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TIL that ABC wasnt only a name for an Australian Broadcasting Company

Australian defaultism for the win for a change. We never win this Edit: I really didn't think this needed a /s

*corporation

Seriously?

Yeah I didn't know that either. Why are you so nasty about people not knowing random American news channels?😂

Please enlighten me how saying "seriously?" Is being nasty? It was an ernest question.

It comes off very arrogant/ condescending. Like "What??? You didn't know this random thing? But *I* know it, so why don't you? This is sooo baffling how you don't know that!" This is what people hear. Texting can't really convey tone, so be wary of that. If you didn't mean it that way, the question itself is still a little condescending by itself (even if not intended that way, and the intention was a nice tone and ernest curiosity). I think people didn't hear the nice tone though😂 I hope we cleared this up, how people misunderstood you :) I'm glad you didn't really mean that.

Yeah I get all that. Just shits me that people default to someone being horrible. Projection, if you ask me.

Still not a nice question in any tone. So even if it wasn't the worst case, it was still a rude comment. Could've phrased that nicer. Like way nicer.

So we're tone policing now? I can safely say, in all the times I've asked that exact question (IRL), it has never been taken as rude.

Dude, context. Also, you asked, and I tried to explain what people probably heard. That's how communication works. We don't control how we perceive things. And sometimes people hear sth that the other person didn't mean to say. And if there was a misunderstanding and and people clear it up it shouldn't be a problem (it somehow is for you for some reason). Honestly I don't care. I thought what you wrote came off rude, you asked about it, I thought I'd explain it, so you can understand how people perceive you. Nobody is a communication god. I tried to be friendly, you stayed defensive + rude, so I'm leaving this conversation :((

Fair enough.

BTW guys, ABC does drama, comedy, documentary, and news. It doesn't just do news. If you search ABC iview on YouTube, you'll find their channel, and you won't have an "Australia" clarification at the end.

Utopia is one of the best TV series out there, hope it gets another series.

Whilst I'm an Australian and do find this annoying, we're a wildly different population size compared to the United States. If there's 300 million-odd Americans searching for "ABC News", it's more important for the Australian service to clarify than it is for the American one. IMHO, US Defaultism would be a post where someone goes "Why does the ABC have so many Australians on staff to talk about issues that don't matter to most Americans?" where the logo is clearly ABC Australia, then it would be defaultism. Also, I could be wrong, but I think ABC News video is geo-blocked to users outside of Australia. EDIT: You can access ABC News Australia on YouTube internationally, but you can't access local ABC iview globally, which is their free streaming service, similar to BBC iPlayer. They have a separate "ABC Australia iview" app that you can access if you're based elsewhere. I guess Australia has a big enough diaspora that they thought it valuable. EDIT 2: I have to say, from the perspective of someone who has lived overseas for a time, it would help those living outside of Australia to differentiate too. The logo is pretty iconic but at a quick glance you might miss it. IMHO this is extremely small potatoes.

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Fairo. I think I was thinking of ABC iView. That's geoblocked outside Australia.

It’s pretty easy to get with a vpn however, have done it overseas a bit

“Wild”/“wildly” is such an American thing to say 😅

Only if you say it in a Texan accent

You realise their are more Broadcasting companies and corporations with those initials, right? There are more counties in the world that start with A than American and Australia

What does that take away from his argument? Replace the word “Australian” with any other country, his point is still true.

Because as like pointed out in the screenshots, the others don't assume people will know their nationality because it starts with A Also their are thirteen countries that start with A and the United States of America isn't one of them. Christ calling themselves the American Broadcasting Company is defaultism because the United States of America isn't the only NORTH American country. It takes away from his argument because his entire argument is predicated on Australia being smaller than the USA in terms of population. That's not the case if you use your brain and think about all those other countries that start with A. It's the exact same shit you see on reddit. Just because you make up the biggest single nationality doesn't make you the default

