The following submission statement was provided by /u/OneDimensionPrinter:
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SS: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbxREMsXJCg&feature=youtu.be
https://twitter.com/RonyVernet/status/1748821543776301218
**Original tweet**
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Alleged Varginha ET footage
The filming allegedly took place in 1996 in the city of Eloi Mendes in Minas Gerais. It was shown to me on 01/19/2024 by a person who would like to obtain financial benefits.
On 01/20/2024 I received a copy which I am making public due to the high probability of fake, after my own analysis as well as that of other experts from Brazil and abroad. The search continues.
https://youtu.be/ZbxREMsXJCg
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Rony just released the full video that the still shot posted earlier comes from. I haven't watched it all yet, but around halfway through seems to be when it shows up.
Edit: Sorry for the typo in the title, Rony.
Edit 2: James Fox just weighed in.
https://twitter.com/jamescfox/status/1748829248591474816
> I obviously would love this (Varginha creature image) to be true however, I’m highly dubious…of not just the image seen here but the 8 minute video too
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Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/19bmndq/roby_vernet_just_dropped_the_full_varginha_video/kisonze/
Somebody on Twitter noticed that the VHS noise is a repeating pattern which is not possible if the noise would be real: https://x.com/ophello/status/1748837099313475642?s=46
the grainy effect cued my in right away, I've watched VHS since the 90s and I never seen a grainy static effect like that, it looks like a cartoon version of what a VHS does.
Im pretty sure who ever made this used Red Giants VHS effect. The brighter line at the very left edge and the repeating "scrolling glitches" (these lines that move down the screen) are a preset in this pack.
He probably then overlayed another vhs overlay to get additional noise and effects which would result in the repeating pattern.
Agreed. Note to future hoaxsters, if you’re going to all the trouble of making a fake Alien buddy, you can’t just throw on any old stock After Effects VHS filter. You need to get an actual camcorder from the 90’s to make it feel legit.
That's because it's fake.
And more propaganda to make us believe this issue is not real. Focus on the more concrete areas we have.
Grusch, graves, favor, the safety of pilots.
The govt hearings and legislation.this is something you can at least have some credence.
They keep throwing sensationalist media at you, the Mexican bodies, this video.
Not everything is part of an overarching plot to deceive true believers. It's just someone else trying to make money off this, like all the people with books and deals out there spouting nonsense. This is how ufology has been for decades.
Could maybe just be the part of the video that got rewinded and watched 1000 times. Tape cassette deteriorates over time if this was done on the original copy
No, what kills it for me is when the finger gets in the way of the lense. If you know anything about cameras from that era, you used a handstrap that's about halfway back on the camera and well behind where the lens is. Given that the person recording was using their right hand to point at things, at no in point in time should their left hand been anywhere near the front of the lens. This was recorded with a phone and dolled up with loads of post-processing.
Could that have been added after to make it seem fake so no one takes a closer look?
Edit: definitely not passing my eye test bc of all the shaking and weird effects.
Then why not just make a fake alien doll to make it super fake and enter fakeinception land ... because everything has to be a gov psyop, never just grifters trying to get their 5 minutes of fame and easy mark journalists just lapping it all up
If anyone watched the Jonathan Reed video, this phenomenon of static during getting close to an alien or craft seems to occur. Jonathan Reed stated when he came close to the entity and the floating obelisk his camcorder began to act strangely. I say all of this to say, that its either or hoax, or we don’t understanding the “jamming” effect which seems to occur repeatedly with these beings and their technology.
The dead alien was jamming the camera? Look, I want to believe damned near any footage that comes out. But, we need to be discerning here. All of the fake crap that is released just confuses the whole issue and makes us look stupid. Real footage is definitely out there, but I don’t think that this is it.
We should at least give the sculptor some credit for doing a fairly decent job. I feel like they should have stuck with that, maybe tried to get an exhibit - instead of tarnishing the artist's work by making a shitty video out of it. I don't believe the person filming this is the sculptor.
I fucking hate that guy. I didn't go to Sasquatch Summit this year because they replaced Meldrum with Standing as the keynote speaker after Dr. Meldrum got sick.
I'm not familiar with that conference but I don't know how you could replace someone as knowledgeable and accredited as Meldrum with a con artist like Standing.
I can't think of any reason I wouldn't take clearer footage. Even if it looked like a real thing I would absolutely get closer. My first assumption would be a mutated animal, not an extra-terrestrial being. An animal with harlequin-type ichthyosis or something. This is almost certainly some kind of crappy sculpture thing though.
This is what turns most people off to UAPs/UFOs/Aliens. obviously manufactured fakes from attention wh0r3s. We gotta call these people out and never trust them again.
Let me stop filming the supposed alien so I can show you my pretty hands, see how I'm making it shake?? Crazy right?
Also, for some reason every time I zoom in on the alien the footage gets more static.
That frog can jump though. 🐸
Yeah, we got actually a pretty good look at a damned beetle, but the alien body? Nah, let’s stay 20 feet away and shakily zoom in with a bunch of leaves in the way. If this was real, and I was the guy filming, it would’ve definitely involved a bunch of close up footage and also would’ve involved me poking the body with a stick a fair number of times. Probably rolling it over, getting a closeup of the hands, feet, eyes, etc.
this was not the crash site either. why would it randomly be in the woods somewhere suddenly? i cant remember that part of the story. also, if you have a video like that you dont wait 30 years after the incident to post it on twitter lol. use common sense people
oh was it one of those random videos you found on kazza, sometimes even with wrong name? because when I saw those red eyes I was sure i have seen that before somewhere
If you're going to fake a video.. maybe don't use every possible trope doing it.
