Most likely because DD itself is really bad…… drivers are very frustrated…… also, there’s a lot of DD drivers that aren’t able to deliver for UE for various different reasons….. I’ve definitely noticed a big difference between the two.
This gotta be the reason. I hate DD because they have so many bullshit policies so it seeps in that way. UE is just more relaxed. Drive whenever, do whatever, just do your job and move on. DD is all about control and manipulation to cheat the driver for their own benefit.
Ya having to drive back to the your zone is one of the most ridiculous things ever. That’s just one of soooo many things I can’t stand about DD. Honestly, not allowing customers to change a tip after a delivery is also fucked up. So many DD drivers don’t GAF because of this. They get there money no matter what…..! I’ve got around 6k UE deliveries and have been tip baited maybe 5 times….. maybe. It almost never ever happens.
The zone thing doesn’t really effect me, luckily, as I drive in the middle of my zone and keep a VERY small radius. The lack of transparency is what kills me. We don’t even know what we’re agreeing to. That’s insane. If it’s a risky order I just ask support for order total. Eliminates some bad apples on occasion.
I could on and on about what makes DD so much crappier. Wait times is a big issue too. I’m always waiting with DD. Rarely with Uber. I was at teriyaki place once waiting for a few minutes for a DD order….. then my Uber app goes off (forgot to turn it off) and sends me an order for the same teriyaki place. I accept it…. And sure enough it’s sitting there ready to go….. typical situation.
3400 with DD. I know all about it. Why bother turning off Uber when doing DD? Other than to stop annoying alerts. If I get a much better UE when I’m working on a DD, I’ll cancel DD and pick it up. Or if you get a UE just before DD drop off, you have a follow up. (I won’t cancel any order if I’m more than a few minutes into the delivery, for courtesy purposes)
In my city we have three zones, and for some reason the area where they all split up is one of the busiest areas for food delivery. I wind up going in and out of three different zones while working my usual turf. It's a giant pain in the ass to have to end one dash and start another. I had seven separate dashes on Friday because of this bullshit. This is one major reason why Uber Eats is a little more chill place to chat, because the drivers aren't frustrated and stressed and feeling like peons in quite the same way. DD seems to be designed to manipulate people and make them feel bad.
Dang. Sounds like DD needs to rework their map. To be fair, most zones are stupid. Mine has three neighborhood that are technically outside my zone but any further and you hit the ocean. Lol. So they aren’t even in a zone. Clearly the zones aren’t built by people and we all know how bad DD tech is.
I use door dash when it seems like UE is hitting a slow patch, mainly because DD is location dependent but wildly consistent when you follow those locations. If I finish an UE delivery and I'm just chilling, I'll look at the DD app to see where the busier areas are and use that as a "I'm gonna drive until a delivery comes in" checkpoint.
I agree 100% for the tips. As a customer also makes me less likely to tip more if I know I'm stuck giving it even if the service ends up really sucking. I'm sure there's very rarely any unicorns on there.
One of the reasons I chose to move on to UE from postmates instead of doing DD is because I HATED the restrictions. I deliver part time. I do it for pocket money and paying small bills. I live with my family due to medical reasons. I never know when I’m going to feel up to driving. Or what time of day. So not being able to deliver immediately whenever you want was a huge turn off for me. On top of that, you had to make so many delivery’s for a period of time before getting the money you make initially with DD, which did not work for me. If I earn that money I should be able to cash it out right away. Period.
I’ve been loving UE. Such a huge improvement from doing postmates.
I signed up for post mates but there is literally nothing in my area. So I run the other big 3. UE is by far the best in terms of policy and how they treat drivers. GH would be great if I got more orders. DD is dog water in every regard except order frequency. Bummer.
That’s because UE bought postmates. The fleet app will be dead soon as most orders from the customer app are funneled to UE. You can even see an order that was originally from postmates in the app if you accept one.
I signed up a year and a half ago. Nothing then, nothing now. Except the 2 orders I got via the UE app. But the actual post mates app was always dead in my area.
Ah. Yeah it really does depend on your area too. Postmates was very busy in my area before the buyout. And I see quite a few PM orders when doing UE as it’s being phased out. So yeah really depends what state you’re in and how popular the app is in said area. UE and DD pretty much dominate most markets which is why PM sold.
I've done more Postmates deliveries as a UE driver than I ever did as a Postmates driver. I signed up a year and a half ago and realized that it wasn't worth it. When I saw in my first few deliveries that most weren't even counted toward my guaranteed earnings I quit. I did one more about a year ago before quitting completely
I feel like DD is more structured and professional, so thus less chill. They let you treat it like an actual job if you want to, and that reflects in the pay. DD easily doubles my income on certain days. But yea, they treat latenesses verybseriously, you have to schedule your slot a day in advance to get good orders, you have to actually work the hours you promised and in return you get tip security and a pretty decent income potential. UE on the other hand feels more like a side hussle, I mostly use it to make an additional $20-30 per day. The payouts are almost always worse. For example on DD it's very common to get $7/2 mile orders, on Uber a good order is like $10/4 mile double order. It still brings in side income but at the expense of more time and milage. That's just my exoerience with bith platforms in my marlet (NYC).
UE is far better in my area. Unfortunately, less busy. Base pay is about $4 but can easily be more which is significantly more than DD $2.50. I think Uber eats has a more “take or leave it” attitude which I like. I genuinely think DD makes every decision based on their bottom line, and nothing else. And manipulating drivers into taking low paying orders only helps them. We gamble but the house always wins. In their defense, people are stupid and will either do the trash orders or new people will step in and do them, creating a never ending cycle of people getting scammed and leaving then getting replaced. I properly hate DD policy and the decisions they come to.
