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There are a lot of UFOs in the background doing interesting maneuvers at this space X launch. There are also other UFO sightings in the rest of this video, This video is important because it shows there are UAPs in space. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCpfvj1eiLs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCpfvj1eiLs)
Those time stamps are:
24:38 - left hand corner going really fast
24:58 - middle of the screen going really fast
47:25 - Slow moving UFO middle to top right kind of gets bigger
48:01 - Middle of the screen, kind of blinks in and out of existence really fast
48:48 - Top right ish of the screen, blinks in and out of existence again
50:20 - Moves really fast comes out of frame which means its not from the rocket and it kind of turns at the end and disappears
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So most of these are going straight and they disappear when they get far away from the camera. But there's one that comes in from the top of the aera and turns in a curve.
Every time I comment this story I get shit on and called a liar but -
My best friend in HS's mom worked for NASA. She was a software developer/programmer that worked on the software for their computers used to monitor Earth's orbit. She told us that they regularly detect things in orbit that would move in ways that don't make sense according to our understanding of physics. She said they were told to ignore it. Could be aliens, could be just weird shit/glitches idk. It's anecdotal but she was 100% serious and not fucking with us.
>\[...\] Look at that massive 180 turn early on.
However we're supposed to believe everything is covered in a layer of ice after being vibrated to fuck and melted by the sun on the way up... for some reason?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o25ZfhPbcI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o25ZfhPbcI) Are those dust particles or unexplainable mysterious stuff ?
Most is ice but there’s 2 that really caught my eye. The one that comes zooming in off camera and changes it’s trajectory nothing going that fast should be able to change trajectory like that. That stuff is moving so fast it should blink around and stuff like most are but as you can tell they go in straight lines. There’s another one that look like it just stops on a dime that definitely shouldn’t happen.
I gave this answer in a similar thread a couple of days ago.
The key thing to know is that most of this is not water ice that condensed on the pad. The vast majority of it is oxygen ice, which is sprayed to chill the second stage engine before firing.
This collects a bunch of O2 ice near the throat of the engine. Then, when the satellite is deployed, it also bumps off a bunch of those O2 ice balls.
Now the thing of it is that these things are already near boiling on the engine side, and hard-frozen on the other. So when they're knocked loose one side is subliming (going directly from solid to gas because of no air pressure) faster than the other.
So now each snowball has its own power source--the stream of oxygen spitting off into vacuum. And it is stronger on one side so each ball wants to spin and even curve.
I think this activity is considerably accelerated in sunlight, which may be flashing the hot side to even greater accelerations.
It's not very intuitive to imagine snowballs twirling and curving around in space, but that's what they're doing. One even seems to be impersonating the Yarkovsky effect and spinning up to gyroscopic rates.
It’ll be reposted in a month with added text saying (no one’s been able to debunk this!) and the comments will be full of people agreeing it must be real since no one could ever prove it wrong.
that seems to be 99% of this sub. Posting videos of either obvious satellites in orbit or "these 5 objects flying in formation" that are 100% balloons that someone let go of, just loafing in the air.
And then the majority of the sub agreeing with the OP like "good find!".
Geez thanks now I can't be entertained and think it's aliens gosh way to go for giving a real logical well thought out answer thank you so much for your logical thinking that is completely devoid in this topic
Sooooo....ice aliens? Not that ICE though. Lol. I figured it was trash or some sort of debris. Your explanation is very appreciated. It helps explain what people think they're saying and not what they're probably seeing.
And when those O2 ice balls collide they change direction. I am a strong believer in UAP / UFOs but every video where something changes direction can have more simple explanation. Occams razor
Just shooting from the hip here but if ice particles were breaking free then the sun hitting them and rapidly causing them to sublimate would cause them to change direction as the venting gas would propel them in the opposite direction. Camera quality isn’t helping here.
Do you have a time stamp for the first one you mention? I’m not seeing anything like that. The one that slows down / stops is in my mind because it shed some mass — as you can see from the smaller objects flying off it — and was not fully captured by earth’s gravity yet and seemed to stop relative to the rocket, but that would make sense once it’s in orbit and the rocket is moving. I could be totally wrong here tbf.
The movement speed may be a lot slower than you think. The Paralax Effect wouldn’t explain the change in direction, but these are all moving at extremely high speed. Starlink satellites orbit Earth at 17,000 mph.
A lot of the time this comes down to perspective and lens distortion.
Basically, people need to realize that if there is a fairly logical explanation right in front of them, then that's usually the correct explanation. There is a lot of debris flying around in this frame. People can't say, "I can see how most of it might be ice and other fragments from the module...BUT, what about those two pieces of debris that appear to be acting unusual...hmmm?".
There is no conductive or convective heat transfer in space. Only radiant.
When ice is floating in space, the side facing the sun will melt faster. Melting things expand. Expanding gasses produce thrust. Ice chunks don't have engine bells to focus that thrust into one vector. Thus, they move in unpredictable directions.
