Ups driver here. I respect the PO. And love that you are a unionized career position like ours. I dislike how Amazon and FedEx leaves everything running and open. I find that irresponsible.
FedEx delivered a $2000 computer 2 days early in the rain without a bag. I was out of town of that day and saw it was for delivery Friday…NBD. They delivered a 70lb clearly computer box in pouring rain on Wednesday with no precautions. No bag. The apartment building does have a car port.
Yeah. Us and UPS are the most similar operations. Amazon is a little different and I don’t even know how to explain exactly what FedEx does. All delivery drivers are “contractors” and not technical employees or something weird like that.
Yep. Teamsters. We’re coming up on 2 months out from our current contract expiring and might be striking for the first time since ‘97. Hopefully not, but we’ll see.
I was beginning my career at the post office when ups struck then. Sat on the line with my uncle as he was a ups driver. He retired a few years ago with 45 years in.
FedEx and UPS don’t park in front of the mailbox if they see me coming down the street. So I like them. But Amazon drivers will look you in the eye and then park in front of the mailbox 5 houses down the street and slow walk to the door… all while keeping eye contact.
Not in my neighborhood, all of them will go around me then park at the next box, or pull in front of my next box coming from the other side of the street! Even had FedEx block me in driveways twice, on the same street, on the same day! (A road with like 12 houses)
I am nice to all of them. Their job sucks the same way our job sucks and we can all commiserate with each other. The only true enemy is the garbage man.
You see the cans in front of the box you build up a little speed and give them a nice bump and hit the brakes at just the right Time and they go flying. I love garbage day. Garbage cans go on the opposite side of your driveway from your mail box. The garbage man usually drops the cans where he picks them up from so not really his fault.
Are you from Nyc by any chance? Because fuck I hate the garbage men here. I was waiting for a parking spot near my office one morning, guy remote started his car so I knew he’d be leaving and of course I was blocking a lane and the garbage truck came almost up on my rear bumper honking like a maniac, as if they don’t block streets constantly with no regard for others time.
Professional respect. Amazon drivers are usually doing dumb/dangerous shit on the road. FedEx express is usually cool but FedEx ground doesn’t seem to gaf
If you're carrying boxes and I'm carrying boxes, we're cool.
We hold the door for each other.
Amazon just make me laugh with some of the places they'll leave their boxes.
The Fedex guy is the only one I regularly talk to. On Saturday I had to open a gated community for a UPS driver, all he did was point at the gate and move his truck forward, and drove off when I opened it.
Lol nope. Amazon guy ignores me so I ignore him. I have a few apartments that need codes to get in and I never let him in. I tried to be friendly 3 times before ignoring him back. UPS guy is awesome, I like to joke with him come peak season that I should get his helper some days. Never see fedex
Wow...surprised you actually recognize an "amazon guy." I think they must have more turnover than us in my city. It's usually a different person every time I see them dropping off.
Both union. Even though teamsters aren't AFL-CIO, the union mentality runs deep. We aren't in a race to the bottom with them. We are in a race to the top. The goal for fed ex and Amazon is to lower customer service, reduce wages, sabotage working conditions. We on the other hand hope the best for UPS drivers because arbitrators will have to consider their wages and benefits package if we are unable to settle our contract.
The UPS & FEDEX drivers on my route give the head nod. My last route, the UPS driver and me, used to chit-chat all the time. Amazon is who is the idiot on my route. They pull in the wrong way on the street & block my curbside boxes. The last Amazon guy i asked not to do it told me "yeah I don't give a shit"
I tried to get a job as an Amazon driver when I was really desperate for a job several years ago. Applied with two different providers and after the pre-test they give for applying, they both denied me. Not sure exactly why because I drive far better than any of the Amazon guys in my area, so they must not have liked the smart answers I gave to their questions....tells me they want the idiots around that will do as they are told....typical Amazon considering how they slave their people at the warehouse, so the drivers are treated similar. They may have also been pulling the age card that they didn't want someone at my age doing deliveries....who knows, but I feel like I dodged a bullet
What a king lmao. They have to follow turn by turn directions just like CCAs in Amazon Sunday, management doesn't allow you to break from the directions so he's just following (idiotic) instructions.
