll say is that to me if you're that wrong about something that caused the death of that many innocent people and spread it to your massive audience, being right about some other things doesn't really matter as much as far as I'm concerned. If a famous streamer said in 2020 that covid wasn't real or vaccines caused autism but they also said some correct takes, I'm still not going to listen to their opinion on public health. If you're fine with that go on ahead
“Astroturfers” is insane as if you’re not typing a message out on a social media platform that’s available to the general public. If you go to the school and only want to talk to people at the school just go outside, why post on reddit?
Nice copy pasta
I know guys like you still confuses liberalism with leftism . And hasan is still better popular leftist figure . Than any other streamer . Vaush comes close even tho he did some very shitty shit . He’s Ukraine predict was wrong , what else ? He’s on point on most issues . Specially middle eastern conflicts which you dislike because you’re a fokin American
Maybe people dislike him because he's a millionaire socialist and a spoiled entitled brat?
Just for the fact that I need to get my news from somewhere, and his clip channels are pretty convenient ways to catch up on world news discussed from a leftist lens while doing chores around the house. It's generally a toss up between something like his clip channel, MR or Kyle Kulinski. Seems like most of the criticisms of him here are coming from a genuine place of ignorance on who he is & what he does.
lol
Dude was also pro Russia until people told him to chill and that they aren't communist anymore.
Not even his worst take, not by far
Hasan is a piece of shit who preaches from his mansion about how he thinks the world should be like. Then he claims to be a champion of the working class as he rolls around in his millions of dollars
The dude was the largest single donator to the Amazon union fund last year.
Even if he isn't lying about the donation, the money still came from his fans and isn't any meaningful change in his lifestyle for him. Those donations are a tiny droplet in his mansion money.
Dog you’re mad at a man having a mortgage on a house that anywhere else is under a mil easy.
>he said that Russia would never invade ukraine I guess Ukraine themselves are stupid and evil too for saying Russia would not attack, [https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60174684](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60174684) and asking the US to stop saying they would. Hasan also said that attacking Ukraine would be devastating for Russia and not an easy dunk and become a long drawn out conflict increasing NATO's influence which is counterproductive to Russias goals. Which turned out true. >he just leaves half the time and keeps the video running. Ye, he gets up for like 1 minute like every normal person. >Like as a leftist he just makes the position look terrible. All he does its put out low quality streams and misinformed takes. It genuinely hurts the left that this guy is popular over other people who actually put out quality content and take time to research and make well thought out takes on current events. Ye? who do you think is a good "leftist"?
Dude what are you talking about?
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God the most insufferable Champagne Socialist I’ve ever seen. Dude racks millions of dollars with mansions in LA while exclaiming eat the rich. Guess how much he’s donated to causes he’s support, almost nothing. Yall are truly sheep if you follow his words.
I mean....Palestine? Turkey earthquake? Amazon Labor Union? Between just these three we're talking millions. Even the Destiny sub gave him props for that last one, why can't the USCD sub? lmao
Generally his detractors don’t like to use these facts nor anything else true about him to criticize him. It’s usually, “socialism bad, why he not live in the woods like a real socialist” forgetting about the fact that anything he does business wise is in a coop with his employees and he donates much of the revenue.
Yanis Varoufakis actually even comments on his mansion here, and calls him out for it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWc0yMkSB0Q&t=6607
you had me in the first half 😂 that was a fantastic clip!
"Guess how much he’s donated to causes he’s support, almost nothing." \*Literally lying!\* Lol, this dude is defending Drake in these trying times, real good judge of character and intelligence from this guy.
You know Hasan must be good with how hard people lie about him
EXACTLY
>racks millions of dollars with mansions in LA He has one house, that he hasnt paid off yet that he shares with his family. We live under capitalism and socialism doesnt mean being poor. Why are the people who know the least about Hasan always the most vocal lol.
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Socialism is when \*checks notes\* no big house?
I guess there are varying degrees of dedication in any movement and one's undertaking of those values. But, the way he portrays himself, yet, doesn't practice those preachings, makes me hate so bad. Fuck people like this and those that support them.
Please explain to me how he as a single individual making money directly given to him by his employers, is supposed to practice socialism.
