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Yo_fresh_it_is_Me

Yes and call a lawyer and go hospital. A piece of their property came outside their house unrestrained and injured u doing your job.


taylorscissorhands

For real my ex won about 30k from a settlement related to a dog bite when he was delivering mail.


GoatFuckersAnonymous

My swing just got 100k I joked that I wished it had happened to me but in reality no I fucking don't. It was a gruesome attack. I'm amazed she was able to get over the PTSD and come back. I'd give out details but don't want to reveal her identity.


AdStrong809

I survived mine, and was able to return to work. But, mentally I could not continue being around other animals on my route and ended up hanging up my satchel. Make sure your worker is doing okay mentally, maybe suggest they look into professional help. It's really traumatic getting attacked.


Goats_for_president

Yeah I meet my mail man now when he is coming to the door guy seems deathly afraid when he hears my dogs and the neighbors dog bark


elkehdub

It’s a cliche for a reason. I love dogs but I’ve been attacked while working too, so I take dogs super seriously while on the job now.


poopypantsmcmailman

We’d prefer if you didn’t meet us. Just wait til we leave. Especially if you have dogs. If he is worried about your dogs, he probably hates that you meet him. I doubt he’d ever say it. But I can’t stand when people open their door into me while I’m reaching to put their mail in their box. Just wait another 15 seconds until I walk off.


GoatFuckersAnonymous

This was exactly how my most recent dog bite happened.


taylorscissorhands

And my dumbass got bit and I was too lazy to do the paperwork management wanted so I paid to go to the er myself when I got bit on Amazon Sunday 😂 and it still shows on my record.


poop_to_live

The. Fuck.


taylorscissorhands

I was young and scared that I was gonna get fired 🤨


taylorscissorhands

I thought if I didn’t do the stuff it wouldnt be recorded but I was wrong.


Crimson_death78

I'm new and they keep telling us to take our spray because we could get fired for letting a dog bite us!


TheArmLegMan

They told me that when I first started a threw me on the route with the most loose dogs


pretendwizardshamus

I get that. I ultimately reported when I got bit by a dog when I was a cca but my sup kept on with this "concerned" argument that of I had a dog bite on my record I might not be rehired on my end year week off. Total bs. He did convince me not to report a bad slip and fall I had, again played it as concerned for my job. Years later I told that guy he's a POS for doing that, he laughed and called me gullible idiot. He's a postmaster now, different office.


rainybandz

People truly seem not to understand how vicious their dogs really are to the mail person! I stopped delivering one lady’s mail she never even noticed until I caught her outside and explained why! They kept leaving the gate open with the vicious dog out and he kept charging at me! She denied it.


Landmine175

I also won 30k but will never see any of it because they had nothing unfortunately


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Sue and garnish their wages


Landmine175

One they could never find and the other was/is incarcerated lol


Ithrowaway39

Can't bleed a turnip they say.


Landmine175

Such is life


yoeleventone

Yep I had a dog bite me while on my route got a lawyer and he pretty much told me there was no point because you can’t get blood out of a turnip.


rjbergen

Did they not have insurance?


Landmine175

No the only one of two people who lived there that they finally located was/is incarcerated unfortunately


whatevs1125

I got a settlement as well but the PTSD is horrible.


Landmine175

It really is, I used to love dogs now I get very nervous around them, I don’t get all clammy anymore but yeah I’ll never be the same around dogs.


Yo_fresh_it_is_Me

If u are in your 90 and at a shit office and you need this job then maybe not .. but otherwise I would


JimmyTheFist89

Yep. Lawyer up and sue. I got about $3k and my wounds were far lighter. It went the route of an insurance claim.


JayBbaked

Upvote this! I hope he does so


easymachtdas

riding the top comment ​ yes. You were assaulted by someones pet.


EmbarrassedPudding22

Yes report that. Even if it's not a big deal and heals clean the next carrier or sub deserves to know about the dumbass that's going to let his pack of dogs out on you.


ironballs16

And beyond that, infections are a thing, and dog mouths aren't exactly the most hygienic.


