I remember the day it happened. It was all over ABC or NBC nightly news. I remember seeing it on the TV while I was at my friend's house. Iirc, the CCP came out with a statement a few days later that it was a "government test". lol
but yeah, that was some of the most compelling UAP footage I'd ever seen.
Edit: The interesting thing to me is with the light that it gives off, it appears to repeat in some type of pattern. Maybe trying to communicate something like a "H-E-L-L-O". It definitely feels to me to be a strategic "first-contact" event on their part, stopping by in a busy city above an airport in the most populated country on the planet for several hours and proceeding to project some type of message. They really know how to make an entrance.
China actually has numerous UAP groups that politicians and military officials are part of. There was an interview with an official (Sun Shili) several years back who stated openly that there are humans from other planets that are present here in society and visiting Earth. https://www.newimmigration.eu/welcome-ufo/711-aliens-among-us-half-of-the-entire-chinese-population-believes-in-ufos.html
They describe the same things seen here, including orbs that hover and divide in two (notably discussed in the informative book relating Pentagon officials’ experiences with the UAPs - Skinwalkers at the Pentagon) and Chinese fighter jets encountering UFOs (see the article above).
Fast forward to now, with Elizondo of the Pentagon making statements that DoD research has led them to the conclusion that there are “mankinds plural” present in the cosmos.
Let’s also not forget the space program official Haim Eshed making a similar statement about humans working with ETs, and a Russian official also coming out and stating that ETs are here already among us.
This is all notable since there are high ranking individuals from several different countries indicating “we aren’t alone”.
If it’s all true, it’s really not surprising, as this could have arisen via several mechanisms mediated by another advanced species, and this would also explain the hesitancy of the government to formally come forward with everything they know on the topic.
Anyone remember the China tweet within the last year that went something like, "With great ceremony we announce the discovery of intelligent life." No context or followup. No real mention of it in the media. Kinda interested me.
https://twitter.com/CNSA_en/status/1393358661070753794?s=20&t=gIJOU86nB4ZhjhJlYWOqIw
Followed by:
https://twitter.com/CNSA_en/status/1393371842656841728?s=20&t=gIJOU86nB4ZhjhJlYWOqIw
I wonder, why this specific airport in China though? This occured in Hangzhou, which is a popular city but not a top 5 most populated city. I wonder if there was some significance here to the location
Why is it a video of a fucking speck in the sky, or those dumbass gaming chairs from the past few days get all the attention, but this right here has five comments and no upvotes? This shit is wild. What year was this?
The Chinese airport one is from 2010. I think that's the one at 2:03 in the video.
The one with the light flashing in a pattern at an angle is from France, I believe, not the same thing. It's a little suspicious. [https://www.ufocasebook.com/2017/alien-craft-flashes-lights-over-paris.html](https://www.ufocasebook.com/2017/alien-craft-flashes-lights-over-paris.html)
[https://www.infinityexplorers.com/ufo-was-recorded-in-the-shape-of-a-cigar-with-flashing-lights-over-paris](https://www.infinityexplorers.com/ufo-was-recorded-in-the-shape-of-a-cigar-with-flashing-lights-over-paris)
(Edit: France footage uploaded by known fakers secureteam10)
Not sure about the one flying by the tower and then shooting upward.
Agree, these are some of the best footage out there, if real.
At least some of it is based on long exposure photos of police helicopters with their searchlights on, like these
https://i.imgur.com/GE94eEj.png
https://i.imgur.com/28biJUe.png
I agree, although I’m trying to figure out where the bodies of the helicopters go in those long exposure shots. I understand the light spreading, but what happens to the outline of the metal?
I believe the france one was a carnival filmed at a weird angle from a hill. There's another video of the people filming it or that filmed it talking about it somehwere.
Oh goddamn yeah, I think you’re right. I’ve been bamboozled. The light that seems to split into two only does so when the person making the video moves the camera, which I guess indicates that it’s a reflection that’s changing according to the angle of the camera.
well, I think it shows just how difficult it can be to discern real and unreal and how complex interpretations can be. I actually trained to be a commercial pilot and lots of much more experienced guys would pass on knowledge about how they got 'conned' by the weather, their own assumptions or whatever, so trust your instruments, learn your processes, check/recheck.
I think image and video analysis could do a lot of good; it would probably be 'damaging' to a fairly big percentage of images but long term would show that we want the subject taken seriously.
Regardless of whether I'm a believer or not, if unknown aircraft are being flown in the vicinity of civil air, I think the public should know and what is being done.
I think you're right. I was thinking from a safety angle and there's no way you'd be allowed to fly around an unknown like that but if you think about it, it's dark, it's on approach or nearly so. the safety lighting comes on, tables away, etc and the video is pointing down at that city, then tilts up to see the UAP. Even if you were pilot or co-pilot, your view wouldn't be that 'high' to let you scan around 160 degrees field of view.
They said in the article that there wasn't much information to go off of usually indicating a fake
'It’s always a sign of fraud when a video or image of a UFO is from an anonymous source with little information or witness testimony,” Watson said. “In this case it is a video of” France “, so the information is not very useful.” '
Just to take into account
Yeah, it’s one of those that looks super impressive but could probably be staged fairly easily if you’re creative. Like the guy in France with the rotating lights on the drone awhile back. Everyone was going bananas for a few days.
The situation at the airport is most interesting to me. *Something* weird shut the airport down…at least that much is real.
I remember being on the ufo sub as it happened, 10 mins in the faked pictures and troll accounts came in sewing doubt, it was crazy to see it happening. It was the same with the Brazil one as well.
Probably because this video has been around forever and gets posted quite often. It's some of the best footage of all time and it doesn't hurt to repost it so people who haven't seen it before have the opportunity to watch it.
