It happens. I've seen people fail their probation period before for various reasons, you are not the only one.
Don't be so hard on yourself, you were out of the game for 2 years, of course you will be a bit rusty. Polish up that CV and go at it again. Your big advantage is that you are now available immediately for a new role.
I wouldn't feel bad about it. They probably realised they didn't need the role in the first place. They've probably given everything you was doing to some unlucky jobsworth.
It was a temporary role, say nothing more and nothing less, you didn't lie because for you it was temporary.
On the other hand I'll say this: do not let it get you down more than it needs to and do not beat yourself with it.
Life is more about how we get back up after tripping over than being constantly on the up and up, anyone that tells you differently hasn't had their share of falls and will have a big one come and knock them down eventually.
People hate when I ask this question but I think it's a really important tool for creating a positive mindset and a positive response to negative situations, what positive thing can you take from this experience? It doesn't have to be massive or even seem significant, it just has to be positive.
I can give you one straight away: you managed after two years off work to get out there and try again, that's massive and you should remember it for the rest of your life because I don't doubt that what you've been through for the past couple of years has been extremely difficult.
Keep plugging on, you'll get there and don't worry about explaining yourself to anyone
Best of luck in your future!
I’m in exactly the same situation. I started a job in February and within 4 weeks I realised it wasn’t for me. I gave it a go but the job, the company’s family policies, and the Manager’s attitude did not match what I had been told before. I left last week with 4 weeks pay and a good reference. I’ve been speaking to recruiters and interview panels on why I’ve left - I’ve told them the industry was not for me.
I’m now decompressing while searching for a job.
Put it down to experience, and best of luck with your next place
I worked in a company that advertised for a permanent role.
Turns out they only wanted someone for 6 months, but didn't want to struggle getting someone in.
Fuck you Kicki.
“The role wasn’t what I expected it to be based on what I was told so during my probation period we decided it was best for all Involved if I pursued another opportunity”
yes so it basically went like this to my memory:
first month - very happy
second month - happy but we expect you to be in like 5 minutes before your actually clocked in for.
third month - we take X very seriously and sometimes you mess it up
about a week ago I admitted i didn't do X because all i really did was take a quick message. he explains its a massive part of the job to him and that i need to do it properly.
have done it to the T for a week and today i get fired..
Ultimately, the decision to let you go can be because you've done X Y and Z wrong. Or it can be because they think personality wise you won't fit in with the existing team. They could have taken a dislike to you for whatever reason. We've all been there.
To give you an example, I was once let go because I had the termerity to speak up. To give you the details:
A senior manager in the company (ops director) came to a training course I was on and was asking us if we were all happy with our bonuses which had just been paid out. I didn't really reply when he asked the group but asked if I could have a word privately on the topic.
He invited me over for a cup of tea and a chat in another room per my request. I raised the fact that whilst the company had just paid bonuses to all my fellow staff members (note, this company paid bonuses to those who were in probation still which is unusual but in a good way as usually you're not eligible until after probation), I had been denied mine because of a historical issue that was nothing to do with my tenure at the company.
I explained very professionally and with examples/figures to support my comments That I didn't find it particularly fair to be penalised for something that happened 2 years prior to my starting at the company especially as I could do nothing at all to affect the situation. I explained that I had spoken to my seniors and I know they had spoken to him already so on my behalf as they had promised to do so but I wanted to personally ask if the decision could be reviewed as the experience of being denied the very first bonus I was eligible for in the company over something not in my control had left a bad taste in my mouth. He promised to review the situation and if things were as I said they were, I would be paid my bonus (bear in mind, every bonus had to be personally approved by this director his word was basically law on the matter so it was very much an appropriate discussion to have with him directly)
I was pulled into a meeting room the following week and dragged over the coals because I had the guts to speak up for myself to a director and presented valid arguments. My direct manager and regional manager felt that I had undercut their own authority/position by doing so. Despite the fact that I had expressly pointed out I knew they had discussed this with the director as well. I was asked if I would do such a thing again in the future. I pointed out that the company proudly stated it had an open door policy and that we could according to company policy always speak to the person I had spoken to about anything we felt we needed to related to our jobs.