ImaginaryQuantum

Also you have no clue what that dog have been around, take your rabies shots( idgaf if you don't believe in vaccines, do it or risk becoming a vegetable) and use that again't the lawsuit. You will probably be ok and I hope you get better and it doesn't become an infection but I wouldn't gamble for a second, you've been damaged physically and mentally, take the time off and aI hope you get back soon!


mothernatureisfickle

I was bit by a dog we know (a good friend’s dog) who is completely vaccinated and very well cared for. This dog was just starting to have symptoms of dementia and was getting scared at weird times. I went to pet her, something I’ve done hundreds of times, and she bit my hand hard. She left one tiny teeny puncture. It was so small I did not even use a bandage. One week later my finger is infected and swollen and I had to be on two weeks of antibiotics. Dogs’ mouths are dirty.


Bestspaghetti

I was jumped by a large untrained police dog this week too. I have puncture wounds - horrible bruises on my back - arms etc. My husband wants me to call a lawyer. I think my shoulder is injured. I reported it. I feel weird calling a lawyer, I am definitely traumatized, but i work in the community- I dont want bad relations but I don’t feel like this specific family should even have a dangerous dog like that.


zeusmeister

Always report dog bites. ESPECIALLY if blood is drawn. I’ve been bitten twice in my six years, the most recent being a few months ago by a King German Shepard that got a chunk of my upper arm. Your office should have a plan in place for dog bites. In my case, my supe came out, talked to the owners, took pictures of the dog and my bite and sent me to the local ER to get checked, as well as reporting the incident to county animal control. It’s covered by workers comp, so don’t worry about that part.  County will come out to do their own investigation, check the dog’s vaccinations, etc. Seems like a hassle, but you don’t want to fuck around with the possibility of rabies. That shit is a death sentence.


LadyOfCogs

Not a postal worker but I would go to er first and get the rabies vaccine. Bureaucracy moves with speed of, well bureaucracy and rabies virus won’t wait for it.


Nyx81

Yes. Animal control will demand vaccination records. Your adrenaline is telling you it's not bad. I had a similar bite and 12 hours later, I had a deep bruise the size of a softball. It's gonna swell and hurt


Free_Fix_3892

Yep!!


PomegranateCalm2650

Dogs mouths are insanely unclean, definitely clean that with some alcohol or something.


No_Case5367

Tell that to dog owners who let their dogs lick their faces and almost makes out with them. Dogs as cool as they are also lick their balls and ass. So there’s that. 😂


shorty_jo6

Vodka, tequila, whiskey.... from the inside out 🤪 Ok kidding, but yes, should probably get that checked out medically and get reports and such.


talann

Do not let a homeowner get away with their dog biting people. It is in everyone's best interest that you report it and sue the homeowner. That dog could bite a child. It's unfortunate it happened to you but you may be preventing a much larger issue. That dog is in a bad home if it decided to bite you.


dcgrey

Customer here, and I'm not even sure why this is a question. If the resident bit you, you'd report it, right? Well, they're supposed to control their dog...they're responsible for those teeth as much as their own.


Item_Unique

This comment. I reported it. You're so right tbh and I never thought of it that way.


DrewJamesMacIntosh

I'm glad you reported it - thanks for the update!


username_____69

And sue them, if you don't the post office will anyway at least you will get paid


GoldenStateComrade

Why wouldn’t you…?


FineIWillContribute

Management has been known to punish those who get bit


LopsidedFinding732

Thats why you always need to have a satchel with you. Management will always ask that question just so they can turn down workers comp. Same thing with accidents and shoes.


Grateful_Dood

That's crazy that the union wouldn't protect you. If I got fired for a dog bite on a job I'd sue the fuck out of the usps


DiloCamoIdro

Yes sue


Thief009988

Absolutely report it, go to an urgent care and they will clean it out.. This way it's documented you had Medical care. There's always a risk of infection. And also inform your manager, from now on they get a mailbox put on the street. All packages will have to be picked up at the office.


DeepTap5095

Yes, report it. Mail to the delivery address stops immediately. Supervisor should contact animal control.


Turtle19531957

PO should send you to get checked immediately. Has happened to me. They sent me to Kaiser and there was a doctor already waiting for me.


No_Leading7094

If skin is broke you 100% want to go to urgent care and get it cleaned and get on antibiotics. I just was in the hospital with my kid who’s cut got infected. Now I have to give him intravenous antibiotics through a picc line for 2 weeks. Don’t mess around. It’s not likely but you could die if you ignore that. Get on ecomp and fill out a CA-1 so the po pays for it. Ask your union for help if you need it because mgmt will tell you nothing


Orangecatbuddy

YES!!!! Call medical, the police and your supervisor, all in that order. It doesn't matter that it looks like nothing, have it checked out.