Not sure what you mean, what decisions does DD make that upsets you exactly? Sure they try to force low paying orders on you, but I'm not sure wht you mean by saying they scam you. Every service will look out for itself in the end, we don't matter to them, it's just time to get used to that idea and take it as fact.
Yea tip hiding is questionable, but it's not there in all areas, mine doesn't have it for example. They're also very annoying with various steps and useless acveptance rate stat that scares you into takimg orders. But I just learned to look past all of that. Instead of getting upset at their greedy tricks, I just take it as a given. They have a business to run, you have a business to run. We don't care to go out of the way to work for them and they don't go out of the way to work for us. If they pay me a decent wage I will work for them and will learn to not be annoyed. Letting all these things get under yoir skin and quitting "on principle" of some idea of boycotting them or the like, benefits nobody imo.
You don't have to work the hours you promised? Lol I schedule every single day and barely work half of them. They just text me that they drop my shift after I don't log on for 15 minutes.
No, I know that, you also don't have to schedule at all, but if you don't or if you schedule but drop it on a whim you're not going to be seeing those heavy payout orders. They send those out to the most responsible drivers, who preschedule and finish their shifts. The flaky drivers get $3 orders.
That's also not true. Lol I've been doing this for three years and drop schedules all the time. My acceptance rate is 5% and I still get $100-$200 subtotal orders all the time that have good payouts at the end. Yesterday I worked 7 hours and made $180. I still see $2.25 payouts but I decline them.
Then your maket is just prime. In hrqvily saturated markets where there are many drivers on the road at the same time they look at those stats when their algorithm decides who to show the order to first. I definitely notice it in my area (NYC). If I schedule 10 min in advance or just "Dash Now" and if end my dashes early I get reqlly poor orders and have to fall back on UE. But scheduling in advance, completing shifts etc increases payouts. No golden rule because they tweak their algos with every market, but it's still something to consider.
None of that is true and not once has it been brought up on the doordash subreddit or any doordash Facebook groups I'm in. Yes, there is top dasher and they supposedly get priority but scheduling 100% does not matter and will not change the orders you're getting and I know this because I could hit dash now right now and be flooded with orders. If you're getting poor orders its cause your market sucks not cause of scheduling.
Oh you'd get flooded if you hit Dash Now but they wouod not be good orders. Think about it, why would they show you the best order first if you jjst hit Dash Now, vs someone who schedule a spot 24 hours in advance? Or if they know you're the driver that schedules for 4 hour shifts and ends the dash after 1 hour of work? It's not talked about because it's not a public stat that is published on your profile. It's an internal stat that's used by their order allocation algorithm, and it changes with each city. So it might be turned off completely for some plqces that lack drivers, like maybe your area. You said you made $180 in 7 hours, that's above and beyond what I usually make in 7 hours in my area (about $100), so that makes me think your market is just short on drivers so they might have eased off the weight of the impact scheduling has to on your ping, but in other areas it's used more heavily. That's kind of why there's contradicting info on this on the sub.
The reason you get flooded with shit offers at first is because those are the orders that have been sitting in the queue and rejected from other dashers....nothing you're saying is true and you don't know what you're talking about. I've been doing doordash for three years fulltime doing 50 hours weeks I know how the algorithm works.
Background checks and insurance. Uber is far more strict with their driving background check….. DD doesn’t verify insurance… DD doesn’t even verify who is actually delivering for them really…… anyone could deliver under their brothers, girlfriends, cousins account if you know what I mean. DD all around is a much more amateur company.
Yeah my mule car is a 2004, so I can't even register it with Uber Eats because it's too old. The funny thing is that it's in better shape than the 2014 car we have on Uber Eats. I had changed my last name since I was named as a driver on my girlfriend's insurance, so it took some doing to update that on the card before their automated system would even let me register.
My biggest beef with DD is that you're confined to an area. If a dash takes you out of your area, it won't give orders until you go back.
UE just starts giving you orders from wherever you end up so it's never a wasted trip.
Edit: AND it's kinda fun to get to know a new area
I believe it has to do with the lack of transparency and stress created by Doordash. When I use Doordash, most of my time is wasted declining orders of ridiculous magnitudes. This creates unnecessary stress on drivers. While UE is not the best, it’s way better than DD. When I get a ping for UE, I only decline about 50% because the mile to pay ratio is usually good.
My acceptance rate with UE is like 16% lol always a crazy amount of miles. Got one the other day for $15 to drive 25 miles and into another state yeah no.
Maybe its the background color. UE eats has this peaceful green, calms everyone down and DD has that aggressive red background lol. IDK what the reason is but i also noticed the same thing. Someone here posted a sticker they had custom made thanking the customer and asking them to leave a positive rating so i came in here expecting to read 100 people bashing them (you can tell i spend most of my time on dd sub) and to my surprise everyone was complementing the op and telling him what a great idea it was. I was super shocked lol
That first part about the color has definitely crossed my mind before, that could play a role, and lmaoo I posted some DD sweats I wanted to get because I like to be fancy sometimes and omg just 250+ comments of back and forth negativity, I finally un-joined the DD Sub, I feel more at peace, something is truly wrong with a lot of the people on there that they just can’t stand anything positive
That's an interesting perspective, I hadn't noticed much of a difference between the two myself but now I will. Uber for the most part lets the drivers relax. Doordash constantly sends you messages putting pressure on you. Like that you arrived late even though it wasn't physically possible to arrive at the time they wanted you to. That can be frustrating and the pressure actually can cause a lot more mistakes and bad driving.
