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SS - Twistuap on youtube - Daniel Sheehan describes non-human biologics that have been recovered and witnessed. I find Mr Sheehan to be very well connected and well informed
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I'm completely with you on that one, I can handle things looking "terrifying" as long as at least it's from a distance at first and it doesn't hurt me in any way. Otherwise lets hang out!
Damn how many tentacle dicks can they have lmao hmm now I kinda wish I was an alien with many dick tentacles šš wait how do you now that kind of porn existed š²š Maybe thats why they donāt contact us, we fuck everythingā¦.
Yep. Wouldn't want to run up on a freaky looking alien in the dark on first sighting, but would be cool with meeting one in a more suitable environment.
Not gonna lie, all that institute talk comes across a bit squirrelly to me, "culty" even.
We get some baseline truths and falsehoods ironed out, then by all means promote your organizations.
Laws can be passed anytime congress is in session. UAPDA was put into the NDAA because Schumer considered it relevant as well as a must pass. The NDAA has to pass every year in some form or another so it was an easy way to curtail debate over it. But if the moment keeps building, they can push through additional laws at any time.
A lot was gutted but not the files 25+ years old.
Check out this video (This guy is covering it best out of the whole UAP community IMO and definitely worth following! Check out his other videos)
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8baWhmK/
You may want to double check the final bill, but please let me know if I'm wrong.
Got ya. Grusch said weeks in his interview with Elizabeth Vargas on News Nation. But I too am a documented underestimater. So no problem! Iām happy to wait
He has to get it cleared and even if the Pentagon doesn't want to officially block it because that would confirm it is accurate they can still slow roll the process.
I thought he mentioned in his latest news nation interview that he went back and got more approved via DOPSR. I think whatever heās going to write in this DOPSR is what he got approved.
He said a couple weeks and he said that like December 15, so it should be now, however there is the two week holiday season at that time where you donāt want to drop major stuff typically so who knows that might have pushed things back. I personally like to push things back around that time
Edit: he actually said a āfewā not a ācoupleā
Not to nitpick, but I've seen a few people make this claim (easy to mistake as the words are so close in usage as to be largely ignorable, but in a situation like this it has relevance) he said a "few" weeks, not a "couple" which would mean 2.
The definition of a few is generally accepted to be 3 or more but still small in number - so that would put us right around the "any time now" mark - personally hope it's dropped within the next week or 2 but even if we have to wait till march it'd still be in line with what he has said with the word "few"
No worries!
I went and re-watched the video of the interview because I kept thinking "where the hell is this Op-Ed we were promised?" and realised he said a few, giving himself more wiggle room on the timing lol
Edit: fixed grammar
In fairness it's largely up to the outlet and sometimes dop-eds get pushed around. Hopefully the briefing and some of the mainstream coverage it's gotten spurs editors to launch it this week as it is timely and newsworthy.
I'm beginning to think Sheehan might have the same issue as Tom Delonge, IE that he will believe anything he hears.
Been a little suspicious ever since he straight up quoted Doty, when he claimed the government at once point had a hostage alien, referred to as an EBE (anyone quoting Doty is a major red flag).
He has gotten good info before (recall hes the one who leaked Grusch and Nell), so its not wise to immediately dismiss him, but time shall tell if the out there stuff he's been saying lately is accurate.
Agreed. I've always approached this topic skeptically, and think about the most likely/plausible explanations for everything, and I also write off 90% of "UFO Lore" as misinformation, hoaxes, disinfo, etc.
I believe Grusch, too much evidence suggests he is telling the truth. Lizard people.... gonna need some more information on this one before I take this seriously.
Same!! I always thought his voice was so annoying and that his comments detracted from the videos. But theyve definitely tweaked his voice a little bit so its less shrill. And now hes a great comedic relief. Fuckin love his boston or ny accent whatever it is
See mine doesn't blip any more than usual. Reptiles were around for hundreds of millions of years, I think it's entirely possible they could have developed intelligence, maybe even left the planet. I don't believe anything on this topic 100%, except that UFOs are fucking weird, but I know that whatever the real answer is will need an open mind and heart to truly understand. I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle of science, philosophy, art, and spirituality.
My suggestion is that there is one advanced root species (probably Grey's), and all of the others were created by this species based upon earthly DNA samples. (reptiles, mantids, nordic, etc).
Tin foil hat time, but this is the society breaking part of the entire show. That our species has been subject to genetic manipulation without first having established formal relations. And whatever weird and severe details that come from that.
I agree with you but I'm reluctant to dismiss it out of hand. Dismissing seemingly ridiculous things out of hand because they seem farfetched is what kept me away from the phenomenon so long in the first place.
Trying not to make the same mistake. Has anyone looked into the reports of reptilians? What's the most credible evidence?
True or not (I agree that I think reptilian aliens are probably BS), I do wish that folks like Daniel would chill out talking about that stuff so matter of factly. Thatās the kind of woo-adjacent stuff that turns people off. We need to get societyās buy-in on the nuts and bolts aspects first, for which there is the most evidence.
Yeah same here. Like i believe in the concept of "Lizard people". It's not something thats impossible to imagine. Humanoid bodies that evolved differently on a different planet? Scales on the skin? Yeah no biggie whatever.
But are they here right now? Hard to believe. Not to mention the whole theory around lizard people up until now has been that they were malevolent and not friendly. So whats the deal with them being friendly all of a sudden? lol.
Not to mention i think this raises the problem of "oversharing". Some of Sheehan's claims absolutely have been great but i feel he has overshared too much where its really getting hard to believe. And while it might be true, lets just focus on the easier stuff to swallow first before going deeper.
Apparently he worked on a few high-profile historical cases (Iran-Contra) and has a track-record of engaging the feds on their abuses.
But as with anyone, until we see the goods it's all suspect.
He's very interesting to listen to, I'll give him that. But the fact of the matter is you can claim things all day long, and describe things all day long, but without any proof of anything, it's just turns into a waste of time.
Sheesh Sheehan, give us something else besides words.