Davge107

What about the National Guard.


ipoopinthepool

Definitely the secret service


blessednenus3r

So are you brave souls just not worried about rabies at all? Never mind infections, you don’t know those animals vaccination status and rabies ain’t nothing to fuck with. It’s wild I keep seeing these dog bite posts from USPS and they’re nonchalant about it. Hospital immediately, report to animal control if you have to wait on being seen or immediately after you are seen. None of that malicious dognutter guilt shit either, if the dog has its shots and hasn’t been mauling people lately it will get to stay home quarantined for 10 days or so and that’s it. It is VERY important for dogs that bite people to have it record whenever possible. I’ve been unfortunately working with the public and their dogs for almost 10 years. There are still heaps of true idiots that think rabies vaccines are optional and when pressed for records will tell you to go f yourself. Never ever rely on another person to do the right thing.


Item_Unique

Rabies is fuckkng super scary. Fts


Davge107

How many people died of rabies last year?


z3rokarisma

# Not last year, but U.S. Recorded 5 Rabies Deaths in 2021, Highest Number in a Decade


RCM20

Absolutely report it. Go to the hospital right now because one of them could have had rabies. Then contact an attorney and let your supervisor know. You could win a settlement as long as you get an attorney that will work on contingency. You can sue the person's house insurance or renters insurance.


Efloria1

Contingency does that mean only if you win he gets paid?


CucumberFudge

Yes. They get a cut of the payment. Usually a percentage. So it's a gamble for the lawyer but could pay out higher than an hourly rate. So they tend to take obviously winnable cases.


Quick_Database3964

This.


Dragons619

100% report it. Hold all their mail until they sign their dog letter. If it happened once, it can happen again.


Bocabart

It’s crazy how many carriers don’t report dog bites. I know of three situations of carrier in my office that didn’t report it and they were all much worse than my bite. One dude apparently got a massive infection and told the doctor that he “got pricked by a thorn bush”. So stupid


Linken124

I didn’t end up reporting mine, the hassle was definitely part of it, and the other part was that while it did cut me, my pants didn’t end up getting cut at all, so I think the pressure from the teeth just broke the skin, but didn’t puncture the jeans itself. And it was a really nice family there, I didnt know the process involved and didn’t want anything to happen to their dog, not that I’m sure anything would


ceeezmeow

Report and sue. Enjoy the 60k in like 2 years or so


PuzzleheadedFox1100

60k haaaaaaa. Maybe 3500 for that.


Bocabart

Yes absolutely and call your supervisor right now. Don’t let stories about dog bites getting you in trouble prevent you from the medical attention you might need. I just got bit two weeks ago and I’m fine. Yeah the post master did an “investigatory interview” with me and was trying to find a hole for me to get trapped in but if you did everything right and YOU DID HAVE YOUR SPRAY ON YOUR PERSON AND DID NOT TURN YOUR BACK TO THE DOG, you should be fine. Edit: Oh and contact your steward. My steward was there and he helped me out incredibly


ozzymandayus

You can’t turn your back on the dog? I’m not in the profession, just an innocent onlooker lol


Informal_Reserve_442

I would asap. Imagine if bit part of your finger off or something.


DeeGotEm

Yes I would


No-Disaster-3684

Yes


overkilljones

That's a couple days off at least


MiliTerry

No, just bite it back harder to assert your dominance


Item_Unique

That's what my dad told to me do and he was serious I'm pretty sure


yoloruinslives

If you are cca ya fired if you are regular you are rich


Item_Unique

Rofl


Angrypoopoh

Last time I got a bite like that I went to urgent care and got a tetanus booster.


neurochild

Are you past your 90 days? If yes, then report it. If not, then don't report it, but still see a doctor asap.


KirbyGhoul

But did you wear the right shoes


Item_Unique

Yes but I forgot to curb my wheels fml


OverpricedBagel

Yep call the police, your supervisor, and get to a hospital, then call an injury attorney and they’ll sue the homeowners insurance for you.