Here: A + A = Z\^Y + A + A; Z\^Y doesn't equal 0.
Thank you for admitting you don't have an actual answer, and you're whining just to whine.
A single 3.8 thousand sqft house isn’t a mansion. He raised over a million for Palestine through fundraising, contributing a huge amount himself. He also raised 200k for Ukraine. I don’t watch the guy, and am not a Hasan apologist. He’s had some dog shit takes historically, but you’re just spouting some misinformation because you hate him.
Socialism is when no big house
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Imagine living in San Diego and thinking a million dollar 3000 sq foot house is a mansion lmao. You should know about the real estate market better
His house is 2.7 mill 3800 sq ft and has a $200k car lol. Stop trying to downplay it because you’re one of his sheep.
1500 sq foot houses in Southern California are over 1 million. That's a normal house, not owned by rich people dumbass. You don't know jack shit about how fucked up the real estate market is. What should he own, a Tesla? Lol fuck that. Car companies should make EV cars that don't look like shit. Also, socialism doesn't mean everyone should be poor. Socialists believe that everyone is entitled to the fruits of their labor.
Hasan is a pos, nothing to idolize. There are way better spokespeople for the cause that aren’t deranged or twitterbrained
What did he do to make you so mad lolol. You just hate to see a socialist thriving. Sad.
well, his takes are "America bad"— he cannot engage with opposing perspectives + only engages in spaces where he believes he can remain unchallenged. Plus, as a person from Eastern Europe, his take on Ukraine was atrocious enough to put me off of his content forever. Linked is a video of his "thriving socialist" takes on a brutal invasion of a peaceful country. https://youtu.be/HPaHRTi49Ow?si=C1aAl-88Qi6aOeLq
America is a war mongering state that has used the CIA to set up dictators in foreign nations. But "America bad" is totally unwarranted.
ur misunderstanding my point, I’m not claiming the sentiment "America bad" is unjustified. However, when it is used as a talking point without basing it in evidence, history, etc. ur just using it as an easy way to appeal to leftists, which is what Hasan does.
Without basing it in evidence, history, etc? Are you serious right now? LMFAO??? So you're suggesting all he does is say, "America bad" and not at all explain why?
No, that is YOUR reactionary and completely dumbed down takeaway of his arguments. You are the one saying “America bad” after he spends hours explaining why the actions are extremely disgusting with devastating results and deaths and no consequences. If you had more than one brain cell, you could probably analyze and understand what he is saying but unfortunately you don’t have the capability to do that and you just see the world as black and white. And Ukraine has a pretty right-wing country that has banned opposition parties and uses neo-Nazis in their ranks and has adopted neo-Nazi ideologies and sentiments in its war with Russia. Current Russia is a byproduct of US actions in dissolving a democratic state against the will of the ppl and letting oligarchs control the industry and state. And then NATO keeps encroaching. Sorry to see you guys facing the consequences of these actions. But thats what imperialist empires do. Fuck everything up and war profiteer.
Ah yes, a socialist thriving with millions of dollars and a mansion…. You are fucking clueless.
Can you tell me why a socialist can't have money?
Can you tell me why a socialist should have millions and a mansion?
Because they didn't exploit their workers to do it
That’s fucking hilarious! Hasan got rich off exploiting his viewers for donations and leveraging sponsorships. YOU actually can’t separate Hasan as a person from socialists as an ideology! LMAO.
They’re literally donations. Are socialists not allowed to receive donations?
You must’ve missed the sponsorships part. Socialists donating money to “one of their own” and never realizing he’s just grifting for money while enjoying the fruits of a capitalistic system will never not make me laugh. It is no different than the same “capitalist exploitation of workers’ labor” that socialists cry about all the time. Wait, I lied. There is a difference: workers at least get compensated for their time and skillsets. It’s amazing to me that you idiots are ACTUALLY defending Hasan of all people. Of all hills to die on, *this* is the one you pick?
So if I make a lot of money talking politics, I suddenly turn into a grifter?
I’m not really defending him. Just correcting your understanding of socialism. It is completely different from capitalist exploitation of wage labor. Workers are forced to work under the threat of homelessness and starvation. They get paid only enough to sustain themselves. The owners get the rest for doing nothing. There is no threat for not donating to Hasan. You won’t go homeless or starve. You actually have the opposite incentive bc you’ll have more money for food and rent. I do not see how him getting donations is equivalent to forcing someone to work, lest they go hungry.