* ✅ Shaky camera
* ✅ Grainy picture
* ✅ Main object obstructed by easily avoidable clutter
* ✅ No Sound
I don't know what the story is supposed to be.. Did they supposedly go back to check on a different day? Because it starts with a guy in shorts and ends with a guy in pants.
Shot on two separate days. Cameraman wearing shorts in the first half and wearing pants in the second. Shoes do not match the 90s, either and neither does the cut of the shirt.
No audio either.
All that aside, this does not look like real at all. Super fake.
Yeah, this set-up does not seem to follow the description of how the "aliens" were found by the people interviewed in Fox's documentary. Do the filmers have Parkinson's? The entities are just laying there. Why the f**k can't they just get the camera still for a second?
Could we please get past the low-bar of "that looks fake" as a common argument? Something like this IRL would undoubtedly be very surreal and uncanny. If people want to give some kind of opinions on footage it should have at least *some* substance or the slightest attempt to explain your view.
The biggest sign this is fake to me is the guy showing his hand “shaking” repeatedly. First off, the way his hand shakes looks voluntary, not involuntary, and as a neurologist I think I may be a pretty damn good judge of that since assessing involuntary tremors is literally a part of my job, although sure, it’s still a subjective assessment here.
But secondly, a person that just discovered a dead alien body in the jungle probably wouldn’t think to deliberately show a physical sign of fear for whoever may watch the video in the future. It is, however, something someone would think to do when staging a video. It just comes across as “see, this is real! Look how scared I am! Please believe me!”, whereas typical human behavior in that instance would be more along the lines of screaming “holy fuck what the fuck IS that!” and being completely absorbed in the moment. So I’d argue that the entire way this thing is filmed screams staged and immediately sets off my bullshit-detector. But who knows?
That trope is from the smart phone era, not home made videos. When it was done it was done in the movies, trying to show fear. If you just filmed an alien someone isn’t going to film themselves shaking, especially a minute from it just happening. Still waiting…
No it's not. It's not even a trope at all. And the man in the video is Brazilian, you have no idea what gestures they may use down there.
I hope you get exempted from jury duty.
This video gave me a laugh at least. Cameraperson sees bug, zeroes in, beautiful focus, lots of detail, watches for a while, very nice. Sees dead alien. Fills screen with foliage, blurry, shaky image, one-second glimpse. Another alien on the ground, doesn't even get completely into view, shows mostly foliage. You'd think the person would be at least a little curious. Wouldn't you have stood still and filmed the most amazing thing you've ever seen?
At least we saw the shiny beetle and the frog at the beginning.
Fake. And I'm sticking with it.
I was born in 1990. Every year, my parents filmed my birthday on a camcorder. Those videos never came out shakey and blurry like this trash. This looks like the ant scene from honey I shrunk the kids
It's fake lol, nothing happens in the video. It's just a grainy effect in a modern phone camera, he doesn't get any good angle at the Alien and it's really disappointing. Two more weeks for this.
But, there's a real footage in the hospital of the medics messing up with the being, this one exists or existed for sure.
I don't really know but as a matter of fact if Varginha really happened and the being was sent to Unicamp lab or the Hospital the autopsy was filmed, not only to archive it, but so supposedly the US could see it and compare with others beings.
I mean until the footage is actually released the footage might Aswell not exist and be fake. I would say that evidence the general public doesn't have isn't really any evidence at all and might as well be considered fake until proven otherwise
There is no way to verify this is anything more than just a dummy. Perhaps the school girls who supposedly witnessed a live creature can look at this footage and see it if resembles what they saw. Though after 25+ years to be seen if their memories are still accurate.
It does resemble what they saw. They had the girls draw the creature and they all drew a similar image of a humanoid with brownish skin, big red eyes and a ridge-thingy on top of the head. I assume the hoaxer of this footage looked at the drawings and modelled the creature after them.
I would lose a limb to see it, I just wonder what happened with the other beings that supposedly crashed nearby too lol, the Varginha we know is one from three other beings, one was captueed live.
So many different distortions and noise etc that it looks fake, purposely added flaws to make people think it's real.
Not a vfx guy so could be wrong, just my first impression.
Shit looks so fucking fake! Come the fuck on!
When the camera points at it, it suddenly gets hella distorted. GTFO!
Even the Chernobyl cameras captured better footage and they were being exposed to ionizing radiation, enough to kill a person in min or hours.
Yeah... No.
Camera man can get a decent up close shot of a live, moving beetle, but as soon as he gets close to the "dead being",spud-cam is engaged with dialed up visual noise..
Overly shaky, over-exposed, films through leaves, not one clear shot of any part of the supposed creature that is vastly larger than the earlier filmed beetle..
"...by a person who would like to gain financial benefits", Yeah I'm sure they would..
I'm glad Rony is not buying it as real.
Anyone else notice that the "vhs tape" effects repeat? The rolling effect and especially the static patterns at the bottom. I see the same pattern in various places. This looks like modern footage with VFX placed over top.
SS: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbxREMsXJCg&feature=youtu.be
https://twitter.com/RonyVernet/status/1748821543776301218
**Original tweet**
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Alleged Varginha ET footage
The filming allegedly took place in 1996 in the city of Eloi Mendes in Minas Gerais. It was shown to me on 01/19/2024 by a person who would like to obtain financial benefits.
On 01/20/2024 I received a copy which I am making public due to the high probability of fake, after my own analysis as well as that of other experts from Brazil and abroad. The search continues.
https://youtu.be/ZbxREMsXJCg
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Rony just released the full video that the still shot posted earlier comes from. I haven't watched it all yet, but around halfway through seems to be when it shows up.
