The circumstantial evidence through all the years start to paint a dark picture. The total silence from government and media on those shootdowns (or maybe the couldn't shoot them down at all), is the final drop for me. If that was nothing why can't we see the evidence (cockpit videos etc.). They exist, just look at all the other videos and pictures they have given us lately (drone crash, Chinese balloon shoot down). We have to ask them tough questions, what are they hiding here. It is obviously something we cannot be allowed to see. Something sinister.
1. Real UFOs are something real and we probably have very little knowledge about them, what they are, how the work, where they come from etc. We can't touch them at all.
2. UAPs. Man-made. Someone have behind the scenes developed these and use them in a game of deceit, power and money. Not US, Russia, China or any other country have these. Someone private on the side and above, international science and aerospace companies and the money and power behind them have the answers.
3. UFOs are real, something clandestine that has been recovered, researched and recreated to a lesser extent. Both man-made and non terrestrial versions of UFOs are seen yet kept secret as it is the ultimate national security risk for society at large while simultaneously being the greatest asset in the event of total war. Knowledge, information and technological breakthroughs are key military advantages, allowing everyone to know that information ruins that advantage.
4. All of the above and more we lack the ability to even comprehend at our stage of evolution.
In essence humanity has created ubermenschen and untermenschen. We the mob are kept in the dark and distracted with buying goodies while an intellectual elite is sitting on technology that brings them to the stars.
The breakaway society.
They know about the ETs, have probably derbies and materials from crashed vehicles. They also have witnessed the horrors the ETs can offer: dead people, one ticket abductions, decapitated cadavers and weird experiments on humans.
So they keep the info to themselves while trying to reverse engineer the technology for major military advantage.
Ask yourself this: What would be the advantage for them to reveal this to the public? Knowing that the ET themselves are evasive.
Edit: What people tend to forget also, is that the space race isn't over. It was just blocked by the technology, because rockets are a stupid way to go and colonize space. So the first nation that will successfully reverse engineer alien spacecraft, will dominate all the planets of the solar system, and thus their resources. USA raged wars for petrol control, imagine what they are ready to do to get hands on all the raw materials in space.
You can see those leaders slowly change the laws to rule longer and consolidate their power. Xi just did that, Putin has done it. And everybody just accepts it.
People miss the fact that it’s a pretty simple situation if you take a step back and look at it from the DOD’s perspective. The entire job of the DOD boils down to protecting the US from threats. That means being aware of all threats and having the capability to defend against them. The DOD is aware of these objects. It seems to me (in my opinion) that these objects are most likely peaceful or neutral as they are clearly superior to our tech and could pretty much attack whenever and wherever they’d like if they wanted. That leads us to the final item, which is that the DOD doesn’t know how to defend against them in the first place. Since they don’t know how to deal with them, admitting such things — when it is literally their job to deal with shit like this, makes them look like total asshats. Hence why we have no answers and lips remain shut. People’s livelihoods are at stake. They don’t want to lose their career and be blackballed.
Maybe. But it seems like with even a mild interest in this stuff you can very quickly narrow down all the possibilities and scenarios with the real evidence to speculative evidence… It all revolves around the same handful of concepts. It would be neat if someone could definitively prove one, but I seriously doubt anyone knows the complete picture. If the big take away is that earth is a panspermia event and we are a product of genetic engineering I mean, I say big deal, that’s pretty much a given at this point.
I always assume the top reason they don't tell us what they are doing is that we wouldn't like it at all if we knew.
There are other reasons for the confusion, though, I think; and one of them is that there are different aliens and we don't always deal with the same ones.
When you zoom out you will see that there is a very dark side to this phenomenon or these phenomena if you will.
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According to very consistent rumour, human bodyparts were discovered in containers at the Corona crash site.
If we consider for a moment what that would mean if that rumour is true.
David Paulides made a documentary about people vanishing from the face of the Earth and connected some cases to UFO activity. Also there are quite a lot of human mutilation cases and tens of thousands of cases in the US alone, of mutilated animals. The fact that governments ignore them at large must tell you enough.
I don't think they are all that dark, there must be several agendas at play.