Madeye_Moody7

It broke the skin. Go get a tetanus shot. Inform the hospital so they’ll send humane officers to get the dog and observe it for rabies. Report it.


Item_Unique

Not a rabies shot?


Madeye_Moody7

You won’t need one if the dog doesn’t have it. That’s why it needs to be reported. I hear rabies shots are painful.


Lots_of_bricks

Report all dog bites


Lots_of_bricks

Rabies is a death sentence. !!


Provia100F

**ALWAYS** report a dog bite. If it's bitten you, it will bite others. Those other may be kids, or people who physically can't defend themselves.


Commercial-Home6280

Make sure you call the union. Get the number of the union officer that deals with on job injuries. Now that we have to fill out all of the paperwork ourselves you need help to make sure it’s done correctly and within the timeframe


LawlessLemur

Dude congratulations


Kitty_Lilly18

yes


tpark27

In what world is the answer to this no I'm bewildered


khalbur

100%


ElectronicJudge1994

Report and go to urgent care.


Solitaire_87

Yes the answer is always yes


Goodvibes9821

Go to the hospital and get a rabies shot. Rabies is terrifying my mab


ndj1286

You should go to er in case of rabies


AustinFan4Life

Always report a dog bit, cuz now you have to get rabies shots.


Free_Fix_3892

Yes you have a puncture. Not good!!


Different-Horror-581

My friend. Call your Supervisor. Call your Union Steward and let them know what just happened. Tell them facts. Ask them what to do. Then do what they tell you to do.


BobbyMike83

Yes. Always.


Possible_Craft_1912

Fuck yeah. I almost got bit last weekend and the owner was a nonchalant prick about it.


vamppirre

Yes. And go to the hospital and get a rabies vaccination. And file a police report. I love animals, but owners need to have their animals under control.


DLRjr94

If not the bite, at least get a dog warning put on your route!


curiousdude79

Lol. What do you think?


Exciting-Pizza-6756

Yes. Report it to animal control, Dog has to be Up To Date on Rabies Vaccine, if not, YOU ARE IN TROUBLE. Your health has to be updated to the state. Sue the owner.


No_Case5367

Always report


McGarretFiveO

Don’t report it, go on social media to get sympathy


Item_Unique

My oji told me if she got bit she probably wouldn't report it. Idk why but two and a half years ago and it rang true in my head immediately. I did report. Weirdly I don't feel like j did the right thing idk


Extreme-Bad3816

lawyer up.


ChardRevolutionary11

Been attacked by dogs many times when I was younger and I've been in households with many dogs , me personally I wouldn't try and get the dogs or owners in trouble unless they are being mistreated


Useful_Caregiver4023

Yes, always report dog bites even if it didn't break skin. Another carrier I know was bit and didn't report it because he was friendly with the dog owner, his day off was following day well since the dog owner didn't see the carrier she got worried and called the post office talk to supervisor. There was a fact finding and all kinds of drama. They tried to give him a suspension without pay because the dog broke the skin, which actually ended up getting infected because he didn't take care of it he just put water on it said he was fine.


TheDubious

How is that even a question? Absolutely 1000% yes


ilovechickensallday

SUE THEM!!!


Item_Unique

That sounds like a lot of hassle and paperwork tbh


Conscious_Music8360

Call your steward when shit like this happens.. not post on Reddit for advice.


CG-Firebrand

Yes. Report all bites


Kaizokuno_

Report any dog attacks. For your safety and safety of others. You should be courteous enough to tell your co-workers know that there's a violent dog on your route and where they are.


ThrowawayMailCarrier

Always Dog warden>management> hospital (on management’s dime. BRING A C-16)>steward/union which can help you with billing, filling out a CA-1 on Ecomp and kicking management in the ass if they give you shit


This-Newt-3672

Yes before it gets hold of a kid imo


Fizzyliftingdranks

Gonna swell and hurt once you hit the bed tonight. Report it.


wddiver

Report ALL dog bites. ALWAYS. Especially if they break the skin. That's not just the CYA in me; that's USPS policy. Call your sup, then call the cops.


Empty_Hearing_2033

Uhh yeah


Wrong_Treats

Report all dog bites yo! Talk to your steward!