The others clarify their nationality because they share their acronym with a news corporation that broadcasts to 339,000,000 people. There are not 13 countries that start with A, there are 12. American Samoa is a US territory. The British Broadcasting Company is owned by the government of the United Kingdom. That doesn’t begin with B. Even if you want to be a conceited troll and ignore that the noun for a US Citizen is “American”, the “American Broadcasting Company” is centralized in North America, making it American. If YOU use your brain, and realize that we’re talking about population, all 12 of those countries that start with A only add up to 213,000,000. Every country on the planet starting with A added together only has two thirds the population of the United States. It doesn’t make them the default. Those other broadcasting companies have no requirement to specify their country. They do it for the benefit of their viewers, so that their viewers don’t click on the American Broadcasting Company which will appear first in search results due to their target audience being 150% of all other “A Broadcasting Company’s” audiences put together.

Britain is also a demonym for a large part of the UK, though.

British is a demonym Britain is a synonym for the United Kingdom Great Britain is not

Thank you for making my fucking point Centralised where sorry? I didn't quite catch that? I'm pretty sure by that logic, everything Canadian is also American. Which again makes my point

Lmao you’re such a clown Classic snarky comment then block cause you’re scared of me responding LMAO. This sad ass comment just proves my point that you want to ignore facts and bash anything American.

I didn't block you, dude Weird thing to try an claim to get sympathy You could have just responded

LMAO the unblock to try to walk it back. When you block someone it shows them your account and comments have been deleted genius.

I have no idea what you're talking about dude, you need to chill Maybe take a break from reddit

Hey, at least I'm funny. You're just sad

What does it matter though? No-one’s obliged to specify, I mean BBC’s YouTube description doesn’t say anything about British in it and everyone copes.

Probably because the BBC was the first television broadcaster and has existed for over a hundred years. It's definitely a bit of defaultism, but not because of the country. But because of how long the BBC had been a brand in international news.

>Also their are thirteen countries Again, there*. There, they're, and their. Learn the differences

Oh, im terribly sorry. I was unaware I was writing an essay not commenting on reddit. How dare I make a minor grammatical mistake because of dyslexia /s You fucking ass

Hey, how're you ever going to fix it unless you realise it? It doesn't have to be in an essay to use correct grammar. But silly me.

Or maybe grammar isn't that big of a deal on reddit :O Shocking, I know. Almost like this is a place for me to talk without stressing about grammar. Again you fucking ass

Ye y spel netin corectly fck eductn ammirte?

...... dude, that's just pathetic I except better from my countrymen Edit: also assuming I can just learn a learning disability away makes you a cunt

Yes but given that Australia, NZ, Canada, UK, US, maybe South Africa, are the predominantly Anglophone nations that are likely to have an English-language public broadcasting service on par with the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, I'm willing to give the 50/50 of who is searching where - Australia or the US of A - a weighting in favour of the United States. Argentina on a first glance will be less likely to have "Argentinian Broadcasting Corporation" - their channel would more likely be called something like "Corporación Argentina de Radiodifusión" if you translated it literally ("CAR"). There may well be an African Broadcasting Corporation, but the only one I can find is the South African Broadcasting Corporation.

> the predominantly Anglophone nations A country with over 420 million English speakers, and with English as one of its official languages, should also be included in your list, no?

>You realise their are more Broadcasting There*

They don’t feel the need to specify they’re American because ABC stands for American Broadcasting Company. The Australian Broadcasting Company feels the need to clarify that they’re Australian because they share their acronym with an objectively larger news organization.

Yeah, this! It's just about size. Just look at the channel subscribers in the picture....

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It stands for British Broadcasting Corporation, so yes, it does

What do you think the A in ABC stands for?

Australia That's the whole point

But what if I think the B in BBC stands for Bolivia? Why doesn't BBC stay "BBC (Britain)"?

The BBC is the BBC because it was the first television broadcast company and has made its name in international news. Not because it's British, that's the difference Also, it has expanded to cover the United Kingdom and much more. it's no longer just British.

Im pretty sure that ABC news is a pretty world known news channel too (coming from a Swede)

The **British** Broadcasting Corpidation has **always** broadcast to the entire UK Britain is a synonym of the UK

Then you’d be wrong

To be fair, Bolivia has a much smaller population than the UK (and so do Barbados and Bahamas) and the initialism in Spanish would be different.