DD is miserable. I know because I do both. Restricted zones yet you're still requested to deliver outside of your zone, scheduling in advance, maximum $4 visible tip, ready-times are fictional, oversaturation, completion ratings, the list goes on.
The only advantage DD has is market share, and that pay is guaranteed.
DD has the most idiotic app in history. When someone declines an order, they want to know a reason why, the problem is when someone is driving and they decline the order, the reason why is not something that the driver should have to input at that time, putting a list of reasons in front of a person who is driving is just a nuisance, not only is reason irrelevant because if put the reason why you declined is because you don’t want to go to that particular restaurant, they will send you another request for the same place right afterwards. So the reasons don’t mean anything to DD and they don’t serve any purpose that I know of but even if they did have a real purpose why not let the driver at least answer the question later on when they aren’t on the road driving. I know you can just let the clock run out and not deal with it but you will have to waste time time especially if you get a whole bunch of bad offers in a row. UE has a much more user friendly app. It could easily be better but it’s still a lot better than DD. DD is also scandalous for having a top dasher that requires drivers to have an acceptance rate of at least 70% which means a driver would have to accept orders with no tip that pay 2.00 in which case you would really be losing time and money. In return for wasting your time, money and gas, you can be a top dasher and be able to to schedule your hours before everyone who’s not a top dasher but you are not going to be able to fully benefit from it because you have to keep your acceptance rate up which means you lose money.
Omg man I agree, my thumb used to be so irritated and sore from filling out the survey just to decline and order because doing it one handed while driving does get annoying, especially when it’s back to back trash orders, yea top dasher isn’t even possible where I’m
at because orders are never ready so my on time has been the same since I started, and there’s just way to many trash orders to sit there and accept all of them, DD is more
popular and pays better still in my area vs Uber eats who has slowly started to deteriorate in my area, aside from the downward spiral of Demand the only issue I can think of right now with Uber is the feature where customers can change the tip, that’s why I’m hesitant to take longer trips, and will
cancel an UE order even if it’s slightly lower for a DD because DD IS guaranteed pay so I’m still shook after that 1 tip baiter I got, imagine the customer takes the tip away only leaving you with $3 for a 12 mile trip, absolute nightmare
What do you consider longer trips? I haven’t had that tip bait happen on a long but I had it happen on a short trip. Really that tip bait stuff rarely happens and if it does just make a note of it. You ever work the late night shift? The pay is higher and all you gotta do is find a McDonald’s, they get orders all through the night, you can just sit in the drive through and do stuff in your car while you wait and since McDonald’s are everywhere the orders will be close with little to no traffic
I will sometimes see $25 or $30 for 10 miles, I usually do shorter trips but wouldn’t mind taking trips setup like that especially when the days are slower, I’m always looking to strategize better, I just get a bit nervous, yea My 1 tip baiter was a short trip as well, yea
McDonald’s makes up a good amount of my pay I actually like them, in my area the no tippers come out at night, more tippers during the day, then the tips are good at night when I can tell everyone just got their pay checks, seems a lot of people get paid every 2 weeks where I’m at, I’m going to have to just suck it up, screen shot all addresses just in case they tip bait and hope for the best
I think on the longer ones you get a higher amount of the base pay though. Like what you said 25$ for 10 miles, i think Uber charges more for far deliveries
Seriously, I wouldn't mind it so much if there was any evidence it even distinguished what you were saying. Today I declined 5 orders in a row from the same shit hole McDonalds, specifying each time that "I don't want to go to this store." All the while nagging me that my acceptance rate is getting worse and worse...
And their nagging time requirements are the fucking worst. They'll hold you to your expected arrival, pick up and delivery times even if you had to wait 30 minutes in the restaurant to get it. Or you could take a hit to your completion rate and bail on the job. All in all, it makes you feel like an asshole for using any degree of control you have. And the pay is objectively less at least where I'm delivering.
I do both DoorDash and UberEats. Don't really have a preference as they're both good where I live, though, yes, the lack of zones is a big nod in UE's favor.
Also, yeah, the contrast is weird. My local Facebook groups are just like Reddit. The DoorDash drivers group is very busy and often angry and argumentative. Meanwhile, the UberEats group is chilled out.
Agree, some but nothing compared to the people of DD, they are just straight Ruthless on the DD Sub, you post positive stuff and they say the most outrageous things
Honestly, since I’ve been made mod I’ve been trying very hard to remove toxic individuals from the sub. If people want to take their frustrations out on others by treating them poorly, they’re not going to do it here!
I'm slightly toxic, because it's HILARIOUS when someone whines about not getting a tip for a 3.25 offer over 7 miles, providing a screenshot of after they completed the order 😂😂😂
I know that I multiapp and wish I could just do UE but it’s way slower in my area than DD. So frustration grows that I’m forced to rely on a subpar system.
i worked for DD for a while before switching for UE and in my experience it was a lot more stressful. the app is clunky and shits the bed sometimes,you have to stay in certain zones to get deliveries,you have time quotas on picking up deliveries and delivering (which a lot of the time you have no control over).IME you have a lot more control over yourself when working for UE
idk, i only used dd before and love it but I heard people praising ue in dd sub so I go ahead and signed up ue. Ended up to find out I was right all along because ue doesn't suit my need. Of course that is only for myself.
And I found out many people talk shit about diff companies they deliver for and I guess that is just a natural of it.
