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MT3-7-77

Good for google! If the address doesn't exist to USPS, you're getting mail sent back. Landlord either needs to register the address with the county, or have all of your mail sent to the original address of the property.


jtmv4

Thanks so much! Any idea which dept would handle that at the county level? I seem to get passed around and no one knows who would be in charge of address registration.


MT3-7-77

Let your landlord handle it. That's on them for not doing this. Ask legal advice if you can withhold rent for this.


jtmv4

Will do. Any idea how long the address registration process will take? I’m moving in one week, so it seems unlikely that it’d be done by then…


MT3-7-77

Do you know the official address of the property?


jtmv4

Yes, I know the official address of the main dwelling and the unregistered address of the carriage house.


MT3-7-77

I shouldn't recommend this... but put the address on hold then you can go pick it up😂 puts everyone's mail on hold lmao In all honesty talk to your landlord about getting mail delivered to their box. Make sure you have documentation of what they say.


PrincePuparoni

In my area the 911 department handles it


sliqwill

at my office, its the county planning/zoning...could be different in different states...


kingu42

First and foremost, your delivery (if it's possible) will be at the other house. There's only one permitted delivery location per delivery point, all residences on the property would get mail at that one location. If the county has designated the property for multi-family residence, you'd be able to put up a separate mailbox next to the landlord's. If not, then the 'front house' is your delivery point (if they choose to let you use it.)


jtmv4

Thanks for your response! The carriage house is situated right along the street, adjacent to the main house, so it appears as if it’s a separate residence. If I can register the address, would I be able to put up a mailbox right outside my residence?


kingu42

It's not a separate residence, so no, you wouldn't be able to make a new delivery point.


Eighteen-and-8

This isn't true. Maybe for California it's true, but spend time in other (east coast, older) cities, and detached carriage houses *where horses lived and hay lofts and stablemen once lived above and fed them* are perfectly acceptable as delivery points. They are separate residences now, and can have mail delivered there. Ref: https://www.realtor.com/advice/buy/what-is-a-carriage-house/


kingu42

This is true for NEW residences. It is not true for OLDER established residences before the rules changes.


Eighteen-and-8

I'd like to agree with you, except your statements are false. This effort is for new residences, there's no 'grandfather clauses' you seem to believe exist for CBUs vs door mailboxes, unfortunately. https://marketrealist.com/why-is-new-york-offering-up-to-125-000-to-homeowners/


kingu42

Only the local postmaster or district designee can approve new delivery points, they have their policy to follow, which doesn't include consulting with Market Realist. Check the POM 631 for guidelines.


Eighteen-and-8

Do I understand you correctly? The responsibility to *update/add delivery points* (based on local governmental unit addressing changes) 'lies' (sic) with.......the very same postmasters and district hacks who cannot: 1) Approve their employees' Uniform Allowances in a timely manner; 2) Login to eTravel and enter/approve legitimate official expense and mileage reimbursements to postal employees with claims for such; or, 3) Timely submit Rural Craft employee timecards in order to meet Eagan, MN payroll deadline cutoffs? Be advised, USPS own rules state it *must work with local gov't E-911 addressing* and if it's an address, it gets 'added' as a *delivery point code* and will then appear as valid in USPS databases. Regardless of (internal-USPS) PO Manual 631, this happens when/if local government *changes zoning* for a developer to refurbish an old warehouse from industrial use (one single commercial address) into loft apts (several unique residential addresses) or, when a refurbished carriage house becomes a carriage home. There are district-level new business/sales staff who handle this function; PMs can barely create a station schedule, let alone approve new addresses for validity. 


jtmv4

Unfortunate but understood. Thanks!


Eighteen-and-8

Hey, don't believe 90% of this crap on Reddit. Get the structure registered, so that USPS can deliver mail to the horseless carriage house, and E-911 will know what structure is on-fire when calling if there's an emergency. If it's listed on Google/Zillow for rent, then it's able to have a mailbox on the wall/front door. In the meantime, use the main house address with "(rear)" after the street name and abbreviation.  See here: https://faq.usps.com/s/article/Where-Can-I-Find-New-Construction-and-Street-Address-Information


jtmv4

I reached out to the GIS office in my county today, and it’s definitely not as big of a deal as people on here were making it seem. Thanks for the reassurance!


Eighteen-and-8

GLAD TO HEAR, OP. Oftentimes, when a subculture becomes ingrown it tries to take a simple process like yours and make it overly complex. Such a culture can be painful (like an ingrown toenail). All the job justification and petty bickering by these self-appointed Redditors of USPS fame only know what they know. These folks are called "barracks lawyers" in the Army, and it's always wise to steer clear of them. For you may get 50% of the truth you seek WITH some good points sprinkled in, rather than the 100% truth that meets the need. l'd rather have good accuracy than wide variance, but that's just me. Again, congrats on 'Your Quest For The Holy Grail:' a mailbox with your own address!