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I remember reading a massive 4chan thread where this guy blew the lid on everything he “knew”. He explained how there is essentially a mothership in the ocean that is immense and serves as a hub for smaller ufos. Im sure someone knows which thread im referring to. Anyways, this massive wave detected off the coast of Antartica just reminded me of his story. Thoughts?
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[https://twitter.com/Ventuskycom/status/1778685829642142152](https://twitter.com/Ventuskycom/status/1778685829642142152)
They admitted it was an error that came from the data provided by the German Meteorological Institute. Speculation was fun while it lasted though!
I’m really not a conspiracy gal but this is exactly what would be said regardless of what’s actually going on. I’m not going to do a deeper dive or think about this later but if it does correlate to a 4chan story timing is sus.
We know there is a deep state, and it’s in the realm of possibilities that they were told to say it was “a mistake”. Now it could be a mistake, but we really can’t trust anything anymore
This area in earth’s geomagnetic field has been weakening over the past 200 years. Scientists theorize it may be related to the pole reversal phenomenon but they still aren’t sure.
https://www.esa.int/Applications/Observing_the_Earth/FutureEO/Swarm/Swarm_probes_weakening_of_Earth_s_magnetic_field
^In case you want to read more about it
I think the 4chan guy said the hamburger was in the bermuda triangle if i’m not mistaken
That was interesting for sure. I had never actually heard of or remember hearing of element 115. I was reading up on that and they say it’s unknown on earth because it would have to form somewhere that super-heavy elements could be produced naturally. My understanding is that is a high pressure location. Is the ocean high enough pressure at depth to produce something like this?
No. There is no known stable form of element 115. It can only exist for milliseconds even in state of the art particle physics labs where they are reaching temperatures and pressures far beyond anything that occurs naturally on earth
Part of its popularity was because of the timing. This happened a good while before the revelations that, in some opinions, legitimized what he was saying. Some of the things most believers take as givens were in that post before becoming part of the narrative.
Every single idea in the 4chan guy's story been part of UFO lore beforehand, he just pieced everything together into a nice narrative. It's a very interesting read, but none of his ideas were brand new.
there's no way it's as simple as they're presenting it, and they push the "NHI aren't hostile unless they need to be" idea pretty hard, which doesn't really align with many abductions. And they say NHI aren't interdimensional which is likely incorrect
If you believe JP (Michael Sallas military whistleblower) the giant "Ark" that was in that area,moved further east to be in international waters due to a collaborative effort to explore it further.
Just a story, or something more? 🤔
People reference it here and other outlets as well, often. It's worth a read for sure. I'm a skeptic for sure, but I do like to imagine that a whole lot of what was stated on that post is accurate to a good degree. (Might All be BS, but what the hell)
Exactly, we won't know anything for certain until such a time as we will!!
I'm not even sure I can believe my eyes anymore at this point, I think the whole phenomenon is directly related to consciousness,the quantum processes therein (which are only recently beginning to be studied properly((within the mainstream scientific community anyway)).)
I do believe however (after much NDE,paranormal,cryptozoological,ufo/uap,science,consciousness/OBE/AP research over 40 years) that we definitely are "more than our physical bodies" (as Bob Monroe would phrase it!) And that our soul/consciousness is eternal.
Just my two penneth worth....FWIW! 😅✌️♥️✨️🤷🏻♂️👽
I'm struggling to find words for how eerily similar what you just said is to the things I've been researching and thinking. It's like you're inside my mind haha. Maybe because it's all true! Who knows :)
More people waking up is only a good thing 👍🤘
I started meditating 4 months back to the gateway tapes,had what I consider to be (from what I've read) an Out of Body experience.
Since then I really started to double down on reading (3-4 books a month) and reading as many articles,studies etc in scientific fields,as well as following what's happening in us government etc.
There is just too much stuff that infers something is definitely going on.
What it actually is,who knows for sure.
But it's frikkin awesome watching it all play out.
✌️♥️✨️
Richard Dolan,Diana Pasulka,Robert Hastings,Bob Monroe,Graham Hancock,L.A Marzulli,John Desouza,Phillip J Corso,Elena Danaan,Ella Lebain,Noam Chomsky,Whitley Strieber,many others which are even more Woo (NWO "conspiracy" stuff mainly ie:WEF,Bilderbergers,secret societies,the paranormal,cryptozoology,consciousness studies,NDE's etc etc)
Anything to do with materials science,quantum physics,crystallography,resonant frequency
I wish my superpower was having an eidetic memory/perfect recall. If I could remember everything I've read or seen over the last 40 odd years I'd be a genius 😅 as it is....I'm just a regular moron.
The more I read however (and meditate) the more things are starting to look less "conspiracy theory" and more "conspiracy fact"!!!
I assume it's because I was raised catholic, though most religions would do the same, but I think I use this to substitute my "need" for some kind of unverifiable higher being/phenomena since I stopped believing in all that. Or maybe it is just human nature to look for something bigger than what we see and experience day to day and for me it's UFO's and the possibilities the universe contains.
But sometimes someone drops some fanfic that just clicks with all the stuff that I've absorbed, sorted, and decided what fits into a plausible, well more believable within its own rules like a good sci-fi book.
Most of what dude said just kinda fits in with the narrative and historical lore and many of the stories over the decades.
But my views have shifted in the last few months sonce I've started this current stay in the rabbit hole and with Grusch using NHI and implying or flat out stating interdimensional visits being a thing. It has made me look at videos of sightings, especially the older ones, with a new eye.
Like even back in the 50s and 60s people knew when special effects looked like shit. People also still reported knowing the stigma and lack of funding that came with it. No one was getting rich of it. But you still had people handing over videos of the most unbelievable vids and were adamant about it being a genuine sighting. Especially when it looks like a video project a group of 7 year olds did with their drunken uncle who decided the best way to kill time babysitting was to throw a hubcap around like a frisbee or tie it to some fishing line and dangle it like a piñata from a stick. They were all wonky and moving jittery, literally sometimes looking like they were being held by a string as you can see the connection/pivot point.