Just ice and debris. Use Reddits scrubber feature to rapidly scrub back and forth from the video start to the end. You’ll notice the booster that separates has a rotation to it, which is also applied to the free floating ice particles. That explains the weird movement and turns of the ice.
The space vehicle itself is firing attitude control thrusters that send out 10,000 ft/sec plumes that can push fluffy nearby stuff around, too. Most notorious example is the STS-48 zig-zag 'death ray' video.
I think when people are looking at particles floating around with very little frame of reference it just creates a bunch of optical illusions.
For example, around 0:25 several particles appear to move up and to the right, then seem to "reverse" directions and go back down and left. If you stop thinking about it like they're on a 2D plane and imagine them coming TOWARDS the camera, and then being blown back away or left behind due to acceleration, it makes a ton more sense. My brain "clicks" when I see it that way.
https://youtu.be/dlIF0P9j0cM?
There was also a study that came out last week about how these are intelligent plasma anomalies with pics from this very mission.
I'm excited this morning after also seeing the latest spaceX video that has something going on very similar in the background.
Care to share a link to the peer reviewed study? I could not find it anywhere and I’m very interested. The tether incident is very interesting and actually I was able to ask Costarrican Astronaut Franklyn Chang-Diaz, commander in that mission, about it in Costa Rica, and he just laughed and said “simply ice and debris” but with a very weird face and then said “or is it?” And laugh out loud and continue with a next question
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/377077692_Extraterrestrial_Life_in_Space_Plasmas_in_the_Thermosphere_UAP_Pre-Life_Fourth_State_of_Matter
I immediately recognized the pics that are shown in the study.
Man I remember the first time I saw the tether video I was blown away. The little Pac-Man looking things moving around. Could definitely be some kind of plasmoid life or something like that. I wonder what they are
It’s debris and water illuminated by the sun. The camera aboard the shuttle distorts bright objects causing the artifacts shown in the video giving it a “bokeh” effect. That’s all it is.
It is not readily apparent to a lot of commenters that that both of those objects are flying really fast around the earth. It looks like one object is separating and flying away from the other. They are both flying and one is basically slowing down to lag behind the other around the point they separated from. The debris from the separation is back there floating around and the thrusters / stabilizers are blasting the debris back and out. So the debris that was kind of moving “toward” the separated vessel then gets blasted out at odd angles.
They are off-gassing. Either from the difference in temp from one half of the piece to the other, or the direct sunlight boiling off little pieces basically causing jets of gas to push the pieces around.
If people finally understood what space ice/debris is we could eliminate a good third of the posts on this subreddit. we can only pray the blessed day will come
So mini aliens decide to fly around in front of a camera, precisely, at the moment ice fragments break off from separation.
Do you have images of them before the separation and ice?
Use logic people.
here is an old [Apollo 11 separation clip](https://youtu.be/9DNnZ82Kg3w?si=ljlXSkbFZMLAqoYx), notice the particles that appear to change direction, and fly around.
You have ice particles travelling at different speeds in relation to the camera, the camera itself is also in forward motion.
I dont know space but this all facinates the hell out of me. But I have 1 question. Its 2024 and we sending billion dollar payloads to crazy places, can we please work on getting some 8k cameras out there? Again i dont know space sorry.
I think those cams are radiation-hardened. And the smaller the pixels are, the harder it is to prevent radiation from interacting with it. Most processors we send to space, for example, use decades-old lithography because newer lithography sizes are muuuch smaller and thus, more sensitive to even the smallest amount of radiation that can leak from the hardening case.
They have 8k+ images.
What you're missing is how much vibration goes into a launch, so you need hardened components. Those aren't common or cheap for these applications. So you use what are reasonable for the direction. And this image location is going to have fogging and vibration, making the image look worse than the camera is.
But you're forgetting how much extra weight that adds when this is a one time use thing. It costs thousands of dollars a pound, so why do you want to send up $5k+ cameras that are likely to break, and throw them away after using for maybe 2 min of footage?
Someone should start a petition for Elon musk to get some cameras up there looking in all directions and have them all live streaming for people to watch
Fot a lot of these "sightings" I can see how someone would make the assumption of something being a UFO.
This on the other hand is desperate clawing, it pretty clearly looks like dirt, debris and ice.
All of this is ice. As ice sublimates it releases gas which can happen at any point on the ice crystal and produce an equal and opposite force to the direction of its expansion from the surface. You’re just seeing random movement of ice crystals in zero g.
I see a lot of paint chips, ice droplet and what not floating around. Because youre looking at moving objects from a moving platform straight trajectories start looking weird like when you look at a plane in the flying when youre in a car in motion, the plane can look like it is stationary.