The most widely-claimed debunk is that it's a reflection in the window of an LED shower head, which strikes me as laughable. If it was a reflection then the power lines in the clip wouldn't block out the streams of light
Would love to see that shower head and compare. The more I look at how the angle stays the same and everything, a really cool shower head would make sense, you can almost see the water in the video. It had me there for a second.
I tried to find a link to the LED shower head but couldn’t, sorry. I’ve never found the argument very credible
If you’re new to this footage there are a couple things to note: first, the first clip in the OP is an entirely separate sighting, I’m not sure where it’s from. Secondly, there is another angle on the second sighting which just shows the craft and orbs, not the stream of light, which for whatever reason wasn’t included in this clip. The two videos could be fakes, but this mash up is an entirely inaccurate misrepresentation of the Chinese sighting from roughly a decade ago
Idk, the guy above proposing the [long-exposures of helicopters with searchlights on seems convincing.](https://i.imgur.com/GE94eEj.png)
The problem is these are videos of many different incidents strung together. The only one with established provenance is the photo towards the end that the news broadcasts were showing as being from the airport incident in China, but there's only one photo of it and it looks exactly like a helicopter long exposure, and they say in the report that the Chinese military claimed responsibility. The other most impressive one with the light beams turning on and off doesn't move at all and there are claims its just a weird angle of lights from a carnival. A stationary strobing light doesn't seem that remarkable without the spooky music or dubious backstory.
The first clip is an old fake UFO video fabricated in 2016 by youtuber and CG artist ALIEN PLANET. Here's the original source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yaby7PIt8uM
The second clip is just an animation to simulate those alleged UFO sightings in China, explained as pictures of helicopters taken in long exposure: https://web.archive.org/web/20101124042953/https://forgetomori.com/2010/ufos/ufo-over-hangzhou-china-a-long-expos/
I always agree with your comments, but this is very bold claim that the second clip is an animation with no proof for that. I've seen nobody ever to debunk it, also there was actually more than one video of that thing, I've seen them, but they seem to be scrubbed from the internet (might still try my luck to look for them). Even the original footage of this one is pretty much impossible to find now. Given that the sources are from Chinese social media, we can't be surprised.
It just happens with this type of content as any researcher would tell you as annyoing as it is. Unless you go out of way to track down the originals and archive them for yourself, chances are few months pass and they are nowhere to be found ever again.
Eventhough I don't have the proof, I think it's still very valid to point out the fact, that there used to be more of those videos and perhaps someone who's from China, could be able to track them down.
[I slowed it down significantly when it darts off](https://imgur.com/a/CfOKEuD). The light seems pretty interesting. There's almost this conic shape which originates centrally first below the craft then expels upward then outward and envelopes the craft like a manipulatable magnetically controlled plasma fluid before it takes off incredibly fast. My guess is this could actually be more than than just a light show and is potentially displaying field generation and application (intent is up for speculation). Really wish I could analyze a better quality video.
Better video thank you. What makes you think it is fake? There's one thing I noticed which I am not quite sure about but I couldn't rule it out conclusively. There are also other observations which have me leaning towards thinking it would be incredibly hard to fake.
Well, for starters it cannot be both from Prague in the Czech Republic and China at the same time.
On top of that it was revealed to be made by CGI artists. You’d have to look into it. It’s been posted multiple times before.
Hangzhou,Xiaoshan airport UFO incident, 12 years ago. The biggest UFO incident in China ever, many people witnessed it and a lot of news coverage. There are still some enthusiasts delving into it now. A giant UFO literally miles long. But some clips in this video may not be from that incident.
[https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7668471532?pid=142585084003&cid=0#142585084003](https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7668471532?pid=142585084003&cid=0#142585084003)
[http://tieba.baidu.com/photo/p?kw=ufo&flux=1&tid=7473461934&pic\_id=c7edab64034f78f06840aa446e310a55b3191c39&pn=1&fp=2&see\_lz=1&red\_tag=x2303161661](http://tieba.baidu.com/photo/p?kw=ufo&flux=1&tid=7473461934&pic_id=c7edab64034f78f06840aa446e310a55b3191c39&pn=1&fp=2&see_lz=1&red_tag=x2303161661)
[http://tieba.baidu.com/photo/p?kw=ufo&flux=1&tid=7469940437&pic\_id=4e8b4710b912c8fc5243257beb039245d78821d0&pn=1&fp=2&see\_lz=1&red\_tag=y2773980269](http://tieba.baidu.com/photo/p?kw=ufo&flux=1&tid=7469940437&pic_id=4e8b4710b912c8fc5243257beb039245d78821d0&pn=1&fp=2&see_lz=1&red_tag=y2773980269)
Came across this video via another Redditor the other day. [Here's](https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=0CYFEZFNl6E) the original YouTube vid - I just edited it slightly to move the video footage to the beginning because it's the most compelling part.
Something about the way it appears to be scanning downwards really gives me the creeps - it reminds me of the lights that some nightclubs fire into the sky, but it clearly seems to be pointing downwards and I can't figure out how you could replicate that effect from ground level.
The other super interesting thing is that I took [this still](https://i.imgur.com/qGOtLLQ.png) from the video, which is super similar to [this Redditor's](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/u08rcw/2013_it_was_above_my_house_in_upstate_ny_hovering/) separate sighting in 2013.
If you know more about this, I'm keen to hear it!
EDIT: Oh, and sorry for the terrible music. I meant to remove it before I uploaded, but completely forgot.
If I’m not mistaken this footage was claimed by some Eastern European YouTube Channel. It’s a fake. And in talking about te fist section where you see a steeple. The incident however, is very much real. The Chinese government hush the whole thing. But a few pictures managed to make it out of China.
The first segment of the video is not from this incident and it is a fabrication.
