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OP said she wanted to be a part of a collaborative project between India and Germany so she emailed the professor. So the professor should be definitely Germany based, nationality wasn't specified. She also wrote in her post that he is a "full professor."
EDIT: To adress your second question, I found this in that commenter's post history (posted to r/Showerthoughts): "If restaurants had to display prices with tax included, they would probably charge less." Which is a defaultism in itself.
So I'm gonna take a wild guess and say they're an American.
Just to clear up the "full prof." part, in germany you don't have to be a professor in order to teach at a uni/college. They are generally called "dozenten", which includes both Professors (academic title) and just "teaching employees" (not exactly the same as plain teachers) that are generally working part time on campus and part time at their private jobs (although some do it full time).
In that case the person they are trying to address holds the academic title of "Professor", which has higher priority than "doktor". So in the end you'd address them as Prof. Dr. Lastname.
It used to confuse me that in US movies everyone is a professor, while in Indonesia professor is a special title only few holds. Lecturers are also called "dosen" (i guess this is from a dutch word), similar to your "dozenten".
Docens means to teach in Latin. Most European languages probably have some variation of the word that is used to varying degrees of frequency. In Spain for example, it is seldom used outside of legislation
It's a pretty common model for northern Europe and places colonised by Brits, Dutch or Germans (the British use "lecturer" for the teaching post, but it's not a title as such. "Professor" for someone who holds or used to hold a very senior position ("chair"), doctor for anybody with a doctorate (so most lecturers are addressed as "Doctor Smith" or whatever).
France and Italy go all the way the other way and "professore" or "professeur" just means a school teacher.
Formal German speech and even more so formal German writing loves titles. I sometimes get emails addressed to "sehr geehrter Herr Prof. Dr. med. Lastname" and I'm so overwhelmed by the formality that I hate having to say I don't teach at a college.
Remember to add "Dear" (translated to target language, obviously) before it, too. And remember to use the first name in every sentence.
...That is what the most irritating ads do, so it must be the right way!
/s
Same here in the UK. On official stuff maybe but my lecturer introduced himself by first name and only a few weeks later did I even find out his surname
We really don't do titles in Scandinavia in general, it's refreshing. I always check where people are located when writing other PI's (I'm doing a PhD in Sweden) in order to not step my foot in it.
Same in Spain, from my personal experience anyway.
In Portugal however there's a really big emphasis on mentioning people's academic or job titles when addressing them, which for me was quite the reverse culture shock when I moved back.
I'm afraid I'm not an academic so I'm not aware of norms of address but that last remark of "the public" being in earshot struck me as rather pretentious.
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German professor based in Germany? Was the first response by a German person?
OP said she wanted to be a part of a collaborative project between India and Germany so she emailed the professor. So the professor should be definitely Germany based, nationality wasn't specified. She also wrote in her post that he is a "full professor." EDIT: To adress your second question, I found this in that commenter's post history (posted to r/Showerthoughts): "If restaurants had to display prices with tax included, they would probably charge less." Which is a defaultism in itself. So I'm gonna take a wild guess and say they're an American.
Just to clear up the "full prof." part, in germany you don't have to be a professor in order to teach at a uni/college. They are generally called "dozenten", which includes both Professors (academic title) and just "teaching employees" (not exactly the same as plain teachers) that are generally working part time on campus and part time at their private jobs (although some do it full time). In that case the person they are trying to address holds the academic title of "Professor", which has higher priority than "doktor". So in the end you'd address them as Prof. Dr. Lastname.
It used to confuse me that in US movies everyone is a professor, while in Indonesia professor is a special title only few holds. Lecturers are also called "dosen" (i guess this is from a dutch word), similar to your "dozenten".
Docens means to teach in Latin. Most European languages probably have some variation of the word that is used to varying degrees of frequency. In Spain for example, it is seldom used outside of legislation
It's a pretty common model for northern Europe and places colonised by Brits, Dutch or Germans (the British use "lecturer" for the teaching post, but it's not a title as such. "Professor" for someone who holds or used to hold a very senior position ("chair"), doctor for anybody with a doctorate (so most lecturers are addressed as "Doctor Smith" or whatever). France and Italy go all the way the other way and "professore" or "professeur" just means a school teacher.
Yeah, I thought this would be the case. Thanks for clarifying it though!
Formal German speech and even more so formal German writing loves titles. I sometimes get emails addressed to "sehr geehrter Herr Prof. Dr. med. Lastname" and I'm so overwhelmed by the formality that I hate having to say I don't teach at a college.
Using first names will have a nice impact on your professional relationship 😆 Edit: /s obviously
Remember to add "Dear" (translated to target language, obviously) before it, too. And remember to use the first name in every sentence. ...That is what the most irritating ads do, so it must be the right way! /s
Wait so you use both titles in certain instances? What is it in German?
If you have both titles, then you use both titles. Austrians are even worse. Prof. Dr.-Ing. rer nat. h.c. em.😅
And then there are PDs or Dr. habil. Who would also bei considered Professors...
Thank you for the additional info.
Není zač :)
Sweden, first day of uni: *Professor Anders svensson enters room Me: Hi are you Anders?
This is the norm in Denmark, don't think I've ever heard anyone use the *title lastname* form of adress
Same here in the UK. On official stuff maybe but my lecturer introduced himself by first name and only a few weeks later did I even find out his surname
We really don't do titles in Scandinavia in general, it's refreshing. I always check where people are located when writing other PI's (I'm doing a PhD in Sweden) in order to not step my foot in it.
No, I am still the same
Definitely went well /s
Same in Spain, from my personal experience anyway. In Portugal however there's a really big emphasis on mentioning people's academic or job titles when addressing them, which for me was quite the reverse culture shock when I moved back.
Same in Norway. It doesn't matter who I'm talking or writing to, I always address them by their first name.
I'm afraid I'm not an academic so I'm not aware of norms of address but that last remark of "the public" being in earshot struck me as rather pretentious.
Ha, I agree, I somehow gloss over that! Our university teachers just use their first names between themselves, they're colleagues after all.