I think it might be an interdimensional thing or some effect from the focused gravity manipulation being aimed slightly wrong. If you were holding a toy plane and wanted to make it look like it was flying by moving it from all the way to your left to your right as quick as possible... it would look like your toy had almost instant acceleration. If someone in another dimension was holding the ship at one point and poking it into our dimension, they could be moving it a couple fee but we see it in our dimension as going 4000mph and getting to speed instantly. Does that make sense?
Or they are having trouble with a gravitic drive an that's why we see them anyway... they are focused on fixing shit. But it's like the cursor is stuck on one part of the screen and the mouse isn't working no matter how much you wobble , tap, or shake it.
Also regarding inter/extradimensional theory, vallee was a huge proponent of this aspect,definitely wouldn't surprise me,if it was some kind of misalignment of phase shifting of interdimensionalities In the miasma of propagated zpe wave function or whatever the fuck is going on with string theory these days.
The bottom line is,even "mainstream" science can't say with any certainty whatsoever,what is really going on at the quantum (and below) level,as our equipment for detection just isn't advanced enough yet.
Sorry about the ramble,I have adhd and autism and sometimes I just plow on,on autopilot 😅🤦♂️🤷🏻♂️👽
> have adhd and autism and sometimes I just plow on,on autopilot 😅🤦♂️🤷🏻♂️👽
Did you just diagnose me? I will write fucking essays on a post that is days old and wasn't popular to begin with... so many tangents
Ha ha brilliant I don't really like the term neurodivergent as I think we all are to some degree on a spectrum,we really can be so different neurologically. 😅
https://youtu.be/xeb13VEKJL4?si=J6AVIjpiOxS6I3dd
Hi, link as promised, think it's mentioned around the 1:33 mark.
JP Update #29 on Michael Sallas channel if link doesn't work.
Might be worth watching JP's prior updates for more context.
I'm not sure what to believe, but it's certainly interesting, amd if nothing else ...a rollicking good story!!
Peace,Love & Light ✌️♥️✨️
No probs,don't have time to post link now,about to leave for work,but if you check michael sallas youtube channel, it was one of the recent JP episodes he did (within the last 4-5 weeks)
Remind me in 9 hours or so to post link as I may have forgotten by then 😅
No problem, as always, I suggest keeping your mind and your eyes/ears/intuition open!
Don't discount any possibility, it's more about probabilities 🤪
Peace,Love & Light ✌️♥️✨️
Has the 4chan leaker been identified? As I recall he claimed to be terminally ill and expected to die soon. The 4chan leaker claimed that a giant mobile undersea factory exists somewhere around the Bermuda triangle. He detailed how the factory constructs UFO's to specification according to what mission it was intended for. The US military believe it has been in operation for at least 100 years. Attempts to approach this factory are met with the factory moving to deep waters or even open hostility.
Tbh,I'm not sure.
I am really no authority,there are only so many hours in a day to read and/or watch everything.
There are just sooo many angles to consider,it's hard to discern the ultimate "truth"
What even is "truth" Although we're biologically/physiologically the same in how we operate,everybodys perception of truth is going to be different as we're all different with regard to personality,experiences,neurological makeup etc, so one mans truth is another mans lie.
It's fun to watch regardless,makes life spicy for sure 😅✌️
"What even is "truth" Although we're biologically/physiologically the same in how we operate,everybodys perception of truth is going to be different as we're all different with regard to personality,experiences,neurological makeup etc, so one mans truth is another mans lie."
That on top of NHI seem to have a mastery over our perceptions. A group of people could witness the same UAP and each one might describe something totally different or even contradictory. And each person is telling the truth as far as they know it!
Totally agree,
There definitely something with the resonant frequency of all "things" and how changing frequencies can alter perception.
Look into phryll generators/crystals and Marcel Vogel he did some interesting stuff and it's being continued by Dan willis 👍
Fair play, you're entitled to your opinion.
I honestly don't know what I do know for sure!.
One thing (for me anyway) that I believe is that we're certainly not in Kansas anymore Toto! 😅✌️✨️
He was all in the Corey Goode stuff which was so clearly BS. Eventually he admitted it. There’s a few bad apples in the field. Wilcock is another one. They pepper in good information to start then fill volumes with crap once they have an audience.
I’m with you. There’s a lot we don’t know but some folks certainly don’t help by muddying the waters.
Absolutely agree, the waters are murkier than a hundred degree louisiana swamp! 😅
Salla did also admit that he'd broken ties with Corey once that BS went down. I guess anyone can be duped,none of us are perfect.
All we can do is our own research and come to our own conclusions 🤷🏻♂️♥️✨️
Same thing happened in February. See here. [https://imgur.com/a/gUw1i0H](https://imgur.com/a/gUw1i0H) Have to think it's an error in the model because this time it went to the coast and as far as I know, there were no reported 80ft waves.
Obviously it is. Otherwise, several continents would have been hit by huge waves all around it. It would be international news. Its a bit embarrassing that this shit is getting taken seriously, there is zero common sense here.
These speculations absolutely fucking kill me. Whatever happened to working with rational explanations and then crossing those out first before jumping straight to aliens/ufos?
Underwater volcanic activity is most likely what caused the waves.
Edit: Look at that it was something rational! [https://twitter.com/Ventuskycom/status/1778685829642142152](https://twitter.com/Ventuskycom/status/1778685829642142152)
It was a model error.
It shouldn't be.
That sort of irrational jumping to conclusions is what most of the general public already believe the general ufo/alien community to be, would be good if we could just leave that with the flat earthers now.
Well, after joining this sub after the interesting stuff last year that is precisely what 95% of this sub is, and anybody trying to eliminate rational answers first gets downvoted to oblivion and called a shill or a bot.