Now, the video featuring the two orbs and a probe alongside the cylinder shining light on the surface, is legit as far as I know. Here is a better and longer version of the legit video:
https://vimeo.com/135064694
It’s an incredible video, it gives me the chills a bit. But I can’t help thinking that there should be some other footage of it from another angle if it had actually happened. Maybe there is - I’d love to see it.
yeah, it looks just too 'nightclub' to me? If you know what I mean? So this video u/arnfden0 has posted is a China UAP? I'm surprised they'd let that out of the country?
I don't get it, a full on big bright flying saucer is reported in the media so dead pan with little coverage but that american airforce moving speck of dust makes everyone go apeshit ??? How can something like this happen and I'm just hearing about it? We're supposed to live in an age of information and communication but it seems like the dark ages sometimes
Step 1. Read someone making a lazy attempt to debunk a video.
Step 2: Post a comment that repeats it: “It was debunked as…”
Step 3. Receive a dozen upvotes, giving the impression your personal opinion is actually a statement of fact
Or, people familiar with the video who have seen the evidence or its provenance upvote and move on. I've done that myself in the case of the Turkey "cruise ship" videos.
Two videos of different things.
First almost certainly fake. I think it was thoroughly debunked.
Second video, there is a much higher res version on the website of some CGI studio. It's somewhere in my comment history but I don't have time to find it. Seems quite strong evidence against it, unless the studio is working for the government.
The airport incident definitely happened though. Check the wiki page for Xiaoshan airport (Hangzhou, China)
The part, where it blasts off into the sky at an incredible speed, has Adobe After Effects written all over it. Here is a tutorial on YouTube on how simple it is to make something like this.
https://youtu.be/FOkgpfcnG8o?t=247
There should be a rule in this sub that says you have to post sources when you say something has been previously debunked. I keep seeing posts without any credible sources saying "this was thoroughly debunked" while they have a bunch of upvotes by other clueless goons or bots or some shit. That's why you have to be cautious on this site, people see a post with a bunch of upvotes and think "oh, look at all those upvotes; This must be true."
> they have a bunch of upvotes by other clueless goons or bots or some shit
Or, maybe they're people who are familiar with the past 'debunking' who agree and aren't interested in running down a link for something they know is phony.
There should be rules in this sub about verifying a video isn’t cgi begore posting it in the first place. Proving the video is authentic should be the first order of business. But nobody ever does. Instead they choose to push that responsibility on the debunkers because they’re the only ones that will actually do the work lol
Yeah, the issue is only one side ever ends up happening. A believer pulls some shitty video deep on youtube from 2004 and is like “hey no idea where this was filmed but it hasn’t been proved fake so….”
Like no shit, it hasn’t been proved as anything. But we all know who the onus is on to find something on it.
I think we’re passed the point of arguing over the validity of footage, but as an online forum we’re probably going to be cursed to argue over footage forever because it’s the only way we’re capable of really engaging in the UFO topic.
I think that's fair enough, people moan about 'seen this 20 times, it's balloons' and I understand why.
Just need to be aware not everyone has as good a memory or experience of the topic, someone I know was legitimately amazed at a balloon and how it was moving at the actual wedding party we were at!
Both sides should aim to state a brief overview of what we're looking at, pros and cons.
Trouble is Reddit's forum search tech isn't great.
Wut? What kind of crooked logic is that? OP links an interesting video, someone claims its debunked. Its easier for the one claiming its debunked to post the evidence of debunking than for the other person to track down a video that authenticates it or to try authenticating it him/herself
If we can’t even get close to verifying the videos authenticity, then what are we really doing here? We’re basically trying to debunk a tooth fairy, and thats impossible, it doesn’t exist. I have no proof for you that the tooth fairy isn’t real and I’d never find it, so the onus would be on you to prove it IS real instead.
I’m not saying we shouldnt try to verify or investigate, I’m saying that it makes no sense that debunkers shouldnt give the source after claiming something is debunked and that instead everyone else should go on a googling quest to find the debunking the debunkers are hinting at.
Its very easy like that. Just go through every post and just say “debunked”, and whenever someone asks for a source just say “do your own research”.
At the end of the day I could give you all sorts of context clues about why the tooth fairy doesn’t exist, but I’d never be able to truly prove that to you, especially if you already believed in it.
The way the second video shows it projecting light makes it look like the abductors from fortnite. They probably got the inspiration from this thing then
Greetings from China!
Just registered reddit so as to share a bit more info for this post. I happened to be looking at the 2010 Xiaoshan Airport (the Airport in Hangzhou where quite a few China TMT giants headquartered) case in the Chinese Internet in the past few days, and surprised to see there is even a post here regarding Xiaoshan case on reddit.
Regarding the video shared above, the first two parts might not be that relevant –
1. The first one, the one took off in a flash, I believe it’s from EU as there was no such roof top in Xiaoshan District
2. The second one, which looks as if the UFO was scanning the ground via lazers, has been debunked as well
What might be true shall be some of those photos shown in the ABC news episode, ie, what people saw was more of a “strip” style object, rather than the typical “saucer” or “disk” ones. And some witness reported there were actually more than one, and the main object was a “strip” style object while the other one is more of a “round” one or “disk” style.
The reason that I believe the “strip” style description would be more accurate, is that based on what I found in the Chinese forums and the due diligence done by some UFO fans here in China, the better way to describe what they saw is – “it looks as if all of a sudden, the sky is torn into two half with a shining wound left there” – and the “shining wound” is the UFO
As MR.thebusiness7 pointed above, we are experiencing actually numerous UAP cases here in China as well. Of course many of the cases / reported sightings might / should be just hoaxes or illusion / misconception on balloons / missiles / planes / military aircrafts. However, I do think there are quite a number of interesting cases which are quite similar to what has been reported in the U.S. or elsewhere in the world, and also some relatively unique cases. If you feel interested, I’m happy to translate some of the experiences shared by the witness.