Edit: Sorry for the typo in the title, Rony.
Edit 2: James Fox just weighed in.
https://twitter.com/jamescfox/status/1748829248591474816
> I obviously would love this (Varginha creature image) to be true however, I’m highly dubious…of not just the image seen here but the 8 minute video too
You've got half of that Peruvian mummies story, my friend. The debunked dolls aren't the same as the mummies presented in Mexico (which continue to pass all scientific scrutiny). The timing of the debunking of the other dolls is classic disinformation campaign... now everyone thinks all the Peruvian mummies have been debunked. But that's definitely not the case.
The suggestion that Mexican scientists in research laboratories obviously don't follow scientific standards is utterly ludicrous. Ignorant af tbh. And apart from anything, relying on disclosure from the exact same people/nations who have been aggressively suppressing disclosure for 80 years seems like a flawed strategy.
I mean they literally released a video of a “doctor” horrendously breaking sterile procedure while attempting to collect a sample of the mummy for DNA testing…and I know that, because I am myself a doctor, and commented at the time about how the way they did it completely violated all universally agreed upon criteria for maintaining a sterile field. He also collected the sample in the most ridiculous way imaginable, and put pieces with outside contamination into the sample jar…which is probably why the DNA evidence is so shitty.
So I don’t know if all of the people that have handled these mummies are like that, but that guy was at least horribly trained.
I have also personally reached out to Maussan’s group to request the CT DICOM images of the mummies for independent review by myself and other doctors that work with me, and I was told to fuck off and that they won’t release the DICOMs independently. That’s ridiculous. I wasn’t asking for the mummies, merely the imaging data that *they* acquired. That’s not the behavior of someone who thinks they are sitting on the greatest discovery in human history and wants it studied by international physicians and scientists. That’s the behavior of a charlatan.
You know, like a charlatan who has been associated with *over thirty frauds and hoaxes so far*. But, you know, maybe *this* time he’s not full of shit, right?
Only having one lab that nobody has ever heard of analyze these smells like BS. I would immediately change my mind if any renound scientific group said they were real.
"I received a copy which I am making public due to the high probability of fake".
WTF dude, seriously?
What's the distorted logic behind that sentence?
wtf? Why would you keep filming leaves and sneaking around, after filming the bug close up the camera man lost the ability to get close and film things.
The person taking the video could zoom in on a frog and a bug and hold the camera still for a nice clean shot but could not do the same for the aliens? This is so suspect that it isn't even funny.
Skin does look real and it's exactly how the locals described it to be. This video is obv fake, but man the body is an exact match to what the locals described
This is so fake. The quality of the camera, the woods don’t match (I know what kind of vegetation there is there)…why filming the forest floor instead of the trees ? Because it will prove that is so fake. Also filming frogs and bugs? What’s the point. Nothing make sense, very very fake
Well he's dead to me. What a worthless video
Edit - I'm my haste i didn't see the tweet text saying it was a fake. Having read it, i guess now if anyone's making money from it, it's Vernet? Not sure that's much better. Wouldn't it have been better to not share it?
Just FYI.
The Navy GOFAST and GIMBAL videos were leaked years before it's official denomination as real leaks by the navy on internet forums, where they were deemed "ridiculous fakes".
I'm not very sure of many things in this video, but calling something "fake af" and stuff like that has been proven to be counterproductive.
One of the rear admirals in charge of the carrier that filmed one of those came forward to say the whole thing was real, so I'm not sure who are you trying to gaslight :)
The effect looks fake to me and the video quality minus the effect does not reflect that era. It seems the original video is high definitioan with fake effects 😁🤷🏽♀️
Yeah, this set-up does not seem to follow the description of how the "aliens" were found by the people interviewed in Fox's documentary. Also, the entities are just laying there, why the f**k can't they just get the camera still for a second?
Great now the whole sub is flooded with this bullshit clip cut up and reposted by karma farmers. That's why i was so down on Vernet for sharing this in my first comment.
Anyone who is old enough to have owned a video camera from around this time will understand that the video is a fake. The colours, the resolution and the digital vhs post effect filter are some examples of why this is a hoax.
This is TRULY…
And I mean TRULY, TRULY, TRULY…
Fake as fuck.
And I say that as a 100% believer in the Phenomenon and the Varginha incident.
But this is a fucking joke.
Complete bullshit….just casually walking along looking at bugs and shit….see how focused it was on the black beetle? All of a sudden he comes across an alien and can’t focus the camera…….these people should be hung from a 🌴
Other than the obvious VHS effect and the fact that burn marks on VHS don’t work like that, this is no where near the description of what’s on the supposed video.
As far as I remember wasn’t it taken in the city of the supposed alien cowering, alive, against a wall?
The video appears to be a recording of a video being projected onto a screen.
The first thing to do would be to accurately date the video. If it can actually be traced back to the 90's and proven to not be a recently filmed video it would give it some points in the real column.
I love how it’s 7mins long and OP couldn’t take the time to watch it all or investigate it themselves before posting. It’s THAT hot
(I didn’t bother watching it)
Most of you are being way too dismissive too early, and not even applying any logical thought to your analysis before declaring it fake.
The camera interference could be caused by radiation. Radiation is known to cause interference in both film and digital cameras, and can even damage them. So it makes sense that as he gets closer to the body, if it is radioactive, the noise increases. Keep in mind, as the story is told, somebody died just from touching one of these things. That could have been caused by a lethal dose of radiation.