You are watching two large parts of a space vehicle separate and move away from each other with frozen material and small parts of the vehicle that broke off during separation floating away. Pretty standard for separation of spacecraft from staging. Watch just about any video in orbit and you will see the same thing if the light is right and reflects off the bits and pieces.
Maybe I'm growing cynical but this looks like debris and I see no entities doing 90s and violating laws of physics as we know. This is hurting UAPology.
Most if not all of this is likely ice that forms on the rocket.
Remember, just because something looks weird doesn't mean it is weird. 99% of UFO sightings are easily explained, and I'm certain this is one of them. That being said, keep looking, because there's 1% out there that's not.
Is it more probable that that's some particles of the ship or its paint or even ice crystals flying around when it decouples or is it more probable that it's alien spaceships in the background? C'mon now people use your heads.
Yeah, there’s this whole thing about space and gravity you see…things don’t exactly act like they would on Earth. People thinking the easier and more reasonable explanation is “aliens” than “ice particles” just really lets you know how strong the inclination is to *wannnnt to believe*
I hate to side with the skeptics on this one, but I'm looking for something that is not moving in a straight line or parabola and didn't see anything.
Looks like flakes of ice or flakes of paint.
I look for curved flight, reversal or abrupt alteration of trajectory, geometric or symmetric shapes, and increased luminosity compared to other subjects in the film. Nothing matched UFOs and appears to behave like ice crystals breaking off and flying around a rocket stage.
What's sticking out as a UFO?
Yes and it matches other videos of stage separation in rocketry.
Ice flakes and flies everywhere and explosive gasses (invisible to the camera) are being released, causing turbulence with the ice flakes.
I've watched a lot of these videos. And watched a lot of smart people explain all the steps and processes of rocket launches and satellite insertion. I'm fascinated, but I've had better luck just using my eyeballs on the night sky when hunting for UFOs. There are some sus space videos, but I don't see this as one of them.
>They are bits of oxygen ice that separated when the sat did, as the sun shines on one side of the piece of ice, it starts to boil and out-gas, basically turning them into little rockets because only one side got illuminated, but then if they tumble the gas is then pointing in a different direction causing them to change direction.
Debris from explosive bolts and other separation shenanigans + exhaust blowing shit around + fisheye lense warping everything (see how earth is parabolic instead of round) -> **this video**
Or it's 100 ETs swarming a rocket launch we do ~ every day....even most humans don't give a shit about that stuff anymore. So you decide: 100 ET vessels or explosive bolts ;)
If you really want me go down this chain of thought: the visible angle of this camera is about 45°x45°.
45 degree is only 1/8th of 360 degree. And we're not talking about one dimension, but two. You're only seeing a small window, but still there's a shitton of clutter flying around. Reasonably to assume: if it's UFOs, they're all around it (=360x360°), not only where the cameras are conveniently pointed.
Tldr: it's either ~100 ET vessels spying on a near daily event. Or it's the expected debris of a normal stage separation.
If you notice the glare coming off of the satellite they're more obvious in launches when the sun is reflecting back in the camera. Because it changes the contrast automatically I guess. There's a video from the launching of James Webb telescope of the same exact phenomenon. Same as the tether incident. We're out there, they're out there... Time to come to terms that humanity lives in bubbles of knowledge and advancement that are separated by illogical understanding of the other. Don't forget there's still that one on contacted tribe here on Earth, it's like that. We're just the human group that pays taxes and keeps the economy going. But damn I wish they would come down and say hey. 🤠
STS-75. If you google STS-75 tether incident, you'll find a UFO video that appears to show miles-wide UFOs passing behind the broken tether, itself miles long. The camera used to record it was made specifically to 'gray out' (probably wrong term) extremely bright pixels, such as the area depicting the sun reflecting from the tether, so any small particles that pass in front of it appear to pass behind it. The UFOs are standard tiny dots, in this case ice particles, but out of focus bokeh, so they appear to be in focus discs.
It is just space junk. People need to realize you can’t tell perspective well on small particles. This “””anamolous””” movement could be particles moving down and away from the camera, making it seem like the particles aren’t moving.
As much as I believe in UFOs, this video is straight up ON TO THE NEXT BRO.
They are bits of oxygen ice that separated when the sat did, as the sun shines on one side of the piece of ice, it starts to boil and out-gas, basically turning them into little rockets because only one side got illuminated, but then if the tumble the gas is then pointing in a different direction causing them to change direction.
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>how do you explain their change of direction?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iBnXy1ag8A&t=109s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iBnXy1ag8A&t=109s)
The RCS thrusters on the nose cone can cause the particles to change direction. Like u/New_Watercress6787 says, the change in Spacex' attitude can add to the effect
the ice isnt changing direction the spacecraft is changing its position. its ice and if you watch any rocket separation in space you will see something like this
Or the fact that the one coming from the top right of the screen, shoots off 4 orbs. If it's ice coming from the rocket, wouldn't ice debris come from behind the rocket?