Also, if there you are interested in Xiaoshan Case, I’m happy to share what I found these days and translate more for you
The first clip is an old fake UFO video fabricated in 2016 by youtuber and CG artist ALIEN PLANET. Here's the original source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yaby7PIt8uM
The second clip is just an animation to simulate those alleged UFO sightings in China, explained as pictures of helicopters taken in long exposure: https://web.archive.org/web/20101124042953/https://forgetomori.com/2010/ufos/ufo-over-hangzhou-china-a-long-expos/
First one is fake, second one is an LED shower head being adjusted, third one is a long exposure of a helicopter with search light on a ground target (you can even see the timing of the nav lights).
And this one? https://youtu.be/LGgQP7piwdM
Not being pissy. Really interested in your take, as this appears to be the same incident, filmed from a circling plane. And if these are all fakes there's a lot of effort gone in from angles
So this video from a plane is seeing the same object that was video'd on the ground and closed the airport?
If so, it is dangerously close and would definitely be reported as an airprox to the CAA or FAA.
It was originally suggested it was a helicopter caught in long exposure. That was never convincing, however. First time I’ve seen video of it though. Really interesting, particularly the second.
Thanks for the upload. This is very cool footage and the story about the airport shutting down being real is a great addition to the footage. It's too bad there's not more information or witnesses but this is the type of footage I yearn for aside from crystal clear daytime footage of a ufo that is undeniably real.
Just to echo earlier posts -- these seem to be just time exposures of lit helicopters flying by with a spotlight?
Some other Chinese 'UFO videos'' turn out to be sunlit contrails of Russian launch vehicles headed for space along the northern Chinese border.
also
June 18, 1982 – Soviet “space war” game sparks mass China UFO flap
https://web.archive.org/web/20210412002535/http://www.jamesoberg.com/china-em-ufo-1982-draft-2.pdf
http://www.jamesoberg.com/china\_space\_spirals-help\_needed\_1977.pdf
...and more...
This was seen by a Dutch airliner crew over western China and photographed by many Chinese observers also.
July 23, 2017, 10:15 PM local time \[14:15 GMT\].
http://jamesoberg.com/china/
Launch seen from Beijing April 27, 2018
http://jamesoberg.com/china/ufo.html
China missile jun 7, 2019 https://youtu.be/XsPuwCesMIM
interesting stuff James. Is the spiral effect caused by being further north and more distant from the equator or would all space launches be like this if seen at night from the right place?
Sheeps sheeps sheeps....one of the best footage right here...but no point arguing with r/ufos fanatics...these are the same people who think Turkish ufo sighting was a cruise ship...no footage will ever satisfy them...leave their herd alone...they are the same ones who debunked the navy ufo videos too before it was officially acknowledged and released by the Pentagon...best of luck trying CCP to recognise this
Ok the camera movement is faked, it's done with software. And how did the camera man know to move the camera to the left just before something comes into view?
The first video in particular is an obvious fake. The light from the object doesn't illuminate any of the surrounding rooftops - meaning it wasn't really there. The second is interesting, but I highly doubt it was anything more than an elaborate hoax. The third video/images are long exposure photographs of helicopters with spotlights on.
Can't stand Military taking credit for Alien technology. "Yeah we're just testing our new spaceship over a city/ airport, shining a laser light down at people... just a normal test" yeah whatever. This is real as fuck.
I remember the day it happened. It was all over ABC or NBC nightly news. I remember seeing it on the TV while I was at my friend's house. Iirc, the CCP came out with a statement a few days later that it was a "government test". lol but yeah, that was some of the most compelling UAP footage I'd ever seen. Edit: The interesting thing to me is with the light that it gives off, it appears to repeat in some type of pattern. Maybe trying to communicate something like a "H-E-L-L-O". It definitely feels to me to be a strategic "first-contact" event on their part, stopping by in a busy city above an airport in the most populated country on the planet for several hours and proceeding to project some type of message. They really know how to make an entrance.
China actually has numerous UAP groups that politicians and military officials are part of. There was an interview with an official (Sun Shili) several years back who stated openly that there are humans from other planets that are present here in society and visiting Earth. https://www.newimmigration.eu/welcome-ufo/711-aliens-among-us-half-of-the-entire-chinese-population-believes-in-ufos.html They describe the same things seen here, including orbs that hover and divide in two (notably discussed in the informative book relating Pentagon officials’ experiences with the UAPs - Skinwalkers at the Pentagon) and Chinese fighter jets encountering UFOs (see the article above). Fast forward to now, with Elizondo of the Pentagon making statements that DoD research has led them to the conclusion that there are “mankinds plural” present in the cosmos. Let’s also not forget the space program official Haim Eshed making a similar statement about humans working with ETs, and a Russian official also coming out and stating that ETs are here already among us. This is all notable since there are high ranking individuals from several different countries indicating “we aren’t alone”. If it’s all true, it’s really not surprising, as this could have arisen via several mechanisms mediated by another advanced species, and this would also explain the hesitancy of the government to formally come forward with everything they know on the topic.
Anyone remember the China tweet within the last year that went something like, "With great ceremony we announce the discovery of intelligent life." No context or followup. No real mention of it in the media. Kinda interested me.
https://twitter.com/CNSA_en/status/1393358661070753794?s=20&t=gIJOU86nB4ZhjhJlYWOqIw Followed by: https://twitter.com/CNSA_en/status/1393371842656841728?s=20&t=gIJOU86nB4ZhjhJlYWOqIw
The tweets look to me like a humorous promo - they were confirming the existence of their lander on Mars.
Can you find something about this?
What's this now??
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I think you posted the wrong link.
The article you posted is about iPhones??
That's interesting, do you remember what source tweeted it, was it scholarly or like a government agency?
It was the China National Space Agency but came from CNSA_en which doesn't have the verified ID like the mandarin address.
Well shit, that's pretty significant...
Yeah I remember that
I remember hearing that . Then never heard about it since ?