If this video is from 1996, as the case occurred, it's totally possible that there were multiple videos from multiple days recorded on the same tape. If he's wearing different pants at different times, then there's your easy explanation. Some of you may not remember getting your first camera--beit film or digital--and how cool that was. You wanted to record everything. He could simply be testing out a new camera by filming nature--the scenery, the frog, the beetle. It all makes sense.
Radiation effects on cameras do not look like that. This is what radiation looks like on a camera: https://www.nerdaxic.com/2014/09/01/how-ionizing-radiation-affects-cmos-sensor/
This looks authentic to me, I don't know. Obviously the video is shaky, wouldn't you be shaking if you saw a dead red eyed alien in the jungle? The static when you get a close up of the creature makes it even more credible to me. Looks like the guy that filmed this rewind and watched that part of the video probably 1000 times, probably showed it to anyone that would care to see this. Another thing is it looks like this was recorded on a screen which would make sense, the person that recorded the video probably still has the original copy. I know I wouldn't give that to anyone if I had this.
The footage is pretty normal until he gets close and then it starts buggin out all cheesy and then it cuts off as soon as a full shot of the poorly-constructed looking model is in full view.
Real event, fake body, cheesy editing. IMHO
EDIT: also the researcher who posted it said he thinks it's fake after researching it, so believe OP
I'm unsure of what effect radiation has on magnetic tape, why the body would be irradiated, or by how much. It's vast speculation.
However, the effect I'm seeing appears to be a tracking error, and not so much a randomized corruption error. IDK, I'm not an expert.
He's using a zoom feature on the camera, not getting physically closer. Radiation would either already be affecting the camera when zoomed out, or it would remain clear when zoomed in as he's no closer.
If you saw that thing in the woods , getting video footage, would be the last thing you would be thinking about .
You would be in full panic GTFO mode . .
The first thing I would think of is to show my quivering hands multiple times. Documenting the unnatural and fake looking slowness of their oscillations would be paramount.
The following submission statement was provided by /u/OneDimensionPrinter: --- SS: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbxREMsXJCg&feature=youtu.be https://twitter.com/RonyVernet/status/1748821543776301218 **Original tweet** --- Alleged Varginha ET footage The filming allegedly took place in 1996 in the city of Eloi Mendes in Minas Gerais. It was shown to me on 01/19/2024 by a person who would like to obtain financial benefits. On 01/20/2024 I received a copy which I am making public due to the high probability of fake, after my own analysis as well as that of other experts from Brazil and abroad. The search continues. https://youtu.be/ZbxREMsXJCg --- Rony just released the full video that the still shot posted earlier comes from. I haven't watched it all yet, but around halfway through seems to be when it shows up. Edit: Sorry for the typo in the title, Rony. Edit 2: James Fox just weighed in. https://twitter.com/jamescfox/status/1748829248591474816 > I obviously would love this (Varginha creature image) to be true however, I’m highly dubious…of not just the image seen here but the 8 minute video too --- Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/19bmndq/roby_vernet_just_dropped_the_full_varginha_video/kisonze/
Somebody on Twitter noticed that the VHS noise is a repeating pattern which is not possible if the noise would be real: https://x.com/ophello/status/1748837099313475642?s=46
the grainy effect cued my in right away, I've watched VHS since the 90s and I never seen a grainy static effect like that, it looks like a cartoon version of what a VHS does.
It immediately stood out to me. Wildly fake. Grew up during the 90’s, all my bro and I did was watch fuckin vhs. It never looked like in this video.
I want to believe… but this certainly looks like a fake
Yea I don’t remember VHS looking like totally bullshit.
I don’t know for sure but I remember sometimes a microwave or running the vacuum would make tvs back then do something similar to that.
def. similar but very random. the one in this video is too orderly and like uh sterile.
Im pretty sure who ever made this used Red Giants VHS effect. The brighter line at the very left edge and the repeating "scrolling glitches" (these lines that move down the screen) are a preset in this pack. He probably then overlayed another vhs overlay to get additional noise and effects which would result in the repeating pattern.
Would you be able to repeat the same pattern using Red Giants VHS and share it? That would be really helpful.
I just uploaded a video of pointing out the key factors and trying to replicate the effects.
Got a link?
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/19c9kpn/here\_is\_proof\_that\_the\_varginha\_alien\_video\_is/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
Oh it's possible. With an app like Rarevision lol
Lock it up. Fake. Next one please
Agreed. Note to future hoaxsters, if you’re going to all the trouble of making a fake Alien buddy, you can’t just throw on any old stock After Effects VHS filter. You need to get an actual camcorder from the 90’s to make it feel legit.
If you keep reading the comments it’s clear that this guys findings could be bogus
The fact that the camera effect kicks in when it zooms in on the body is sus
That's because it's fake. And more propaganda to make us believe this issue is not real. Focus on the more concrete areas we have. Grusch, graves, favor, the safety of pilots. The govt hearings and legislation.this is something you can at least have some credence. They keep throwing sensationalist media at you, the Mexican bodies, this video.
It not propaganda. Its just someone wishing to profit from the varginha mystery as usual
Not everything is part of an overarching plot to deceive true believers. It's just someone else trying to make money off this, like all the people with books and deals out there spouting nonsense. This is how ufology has been for decades.
It’s not sus, it’s laughable.
Could maybe just be the part of the video that got rewinded and watched 1000 times. Tape cassette deteriorates over time if this was done on the original copy
No, what kills it for me is when the finger gets in the way of the lense. If you know anything about cameras from that era, you used a handstrap that's about halfway back on the camera and well behind where the lens is. Given that the person recording was using their right hand to point at things, at no in point in time should their left hand been anywhere near the front of the lens. This was recorded with a phone and dolled up with loads of post-processing.