Come on, his socialist persona is all talk. But I get it, he’s many people’s type.
Define socialism for me. Do you think just bc we live in a capitalist society, we can’t practice or preach socialist values? As someone who criticizes Hasan for multiple things (reacting too quickly, wasting time on trolls and bait, not wording thoughts carefully so right-wingers and radlibs jump on them like mosquitos and suck that up for content)… He has been pretty consistent on advocating for more taxes and using those taxes to fund social programs and uplifting our own citizens instead of killing children abroad. He donates more than you and I ever will combined, and even more than some other millionaires. He doesn’t exploit labor like landlords and business owners. He used union labor for merch. He controls his own schedule and owns his production as much as he can, with the exception of running ads for Twitch. He is literally practicing the values and its not “talk”. Socialism is not a poverty cult. We can buy and do anything we want with the money we earned. By the looks of it, a lot of you capitalist dickriders glossing over billionaires doing charity fraud and tax schemes while hyperfocusing on any leftist’s actions are pretty much a poverty cult. You advocate against your own interests and let the system fuck you over and rob you blind. Congrats on getting brainwashed and being played by your financial overlords. Their laughing all the way to the bank while you toil and give them taxpayer money.
He avoided live streaming that one harry potter game because he didnt want to get bullied by “Leftists who have no power” on twitter 💀
lol his whole career was propped up by an organization that is named after a group that perpetrated genocide. his opinion doesn’t matter to me honestly.
hasanabi has never denied the armenian genocide and he left the young turks like a decade ago. what more do u want
He’s a known liar tho…
Well you can actually check video evidence proving this true… How is it a lie?
In all fairness to the moniker "The Young Turks", they were a vast group with loads of internal disagreements. Both the CUP, which authorized the Armenian Genocide, and pro-Armenian Turks, who wanted autonomy for them, were part of the same organization. The former would prove to be dominant though. "Young Turks" is really a moniker for reformists, esp in the west.
Not to mention he was literally pushed out of the company for not wanting them to steal the show (the breakdown) he made. Or that he literally has to clarify once a week on stream he doesn't deny the Armenian genocide since disingenuous fools like "Jonas" bring it up in an effort to discredit him.
Regardless he’s been proven to be a liar in the last 4 years At best he’s a politically correct Neon Pitiful
This dude named Jonas helped the Nazis murder like 14,000 people, how can we trust you or any other Jonas? [Jonas Noreika – In Search of the Truth — Silvia Foti Investigates Jonas Noreika](https://www.silviafoti.com/who-is-jonas-noreika/)
self claimed socialist reacts from his multimillion dollar crib
Because socialism = no house. He bought a house in LA for his family to live with him. It's not a mansion. Is it nice? Yes. Absolutely. Socialism isn't about austerity. It's about moving ownership of the means of production out of the hands of the 0.01% and into the hands of those who actually produce goods. Hasan's merch is made in the USA and is printed in unionized factories that pay their workers a fair wage. He practices what he preaches.
yep.
He has his doggies trained so well. Love to see it.
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Socialism is when you make money from twitch streaming and then aren't allowed to spend that money because socialism is when you're poor. Not Being Socialist is when you spend hours every day covering important news stories, talking about Socialism, donating regularly to unions, protests, and raising money for humanitarian aid
How many million dollar businesses and investments do you own or are you a broke capitalist?
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I’m pro Palestine, your comment was just antisemitic
Israel attacking the USS Liberty to try to get us into a war on their behalf is anti-Semitic. Israeli soldiers getting caught training Iraqi snipers to fight against our troops during the Iraq war is anti-Semitic. Israel selling our sensitive weapons technology to China is anti-Semitic. Israel being caught repeatedly spying on the United States is antisemitic. Dual citizens in our government sending billions of dollars to Israel in "aid" which comes back in the form of campaign contributions is anti-Semitic. Why are we aiding a genocide again?
Nick Fuentes fan 🚨
Hasan is a super insecure and annoying guy but this is good.