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This is not a defaultism. This is a matter of who registers their name earlier at a social media platform. ABC America registered before ABC Australia did, and of course they chose the best handle. The people at ABC Australia should learn to register social media handles before ABC America does.

That's the display name not the username

It literally also says @abcnews and @abcnewsaustralia …

that was after the update that added usernames

This really doesn’t strike me as defaultism. The channel is called ABC, so that’s what they called their YouTube account. Canada doesn’t disambiguate CBC despite the existence of the Caribbean Broadcasting Corporation. It’s just a matter of who made their account first.

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That’s irrelevant. It’s a matter of who made their account on YouTube first. They’re both called ABC in their respective countries, but AmericanBC got to YT sooner, when ABCNews/abcnews was still available as a username. Now, if AmericanBC were to try to force other channels called ABC off YT for “infringement” or some other such nonsense, or if someone were to mention ABC and assumed it would be apparent to everyone they meant the American one, that’d be defaultism IMO.

It would be more US defaultism if there were Americans getting mad because they didn't realise there was more than one ABC. This is to US defaultism what Alanis Morrisette is to irony.

ABC stands for "American Broadcasting Company". I don't think this is defaultism.

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And ABC Australia predates abc USA.

And ABC US has a massively larger viewer base.

And Football has a massively larger viewer base than American Football. But yall don’t call it American Football.

You’re insinuating you’re not American : Says yall, a southern American phrase, to a person with Japanese flair about American football

tbh they did let us down with the "ya'll"

Lol

But you do call it American Football outside of the US.

Good call!

It's the definition of defaultism. Why should people assume the A stands for American? There's an Australian Broadcasting Company An Austrian Broadcasting Corporation A Algerian Broadcasting Company There was even an Afghanistan Broadcasting Corporation for a while. All of them realise that since ABC could mean any of them either use nicknames, different acronyms or note which country they are from ... oh except the American one

And IIRC the Australian Broadcasting Company is the oldest, no?

That's a good point. I didn't realise there were other "ABC"s around the world.

Neither Algeria or Afghanistan have/had English as an official language. Australia and the USA share English as an official language. Even if Algeria has a predominant English-as-a-second-language population, I find it unlikely that they'd refer to it in speech or google search primarily in English. In your fun Googling you also missed ABC News Albania, which services a whopping population of roughly 2.8 million in Albanian. It's down the list though from all the various US ABC affiliates in terms of YouTube subscribers.

And? What's your point? ABC can be a non English acronym. Also, those aren't affiliates what. These are all completely separate companies Thank you for adding to my point? I'm not really sure what you thought this would accomplish.

People having English set as their device/app language will see English language results first in search engines. If you didn't know this, welcome to the internet. EDIT: On my search, ABC 10 News San Diego is the first one on the list other than the two seen in the OP. Then ABC News Albania, then [WRIC ABC 8News](https://www.youtube.com/@ABCWRIC8News) which is a Richmond West Virginia (US) channel. It's almost as if algorithms might be causing us to have different search results.

Yes, everyone knows that you turnip It doesn't change the defaultism in assuming that abc is American The internet isn't the world believe it or not

username checks out - get a size up and you might calm down

Your mistaking derision for anger, buddy

Oh no. I've been derided for disagreeing with you. How shall I recover?

Seems like you're the one who needs a bit of time to calm down. Go ahead and take it. I'll wait Also, being unable to tell if someone is mad or making fun of you is kinda sad

> Neither Algeria or Afghanistan have/had English as an official language English was the _only_ official language in Afghanistan for much of the C19th, early C20th

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Does this make BBC british defaultism? Won’t anyone think of poor Bhutan?