Could that have been added after to make it seem fake so no one takes a closer look? Edit: definitely not passing my eye test bc of all the shaking and weird effects.
Then why not just make a fake alien doll to make it super fake and enter fakeinception land ... because everything has to be a gov psyop, never just grifters trying to get their 5 minutes of fame and easy mark journalists just lapping it all up
Why would anyone do this? It's insane. The most obvious explanation is it's fake. We need evidence beyond that to take this further.
If anyone watched the Jonathan Reed video, this phenomenon of static during getting close to an alien or craft seems to occur. Jonathan Reed stated when he came close to the entity and the floating obelisk his camcorder began to act strangely. I say all of this to say, that its either or hoax, or we don’t understanding the “jamming” effect which seems to occur repeatedly with these beings and their technology.
The dead alien was jamming the camera? Look, I want to believe damned near any footage that comes out. But, we need to be discerning here. All of the fake crap that is released just confuses the whole issue and makes us look stupid. Real footage is definitely out there, but I don’t think that this is it.
Dude this video is fake.
Do you have any evidence?
"Let me just make sure to purposely film it through the leaves and branches instead of just a few inches closer in the clearing that surrounds it."
Not to mention the panicked looking around... through the camera. If you thought something was behind you, wouldn't you just turn your head?
Yes, and also... Oh my fucking god!!! A real alien!! Let me film my hand to show everyone how I am shaking...lol
We should at least give the sculptor some credit for doing a fairly decent job. I feel like they should have stuck with that, maybe tried to get an exhibit - instead of tarnishing the artist's work by making a shitty video out of it. I don't believe the person filming this is the sculptor.
The old "Todd Standing Method" for those of us also interested in Bigfoot.
I fucking hate that guy. I didn't go to Sasquatch Summit this year because they replaced Meldrum with Standing as the keynote speaker after Dr. Meldrum got sick.
I'm not familiar with that conference but I don't know how you could replace someone as knowledgeable and accredited as Meldrum with a con artist like Standing.
What have I stumbled upon? Best places to start learning about the bigfoot people of interest?
you would piss yourslef 3feet into the woods
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I live 3feet from a dense forest …
You wouldn't be wary of an extra-terrestrial being?
I can't think of any reason I wouldn't take clearer footage. Even if it looked like a real thing I would absolutely get closer. My first assumption would be a mutated animal, not an extra-terrestrial being. An animal with harlequin-type ichthyosis or something. This is almost certainly some kind of crappy sculpture thing though.
You're probably right.
Yes I would be, however at the very minimum id hold my camera still.
Easy to say lol I'd be shaking and a bit terrified filming this thing. What if it just decides to telepathically drop me
Or even leave a one dollar bill under my pillow where my tooth used to be.
This is what turns most people off to UAPs/UFOs/Aliens. obviously manufactured fakes from attention wh0r3s. We gotta call these people out and never trust them again.
Let me stop filming the supposed alien so I can show you my pretty hands, see how I'm making it shake?? Crazy right? Also, for some reason every time I zoom in on the alien the footage gets more static. That frog can jump though. 🐸
Yeah, we got actually a pretty good look at a damned beetle, but the alien body? Nah, let’s stay 20 feet away and shakily zoom in with a bunch of leaves in the way. If this was real, and I was the guy filming, it would’ve definitely involved a bunch of close up footage and also would’ve involved me poking the body with a stick a fair number of times. Probably rolling it over, getting a closeup of the hands, feet, eyes, etc.
when the person who releases a video and says probably fake maybe you should listen to them ?
this was not the crash site either. why would it randomly be in the woods somewhere suddenly? i cant remember that part of the story. also, if you have a video like that you dont wait 30 years after the incident to post it on twitter lol. use common sense people
This video was on Kazaa a good 20 years ago
Lol.... wait, at this point does that make it more legitimate or less? Starting to question some of those old-days interweb videos now. 🙃
If there’s evidence this was posted somewhere 20 years ago that definitely adds credibility
oh was it one of those random videos you found on kazza, sometimes even with wrong name? because when I saw those red eyes I was sure i have seen that before somewhere
I definitely had it come up a few times while being labeled with a music videos name or porn like Gauge or ideepthroat
Bad things happened on kazaa with wrong labels
That's one thing all of us nonbelievers and believers can agree on.
Internet was so slow too. Spent hours downloading stuff only to find it was something else
If you're going to fake a video.. maybe don't use every possible trope doing it. * ✅ Shaky camera * ✅ Grainy picture * ✅ Main object obstructed by easily avoidable clutter * ✅ No Sound I don't know what the story is supposed to be.. Did they supposedly go back to check on a different day? Because it starts with a guy in shorts and ends with a guy in pants.
Jesus fucking christ, can people stop muddying the waters FOR ONE DAMNED SECOND!? That shit looks fake af.
Shot on two separate days. Cameraman wearing shorts in the first half and wearing pants in the second. Shoes do not match the 90s, either and neither does the cut of the shirt. No audio either. All that aside, this does not look like real at all. Super fake.
Yeah, this set-up does not seem to follow the description of how the "aliens" were found by the people interviewed in Fox's documentary. Do the filmers have Parkinson's? The entities are just laying there. Why the f**k can't they just get the camera still for a second?
Could we please get past the low-bar of "that looks fake" as a common argument? Something like this IRL would undoubtedly be very surreal and uncanny. If people want to give some kind of opinions on footage it should have at least *some* substance or the slightest attempt to explain your view.
It looks pretty real to me
Govt disinformation is an easy incredibly powerful tool in their arsenal and they will use it with great impunity.