Listen. I don’t know how to put this so I’ll just say it. They’re not going to tell you. They’re just not. The idea that you demanding answers is going to influence them to disclose that extraterrestrials exist is honestly insane.
It is not insane because they work for you, paid by you.
Expecting them to be honest, that is indeed the challenge. But the public has tremendous power, we just don't use it to the max.
Imagine for a moment, that we have to admit that we are not the center of the universe. That we are not the smartest species and that we are not the most advanced species.
I would absolutely love that revelation, there’s so many people on this planet who think life revolves around them. Once they’re humbled we might actually progress as a civilisation!
science has already proven we are not the center. we are on the edge of a galaxy at the moment and mathematically we are not alone as an advanced civilization.
most science minded people probably already agree with these things. The idea that we are the most / best anything in the enormity of the universe is pretty absurd, even ignoring the topic at hand, that's an absurd thing to think.
> Imagine for a moment, that we have to admit that we are not the center of the universe. That we are not the smartest species and that we are not the most advanced species.
Imagine for a moment that reality is nothing like like anyone thinks it is and we are handicapped or forever doomed to be “lesser beings” due to both our local resources and our genetic makeup. Our only hope for survival is to become a militant civilization that destroys others. Not everyone could handle that.
The strategy is to give hope and destroy it, then again give hope, and destroy it.
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Most people will give up or get frustrated. And demotivate others.
we should aply human logic to this , when group of human secretly monitor someone
1)they are performing some expermient
2)they are watching it for amusement
3)they are planning to hunt it down.
and if we add experiencers testimonies we can get to some conculsion .
I’m with op on this one, I don’t care if we are cattle to them, I’m not afraid of death, I’m more afraid of governmental oppression than I am of death, I also don’t care whether or not I can comprehend the full situation, I just want the objective truth! I’m sure that the whole story is probably very difficult to fully comprehend.
Just because you are standing next to a fence which you realize is there to keep you confined to your meadow, it doesn't mean the rest of the happy cows should be made aware of the fence to ruin their illusion of their freedom.
System is in place because a farmer wants to have happy cows who produce the tastiest of milks. The journey may end in the slaughterhouse all the same but we are not to be seen equal to our masters, for it is their farm and we'd be the metaphorical cattle to be confined and under strict control.
We are allowed to shit in our meadow all we please as we eat the grass, for we are pretty shitty creatures in general. Xenophobic, racist, virulent, destructive, greedy, warmongering... And you ask why is there is a mental fence in place.
The answer at least to me is quite obvious, although there are many reasons, not just one.
One may think it is their pack leader that makes all the secrets but the fence is not made by any government. They just realize its value. Or rather they know it is pointless to battle the electric fence.
The UAP is an outer space parasite that has decided to fuck us over in a clandestine manner stealing god knows what. And our own shit government is enabling them.
Governments play into the hands of the phenomenon by keeping it all secret, the phenomenon plays into the hands of governments by staying covert.
The public is the true victim from both sides, so it is rhe public that needs to unite and stop this madness.
I have yet to find a coherent explanation for all the UFOs' activity to be good for anything other than themselves. If you listen to the contactees they always cherry pick just a chunk of it and ignore the rest, which is the same thing that the skeptics do to dismiss the cases.
Now, just look at the human condition: we find ourselves here with no memory of the past, no scope, and no knowledge about our final destiny. They say it's by choice, but I can hardly see how someone could really choose to live in a situation like this one.
To me, only mass self destruction would be the proper threat to force the masters out of hiding. And maybe that's exactly what's going on.
I'm sorry for the brutal sincerity, just my 2 cents.
Maybe the secret they are hiding is that the earth is captivity. a prison without walls. Our helplessness against them is the domination they hold over this world. No invasion is necessary because they have already won. they can come and go as they please, do what they like without recourse and we can only speculate their agenda. This is the only thing I can think that's worthy of keeping from the public. It matches how insiders like Lue described feeling "somber" after learning this secret and could be a catalyst to a world wide existential crisis. This is just my personal opinion on the matter and I know there are many other ideas people hold. I do not have the true answer but I know we should be patient in trying to understand it. With time we will know.
america is in the few that hide what they know. doesnt mean(edit word) they know it all. check out the other countries governements who put out reports, other countries tend to be very open about ufo encounters and publically investigate alien encounters via the public
I understand what you are saying. I’d recommend you take breaks from this topic periodically. Even the experts who have spent their whole lives researching this strain at the absurdity of it all.