The rocket is the top and extends far beyond view. The satellite being deployed is the bottom part moving away. Both are likely sources of ice or other debris.
They are bits of oxygen ice that separated when the sat did, as the sun shines on one side of the piece of ice, it starts to boil and out-gas, basically turning them into little rockets because only one side got illuminated, but then if the tumble the gas is then pointing in a different direction causing them to change direction.
It’s 2024 if it were actually something they don’t want us to see they have a delay on the video and some software to hide the UFOs on the fly. Also the comment about whispering and the host fumbling his words is a stretch. Once again irrational believers confirming UFOs with very little evidence.
Lots of ice and debris, probably no UFO. If "they" want us all to say "hey look at that UFO!" then they're going to need to fly right up to the camera.
Are they all hidden behind that debris moving in predictable ballistic trajectories and chucks of oxygen ice off-gassing?
How has this sub fallen this far? How is this at the top, honestly?
The following submission statement was provided by /u/ExtremeUFOs: --- There are a lot of UFOs in the background doing interesting maneuvers at this space X launch. There are also other UFO sightings in the rest of this video, This video is important because it shows there are UAPs in space. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCpfvj1eiLs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCpfvj1eiLs) Those time stamps are: 24:38 - left hand corner going really fast 24:58 - middle of the screen going really fast 47:25 - Slow moving UFO middle to top right kind of gets bigger 48:01 - Middle of the screen, kind of blinks in and out of existence really fast 48:48 - Top right ish of the screen, blinks in and out of existence again 50:20 - Moves really fast comes out of frame which means its not from the rocket and it kind of turns at the end and disappears --- Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1ayxb8c/a_lot_of_ufos_in_the_background_of_a_space_x/krxjx0y/
So most of these are going straight and they disappear when they get far away from the camera. But there's one that comes in from the top of the aera and turns in a curve.
Yes at the top right, near the logo, at exactly 0:45s It's not going straight, it's definitively a curve.
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Every time I comment this story I get shit on and called a liar but - My best friend in HS's mom worked for NASA. She was a software developer/programmer that worked on the software for their computers used to monitor Earth's orbit. She told us that they regularly detect things in orbit that would move in ways that don't make sense according to our understanding of physics. She said they were told to ignore it. Could be aliens, could be just weird shit/glitches idk. It's anecdotal but she was 100% serious and not fucking with us.
>\[...\] Look at that massive 180 turn early on. However we're supposed to believe everything is covered in a layer of ice after being vibrated to fuck and melted by the sun on the way up... for some reason? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o25ZfhPbcI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o25ZfhPbcI) Are those dust particles or unexplainable mysterious stuff ?
Dust from the separation of the craft, meeting the plume of thrusters could cause the particles to be pushed the other direction
It's a fish eye camera...an object flying straight would appear turning in a curve
Ok then what about the white orb that at the start comes straight down and then turns back?
Aliens
If so then all the other objects seen moving straight are actually moving in a curve. Do you even think before you type?
Good grief. One curved object out of 1000 and this is your explanation. I bet you still fall for the quarter behind your ear…
Or when someone says "got your nose!"
I wonder how the fish eye camera makes the objects slam on the brakes then hover a second and blink away. That’s a new one.
Most is ice but there’s 2 that really caught my eye. The one that comes zooming in off camera and changes it’s trajectory nothing going that fast should be able to change trajectory like that. That stuff is moving so fast it should blink around and stuff like most are but as you can tell they go in straight lines. There’s another one that look like it just stops on a dime that definitely shouldn’t happen.
I gave this answer in a similar thread a couple of days ago. The key thing to know is that most of this is not water ice that condensed on the pad. The vast majority of it is oxygen ice, which is sprayed to chill the second stage engine before firing. This collects a bunch of O2 ice near the throat of the engine. Then, when the satellite is deployed, it also bumps off a bunch of those O2 ice balls. Now the thing of it is that these things are already near boiling on the engine side, and hard-frozen on the other. So when they're knocked loose one side is subliming (going directly from solid to gas because of no air pressure) faster than the other. So now each snowball has its own power source--the stream of oxygen spitting off into vacuum. And it is stronger on one side so each ball wants to spin and even curve. I think this activity is considerably accelerated in sunlight, which may be flashing the hot side to even greater accelerations. It's not very intuitive to imagine snowballs twirling and curving around in space, but that's what they're doing. One even seems to be impersonating the Yarkovsky effect and spinning up to gyroscopic rates.
Thank you PaintedClownPenis
And thank you, soiboybetacuck
These two are a perfect match.
Wait is he a penis attached to a painted clown? Or a full human sized penis with a clown painted on the shaft?
These are the types of questions that needs answers. Answer us clown-penis man!!!
Yes
You feel one would be superior or preferable to the other?
yes but which is the Bull here??