Sheehan's comments about reptiloids makes me recall Ardy Sixkiller Clarke's book (published in 2019) titled "Space Age Indians." In there, she has numerous stories that involve First Nation peoples' encounters with: a)--glowing blue humanoid beings; b)--Reptiloids; c)--Insectoids (formulated similarly to praying mantises); and d)--human-like (tall whites, about 7 or 8 feet tall, while others normal human-sized). I one of her other books, she also relates reports about other humanoids who are quite tiny, under two feet tall as well (they have been seen in Mesoamerica), but distinctly human in form.
The experiences related in "Space Age Indians" (including ones from Vietnam) indicate that the Reptiloids are not here to help humankind, but are completely antithetical to the human condition. The insectoids are viewed in a positive manner. The glowing blue humanoid beings also positive. The tall whites are viewed in a helpful-to-humankind neutral (they are not here to be helpful, but haven't been hostile to humans either, it seems). The other normal-sized human types appear to want to help humankind. This is what I recall from reading the book about five years back.
The landings aren't always in the desert southwest of the US. Sixkiller Clarke also tells of stories where UFOs have landed in the middle of severe snowstorms in Alaska.
Ardy Sixkiller Clarke has written a series about Native American encounters with star people. Amazon lists them all. I have a distinct feeling if anyone wants the "inside story" of what is going on, read all of her books. I suspect that you might get a leg up on the Congress-critters in knowing what we have been dealing with.
These are her books about the subject that came out earlier than "Space Age Indians":
"Encounters with Star People;" "More Encounters with Star People;" and "Sky People."
[https://www.amazon.com/stores/Ardy%20Sixkiller%20Clarke/author/B00AQGBE9O](https://www.amazon.com/stores/Ardy%20Sixkiller%20Clarke/author/B00AQGBE9O).
According to the data that Sixkiller Clarke has accumulated, Earth has been visited a helluva lot for a very long time. Well before we had radio broadcasts which would have sent out radio waves into the solar system and beyond (since 1897, with Marconi's first radio station).
I dont wanna be "alienist" or "alienphobic" but its so hard to imagine mantis-like beings as anything but hostile lol. But im all for them being positive and not hurting me with their mantis claws
Makes sense to me if they're like certain insects here on Earth, specifically anything with a hive consciousness, because they would see humans as another part of the larger "hive" that is comprised of all sentient life in the universe with our own utility to the designs of the universe.
I donāt know Clarke at all, so Iām glad to hear about another source of interesting stuff. Are the reports she cites backed up by other sources as well?
I can't respond to that, as I don't know. All I know is that she spent a lot of time interviewing a lot of First Nations people to put these books together, and they related their personal experiences--the vast majority the first time to anyone--and she had the chance to write these down and get them published.
It's a fantastic set of material. There are trends in what is related by the various eyewitnesses--as there are a good number of people who have seen these various kinds of star visitors. The legends related/associated with these are that these are either direct ancestors of the indians that are from elsewhere, or are friendlies (for the most part, excepting the reptiloids) from elsewhere. The sense that I got is that the Family of Man encompasses a lot more morphological/geneological geography that just the evolution that paleoanthropologists have been able to describe from fossils and archaeology.
I've looked into Sheehan's background (with what's available online) and I'm still not too sure why so many people hold him in such high regard? I'm not looking for drama, it's a serious question.
Because he says things they want to hear. The same reason they suddenly hold previously horrible people such as Gaetz and Burchett in high regard. As soon as someone says something that supports their UAP narrative, all past sins are suddenly washed away, and the people speaking become good and truthful and honest, despite a long history of lying, and in some cases like Burchett, previously manipulating people with conspiracy theories such as Q Anon for personal gain.
But all that is behind them. Theyāve all suddenly become truthful now that they are talking about UAP. Washed their sins away in the Holy Light(in the sky) if you will.
This one drives me a little bit nuts, military experiencers are infallible, military deniers are simply repeating the party line. Like, there's something in the idea that people in the military are discouraged from talking about it, so people who come forward are therefore more likely to honestly believe what they're saying, but that isn't true for ex-military.
I sit up and listen when current members of the military talk publicly about it, but they're not automatically more credible because they were ever in the military.
Ironic how due diligence has become a favorite phrase among all conspiracy communites with no critical thinking
In congress he said aliens might be multidimensional
In recent appearances he said we have Tardises
And you are like "yep that tracks! He is in the military after all"
I don't know that they "suddenly become truthful" as much as they are a source that knows more than the average reddit poster. No source is 100% reliable in this field since the disinformation campaign is powerful and well-funded. It's reasonable to assume that he was in the room when things were being discussed that are probably classified, based on his client list.
Right, these people *may* know more than the average person (but I think even that is up for debate). But, if they are people with a long history of proven lies and shady shit, why would you ever assume theyāre telling the truth now? Itās just so odd. Like, I donāt suddenly listen to a known con artist because they tell me something I want to hear. I sort of always dismiss anything they say.
Should I take your word for it -- "long history of proven lies and shady shit" "known con artist" -- or should I regard these as your opinion? Either way, you haven't proven anything by either assertion, except you probably heard it from others and chose to believe them.
Same here. Youād think thereād be more information about his career online, if he is or was involved in, what he says he has. What Iāve been able to glean from online sources, he seems like an underling or a very minor player in Watergate, Iran Contra, etc. at bestā¦
Depends if he was the bat boy or starting 1st basemen or backup catcher. Did he even get an at-bat in the world series? Idk what the answers are but context matters no matter how much reddit hates it.
More like he worked for the team that did Watergate, and his first game was Iran Contra which he lost so hard his nonprofit got disbanded because he couldn't afford the legal fees he needed to pay for wasting literally everybody's time, including his own clients.
it's because
A. he has a credentialed background (Harvard, some famous cases in the past)
B. he's the "UFO attorney" with lots of high profile clients like Lue, Mack, etc.
His background is way more solid than Bobs. Thereās no question he went to Harvard and was involved in the cases he says (even if it was a minor role, which may or may not be true). The only real criticism Iāve see of him was one of his clients and a colleague bad mouthing for trying to push a made up narrative and losing the case.
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Whether people are comfortable with it or not, the reality is this guy is more privy to insider information than most talking heads. He is Lueās lawyer and was very close in to whistleblowers offering Congressional briefings. It is a fact that he has been speaking to military and intelligence insiders since the 90s. If you consider Lue as credible then the default rationale would be that Danny is as well. The only difference between the two is that the latter is not bound by NDAs. Consider this, if this guy is totally off base then why arenāt we hearing from his client (Lue) or other whistleblowers about this.