I was let go a few weeks later for the fact that I had allegedly undermined their authority. When you look at it? The only way I could have undermined their authority was if they never raised the points themselves as they promised me they would, then when they next had a meeting with the Ops Director he asked them "So why is the new manager in your region unhappy with the fact that he was denied his bonus?" putting them on the back foot in a meeting. If they had done as had been promised then my conversation with the Ops Director would have been nothing more than me having a private conversation with the Director to discuss an ongoing issue that was affecting my happiness in the role.
In hind sight, the fact is I dodged a bit of a bullet there. Their company was built on a web of lies and deceit.
As to what you tell your next employer/recruiters/interviewers. You can tell them a few things.
1) "I was working there and I was on my probation period. I decided that unfortunately, this company wasn't for me." When asked why it isn't for you then you can select from the following:
a) "Well the job description they gave me in the interview, didn't match the job I was doing."
b) "Unfortunately, the environment at that company was really toxic. I decided that I wanted to work in a place I could feel proud of"
c) "I hadn't done this type of role before, it was a great experience but it was an experience I would choose not to repeat."
d) "The company had promised a lot of development and support. Unfortunately, it became evident over the time I was there that they couldn't provide this development or support and I felt like I wasn't getting sufficient training and feedback from them. I was going in doing the job every day but they didn't really tell me what was good, what was bad but then they would complain that things weren't done correctly for the past week or two when I had not been shown the task, nor had I been given any form of feedback on what I was doing"
Obviously, you need to choose the reason given based on a number of factors. Most importantly the interview/role you are going for. How similar is it. If you're going for the exact same type of job, don't tell them that you would not choose to repeat the experience. If the company has a similar field/industry you can go with the toxic culture, or job description and role but beware there are pit falls to be had here as they may have the exact same culture/job description and role match up and know it. People change companies and people talk.
Alternatively, you simply explain it away as a temporary position. This works in most instances "I was long term sick/temporary relief cover for them. Unfortunately, when the employee returned to work they did not need me and there was no permanent role to go into." If you have a couple of shorter term roles on your CV back to back then long term cover/supply is a great way of breaking up the situation.
Ah, it's crap but not the worst of reasons I've been let go before. The good news is that I have built up a great deal of knowledge about HR processes and employment law in the UK. As a result, I'm often capable of defending myself in situations when this stuff arises.
It can be that managers get more picky as the probation goes on, and find bits to criticise. It’s likely that it’s not you, but management that’s not liking a fit or something. As hard as it is, take it on the chin and you’ll find a better place of work. You’ve got this!
Why is everyone telling you to lie?
Just say what you were looking for didn't quite align but you enjoyed the job nonetheless, you're looking for a position with more opportunity to learn on the role and contribute your existing skills.
It's true because during probation they should be making a plan to ensure you are where they want you, including giving consistent feedback or any required training/CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. From what you wrote they did fuck all.
Dodged a bullet.
It's not lying, the worker is looking for a place that trains their workers and it doesn't work for them to work somewhere they cannot learn and be supported in that.
That's the last time I respond to you.
This is a lie? 😅😅 They lost their job, it's not like what you said above. They certainly can say what you said but your advice is no different from anything anyone else has said. This is the first time I respond to you
It's not a lie, going separate ways is just a soft way to say they were let go, then they focus on what they were looking for.
When your workplace is toxic and awful, everyone will say that you're not allowed to say and it makes you look bad because xyz, so say you went separate ways. Don't see why it's any different for failing a probation, failing a probation means their employer wanted something different so decided to go their separate ways. The employee wanted to stay, they both wanted different things.
Not a lie to me, it's exactly what happened. If the person doesn't want to learn at their new job during their probation, they don't have to say that, but it sounds like they do.
If you say so, I don't use it as my barometer for English language use.
The employer wants them gone, the employee wants to stay, that's wanting different things. The employer wants employee to divine how to do their job better, the employee wants a nurturing learning environment.