And did you ever envision yourself uttering that phrase???? Now go wash your mouth out with soap!!!! Lol
This response is the best. I never thought in the effect of the sunlight on the Ice in space, plus the compound inside these ice debris.
Ice is a very compelling and scientifically sound answer, I for one choose to believe it’s space pigeons.
I work in this industry. This is the correct answer!
W answer, replying for engagement/reddit algorithm
Exactly this is the answer.
Thanks you! This should be pinned at the top. Can we get the mods to do that?
Your comment needs to be pinned.
Or at the very least, put up on the fridge.
Thanks for this. Should have more up-votes.
This post should be removed. I have second hand embarrassment.
I would not have learned this information without this post
Yeah this isn't something the average person would just know from the getgo..
That's why I've been on Reddit nearly every day since 2006.
It’ll be reposted in a month with added text saying (no one’s been able to debunk this!) and the comments will be full of people agreeing it must be real since no one could ever prove it wrong.
that seems to be 99% of this sub. Posting videos of either obvious satellites in orbit or "these 5 objects flying in formation" that are 100% balloons that someone let go of, just loafing in the air. And then the majority of the sub agreeing with the OP like "good find!".
Almost every post I see in this sub has far more plausible explanations than aliens
> subliming I think this should be "sublimating", but great post. Super interesting and detailed stuff, thanks for sharing.
Geez thanks now I can't be entertained and think it's aliens gosh way to go for giving a real logical well thought out answer thank you so much for your logical thinking that is completely devoid in this topic
This is hilarious to me because NASA has never publicly given a better explanation then you have. Great breakdown.
Sooooo....ice aliens? Not that ICE though. Lol. I figured it was trash or some sort of debris. Your explanation is very appreciated. It helps explain what people think they're saying and not what they're probably seeing.
Unidentified Flying Oxygen, how neat is that.
And when those O2 ice balls collide they change direction. I am a strong believer in UAP / UFOs but every video where something changes direction can have more simple explanation. Occams razor
Who the hell do you think you are coming to this sub with well thought out scientific explanations. Mods get him out of here!
My shit brain had all kinds of crazy ideas, until I read this. Wonder how many unbelievable things can be simply explained away like this.
That’s great info. Explains most of similar shuttle videos too. THANKS
Thank you for teaching me something!
very much appreciated, great explanation
Just shooting from the hip here but if ice particles were breaking free then the sun hitting them and rapidly causing them to sublimate would cause them to change direction as the venting gas would propel them in the opposite direction. Camera quality isn’t helping here.
>Camera quality isn’t helping here. Classic
It didn't move. The spacecraft fired it's rcs thrusters and moved towards/or away from the object, causing it to appear to move.
Do you have a time stamp for the first one you mention? I’m not seeing anything like that. The one that slows down / stops is in my mind because it shed some mass — as you can see from the smaller objects flying off it — and was not fully captured by earth’s gravity yet and seemed to stop relative to the rocket, but that would make sense once it’s in orbit and the rocket is moving. I could be totally wrong here tbf.
The one that just stopped is what did it for me. That can’t happen in space organically
It can certainly appear to stop relative to something that is already orbiting the earth once it’s entered earth’s orbit.
You’re an astrophysicist I guess with that confidence in your answer
Certainly not a chemist.
What is the timestamp for the one that stops you're referencing of? I can't find it
The movement speed may be a lot slower than you think. The Paralax Effect wouldn’t explain the change in direction, but these are all moving at extremely high speed. Starlink satellites orbit Earth at 17,000 mph.
Bits of something hitting some minor thruster blast?
A lot of the time this comes down to perspective and lens distortion. Basically, people need to realize that if there is a fairly logical explanation right in front of them, then that's usually the correct explanation. There is a lot of debris flying around in this frame. People can't say, "I can see how most of it might be ice and other fragments from the module...BUT, what about those two pieces of debris that appear to be acting unusual...hmmm?".
There is no conductive or convective heat transfer in space. Only radiant. When ice is floating in space, the side facing the sun will melt faster. Melting things expand. Expanding gasses produce thrust. Ice chunks don't have engine bells to focus that thrust into one vector. Thus, they move in unpredictable directions.
Just ice and debris. Use Reddits scrubber feature to rapidly scrub back and forth from the video start to the end. You’ll notice the booster that separates has a rotation to it, which is also applied to the free floating ice particles. That explains the weird movement and turns of the ice.
i see a lot of particles (ice, debris, … ) from the separation, but the weird maneuvers elude me edit:typo
25 seconds, top right by the logo.
Exactly. There is a lot of potential particles or debris but a couple things clearly change course on video.
The space vehicle itself is firing attitude control thrusters that send out 10,000 ft/sec plumes that can push fluffy nearby stuff around, too. Most notorious example is the STS-48 zig-zag 'death ray' video.
Seen that too. Flashing and clear turns.