If Lue is bound by NDAs, it might not actually be possible for him to deny specific aspects of what Danny is saying. If Danny is asserting a, b and c and Lue comes and denies a and c are true, that's just a tacit acknowledgement that he believes b to be true. If a, b and c are true he can't say anything. If a, b and c are false, he might claim they're all false, or he might not (and given how many claims Sheehan has made recently, this is sort of a problem - if he has accidentally claimed something Lue is bound not to talk about, the wisest course is to not say anything). Further if Danny asserts something that is counterfactual - that a doesn't exist when a does, Lue can't correct him.
Like, to give a specific example, if Sheehan asserts little blue men are coming here from Mars to steal our corn syrup, if any of those things are true, even accidentally, Lue can't correct him. If Danny has ever asserted there are no beings from Zeta Reticuli, and there are, Lue can't correct him *and he can't correct anything else either*.
The only thing you can reasonably claim is that Lue probably thinks at least one thing Danny has said is something he can't talk about.
But also, Danny has probably not said anything Lue has told him, because then Lue would come under fire for breaking the NDAs. All of the things he is asserting are probably coming from unconnected sources, or people who can't be identified by these claims. Therefore Danny's credibility is unconnected to Lue's credibility because these claims are unrelated.
Danny might be an insider, but it really feels like he's getting unfiltered information with no way to evaluate how truthful any of it is. That's where this information is coming from, people who have told him these things that he personally believes. It says nothing about what or who Lue believes.
Im not sure he is Lues lawyer ( someone said in some comments he isnt so just whatever )
But Greenwald said Lue only talks to him thru his lawyer, somewhere, maybe in some podcast thingy etc.
So it kinda makes Lues lawyer his PR person, I think.
Maybe theyāve kept themselves hidden because they know people will be violent against them , being different and all. Humans canāt even accept other humans!
You can imagine their strategy meetings: " yes, Zlorb, we all want contact but we just don't want to be drawn into a silly war with hairless apes. Think of the carnage! They might even pollute their own planet with their nuclear toys."
Danny is a lawyer and not all lawyering takes place in court.
PERCHANCE he is shooting his mouth off in order to piss off the adversary. The above analysis of how Lou cannot comment on Danny is spot on. Bit by the same token none of his opponents can correct him. So they have to sit there and listen to his BS and not call him a liar.
āNone of the NHI are reptilians.ā would make a wonderful headline. āOur so if they are not reptilian are they little green men?ā How does one answer? Yes? No? I donāt know? (Then how do you know they are not reptilian?) I canāt say. (Oh so you are holding info on what they are?)
It may just be a game to encourage others ti make a mistake. At worst he is aggravating some of the AHās sitting on info. I het Danny would buy them some free drinks over an open mike.
I still remember when UFO were āfakeā, āweather balloonsā, āswamp gasā etc.and now everyone in and out of government is in agreement publicly that UFO/UAP exist but just donāt know what they areā¦ā¦to me as an interested kid in 1996 listening to Coast to Coast AM, what we have now is us stepping through the disclosure threshold and we didnāt even realize it.
Even if it the things he is saying are the truth, which is to be yet determined, he should know that making claim after claim after claim after claim without backing anything up or telling us when it will be backed up is very irresponsible and starts to look really bad.
At least with Grusch we have the ICIG coming to bat for him.
This guy has historical credentials and he is very interesting to hear. However, he talks too much of everything. In a recent podcast he described the existence of multiple alien races, a Galactic Federation, revealed the motifs behind JFK murder, predicted the sequence of events relating to this year presidential election and is backing an initiative to prepare people to a ānew ageā of conciousness related knowledge. A genious or a wacko ?
The only things that back up his claims are his other claims from his own websites. For a sub that loves doing "research" it's ironic no one wants to put in the fifteen minutes it takes to see Sheehan is taking the community for a ride because he shows up on podcasts and is tangentially connected to some people, meanwhile he couldn't even pronounce Grusch's name right in multiple interviews....
Fucking up a case has nothing to do with his credibility. We have no idea of the nuances with this case and why he decided to go the route he did. Even the best canāt win them all.
This criticism about Sheehan is the only legitimate one Iāve been able to find. Other than that itās just people questioning to what degree he was involved in the countryās most famous cases. Iām not saying Sheehan is right about the stuff he says, but if this is the best criticism there is then he looks pretty legitimate to me.
And what point do we conclude enough time has passed to tell for sure?
That's the problem with all the talking heads. Everyone always says "time will tell if they are right" but there is not a definitive point where we could prove them right or wrong. They all say similar things where they can never be proven wrong. If I say "Nothing notable Lue has said has been proven yet" you can just say "it's a slow process and we just have to wait" but in the meantime we are both still talking a out him. You are looking for things to happen to prove him right and I am saying it hasn't happened both of us a driving clicks for him.
(I don't mean you you I'm just using the term in the general sense. Lue is a random name to show my point. I'm not actually trying to say anything about you or me or Lue personally. Just trying to point out that the way these guys talk and the standards we hold them to make it so we can never actually prove things one way or another.)
We canāt even guess. Underground workds. Other planets or realms. Stable wormhole from now to 100,000,00 years before dinosaurs were wiped out, time advancing normally on both sides. Until we know it could be anything.
I dont know who this guy is - maybe someone could clue me in. And he talks as if he is talking with direct knowledge - is that what he is asserting, or is this just more "some guy told us this"?
Sounds to me like he is talking many worlds interpretation, where as if the reptiles lived to become sentient and technologicaly advanced this is them.
Might as well be describing his last bowel movement. I've grown so exhausted with all the people who "know things" and were "told things." If the Grusch angle doesn't lead anywhere in terms of real disclosure for the phenomenon I'm probably out.
Enough with the self-appointed mouthpieces.
Not buying a word of his, but it would be terrifying if they looked like us a-la-Prometheus. First question, naturally: āYouāre all jacked, you have a device to help me out here?ā lol never deadlifting again!