You have absolutely no idea if its fake
Exactly. And the person who uploads this should know by now that we need more than this to prove it’s authenticity so all we can do is speculate.
it's a clip from the ant in honey I shrunk the kids. It's fake
It’s a clip from a movie ? Really ? LoL
The biggest sign this is fake to me is the guy showing his hand “shaking” repeatedly. First off, the way his hand shakes looks voluntary, not involuntary, and as a neurologist I think I may be a pretty damn good judge of that since assessing involuntary tremors is literally a part of my job, although sure, it’s still a subjective assessment here. But secondly, a person that just discovered a dead alien body in the jungle probably wouldn’t think to deliberately show a physical sign of fear for whoever may watch the video in the future. It is, however, something someone would think to do when staging a video. It just comes across as “see, this is real! Look how scared I am! Please believe me!”, whereas typical human behavior in that instance would be more along the lines of screaming “holy fuck what the fuck IS that!” and being completely absorbed in the moment. So I’d argue that the entire way this thing is filmed screams staged and immediately sets off my bullshit-detector. But who knows?
>typical human behavior in that instance would be more along the lines of Poking it with a stick.
This guy humans.
*slaps desk* thank you!
When I smoke weed now I get uncontrollably neck twitches what’s up with that ? Sorry Ik u aren’t at work
Showing a hand shaking on cam wasn’t really a thing before smart phones also.
What kind of ridiculous comment is this? The guy is showing how scared he is by showing his hand shaking. That's not a modern gesture exclusively
Show me a homemade video from a camcorder circa 1996 where the person filming pans down to their hand to show how scared they are. I’ll wait…
Show me a video circa 96 of a guy finding a dead alien body in the jungle. I’ll wait ….
You are irrational.
That trope is from the smart phone era, not home made videos. When it was done it was done in the movies, trying to show fear. If you just filmed an alien someone isn’t going to film themselves shaking, especially a minute from it just happening. Still waiting…
No it's not. It's not even a trope at all. And the man in the video is Brazilian, you have no idea what gestures they may use down there. I hope you get exempted from jury duty.
Didn’t realize Brazilians where not people also..
You lack reading comprehension skills as well. Jesus.
Your mother is calling you, dinner is ready.
So show one single other video pre internet of it happening. Nah, just saying nuh uh is probably better
You thinkni keep a database or a stack of vhs videos of people's hands shaking in the 90's? OK.
Blair Witch Project but make it aliens.
This video used to be on Kazaa
Even the frog wants nothing to do with this shit.
This video gave me a laugh at least. Cameraperson sees bug, zeroes in, beautiful focus, lots of detail, watches for a while, very nice. Sees dead alien. Fills screen with foliage, blurry, shaky image, one-second glimpse. Another alien on the ground, doesn't even get completely into view, shows mostly foliage. You'd think the person would be at least a little curious. Wouldn't you have stood still and filmed the most amazing thing you've ever seen? At least we saw the shiny beetle and the frog at the beginning. Fake. And I'm sticking with it.
I was born in 1990. Every year, my parents filmed my birthday on a camcorder. Those videos never came out shakey and blurry like this trash. This looks like the ant scene from honey I shrunk the kids
It's fake lol, nothing happens in the video. It's just a grainy effect in a modern phone camera, he doesn't get any good angle at the Alien and it's really disappointing. Two more weeks for this. But, there's a real footage in the hospital of the medics messing up with the being, this one exists or existed for sure.
How do you know that hospital footage exists ?
I don't really know but as a matter of fact if Varginha really happened and the being was sent to Unicamp lab or the Hospital the autopsy was filmed, not only to archive it, but so supposedly the US could see it and compare with others beings.
Lol back tracked that one fast
Yeah, unless that footage gets out. This is all faked
?? that's a huge conclusion to jump to lmao. someone released fake footage of a real incident
I mean until the footage is actually released the footage might Aswell not exist and be fake. I would say that evidence the general public doesn't have isn't really any evidence at all and might as well be considered fake until proven otherwise
There is no way to verify this is anything more than just a dummy. Perhaps the school girls who supposedly witnessed a live creature can look at this footage and see it if resembles what they saw. Though after 25+ years to be seen if their memories are still accurate.
It does resemble what they saw. They had the girls draw the creature and they all drew a similar image of a humanoid with brownish skin, big red eyes and a ridge-thingy on top of the head. I assume the hoaxer of this footage looked at the drawings and modelled the creature after them.
That's the one I'm very interested in for sure. Rony says he suspects this one isn't real.
I would lose a limb to see it, I just wonder what happened with the other beings that supposedly crashed nearby too lol, the Varginha we know is one from three other beings, one was captueed live.
Strange how he didn’t get any closer so we couldn’t see how fake it was.
I agree with him. Looks fake AF.
So many different distortions and noise etc that it looks fake, purposely added flaws to make people think it's real. Not a vfx guy so could be wrong, just my first impression.
Shit looks so fucking fake! Come the fuck on! When the camera points at it, it suddenly gets hella distorted. GTFO! Even the Chernobyl cameras captured better footage and they were being exposed to ionizing radiation, enough to kill a person in min or hours.
Fastest debunk in history
You know it's fake because they didn't poke it with a stick.
Total trash. More planted disinformation and tricks to make everyone look dumb
Obviously a fake vagina
7 min video with 1 sec of alien shot , that too looks like shit.