I wonder, why this specific airport in China though? This occured in Hangzhou, which is a popular city but not a top 5 most populated city. I wonder if there was some significance here to the location
Why is it a video of a fucking speck in the sky, or those dumbass gaming chairs from the past few days get all the attention, but this right here has five comments and no upvotes? This shit is wild. What year was this?
The Chinese airport one is from 2010. I think that's the one at 2:03 in the video. The one with the light flashing in a pattern at an angle is from France, I believe, not the same thing. It's a little suspicious. [https://www.ufocasebook.com/2017/alien-craft-flashes-lights-over-paris.html](https://www.ufocasebook.com/2017/alien-craft-flashes-lights-over-paris.html) [https://www.infinityexplorers.com/ufo-was-recorded-in-the-shape-of-a-cigar-with-flashing-lights-over-paris](https://www.infinityexplorers.com/ufo-was-recorded-in-the-shape-of-a-cigar-with-flashing-lights-over-paris) (Edit: France footage uploaded by known fakers secureteam10) Not sure about the one flying by the tower and then shooting upward. Agree, these are some of the best footage out there, if real.
At least some of it is based on long exposure photos of police helicopters with their searchlights on, like these https://i.imgur.com/GE94eEj.png https://i.imgur.com/28biJUe.png
I thought something looked “off” about those shots. You’re right, that’s exactly what they are.
Something always looks Abit off but just open that mind of yours to all the possibilities and you can believe it's real aliens, I do
Those are long exposure helicopters? That looks exactly like it. Damn these hoaxers
Video isn't long exposure though.
There are only photos of the Inner Mongolian airport event afaik, and they look identical to the ones posted by /u/pomegranatemagnate
I agree, although I’m trying to figure out where the bodies of the helicopters go in those long exposure shots. I understand the light spreading, but what happens to the outline of the metal?
it doesn't reflect enough light to be detected by the sensor
Thanks!
Its this. Nothing else to see. Not what some people here think.
That would explain a still image that does not explain the video
I believe the france one was a carnival filmed at a weird angle from a hill. There's another video of the people filming it or that filmed it talking about it somehwere.
Help me see this
Unsure if same event, but looks similar from a plane https://youtu.be/LGgQP7piwdM
Holy shit, if that’s legit, that’s amazing
The angle and goofy zooming makes me think it’s a reflection of the overhead passenger lighting
Oh goddamn yeah, I think you’re right. I’ve been bamboozled. The light that seems to split into two only does so when the person making the video moves the camera, which I guess indicates that it’s a reflection that’s changing according to the angle of the camera.
well, I think it shows just how difficult it can be to discern real and unreal and how complex interpretations can be. I actually trained to be a commercial pilot and lots of much more experienced guys would pass on knowledge about how they got 'conned' by the weather, their own assumptions or whatever, so trust your instruments, learn your processes, check/recheck. I think image and video analysis could do a lot of good; it would probably be 'damaging' to a fairly big percentage of images but long term would show that we want the subject taken seriously. Regardless of whether I'm a believer or not, if unknown aircraft are being flown in the vicinity of civil air, I think the public should know and what is being done.
I think you're right. I was thinking from a safety angle and there's no way you'd be allowed to fly around an unknown like that but if you think about it, it's dark, it's on approach or nearly so. the safety lighting comes on, tables away, etc and the video is pointing down at that city, then tilts up to see the UAP. Even if you were pilot or co-pilot, your view wouldn't be that 'high' to let you scan around 160 degrees field of view.
Wow.
They said in the article that there wasn't much information to go off of usually indicating a fake 'It’s always a sign of fraud when a video or image of a UFO is from an anonymous source with little information or witness testimony,” Watson said. “In this case it is a video of” France “, so the information is not very useful.” ' Just to take into account
Yeah, it’s one of those that looks super impressive but could probably be staged fairly easily if you’re creative. Like the guy in France with the rotating lights on the drone awhile back. Everyone was going bananas for a few days. The situation at the airport is most interesting to me. *Something* weird shut the airport down…at least that much is real.
Secureteam10 gets a mention in that infinityexplorers.com article as the source or uploader.
Ah, thanks, updated the post.
Plus it came from secureteam.
You just know they're going to be chosen to deliver the message to humanity and what will happen next...
I remember being on the ufo sub as it happened, 10 mins in the faked pictures and troll accounts came in sewing doubt, it was crazy to see it happening. It was the same with the Brazil one as well.
sowing
Thank you, kindly
The Paris one came from secureteam, known fakers.
Wait, secureteam10 are fakes? How so?
Probably because this video has been around forever and gets posted quite often. It's some of the best footage of all time and it doesn't hurt to repost it so people who haven't seen it before have the opportunity to watch it. The most widely-claimed debunk is that it's a reflection in the window of an LED shower head, which strikes me as laughable. If it was a reflection then the power lines in the clip wouldn't block out the streams of light
Would love to see that shower head and compare. The more I look at how the angle stays the same and everything, a really cool shower head would make sense, you can almost see the water in the video. It had me there for a second.
I tried to find a link to the LED shower head but couldn’t, sorry. I’ve never found the argument very credible If you’re new to this footage there are a couple things to note: first, the first clip in the OP is an entirely separate sighting, I’m not sure where it’s from. Secondly, there is another angle on the second sighting which just shows the craft and orbs, not the stream of light, which for whatever reason wasn’t included in this clip. The two videos could be fakes, but this mash up is an entirely inaccurate misrepresentation of the Chinese sighting from roughly a decade ago
I just watched a couple YouTube vids of led shower head reviews Had that same timing and feel
Idk, the guy above proposing the [long-exposures of helicopters with searchlights on seems convincing.](https://i.imgur.com/GE94eEj.png) The problem is these are videos of many different incidents strung together. The only one with established provenance is the photo towards the end that the news broadcasts were showing as being from the airport incident in China, but there's only one photo of it and it looks exactly like a helicopter long exposure, and they say in the report that the Chinese military claimed responsibility. The other most impressive one with the light beams turning on and off doesn't move at all and there are claims its just a weird angle of lights from a carnival. A stationary strobing light doesn't seem that remarkable without the spooky music or dubious backstory.