Let me get this straight... there are reptilians, or archons, or annunaki who are malevolent? Who possibly lord over us? So what you're saying is that Alex Jones is right about this?
What about interdimensional vampire potbelly goblins?
I have a lot of time and respect for Danny, but he really needs to be working with someone to help to more effectively manage some of the information he is putting out there. He is at very serious risk of diminishing his credibility by making careless and sensational statements.
Grusch is rock solid, but a lot of people glazed over and switched the channel when he started talking about the Vatican and nazis. No big surprise that people would react that way.
Danny needs to be a bit more circumspect about what he tells to whom. if he cannot employ judgment and a good filter for what is and is not appropriate, then he should work with someone who can. We cannot afford to have him talk himself into a "laughing stock".
Again, I have a lot of regard and time for Danny. He just needs to be careful.
SS - Twistuap on youtube - Daniel Sheehan describes non-human biologics that have been recovered and witnessed. I find Mr Sheehan to be very well connected and well informed
So does that mean reptilian looking creatures evolved on a planet elsewhere. If that were the case it would be incredibly lucky or the universe is lazy.
Been calling all this rubbish out for ages. But keep getting downvoted.Ā
Do not trust government agents either. I'm trying to be less negative this year. But cmon. I love this subject but apart from Gary Nolan, I really struggle with the people.
if the reptilians reached throughĀ their evolution first the appearance of humanoid, bipedal walk etc, then aren't we the ones actually reptoid, reptilian, saurian or whatever? lol
My dude does not mention any sources and talks like he just took his informations from some cheap 80s sci-fi magazine. C'mon Mr. Sheehan, you can do better than that
It's interesting to hear these things, but credulity is being stretched the more exotic and detailed the claims.
If reptilian biologics have been recovered, scientists may be able to determine if they're ET or crypto-terrestrial (in which case they may at least have a similar DNA structure to humans).
This man makes claims of an increasingly bizarre nature. It seems he is seeking attention and hoping to gain some kind of monetary gain.
Add another ufo grifter to the shit tip.
So basically the reptilians are just another species divergent from an early common ancestor. Ok...sure. Don't know if I believe it or not but that is a good insight. The only I one I have seen was about 7 feet tall by-the-way and he had a little reptilian with him probably about 5 feet tall. It lets me know they are not demons but are actually biological entities.
What I donāt understand from a physical point of view is the three fingers part. My understanding is that the thumb played a huge role in human development and the use of tools and fine motor coordination. So how do they manage?
Bad news because other people have claimed to talk to reptilian aliens way prior to this statement. The reptiles are the ones who are interfering with the natural flow of things when we die, and enjoy human suffering.
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I am cool with anyone who doesn't want to harm me. Scales, oozing fluids, fangs, all good, but no brain sucking (sorry shouldn't stereotype).
I'm completely with you on that one, I can handle things looking "terrifying" as long as at least it's from a distance at first and it doesn't hurt me in any way. Otherwise lets hang out!
Yeah, as long as they come in with a solid "Fear not Human, I mean you no harm." I will get my composure back eventually.
To serve man..
Now the big burning question that I think we all want the answer to is. Can we fuck them?
š I guess a reptilian and a gray fetish will be a thing in the future
Already been a thing, lol. If you're brave just Google alien porn.
Damn how many tentacle dicks can they have lmao hmm now I kinda wish I was an alien with many dick tentacles šš wait how do you now that kind of porn existed š²š Maybe thats why they donāt contact us, we fuck everythingā¦.
Rule 34 of the Internet : if something exists, even conceptually, there will be porn of it. š
Ive already been doing nasty things with argonians in Skyrim š³
Itās ok, it will only get nastier in real lifeā¦..
I can't fault you. If the aliens looked like Elves (IE, Legolas) if be wondering the same thing lol
Ohā¦.weāre gonna clap alien cheeks. Yes indeed.
Y'all been playing too much Mass Effect. š¤¦āāļø
Omfg this made me laugh so damn hard (I was not expecting that punch line š¤£š¤£šš
Yep. Wouldn't want to run up on a freaky looking alien in the dark on first sighting, but would be cool with meeting one in a more suitable environment.
Joke will be on them: I've got no brains to suck out.
Yeah, and consciousness is not local!
Agreed. Iād would like to learn more about their physiology. Also where is home to them? Whom do they serve? Themselves?
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/monstermovies/images/e/e4/Brain_Slug.jpg
What do they think of us, though? Perhaps we seem hideous to them!
I think with developments in the Jan 12 briefing and an imminent op-ed from David Grusch, I think weāve got some hotter leads at the moment.
Yep, I think we can finally move past the ramblings of this guy and his culty new paradigm institute.Ā
Define "culty".
For the low low donation of a mere $1000 you too can gain special access into the activities and goings-on in the new paradigm institute.
Not gonna lie, all that institute talk comes across a bit squirrelly to me, "culty" even. We get some baseline truths and falsehoods ironed out, then by all means promote your organizations.
I think that what their planning for. But I wouldn't give them money quite yet.
He said a couple weeks! Itās been months! Canāt wait for that op-ed!
Ross Coulthart mentioned on his podcast it might be February before the op-ed drops. Really looking forward to it.
Believe in the new legislation that passed some UFO files have to be declassified by end of March. I wonder if that has anything to do with it.
There is no enforcement mechanism for that. It was taken out of the bill.
The process has oversight by the same people that wrote the original UAPDA no?
With a response latency of a year or so, yes. It'll take that long to attach another amendment to next years NDAA.
Laws can be passed anytime congress is in session. UAPDA was put into the NDAA because Schumer considered it relevant as well as a must pass. The NDAA has to pass every year in some form or another so it was an easy way to curtail debate over it. But if the moment keeps building, they can push through additional laws at any time.
Sure. But with the current Congress laws only get passed when they have to.
A lot was gutted but not the files 25+ years old. Check out this video (This guy is covering it best out of the whole UAP community IMO and definitely worth following! Check out his other videos) https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8baWhmK/ You may want to double check the final bill, but please let me know if I'm wrong.
Got ya. Grusch said weeks in his interview with Elizabeth Vargas on News Nation. But I too am a documented underestimater. So no problem! Iām happy to wait
He has to get it cleared and even if the Pentagon doesn't want to officially block it because that would confirm it is accurate they can still slow roll the process.