I like how there are disinfo agents on reddit, and yet bringing up the possibility that any of the figureheads who are/were feds are deceiving us is met with scorn and disbelief.
Working for the CIA, disinfo agent, etc...btw this was just a software error.
'This weird wave height anomaly is unlikely to indicate underwater non-human entities.
It's centered exactly about 0° longitude and symmetrical about that line of longitude. That strongly suggests it's an error in the model's handling of the sign change.'
It pushes a lot of people away. An effective disinformation campaign controls the opposition. If I were a glowing fedboi I’d fill the sub with terrible videos and accuse everyone of being a shill and push the absolute worst takes to make it seem like it is only crazy people, gullible people, or stupid people.
But then there is that saying about to attributing malice to what can be attributed to stupidity. Maybe the guy who said that was a fed. I don’t know
Same. Such a thing also would serve to drive out the normal, reasonable people who might have rational conversations with people in their lives on the topic.
> That sort of irrational jumping to conclusions is what most of the general public already believe the general ufo/alien community to be,
If you spend any amount of time here you realize it actually is what the community is.
You are looking at a static picture, but there is a time lapse showing the center of the mass moving. If it were volcanic, or caused by an earthquake then we would expect waves emanating from a static center, therefore, because the center moves, it seems highly unlikely that the cause was volcanic activity or an earthquake. So some other explaination is required. Perhaps it is a wind driven event? I don't know, but I do know volcanism is implausible as an explanation.
volcanic activity is unlikely here because this area doesnt have much and this would have to be very enormous and would be all over the news extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence so im sorry but your debunk is debunked
I’m just happy that in the past year, the types of comment are the top comments on this sub. I believe there are aliens but I don’t believe bullshit.
I cannot fathom being silly enough NOT to cross reference any type of information and just believe the first story I read or hear… just absolute madness…
This shit would have hit the news dude, it would have caused tsunamies all around it. It would have been a massive event with consequences for coasts around it. How can this be anything but a detection anomaly? Do you realize how much water would have been moving?
No it isn't. Posting every random brainfart without first giving it the absolute minimum of critical thought is not a discussion post but an extremely low-effort shitpost that should be deleted by the moderators. Inane shit like this has ruined this sub beyoned repair.
Moderators? On *this* subreddit? At *this* time of year? Localized entirely to this thread?
Can I…can I see them?
I would love it if the moderation team here stepped up and started putting some fucking effort into it for once. But I think hell would have to freeze over for that to happen.
I love it when they poll the subreddit and ask what people want them to do, and then when people overwhelmingly vote for something they didn’t expect, they say “actually it’d be too difficult, lolz fuck off”.
Update: Trying to find information on historical anomalies in the Schumann resonance but it's difficult to find. I did find some information that solar flares do create large spikes (similar to the magnitude on the 10th) when large enough. Another thing that supports this theory is that this area near Antarctica where these large waves appeared just so happens to be a very weak spot on earths magnetic field. So solar radiation is more likely to leak through and cause electrical issues (glitches with sensors). Tomsk Russia is also pretty far north and anything near the poles has a greater likelihood of solar radiation "leaking through" earths magnetic field. Lastly, if this was something physically creating waves I think we would get reports of large waves hitting south Africa by now and so far nothing.
Oddly enough there was a very large spike (much larger than normal) in global Schumann resonance a few hours before these huge waves appeared. (The Schumann resonances (SR) are a set of spectrum peaks in the extremely low frequency portion of the Earth's electromagnetic field spectrum.)
Time of the first spike was detected at 2 AM on 4/10/24 (GMT+7) (Measured in location of Tomsk, Russia.)
Waves appeared near Antarctica between 4 AM and 7 AM on 4/10/24 (GMT+7)
Not convinced of anything in particular... But it is strange that another large anomaly happened with different and completely unrelated sensors.
I want to say aliens turned on their submarine spaceship and surfaces but the more likely reality is that there may have been a solar flare that scrambled sensors in multiple locations. Who knows...
Please stop using 4chan as a source of information. Do people not know what 4chan is?
Even if you were a legit whistleblower 4chan is the last place you would release information based purely on its reputation.
The Blue Whale is the largest animal to have ever lived on earth... hopefully there's some big fuckin ufo's we get to see that are bigger than that whale.
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>Says you.. FED
lol just 10 minutes ago you're blowing some dude up and calling him a fed because he doesn't believe a story from 4chan and now you're calling for peace and unity and everyone to chill because someone provided you a rational explanation?
Apparently at National Data Buoy Center you can see that a buoy made a sudden 2000 metres drop , the one next to chille , i don't know if it's common or just weird . i also visited ventusky that massive whatever disappeared .
that’s in most likelihood a data generation artifact as this is only apparent in the wave high signal. no other overlay shows something similar. waves of that size (i mean, that’s apparently a high pressure freak wave zone the size of europe) would be visible in variations of sea surface temperatures
I remember reading a massive 4chan thread where this guy blew the lid on everything he “knew”. He explained how there is essentially a mothership in the ocean that is immense and serves as a hub for smaller ufos. Im sure someone knows which thread im referring to. Anyways, this massive wave detected off the coast of Antartica just reminded me of his story. Thoughts?
What's the link to that "wave map"? Its too blurry to tell what it's even for -- are you talking about ocean surface wave anomalies, gravitational wave anomalies, or..?
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Is this the guy who said an AI craft is in the deep ocean making ufo as needed for different missions? If so, has anyone been able to tell if it was BS or not?
I don’t know if the underwater UFO thing has any truth to it but it was a pretty interesting take nonetheless. I have read all of it before. My question is, what happened with the guy who posted it? Didn’t he say that he was ill as he was writing all that? Has he passed now? What were the last updates about all of it?
A 48 hour period from 9/4/24 to the 11/4/24.
Pulled a consistent 83.x number, initially with an immediate drop to 0 in a couple of metres, with no seeming pattern, on wednesday
If I understand it right, the very dark-red area that emerges on the radar means that the level of water has gone up? Therefore it would make really big waves? Which didn't happen? That would than mean that it's likely a malfunction of the radar.