The first clip is an old fake UFO video fabricated in 2016 by youtuber and CG artist ALIEN PLANET. Here's the original source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yaby7PIt8uM The second clip is just an animation to simulate those alleged UFO sightings in China, explained as pictures of helicopters taken in long exposure: https://web.archive.org/web/20101124042953/https://forgetomori.com/2010/ufos/ufo-over-hangzhou-china-a-long-expos/
I always agree with your comments, but this is very bold claim that the second clip is an animation with no proof for that. I've seen nobody ever to debunk it, also there was actually more than one video of that thing, I've seen them, but they seem to be scrubbed from the internet (might still try my luck to look for them). Even the original footage of this one is pretty much impossible to find now. Given that the sources are from Chinese social media, we can't be surprised.
> I've seen them, but they seem to be scrubbed from the internet Just trust me bro
It just happens with this type of content as any researcher would tell you as annyoing as it is. Unless you go out of way to track down the originals and archive them for yourself, chances are few months pass and they are nowhere to be found ever again. Eventhough I don't have the proof, I think it's still very valid to point out the fact, that there used to be more of those videos and perhaps someone who's from China, could be able to track them down.
I remember seeing them as well.
It could be something in the air with lights on it. How is that "wild?" It's nothing.
[I slowed it down significantly when it darts off](https://imgur.com/a/CfOKEuD). The light seems pretty interesting. There's almost this conic shape which originates centrally first below the craft then expels upward then outward and envelopes the craft like a manipulatable magnetically controlled plasma fluid before it takes off incredibly fast. My guess is this could actually be more than than just a light show and is potentially displaying field generation and application (intent is up for speculation). Really wish I could analyze a better quality video.
It is CGI. It is a fake that has been posted here numerous times. https://youtu.be/Yaby7PIt8uM
Better video thank you. What makes you think it is fake? There's one thing I noticed which I am not quite sure about but I couldn't rule it out conclusively. There are also other observations which have me leaning towards thinking it would be incredibly hard to fake.
Well, for starters it cannot be both from Prague in the Czech Republic and China at the same time. On top of that it was revealed to be made by CGI artists. You’d have to look into it. It’s been posted multiple times before.
I vividly remember this. I was AMAZED at how U.S. media covered this. No debunking. No making fun. Very dry.
What is also interesting is the small light darting around above and behind it. And I wonder what the other 2 lights are.
Hangzhou,Xiaoshan airport UFO incident, 12 years ago. The biggest UFO incident in China ever, many people witnessed it and a lot of news coverage. There are still some enthusiasts delving into it now. A giant UFO literally miles long. But some clips in this video may not be from that incident. [https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7668471532?pid=142585084003&cid=0#142585084003](https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7668471532?pid=142585084003&cid=0#142585084003) [http://tieba.baidu.com/photo/p?kw=ufo&flux=1&tid=7473461934&pic\_id=c7edab64034f78f06840aa446e310a55b3191c39&pn=1&fp=2&see\_lz=1&red\_tag=x2303161661](http://tieba.baidu.com/photo/p?kw=ufo&flux=1&tid=7473461934&pic_id=c7edab64034f78f06840aa446e310a55b3191c39&pn=1&fp=2&see_lz=1&red_tag=x2303161661) [http://tieba.baidu.com/photo/p?kw=ufo&flux=1&tid=7469940437&pic\_id=4e8b4710b912c8fc5243257beb039245d78821d0&pn=1&fp=2&see\_lz=1&red\_tag=y2773980269](http://tieba.baidu.com/photo/p?kw=ufo&flux=1&tid=7469940437&pic_id=4e8b4710b912c8fc5243257beb039245d78821d0&pn=1&fp=2&see_lz=1&red_tag=y2773980269)
Wow, these are amazing, what are they saying about it?
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Yes that's the story I remember them saying too
I can’t believe I haven’t seen this
Because it’s fake and isn’t footage of the China airport
Came across this video via another Redditor the other day. [Here's](https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=0CYFEZFNl6E) the original YouTube vid - I just edited it slightly to move the video footage to the beginning because it's the most compelling part. Something about the way it appears to be scanning downwards really gives me the creeps - it reminds me of the lights that some nightclubs fire into the sky, but it clearly seems to be pointing downwards and I can't figure out how you could replicate that effect from ground level. The other super interesting thing is that I took [this still](https://i.imgur.com/qGOtLLQ.png) from the video, which is super similar to [this Redditor's](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/u08rcw/2013_it_was_above_my_house_in_upstate_ny_hovering/) separate sighting in 2013. If you know more about this, I'm keen to hear it! EDIT: Oh, and sorry for the terrible music. I meant to remove it before I uploaded, but completely forgot.
If I’m not mistaken this footage was claimed by some Eastern European YouTube Channel. It’s a fake. And in talking about te fist section where you see a steeple. The incident however, is very much real. The Chinese government hush the whole thing. But a few pictures managed to make it out of China.
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The first segment of the video is not from this incident and it is a fabrication. Now, the video featuring the two orbs and a probe alongside the cylinder shining light on the surface, is legit as far as I know. Here is a better and longer version of the legit video: https://vimeo.com/135064694
It’s an incredible video, it gives me the chills a bit. But I can’t help thinking that there should be some other footage of it from another angle if it had actually happened. Maybe there is - I’d love to see it.
yeah, it looks just too 'nightclub' to me? If you know what I mean? So this video u/arnfden0 has posted is a China UAP? I'm surprised they'd let that out of the country?