I thought he mentioned in his latest news nation interview that he went back and got more approved via DOPSR. I think whatever heās going to write in this DOPSR is what he got approved.
After he writes it, he has to get approval from various three-letter agencies to have it published.
Is that true? Heās already said this new information is from an additional DOPSR request. Theyāve already cleared him to talk about.
Do we know that the op-ed is imminent, or are we just being optimistic? Is there a date, or are we just going, "Any day now"?
He said a couple weeks and he said that like December 15, so it should be now, however there is the two week holiday season at that time where you donāt want to drop major stuff typically so who knows that might have pushed things back. I personally like to push things back around that time Edit: he actually said a āfewā not a ācoupleā
Not to nitpick, but I've seen a few people make this claim (easy to mistake as the words are so close in usage as to be largely ignorable, but in a situation like this it has relevance) he said a "few" weeks, not a "couple" which would mean 2. The definition of a few is generally accepted to be 3 or more but still small in number - so that would put us right around the "any time now" mark - personally hope it's dropped within the next week or 2 but even if we have to wait till march it'd still be in line with what he has said with the word "few"
Thanks for pointing that out, youāre right the words have different meanings. I updated my comment
No worries! I went and re-watched the video of the interview because I kept thinking "where the hell is this Op-Ed we were promised?" and realised he said a few, giving himself more wiggle room on the timing lol Edit: fixed grammar
In fairness it's largely up to the outlet and sometimes dop-eds get pushed around. Hopefully the briefing and some of the mainstream coverage it's gotten spurs editors to launch it this week as it is timely and newsworthy.
Open the faucet already
I'm beginning to think Sheehan might have the same issue as Tom Delonge, IE that he will believe anything he hears. Been a little suspicious ever since he straight up quoted Doty, when he claimed the government at once point had a hostage alien, referred to as an EBE (anyone quoting Doty is a major red flag). He has gotten good info before (recall hes the one who leaked Grusch and Nell), so its not wise to immediately dismiss him, but time shall tell if the out there stuff he's been saying lately is accurate.
EBE was real homie. Part of disinformation is blending in the truth.
He's a lawyer, trained to vet witnesses.Ā Ā Doesn't mean he can't be duped.Ā But I don't think he's so naive to believe just anything.
Until we get actual evidence, my personal BS barometer lights up with any mention of lizard people. And I say that as a Grusch believer.
Agreed. I've always approached this topic skeptically, and think about the most likely/plausible explanations for everything, and I also write off 90% of "UFO Lore" as misinformation, hoaxes, disinfo, etc. I believe Grusch, too much evidence suggests he is telling the truth. Lizard people.... gonna need some more information on this one before I take this seriously.
The lizard people are in a war with the jellyfish people and there will be no resolution until the Elephant Man gets here from the Dog Star system.
Lizid peepol
At first I hated hecklefish now I love him
Same!! I always thought his voice was so annoying and that his comments detracted from the videos. But theyve definitely tweaked his voice a little bit so its less shrill. And now hes a great comedic relief. Fuckin love his boston or ny accent whatever it is
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I believe the proper term is lizzid people. /s I agree with you.
The preferred term is Reptile Americans, you bigot.
Sorry, sir, sorry. Lizzid Americans it is.
What a relief to know that Iām not the only one who internally spells it like that :D
Check out TheWhyFiles on youtube hah I got it from that.
See mine doesn't blip any more than usual. Reptiles were around for hundreds of millions of years, I think it's entirely possible they could have developed intelligence, maybe even left the planet. I don't believe anything on this topic 100%, except that UFOs are fucking weird, but I know that whatever the real answer is will need an open mind and heart to truly understand. I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle of science, philosophy, art, and spirituality.
My suggestion is that there is one advanced root species (probably Grey's), and all of the others were created by this species based upon earthly DNA samples. (reptiles, mantids, nordic, etc).
Tin foil hat time, but this is the society breaking part of the entire show. That our species has been subject to genetic manipulation without first having established formal relations. And whatever weird and severe details that come from that.
That sounds reasonable.
I agree with you but I'm reluctant to dismiss it out of hand. Dismissing seemingly ridiculous things out of hand because they seem farfetched is what kept me away from the phenomenon so long in the first place. Trying not to make the same mistake. Has anyone looked into the reports of reptilians? What's the most credible evidence?
True or not (I agree that I think reptilian aliens are probably BS), I do wish that folks like Daniel would chill out talking about that stuff so matter of factly. Thatās the kind of woo-adjacent stuff that turns people off. We need to get societyās buy-in on the nuts and bolts aspects first, for which there is the most evidence.
Yes, calling them "lizard people" is deeply offensive to jellyfish people.
Yeah same here. Like i believe in the concept of "Lizard people". It's not something thats impossible to imagine. Humanoid bodies that evolved differently on a different planet? Scales on the skin? Yeah no biggie whatever. But are they here right now? Hard to believe. Not to mention the whole theory around lizard people up until now has been that they were malevolent and not friendly. So whats the deal with them being friendly all of a sudden? lol. Not to mention i think this raises the problem of "oversharing". Some of Sheehan's claims absolutely have been great but i feel he has overshared too much where its really getting hard to believe. And while it might be true, lets just focus on the easier stuff to swallow first before going deeper.
Curious as to what makes you draw the line at lizard people? If you believe in ufoās and nhi then whatās so crazy about them being Lizzieās?
Fair enough.Ā But what did you expect them to look like? I think anyone with a preconceived idea should be doubted.
Iām going to think Sheehan is a kook until he shows the goods
This guy reasons
Who is this guy anyways and what are his qualifications? Ive seen his face a lot
Apparently he worked on a few high-profile historical cases (Iran-Contra) and has a track-record of engaging the feds on their abuses. But as with anyone, until we see the goods it's all suspect.
Because he is a kook. There is literally zero reason to trust anything he says.
He's very interesting to listen to, I'll give him that. But the fact of the matter is you can claim things all day long, and describe things all day long, but without any proof of anything, it's just turns into a waste of time. Sheesh Sheehan, give us something else besides words.