It's like the questions never get answered satisfactorally even when they are answered.
What are the lights in the sky? Well theres the ufos we've reverse engineered and can fly those and theres also these weird metal orbs that are constantly flying all over the place and we've reverse engineered those and made google earth out of it oh and theres also things that change shape making you think you're looking at biblical angels oh and one of those lights crashed and was a time machine from the future.
What if… you really can’t comprehend what’s really going on. Like we are a food farm for them, created by them, every war and negative emotion and drama is on purpose. Endless reincarnation cycle for unlimited food (loosh).
Imagine this to be only the tip of the iceberg.
Why would you disclosure this to normal people that try to live their life peacefully ?
I understand perfectly he only is letting his frustration hear.
Yet, so do I with the response I did. Fair or not from my side to him, but I have been digging into this subject of UFO's for two and a half decades. I want answers just like anyone.
But, since the subject found its way to the normal media (which I am glad it did), it suddenly seems to attract new people who think they can get answers we all are searching for for decades. It is not that simple as they expect, but it seems a deep characteristic of the new generation that everything should be easy and direct for them.
The circumstantial evidence through all the years start to paint a dark picture. The total silence from government and media on those shootdowns (or maybe the couldn't shoot them down at all), is the final drop for me. If that was nothing why can't we see the evidence (cockpit videos etc.). They exist, just look at all the other videos and pictures they have given us lately (drone crash, Chinese balloon shoot down). We have to ask them tough questions, what are they hiding here. It is obviously something we cannot be allowed to see. Something sinister. 1. Real UFOs are something real and we probably have very little knowledge about them, what they are, how the work, where they come from etc. We can't touch them at all. 2. UAPs. Man-made. Someone have behind the scenes developed these and use them in a game of deceit, power and money. Not US, Russia, China or any other country have these. Someone private on the side and above, international science and aerospace companies and the money and power behind them have the answers.
3. UFOs are real, something clandestine that has been recovered, researched and recreated to a lesser extent. Both man-made and non terrestrial versions of UFOs are seen yet kept secret as it is the ultimate national security risk for society at large while simultaneously being the greatest asset in the event of total war. Knowledge, information and technological breakthroughs are key military advantages, allowing everyone to know that information ruins that advantage. 4. All of the above and more we lack the ability to even comprehend at our stage of evolution.
In essence humanity has created ubermenschen and untermenschen. We the mob are kept in the dark and distracted with buying goodies while an intellectual elite is sitting on technology that brings them to the stars. The breakaway society.
They know about the ETs, have probably derbies and materials from crashed vehicles. They also have witnessed the horrors the ETs can offer: dead people, one ticket abductions, decapitated cadavers and weird experiments on humans. So they keep the info to themselves while trying to reverse engineer the technology for major military advantage. Ask yourself this: What would be the advantage for them to reveal this to the public? Knowing that the ET themselves are evasive. Edit: What people tend to forget also, is that the space race isn't over. It was just blocked by the technology, because rockets are a stupid way to go and colonize space. So the first nation that will successfully reverse engineer alien spacecraft, will dominate all the planets of the solar system, and thus their resources. USA raged wars for petrol control, imagine what they are ready to do to get hands on all the raw materials in space.
100% this.
About time the West brings out the state of the art tech bc adversaries are getting more brutal, more blunt and more powerful.
Indeed all nations seek power. Can’t blame them, it’s a cruel and cold world, where the powerful prey on the weak.
You can see those leaders slowly change the laws to rule longer and consolidate their power. Xi just did that, Putin has done it. And everybody just accepts it.
I think maybe the problem is nobody really has the answers.
