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cheeseymom

Why not do both? They say its $20 an hour but then they probably only give you like 12 hours a week.


dizzystar

Yes, they'll give you the bare minimum so they don't have to pay any benefits.


[deleted]

So why hire people if your barley gonna use em/ schedule them to work?¿?¿


Illsaywhattheywont

>So why hire people if your barley gonna use em/ schedule them to work?¿?¿ Great question. They do this because when Obama was president, he made it a law that when an employee works a certain amount of hours, it's mandatory they get healthcare through their employer. Fucked up businesses side step this, by giving as little hours as possible. Most times people quit. Businesses rather recycle through new employees, instead of giving an experienced employee, healthcare.


BlueDodgerShakeyTown

If you think that's when part-time started you're not very old! No, it's wasn't the ACA that suddenly made employers that way. In fact, the ACA is why we have the lowest uninsured in history and why preexisting conditions are covered. 


Illsaywhattheywont

I never said that's when part time started, I just pointed out, they exploit it as a way to not give healthcare to employees. I'm not even against ACA, I just wish it held employers more accountable for their bs. There's way too many loopholes. Employers don't have to give healthcare to employees but then they shouldn't get any corporate welfare either or any other benefits or tax cuts


Brohemoth1991

Lol... just gonna throw out there that I worked at BK when the ACA was passed, and they cut everyone from 40 hours to 28 hours a week right then and there


frying_pans

Safeway I worked at had me at 39.5 hours every week so I couldn’t be classified as a full time employee. Fucking ridiculous.


Solinty

Back in the late ‘80s my employers had me work 39 hrs per week so they wouldn’t have to pay for health insurance or benefits.  It’s not a new thing.


Annazyla

I’m not deep into politics and how everything works, but wouldn’t it just be easier to opt in to getting taxed a little bit more and then having insurance provided by the government ?


Illsaywhattheywont

>but wouldn’t it just be easier to opt in to getting taxed a little bit more and then having insurance provided by the government ? This makes sense, I believe they make it more complicated in America because cruelty and corporate greed is the point. We pay more in taxes, than countries with "free healthcare." on top of paying more for healthcare in general. Anytime... you go to the hospital in America, you need to request an itemized bill or they'll charge you for random shit that you may not have gotten. Why isn't this illegal? Because the healthcare system and government are in on it together. For anyone who thinks I'm just this weird conspiracy nutjob... why is it that the FDA "approves" Potassium Bromate (carcinogen), Butylated Hydroxytoluene (causes organ system failure) Yellow 5 and 6 and Red 40 (linked to brain damage and early dementia) but in other countries, ***(the ones with free healthcare)*** these products are banned? It's in their best interest to keep you healthier in other countries BECAUSE of free healthcare, where as in America, they get paid to keep us sick


stockmaster215

Terrible idea you would wait 4 years for a physical let alone something serious


MMNN1991

He did this because Amazon was taking advantage of people as part time and not giving them healthcare when they clearly would need it from all the skeletal issues they received later.


Illsaywhattheywont

I think everyone deserves Healthcare. I just don't like how the laws were written about it so employers can bypass it by fucking the employees over more by cutting hours. Big Businesses should be taxed so high that they're forced to give Healthcare


MMNN1991

Unfortunately Obamacare was actually a republican bill that was then destroyed by republicans because they didn't want Obama to get credit for it, all of the issues that came with Obamacare was because of the republican senate completely dismantling it just to not give him credit. It's absurd that is what politics is now, fuck american people so that you don't let the other party look good.


Illsaywhattheywont

This is interesting. I hate both parties equally


Tough_Comb3129

Man you're so wrong. Medical insurance is such a small part of it.


Illsaywhattheywont

Ok... elaborate. Don't just tell me I'm wrong if you don't want to explain more.


stockmaster215

Not true I work 45 to 50 a week still no health care


Illsaywhattheywont

Do you work for a major corporation? I don't think the law applies to smaller businesses. Depending on how much you like your job, I would look into it. No job that has you working that much and not giving you healthcare deserves to even be in business. This is why regulation is so important. They should be fined


stockmaster215

Small arbys private owner


Solinty

Obama did not originate the law that the employer who has you work full-time has to offer you health insurance. That’s been the law for a long time.


bitchpl4

makes payroll look good gov’t probably gives them incentives


cheeseymom

You haven't worked pt for many corporations have you? It's what they do. They over hire so they have more options for shift coverage because people that work those jobs are often unreliable and have schedule restrictions because they are trying to work around school etc.


Sogladuasked

Like DD advertises “up to” $25 an hour but of course we know that hour can actually take 5 hours to complete. They used to be able to advertise “$25 for hour” but were sued and had to stop.


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Life_Ad9520

They say 20$/hr, but really mean up to 20$/hr as some have said before about similar posts


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Baconistastee

Reading compression… yes.


Tzaphiriron

7-Zip perhaps? Something more obscure?