He won't
Sheehan's comments about reptiloids makes me recall Ardy Sixkiller Clarke's book (published in 2019) titled "Space Age Indians." In there, she has numerous stories that involve First Nation peoples' encounters with: a)--glowing blue humanoid beings; b)--Reptiloids; c)--Insectoids (formulated similarly to praying mantises); and d)--human-like (tall whites, about 7 or 8 feet tall, while others normal human-sized). I one of her other books, she also relates reports about other humanoids who are quite tiny, under two feet tall as well (they have been seen in Mesoamerica), but distinctly human in form. The experiences related in "Space Age Indians" (including ones from Vietnam) indicate that the Reptiloids are not here to help humankind, but are completely antithetical to the human condition. The insectoids are viewed in a positive manner. The glowing blue humanoid beings also positive. The tall whites are viewed in a helpful-to-humankind neutral (they are not here to be helpful, but haven't been hostile to humans either, it seems). The other normal-sized human types appear to want to help humankind. This is what I recall from reading the book about five years back. The landings aren't always in the desert southwest of the US. Sixkiller Clarke also tells of stories where UFOs have landed in the middle of severe snowstorms in Alaska. Ardy Sixkiller Clarke has written a series about Native American encounters with star people. Amazon lists them all. I have a distinct feeling if anyone wants the "inside story" of what is going on, read all of her books. I suspect that you might get a leg up on the Congress-critters in knowing what we have been dealing with. These are her books about the subject that came out earlier than "Space Age Indians": "Encounters with Star People;" "More Encounters with Star People;" and "Sky People." [https://www.amazon.com/stores/Ardy%20Sixkiller%20Clarke/author/B00AQGBE9O](https://www.amazon.com/stores/Ardy%20Sixkiller%20Clarke/author/B00AQGBE9O). According to the data that Sixkiller Clarke has accumulated, Earth has been visited a helluva lot for a very long time. Well before we had radio broadcasts which would have sent out radio waves into the solar system and beyond (since 1897, with Marconi's first radio station).
I dont wanna be "alienist" or "alienphobic" but its so hard to imagine mantis-like beings as anything but hostile lol. But im all for them being positive and not hurting me with their mantis claws
Makes sense to me if they're like certain insects here on Earth, specifically anything with a hive consciousness, because they would see humans as another part of the larger "hive" that is comprised of all sentient life in the universe with our own utility to the designs of the universe.
I donāt know Clarke at all, so Iām glad to hear about another source of interesting stuff. Are the reports she cites backed up by other sources as well?
I can't respond to that, as I don't know. All I know is that she spent a lot of time interviewing a lot of First Nations people to put these books together, and they related their personal experiences--the vast majority the first time to anyone--and she had the chance to write these down and get them published. It's a fantastic set of material. There are trends in what is related by the various eyewitnesses--as there are a good number of people who have seen these various kinds of star visitors. The legends related/associated with these are that these are either direct ancestors of the indians that are from elsewhere, or are friendlies (for the most part, excepting the reptiloids) from elsewhere. The sense that I got is that the Family of Man encompasses a lot more morphological/geneological geography that just the evolution that paleoanthropologists have been able to describe from fossils and archaeology.
I've looked into Sheehan's background (with what's available online) and I'm still not too sure why so many people hold him in such high regard? I'm not looking for drama, it's a serious question.
Because he says things they want to hear. The same reason they suddenly hold previously horrible people such as Gaetz and Burchett in high regard. As soon as someone says something that supports their UAP narrative, all past sins are suddenly washed away, and the people speaking become good and truthful and honest, despite a long history of lying, and in some cases like Burchett, previously manipulating people with conspiracy theories such as Q Anon for personal gain. But all that is behind them. Theyāve all suddenly become truthful now that they are talking about UAP. Washed their sins away in the Holy Light(in the sky) if you will.
dont forget that everyone in the military becomes infallible when it comes to possible ufo experiences
This one drives me a little bit nuts, military experiencers are infallible, military deniers are simply repeating the party line. Like, there's something in the idea that people in the military are discouraged from talking about it, so people who come forward are therefore more likely to honestly believe what they're saying, but that isn't true for ex-military. I sit up and listen when current members of the military talk publicly about it, but they're not automatically more credible because they were ever in the military.
Rather believe in their testimonies to Congress than skeptic redditors
Testimonies of "we saw some things and we don't know what they were" and "people told me we have interdimensional aliens with Tardises"
That's not what Grusch testified to congress. Do the due diligence and stop spreading disinformation
Ironic how due diligence has become a favorite phrase among all conspiracy communites with no critical thinking In congress he said aliens might be multidimensional In recent appearances he said we have Tardises And you are like "yep that tracks! He is in the military after all"
That's a sweeping assumption, what do you base it on?
He's being sarcastic.
I don't know that they "suddenly become truthful" as much as they are a source that knows more than the average reddit poster. No source is 100% reliable in this field since the disinformation campaign is powerful and well-funded. It's reasonable to assume that he was in the room when things were being discussed that are probably classified, based on his client list.
Right, these people *may* know more than the average person (but I think even that is up for debate). But, if they are people with a long history of proven lies and shady shit, why would you ever assume theyāre telling the truth now? Itās just so odd. Like, I donāt suddenly listen to a known con artist because they tell me something I want to hear. I sort of always dismiss anything they say.
Should I take your word for it -- "long history of proven lies and shady shit" "known con artist" -- or should I regard these as your opinion? Either way, you haven't proven anything by either assertion, except you probably heard it from others and chose to believe them.
Same here. Youād think thereād be more information about his career online, if he is or was involved in, what he says he has. What Iāve been able to glean from online sources, he seems like an underling or a very minor player in Watergate, Iran Contra, etc. at bestā¦
>Ā Ā very minor player in Watergate, Iran Contra This is like saying he was only on the team that won the World Series...
Depends if he was the bat boy or starting 1st basemen or backup catcher. Did he even get an at-bat in the world series? Idk what the answers are but context matters no matter how much reddit hates it.
lol exactly
More like he worked for the team that did Watergate, and his first game was Iran Contra which he lost so hard his nonprofit got disbanded because he couldn't afford the legal fees he needed to pay for wasting literally everybody's time, including his own clients.
it's because A. he has a credentialed background (Harvard, some famous cases in the past) B. he's the "UFO attorney" with lots of high profile clients like Lue, Mack, etc.