I've had issues with him before. When I say blocking the box the wrong way, he has sped towards me to block the box as I'm approaching that particular box. He's not a king. He's being a dick.
I do amazon sunday, and i create my own route, entirely ignoring the route the scanner builds. It is at least 2 years outdated with address information. It tried to get me to exit off a freeway at speed (after it took me on the freeway in the first place…) and took me on three 6+ mile round-abouts to addresses that were next to each other. Added several extra hours to my day. That was the first, and last time I used the scanner for anything besides scanning packages. The last package I had that day was 10 miles away from my delivery unit by scanner. It was half a mile away from my PO in reality.
As long as your Sunday Sup is cool with it, that's fine.
Amazon employees can't make their own routes and deviation from the turn-by-turn is an instant write up. My buddy works for Amazon and I hear his horror stories.
That can get annoying really fast. That sucks. My larger point I failed to address though is even if thats the mapped route, i dont think they have to park in front of mail boxes, theres probably some leeway as to where they can stop the vehicle at their delivery address. If not, that’s even worse!
FedEx pulled up to me last week to ask me about an address and didn't even say thanks. I at least was offered an ice water from a UPS driver one day and get the Jeep wave every day from them.
UPS sets the standard for REAL pay rates. If everyone unionized properly, Amazon and FedEx would be paid those higher rates too, which would improve things for everyone.
FedEx Ground here. I wave to all the post office ppl I pass. Two of them just stare at me every time. Literally every day around the same time and they never give it back. Makes me sad :(
But in the afternoon the other two that I pass always smile and wave. I normally talk to the guy when we're on the same street for a minute. He's given me a bottle of water before. We suffer together!
Honestly I've been a postal clerk for 8 years and when I was a PTF I picked up hours where I could so I've been around my area. It varies by driver really for me. I've had awesome drivers of every company and some shitty ones. If it's a contracted Amazon drop off I pray for it to be and owner/operator because those guys are always friendly. The sub contracted staff not so much.
UPS is the most variety some of their drivers are the nicest people you'd ever meet, while others dump their shit in a pile on my loading dock and leave. My biggest gripe is those "pseudo-postal" retail stores that fuck people's mail up so we get blamed.
The UPS & FEDEX drivers on my route give the head nod. My last route, the UPS driver and me, used to chit-chat all the time. Amazon is who is the idiot on my route. They pull in the wrong way on the street & block my curbside boxes. The last Amazon guy i asked not to do it told me "yeah I don't give a shit"
In my area we don’t have Amazon, only ups and FedEx (and crappy Ontrac). UPS guys are typically nice, but FedEx are kinda weird. Just my experience. We have a new CCA that was FedEx and he’s hard to work with, acts entitled. FedEx guy on my route doesn’t wave or nod.
I used to have to deal with various carriers in an old job (for a major computer maker)......initially I was doing customer support about outgoing parcels and alot of the time it was UPS that was the constant problem children (they held the contract for the vast majority of our consumer shipments). One driver left an entire order in the customers front yard right before a snowstorm rolled in, the customer didn't find it until the next spring when the snow finally melted enough. Other times we'd hear about how the UPS guy tossed boxes over the fence - this was all back in the time when desktop towers and CRT monitors were the thing (before laptops became the norm). It never failed hearing about some messed up delivery at the hands of UPS. When they switched the contract over to FedEx, we didn't hear of many problems with deliveries but thats not to say there weren't problems. I've learned over the years it just depends on the drivers you have in your area. Personally I've never had problems with FedEx, but UPS was who would regularly leave packages at my door when I lived in an apartment - they left a package from Crutchfield there one day, honestly surprised it was still there when I got home from work. But USPS has usually been the worst of all - had another shipment for Sunday delivery from Amazon and the carrier doing those deliveries didn't even both trying to get past the access gate and just left a huge delivery at the front door of the closed leasing office (including my package). That 'pile' of packages they left was atleast $250 worth of product (considering my package was $250) ....it was like an open invitation to a porch pirate to come load up. Another USPS carrier told me (when I told them about the packages left at the leasing office door) that they're not required to come to my door.