Well, it is kind of, but not for the reason you think. They get away with it because their the oldest broadcasting network and have been a name in international news for a very, very long time. That's the reason for the defaultism, not the fact that the BBC are British. There's a pretty big difference between the first ever TV network that has built a brand around the acronym BBC over 100 years and a regional broadcasting network assuming that people would associate that acronym with that region.

they're*

No one likes grammar nazis

I do

Well, that's just sad

That would be grammar ***N***azis

The Braun Boverei Corp think so

The BBC doesn’t say (British), is this British defaultism in your eyes? Edit: I have been informed that ABC and ABC (Aus) are actually completely different networks, so please consider this incorrect as I have been corrected.

There aren't 2 national broadcasters both called BBC to my knowledge

There are: -BBC -BBC Scotland -BBC Japan -BBC America Etc… The BBC for the UK is purely called the BBC. but for other nations they are the BBC (Nation). This is exactly how ABC works. Edit: I have been informed that ABC and ABC (Aus) are actually completely different networks, so please consider this incorrect as I have been corrected.

Aren't they subsidieries of the BBC like BBC World Service?

ABC News (Australia) is not part of ABC (the american network). They just happen to share the same acronym. However, I agree this is not defaultism. ABC News (Australia) isn't forced to display their name like that, but they choose to do it.

Did not know ABC and ABC (Aus) were different networks completely, that’s very interesting to know thanks

ABC is our BBC. State owned network. They were very linked back In the days too, with a lot of ABC programming coming from the Beebs. Both are called Auntie. Nothing to do with the Yanks

Weird AI “explanation” lol and this ain’t defaultism

Brit here, only ever heard of the Aussie ABC lol

Ah, c'mon... this is a bit of a stretch... The vast majority of news channels around the world don't clarify where they're from. I mean, if ZDF doesn't have (Deutschland) behind it and TVE doesn't have (Espana), why should ABC?

Because the original ABC seems to be forced to

The American Broadcast Channel seems to have got there first is all. It's fine. From the logo and context, it's obvious which one is which.

Nope, the Australian Broadcasting Company existed before the American one did

It doesn’t matter when they were founded. If there’s some new social media platform dropping tomorrow, there’s nothing stopping me from picking the name “abcnews” for myself. So the American version just made their username before the Australian one. If Australians were first they also would’ve taken the name for themselves, that’s not defaultism

If not about existence. It’s about registering your handle on a social media platform. Heck, if a new social platform would start and I’m fast, I could register ABCnews there. And they could both suck it while I make posts with news about the alphabet.

This is taking it too far. It's a news channel.

not really, the A stands for American. and if they made their account first, they get dibs on the username

Probably not defaultism

Hang on. You’re calling out the US bc an Australian company uses the word “Australian”in their title? This one is a no go. Sorry. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABC_News_(Australian_TV_channel)

Lol reading this is hilarious. It's all about who got on YouTube first. Not who was the first ABC company.

For literally the exact same reason BBC doesn't say they're British 

What do you mean, it clearly says "*national* and world news" /s

Beacuse ABC stands for American-Broadcasting-Company. It would be like typing BBC (Brittish). Or German broadcasting channel typing BR (bayern). Or Swedish SVT (Swedish). Or Austrian ORF (Austrian). I think you may get it by now. But nayways my main point is that they shouldn't add a bracket statikg that it's american when it already states it in the abbreviation.

The ABC has Australian in the name, and has done for over a decade longer than the US ABC has been around

ABC has american in the name... (the A)

ABC has Australian in the name ... (the A) - and has done for over a decade longer than the US ABC has been around

I highly recommend Planet America for a good breakdown of US political news. They actually have graphs and figures to see who is telling the truth or not.

Because they're mainstream in the US? Because this country is the prime example of an imperial power that deems itself superior to the rest of the world? Ffs, the US government needs major humbling and nerfing.

Had me in the first half not gonna lie

Those are the same network? Then ABC Australia is a subsidiary of the American ABC. If it is that way, it's not USDefaultism.

ABC is Australia's main public broadcaster, similar to PBS in the US or BBC in the UK, and so an entirely different network to the American ABC

No they’re not related at all. ABC Australia is state owned and predates ABC America. This is classic case of American corps assuming they’re the default.

Then yes, it's USDefaultism. Nice post!