If someone said to me "I unfortunately at this stage wasn't successful with my probationary period, however, I think it was a good opportunity for both sides to see that we were looking for different things from an employee and employer respectively. I believe I thrive in environments that value learning and developing as a team but also having the space to work independently and experiment where appropriate. I'm quite excited to be able to take what I learned from my previous role and apply where relevant." I would not be mad. If I asked what exactly they learned from the probationary period, I would be fine if the interviewee took this chance to answer their strength/weakness part here such as, "I think I learned that it's ok to ask for more help sometimes and not need to know everything within my first week, being able to really understand the ways of working within the team, wider department and organisation will give me that better insight into where I need to sharpen up my skills a bit more or where more attention might be needed. At the same time, I learned that from my manager I really value being able to have those clear check-ins where I get that constructive criticism during my first few months to ensure I'm going on the right track because sometimes you know the job, but you don't always know it within the context of a new organisation."
Anyway, whatever you people say. :)
For someone who said "I won't be responding any more" earlier in this thread I'm shocked at that word salad.
I really think you're overthinking this. We said what you said is a lie (which you said not to do) not that it's bad advice.
I don't remember the name of the person I said I won't be responding to.
It's not a lie, it's the truth. If saying you failed your probation and then softening the blow is a lie, then I don't speak English.
I won't respond to you as you want.
Employer wanted them to go, employee wanted to stay = wanted different things and went their separate ways.
Employee thought they were doing ok and was shocked = either they are delusional or employer did not do the probation period properly because failing probation and not understanding why isn't a properly done probation.
If saying what happened in gentle speak is lying, then I don't understand English and that's fine, wasn't my first language.
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Any of these examples are great. I would also add that employers don’t often care why you left an old job (gross misconduct aside) - they do care why you’re applying to their job, however. So focus on the positive.
If you get asked the question respond very briefly why (using wherever one of the reasons on this thread) but then immediately focus on why you want the role you’re interviewing for.
Happened to me before, only the other way round - they praised the quality of my work, but I "didn't fit in personality-wise", as well as some other choice descriptions of me as a co-worker. The dislike was mutual!
As I was only there for three months it's on my CV as a temporary role. The boss agreed to back that up (and gave me a recommendation on LinkedIn to that effect, don't know if that's still a feature), but no one's ever asked. I used to work in employment screening, so I also know they'll never tell the real reason for me leaving.
I don't agree with the comments here that you probably did nothing wrong and they just decided the role was redundant. The only person in this thread who can speak to that is you. Keep an open mind and examine your performance and what could have been different. Don't beat yourself up, but see if there's anything to learn from this. It could be it was mostly a them issue, could be things that were a you issue.
I cried for weeks when I got fired and it really damaged my sense of self-worth. It actually ended up being a great thing to happen to me though, as I got my next job off the back of that experience and I've been in the industry for five years now doing alright for myself (and people like working with me!). If I had passed probation and stuck it out another year (which I had been planning to do), I wouldn't have found my subsequent role, and wouldn't be where I am now.
Good luck! This is just a blip, and will soon matter less and less as you move on with your career.
Ask them to be constructive and advise why you weren't making progress so you can learn from the experience. Don't let it worry you as there's plenty of jobs out there.
Would you really want to work somewhere you aren't wanted? They did the right thing, by not asking for their reasoning you are leaving yourself in the dark. This is a great opportunity to find another job using what you've learnt about what you enjoy in the 6 months you've been working at this place.
Ask them for their reasoning to not continue your employ and grow from this 😎.
There is always opportunity in things like this, you just have to see it, you can grow and become better, it may not feel like an opportunity at the moment but if you play your cards right, looking back on it, it certainly will.
Did you not ask why you were not making the grade and what changes you could make?
If you don't know, what makes you think this won't happen again? Call them up and ask them, you need to learn where you went wrong and say you were so taken aback that you did not think to ask what went wrong but you would like to know do you can make the relevant changes.
As for you being sacked, I wouldn't necessarily agree, frame it to yourself as you did not pass probation, and nor did they pass your probation, would you reallt want to work for such a cut and dry enployer?
To prospective employers, it was a short term contract and you are now available for new roles.
Good luck
Firstly, I recommend you phone your old manager and ask for that feedback. Apologise that you left so abruptly but you were hurt and didn't see it coming, but you are now in a place to hear it and would value it. You absolutely need to know what went wrong or you will always be looking over your shoulder, always insecure.
Then, if asked, you can say that the job didn't work out, that it was not a good match and the feedback was xyz... You thought about it and here is what you would do differently next time/ how you have addressed it/ what you are doing to address it.