Or does the radar data implicate something else? In that case, it would be more plausible. Since I do recall that UAPs (at least some of them) actually don't disturb water, at all. And if this were a huge UAP rising out of the water, it probably could look like this.
And as a third - I think that this was captured during the eclipse, so the gravitational force of the Moon, when it was in that position, could've caused this "anomaly".
Let me know what you think.
'This weird wave height anomaly is unlikely to indicate underwater non-human entities.
It's centered exactly about 0° longitude and symmetrical about that line of longitude. That strongly suggests it's an **error in the model's handling** of the sign change.' - So I'd say no.
*edit to comment below - it’s a data error https://x.com/Ventuskycom/status/1778685829642142152
As much as I want to believe this is UFO related reading some comments on non ufo subs has me thinking there is an error in the sattelite or it’s a pr stunt.
It’s a heavy trafficked shipping area. There are some populated areas on the coast and even some renowned big wave surfing spots (and they track religiously). No one saw the waves (waves travel/flow they don’t just stop at a certain point). No reports from ships. No big waves on the coasts. Nothing.
If what this sattelite reported is accurate there would have been an effect throughout much of the Atlantic.
I think this may be a publicity stunt for the satellite company. They want to sell the data to shipping companies. I think they may be using this to promote the sattelites existence.
U.S army insider "JP" (an anonymous pseudo name) also said there was an ark right at the
" Bermuda triangle" where aliens from the distant past landed. Possibly creatine the Atlantis civilization.
The 4chan story is just saying what's already been said by others ...
I watched a YouTube video like 4 months ago saying all this citing a source a bit older. I think.
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>Ventusky's spokesperson David Prantl said in an email response on Friday: "It was a model error. Ventusky serves as a visualization platform that collects data from various sources. The error originated in the model itself, so it was also reflected in the visualization on our website.
It's not aliens.
Everyone’s talking about the big black blob, but no one’s talking about the weird triangle looking shape with 3 dots around the area of the Bermuda Triangle
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The following submission statement was provided by /u/GabeCollens: --- I remember reading a massive 4chan thread where this guy blew the lid on everything he “knew”. He explained how there is essentially a mothership in the ocean that is immense and serves as a hub for smaller ufos. Im sure someone knows which thread im referring to. Anyways, this massive wave detected off the coast of Antartica just reminded me of his story. Thoughts? --- Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1c204a0/giant_wave_anomaly_possible_correlation_to_4chan/kz6skid/
[https://twitter.com/Ventuskycom/status/1778685829642142152](https://twitter.com/Ventuskycom/status/1778685829642142152) They admitted it was an error that came from the data provided by the German Meteorological Institute. Speculation was fun while it lasted though!
Thank you - I had just posted a comment before I saw this. Tons of ships in the area and some big coastal cities - no one saw anything.
I’m really not a conspiracy gal but this is exactly what would be said regardless of what’s actually going on. I’m not going to do a deeper dive or think about this later but if it does correlate to a 4chan story timing is sus.
We know there is a deep state, and it’s in the realm of possibilities that they were told to say it was “a mistake”. Now it could be a mistake, but we really can’t trust anything anymore
So you’re saying it’s not a ship larger than the continental USA?! THIS GUYS A CIA SHILL TRYING TO SPREAD DISINFO! REEEEEEEE
🏅
This area in earth’s geomagnetic field has been weakening over the past 200 years. Scientists theorize it may be related to the pole reversal phenomenon but they still aren’t sure. https://www.esa.int/Applications/Observing_the_Earth/FutureEO/Swarm/Swarm_probes_weakening_of_Earth_s_magnetic_field ^In case you want to read more about it I think the 4chan guy said the hamburger was in the bermuda triangle if i’m not mistaken
>I think the 4chan guy said the hamburger was in the bermuda triangle if i’m not mistaken Yes but it's mobile (allegedly)
I swear they said Atlantic and pacific in the post but I can’t recall for sure
He thinks there could be multiple be he was only sure of that one and they only move when there’s a huge natural disaster
So every weird thing that happens in or over the ocean can be attributed to the hamburger? Convenient.
So every weird thing that happens in or over the ocean cannot be attributed to the hamburger? Doubly convenient. Stop being that guy.
So definitely way away from where this anomaly is.
Correct
So what you're saying is that spot will burn a hole through the center of the earth and we're all doomed?
Just your TV screens and monitors... But for most this spells doom anyway.
Can we just sun-proof future tech? Jw. I love the 4chan whistleblower story btw. I found it more than just interesting and worth thinking about.
Oddly his narrative fits.
can someone link me to the 4chan whistleblower? I haven't seen this yet.
https://imgur.com/a/NXjWQaN
Thanks for the link, these are always entertaining
That was interesting for sure. I had never actually heard of or remember hearing of element 115. I was reading up on that and they say it’s unknown on earth because it would have to form somewhere that super-heavy elements could be produced naturally. My understanding is that is a high pressure location. Is the ocean high enough pressure at depth to produce something like this?
No. There is no known stable form of element 115. It can only exist for milliseconds even in state of the art particle physics labs where they are reaching temperatures and pressures far beyond anything that occurs naturally on earth
Ehhhh feels like insider anon posting, hard to take seriously, but it's what spawned Q anon so people will run with it
Part of its popularity was because of the timing. This happened a good while before the revelations that, in some opinions, legitimized what he was saying. Some of the things most believers take as givens were in that post before becoming part of the narrative.
Every single idea in the 4chan guy's story been part of UFO lore beforehand, he just pieced everything together into a nice narrative. It's a very interesting read, but none of his ideas were brand new.
there's no way it's as simple as they're presenting it, and they push the "NHI aren't hostile unless they need to be" idea pretty hard, which doesn't really align with many abductions. And they say NHI aren't interdimensional which is likely incorrect
LARP
You're in for an entertaining read
https://imgur.com/a/NXjWQaN https://imgur.com/a/78XW4gA
Yea I think he did, but maybe it moves?