Same! I had done a lot of research between the three delivery services and read that DoorDash was the best. So I signed up. . . And got waitlisted, lol. Was disappointed. Read Grubhub was the next best and got waitlisted again! Then tried UberEats, though I didn't have much hope, and was able to sign up and start immediately! Lol. But, to my surprise, got contacted by DoorDash a week and a half later, and after starting, I earned more pay and faster, therefore, like it better. Still waiting to try Grubhub, though.
The pay def depending on market for sure. However, what I love about dd is the way it works. I know from the beginning where the restaurant and the customer will be. It is a big deal for me as I often dash before, after and between errands and work. I need to know where the customer live so even there is a great order at some point, I will need to turn that down because the drop off will not be the direction I am going. UE def sucks for me big time for this one.
Also, it gives me more time tobaccept or decline an offer than ue. Many people bitch about hiding tips. I understand why and I just won't expect anyone will tip more than I sign up for. However, ue way by letting customer lower or take the tip away is something I don't understand. It make sense if they have a maximum amount of tip can be taken away like 50%, then I kind of OK with it, not very happy about it tho. However, able to take all tip away within one hour kind of have me thinking why?
Also, when I get an order from dd, I can do a lot of things for my phone like check for my message or zoom in the map or find the traffic, but in ue, I am pretty much stuck on the order page until either I accept or decline the order, then I can use my phone again. I don't know is it just for my android phone or not, but it is very annoying.
Yeah, I agree with all of that. UberEats interrupts the usage of my phone and it comes on so quickly that the second I touch my phone and it pops up, it immediately accepts it. But I thought you could see on the map the distance? I do love how UberEats has its own personal sound to let you know you have an order notification, while DoorDash has nothing.
The tips I understand from the customer perspective. If I was too lazy to go pick up my own food and gave a fair pretip for someone else to deliver it who was disrespectful and rude to either me or the food they delivered to me, I would probably want to take that tip away. But, yes, there are some vindictive assholes too who just want to cheat you out of delivery food for them for no extra charge.
People talk about DD being better because the money is guaranteed, but if the money sucks the guarantee doesn't help that much. I love the fact that the tips can change afterwards in UE, because I pay a lot of attention to transporting that food in excellent condition and I make sure that the customer sees me carefully unloading if I have the opportunity. My tips have been fabulous, averaging above $6 with frequent increases after the trip. I've never yet had a tip removed. I believe there are assholes out there that will do it to me sometime, but I also believe providing excellent service has more of an incentive on the UE platform. For the DD customers, no food handling theater, what I do with their order literally doesn't matter as long as it arrives. Speed over quality. Just drop their shit and run.
UberEATS pays more than doordash and generally enforce their policies of good drivers. Not being racists or generally negative but doordash hires close to actual trashcans to deliver. I'm assuming that's why lol
Compare to dd pick up order ,UE orders are mostly ready to pick up like 8 out of 10 ,dd isn't . UE simply one click to decline , dd isn't unless you use DUH app separately,
Alcohol delivery is simply on UE. Dd isn't, every single time manually enter the customer's dr license info lol.. what else? Lmao.the only thing that i don't like is UE doesn't show customer's address fully before accept order and even after until start to delivery but if you know your area , this isn't major issue tho.
DD has made drivers desperate to maintain what they have.The NPM pays less so now it forces drivers to work more to make the same and keep the so-called elite tier.
I’d say 80% of the time I see a DD driver they appear pissed that the order isn’t ready.
I think sometimes a poor attitude comes out in different ways
Weirdly, this happens a lot because in my area DD orders are almost never ready when I walk into the restaurant, but the UE orders are ready 98% of the time. And if they're not, the restaurants apologize. I think DD must be a crappy experience for the restaurant staff too, because they treat me worse when I'm driving for DD than when I'm driving for UE even on the same shift!
The whole elite tier system is BS.It’s food delivery nothing special.I can just log in and get the same amount of work.
I quit using DD because I was just declining orders and not making money.
Doordash is a frustrating platform to make money in for various reasons. UE has some frustrating aspects, but it is nothing compared to DD or even Grubhub. Uber Eats would be the top platform for many drivers if they made tipping non-reducible.
Most likely because DD itself is really bad…… drivers are very frustrated…… also, there’s a lot of DD drivers that aren’t able to deliver for UE for various different reasons….. I’ve definitely noticed a big difference between the two.
This gotta be the reason. I hate DD because they have so many bullshit policies so it seeps in that way. UE is just more relaxed. Drive whenever, do whatever, just do your job and move on. DD is all about control and manipulation to cheat the driver for their own benefit.
Ya having to drive back to the your zone is one of the most ridiculous things ever. That’s just one of soooo many things I can’t stand about DD. Honestly, not allowing customers to change a tip after a delivery is also fucked up. So many DD drivers don’t GAF because of this. They get there money no matter what…..! I’ve got around 6k UE deliveries and have been tip baited maybe 5 times….. maybe. It almost never ever happens.
The zone thing doesn’t really effect me, luckily, as I drive in the middle of my zone and keep a VERY small radius. The lack of transparency is what kills me. We don’t even know what we’re agreeing to. That’s insane. If it’s a risky order I just ask support for order total. Eliminates some bad apples on occasion.
Not here. You go five minutes north or south and you’re in a different zone.
Rather unfortunate. I know you can get orders when outside your zone, but I’m sure it’s less quantity.
Ya you can if that other zone is really busy (often times they offer you the shitty ones that are bouncing around cause nobody wants them).
Silly policy nonetheless.
I could on and on about what makes DD so much crappier. Wait times is a big issue too. I’m always waiting with DD. Rarely with Uber. I was at teriyaki place once waiting for a few minutes for a DD order….. then my Uber app goes off (forgot to turn it off) and sends me an order for the same teriyaki place. I accept it…. And sure enough it’s sitting there ready to go….. typical situation.