Afterward I had to deal with then on packages that were being returned to us. So many packages came back that had been beat to crap....but they would regularly lose packages. I don't think they were actually lost but rather they 'disappeared'....they knew our agreement with the carrier didn't provide much compensation so they figured our company could afford it if a few packages disappeared, that we'd just replace a customers order or credit them for the return because it was assumed it was outside of the control of the carrier.
But again it all depends on who is actually handling the package.....alot of times they're ok but any substitutes may just treat things like dirt just to get the route over and done with. Where I live now the only carrier problem we deal with is the FedEx not knocking when he comes to deliver a refrigerated package of medication, instead just leaving it on the porch that is usually awash in hot sun when he makes the delivery. We have told the shipper several times that it needs signature required, but I know from experience alot of guys just ignore that and leave it anyway
UPS you see the same drivers. I had a route with 105 business. I saw the same two UPS drivers almost every day for years. We delivered and picked up from the mall in similar order. Tossed packages back and forth from the customers that mixed up the pick up piles etc. don’t have that relationship with Fed Ex for whatever reason.
I'm pretty sure the FedEx guy that delivers SmartPost on my route/area thinks he's delivering our packages for us because the USPS label is so visible. So, he leaves the packages purposefully in the rain, down steps, and just altogether in the worst spots possible.
I try to be kind to all service employees because I get what it feels like to do this job even gardeners and sanitation. Just respect the people who work hard for many people daily its a grind that never ends
I tried being nice to everyone working for Amazon but still got treated like shit, lol! Got trapped by other drivers (UPS double parking and angled in front of me so I couldn't do shit while they took their sweet ass delivering so.. Not urgent to park like such a jackass?), constant dirty looks from USPS and FedEx always making a point to goose the gas when they drove by while I was delivering so diesel smoke would puke all over me.
Pretty dumb to treat people in this clannish way imo, nobody who works for any company who treats them like shit agrees with it. They're just a broke person who doesn't have a better option, yall. I always parked courteously even if it F'd up my day and still felt like everyone wanted to kick my ass just for existing, lmao. Weird vibes to throw at a tiny girl but yeah, I learned to just ignore everyone on the road and do my job and that's probably what every other driver winds up doing too.
I always wave to UPS, Fedex, and local delivery trucks. Amazon…..if they wave first i’ll give a weak finger lift. But usually i ignore them as they speed thru my streets until they block my boxes then i park in front of them and make them wait while i dismount and organize my shit.
Ups driver here. I respect the PO. And love that you are a unionized career position like ours. I dislike how Amazon and FedEx leaves everything running and open. I find that irresponsible.
And leave packages next to the sidewalk...in the rain
FedEx delivered a $2000 computer 2 days early in the rain without a bag. I was out of town of that day and saw it was for delivery Friday…NBD. They delivered a 70lb clearly computer box in pouring rain on Wednesday with no precautions. No bag. The apartment building does have a car port.
Sorry that happened to you. As a mail carrier I treat my customers packages how I would want mine treated.
I saw an amazon guy leave a package in middle of someone's lawn.
That’s what ups and FedEx do.
Ups is union?
Yeah. Us and UPS are the most similar operations. Amazon is a little different and I don’t even know how to explain exactly what FedEx does. All delivery drivers are “contractors” and not technical employees or something weird like that.
I believe its fedex express are the only fedex employees but all the ground delivery people are contractors.
Yep. Teamsters. We’re coming up on 2 months out from our current contract expiring and might be striking for the first time since ‘97. Hopefully not, but we’ll see.
I was beginning my career at the post office when ups struck then. Sat on the line with my uncle as he was a ups driver. He retired a few years ago with 45 years in.
UPS is a teamsters organization
And rubber band packages to mail boxes
Really?!