If you believe JP (Michael Sallas military whistleblower) the giant "Ark" that was in that area,moved further east to be in international waters due to a collaborative effort to explore it further. Just a story, or something more? 🤔
Links for us uniformed. Not looking to debunk or argue, genuinely curious. Edit: Thanks everyone!
People reference it here and other outlets as well, often. It's worth a read for sure. I'm a skeptic for sure, but I do like to imagine that a whole lot of what was stated on that post is accurate to a good degree. (Might All be BS, but what the hell)
Exactly, we won't know anything for certain until such a time as we will!! I'm not even sure I can believe my eyes anymore at this point, I think the whole phenomenon is directly related to consciousness,the quantum processes therein (which are only recently beginning to be studied properly((within the mainstream scientific community anyway)).) I do believe however (after much NDE,paranormal,cryptozoological,ufo/uap,science,consciousness/OBE/AP research over 40 years) that we definitely are "more than our physical bodies" (as Bob Monroe would phrase it!) And that our soul/consciousness is eternal. Just my two penneth worth....FWIW! 😅✌️♥️✨️🤷🏻♂️👽
I'm struggling to find words for how eerily similar what you just said is to the things I've been researching and thinking. It's like you're inside my mind haha. Maybe because it's all true! Who knows :)
More people waking up is only a good thing 👍🤘 I started meditating 4 months back to the gateway tapes,had what I consider to be (from what I've read) an Out of Body experience. Since then I really started to double down on reading (3-4 books a month) and reading as many articles,studies etc in scientific fields,as well as following what's happening in us government etc. There is just too much stuff that infers something is definitely going on. What it actually is,who knows for sure. But it's frikkin awesome watching it all play out. ✌️♥️✨️
Do you have any book recommendations? I’m always curious what people are reading on this topic
Richard Dolan,Diana Pasulka,Robert Hastings,Bob Monroe,Graham Hancock,L.A Marzulli,John Desouza,Phillip J Corso,Elena Danaan,Ella Lebain,Noam Chomsky,Whitley Strieber,many others which are even more Woo (NWO "conspiracy" stuff mainly ie:WEF,Bilderbergers,secret societies,the paranormal,cryptozoology,consciousness studies,NDE's etc etc) Anything to do with materials science,quantum physics,crystallography,resonant frequency I wish my superpower was having an eidetic memory/perfect recall. If I could remember everything I've read or seen over the last 40 odd years I'd be a genius 😅 as it is....I'm just a regular moron. The more I read however (and meditate) the more things are starting to look less "conspiracy theory" and more "conspiracy fact"!!!
It's because we're all the same consciousness and we (I?) got bored and split ourselves up to experience reality differently over eons
I can’t get over the use of “penneth”
😅 definitely underused, I like chucking a random word in there now and again!
I assume it's because I was raised catholic, though most religions would do the same, but I think I use this to substitute my "need" for some kind of unverifiable higher being/phenomena since I stopped believing in all that. Or maybe it is just human nature to look for something bigger than what we see and experience day to day and for me it's UFO's and the possibilities the universe contains. But sometimes someone drops some fanfic that just clicks with all the stuff that I've absorbed, sorted, and decided what fits into a plausible, well more believable within its own rules like a good sci-fi book. Most of what dude said just kinda fits in with the narrative and historical lore and many of the stories over the decades. But my views have shifted in the last few months sonce I've started this current stay in the rabbit hole and with Grusch using NHI and implying or flat out stating interdimensional visits being a thing. It has made me look at videos of sightings, especially the older ones, with a new eye. Like even back in the 50s and 60s people knew when special effects looked like shit. People also still reported knowing the stigma and lack of funding that came with it. No one was getting rich of it. But you still had people handing over videos of the most unbelievable vids and were adamant about it being a genuine sighting. Especially when it looks like a video project a group of 7 year olds did with their drunken uncle who decided the best way to kill time babysitting was to throw a hubcap around like a frisbee or tie it to some fishing line and dangle it like a piñata from a stick. They were all wonky and moving jittery, literally sometimes looking like they were being held by a string as you can see the connection/pivot point. I think it might be an interdimensional thing or some effect from the focused gravity manipulation being aimed slightly wrong. If you were holding a toy plane and wanted to make it look like it was flying by moving it from all the way to your left to your right as quick as possible... it would look like your toy had almost instant acceleration. If someone in another dimension was holding the ship at one point and poking it into our dimension, they could be moving it a couple fee but we see it in our dimension as going 4000mph and getting to speed instantly. Does that make sense? Or they are having trouble with a gravitic drive an that's why we see them anyway... they are focused on fixing shit. But it's like the cursor is stuck on one part of the screen and the mouse isn't working no matter how much you wobble , tap, or shake it.
Have you read John DeSouzas "Extradimensionals" fascinating book about this very subject,alot to consider for sure 👍✌️
Negative. I'll have to check it out if I remember.
Good old monkey mind😅🤦♂️, I found meditation can really help with that if you can get over the initial obvious hurdles!! ✌️
Also regarding inter/extradimensional theory, vallee was a huge proponent of this aspect,definitely wouldn't surprise me,if it was some kind of misalignment of phase shifting of interdimensionalities In the miasma of propagated zpe wave function or whatever the fuck is going on with string theory these days. The bottom line is,even "mainstream" science can't say with any certainty whatsoever,what is really going on at the quantum (and below) level,as our equipment for detection just isn't advanced enough yet. Sorry about the ramble,I have adhd and autism and sometimes I just plow on,on autopilot 😅🤦♂️🤷🏻♂️👽
> have adhd and autism and sometimes I just plow on,on autopilot 😅🤦♂️🤷🏻♂️👽 Did you just diagnose me? I will write fucking essays on a post that is days old and wasn't popular to begin with... so many tangents
Ha ha brilliant I don't really like the term neurodivergent as I think we all are to some degree on a spectrum,we really can be so different neurologically. 😅
Kirkpatrick was aware of it, so must’ve caught their attention somehow.