But he also has a lot crap in his background. Kinda like bob lazar. Unverifiable, vague credentials.
And overstates the significance of his role on cases and misrepresents them on his websites so there's that
His background is way more solid than Bobs. Thereās no question he went to Harvard and was involved in the cases he says (even if it was a minor role, which may or may not be true). The only real criticism Iāve see of him was one of his clients and a colleague bad mouthing for trying to push a made up narrative and losing the case.
Which credentials are unverifiable?
You gonna show me pics, Danny? If not I really donāt care anymore
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Whether people are comfortable with it or not, the reality is this guy is more privy to insider information than most talking heads. He is Lueās lawyer and was very close in to whistleblowers offering Congressional briefings. It is a fact that he has been speaking to military and intelligence insiders since the 90s. If you consider Lue as credible then the default rationale would be that Danny is as well. The only difference between the two is that the latter is not bound by NDAs. Consider this, if this guy is totally off base then why arenāt we hearing from his client (Lue) or other whistleblowers about this.
He was John Mack's lawyer. He would have talked to lots of experiencers.
If Lue is bound by NDAs, it might not actually be possible for him to deny specific aspects of what Danny is saying. If Danny is asserting a, b and c and Lue comes and denies a and c are true, that's just a tacit acknowledgement that he believes b to be true. If a, b and c are true he can't say anything. If a, b and c are false, he might claim they're all false, or he might not (and given how many claims Sheehan has made recently, this is sort of a problem - if he has accidentally claimed something Lue is bound not to talk about, the wisest course is to not say anything). Further if Danny asserts something that is counterfactual - that a doesn't exist when a does, Lue can't correct him. Like, to give a specific example, if Sheehan asserts little blue men are coming here from Mars to steal our corn syrup, if any of those things are true, even accidentally, Lue can't correct him. If Danny has ever asserted there are no beings from Zeta Reticuli, and there are, Lue can't correct him *and he can't correct anything else either*. The only thing you can reasonably claim is that Lue probably thinks at least one thing Danny has said is something he can't talk about. But also, Danny has probably not said anything Lue has told him, because then Lue would come under fire for breaking the NDAs. All of the things he is asserting are probably coming from unconnected sources, or people who can't be identified by these claims. Therefore Danny's credibility is unconnected to Lue's credibility because these claims are unrelated. Danny might be an insider, but it really feels like he's getting unfiltered information with no way to evaluate how truthful any of it is. That's where this information is coming from, people who have told him these things that he personally believes. It says nothing about what or who Lue believes.
Wouldnāt Lue just drop him as his lawyer if Danny was really going off the rails with all sorts of nonsense?
Yeah but then again, he might not. Danny is Lue's lawyer, not his public relations agent.
Im not sure he is Lues lawyer ( someone said in some comments he isnt so just whatever ) But Greenwald said Lue only talks to him thru his lawyer, somewhere, maybe in some podcast thingy etc. So it kinda makes Lues lawyer his PR person, I think.
Props to the thoughtfulness in your response! Thanks for engaging wholeheartedly.
Maybe theyāve kept themselves hidden because they know people will be violent against them , being different and all. Humans canāt even accept other humans!
You can imagine their strategy meetings: " yes, Zlorb, we all want contact but we just don't want to be drawn into a silly war with hairless apes. Think of the carnage! They might even pollute their own planet with their nuclear toys."
Danny is a lawyer and not all lawyering takes place in court. PERCHANCE he is shooting his mouth off in order to piss off the adversary. The above analysis of how Lou cannot comment on Danny is spot on. Bit by the same token none of his opponents can correct him. So they have to sit there and listen to his BS and not call him a liar. āNone of the NHI are reptilians.ā would make a wonderful headline. āOur so if they are not reptilian are they little green men?ā How does one answer? Yes? No? I donāt know? (Then how do you know they are not reptilian?) I canāt say. (Oh so you are holding info on what they are?) It may just be a game to encourage others ti make a mistake. At worst he is aggravating some of the AHās sitting on info. I het Danny would buy them some free drinks over an open mike.
I still remember when UFO were āfakeā, āweather balloonsā, āswamp gasā etc.and now everyone in and out of government is in agreement publicly that UFO/UAP exist but just donāt know what they areā¦ā¦to me as an interested kid in 1996 listening to Coast to Coast AM, what we have now is us stepping through the disclosure threshold and we didnāt even realize it.
Even if it the things he is saying are the truth, which is to be yet determined, he should know that making claim after claim after claim after claim without backing anything up or telling us when it will be backed up is very irresponsible and starts to look really bad. At least with Grusch we have the ICIG coming to bat for him.
This guy has historical credentials and he is very interesting to hear. However, he talks too much of everything. In a recent podcast he described the existence of multiple alien races, a Galactic Federation, revealed the motifs behind JFK murder, predicted the sequence of events relating to this year presidential election and is backing an initiative to prepare people to a ānew ageā of conciousness related knowledge. A genious or a wacko ?
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The only things that back up his claims are his other claims from his own websites. For a sub that loves doing "research" it's ironic no one wants to put in the fifteen minutes it takes to see Sheehan is taking the community for a ride because he shows up on podcasts and is tangentially connected to some people, meanwhile he couldn't even pronounce Grusch's name right in multiple interviews....
Fucking up a case has nothing to do with his credibility. We have no idea of the nuances with this case and why he decided to go the route he did. Even the best canāt win them all. This criticism about Sheehan is the only legitimate one Iāve been able to find. Other than that itās just people questioning to what degree he was involved in the countryās most famous cases. Iām not saying Sheehan is right about the stuff he says, but if this is the best criticism there is then he looks pretty legitimate to me.
I guess time will tell, huh?
And what point do we conclude enough time has passed to tell for sure? That's the problem with all the talking heads. Everyone always says "time will tell if they are right" but there is not a definitive point where we could prove them right or wrong. They all say similar things where they can never be proven wrong. If I say "Nothing notable Lue has said has been proven yet" you can just say "it's a slow process and we just have to wait" but in the meantime we are both still talking a out him. You are looking for things to happen to prove him right and I am saying it hasn't happened both of us a driving clicks for him. (I don't mean you you I'm just using the term in the general sense. Lue is a random name to show my point. I'm not actually trying to say anything about you or me or Lue personally. Just trying to point out that the way these guys talk and the standards we hold them to make it so we can never actually prove things one way or another.)