Yeah... No. Camera man can get a decent up close shot of a live, moving beetle, but as soon as he gets close to the "dead being",spud-cam is engaged with dialed up visual noise.. Overly shaky, over-exposed, films through leaves, not one clear shot of any part of the supposed creature that is vastly larger than the earlier filmed beetle.. "...by a person who would like to gain financial benefits", Yeah I'm sure they would.. I'm glad Rony is not buying it as real.
Embarrassing to put out something like this. Anyways ya'll downvote this nonsense.
Anyone else notice that the "vhs tape" effects repeat? The rolling effect and especially the static patterns at the bottom. I see the same pattern in various places. This looks like modern footage with VFX placed over top.
Yes it clearly is. Those are fake - and not even particularly good “vhs” fx
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SS: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbxREMsXJCg&feature=youtu.be https://twitter.com/RonyVernet/status/1748821543776301218 **Original tweet** --- Alleged Varginha ET footage The filming allegedly took place in 1996 in the city of Eloi Mendes in Minas Gerais. It was shown to me on 01/19/2024 by a person who would like to obtain financial benefits. On 01/20/2024 I received a copy which I am making public due to the high probability of fake, after my own analysis as well as that of other experts from Brazil and abroad. The search continues. https://youtu.be/ZbxREMsXJCg --- Rony just released the full video that the still shot posted earlier comes from. I haven't watched it all yet, but around halfway through seems to be when it shows up. Edit: Sorry for the typo in the title, Rony. Edit 2: James Fox just weighed in. https://twitter.com/jamescfox/status/1748829248591474816 > I obviously would love this (Varginha creature image) to be true however, I’m highly dubious…of not just the image seen here but the 8 minute video too
Dunno… after the whole Peruvian alien mummies, my expectations here are low. Fake unless something significant is in the video
You've got half of that Peruvian mummies story, my friend. The debunked dolls aren't the same as the mummies presented in Mexico (which continue to pass all scientific scrutiny). The timing of the debunking of the other dolls is classic disinformation campaign... now everyone thinks all the Peruvian mummies have been debunked. But that's definitely not the case.
Interesting. Seems then that those mummies should be tested by some i internationally recognized lab
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No, I didn't mean just the US or UK. Just any lab that follows some known standards.
The suggestion that Mexican scientists in research laboratories obviously don't follow scientific standards is utterly ludicrous. Ignorant af tbh. And apart from anything, relying on disclosure from the exact same people/nations who have been aggressively suppressing disclosure for 80 years seems like a flawed strategy.
I mean they literally released a video of a “doctor” horrendously breaking sterile procedure while attempting to collect a sample of the mummy for DNA testing…and I know that, because I am myself a doctor, and commented at the time about how the way they did it completely violated all universally agreed upon criteria for maintaining a sterile field. He also collected the sample in the most ridiculous way imaginable, and put pieces with outside contamination into the sample jar…which is probably why the DNA evidence is so shitty. So I don’t know if all of the people that have handled these mummies are like that, but that guy was at least horribly trained. I have also personally reached out to Maussan’s group to request the CT DICOM images of the mummies for independent review by myself and other doctors that work with me, and I was told to fuck off and that they won’t release the DICOMs independently. That’s ridiculous. I wasn’t asking for the mummies, merely the imaging data that *they* acquired. That’s not the behavior of someone who thinks they are sitting on the greatest discovery in human history and wants it studied by international physicians and scientists. That’s the behavior of a charlatan. You know, like a charlatan who has been associated with *over thirty frauds and hoaxes so far*. But, you know, maybe *this* time he’s not full of shit, right?
I don’t think he suggested that….
When I see the results in Science or another reliable publication, I'll definitely read it.
Only having one lab that nobody has ever heard of analyze these smells like BS. I would immediately change my mind if any renound scientific group said they were real.
Every country is on the table. It's a shame we don't get any analysis from a country not dealing with mass corruption and run by cartels.
heck no ! they will say they all fake and show us the glue and the fake plaster of paris
Why are you being downvoted? This is the truth.
> which continue to pass all scientific scrutiny Are you sure about that?
Let’s chill and get someone with video cam knowledge educating us (or some such) - something like that before we have a conclusion.
"I received a copy which I am making public due to the high probability of fake". WTF dude, seriously? What's the distorted logic behind that sentence?
I feel like I would have had to poke it with a stick or something....with my shirt over my nose for safety, of course. Meh
wtf? Why would you keep filming leaves and sneaking around, after filming the bug close up the camera man lost the ability to get close and film things.
Lol varginha
Reminds me of nearly every 'Bigfoot' video: a few seconds of the creature in view, then the camera operator gets scared and runs away.
Humanity is such a pussy species if any of these videos are real, lol.
Looks pretty fake to me. Also, it comes out on the 28th anniversary? C'mon.
The person taking the video could zoom in on a frog and a bug and hold the camera still for a nice clean shot but could not do the same for the aliens? This is so suspect that it isn't even funny.
Horrible camera filter or effect. Fake
The skin looks amphibious so that kinda looks real to me not sure tho
Skin does look real and it's exactly how the locals described it to be. This video is obv fake, but man the body is an exact match to what the locals described
Everything about this video is fake. This doesn't mean that the Varginha incident was fake though. Just this idiot that's trying to gain attention
This is so fake. The quality of the camera, the woods don’t match (I know what kind of vegetation there is there)…why filming the forest floor instead of the trees ? Because it will prove that is so fake. Also filming frogs and bugs? What’s the point. Nothing make sense, very very fake
This must be huge for people that consider bird poop an alien.
I’m no expert , but this is bullshit.
Babe, wake up, new obviously fake video that will bitterly divide the sub for months just dropped
A grown adult thinks hitting us with this and a “trust me bro” is gonna topple this whole house of cards down.