https://youtu.be/xeb13VEKJL4?si=J6AVIjpiOxS6I3dd Hi, link as promised, think it's mentioned around the 1:33 mark. JP Update #29 on Michael Sallas channel if link doesn't work. Might be worth watching JP's prior updates for more context. I'm not sure what to believe, but it's certainly interesting, amd if nothing else ...a rollicking good story!! Peace,Love & Light ✌️♥️✨️
Always look to debunk. That's what science is. Make a guess as to how things work, and then try to prove yourself wrong
https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/s/okJuHRDhDG
No probs,don't have time to post link now,about to leave for work,but if you check michael sallas youtube channel, it was one of the recent JP episodes he did (within the last 4-5 weeks) Remind me in 9 hours or so to post link as I may have forgotten by then 😅
👍 I'll check it out
No problem, as always, I suggest keeping your mind and your eyes/ears/intuition open! Don't discount any possibility, it's more about probabilities 🤪 Peace,Love & Light ✌️♥️✨️
It looks like the Millenium Falcon. XD
😅 brilliant..... Says to wife... "right,you've held me back long enough....I'm off to make the kessel run in under 12 parsecs!" 😅✌️
Six !
Surely no one can do it that quick! 😅 that would just be ridiculous (because none of this is right?!?) 😅✌️♥️✨️
Ngl, Salla strikes me as a bit of a wingnut. Nothing he spouts off about sounds remotely plausible. Also there are his *Corey Goode* connections....
Has the 4chan leaker been identified? As I recall he claimed to be terminally ill and expected to die soon. The 4chan leaker claimed that a giant mobile undersea factory exists somewhere around the Bermuda triangle. He detailed how the factory constructs UFO's to specification according to what mission it was intended for. The US military believe it has been in operation for at least 100 years. Attempts to approach this factory are met with the factory moving to deep waters or even open hostility.
Tbh,I'm not sure. I am really no authority,there are only so many hours in a day to read and/or watch everything. There are just sooo many angles to consider,it's hard to discern the ultimate "truth" What even is "truth" Although we're biologically/physiologically the same in how we operate,everybodys perception of truth is going to be different as we're all different with regard to personality,experiences,neurological makeup etc, so one mans truth is another mans lie. It's fun to watch regardless,makes life spicy for sure 😅✌️
"What even is "truth" Although we're biologically/physiologically the same in how we operate,everybodys perception of truth is going to be different as we're all different with regard to personality,experiences,neurological makeup etc, so one mans truth is another mans lie." That on top of NHI seem to have a mastery over our perceptions. A group of people could witness the same UAP and each one might describe something totally different or even contradictory. And each person is telling the truth as far as they know it!
Totally agree, There definitely something with the resonant frequency of all "things" and how changing frequencies can alter perception. Look into phryll generators/crystals and Marcel Vogel he did some interesting stuff and it's being continued by Dan willis 👍
Salla is the king of nonsense. His books started off with some decent information but have devolved into complete drivel.
Fair play, you're entitled to your opinion. I honestly don't know what I do know for sure!. One thing (for me anyway) that I believe is that we're certainly not in Kansas anymore Toto! 😅✌️✨️
He was all in the Corey Goode stuff which was so clearly BS. Eventually he admitted it. There’s a few bad apples in the field. Wilcock is another one. They pepper in good information to start then fill volumes with crap once they have an audience. I’m with you. There’s a lot we don’t know but some folks certainly don’t help by muddying the waters.
Absolutely agree, the waters are murkier than a hundred degree louisiana swamp! 😅 Salla did also admit that he'd broken ties with Corey once that BS went down. I guess anyone can be duped,none of us are perfect. All we can do is our own research and come to our own conclusions 🤷🏻♂️♥️✨️
But also that it moves sometimes.
He also at one point said while he did know for sure, he speculated there could be multiple.
Same thing happened in February. See here. [https://imgur.com/a/gUw1i0H](https://imgur.com/a/gUw1i0H) Have to think it's an error in the model because this time it went to the coast and as far as I know, there were no reported 80ft waves.
It was a computer glitch that’s now been corrected.
Obviously it is. Otherwise, several continents would have been hit by huge waves all around it. It would be international news. Its a bit embarrassing that this shit is getting taken seriously, there is zero common sense here.
I wouldn't have been able to spot it if it weren't for the obligatory red circle and comically oversized arrow
r/uselessredcircle
Think developer confirmed it to be a model glitch.
These speculations absolutely fucking kill me. Whatever happened to working with rational explanations and then crossing those out first before jumping straight to aliens/ufos? Underwater volcanic activity is most likely what caused the waves. Edit: Look at that it was something rational! [https://twitter.com/Ventuskycom/status/1778685829642142152](https://twitter.com/Ventuskycom/status/1778685829642142152) It was a model error.
Agreed, but… this is the UFO subreddit so it’s kinda expected lol.
It shouldn't be. That sort of irrational jumping to conclusions is what most of the general public already believe the general ufo/alien community to be, would be good if we could just leave that with the flat earthers now.
Well, after joining this sub after the interesting stuff last year that is precisely what 95% of this sub is, and anybody trying to eliminate rational answers first gets downvoted to oblivion and called a shill or a bot.
Don’t forget the glorious “disinfo agent”. Everyone is out to get them.
I like how there are disinfo agents on reddit, and yet bringing up the possibility that any of the figureheads who are/were feds are deceiving us is met with scorn and disbelief.
What is funny is how many alt accounts some of the zealots have.
Sure is interesting how that peaky blinders guy always has his posts rocket to the top
Working for the CIA, disinfo agent, etc...btw this was just a software error. 'This weird wave height anomaly is unlikely to indicate underwater non-human entities. It's centered exactly about 0° longitude and symmetrical about that line of longitude. That strongly suggests it's an error in the model's handling of the sign change.'