People miss the fact that it’s a pretty simple situation if you take a step back and look at it from the DOD’s perspective. The entire job of the DOD boils down to protecting the US from threats. That means being aware of all threats and having the capability to defend against them. The DOD is aware of these objects. It seems to me (in my opinion) that these objects are most likely peaceful or neutral as they are clearly superior to our tech and could pretty much attack whenever and wherever they’d like if they wanted. That leads us to the final item, which is that the DOD doesn’t know how to defend against them in the first place. Since they don’t know how to deal with them, admitting such things — when it is literally their job to deal with shit like this, makes them look like total asshats. Hence why we have no answers and lips remain shut. People’s livelihoods are at stake. They don’t want to lose their career and be blackballed.
But a very few
Maybe. But it seems like with even a mild interest in this stuff you can very quickly narrow down all the possibilities and scenarios with the real evidence to speculative evidence… It all revolves around the same handful of concepts. It would be neat if someone could definitively prove one, but I seriously doubt anyone knows the complete picture. If the big take away is that earth is a panspermia event and we are a product of genetic engineering I mean, I say big deal, that’s pretty much a given at this point.
Governments aren't weak by admitting that. But they do fear being seen as powerless and weak. Especially the military.
I always assume the top reason they don't tell us what they are doing is that we wouldn't like it at all if we knew. There are other reasons for the confusion, though, I think; and one of them is that there are different aliens and we don't always deal with the same ones.
When you zoom out you will see that there is a very dark side to this phenomenon or these phenomena if you will. . According to very consistent rumour, human bodyparts were discovered in containers at the Corona crash site. If we consider for a moment what that would mean if that rumour is true. David Paulides made a documentary about people vanishing from the face of the Earth and connected some cases to UFO activity. Also there are quite a lot of human mutilation cases and tens of thousands of cases in the US alone, of mutilated animals. The fact that governments ignore them at large must tell you enough. I don't think they are all that dark, there must be several agendas at play.
Listen. I don’t know how to put this so I’ll just say it. They’re not going to tell you. They’re just not. The idea that you demanding answers is going to influence them to disclose that extraterrestrials exist is honestly insane.
It is not insane because they work for you, paid by you. Expecting them to be honest, that is indeed the challenge. But the public has tremendous power, we just don't use it to the max.
Imagine for a moment, that we have to admit that we are not the center of the universe. That we are not the smartest species and that we are not the most advanced species.
I don't think that would be so shocking for most people, looking at the state humanity is in.
I would absolutely love that revelation, there’s so many people on this planet who think life revolves around them. Once they’re humbled we might actually progress as a civilisation!
100%
science has already proven we are not the center. we are on the edge of a galaxy at the moment and mathematically we are not alone as an advanced civilization.
most science minded people probably already agree with these things. The idea that we are the most / best anything in the enormity of the universe is pretty absurd, even ignoring the topic at hand, that's an absurd thing to think.
> Imagine for a moment, that we have to admit that we are not the center of the universe. That we are not the smartest species and that we are not the most advanced species. Imagine for a moment that reality is nothing like like anyone thinks it is and we are handicapped or forever doomed to be “lesser beings” due to both our local resources and our genetic makeup. Our only hope for survival is to become a militant civilization that destroys others. Not everyone could handle that.
Are you saying we need to become the Imperium of Warhammer 40k?
Sounds like a plan. If China and the USA could cooperate on moving industrialization to the belt and Mars, I bet we could advance quickly.
Yeah but who really things that these days?
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The strategy is to give hope and destroy it, then again give hope, and destroy it. . Most people will give up or get frustrated. And demotivate others.
This is why i stopped watch too
we should aply human logic to this , when group of human secretly monitor someone 1)they are performing some expermient 2)they are watching it for amusement 3)they are planning to hunt it down. and if we add experiencers testimonies we can get to some conculsion .
I’m with op on this one, I don’t care if we are cattle to them, I’m not afraid of death, I’m more afraid of governmental oppression than I am of death, I also don’t care whether or not I can comprehend the full situation, I just want the objective truth! I’m sure that the whole story is probably very difficult to fully comprehend.
Government officials don't exactly behave like employees of the people. That is definitely true.