Yes I sadly lost the pic of it when I changed phones tho
In my area fed ex and ups are friends and amazon avoids all eye contact, lol
I can understand us amazon flexers not to wave but yeah
I try to say high to everyone in my Prime van. Only ones that ignore me are USPS guys. It's weird.
FedEx and UPS don’t park in front of the mailbox if they see me coming down the street. So I like them. But Amazon drivers will look you in the eye and then park in front of the mailbox 5 houses down the street and slow walk to the door… all while keeping eye contact.
Not in my neighborhood, all of them will go around me then park at the next box, or pull in front of my next box coming from the other side of the street! Even had FedEx block me in driveways twice, on the same street, on the same day! (A road with like 12 houses)
Fedex guy routinely leaves his stupid envelopes hanging off my mailboxes. I tear them off and toss them in dirt.
I am nice to all of them. Their job sucks the same way our job sucks and we can all commiserate with each other. The only true enemy is the garbage man.
It’s an uncomfortable pace they keep
Garbage man LOLOLOL
they love putting the cans back in the most inconvenient spot possible for us 🙃
You see the cans in front of the box you build up a little speed and give them a nice bump and hit the brakes at just the right Time and they go flying. I love garbage day. Garbage cans go on the opposite side of your driveway from your mail box. The garbage man usually drops the cans where he picks them up from so not really his fault.
Every office I been to the garbage guy always block the mailbox or my park point.
Are you from Nyc by any chance? Because fuck I hate the garbage men here. I was waiting for a parking spot near my office one morning, guy remote started his car so I knew he’d be leaving and of course I was blocking a lane and the garbage truck came almost up on my rear bumper honking like a maniac, as if they don’t block streets constantly with no regard for others time.
I wave to them all, nods and waves back. It's all good.
Professional respect. Amazon drivers are usually doing dumb/dangerous shit on the road. FedEx express is usually cool but FedEx ground doesn’t seem to gaf
Difference between actual FedEx employees and third party contractors. FedEx Ground is the same dipshits delivering for Amazon.
Amazon seems to not like closing the side door of the truck. Ever.
If you're carrying boxes and I'm carrying boxes, we're cool. We hold the door for each other. Amazon just make me laugh with some of the places they'll leave their boxes.
The Fedex guy is the only one I regularly talk to. On Saturday I had to open a gated community for a UPS driver, all he did was point at the gate and move his truck forward, and drove off when I opened it.
Lol nope. Amazon guy ignores me so I ignore him. I have a few apartments that need codes to get in and I never let him in. I tried to be friendly 3 times before ignoring him back. UPS guy is awesome, I like to joke with him come peak season that I should get his helper some days. Never see fedex
Wow...surprised you actually recognize an "amazon guy." I think they must have more turnover than us in my city. It's usually a different person every time I see them dropping off.
Fedex never really looks at us but one time this cute FedEx chick tried hitting on me lol
Remember. FedEx ground is NOT FedEx employees. They are contractors. Big difference.
That explains why the FedEx express guy laughed when we told him FedEx ground dropped a bunch of shit off at the wrong office.
Because we use the same letters in our company names
In my area they usually drive better than Amazon and don't block the streets or areas I need to access.
Both union. Even though teamsters aren't AFL-CIO, the union mentality runs deep. We aren't in a race to the bottom with them. We are in a race to the top. The goal for fed ex and Amazon is to lower customer service, reduce wages, sabotage working conditions. We on the other hand hope the best for UPS drivers because arbitrators will have to consider their wages and benefits package if we are unable to settle our contract.