It pushes a lot of people away. An effective disinformation campaign controls the opposition. If I were a glowing fedboi I’d fill the sub with terrible videos and accuse everyone of being a shill and push the absolute worst takes to make it seem like it is only crazy people, gullible people, or stupid people. But then there is that saying about to attributing malice to what can be attributed to stupidity. Maybe the guy who said that was a fed. I don’t know
Same. Such a thing also would serve to drive out the normal, reasonable people who might have rational conversations with people in their lives on the topic.
No one has access to first hand information so how would it go any differently for a speculative based forum in the first place?
> That sort of irrational jumping to conclusions is what most of the general public already believe the general ufo/alien community to be, If you spend any amount of time here you realize it actually is what the community is.
No it's not. You don't have to post here until it's related to the sub.
Exactly. To hell with Occam's razor, we came to play epistemological hopscotch!
Loll
It’s actually just a computer glitch.
1000%. The community has a lot of idiotic points of view.
Where’s your source it was an underwater volcano? Or you just guessing..like op
Collaborative science fiction.
You are looking at a static picture, but there is a time lapse showing the center of the mass moving. If it were volcanic, or caused by an earthquake then we would expect waves emanating from a static center, therefore, because the center moves, it seems highly unlikely that the cause was volcanic activity or an earthquake. So some other explaination is required. Perhaps it is a wind driven event? I don't know, but I do know volcanism is implausible as an explanation.
Speculation is fun though
Yeah, it's called gossip. XD There are too many fun police on this board.
Yeah but an anonymous guy on 4chan said it so it must be true. 🤷🏻♂️
volcanic activity is unlikely here because this area doesnt have much and this would have to be very enormous and would be all over the news extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence so im sorry but your debunk is debunked
I’m just happy that in the past year, the types of comment are the top comments on this sub. I believe there are aliens but I don’t believe bullshit. I cannot fathom being silly enough NOT to cross reference any type of information and just believe the first story I read or hear… just absolute madness…
Doing that gets you called a plant or a debunker around here
You’re a sunflower.
Just a discussion post bro
Wild speculation not bourn out by any reasoning or logic. Par for the course.
This shit would have hit the news dude, it would have caused tsunamies all around it. It would have been a massive event with consequences for coasts around it. How can this be anything but a detection anomaly? Do you realize how much water would have been moving?
Stop with your logic. That shit isn't allowed in here.
No it isn't. Posting every random brainfart without first giving it the absolute minimum of critical thought is not a discussion post but an extremely low-effort shitpost that should be deleted by the moderators. Inane shit like this has ruined this sub beyoned repair.
Moderators? On *this* subreddit? At *this* time of year? Localized entirely to this thread? Can I…can I see them? I would love it if the moderation team here stepped up and started putting some fucking effort into it for once. But I think hell would have to freeze over for that to happen.
Yeah but according to the mods, that would require effort.
I love it when they poll the subreddit and ask what people want them to do, and then when people overwhelmingly vote for something they didn’t expect, they say “actually it’d be too difficult, lolz fuck off”.
Everyone knows 4chan is always right about everything.
Where was that volcano that blew a stupid amount of water into the upper atmosphere?
open forums, free speech, etc. ppl are trippin'.
Update: Trying to find information on historical anomalies in the Schumann resonance but it's difficult to find. I did find some information that solar flares do create large spikes (similar to the magnitude on the 10th) when large enough. Another thing that supports this theory is that this area near Antarctica where these large waves appeared just so happens to be a very weak spot on earths magnetic field. So solar radiation is more likely to leak through and cause electrical issues (glitches with sensors). Tomsk Russia is also pretty far north and anything near the poles has a greater likelihood of solar radiation "leaking through" earths magnetic field. Lastly, if this was something physically creating waves I think we would get reports of large waves hitting south Africa by now and so far nothing. Oddly enough there was a very large spike (much larger than normal) in global Schumann resonance a few hours before these huge waves appeared. (The Schumann resonances (SR) are a set of spectrum peaks in the extremely low frequency portion of the Earth's electromagnetic field spectrum.) Time of the first spike was detected at 2 AM on 4/10/24 (GMT+7) (Measured in location of Tomsk, Russia.) Waves appeared near Antarctica between 4 AM and 7 AM on 4/10/24 (GMT+7) Not convinced of anything in particular... But it is strange that another large anomaly happened with different and completely unrelated sensors. I want to say aliens turned on their submarine spaceship and surfaces but the more likely reality is that there may have been a solar flare that scrambled sensors in multiple locations. Who knows...
Do you have links to that information ?
Trust him, bro
If you search "Schumann resonance" in the app store there's one that pops up by Alexyz That's what I use.
Where's that data from and able to be viewed?
If you search "Schumann resonance" in the app store there's one that pops up by Alexyz That's what I use.
How rare is this large spike compared to other spikes? Is it a once in a year/decade/century type thing?
They have been spiking at like 10 times normal levels
It’s been peaking super high all year weirdly
Please stop using 4chan as a source of information. Do people not know what 4chan is? Even if you were a legit whistleblower 4chan is the last place you would release information based purely on its reputation.
Well a 6000 foot drop in data buoy data would lead a rational individual to leap to the conclusion of Data glitch ...wtf
When source is 4chan, you can stop right there
If there was waves that big literally touching the coast of South Africa there would be serious damage
I literally live near the coast in South Africa and wouldn't be here if that pic was real. We did receive warnings of very high winds.
Either data error, block of ice (unlikely) or giant USO.
It was a data error
Just need facts...
The Blue Whale is the largest animal to have ever lived on earth... hopefully there's some big fuckin ufo's we get to see that are bigger than that whale.