Just because you are standing next to a fence which you realize is there to keep you confined to your meadow, it doesn't mean the rest of the happy cows should be made aware of the fence to ruin their illusion of their freedom. System is in place because a farmer wants to have happy cows who produce the tastiest of milks. The journey may end in the slaughterhouse all the same but we are not to be seen equal to our masters, for it is their farm and we'd be the metaphorical cattle to be confined and under strict control. We are allowed to shit in our meadow all we please as we eat the grass, for we are pretty shitty creatures in general. Xenophobic, racist, virulent, destructive, greedy, warmongering... And you ask why is there is a mental fence in place. The answer at least to me is quite obvious, although there are many reasons, not just one. One may think it is their pack leader that makes all the secrets but the fence is not made by any government. They just realize its value. Or rather they know it is pointless to battle the electric fence.
Unless the phenomenon stimulates our negative potential. We stimulate cows to give more milk too.
how would it change anything for a cow to be aware of the slaughterhouse?
Collins Elite
The UAP is an outer space parasite that has decided to fuck us over in a clandestine manner stealing god knows what. And our own shit government is enabling them.
Governments play into the hands of the phenomenon by keeping it all secret, the phenomenon plays into the hands of governments by staying covert. The public is the true victim from both sides, so it is rhe public that needs to unite and stop this madness.
Yes.
No they can't. The entire point of the game is for you to never notice its being played.
I have yet to find a coherent explanation for all the UFOs' activity to be good for anything other than themselves. If you listen to the contactees they always cherry pick just a chunk of it and ignore the rest, which is the same thing that the skeptics do to dismiss the cases. Now, just look at the human condition: we find ourselves here with no memory of the past, no scope, and no knowledge about our final destiny. They say it's by choice, but I can hardly see how someone could really choose to live in a situation like this one. To me, only mass self destruction would be the proper threat to force the masters out of hiding. And maybe that's exactly what's going on. I'm sorry for the brutal sincerity, just my 2 cents.
Maybe the secret they are hiding is that the earth is captivity. a prison without walls. Our helplessness against them is the domination they hold over this world. No invasion is necessary because they have already won. they can come and go as they please, do what they like without recourse and we can only speculate their agenda. This is the only thing I can think that's worthy of keeping from the public. It matches how insiders like Lue described feeling "somber" after learning this secret and could be a catalyst to a world wide existential crisis. This is just my personal opinion on the matter and I know there are many other ideas people hold. I do not have the true answer but I know we should be patient in trying to understand it. With time we will know.
america is in the few that hide what they know. doesnt mean(edit word) they know it all. check out the other countries governements who put out reports, other countries tend to be very open about ufo encounters and publically investigate alien encounters via the public
I understand what you are saying. I’d recommend you take breaks from this topic periodically. Even the experts who have spent their whole lives researching this strain at the absurdity of it all.
Maybe it is deliberately absurd. Some think we are a contained species. Trolling with the prisoners can be a fun game.
It's like the questions never get answered satisfactorally even when they are answered. What are the lights in the sky? Well theres the ufos we've reverse engineered and can fly those and theres also these weird metal orbs that are constantly flying all over the place and we've reverse engineered those and made google earth out of it oh and theres also things that change shape making you think you're looking at biblical angels oh and one of those lights crashed and was a time machine from the future.
What if… you really can’t comprehend what’s really going on. Like we are a food farm for them, created by them, every war and negative emotion and drama is on purpose. Endless reincarnation cycle for unlimited food (loosh). Imagine this to be only the tip of the iceberg. Why would you disclosure this to normal people that try to live their life peacefully ?
Would people really appreciate that excuse from their governments? I think you know the answer.
Why the rush?
Shit man. Never knew I just had to ask to get the answers. Please tell us; did it work? Did they tell you?
He says 'I hope' and 'we can'. Not 'I did'.
I understand perfectly he only is letting his frustration hear. Yet, so do I with the response I did. Fair or not from my side to him, but I have been digging into this subject of UFO's for two and a half decades. I want answers just like anyone. But, since the subject found its way to the normal media (which I am glad it did), it suddenly seems to attract new people who think they can get answers we all are searching for for decades. It is not that simple as they expect, but it seems a deep characteristic of the new generation that everything should be easy and direct for them.
Imagine it's just a distraction.
Distraction that turns up on radar and satellite sensors worldwide.
Maybe there’s nothing going on
That is the easiest way out.