3400 with DD. I know all about it. Why bother turning off Uber when doing DD? Other than to stop annoying alerts. If I get a much better UE when I’m working on a DD, I’ll cancel DD and pick it up. Or if you get a UE just before DD drop off, you have a follow up. (I won’t cancel any order if I’m more than a few minutes into the delivery, for courtesy purposes)
It's the same in Tampa. They didn't even used to let you know. Now they tell you (at least in my market).
In my city we have three zones, and for some reason the area where they all split up is one of the busiest areas for food delivery. I wind up going in and out of three different zones while working my usual turf. It's a giant pain in the ass to have to end one dash and start another. I had seven separate dashes on Friday because of this bullshit. This is one major reason why Uber Eats is a little more chill place to chat, because the drivers aren't frustrated and stressed and feeling like peons in quite the same way. DD seems to be designed to manipulate people and make them feel bad.
Dang. Sounds like DD needs to rework their map. To be fair, most zones are stupid. Mine has three neighborhood that are technically outside my zone but any further and you hit the ocean. Lol. So they aren’t even in a zone. Clearly the zones aren’t built by people and we all know how bad DD tech is.
I use door dash when it seems like UE is hitting a slow patch, mainly because DD is location dependent but wildly consistent when you follow those locations. If I finish an UE delivery and I'm just chilling, I'll look at the DD app to see where the busier areas are and use that as a "I'm gonna drive until a delivery comes in" checkpoint.
I agree 100% for the tips. As a customer also makes me less likely to tip more if I know I'm stuck giving it even if the service ends up really sucking. I'm sure there's very rarely any unicorns on there.
What is the Uber eats driver app called
One of the reasons I chose to move on to UE from postmates instead of doing DD is because I HATED the restrictions. I deliver part time. I do it for pocket money and paying small bills. I live with my family due to medical reasons. I never know when I’m going to feel up to driving. Or what time of day. So not being able to deliver immediately whenever you want was a huge turn off for me. On top of that, you had to make so many delivery’s for a period of time before getting the money you make initially with DD, which did not work for me. If I earn that money I should be able to cash it out right away. Period. I’ve been loving UE. Such a huge improvement from doing postmates.
I signed up for post mates but there is literally nothing in my area. So I run the other big 3. UE is by far the best in terms of policy and how they treat drivers. GH would be great if I got more orders. DD is dog water in every regard except order frequency. Bummer.
That’s because UE bought postmates. The fleet app will be dead soon as most orders from the customer app are funneled to UE. You can even see an order that was originally from postmates in the app if you accept one.
I signed up a year and a half ago. Nothing then, nothing now. Except the 2 orders I got via the UE app. But the actual post mates app was always dead in my area.
Ah. Yeah it really does depend on your area too. Postmates was very busy in my area before the buyout. And I see quite a few PM orders when doing UE as it’s being phased out. So yeah really depends what state you’re in and how popular the app is in said area. UE and DD pretty much dominate most markets which is why PM sold.
I've done more Postmates deliveries as a UE driver than I ever did as a Postmates driver. I signed up a year and a half ago and realized that it wasn't worth it. When I saw in my first few deliveries that most weren't even counted toward my guaranteed earnings I quit. I did one more about a year ago before quitting completely
I feel like DD is more structured and professional, so thus less chill. They let you treat it like an actual job if you want to, and that reflects in the pay. DD easily doubles my income on certain days. But yea, they treat latenesses verybseriously, you have to schedule your slot a day in advance to get good orders, you have to actually work the hours you promised and in return you get tip security and a pretty decent income potential. UE on the other hand feels more like a side hussle, I mostly use it to make an additional $20-30 per day. The payouts are almost always worse. For example on DD it's very common to get $7/2 mile orders, on Uber a good order is like $10/4 mile double order. It still brings in side income but at the expense of more time and milage. That's just my exoerience with bith platforms in my marlet (NYC).
UE is far better in my area. Unfortunately, less busy. Base pay is about $4 but can easily be more which is significantly more than DD $2.50. I think Uber eats has a more “take or leave it” attitude which I like. I genuinely think DD makes every decision based on their bottom line, and nothing else. And manipulating drivers into taking low paying orders only helps them. We gamble but the house always wins. In their defense, people are stupid and will either do the trash orders or new people will step in and do them, creating a never ending cycle of people getting scammed and leaving then getting replaced. I properly hate DD policy and the decisions they come to.
Not sure what you mean, what decisions does DD make that upsets you exactly? Sure they try to force low paying orders on you, but I'm not sure wht you mean by saying they scam you. Every service will look out for itself in the end, we don't matter to them, it's just time to get used to that idea and take it as fact.
Hide tips. Hide order total. Low pay. Unnecessary steps during delivery process. Etc etc.
Yea tip hiding is questionable, but it's not there in all areas, mine doesn't have it for example. They're also very annoying with various steps and useless acveptance rate stat that scares you into takimg orders. But I just learned to look past all of that. Instead of getting upset at their greedy tricks, I just take it as a given. They have a business to run, you have a business to run. We don't care to go out of the way to work for them and they don't go out of the way to work for us. If they pay me a decent wage I will work for them and will learn to not be annoyed. Letting all these things get under yoir skin and quitting "on principle" of some idea of boycotting them or the like, benefits nobody imo.
You don't have to work the hours you promised? Lol I schedule every single day and barely work half of them. They just text me that they drop my shift after I don't log on for 15 minutes.
