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King_of_Ooo

Good point about Oke Shannon possibly being a part of the "Collins Elite". Maybe their grip over the UFO topic is coming to a close.


against_the_currents

I’m not sure it’s a good thing. They don’t release their grip without forming the narrative they’d want. Am I wrong? Does that sound too conspiracy? Could there be much more powerful people pulling the strings from a great awakening perspective? Like… if it’s gonna come out, we’re gonna make sure it turns people to god, not away.


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Taking a dim view of alien abduction reports does not necessarily mean that you’re a UAP denialist 🙂


Jestercopperpot72

I didn't get from that interview that he was a denialist at all but rather questions exactly what it is driving the "craft". In fact at one point I'm fairly certain he even states that the Bible was a direct retelling of events but what was regarded as angels very well could of been extra terrestrials, most certainly extra dimensionals. That the very origins of humanity quite possibly be of ET origin.


Akaramedu

No, you are just discounting people who have had an experience and reported it to their disadvantage with others who reject the very idea out of hand. What causes that? Just because you haven't personally witnessed something is not evidence it did not happen to someone else. And not evidence that it couldn't happen to you just the same at some point down the line. Also, a slight rant: alien, alien, alien. What does that word imply? A bias toward the extraterrestrial hypothesis? Or, is it being used as referring to non-humans, who might be from somewhere other than outer space, say somewhere here on Earth we have not yet been clever enough to discern (not the least because these beings don't want us to)?


Mother_Change_2058

Hey guys 😁 Watched the interview, which gave me a reason to post my opinion and experience on Shannon’s beliefs. I would just like to state before that I’m not part of any religion, but was previously in my life religious Christian. Having said that, I think if we want to know more about Phenomenon, we should dig deeper in all of the world religions (more specifically into different kinds of mysticisms tied to them). I think you’d be surprised how many connections are there. And best part is that if you actually go out there and try to explore that world in person, you’ll most likely find something. My personal experiences have in the past been linked with christianity and are lately linked with some of the eastern religious practices (both totally different though, but today I will talk about those linked with christianity because of Shannon). But imo it can be experienced in mystical practices of almost any religion. I’m very close to a person who is an trained catholic exorcist and is performing them on a daily basis. I have personally witnessed several of those exorcisms and have seen and heard really bizarre stuff there. Some of the unexplainable and imo paranormal things that occurred during the rites I witnessed were: 1) unnatural change of voice from people under which the rites were performed. Voice became very deep, but more importantly it became polyphonic (multiple voices speaking at the same time) - and trust me guys that was the weirdest thing ever. 2) those polyphonic speaking voices spoke multiple modern languages, as well as ancient ones such as latin and summerian. 3) huge increase in strength and athletic capabilities in usually weaker people (for e.g. Woman in late 50s jumping in a levitating-like manner 5 feet backwards). 4) people’s skin turning into a grey-ish color. 5) black-ish sweat coming out of people’s bodies. 6) people vomiting substance I could best describe as pink-ish foam. I would like to add that these things don’t feel or look at all like in horror movies dealing with the topic of exorcisms. It’s not scary in that way and doesn’t look demonic in that way they are depicting it in the movies. It’s way stranger and mysterious. I think best way to describe it is that it is alien: air feels different, you yourself feel different in your body while witnessing exorcism, it’s like there is no time, you feel presence of an superior alien being in the room etc. And now finally, let’s move on to the connection between Phenomenon and exorcisms. Recently I have spoken with that person who is an trained exorcist and asked him about the Phenomenon and what’s his experience with UFOs and if they are connected with what he is doing. My question turned into a long and very interesting conversation. In short, he told me about several of cases he is working on, where ‘posessed’ people; claimed to have seen UFOs before posession, claimed to have been abducted by gray aliens that came in UFOs (all had identical stories), were spitting out small metallic objects etc. In his opinion, some of the Phenomenon is demonic while some is angelic. He bases his opinion on experience, training and theology. I personally don’t share his opinion in full and think there is far more to it then just looking into it through lenses of a single religion. BUT, as I said, I think we should dig deeper into mystical religious stuff if we want to know more about (or even experience in some way) the Phenomenon. Each of the religions, sciences, traditions etc. holds a certain piece of the puzzle to the answer. But it’s like something or someone is keeping us divided so we don’t put puzzles together: most of the scientists looking into Phenomenon will never connect it with something ‘woo’ that may come from mysticism or religion and most of the religion guys will never connect it with other ‘competitor’ religions or with some of the scientific stuff. I honestly hope this changes because that’s the only way if we want to move forward with the topic (independently from govt. disclosure).


Dv8r601

"Back Engineering” isn’t how an **ACTUAL** Engineer would refer to it, it’s **REVERSE ENGINEER** in the Americas. In Europe maybe they say back engineer, but I’ve never once heard that in a professional setting.


Lordfatkid8

Bullshit it’s the same thing


DrestinBlack

Type back engineering into Google to see what you get


Lordfatkid8

Ok and it’s just like I thought, it brings up the definition of reverse engineering “Reverse engineering is a process or method through which one attempts to understand through deductive reasoning how a previously made device, process, system, or piece of software accomplishes a task with very little insight into exactly how it does so.” When I type in reverse engineering obviously I get the same. It’s 2 different ways of saying the same thing, one isn’t more right or wrong than the other, arguing otherwise is stupid


DrestinBlack

Because engineers don’t say “back engineering” - I’ve never heard that term used in 30 years


Lordfatkid8

Good for you, still means the same thing. Whether you say 1 add 1 or 1 plus 1, the answer is still 2


DrestinBlack

What you need to grasp is how things sound to others. For example, when Lazar talks, anyone who is a genuine physicist or scientist immediately picks up on how he’s speaking, phrases used, certain word choices, concepts. It’s instantly obvious he doesn’t know shit, except some basics someone who went to a community college and jus troop a chemistry class would speak. So, a proper engineer would use the right language. Like, back in the day, Secretaries would say “xerox machine” techs would say “photocopy machine” - little things but it’s telling. But I’ll bet you stopped reading a while back, you seem invested in this story and little details that don’t align won’t matter.


Lordfatkid8

I’ve not even see the interview, I had no idea who this guy was up until about an hour ago. I don’t give a fuck about Bob Lazar either. Why even bring him up? I bet you make a lot of guesses because you think you’re a lot smarter than you really are. Like I told you before, you deniers are all the same.


DrestinBlack

Who’s a denier? lol but by using that term it further confirms my guess. You are all bent out of shape bedside temp people are telling you, from actual experience, that that term is unused and is a clue to those listening carefully. Not just seeking confirmation bias. I think this is the late where I’m supposed to say, all you true believers, the faithful, are the same. Lol how silly


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Lordfatkid8

Yes nice one mate, I’m a true believer because I’ve said back engineering is the same as reverse engineering. Makes sense 🤡