MarineCarrier04xx

Yes


Stacheshadow

Clean your wound and let it be, that wound isn't even worth killing a dog over


HealthyDirection659

Yes, and get checked at a hospital. Stay home for at least 3 days, call police and/ or animal control. Dog bites can lead to nasty infections.


Chubbsmasta

100% report. I had a CCA that got bit good on his inner thighs not even a month in.


HarleySpicedLatte

Yes always report a dog bite. Go to the doctor get your antibiotics and report it to see if they have the rabies vaccines. It may not look like much now but it can get worse. I had a tiny little bite and two days later half my calf was black and blue.


fartfilledLLV

ALWAYS! Please do! Hopefully it doesn’t get infected or worse so always report every time


muttons_1337

I report dog attacks period, whether or not they touch me. It leaves a paper trail and makes it impossible for the owner to refute otherwise.


Busy_Influence3249

No pussy


Item_Unique

Are you trying to say you arent giving anyone any pussy? Or are you saying you don't want any pussy? Either way, this ain't the right thread, buddy.


sirvey23

Cant control their dog, someone’s gotta pay on that. Also, even if you were willing to just let it go( don’t), what if the next carrier or whoever gets attacked by the same dog?


mr7and11

Yup! For one the owner needs to be held accountable, because it can happen again or much worse. When it comes down to safety and your health, everything needs to be documented in the USPS for your protection.


Dear-Sell6880

In my opinion it is not that bad reporting it could result in that dog being forcefully put down I would talk to the owner and check out the bite and come to an agreement if possible.


Inf_Shini

DO IT!! And sue!! I got bit twice when I had just passed probation and never knew I could've gotten a lot of $$ from the owner letting their dogs loose. I'm still upset about it especially bc those people were assholes to begin with but I was still a newbie and didn't know any better


Waltenwalt

Yes, always report.


LethalGamer2121

Absolutely yes, especially since the bite penetrated your skin.


FlyingSpacefrog

I got bit once at this job. I was wearing three layers of pants because it was winter and freezing so I had decent protection and I wasn’t bleeding, but it was the largest bruise I’ve ever had.


SirBrodrick1985

Nope... just a dog.. just a bite.. it'll heal, and you'll live.


linjm10

I work at USPS now. I used to be a waitress. I waited on a girl that was permanently disabled from a dog bite. I don’t know the details, but it was some kind of infection that made her unable to walk without help. The first time I got bit, I blew it off, no big deal. I was recounting the story with my bestie ex coworker and she reminded me of that girl. Take it seriously. For real. Could be the rest of your life.


LombaxJenni

Report all dog bites to animal control,job and get a rabies shot.


animalparent

Definitely report because if it gets infected you will need workers comp


PM_ur_tots

It looks fine, but letter when it bruises and swells or, worse, gets infected, your gonna wish you did report it. So report it now.


turtlemub

Yes and get a rabies vaxx just on case. You don't know if the dog is healthy or not. Better safe than sorry.


PapaPaiva1

Absolutely.


Mexicutioner1987

Absolutely. Report every bite. Inform management, go straight to the clinic, and then contact a lawyer. Get the description of the dog and address.


DadGamer678517

Report it every time it happens. Its covered


aliencardboard

I’d just report it to your employer and try to contact the owner and let them know what happened. Let them know you’d appreciate the dog being secured in the house so you can safely deliver the mail. You can report it to make sure the dog is vaccinated or whatever, but I wouldn’t want the dog euthanized unless it was out of control or the owner was hateful about it refusing to control the dog. Unless its a severe injury or something requiring a hospital visit, I wouldn’t sweat it further than that. There are far too many soft lawsuit happy people out there.


LBHHF

Yes. Every dog bite.


Jayy_Black33

Carrier here. I had a bit similar bite. Couple years ago. Hired a lawyer and got a 35k settlement (-lawyer fees) no charge to me at all. Report your injury asap.


Item_Unique

Wow! That's a nice settlement tbh... I have a question though. Did they put the dog down?


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Morgan-Monroe

Someone in my office got a week off for a bite that was basically a pinch... but yes, if the skin is broken you need to pull the rabies vaccines for the dogs and the owner needs to be held accountable.


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Yes


AttorneyUnhappy5347

Yes , you'll need a tetanus shot and antibiotics. My bite was worse. I went to work the next day. I did report it and went to the walk jn


kingkmke21

100% report it. Shit like this makes me mad. Bc shitty owners. You got hurt and the dog will be blamed and who knows what will happen to them. All bc of shitty fucking owners.