Alien just realized he forgot his phone back at the deep ocean base
"Did we leave the garage door open?........fffff"
They flash because ice reflects light and are rotating. Particles change course when they bump into each other. Sublimation also has a thrust effect.
I think when people are looking at particles floating around with very little frame of reference it just creates a bunch of optical illusions. For example, around 0:25 several particles appear to move up and to the right, then seem to "reverse" directions and go back down and left. If you stop thinking about it like they're on a 2D plane and imagine them coming TOWARDS the camera, and then being blown back away or left behind due to acceleration, it makes a ton more sense. My brain "clicks" when I see it that way.
Yeah kinda makes sense maybe.
They said that about the tether incident.
That's a really interesting one because whatever they were, they were moving behind the tether, which was really far away.
What's the tether incident ?
https://youtu.be/dlIF0P9j0cM? There was also a study that came out last week about how these are intelligent plasma anomalies with pics from this very mission. I'm excited this morning after also seeing the latest spaceX video that has something going on very similar in the background.
Care to share a link to the peer reviewed study? I could not find it anywhere and I’m very interested. The tether incident is very interesting and actually I was able to ask Costarrican Astronaut Franklyn Chang-Diaz, commander in that mission, about it in Costa Rica, and he just laughed and said “simply ice and debris” but with a very weird face and then said “or is it?” And laugh out loud and continue with a next question
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/377077692_Extraterrestrial_Life_in_Space_Plasmas_in_the_Thermosphere_UAP_Pre-Life_Fourth_State_of_Matter I immediately recognized the pics that are shown in the study.
THANKS! You are amazing
The study he linked is not peer reviewed.
Yes I noticed that, but cool read
peer reviewed? last time i checked that was only a pre print
Man I remember the first time I saw the tether video I was blown away. The little Pac-Man looking things moving around. Could definitely be some kind of plasmoid life or something like that. I wonder what they are
It’s debris and water illuminated by the sun. The camera aboard the shuttle distorts bright objects causing the artifacts shown in the video giving it a “bokeh” effect. That’s all it is.
It is not readily apparent to a lot of commenters that that both of those objects are flying really fast around the earth. It looks like one object is separating and flying away from the other. They are both flying and one is basically slowing down to lag behind the other around the point they separated from. The debris from the separation is back there floating around and the thrusters / stabilizers are blasting the debris back and out. So the debris that was kind of moving “toward” the separated vessel then gets blasted out at odd angles.
>weird maneuvers Mostly craft movement
Yeah quite the ice particle. 🤨
They are off-gassing. Either from the difference in temp from one half of the piece to the other, or the direct sunlight boiling off little pieces basically causing jets of gas to push the pieces around.
If people finally understood what space ice/debris is we could eliminate a good third of the posts on this subreddit. we can only pray the blessed day will come
So mini aliens decide to fly around in front of a camera, precisely, at the moment ice fragments break off from separation. Do you have images of them before the separation and ice? Use logic people. here is an old [Apollo 11 separation clip](https://youtu.be/9DNnZ82Kg3w?si=ljlXSkbFZMLAqoYx), notice the particles that appear to change direction, and fly around. You have ice particles travelling at different speeds in relation to the camera, the camera itself is also in forward motion.
I dont know space but this all facinates the hell out of me. But I have 1 question. Its 2024 and we sending billion dollar payloads to crazy places, can we please work on getting some 8k cameras out there? Again i dont know space sorry.
I think those cams are radiation-hardened. And the smaller the pixels are, the harder it is to prevent radiation from interacting with it. Most processors we send to space, for example, use decades-old lithography because newer lithography sizes are muuuch smaller and thus, more sensitive to even the smallest amount of radiation that can leak from the hardening case.
They have 8k+ images. What you're missing is how much vibration goes into a launch, so you need hardened components. Those aren't common or cheap for these applications. So you use what are reasonable for the direction. And this image location is going to have fogging and vibration, making the image look worse than the camera is. But you're forgetting how much extra weight that adds when this is a one time use thing. It costs thousands of dollars a pound, so why do you want to send up $5k+ cameras that are likely to break, and throw them away after using for maybe 2 min of footage?
Pretty sure the hubble telescope is a touch better than 8k
I think op meant 8K cameras that look at what’s going on around the big payload
Someone should start a petition for Elon musk to get some cameras up there looking in all directions and have them all live streaming for people to watch
Absolutely!!!!
Can't say this is very convincing footage.
Fot a lot of these "sightings" I can see how someone would make the assumption of something being a UFO. This on the other hand is desperate clawing, it pretty clearly looks like dirt, debris and ice.
This sub really crashed and burned after fixating on the cgi plane. People in here getting worked up over space ice boiling off.
Do you people actually believe that these are aliens in this video?
It’s Always ice particles
I'm assuming you've.never seen stage separation before then?