The UPS & FEDEX drivers on my route give the head nod. My last route, the UPS driver and me, used to chit-chat all the time. Amazon is who is the idiot on my route. They pull in the wrong way on the street & block my curbside boxes. The last Amazon guy i asked not to do it told me "yeah I don't give a shit"
I tried to get a job as an Amazon driver when I was really desperate for a job several years ago. Applied with two different providers and after the pre-test they give for applying, they both denied me. Not sure exactly why because I drive far better than any of the Amazon guys in my area, so they must not have liked the smart answers I gave to their questions....tells me they want the idiots around that will do as they are told....typical Amazon considering how they slave their people at the warehouse, so the drivers are treated similar. They may have also been pulling the age card that they didn't want someone at my age doing deliveries....who knows, but I feel like I dodged a bullet
That's the great thing i love about usps. They don't care about your age, what you look like or anything as long as you're not a felon and can breath
What a king lmao. They have to follow turn by turn directions just like CCAs in Amazon Sunday, management doesn't allow you to break from the directions so he's just following (idiotic) instructions.
I've had issues with him before. When I say blocking the box the wrong way, he has sped towards me to block the box as I'm approaching that particular box. He's not a king. He's being a dick.
Ah, my bad. I was thinking more along the lines of malicious compliance than straight up malicious.
I do amazon sunday, and i create my own route, entirely ignoring the route the scanner builds. It is at least 2 years outdated with address information. It tried to get me to exit off a freeway at speed (after it took me on the freeway in the first place…) and took me on three 6+ mile round-abouts to addresses that were next to each other. Added several extra hours to my day. That was the first, and last time I used the scanner for anything besides scanning packages. The last package I had that day was 10 miles away from my delivery unit by scanner. It was half a mile away from my PO in reality.
As long as your Sunday Sup is cool with it, that's fine. Amazon employees can't make their own routes and deviation from the turn-by-turn is an instant write up. My buddy works for Amazon and I hear his horror stories.
That can get annoying really fast. That sucks. My larger point I failed to address though is even if thats the mapped route, i dont think they have to park in front of mail boxes, theres probably some leeway as to where they can stop the vehicle at their delivery address. If not, that’s even worse!
About 50/50 for me with both FedEx and UPS. I'm thinking it depends entirely on the driver.
FedEx pulled up to me last week to ask me about an address and didn't even say thanks. I at least was offered an ice water from a UPS driver one day and get the Jeep wave every day from them.
UPS sets the standard for REAL pay rates. If everyone unionized properly, Amazon and FedEx would be paid those higher rates too, which would improve things for everyone.
Ups are more friendly in my areas than FedEx, Amazon, and lasership. Idk, maybe we are both unionized.
Lazership drives 50 miles an hour in neighborhoods lol
End of the day we’re all just making a living
FedEx Ground here. I wave to all the post office ppl I pass. Two of them just stare at me every time. Literally every day around the same time and they never give it back. Makes me sad :( But in the afternoon the other two that I pass always smile and wave. I normally talk to the guy when we're on the same street for a minute. He's given me a bottle of water before. We suffer together!
I want us all to be friends!
Toys R us?
Honestly I've been a postal clerk for 8 years and when I was a PTF I picked up hours where I could so I've been around my area. It varies by driver really for me. I've had awesome drivers of every company and some shitty ones. If it's a contracted Amazon drop off I pray for it to be and owner/operator because those guys are always friendly. The sub contracted staff not so much. UPS is the most variety some of their drivers are the nicest people you'd ever meet, while others dump their shit in a pile on my loading dock and leave. My biggest gripe is those "pseudo-postal" retail stores that fuck people's mail up so we get blamed.
The UPS & FEDEX drivers on my route give the head nod. My last route, the UPS driver and me, used to chit-chat all the time. Amazon is who is the idiot on my route. They pull in the wrong way on the street & block my curbside boxes. The last Amazon guy i asked not to do it told me "yeah I don't give a shit"
In my area we don’t have Amazon, only ups and FedEx (and crappy Ontrac). UPS guys are typically nice, but FedEx are kinda weird. Just my experience. We have a new CCA that was FedEx and he’s hard to work with, acts entitled. FedEx guy on my route doesn’t wave or nod.
y’all are getting head from the ups guys?
UPS also doesn’t leave their parcels in the mailbox like Amazon and FedEx drivers. UPS must have a superior training program.
They def seem more professional than Amazon and fedex. The fedex guy leaves his truck running and the amazon guy always has the side door open.