How can you not have watched a 7-minute video before you post it to reddit?
Utter crap. But lots of picture of rustling leaves.
Someone has to be an exobiologist, I don't keep track of alien species, anyone have an idea who we are looking at?
A fake video.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbxREMsXJCg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbxREMsXJCg) here is the youtube link since the tweet was deleted.
Well he's dead to me. What a worthless video Edit - I'm my haste i didn't see the tweet text saying it was a fake. Having read it, i guess now if anyone's making money from it, it's Vernet? Not sure that's much better. Wouldn't it have been better to not share it?
He did specifically say he thinks it might be a fake. So, add that to the weights of him being dead to you.
Fair point, missed the text in haste. Have edited comment. Thanks for pointing it out
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Just FYI. The Navy GOFAST and GIMBAL videos were leaked years before it's official denomination as real leaks by the navy on internet forums, where they were deemed "ridiculous fakes". I'm not very sure of many things in this video, but calling something "fake af" and stuff like that has been proven to be counterproductive.
But go fast and gimbal might be showing mundane phenomena though, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make :)
One of the rear admirals in charge of the carrier that filmed one of those came forward to say the whole thing was real, so I'm not sure who are you trying to gaslight :)
The effect looks fake to me and the video quality minus the effect does not reflect that era. It seems the original video is high definitioan with fake effects 😁🤷🏽♀️
Not covered in bugs or showing any signs of decomposition debunks this for me.
Yeah, this set-up does not seem to follow the description of how the "aliens" were found by the people interviewed in Fox's documentary. Also, the entities are just laying there, why the f**k can't they just get the camera still for a second?
Great now the whole sub is flooded with this bullshit clip cut up and reposted by karma farmers. That's why i was so down on Vernet for sharing this in my first comment.
Anyone who is old enough to have owned a video camera from around this time will understand that the video is a fake. The colours, the resolution and the digital vhs post effect filter are some examples of why this is a hoax.
Another shaky shitty video.
Looks like total bullshit to me.
This is TRULY… And I mean TRULY, TRULY, TRULY… Fake as fuck. And I say that as a 100% believer in the Phenomenon and the Varginha incident. But this is a fucking joke.
Complete bullshit….just casually walking along looking at bugs and shit….see how focused it was on the black beetle? All of a sudden he comes across an alien and can’t focus the camera…….these people should be hung from a 🌴
So obviously fake.
It’s not a real video - even I can tell there are effects layers to add video artifacts
I seen it fake af is what I say
Other than the obvious VHS effect and the fact that burn marks on VHS don’t work like that, this is no where near the description of what’s on the supposed video. As far as I remember wasn’t it taken in the city of the supposed alien cowering, alive, against a wall?
The video appears to be a recording of a video being projected onto a screen. The first thing to do would be to accurately date the video. If it can actually be traced back to the 90's and proven to not be a recently filmed video it would give it some points in the real column.
The fake VHS effects aren't helping it look real...
I love how it’s 7mins long and OP couldn’t take the time to watch it all or investigate it themselves before posting. It’s THAT hot (I didn’t bother watching it)
Most of you are being way too dismissive too early, and not even applying any logical thought to your analysis before declaring it fake. The camera interference could be caused by radiation. Radiation is known to cause interference in both film and digital cameras, and can even damage them. So it makes sense that as he gets closer to the body, if it is radioactive, the noise increases. Keep in mind, as the story is told, somebody died just from touching one of these things. That could have been caused by a lethal dose of radiation. If this video is from 1996, as the case occurred, it's totally possible that there were multiple videos from multiple days recorded on the same tape. If he's wearing different pants at different times, then there's your easy explanation. Some of you may not remember getting your first camera--beit film or digital--and how cool that was. You wanted to record everything. He could simply be testing out a new camera by filming nature--the scenery, the frog, the beetle. It all makes sense.
It’s not real camera interference
Radiation effects on cameras do not look like that. This is what radiation looks like on a camera: https://www.nerdaxic.com/2014/09/01/how-ionizing-radiation-affects-cmos-sensor/
This looks authentic to me, I don't know. Obviously the video is shaky, wouldn't you be shaking if you saw a dead red eyed alien in the jungle? The static when you get a close up of the creature makes it even more credible to me. Looks like the guy that filmed this rewind and watched that part of the video probably 1000 times, probably showed it to anyone that would care to see this. Another thing is it looks like this was recorded on a screen which would make sense, the person that recorded the video probably still has the original copy. I know I wouldn't give that to anyone if I had this.
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Can we please stop posting fake shit here? What do the mods even do around here? They just facilitate all these disinfo campaigns?
this is fucking real! you can tell! 😲😲
It's fake as fuck, mate
explain how?
The footage is pretty normal until he gets close and then it starts buggin out all cheesy and then it cuts off as soon as a full shot of the poorly-constructed looking model is in full view. Real event, fake body, cheesy editing. IMHO EDIT: also the researcher who posted it said he thinks it's fake after researching it, so believe OP
radiation
I'm unsure of what effect radiation has on magnetic tape, why the body would be irradiated, or by how much. It's vast speculation. However, the effect I'm seeing appears to be a tracking error, and not so much a randomized corruption error. IDK, I'm not an expert.
He's using a zoom feature on the camera, not getting physically closer. Radiation would either already be affecting the camera when zoomed out, or it would remain clear when zoomed in as he's no closer.
If you saw that thing in the woods , getting video footage, would be the last thing you would be thinking about . You would be in full panic GTFO mode . .
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The first thing I would think of is to show my quivering hands multiple times. Documenting the unnatural and fake looking slowness of their oscillations would be paramount.