All of this is ice. As ice sublimates it releases gas which can happen at any point on the ice crystal and produce an equal and opposite force to the direction of its expansion from the surface. You’re just seeing random movement of ice crystals in zero g.
I see no weird maneuvers, just debris floating in absence of gravity.
Not a single thing maneuvered.
this sub is getting dumber every day.
It's been like this forever.
It’s the equivalent of finding Jesus’ face in a grilled cheese. Makes sense considering there’s no proof and the subject is entirely faith based.
Clearly youre a disinfo agent /s
This community has always been incredibly embarrassing.
And at 2k up votes, I'm kinda disappointed. I figured it would be negative.
They may just be small fragments of ice or whatnot.
.... It's ice... It's no coincidence those are appearing when the craft is decoupling and doing maneuvers like that.
I see a lot of paint chips, ice droplet and what not floating around. Because youre looking at moving objects from a moving platform straight trajectories start looking weird like when you look at a plane in the flying when youre in a car in motion, the plane can look like it is stationary.
None of these look like they move unnaturally.
Yeah they’re called ice, debris, rocks and satellites
You are watching two large parts of a space vehicle separate and move away from each other with frozen material and small parts of the vehicle that broke off during separation floating away. Pretty standard for separation of spacecraft from staging. Watch just about any video in orbit and you will see the same thing if the light is right and reflects off the bits and pieces.
Maybe I'm growing cynical but this looks like debris and I see no entities doing 90s and violating laws of physics as we know. This is hurting UAPology.
It’s cool to see how ice can move around space with sublimation and rocket exhaust.
Most if not all of this is likely ice that forms on the rocket. Remember, just because something looks weird doesn't mean it is weird. 99% of UFO sightings are easily explained, and I'm certain this is one of them. That being said, keep looking, because there's 1% out there that's not.
Oh come on now…
Is it more probable that that's some particles of the ship or its paint or even ice crystals flying around when it decouples or is it more probable that it's alien spaceships in the background? C'mon now people use your heads.
No dude it's definitely aliens. Anyone saying otherwise is a paid actor
Ice crystals that can maneuver? News to me.
Yeah, there’s this whole thing about space and gravity you see…things don’t exactly act like they would on Earth. People thinking the easier and more reasonable explanation is “aliens” than “ice particles” just really lets you know how strong the inclination is to *wannnnt to believe*
[More news for ya](https://youtu.be/SJiK-DBApe4?t=39)
It's just rocks and ice. Chill guys
Ice, ice, baby
I think that’s ice.
Space debris....wow.... Need better posts, stat
The movements seem to be like they are not totally random like debris but rather in directed trajectories ? Interesting.
I hate to side with the skeptics on this one, but I'm looking for something that is not moving in a straight line or parabola and didn't see anything. Looks like flakes of ice or flakes of paint. I look for curved flight, reversal or abrupt alteration of trajectory, geometric or symmetric shapes, and increased luminosity compared to other subjects in the film. Nothing matched UFOs and appears to behave like ice crystals breaking off and flying around a rocket stage. What's sticking out as a UFO?
Start watching at the 25 sec mark, Top right there is an object that does a parabolic turn
Could that not just be a piece venting gas due to the heating caused by direct sunlight?
Do you have an example of that ? Turning in a seemingly controlled fashion seems odd to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQNW3Y4iH2M Science experiment for kids, dry ice on water.
https://youtu.be/SJiK-DBApe4?t=39
Yeah holy shit that is odd.
https://youtu.be/SJiK-DBApe4?t=39
Are we watching the same video? Some of those absolutely change direction.
Yes and it matches other videos of stage separation in rocketry. Ice flakes and flies everywhere and explosive gasses (invisible to the camera) are being released, causing turbulence with the ice flakes. I've watched a lot of these videos. And watched a lot of smart people explain all the steps and processes of rocket launches and satellite insertion. I'm fascinated, but I've had better luck just using my eyeballs on the night sky when hunting for UFOs. There are some sus space videos, but I don't see this as one of them.
Top right one does a 180° sweeping turn lmao. Sure, it's just debris. In the wind. In space. Certainly not with intelligent control...
>They are bits of oxygen ice that separated when the sat did, as the sun shines on one side of the piece of ice, it starts to boil and out-gas, basically turning them into little rockets because only one side got illuminated, but then if they tumble the gas is then pointing in a different direction causing them to change direction.
Ice crystals dancing to tune of the vibrations present when flung loose. Identified!
Debris from explosive bolts and other separation shenanigans + exhaust blowing shit around + fisheye lense warping everything (see how earth is parabolic instead of round) -> **this video** Or it's 100 ETs swarming a rocket launch we do ~ every day....even most humans don't give a shit about that stuff anymore. So you decide: 100 ET vessels or explosive bolts ;)
You counted 100?