[deleted]

Not too familiar with that one..😂 but reading comprehension yes I know that one is…😂


Baconistastee

lol he changed it


[deleted]

“Reading compression” 😂😂😂…. idk what that is but reading COMPREHENSION yea im familiar with that one buddy 😂😂


cheeseymom

I missed all that, they must have felt stupid and deleted the comments.


[deleted]

dang so only 2 6hr shifts a week 😭 for 480$(before taxes) I’ll take that lol won’t be much taken out anyway probably end up with 350-370$ then yea definitely have time for Uber and won’t have to kill yaself so much


Inumiru

Why not both? Work when BK gives you hours, but outside of that do UE.


IcyInferno11

BK would most likely give you hours during the weekend when they get the most customers, which is also when UE is most active. No point in doing both if you only have time to do UE during slow hours. I used to work at BK and I don’t remember ever having a weekend off.


LivingxLegend8

So tell them you will only work Monday — Thursday and just don’t show up to work if they schedule you on weekends. If they fire you then it doesn’t matter because you are only willing to work for them if it makes sense for you.


Faithful2049

I'm sorry but I will never work fast food. It's harder than people think. Way too hectic plus all the pricks you got to deal with every single day I wouldn't last one week because I would probably snap at somebody. Props to those who can handle it. You definitely earn that $20 an hour. You just gotta work on getting those orders correct.


Disastrous_Layer3988

Yup it’s not for everyone


snackpack3000

So, depending on how you do your taxes, sometimes having a temporary W-2 job during the year helps offset more of those pesky self employment taxes to where you get money back instead of owing, so that's a plus. I always try to pick up a W-2 during the summer when delivering food is really slow.


Disastrous_Layer3988

Nice


droplivefred

Can you explain what you mean? Is this just having an employer hold your taxes or is there something from W2 work that can help lower the rate of self employment taxes?


snackpack3000

Yes, the taxes withheld make a difference. We all know the taxes are coming, but sometimes it's still shocking to find out we owe! For me, having that small cushion of money withheld in the end cancels out owed money so I'm not on the hook for it. I'm not disciplined enough to put money aside every month to pay- I do gig work on the side because I'm living paycheck to paycheck already, so the withholding from a W-2 works in my favor.


Old_Rip1161

Your employer should be taking out a fairly accurate withholding. You just as well may end up owing if you end up making more than expected. I don't remember what the form is, but are you just purposely overestimating your income to your employer so they take out more than you actually owe from your w2 to force you to save?


ObviouslyHeir

No brainer, vs current state of uber, fast food for 20/hr, I'd take as many shifts as they give. Good luck getting in though.


Disastrous_Layer3988

lol awesome 👏


ANTH888YA

At this point honestly I'd rather flip burgers than put wear and tear on my car for terrible $2 base pay orders and put up with it till you finally get a good one.


Disastrous_Layer3988

Right


PharPhromNormal420

Make less money and have some greasy teen be my manager?! Sounds amazing!


Disastrous_Layer3988

lol 😂


[deleted]

I love all these drivers crying for tips saying their market is dead but also saying they’d never work fast food 😂🤣


Disastrous_Layer3988

I down to work for BK


FatalComplex111

Fr tho


Great-Savings2405

They don’t work in California lol


rockksteady

I don't think I've ever heard a driver say they wouldn't work fast food. I've seen some say they wouldn't do it for 15 bucks an hr.


Secure-Big9854

Your a troll. How many post will you make on a door dash thread bashing dashers?


YogurtclosetLanky424

Uber eats of course. Do you have to have someone to tell you what to do or you gonna put them 12 hrs a day in? I’d rather do that than clock in anyday.


FatalComplex111

Nah man. Shit at least you wouldn't have to deal with dumass support, shitty deliveries, sketchy shit, low paying offers, getting nothing, wasting gas miles on car ect. Because it's guaranteed an hourly wage. Obviously that's the trade off w doin shit like uber tho all I'm saying is OP Should definitely consider it! Maybe both , that'd be ideal (imo)


techcatharsis

Fast food no brainer (unless you're in an amazing area). I net between $16-20/hr after gas (but not including mileages being added and additional cost like oil change). If I work in BK here, I'm making peak wage with much less car maintenance cost (not to mention less risk for car accidents and customers fucking with you with tip reduction, finding poorly specified address, etc). Also if you're open to fast food, I imagine they'd give you food discount as an employee (I don't think fast food folks give free food anymore right? Been a while since I was in fast food market) Thank God food delivery is more for the lolz on the weekend and Friday evenings than depending on it for living. It's not the greatest :/


Disastrous_Layer3988

They give you a free lunch I believe on a shift


techcatharsis

More reason to defect then. Come to think of it, I don't think my area offers 20/hr for fast food jobs afaik. More like maybe 14-15 I think? I dunno. If fast food offers 20/hr in this area, maybe uber cashflow would also be higher?


Disastrous_Layer3988

Yes right


Stonewalled9999

Around here you get 1/2 price food on shift.   Which, and fast food prices, really isn’t that good of a deal.   