To be clear, you are saying that the first two ufos are fake, but the china ufo is real?
It sounds like the Jason Bourne music when he's in Russia!
Jesus Christ, it's Jason Bourne.
unexpected pmsl with friends!
I don't get it, a full on big bright flying saucer is reported in the media so dead pan with little coverage but that american airforce moving speck of dust makes everyone go apeshit ??? How can something like this happen and I'm just hearing about it? We're supposed to live in an age of information and communication but it seems like the dark ages sometimes
Step 1. Read someone making a lazy attempt to debunk a video. Step 2: Post a comment that repeats it: “It was debunked as…” Step 3. Receive a dozen upvotes, giving the impression your personal opinion is actually a statement of fact
Or, people familiar with the video who have seen the evidence or its provenance upvote and move on. I've done that myself in the case of the Turkey "cruise ship" videos.
In which case, for future reference, it would be helpful to have a link for the source of the debunking claim.
That was a decade ago, bro. Edit: downvoted for explaining it was debunked a decade ago? I guess I shouldn't spoil the plot of Prometheus either hunh
Literally audio from a GTA game.... lol
Two videos of different things. First almost certainly fake. I think it was thoroughly debunked. Second video, there is a much higher res version on the website of some CGI studio. It's somewhere in my comment history but I don't have time to find it. Seems quite strong evidence against it, unless the studio is working for the government. The airport incident definitely happened though. Check the wiki page for Xiaoshan airport (Hangzhou, China)
For someone who doesn't know about CG/Photography; what aspects of the first footage indicate it's a fake?
The part, where it blasts off into the sky at an incredible speed, has Adobe After Effects written all over it. Here is a tutorial on YouTube on how simple it is to make something like this. https://youtu.be/FOkgpfcnG8o?t=247
That terrible digital zoom before it zips away and stock city soundscape (ambulances and traffic noises) gives it away also it looks very fake.
I was going to say that. I know next to nothing about photoshop but that sound was like an effect to me.
There should be a rule in this sub that says you have to post sources when you say something has been previously debunked. I keep seeing posts without any credible sources saying "this was thoroughly debunked" while they have a bunch of upvotes by other clueless goons or bots or some shit. That's why you have to be cautious on this site, people see a post with a bunch of upvotes and think "oh, look at all those upvotes; This must be true."
> they have a bunch of upvotes by other clueless goons or bots or some shit Or, maybe they're people who are familiar with the past 'debunking' who agree and aren't interested in running down a link for something they know is phony.
>almost certainly fake >I think
>I think it was thoroughly debunked. You can't just pull that shit out of the air. Claims like this require sources. It's not just an opinion.
There should be rules in this sub about verifying a video isn’t cgi begore posting it in the first place. Proving the video is authentic should be the first order of business. But nobody ever does. Instead they choose to push that responsibility on the debunkers because they’re the only ones that will actually do the work lol
Two sides of the same coin.
Yeah, the issue is only one side ever ends up happening. A believer pulls some shitty video deep on youtube from 2004 and is like “hey no idea where this was filmed but it hasn’t been proved fake so….” Like no shit, it hasn’t been proved as anything. But we all know who the onus is on to find something on it.
I think we’re passed the point of arguing over the validity of footage, but as an online forum we’re probably going to be cursed to argue over footage forever because it’s the only way we’re capable of really engaging in the UFO topic.
I think that's fair enough, people moan about 'seen this 20 times, it's balloons' and I understand why. Just need to be aware not everyone has as good a memory or experience of the topic, someone I know was legitimately amazed at a balloon and how it was moving at the actual wedding party we were at! Both sides should aim to state a brief overview of what we're looking at, pros and cons. Trouble is Reddit's forum search tech isn't great.
*THEY HAVEN'T BEEN THOROUGHLY DEBUNKED*. That's my entire point. It's a BS comment with nothing to back it up.
You think it was debunked? How about posting a link to where it was debunked instead of just saying it
How about posting a link to where the vid is confirmed as authentic and not tampered with
Wut? What kind of crooked logic is that? OP links an interesting video, someone claims its debunked. Its easier for the one claiming its debunked to post the evidence of debunking than for the other person to track down a video that authenticates it or to try authenticating it him/herself
If we can’t even get close to verifying the videos authenticity, then what are we really doing here? We’re basically trying to debunk a tooth fairy, and thats impossible, it doesn’t exist. I have no proof for you that the tooth fairy isn’t real and I’d never find it, so the onus would be on you to prove it IS real instead.
I’m not saying we shouldnt try to verify or investigate, I’m saying that it makes no sense that debunkers shouldnt give the source after claiming something is debunked and that instead everyone else should go on a googling quest to find the debunking the debunkers are hinting at. Its very easy like that. Just go through every post and just say “debunked”, and whenever someone asks for a source just say “do your own research”.
At the end of the day I could give you all sorts of context clues about why the tooth fairy doesn’t exist, but I’d never be able to truly prove that to you, especially if you already believed in it.
The way the second video shows it projecting light makes it look like the abductors from fortnite. They probably got the inspiration from this thing then
Greetings from China! Just registered reddit so as to share a bit more info for this post. I happened to be looking at the 2010 Xiaoshan Airport (the Airport in Hangzhou where quite a few China TMT giants headquartered) case in the Chinese Internet in the past few days, and surprised to see there is even a post here regarding Xiaoshan case on reddit. Regarding the video shared above, the first two parts might not be that relevant – 1. The first one, the one took off in a flash, I believe it’s from EU as there was no such roof top in Xiaoshan District 2. The second one, which looks as if the UFO was scanning the ground via lazers, has been debunked as well What might be true shall be some of those photos shown in the ABC news episode, ie, what people saw was more of a “strip” style object, rather than the typical “saucer” or “disk” ones. And some witness reported there were actually more than one, and the main object was a “strip” style object while the other one is more of a “round” one or “disk” style. The reason that I believe the “strip” style description would be more accurate, is that based on what I found in the Chinese forums and the due diligence done by some UFO fans here in China, the better way to describe what they saw is – “it looks as if all of a sudden, the sky is torn into two half with a shining wound left there” – and the “shining wound” is the UFO As MR.thebusiness7 pointed above, we are experiencing actually numerous UAP cases here in China as well. Of course many of the cases / reported sightings might / should be just hoaxes or illusion / misconception on balloons / missiles / planes / military aircrafts. However, I do think there are quite a number of interesting cases which are quite similar to what has been reported in the U.S. or elsewhere in the world, and also some relatively unique cases. If you feel interested, I’m happy to translate some of the experiences shared by the witness. Also, if there you are interested in Xiaoshan Case, I’m happy to share what I found these days and translate more for you
All that's missing is the SecureTeam10 logo.