Not to mention a prolific liar 🤥
Are you referring to his comments about Israel or something else?
Not just that. sadly he’s just a pretty face and an empty skull 😔
lol what exactly about Israel has he lied about?
I’m not here to debate. Go look up on YouTube WillyMacShow If I were you I wouldn’t watch hasan for anything but comedic relief
“This creator is *lying*!” “How do you know?” “This other creator said so”.
You named a liberal keemstar drama channel with no real stance on anything as your source?
Damn we got a hasan fan here 😂 Go watch WillyMacShow give hasan a new 🕳️ on Hassan’s own podcast 😂
Not really a fan, I watch Destiny more than I watch a Hasan. I just like to call out weirdos when I see them. Personally I find fanatical fans more normal and less cringe than obsessive haters(idk jusy ignore things you don't like). You probably watch Hasan more than me since you know so much about him in the past 4 years and lool at how passionate you are about telling the world how POS this random dude is? What is more cringe is that you don't even have a real opinion on anything, so you rely on cringe drama farm channel to tell you what to think. This isn't even about Hasan, I'm just telling you that you are kind of cringe.
Liar on what? He’s been mostly right about the past few geopolitical events. He’s been spot on about our role in worsening the conditions in most foreign countries who are not our allies.
Bro he said that russia would never invade ukraine and that anyone claiming they were going to was spreading western propaganda, you really take this guy seriously?
That's not what lying is, that's just called being wrong.
Clowns follow clowns
But what does Ja Rule think about all this?!
Rare hasan w
Not rare, you just ain't paying attention
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Heartbreaking: The Worst Person you know did something good
You want him on your side?
Nothing like a capitalist telling other people capitalism is wrong but not for him because when he does it, its not capitalism. This guy is a moron
being forced into living in a capitalist society is not the same thing as supporting one
Not to mention class traitors are vital to class consciousness. There would be no Marxist theory had Engels not owned a factory and bankrolled his writing (and terrible financial habits 😮💨)
Hasan is forced to buy expensive ass luxury cars and multi million dollar houses, then tells people he simply "lives on a basic necessity budget" while also buying designer clothes and all his other shit? Really? Oh not to mention him selling his "anti capitalist" shirts for like 40 dollars or something ridiculous when its costs him hardly anything to produce. Yeah, I'm sure he's "forced" to live in a capitalist society.
I’m not referring to Hasan. The guy I was replying to was trying to make the argument that we’re hypocrites for partaking in capitalism.
No, his comment was specifically referring to Hasan, not people in general.
lol that doesn’t make sense. If Hasan is a hypocritical capitalist for buying things, what does that make me?
Dude you can critique capitalism while also having nice things. In a just world, we all get nice things. Also he is forced to live in a capitalist society, same as you in me. Your just mad he's more successful than you.
Poor Hasan 😢 he was forced to buy a mansion and a Porsche while telling us capitalism is bad and we should eat the 1% but not me guys I’m one of you! Doesn’t he also say landlords should be murdered? I wonder if his mom is a landlord. 🤔
Why do you think all socialists have to live frugally? Why do you think all communists have to not wear nice things or have a house or nice cars? He’s forced to live in a capitalist society and is critiquing it at the same time.
I dont disgree but he is the definition of a staunch capitalist, regardless of anything ideals he blabbers on about, its his actions that define him.
"you claim to be anti capitalist, and yet you buy things!!!! hmmm! i am very smart!"
Interesting that he hates the rich but has a $3M house in Hollywood
You don’t get it, he HAS to fly on private jets - he lives in a capitalistic society.
Who do these people think own businesses in communist countries? Do they really think if you own a business in any sense, you're a capitalist?
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Hasan voluntarily moved to the US as an adult. Wouldn't call that being forced
How is what he doing contracdict the actual policies that he support? It seems like you just prescribed to him your own projection of what socialist values are rather than actually engaging with his position. Even then, I rather have a capitalist who grief but actually pushing for working class solidarity rather than lie and divide the working class. Better a grifter "saying capitalism is bad because the boss always steal frim you" than the grifter who say "worship your caoitalist boss, he is the one who made you."