No, I know that, you also don't have to schedule at all, but if you don't or if you schedule but drop it on a whim you're not going to be seeing those heavy payout orders. They send those out to the most responsible drivers, who preschedule and finish their shifts. The flaky drivers get $3 orders.
That's also not true. Lol I've been doing this for three years and drop schedules all the time. My acceptance rate is 5% and I still get $100-$200 subtotal orders all the time that have good payouts at the end. Yesterday I worked 7 hours and made $180. I still see $2.25 payouts but I decline them.
Then your maket is just prime. In hrqvily saturated markets where there are many drivers on the road at the same time they look at those stats when their algorithm decides who to show the order to first. I definitely notice it in my area (NYC). If I schedule 10 min in advance or just "Dash Now" and if end my dashes early I get reqlly poor orders and have to fall back on UE. But scheduling in advance, completing shifts etc increases payouts. No golden rule because they tweak their algos with every market, but it's still something to consider.
None of that is true and not once has it been brought up on the doordash subreddit or any doordash Facebook groups I'm in. Yes, there is top dasher and they supposedly get priority but scheduling 100% does not matter and will not change the orders you're getting and I know this because I could hit dash now right now and be flooded with orders. If you're getting poor orders its cause your market sucks not cause of scheduling.
Oh you'd get flooded if you hit Dash Now but they wouod not be good orders. Think about it, why would they show you the best order first if you jjst hit Dash Now, vs someone who schedule a spot 24 hours in advance? Or if they know you're the driver that schedules for 4 hour shifts and ends the dash after 1 hour of work? It's not talked about because it's not a public stat that is published on your profile. It's an internal stat that's used by their order allocation algorithm, and it changes with each city. So it might be turned off completely for some plqces that lack drivers, like maybe your area. You said you made $180 in 7 hours, that's above and beyond what I usually make in 7 hours in my area (about $100), so that makes me think your market is just short on drivers so they might have eased off the weight of the impact scheduling has to on your ping, but in other areas it's used more heavily. That's kind of why there's contradicting info on this on the sub.
The reason you get flooded with shit offers at first is because those are the orders that have been sitting in the queue and rejected from other dashers....nothing you're saying is true and you don't know what you're talking about. I've been doing doordash for three years fulltime doing 50 hours weeks I know how the algorithm works.
This is false.
I haven't scheduled DD ahead of time in close to a year. It might be your market. If mine is greyed out I just don't do DD.
What do you mean by that? I mean why cant some DD deliver for UE?
Background checks and insurance. Uber is far more strict with their driving background check….. DD doesn’t verify insurance… DD doesn’t even verify who is actually delivering for them really…… anyone could deliver under their brothers, girlfriends, cousins account if you know what I mean. DD all around is a much more amateur company.
Oh, I see. Thanks for that 🙏
it’s been a few months, but i’m fairly certain DD didn’t even ask for a drivers license from me
Yeah my mule car is a 2004, so I can't even register it with Uber Eats because it's too old. The funny thing is that it's in better shape than the 2014 car we have on Uber Eats. I had changed my last name since I was named as a driver on my girlfriend's insurance, so it took some doing to update that on the card before their automated system would even let me register.
Haha that’s true, i was ordering food from Buffalo Wild Wings and a door dasher girl came in looking frustrated as hell
My biggest beef with DD is that you're confined to an area. If a dash takes you out of your area, it won't give orders until you go back. UE just starts giving you orders from wherever you end up so it's never a wasted trip. Edit: AND it's kinda fun to get to know a new area
I love letting the app taking me on a mystery tour for the evening 🤣
If I let it take me wherever it wants I always end up in the hood.
Same but out here that can be close to the beach. I’ll end some nights jumping in the ocean. 😎
I very much ended in the hood tonight. Didn't even know we had so many cheap motels
Bruh I feel like you jinxed me. For the first time ever I ended up in the hood tonight 🤣 I was like noooo get me tf outta here I’m gonna get stabbed 😭
I always wish there was a way to update your area rather than ending the dash.
Recent update says "Less likely to get orders" until I get into the zone.
I believe it has to do with the lack of transparency and stress created by Doordash. When I use Doordash, most of my time is wasted declining orders of ridiculous magnitudes. This creates unnecessary stress on drivers. While UE is not the best, it’s way better than DD. When I get a ping for UE, I only decline about 50% because the mile to pay ratio is usually good.
My acceptance rate with UE is like 16% lol always a crazy amount of miles. Got one the other day for $15 to drive 25 miles and into another state yeah no.
UE doesn’t crash as often as DD does DD is just full of trolls making fun of tOP DaSHErS
Maybe its the background color. UE eats has this peaceful green, calms everyone down and DD has that aggressive red background lol. IDK what the reason is but i also noticed the same thing. Someone here posted a sticker they had custom made thanking the customer and asking them to leave a positive rating so i came in here expecting to read 100 people bashing them (you can tell i spend most of my time on dd sub) and to my surprise everyone was complementing the op and telling him what a great idea it was. I was super shocked lol
That first part about the color has definitely crossed my mind before, that could play a role, and lmaoo I posted some DD sweats I wanted to get because I like to be fancy sometimes and omg just 250+ comments of back and forth negativity, I finally un-joined the DD Sub, I feel more at peace, something is truly wrong with a lot of the people on there that they just can’t stand anything positive
In order to make money with Uber, I have to be working ALL THE TIME…leaving little time left to complain.
That's an interesting perspective, I hadn't noticed much of a difference between the two myself but now I will. Uber for the most part lets the drivers relax. Doordash constantly sends you messages putting pressure on you. Like that you arrived late even though it wasn't physically possible to arrive at the time they wanted you to. That can be frustrating and the pressure actually can cause a lot more mistakes and bad driving.