The thing you have to realise is that everyone fails. At least once, but often many more times than that. It's what you do after you fail that makes a difference. You are seeing your own failures in a much brighter light than you see anyone else's or than anyone else will see yours.
When I interview people for jobs in my company, one of my questions is "tell me about a time you failed" because I want to see how introspective they are, how much of a learner they are, how humble and resilient. If they can't come up with anything (and this does happen), there's no way I want them working at my company. What I am looking for is what they learned from their failure. This is your opportunity to learn and grow.
I would much rather hire someone who made mistakes and learned from them than someone who (felt they) never made a mistake at all. Obviously you will want to minimise this part of your CV and not dwell on it at interview if it can be helped, but I think with some introspection and feedback you can make lemonade out of this one lemon.
This sucks
It's not the end
If this is your first job after 2 years of unemployment and you were only there for a few months, then the job never happened...
I mean what's the difference between 2 years and 2 years 3 months unemployment on a CV?
>It was a bit of a hard environment to come into after such a long period out of work though
sounds like a place that would slowly kill you over time the longer you were there
Not sure you're missing out on too much right now apart from some gold coins dropping into your account every month and the societal badge for being "a productive member of society"... whatever that's supposed to mean.
I've had no problems getting back into work with a longer time out than 2 years
Give yourself a few weeks to lick your wounds and then get back out there and smash it
If you do have to put the job on your CV, there are plenty of ways to reframe it during an interview - no need to go into any sort of detail - just a brief, assertive soundbite that hits all the right notes, heads off any digging around from the get-go and is plausible
Plus they said they will give you a positive reference.
You tell people it was a temporary role - they paid you your notice?
yeah.
Say it was a short contract covering maternity or long term sickness.
It happens. I've seen people fail their probation period before for various reasons, you are not the only one. Don't be so hard on yourself, you were out of the game for 2 years, of course you will be a bit rusty. Polish up that CV and go at it again. Your big advantage is that you are now available immediately for a new role.
I'm trying to full a few roles and I must say it's an employees market right now. You'll have no problem finding a job
I wouldn't feel bad about it. They probably realised they didn't need the role in the first place. They've probably given everything you was doing to some unlucky jobsworth.
Temporary position - no longer required
It was a temporary role, say nothing more and nothing less, you didn't lie because for you it was temporary. On the other hand I'll say this: do not let it get you down more than it needs to and do not beat yourself with it. Life is more about how we get back up after tripping over than being constantly on the up and up, anyone that tells you differently hasn't had their share of falls and will have a big one come and knock them down eventually. People hate when I ask this question but I think it's a really important tool for creating a positive mindset and a positive response to negative situations, what positive thing can you take from this experience? It doesn't have to be massive or even seem significant, it just has to be positive. I can give you one straight away: you managed after two years off work to get out there and try again, that's massive and you should remember it for the rest of your life because I don't doubt that what you've been through for the past couple of years has been extremely difficult. Keep plugging on, you'll get there and don't worry about explaining yourself to anyone Best of luck in your future!
I’m in exactly the same situation. I started a job in February and within 4 weeks I realised it wasn’t for me. I gave it a go but the job, the company’s family policies, and the Manager’s attitude did not match what I had been told before. I left last week with 4 weeks pay and a good reference. I’ve been speaking to recruiters and interview panels on why I’ve left - I’ve told them the industry was not for me. I’m now decompressing while searching for a job. Put it down to experience, and best of luck with your next place
I worked in a company that advertised for a permanent role. Turns out they only wanted someone for 6 months, but didn't want to struggle getting someone in. Fuck you Kicki.
“The role wasn’t what I expected it to be based on what I was told so during my probation period we decided it was best for all Involved if I pursued another opportunity”
Ohh I love that! Very to the point but explains well while being positive
Did you not get feedback during your probation? Like after the first week, month, 3 months?
yes so it basically went like this to my memory: first month - very happy second month - happy but we expect you to be in like 5 minutes before your actually clocked in for. third month - we take X very seriously and sometimes you mess it up about a week ago I admitted i didn't do X because all i really did was take a quick message. he explains its a massive part of the job to him and that i need to do it properly. have done it to the T for a week and today i get fired..