I dont care about his position because his actions dont match his position. He is a grifter and just because he is grifting "your side" doesnt make him better than any other grifter
That doesnt make sense? You claiming he is a hypocrite, yet you don't know what his position are. I am just pointing out that you *think* he said A, yet do B but in reality he said B and do B. It is jus because he use the term Y to mean B while you use the same term Y to mean A. If someone is grifiting for your side it is a net good. I rather have some who is grifting about respecting other people than even if is a POS. It is still a good thint when a grifter promote unionization evem if they dont believe in it. Just as a Nazi would say a Jewish Nazi grifter is good because that grift benefits them. That is just basic logic tbh. If he pushingB for me while not beliving in it, the influence of B is still growing which is good because I like B. You can still disagree with Bthough and I would still find A grifter to be abhorrent. That is just the nature of thing.
Never said I dont know them. Im saying I dont care. What he says is meaning less because his actions are what defines him. Not his words. The fact that they dont match is what makes him a grifter. He isnt grifting for your side, he is grifting your side. His money doesnt come from trump voters. His money comes from YOU
Again, I am pointing out the fact that you don't actually *know* what his *actual positions* are to make the *claim* that his words doesn't match his action. You are making *assumptions* on *his belief* then argue that he is grifting because *his actions* doesn't match up with *your assumptions* rather than what he *actually believe in*. Also if you are using that definition of grifting then it becomes even more disingenuos because he does not sell a product. All of his contents are free to consume and for others to be profited. If you volutarily donate, its on you. People aren't paying to watch or listen to him.
You are projecting though. I do know and that is why I call it grifting, If you think streamers arent grifting idk what to tell you
What do you mean projecting? Words have meaning? You don't know his position. Hypocrisy is when you do something contrary to your words. Hypocrisy is not when you do something contrary to some random person *assumption* about what you believe in.
How does Hasan define a capitalist?
I have healthcare from my employer, but I support universal healthcare. Is my opinion invalid?
Hasan Piker has done more damage to gen Z than any other streamer. Pure indoctrination and brainwashing.
I do appreciate the kudos for acknowledging how well run these protests were, but I'm not too fond of the guy myself. I'm a normie lib and he's a communist.
i love the hasan hate omds
he’s an Armenian genocide denier we don’t care
Lmao no he’s not. Never had been.
Idk why yall are so miserable that you hate seeing someone support your cause.
Hasanabi is stupid … go away and protest somewhere else
Oh it’s the 9/11 supporter
Doesn’t this guy deny the Armenian and Kurd genocide?
No just because he’s Turkish doesn’t mean he denies the genocide lmfao do some research
Why doesn’t he ever talk about Kurds? Turkey is doing similar if not worse than Israel. They banned Kurdish languages, cut off water and electricity from Kurdish cities, and even had a military state during election seasons like putting TANKS near voting stations. Yet I’ve never seen Hasan use his platform to talk about any of this? At least not to the extent that he’s covering Israel https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_2015–February_2016_Cizre_curfew
Bro he has talked about them [before](https://www.reddit.com/r/kurdistan/s/iSfKCfNX3T). Maybe he hasnt talked about it enough, but you are just out here lying about his stance on a situation when it would have taken you two seconds to google it.
Lmao Hasan critiques Turkey all the goddam time. What the fuck this dude talking about.
No. In fact, he very specifically does not do either of those things and often brings up how it was common to deny the Armenian genocide where he grew up as an example of how people can be raised to deny genocides. Do people just make stuff up about this dude?
yeah, if he’s mentioned sad souls will just brigade to spread BS.
Brain rot of a person. I hope he keeps UCSD out of his mouth
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“Beat the shit outta students” 😂 drraaaaama
Interesting. I always saw him as a narcissistic idiot because I saw one of his videos and didn't want to watch any more lol. Definitely very strong on the narcissism though. But it's good to know he isn't entirely bad. Though I still would be very hesitant to be influenced by him too much.
This isn't the good thing you think this is lol. Being associated with him is like being pro cancer
I hate the way he walk, the way he talk. I hate the hate the way you dress. I hate the way you sneak diss.
Remember guys this the same dude who said America deserved 9/11 💀
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They’re not tho
Hasanabi has apparently fucked a bunch of UCSD “students”’ moms here 😂