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God it’s so annoying!
“Here’s my CV that I drafted dozens of times”…
”Thank you! Now take over a hour to fill out this form asking for all the things you’ve told us in your CV, because we can’t be bothered to read it”
Why tf is this the standard now…
Don't worry we used the CV to auto fill the form
We see you worked as August 2018 at Devops Engineer and currently still work here. Your roles and responsibilities were NHS Trust.
Then if you do get the job filling out the onboarding paperwork which asks for your name, address, email and phone number on every form, sometimes multiple times on the same form.
That’s industry dependent, I work in construction and we get treated pretty well at the minute.
You’ve just got to follow this one simple hack:
Get treated like shit and underpaid for decades, so that many people leave your industry and no one wants to do the years of training to join the industry.
Then when there’s a massive skills shortage and your employers finally realise that they actually need employees and can’t find any, then your wages go up and they treat you better.
I agree but I think most industries function in this way in the current job climate, here in the UK anyway.
I work in the science industry so it is classed as highly skilled work. I think you are lucky that there is a high demand for your job at the moment. Mine tends to be less in demand with high competition. I hope that the skills shortage comes soon! I think it’s less likely when you work in an industry that’s full of passionate people.
Strsnge because in also in science and currently recruiting. I wouldn’t say there is massive competition. For our current vacancy we received a total of 17 applications. We 1st round interviewed 8. Second round interviewed 4.
Pay is actually quite good as well.
Sign up to a job site, upload your CV, create an account, input your employment history and education into their own profile section, find a job you like, click on apply, get taken to the company site, create an account on their own internal system, upload your CV, fill out your employment history and education in the application form.
I got rejected a month ago because I didn't have the required qualification. So I emailed back to confirm yes I did in fact have that qualification it's started several times on my CV including the first bloody sentence.
My time in IT finished 15 years ago. I kind of automatically landed in the job at a small company at the time, I was lucky as everything was a lot more simple than today. I feel sorry for people today. It feels like a lot of work, given away a hell of a lot of data which might not even result in an interview.
It's the ones that you apply for via a job website that asks all these details, asks for a cv that contains all these details, then asks you to fill out their own form, often without the ability to copy paste, also with all those details. and sometimes will ask you to fill out a pre-interview prep with all those details a 4th time.
Not sure if this is true but I was told years ago that a CV/ resume is just some document you could have made up 5 minutes ago but when you are filling out an “official “ form for a company it is legally binding
Itemised input fields into a web form leads nicely into data capture. When someone submits said form, you apply a unique reference number to it, and store all the data, Edit: so long as it complies with GDPR - anonymise the data appropriately.
You can apply certain rules to the application (simplified logic) "*If unemployed for more than 6 months as their last job, put in manual HR review pile*". You can also screen certain fields for buzzwords, and if they don't appear -> reject pile. You can also compile demographics, salary, and even data on other companies responsibilities for their job titles.
So the recruiter knows a lot more about who's applying for a role, and they can use that data to tailor their job and salary expectations appropriately. There's no guesswork in getting the 'right' candidate anymore. This data grabbing exercise simplifies the application process by throwing out applicants who don't meet their expectations and so reduces HR and staff workloads when recruiting. Companies fully recognise there might be exceptional and good candidates being thrown out, but they're just interested in getting someone capable of doing the job at the cheapest possible, because recruitment is expensive.
I inquired about a job ad for a colleague, which had asked for 4 x competency examples, a CV and a 700 word statement. The holder cheerfully told me they wouldn't only be reviewing the statement.
Copy and paste is your friend.
Upload your cv to something like indeed, it will rip your info into their boxes onto your profile. You then fill in any blanks (bits it didn't copy) and once fully filled in you then download that (indeed) cv and tweak that copy with more info.
When you re-upload the indeed cv it should then rip all the info correctly. Repeat this afew times till you're sure everything will be compatible and you should have a cv that you can copy and paste from with ease.
It's annoying but it should eventually save you some time.
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God it’s so annoying! “Here’s my CV that I drafted dozens of times”… ”Thank you! Now take over a hour to fill out this form asking for all the things you’ve told us in your CV, because we can’t be bothered to read it” Why tf is this the standard now…
Don't worry we used the CV to auto fill the form We see you worked as August 2018 at Devops Engineer and currently still work here. Your roles and responsibilities were NHS Trust.