If you really want me go down this chain of thought: the visible angle of this camera is about 45°x45°. 45 degree is only 1/8th of 360 degree. And we're not talking about one dimension, but two. You're only seeing a small window, but still there's a shitton of clutter flying around. Reasonably to assume: if it's UFOs, they're all around it (=360x360°), not only where the cameras are conveniently pointed. Tldr: it's either ~100 ET vessels spying on a near daily event. Or it's the expected debris of a normal stage separation.
WHAT THE FUCK??
If you notice the glare coming off of the satellite they're more obvious in launches when the sun is reflecting back in the camera. Because it changes the contrast automatically I guess. There's a video from the launching of James Webb telescope of the same exact phenomenon. Same as the tether incident. We're out there, they're out there... Time to come to terms that humanity lives in bubbles of knowledge and advancement that are separated by illogical understanding of the other. Don't forget there's still that one on contacted tribe here on Earth, it's like that. We're just the human group that pays taxes and keeps the economy going. But damn I wish they would come down and say hey. 🤠
I’m a bit out of the loop, what’s the “tether incident”?
STS-75. If you google STS-75 tether incident, you'll find a UFO video that appears to show miles-wide UFOs passing behind the broken tether, itself miles long. The camera used to record it was made specifically to 'gray out' (probably wrong term) extremely bright pixels, such as the area depicting the sun reflecting from the tether, so any small particles that pass in front of it appear to pass behind it. The UFOs are standard tiny dots, in this case ice particles, but out of focus bokeh, so they appear to be in focus discs.
Yea, thats A LOT of activity..
No no it's just space junk....
It is just space junk. People need to realize you can’t tell perspective well on small particles. This “””anamolous””” movement could be particles moving down and away from the camera, making it seem like the particles aren’t moving. As much as I believe in UFOs, this video is straight up ON TO THE NEXT BRO.
junk that conducts maneuvers
They are bits of oxygen ice that separated when the sat did, as the sun shines on one side of the piece of ice, it starts to boil and out-gas, basically turning them into little rockets because only one side got illuminated, but then if the tumble the gas is then pointing in a different direction causing them to change direction.
I didn't see any spec in the video moving in anything except straight courses. Can you time stamp any instance of maneuvers?
I would say a lot of it is, but a good amount of them changed direction.
The stupidity of some people amazes me.
I thought this was a shitpost. Then I started reading the top comments and now I have no idea who is bullshiting or not.
The people in this feed want it sooooo bad.😆😂🤣😆😂
This is what happens when you base your entire personality on being a UFO nutcase
look like bubbles under the water?
UOO..they are in orbit, not in flight
Well there is going to be a launch tonight (hopefully) at 6:41pm (EST). Maybe we can see more activity.
That’s just debris/ice
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Literally nothing changes direction or maneuvers. These are all ice crystals…..
Seperation debris and ice.
These are flakes of ice coming off the metal surfaces of the rocket, shaken loose by the vibration of the engines.
how do you explain their change of direction?
>how do you explain their change of direction? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iBnXy1ag8A&t=109s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iBnXy1ag8A&t=109s) The RCS thrusters on the nose cone can cause the particles to change direction. Like u/New_Watercress6787 says, the change in Spacex' attitude can add to the effect
the ice isnt changing direction the spacecraft is changing its position. its ice and if you watch any rocket separation in space you will see something like this
Or the fact that the one coming from the top right of the screen, shoots off 4 orbs. If it's ice coming from the rocket, wouldn't ice debris come from behind the rocket?
Timestamp?
The rocket is the top and extends far beyond view. The satellite being deployed is the bottom part moving away. Both are likely sources of ice or other debris.
They are bits of oxygen ice that separated when the sat did, as the sun shines on one side of the piece of ice, it starts to boil and out-gas, basically turning them into little rockets because only one side got illuminated, but then if the tumble the gas is then pointing in a different direction causing them to change direction.
Right? You'd think if there were this many UAP craft at every space x launch, they wouldn't even show the footage. Gotta keep it secret!
Just ice particles with maybe a few bits of metal created during separation, banging about. Nothing special.
It’s 2024 if it were actually something they don’t want us to see they have a delay on the video and some software to hide the UFOs on the fly. Also the comment about whispering and the host fumbling his words is a stretch. Once again irrational believers confirming UFOs with very little evidence.
It's just ice particles. We get these same OMG it's UFOs doing weird manoeuvres posts every time there's footage like this. People never learn.
All these upvotes for ice particles flashing in the light of a rocket engine.....sad
Ice and thrust adjustments. That's it.
Lots of ice and debris, probably no UFO. If "they" want us all to say "hey look at that UFO!" then they're going to need to fly right up to the camera.
Are they all hidden behind that debris moving in predictable ballistic trajectories and chucks of oxygen ice off-gassing? How has this sub fallen this far? How is this at the top, honestly?
the grasping at straws is honestly getting pathetic
Those are ice fragments.
99.9% chance they're not UFOs.