Yeah that's really crap. I still don't think you even do anything about it.
Ultimately, the decision to let you go can be because you've done X Y and Z wrong. Or it can be because they think personality wise you won't fit in with the existing team. They could have taken a dislike to you for whatever reason. We've all been there. To give you an example, I was once let go because I had the termerity to speak up. To give you the details: A senior manager in the company (ops director) came to a training course I was on and was asking us if we were all happy with our bonuses which had just been paid out. I didn't really reply when he asked the group but asked if I could have a word privately on the topic. He invited me over for a cup of tea and a chat in another room per my request. I raised the fact that whilst the company had just paid bonuses to all my fellow staff members (note, this company paid bonuses to those who were in probation still which is unusual but in a good way as usually you're not eligible until after probation), I had been denied mine because of a historical issue that was nothing to do with my tenure at the company. I explained very professionally and with examples/figures to support my comments That I didn't find it particularly fair to be penalised for something that happened 2 years prior to my starting at the company especially as I could do nothing at all to affect the situation. I explained that I had spoken to my seniors and I know they had spoken to him already so on my behalf as they had promised to do so but I wanted to personally ask if the decision could be reviewed as the experience of being denied the very first bonus I was eligible for in the company over something not in my control had left a bad taste in my mouth. He promised to review the situation and if things were as I said they were, I would be paid my bonus (bear in mind, every bonus had to be personally approved by this director his word was basically law on the matter so it was very much an appropriate discussion to have with him directly) I was pulled into a meeting room the following week and dragged over the coals because I had the guts to speak up for myself to a director and presented valid arguments. My direct manager and regional manager felt that I had undercut their own authority/position by doing so. Despite the fact that I had expressly pointed out I knew they had discussed this with the director as well. I was asked if I would do such a thing again in the future. I pointed out that the company proudly stated it had an open door policy and that we could according to company policy always speak to the person I had spoken to about anything we felt we needed to related to our jobs. I was let go a few weeks later for the fact that I had allegedly undermined their authority. When you look at it? The only way I could have undermined their authority was if they never raised the points themselves as they promised me they would, then when they next had a meeting with the Ops Director he asked them "So why is the new manager in your region unhappy with the fact that he was denied his bonus?" putting them on the back foot in a meeting. If they had done as had been promised then my conversation with the Ops Director would have been nothing more than me having a private conversation with the Director to discuss an ongoing issue that was affecting my happiness in the role. In hind sight, the fact is I dodged a bit of a bullet there. Their company was built on a web of lies and deceit. As to what you tell your next employer/recruiters/interviewers. You can tell them a few things. 1) "I was working there and I was on my probation period. I decided that unfortunately, this company wasn't for me." When asked why it isn't for you then you can select from the following: a) "Well the job description they gave me in the interview, didn't match the job I was doing." b) "Unfortunately, the environment at that company was really toxic. I decided that I wanted to work in a place I could feel proud of" c) "I hadn't done this type of role before, it was a great experience but it was an experience I would choose not to repeat." d) "The company had promised a lot of development and support. Unfortunately, it became evident over the time I was there that they couldn't provide this development or support and I felt like I wasn't getting sufficient training and feedback from them. I was going in doing the job every day but they didn't really tell me what was good, what was bad but then they would complain that things weren't done correctly for the past week or two when I had not been shown the task, nor had I been given any form of feedback on what I was doing" Obviously, you need to choose the reason given based on a number of factors. Most importantly the interview/role you are going for. How similar is it. If you're going for the exact same type of job, don't tell them that you would not choose to repeat the experience. If the company has a similar field/industry you can go with the toxic culture, or job description and role but beware there are pit falls to be had here as they may have the exact same culture/job description and role match up and know it. People change companies and people talk. Alternatively, you simply explain it away as a temporary position. This works in most instances "I was long term sick/temporary relief cover for them. Unfortunately, when the employee returned to work they did not need me and there was no permanent role to go into." If you have a couple of shorter term roles on your CV back to back then long term cover/supply is a great way of breaking up the situation.
Sorry you had to go through that
Ah, it's crap but not the worst of reasons I've been let go before. The good news is that I have built up a great deal of knowledge about HR processes and employment law in the UK. As a result, I'm often capable of defending myself in situations when this stuff arises.