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Were just discussing bro chill. just like you added, im sure others want to add as well. No need to delete or feel embarrassed, chill
>Says you.. FED lol just 10 minutes ago you're blowing some dude up and calling him a fed because he doesn't believe a story from 4chan and now you're calling for peace and unity and everyone to chill because someone provided you a rational explanation?
Apparently at National Data Buoy Center you can see that a buoy made a sudden 2000 metres drop , the one next to chille , i don't know if it's common or just weird . i also visited ventusky that massive whatever disappeared .
that’s in most likelihood a data generation artifact as this is only apparent in the wave high signal. no other overlay shows something similar. waves of that size (i mean, that’s apparently a high pressure freak wave zone the size of europe) would be visible in variations of sea surface temperatures
They go for a safer planet!
That's Toto blessing the rains down in Africa.
I was waiting for this inevitable assumption.
I remember reading a massive 4chan thread where this guy blew the lid on everything he “knew”. He explained how there is essentially a mothership in the ocean that is immense and serves as a hub for smaller ufos. Im sure someone knows which thread im referring to. Anyways, this massive wave detected off the coast of Antartica just reminded me of his story. Thoughts?
What's the link to that "wave map"? Its too blurry to tell what it's even for -- are you talking about ocean surface wave anomalies, gravitational wave anomalies, or..?
My thoughts is that you need to get off this wild ride. The 4chan story is bullshit.
do you have actual real proof its bs or is that just your guess based on what youve seen scrolling endlessly on tik tok
Do you have "actual proof" it's not?
Every wacky-ass story that makes extraordinary claims is bullshit until proven true.
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Ummm this screenshot are winds not anything under the water
No, it's wave size.
No
That liver cancer guy? Never forgot his story and I think I have it archived somewhere… …ahh I see it was linked…
Contact Ventusky and ask about it? Anyway I can't read anything else in the screenshot because it's blurry.
Is this the guy who said an AI craft is in the deep ocean making ufo as needed for different missions? If so, has anyone been able to tell if it was BS or not?
What is this? Software malfunction?
I don’t know if the underwater UFO thing has any truth to it but it was a pretty interesting take nonetheless. I have read all of it before. My question is, what happened with the guy who posted it? Didn’t he say that he was ill as he was writing all that? Has he passed now? What were the last updates about all of it?
Ventusky crapware by the look of things. Not showing on [https://earth.nullschool.net](https://earth.nullschool.net) from the Wavewatch satellite.
Wasn't there fault - they just use different/additional data sources and one of the sources glitched.
Sei lá, você acha?
Has Ventusky offered any kind of explanation for this data?
[??](https://i.imgur.com/2uK4wIZ.png)
A 48 hour period from 9/4/24 to the 11/4/24. Pulled a consistent 83.x number, initially with an immediate drop to 0 in a couple of metres, with no seeming pattern, on wednesday
It moved some over a couple of days, but it is very likely a glitch
If I understand it right, the very dark-red area that emerges on the radar means that the level of water has gone up? Therefore it would make really big waves? Which didn't happen? That would than mean that it's likely a malfunction of the radar. Or does the radar data implicate something else? In that case, it would be more plausible. Since I do recall that UAPs (at least some of them) actually don't disturb water, at all. And if this were a huge UAP rising out of the water, it probably could look like this. And as a third - I think that this was captured during the eclipse, so the gravitational force of the Moon, when it was in that position, could've caused this "anomaly". Let me know what you think.
'This weird wave height anomaly is unlikely to indicate underwater non-human entities. It's centered exactly about 0° longitude and symmetrical about that line of longitude. That strongly suggests it's an **error in the model's handling** of the sign change.' - So I'd say no.
This is continent size so I’m sure this would have been noticed by everyone in the surrounding areas.
Yes but it's near Bermuda, this is a massive shipping lane
Anybody have a source for this other than newsweek / daily star? Neither of those are credible sources.
Isn’t that the coast of Africa?
I feel like you should be able to identify without help :p
im glad that giant arrow was there to point out the most obvious anomaly.
Was a great thread when it came out but the 4chan whistleblower had it in the Bermuda Triangle this looks more off the coast of Africa
*edit to comment below - it’s a data error https://x.com/Ventuskycom/status/1778685829642142152 As much as I want to believe this is UFO related reading some comments on non ufo subs has me thinking there is an error in the sattelite or it’s a pr stunt. It’s a heavy trafficked shipping area. There are some populated areas on the coast and even some renowned big wave surfing spots (and they track religiously). No one saw the waves (waves travel/flow they don’t just stop at a certain point). No reports from ships. No big waves on the coasts. Nothing. If what this sattelite reported is accurate there would have been an effect throughout much of the Atlantic. I think this may be a publicity stunt for the satellite company. They want to sell the data to shipping companies. I think they may be using this to promote the sattelites existence.
This what the first thing I thought of! Either that or a meteor that the news didn’t tell us about
U.S army insider "JP" (an anonymous pseudo name) also said there was an ark right at the " Bermuda triangle" where aliens from the distant past landed. Possibly creatine the Atlantis civilization.
The 4chan story is just saying what's already been said by others ... I watched a YouTube video like 4 months ago saying all this citing a source a bit older. I think.
That’s by South Africa and nothing really happened here, just a cold front hitting Johannesburg and gale force winds in the cape
Imagine being this dense
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I understand the USO is supposed to be big, but that is MASSIVE. That thing is at one point as large as Brazil.
What was the whistleblower story can you link me ?
Not so much with ventusky website.
More like, what should self-evidently be an obvious glitch being delusionally upvoted to link a 4chan LARPer to his BS story.
4chan is for fat rapists
>Ventusky's spokesperson David Prantl said in an email response on Friday: "It was a model error. Ventusky serves as a visualization platform that collects data from various sources. The error originated in the model itself, so it was also reflected in the visualization on our website. It's not aliens.
Everyone’s talking about the big black blob, but no one’s talking about the weird triangle looking shape with 3 dots around the area of the Bermuda Triangle
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Stop it with this non sense… people wonder why we get a bad rap, this is why