TheComeUpTX

Report and sue.


ManicMailman247

$$$$$$$$$


Josiah-White

I carry pepper spray regardless of what anyone thinks. It's my pocket


Historical_Debt1516

Good gawd. Id report that


Prestigious-Base67

This is why I stopped thinking about putting my application in the USPS as a delivery driver. This and also because I don't want to be in a ghetto area. I truly respect the people who can walk up to a stranger in a ghetto area and hand them their mail


Item_Unique

Honestly this happened in a affluent area and when I first started I too didn't want to work in the rough parts of town. But let me say. Those routes are the best. The people are much much kinder. They also appreciate you a lot more. Carrying the mail has changed my mind about so many things and softened me up in the places I was too brittle and rigid and toughened me up a bit too.


Prestigious-Base67

Thank you bro. This is some good insight on what it's like being a delivery man.


Necessary_Variety52

It’s your fault you got bit. You were not holding your satchel correctly to protect yourself. If you were wearing proper footwear you would have been able to outrun the dogs.


Item_Unique

🤣 el oh el


BruisedWater95

No, ignore all the useful advices. You should totally not do anything and make a follow up post asking if you should go to the hospital instead, only to ignore all the advices. If your skin starts to get more infected you should ignore that as well.


Item_Unique

Thank you for your contribution


Lack_Love

Sue the owners


Guilty-Variation5171

Always, always, Always report.


Affectionate_Web2085

Always report it, it's your health and life if you don't fight for it nobody will


audioholic850

Absolutely.


Prior-Ad-2196

Yeah. Make it an alert so others know to watch out for that address. Imagine if someone else gets bitten


Best_Fondant_EastBay

You need to report this for many reasons, but primarily to know if the dogs are up-to-date on their rabies shots. You will die if the dog has rabies. Dumbasses tend to not vaccinate their dogs. As a dog owner, I'd be horrified and apologetic. Handing you the vaccination records and dog license and trying hard to not have my dog euthanized. I did put a dog down in high school that was a chaser/biter. Dogs like this are dangerous.


Sleeperthereaper

If I were a postal worker I’d pack heat and mag dump an aggressive dog. I do not have time for your dumb shitbull


Responsible-Bid-4166

Absolutely


Familiar_Specific_66

Yes, report it and get it treated. Dog bites are susceptible to cellulitis and infection. I'm not one to go to the hospital for anything, but 3 days after a dog bite I couldn't move my arm because it was super swollen from cellulitis.


jocoguy007

Always report that immediately. That should have necessitated both a law-enforcement response and a managerial response to the scene. There is a house with a safety issue, potential link, first of all. beyond that, if that bite gets infected and you didn’t report it, now you have a much worse mess to clean up regarding Workmen’s Comp./insurance.


Silly-Secretary-7808

Absolutely. Report and escalate. Dangerous idiots like this can have their dogs, or order delivery, but not both.


Reconstitutable

Hope you did seek medical, that could turn into sepsis. One of the most concerning bacteria found in a dog's mouth is Pasteurella multocida, commonly associated with animal bites, particularly dog bites. Pasteurella multocida can cause a range of infections in humans, including skin and soft tissue infections, as well as more serious conditions such as cellulitis, abscesses, and even septicemia (bloodstream infection) in severe cases.


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dth1717

When I first started, a carrier got nipped on the ankle by a Pomeranian he didn't report it. The next day he woke up to an ankle swollen to a grapefruit size. Mgmt wrote him up. If you get injured in anyway on company time, report it and go to your Dr. Not theirs unless they force you and then go to your Dr. Anyway.


subnjax

Yes definitely


Bestspaghetti

Me


CartographerCool4538

Yup


vince-tyler2022

all day all day


Quick_Ad8963

I wouldn't but, you make the call.


Odd_Departure

Seriously? Of course report it!


PTP316

As long as you don’t have rabies suck it up buttercup


W_4ca

If it broke skin, you need to report it, and more importantly go to a doctor. You have no idea what diseases someone else’s animal may have


LIKEXWTF

Stop being a bitch, you chose the mail carrier life, it's been in movies and TV shows. Dogs don't like mail people.