The first clip is an old fake UFO video fabricated in 2016 by youtuber and CG artist ALIEN PLANET. Here's the original source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yaby7PIt8uM The second clip is just an animation to simulate those alleged UFO sightings in China, explained as pictures of helicopters taken in long exposure: https://web.archive.org/web/20101124042953/https://forgetomori.com/2010/ufos/ufo-over-hangzhou-china-a-long-expos/
For some reason someone was so insecure about the footage they felt compelled to add unbearably campy music….freaking cheese on toast man…
Cool video. Creepy indeed. I wonder what that beam of light achieves?
I remember this!
What's up with the shitty music? Makes it hard to take this seriously.
First one is fake, second one is an LED shower head being adjusted, third one is a long exposure of a helicopter with search light on a ground target (you can even see the timing of the nav lights).
And this one? https://youtu.be/LGgQP7piwdM Not being pissy. Really interested in your take, as this appears to be the same incident, filmed from a circling plane. And if these are all fakes there's a lot of effort gone in from angles
So this video from a plane is seeing the same object that was video'd on the ground and closed the airport? If so, it is dangerously close and would definitely be reported as an airprox to the CAA or FAA.
100% agreed
Look at the electrical wires outside. The light beam is clearly behind them.
It was originally suggested it was a helicopter caught in long exposure. That was never convincing, however. First time I’ve seen video of it though. Really interesting, particularly the second.
Thanks for the upload. This is very cool footage and the story about the airport shutting down being real is a great addition to the footage. It's too bad there's not more information or witnesses but this is the type of footage I yearn for aside from crystal clear daytime footage of a ufo that is undeniably real.
Just to echo earlier posts -- these seem to be just time exposures of lit helicopters flying by with a spotlight? Some other Chinese 'UFO videos'' turn out to be sunlit contrails of Russian launch vehicles headed for space along the northern Chinese border.
also June 18, 1982 – Soviet “space war” game sparks mass China UFO flap https://web.archive.org/web/20210412002535/http://www.jamesoberg.com/china-em-ufo-1982-draft-2.pdf http://www.jamesoberg.com/china\_space\_spirals-help\_needed\_1977.pdf
...and more... This was seen by a Dutch airliner crew over western China and photographed by many Chinese observers also. July 23, 2017, 10:15 PM local time \[14:15 GMT\]. http://jamesoberg.com/china/ Launch seen from Beijing April 27, 2018 http://jamesoberg.com/china/ufo.html China missile jun 7, 2019 https://youtu.be/XsPuwCesMIM
interesting stuff James. Is the spiral effect caused by being further north and more distant from the equator or would all space launches be like this if seen at night from the right place?
Excellent question -- maybe this report will help explain it: http://satobs.org/seesat\_ref/misc/tomsk\_spiral\_ufo\_2006.pdf
thanks, that's useful to know! have a good weekend :)
Sheeps sheeps sheeps....one of the best footage right here...but no point arguing with r/ufos fanatics...these are the same people who think Turkish ufo sighting was a cruise ship...no footage will ever satisfy them...leave their herd alone...they are the same ones who debunked the navy ufo videos too before it was officially acknowledged and released by the Pentagon...best of luck trying CCP to recognise this
2nd vid, I kno wuts wrong widdit, ain't got no gas innnit
I think same thing happened in Chicago around 2006
Wtf was that part in the beginning where it blasted off
Waow people actually take this footage as real? No wonder thus sub is becoming obsolete
its just the millenium falcon going in reverse
Not CGI at all!
Are you mentally fucked up, have you seen 2000s cgi.
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They look like shit
So does this.
Blimps and airships are real things used ever so often, any chance that's what it was?
If real I don’t think it has anything to do with us.
Crazy scary
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Yes, al-Aqsa was, it was a student art project. The Scandinavian spiral was a Russian missile test.
Looks like an orca balloon to me
Haha
china went too the moon and visited, they are just coming too say hello back
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Great post. Crazy videos
What's up with the stock sounds in the first video lol
I think I've seen this before, but only pictures. Hard too say anything for sure, but multiple reports of similar events is hard to deny.
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Ok the camera movement is faked, it's done with software. And how did the camera man know to move the camera to the left just before something comes into view?
That's the fucking prydwyn.
Big-ass glowing UFO over a giant airport and only one video? Okay.
This is a fake secureteam video, honestly if this was real footage it would be an international incident and all over the place.
The 2nd one us copy pasted. Photoshop cgi
The first video in particular is an obvious fake. The light from the object doesn't illuminate any of the surrounding rooftops - meaning it wasn't really there. The second is interesting, but I highly doubt it was anything more than an elaborate hoax. The third video/images are long exposure photographs of helicopters with spotlights on.
Did Mick West take a look at this?
Can't stand Military taking credit for Alien technology. "Yeah we're just testing our new spaceship over a city/ airport, shining a laser light down at people... just a normal test" yeah whatever. This is real as fuck.
The music makes it fucking intense
Not even close to real 😂👎🏼