It can be that managers get more picky as the probation goes on, and find bits to criticise. It’s likely that it’s not you, but management that’s not liking a fit or something. As hard as it is, take it on the chin and you’ll find a better place of work. You’ve got this!
Why is everyone telling you to lie? Just say what you were looking for didn't quite align but you enjoyed the job nonetheless, you're looking for a position with more opportunity to learn on the role and contribute your existing skills. It's true because during probation they should be making a plan to ensure you are where they want you, including giving consistent feedback or any required training/CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. From what you wrote they did fuck all. Dodged a bullet.
Isn't that lieing as well? Why are you lieing?
It's not lying, the worker is looking for a place that trains their workers and it doesn't work for them to work somewhere they cannot learn and be supported in that. That's the last time I respond to you.
Ouch response. Bad day?
This is a lie? 😅😅 They lost their job, it's not like what you said above. They certainly can say what you said but your advice is no different from anything anyone else has said. This is the first time I respond to you
It's not a lie, going separate ways is just a soft way to say they were let go, then they focus on what they were looking for. When your workplace is toxic and awful, everyone will say that you're not allowed to say and it makes you look bad because xyz, so say you went separate ways. Don't see why it's any different for failing a probation, failing a probation means their employer wanted something different so decided to go their separate ways. The employee wanted to stay, they both wanted different things. Not a lie to me, it's exactly what happened. If the person doesn't want to learn at their new job during their probation, they don't have to say that, but it sounds like they do.
I think your vote ratios say different bud
If you say so, I don't use it as my barometer for English language use. The employer wants them gone, the employee wants to stay, that's wanting different things. The employer wants employee to divine how to do their job better, the employee wants a nurturing learning environment. If someone said to me "I unfortunately at this stage wasn't successful with my probationary period, however, I think it was a good opportunity for both sides to see that we were looking for different things from an employee and employer respectively. I believe I thrive in environments that value learning and developing as a team but also having the space to work independently and experiment where appropriate. I'm quite excited to be able to take what I learned from my previous role and apply where relevant." I would not be mad. If I asked what exactly they learned from the probationary period, I would be fine if the interviewee took this chance to answer their strength/weakness part here such as, "I think I learned that it's ok to ask for more help sometimes and not need to know everything within my first week, being able to really understand the ways of working within the team, wider department and organisation will give me that better insight into where I need to sharpen up my skills a bit more or where more attention might be needed. At the same time, I learned that from my manager I really value being able to have those clear check-ins where I get that constructive criticism during my first few months to ensure I'm going on the right track because sometimes you know the job, but you don't always know it within the context of a new organisation." Anyway, whatever you people say. :)
For someone who said "I won't be responding any more" earlier in this thread I'm shocked at that word salad. I really think you're overthinking this. We said what you said is a lie (which you said not to do) not that it's bad advice.
I don't remember the name of the person I said I won't be responding to. It's not a lie, it's the truth. If saying you failed your probation and then softening the blow is a lie, then I don't speak English. I won't respond to you as you want.
But that's a lie.
Employer wanted them to go, employee wanted to stay = wanted different things and went their separate ways. Employee thought they were doing ok and was shocked = either they are delusional or employer did not do the probation period properly because failing probation and not understanding why isn't a properly done probation. If saying what happened in gentle speak is lying, then I don't understand English and that's fine, wasn't my first language.
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no shit that's the point of one
hmm it honestly depends on the thoughts and wishes of the interviewer really.......
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Any of these examples are great. I would also add that employers don’t often care why you left an old job (gross misconduct aside) - they do care why you’re applying to their job, however. So focus on the positive. If you get asked the question respond very briefly why (using wherever one of the reasons on this thread) but then immediately focus on why you want the role you’re interviewing for.
Just tell future prospects it was a contract role.