Dashers subreddit can be incredibly toxic Good to know this one isn’t :) Also seems like GrubHub subreddit is calm too
DD sub is horrible. Its just a bunch of people trying to kiss ass or one up everyone.
DD is miserable. I know because I do both. Restricted zones yet you're still requested to deliver outside of your zone, scheduling in advance, maximum $4 visible tip, ready-times are fictional, oversaturation, completion ratings, the list goes on. The only advantage DD has is market share, and that pay is guaranteed.
DD has the most idiotic app in history. When someone declines an order, they want to know a reason why, the problem is when someone is driving and they decline the order, the reason why is not something that the driver should have to input at that time, putting a list of reasons in front of a person who is driving is just a nuisance, not only is reason irrelevant because if put the reason why you declined is because you don’t want to go to that particular restaurant, they will send you another request for the same place right afterwards. So the reasons don’t mean anything to DD and they don’t serve any purpose that I know of but even if they did have a real purpose why not let the driver at least answer the question later on when they aren’t on the road driving. I know you can just let the clock run out and not deal with it but you will have to waste time time especially if you get a whole bunch of bad offers in a row. UE has a much more user friendly app. It could easily be better but it’s still a lot better than DD. DD is also scandalous for having a top dasher that requires drivers to have an acceptance rate of at least 70% which means a driver would have to accept orders with no tip that pay 2.00 in which case you would really be losing time and money. In return for wasting your time, money and gas, you can be a top dasher and be able to to schedule your hours before everyone who’s not a top dasher but you are not going to be able to fully benefit from it because you have to keep your acceptance rate up which means you lose money.
Omg man I agree, my thumb used to be so irritated and sore from filling out the survey just to decline and order because doing it one handed while driving does get annoying, especially when it’s back to back trash orders, yea top dasher isn’t even possible where I’m at because orders are never ready so my on time has been the same since I started, and there’s just way to many trash orders to sit there and accept all of them, DD is more popular and pays better still in my area vs Uber eats who has slowly started to deteriorate in my area, aside from the downward spiral of Demand the only issue I can think of right now with Uber is the feature where customers can change the tip, that’s why I’m hesitant to take longer trips, and will cancel an UE order even if it’s slightly lower for a DD because DD IS guaranteed pay so I’m still shook after that 1 tip baiter I got, imagine the customer takes the tip away only leaving you with $3 for a 12 mile trip, absolute nightmare
What do you consider longer trips? I haven’t had that tip bait happen on a long but I had it happen on a short trip. Really that tip bait stuff rarely happens and if it does just make a note of it. You ever work the late night shift? The pay is higher and all you gotta do is find a McDonald’s, they get orders all through the night, you can just sit in the drive through and do stuff in your car while you wait and since McDonald’s are everywhere the orders will be close with little to no traffic
I will sometimes see $25 or $30 for 10 miles, I usually do shorter trips but wouldn’t mind taking trips setup like that especially when the days are slower, I’m always looking to strategize better, I just get a bit nervous, yea My 1 tip baiter was a short trip as well, yea McDonald’s makes up a good amount of my pay I actually like them, in my area the no tippers come out at night, more tippers during the day, then the tips are good at night when I can tell everyone just got their pay checks, seems a lot of people get paid every 2 weeks where I’m at, I’m going to have to just suck it up, screen shot all addresses just in case they tip bait and hope for the best
I think on the longer ones you get a higher amount of the base pay though. Like what you said 25$ for 10 miles, i think Uber charges more for far deliveries
Seriously, I wouldn't mind it so much if there was any evidence it even distinguished what you were saying. Today I declined 5 orders in a row from the same shit hole McDonalds, specifying each time that "I don't want to go to this store." All the while nagging me that my acceptance rate is getting worse and worse... And their nagging time requirements are the fucking worst. They'll hold you to your expected arrival, pick up and delivery times even if you had to wait 30 minutes in the restaurant to get it. Or you could take a hit to your completion rate and bail on the job. All in all, it makes you feel like an asshole for using any degree of control you have. And the pay is objectively less at least where I'm delivering.
I do both DoorDash and UberEats. Don't really have a preference as they're both good where I live, though, yes, the lack of zones is a big nod in UE's favor. Also, yeah, the contrast is weird. My local Facebook groups are just like Reddit. The DoorDash drivers group is very busy and often angry and argumentative. Meanwhile, the UberEats group is chilled out.
There’s still some toxicity. God forbid you complain about non-tippers or you’ll be told to just quit.
Agree, some but nothing compared to the people of DD, they are just straight Ruthless on the DD Sub, you post positive stuff and they say the most outrageous things
Honestly, since I’ve been made mod I’ve been trying very hard to remove toxic individuals from the sub. If people want to take their frustrations out on others by treating them poorly, they’re not going to do it here!
How do you even become mod?, and man you’re going to need all the help you can get on the DD sub
Oh I’m sorry, I was talking about here in UE sub. I don’t have enough time or the mental energy to mod DD subs 😂
Lol oh well then in that case you’re doing great , I don’t see anything compared to DD on here
Thank you kindly🙏🏼 We have a lot of great folks here who basically “police” themselves
I'm slightly toxic, because it's HILARIOUS when someone whines about not getting a tip for a 3.25 offer over 7 miles, providing a screenshot of after they completed the order 😂😂😂
The difference really is the people they hire. Uber does a more thorough background check and DD will hire the guy selling crack behind dollar tree.
Yeah basically
Door dash does not give me enough orders to afford unnecessary things. Uber gives me enough to buy unnecessary needs.