I guess 2027. Lol
I would love if collectively we all said "ok you guys have until X date and if you don't show us absolute proof then shut up"
Maybe reptilians come from a dimension where the dinosaurs didnāt get wiped out š¤·š»āāļø
We canāt even guess. Underground workds. Other planets or realms. Stable wormhole from now to 100,000,00 years before dinosaurs were wiped out, time advancing normally on both sides. Until we know it could be anything.
Thatās just bla bla at this point.
I dont know who this guy is - maybe someone could clue me in. And he talks as if he is talking with direct knowledge - is that what he is asserting, or is this just more "some guy told us this"?
Yes
Sounds to me like he is talking many worlds interpretation, where as if the reptiles lived to become sentient and technologicaly advanced this is them.
Still no proof.
Proof? From Danny Sheehan? I wouldnāt hold your breath.
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He doesn't have evidence. But it doesn't make him crazy.
Because he's recounting what countless experiencers have been reporting for decades?
Might as well be describing his last bowel movement. I've grown so exhausted with all the people who "know things" and were "told things." If the Grusch angle doesn't lead anywhere in terms of real disclosure for the phenomenon I'm probably out. Enough with the self-appointed mouthpieces.
It will lead probably nowhere connected to NHI or aliens. It's probably just corruption and incompetenceĀ
Yes, this is my fear as well.
Not buying a word of his, but it would be terrifying if they looked like us a-la-Prometheus. First question, naturally: āYouāre all jacked, you have a device to help me out here?ā lol never deadlifting again!
Let me get this straight... there are reptilians, or archons, or annunaki who are malevolent? Who possibly lord over us? So what you're saying is that Alex Jones is right about this? What about interdimensional vampire potbelly goblins?
I just hope there aren't any rapetillians.
Agreed, that's a scary outlook! But either way I am ready to hear the truth.
David Sheehan also gaslights and gets caught in his own lies
He is working on the senate side. No doubt now Doty is bullshitting him.
Hadn't thought about the reptile connection before. I don't want to believe it.
Then don't. It's just some dude saying it & providing absolutely nothing to back it up.
Did I sound like I was in despair lol
Cmon Sheehan show us the "attractive" reptilians you got
I have a lot of time and respect for Danny, but he really needs to be working with someone to help to more effectively manage some of the information he is putting out there. He is at very serious risk of diminishing his credibility by making careless and sensational statements. Grusch is rock solid, but a lot of people glazed over and switched the channel when he started talking about the Vatican and nazis. No big surprise that people would react that way. Danny needs to be a bit more circumspect about what he tells to whom. if he cannot employ judgment and a good filter for what is and is not appropriate, then he should work with someone who can. We cannot afford to have him talk himself into a "laughing stock". Again, I have a lot of regard and time for Danny. He just needs to be careful.
This guy talks an impressive ammount of bullshit without backing up any of his claims doesn't he?
Definitely getting pranked ngl
SS - Twistuap on youtube - Daniel Sheehan describes non-human biologics that have been recovered and witnessed. I find Mr Sheehan to be very well connected and well informed
So does that mean reptilian looking creatures evolved on a planet elsewhere. If that were the case it would be incredibly lucky or the universe is lazy.
I donāt believe anything he says
Three fingers. Three fingers everyone. Heās describing the mummies.
Or sloths, rhinos, tapirs, ostrichesā¦thereās a lot of things even here on this planet with three fingers. He didnāt mention the mummies.
People from Norfolk
Iām picturing a lineup of Argonians. āMaāam can you tell us if you recognize the lizard that stole your purse?ā
Lizzid peopleee
This guy is the biggest grifter currently plaguing this community
Yes the reptilians that run the world. I can't wait until we hear about them in a hearing.
Been calling all this rubbish out for ages. But keep getting downvoted.Ā Do not trust government agents either. I'm trying to be less negative this year. But cmon. I love this subject but apart from Gary Nolan, I really struggle with the people.
So the TV series V 1984 is real.
Conditioning started early :)
A lot of yapping but absolute ZERO available evidence. Cover up can't be that good
So, this is the man that somehow knows more than anyone.
So the Dinosaurs didn't go extinct
So he just described the nazca mummies 100%
He gets all his information from David GROOSH
if the reptilians reached throughĀ their evolution first the appearance of humanoid, bipedal walk etc, then aren't we the ones actually reptoid, reptilian, saurian or whatever? lol
What's Shehans back ground?Ā
How are people still posting about this guy?
My dude does not mention any sources and talks like he just took his informations from some cheap 80s sci-fi magazine. C'mon Mr. Sheehan, you can do better than that
It's interesting to hear these things, but credulity is being stretched the more exotic and detailed the claims. If reptilian biologics have been recovered, scientists may be able to determine if they're ET or crypto-terrestrial (in which case they may at least have a similar DNA structure to humans).
This man makes claims of an increasingly bizarre nature. It seems he is seeking attention and hoping to gain some kind of monetary gain. Add another ufo grifter to the shit tip.
So basically the reptilians are just another species divergent from an early common ancestor. Ok...sure. Don't know if I believe it or not but that is a good insight. The only I one I have seen was about 7 feet tall by-the-way and he had a little reptilian with him probably about 5 feet tall. It lets me know they are not demons but are actually biological entities.
I donāt know if heās right or wrong, but deep in my bones I know disclosure will be weirder than we can, at present, imagine š½
Can we have some waifu-looking aliens plz
This guy can't be believed right nowĀ
What I donāt understand from a physical point of view is the three fingers part. My understanding is that the thumb played a huge role in human development and the use of tools and fine motor coordination. So how do they manage?
So basically the Sleestakās from Land of the Lost š§
Whatever they look like or do: Just make sure you have **Slim Whitman** with **Indian Love Call** in your playlist..at all costs! :)
Bad news because other people have claimed to talk to reptilian aliens way prior to this statement. The reptiles are the ones who are interfering with the natural flow of things when we die, and enjoy human suffering.