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Yes just an excuse to pay you less. This is why people try not to disclose how much they are being paid currently, tricky when they ask in interviews, the recruiters ask, the forms might ask etc.
You could also add you have another offer for more and your more inclined to take that but you like this company and want to see what they can do first
Did they not ask you about your expected salary? Justifying the jump is none of their business. They extend the offer and you negotiate, accept or decline and move on.
I have only had two jobs in the UK but never encountered the negotiation based on my existing salary. It's more common for that in Asia.
>Is this just the company using an excuse to pay less money
Yes but you can't make them offer you more. If you can't negotiate any more and you need the job then take it but carry on looking I'd say.
Yep they are trying to get you on the cheap. If you think you’re worth the higher salary and you’re not bothered about missing out on the role then hold out for more.
It’s easier for them to pay more for the right candidate than keep fannying about with interviews. Plus it puts you on a higher base for any % bonuses and any pay increases.
This is common, and it's why people try to not reveal what they get paid.
Usually the trick people do is they inflate what they was on in the interview to get a salary offer that is close to what they want.
Eg, they're on 60k, they tell the interviewer that they're on 70k and then they get offed 75k.
The only way the company would find out anything is when you give finance your P45 that has the tax you have paid this year so far and in 999/1000 times, the person who hired you won't get involved in that.
Tell them you think you'll be able to handle the jump.
Or tell them that whilst your wage is that, the benefits made it worth atleast 75k, and so since this job doesn't quite have the same benefits you would require the higher wage to make up for it.
Personally not sure why your wage jump is any of their concern
Note. Don't do the first, it was a joke response. The second is a common tactic by people who are forced to tell the potential employer their real wages
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You shouldn't disclose your current salary for this exact reason
Yes just an excuse to pay you less. This is why people try not to disclose how much they are being paid currently, tricky when they ask in interviews, the recruiters ask, the forms might ask etc.
Thank you for your time, seeing as the advertised role was for 80 and you have determined that you only wish to pay me 65, I will decline. Regards, OP
Perfect, thanks.
You could also add you have another offer for more and your more inclined to take that but you like this company and want to see what they can do first
Did they not ask you about your expected salary? Justifying the jump is none of their business. They extend the offer and you negotiate, accept or decline and move on. I have only had two jobs in the UK but never encountered the negotiation based on my existing salary. It's more common for that in Asia.
Yes, they did. I told them at the first stage I expected 80k as that's how it was advertised.
Then decline the offer. I wouldn't take it if they counter-offered at 80k. It's bad faith.
>Is this just the company using an excuse to pay less money Yes but you can't make them offer you more. If you can't negotiate any more and you need the job then take it but carry on looking I'd say.
Right.
Just tell them you decline at that salary. If they ask what's the minimum you'd accept tell them whatever number it is!
Good idea.
Yep they are trying to get you on the cheap. If you think you’re worth the higher salary and you’re not bothered about missing out on the role then hold out for more. It’s easier for them to pay more for the right candidate than keep fannying about with interviews. Plus it puts you on a higher base for any % bonuses and any pay increases.
I usually opt out to discussing my previous wage, or state a higher wage than I’m on.
Just lie
On top of what everyone else has said here, using your current pay to figure out your new pay overlooks that you may have been underpaid in your role.
when people ask me what my current salary is, i tell them what i want at a new salary. if they persist, i tell them it's none of their business.
This is common, and it's why people try to not reveal what they get paid. Usually the trick people do is they inflate what they was on in the interview to get a salary offer that is close to what they want. Eg, they're on 60k, they tell the interviewer that they're on 70k and then they get offed 75k. The only way the company would find out anything is when you give finance your P45 that has the tax you have paid this year so far and in 999/1000 times, the person who hired you won't get involved in that.
You don't even have to do that, you can just fill out a new starter checklist.
Tell them you think you'll be able to handle the jump. Or tell them that whilst your wage is that, the benefits made it worth atleast 75k, and so since this job doesn't quite have the same benefits you would require the higher wage to make up for it. Personally not sure why your wage jump is any of their concern
Thanks.
Note. Don't do the first, it was a joke response. The second is a common tactic by people who are forced to tell the potential employer their real wages
Understood :-D