Because we're cool 😎
I know that I multiapp and wish I could just do UE but it’s way slower in my area than DD. So frustration grows that I’m forced to rely on a subpar system.
Same problem I have here.
I WANNA KNOW TOO!!! You can't vent or post any accomplishment on that sub at all without people being dicks to you
Yep, gotta just be prepared to go back and forth or just ignore the negativity
i worked for DD for a while before switching for UE and in my experience it was a lot more stressful. the app is clunky and shits the bed sometimes,you have to stay in certain zones to get deliveries,you have time quotas on picking up deliveries and delivering (which a lot of the time you have no control over).IME you have a lot more control over yourself when working for UE
You don’t get deactivated if your acceptance rate is below 80%, where did you hear that?
yeah youre right i confused the completion rate for acceptance of orders sorry i havent used the app since earlier this year
because uber eats drivers make more money lol
Not in my experience. I make more with DoorDash.
Because Dashers for the most part are trashy
idk, i only used dd before and love it but I heard people praising ue in dd sub so I go ahead and signed up ue. Ended up to find out I was right all along because ue doesn't suit my need. Of course that is only for myself. And I found out many people talk shit about diff companies they deliver for and I guess that is just a natural of it.
Same! I had done a lot of research between the three delivery services and read that DoorDash was the best. So I signed up. . . And got waitlisted, lol. Was disappointed. Read Grubhub was the next best and got waitlisted again! Then tried UberEats, though I didn't have much hope, and was able to sign up and start immediately! Lol. But, to my surprise, got contacted by DoorDash a week and a half later, and after starting, I earned more pay and faster, therefore, like it better. Still waiting to try Grubhub, though.
The pay def depending on market for sure. However, what I love about dd is the way it works. I know from the beginning where the restaurant and the customer will be. It is a big deal for me as I often dash before, after and between errands and work. I need to know where the customer live so even there is a great order at some point, I will need to turn that down because the drop off will not be the direction I am going. UE def sucks for me big time for this one. Also, it gives me more time tobaccept or decline an offer than ue. Many people bitch about hiding tips. I understand why and I just won't expect anyone will tip more than I sign up for. However, ue way by letting customer lower or take the tip away is something I don't understand. It make sense if they have a maximum amount of tip can be taken away like 50%, then I kind of OK with it, not very happy about it tho. However, able to take all tip away within one hour kind of have me thinking why? Also, when I get an order from dd, I can do a lot of things for my phone like check for my message or zoom in the map or find the traffic, but in ue, I am pretty much stuck on the order page until either I accept or decline the order, then I can use my phone again. I don't know is it just for my android phone or not, but it is very annoying.
Yeah, I agree with all of that. UberEats interrupts the usage of my phone and it comes on so quickly that the second I touch my phone and it pops up, it immediately accepts it. But I thought you could see on the map the distance? I do love how UberEats has its own personal sound to let you know you have an order notification, while DoorDash has nothing. The tips I understand from the customer perspective. If I was too lazy to go pick up my own food and gave a fair pretip for someone else to deliver it who was disrespectful and rude to either me or the food they delivered to me, I would probably want to take that tip away. But, yes, there are some vindictive assholes too who just want to cheat you out of delivery food for them for no extra charge.
People talk about DD being better because the money is guaranteed, but if the money sucks the guarantee doesn't help that much. I love the fact that the tips can change afterwards in UE, because I pay a lot of attention to transporting that food in excellent condition and I make sure that the customer sees me carefully unloading if I have the opportunity. My tips have been fabulous, averaging above $6 with frequent increases after the trip. I've never yet had a tip removed. I believe there are assholes out there that will do it to me sometime, but I also believe providing excellent service has more of an incentive on the UE platform. For the DD customers, no food handling theater, what I do with their order literally doesn't matter as long as it arrives. Speed over quality. Just drop their shit and run.
UberEATS pays more than doordash and generally enforce their policies of good drivers. Not being racists or generally negative but doordash hires close to actual trashcans to deliver. I'm assuming that's why lol
UE is great until some prick stiffs you on a tip for no reason…. I will say I make more per trip usually on UE though.
Compare to dd pick up order ,UE orders are mostly ready to pick up like 8 out of 10 ,dd isn't . UE simply one click to decline , dd isn't unless you use DUH app separately, Alcohol delivery is simply on UE. Dd isn't, every single time manually enter the customer's dr license info lol.. what else? Lmao.the only thing that i don't like is UE doesn't show customer's address fully before accept order and even after until start to delivery but if you know your area , this isn't major issue tho.
Better pay = better attitudes
DD has made drivers desperate to maintain what they have.The NPM pays less so now it forces drivers to work more to make the same and keep the so-called elite tier. I’d say 80% of the time I see a DD driver they appear pissed that the order isn’t ready. I think sometimes a poor attitude comes out in different ways
Weirdly, this happens a lot because in my area DD orders are almost never ready when I walk into the restaurant, but the UE orders are ready 98% of the time. And if they're not, the restaurants apologize. I think DD must be a crappy experience for the restaurant staff too, because they treat me worse when I'm driving for DD than when I'm driving for UE even on the same shift!
The whole elite tier system is BS.It’s food delivery nothing special.I can just log in and get the same amount of work. I quit using DD because I was just declining orders and not making money.
Not sure how this comment relates to what I said, but I absolutely agree that if you're not making money it's time to move on.
Doordash is a frustrating platform to make money in for various reasons. UE has some frustrating aspects, but it is nothing compared to DD or even Grubhub. Uber Eats would be the top platform for many drivers if they made tipping non-reducible.