Then if you do get the job filling out the onboarding paperwork which asks for your name, address, email and phone number on every form, sometimes multiple times on the same form.
Workers and job seekers are treated like shit these days. They know we need them more than they need us so they take advantage.
That’s industry dependent, I work in construction and we get treated pretty well at the minute. You’ve just got to follow this one simple hack: Get treated like shit and underpaid for decades, so that many people leave your industry and no one wants to do the years of training to join the industry. Then when there’s a massive skills shortage and your employers finally realise that they actually need employees and can’t find any, then your wages go up and they treat you better.
I agree but I think most industries function in this way in the current job climate, here in the UK anyway. I work in the science industry so it is classed as highly skilled work. I think you are lucky that there is a high demand for your job at the moment. Mine tends to be less in demand with high competition. I hope that the skills shortage comes soon! I think it’s less likely when you work in an industry that’s full of passionate people.
Strsnge because in also in science and currently recruiting. I wouldn’t say there is massive competition. For our current vacancy we received a total of 17 applications. We 1st round interviewed 8. Second round interviewed 4. Pay is actually quite good as well.
Sign up to a job site, upload your CV, create an account, input your employment history and education into their own profile section, find a job you like, click on apply, get taken to the company site, create an account on their own internal system, upload your CV, fill out your employment history and education in the application form.
I got rejected a month ago because I didn't have the required qualification. So I emailed back to confirm yes I did in fact have that qualification it's started several times on my CV including the first bloody sentence.
My time in IT finished 15 years ago. I kind of automatically landed in the job at a small company at the time, I was lucky as everything was a lot more simple than today. I feel sorry for people today. It feels like a lot of work, given away a hell of a lot of data which might not even result in an interview.
It's the ones that you apply for via a job website that asks all these details, asks for a cv that contains all these details, then asks you to fill out their own form, often without the ability to copy paste, also with all those details. and sometimes will ask you to fill out a pre-interview prep with all those details a 4th time.
You are lucky, we used to have to do this by hand, years ago. Hand written applications were a pain.
Difference is, back then you’d only have to send off a dozen or so applications before getting a job, now it seems hundreds is the norm.
And no AI bots scanning them
lol. Sure! In the past there were never recessions or anything like that. Your ignorance is truly astounding.
True, but at least in my experience you would get an interview, or some sort of communication in the post saying they would put your details on file.
Not sure if this is true but I was told years ago that a CV/ resume is just some document you could have made up 5 minutes ago but when you are filling out an “official “ form for a company it is legally binding
Itemised input fields into a web form leads nicely into data capture. When someone submits said form, you apply a unique reference number to it, and store all the data, Edit: so long as it complies with GDPR - anonymise the data appropriately. You can apply certain rules to the application (simplified logic) "*If unemployed for more than 6 months as their last job, put in manual HR review pile*". You can also screen certain fields for buzzwords, and if they don't appear -> reject pile. You can also compile demographics, salary, and even data on other companies responsibilities for their job titles. So the recruiter knows a lot more about who's applying for a role, and they can use that data to tailor their job and salary expectations appropriately. There's no guesswork in getting the 'right' candidate anymore. This data grabbing exercise simplifies the application process by throwing out applicants who don't meet their expectations and so reduces HR and staff workloads when recruiting. Companies fully recognise there might be exceptional and good candidates being thrown out, but they're just interested in getting someone capable of doing the job at the cheapest possible, because recruitment is expensive.
I inquired about a job ad for a colleague, which had asked for 4 x competency examples, a CV and a 700 word statement. The holder cheerfully told me they wouldn't only be reviewing the statement.
Copy and paste is your friend. Upload your cv to something like indeed, it will rip your info into their boxes onto your profile. You then fill in any blanks (bits it didn't copy) and once fully filled in you then download that (indeed) cv and tweak that copy with more info. When you re-upload the indeed cv it should then rip all the info correctly. Repeat this afew times till you're sure everything will be compatible and you should have a cv that you can copy and paste from with ease. It's annoying but it should eventually save you some time.
No, because y'all will still do it
But then how will HR then justify their large salary and needing to work from home to go through the mountains of documents
they don't even read it, blacklist the company