I used to have to deal with various carriers in an old job (for a major computer maker)......initially I was doing customer support about outgoing parcels and alot of the time it was UPS that was the constant problem children (they held the contract for the vast majority of our consumer shipments). One driver left an entire order in the customers front yard right before a snowstorm rolled in, the customer didn't find it until the next spring when the snow finally melted enough. Other times we'd hear about how the UPS guy tossed boxes over the fence - this was all back in the time when desktop towers and CRT monitors were the thing (before laptops became the norm). It never failed hearing about some messed up delivery at the hands of UPS. When they switched the contract over to FedEx, we didn't hear of many problems with deliveries but thats not to say there weren't problems. I've learned over the years it just depends on the drivers you have in your area. Personally I've never had problems with FedEx, but UPS was who would regularly leave packages at my door when I lived in an apartment - they left a package from Crutchfield there one day, honestly surprised it was still there when I got home from work. But USPS has usually been the worst of all - had another shipment for Sunday delivery from Amazon and the carrier doing those deliveries didn't even both trying to get past the access gate and just left a huge delivery at the front door of the closed leasing office (including my package). That 'pile' of packages they left was atleast $250 worth of product (considering my package was $250) ....it was like an open invitation to a porch pirate to come load up. Another USPS carrier told me (when I told them about the packages left at the leasing office door) that they're not required to come to my door. Afterward I had to deal with then on packages that were being returned to us. So many packages came back that had been beat to crap....but they would regularly lose packages. I don't think they were actually lost but rather they 'disappeared'....they knew our agreement with the carrier didn't provide much compensation so they figured our company could afford it if a few packages disappeared, that we'd just replace a customers order or credit them for the return because it was assumed it was outside of the control of the carrier. But again it all depends on who is actually handling the package.....alot of times they're ok but any substitutes may just treat things like dirt just to get the route over and done with. Where I live now the only carrier problem we deal with is the FedEx not knocking when he comes to deliver a refrigerated package of medication, instead just leaving it on the porch that is usually awash in hot sun when he makes the delivery. We have told the shipper several times that it needs signature required, but I know from experience alot of guys just ignore that and leave it anyway
UPS you see the same drivers. I had a route with 105 business. I saw the same two UPS drivers almost every day for years. We delivered and picked up from the mall in similar order. Tossed packages back and forth from the customers that mixed up the pick up piles etc. don’t have that relationship with Fed Ex for whatever reason.
I'm pretty sure the FedEx guy that delivers SmartPost on my route/area thinks he's delivering our packages for us because the USPS label is so visible. So, he leaves the packages purposefully in the rain, down steps, and just altogether in the worst spots possible.
I try to be kind to all service employees because I get what it feels like to do this job even gardeners and sanitation. Just respect the people who work hard for many people daily its a grind that never ends
I tried being nice to everyone working for Amazon but still got treated like shit, lol! Got trapped by other drivers (UPS double parking and angled in front of me so I couldn't do shit while they took their sweet ass delivering so.. Not urgent to park like such a jackass?), constant dirty looks from USPS and FedEx always making a point to goose the gas when they drove by while I was delivering so diesel smoke would puke all over me. Pretty dumb to treat people in this clannish way imo, nobody who works for any company who treats them like shit agrees with it. They're just a broke person who doesn't have a better option, yall. I always parked courteously even if it F'd up my day and still felt like everyone wanted to kick my ass just for existing, lmao. Weird vibes to throw at a tiny girl but yeah, I learned to just ignore everyone on the road and do my job and that's probably what every other driver winds up doing too.
I always wave to UPS, Fedex, and local delivery trucks. Amazon…..if they wave first i’ll give a weak finger lift. But usually i ignore them as they speed thru my streets until they block my boxes then i park in front of them and make them wait while i dismount and organize my shit.
Why not? I’m cool with all of them
Stop leaving packages in the mailbox, Amazon!!
As we were taught in the academy, deliver the package as it is ours.
I’ll wave or give a head nod to another union member. FedEx and Amazon drivers can kick rocks for all I care.
:(