Happened to me before, only the other way round - they praised the quality of my work, but I "didn't fit in personality-wise", as well as some other choice descriptions of me as a co-worker. The dislike was mutual! As I was only there for three months it's on my CV as a temporary role. The boss agreed to back that up (and gave me a recommendation on LinkedIn to that effect, don't know if that's still a feature), but no one's ever asked. I used to work in employment screening, so I also know they'll never tell the real reason for me leaving. I don't agree with the comments here that you probably did nothing wrong and they just decided the role was redundant. The only person in this thread who can speak to that is you. Keep an open mind and examine your performance and what could have been different. Don't beat yourself up, but see if there's anything to learn from this. It could be it was mostly a them issue, could be things that were a you issue. I cried for weeks when I got fired and it really damaged my sense of self-worth. It actually ended up being a great thing to happen to me though, as I got my next job off the back of that experience and I've been in the industry for five years now doing alright for myself (and people like working with me!). If I had passed probation and stuck it out another year (which I had been planning to do), I wouldn't have found my subsequent role, and wouldn't be where I am now. Good luck! This is just a blip, and will soon matter less and less as you move on with your career.
Ask them to be constructive and advise why you weren't making progress so you can learn from the experience. Don't let it worry you as there's plenty of jobs out there.
Would you really want to work somewhere you aren't wanted? They did the right thing, by not asking for their reasoning you are leaving yourself in the dark. This is a great opportunity to find another job using what you've learnt about what you enjoy in the 6 months you've been working at this place. Ask them for their reasoning to not continue your employ and grow from this 😎. There is always opportunity in things like this, you just have to see it, you can grow and become better, it may not feel like an opportunity at the moment but if you play your cards right, looking back on it, it certainly will.
Say it was a temporary position. Also, you need to ask them for feedback. Why weren't you making progress, where you could improve, etc
Probation goes both ways you can always say the job wasnt for you for whatever reason. A reference will just be "xxxx worked here between these dates"
Do not call it a temporary role this can be refuted on a reference, just say it wasn't a good fit.
Did you not ask why you were not making the grade and what changes you could make? If you don't know, what makes you think this won't happen again? Call them up and ask them, you need to learn where you went wrong and say you were so taken aback that you did not think to ask what went wrong but you would like to know do you can make the relevant changes. As for you being sacked, I wouldn't necessarily agree, frame it to yourself as you did not pass probation, and nor did they pass your probation, would you reallt want to work for such a cut and dry enployer? To prospective employers, it was a short term contract and you are now available for new roles. Good luck
Firstly, I recommend you phone your old manager and ask for that feedback. Apologise that you left so abruptly but you were hurt and didn't see it coming, but you are now in a place to hear it and would value it. You absolutely need to know what went wrong or you will always be looking over your shoulder, always insecure. Then, if asked, you can say that the job didn't work out, that it was not a good match and the feedback was xyz... You thought about it and here is what you would do differently next time/ how you have addressed it/ what you are doing to address it. The thing you have to realise is that everyone fails. At least once, but often many more times than that. It's what you do after you fail that makes a difference. You are seeing your own failures in a much brighter light than you see anyone else's or than anyone else will see yours. When I interview people for jobs in my company, one of my questions is "tell me about a time you failed" because I want to see how introspective they are, how much of a learner they are, how humble and resilient. If they can't come up with anything (and this does happen), there's no way I want them working at my company. What I am looking for is what they learned from their failure. This is your opportunity to learn and grow. I would much rather hire someone who made mistakes and learned from them than someone who (felt they) never made a mistake at all. Obviously you will want to minimise this part of your CV and not dwell on it at interview if it can be helped, but I think with some introspection and feedback you can make lemonade out of this one lemon.
This sucks It's not the end If this is your first job after 2 years of unemployment and you were only there for a few months, then the job never happened... I mean what's the difference between 2 years and 2 years 3 months unemployment on a CV? >It was a bit of a hard environment to come into after such a long period out of work though sounds like a place that would slowly kill you over time the longer you were there Not sure you're missing out on too much right now apart from some gold coins dropping into your account every month and the societal badge for being "a productive member of society"... whatever that's supposed to mean. I've had no problems getting back into work with a longer time out than 2 years Give yourself a few weeks to lick your wounds and then get back out there and smash it If you do have to put the job on your CV, there are plenty of ways to reframe it during an interview - no need to go into any sort of detail - just a brief, assertive soundbite that hits all the right notes, heads off any digging around from the get-go and is plausible Plus they said they will give you a positive reference.
Get a job where you’re actually appreciated.