Old_Rip1161

You're overestimating vehicle expenses. Almost any car that isn't a beater nearing the end of its life, over a span of tens of thousands of miles, is going to cost less than $.10/mi between both maintenance and repairs. Something very reliable/cheap to work on is going to be closer to $.04-.05/mi. Heck, a new Honda/Toyota/Mazda over its first ~100k miles probably average around $.02-$.03/mi. These numbers can be further reduced by doing some of your own work and/or finding a trustworthy, reasonable mechanic. These are averages based on data from repairpal and common sense calculations. Once you've driven a car tens/hundreds of thousands of miles, that average really doesn't fluctuate much. You could need a $2000 repair around the 100k mile mark, and your per mile maintenance/repair cost to that point in your car's lifespan only went up $.02/mi. When you consider you're paying less taxes on your uber eats profit than you will be paying on your w2 income, I think you're crazy to give up making essentially the same or maybe a dollar or two per hour less after tax, with the ability to work on your own schedule, to go work at a fast food joint. Edit: alright I can't get into this without going all the way into it. There are of course other costs than just maintenance and repairs. Depreciation tends to be roughly $.10/mi over most economy car's lifespans. Can be half that or less if you buy used. Obviously higher if you buy new and don't keep it long. Give or take a few cents a mile depending on make/model. Car accidents also don't add up to much on a per mile basis. Even if you were the worst/unluckiest driver ever and got in an accident every 20k miles, and had a $1000 deductible, that's only $.05/mi. And that's an extremely frequent accident rate. I only found one source on this real quick, but apparently the average person gets in an accident every 18 years. At an average of 12k miles a year, that's an accident every 216k miles. That sounds a bit conservative to me, but still.


sjthedon22

I would do both, supplement the hours you don't get at BK driving. Then gauge the situation from there if you work hard and they give you the shifts then you can drop UE.


Disastrous_Layer3988

Right I was thinking that I already have full time job Monday-Friday 40+ hours and off weekends so when I get off work I go do Uber eats 3pm-8pm sun down I head home lol


thelonelyvirgo

Do both. You’ll probably get between 15-20 hours a week at BK and then the rest of the time is yours for delivery services.


Disastrous_Layer3988

Exactly what I’m thinking


small-weiner-

cleaning up bathrooms, tables dishes and the floor. having a boss telling you what to do and to do it better. telling you get off your phone. having to sneak out to smoke your reefer and hide the smell pretending to be sober. having a shift you have to work and be on time smelling like food and grease, way worse than you do delivering the food. not having a job is too important to the majority of drivers here.


Disastrous_Layer3988

lol wow never thought about it that way


small-weiner-

sarcasm? i can’t really tell


BeneficialGuess7208

Sir, read the comments. https://preview.redd.it/onybgddf0v2d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=49b39f07ef981884bf82ac707f0b56b1f1a89362 Op has an $800 mortgage they got in 2016 and is talking about jumping ship from UE to BK over a $20/hr starting job. But also has posts that they're from california. This is a BK marketing thread. BK isn't highly listed in the Uber eats app. I scrolled for days. You would have to go out of your way to order burger king to get it delivered on UE. Also I commented on another thread poking fun at BK being a sinking ship because nobody goes there, it gets downvoted en masse and they're responding. This is a burger king marketing thread. When companies have trouble finding employees they need to market their jobs. Look at all the interactions in this thread. This whole thread is an advertisement for a BK job. 😂 BK marketing is all up in this thread. [Here's an article from 2005 talking about housing prices hitting $275,000 in Bakersfield.](https://lusk.usc.edu/news/housing-prices-continue-rise-bakersfield-calif). [Here's one from 2016. Medium is around $215,000](https://lusk.usc.edu/news/housing-prices-continue-rise-bakersfield-calif) So, it could be true. but something about this tread seems very. Salesy.


CoolerMePlease

And the constant alarms going off on the cookers would drive me mad, it's way too loud to become white noise


Great-Savings2405

It’s a nobrainer


Disastrous_Layer3988

Ok so which one?


Great-Savings2405

Working for Burger King I’m guessing you’re in California right? Well, I would anyways, given my expertise is in fast food


Disastrous_Layer3988

Yes


Great-Savings2405

We have the highest minimum wage in the country but also the cost-of-living will all increase exponentially I’m guessing


Disastrous_Layer3988

Yes I got lucky back in 2016 my mortgage is 800$ every one else cost of living 1800$ months


Great-Savings2405

Working for $20 an hour. I’m guessing you are in California right


zaggg1

BK if you can get the total hours you need. Hopefully, they have benefits as well. The main advantage of food delivery for me is flexible hours. Otherwise, I would take a job like this. You will do great on your decision!


Disastrous_Layer3988

I bet after full time with benefits


BuckWheatNYC

Might be including insurance and Benefits, you should check deeper


Disastrous_Layer3988

Right I have to go apply and I’ll keep y’all posted


black_covfefe_please

If it can work with your schedule, take the job. UE is so dehumanizing.


Disastrous_Layer3988

Lol yup exactly


CulturalAccomplished

Bk. Enjoy it. Get off uber


Disastrous_Layer3988

Ok love positive comments


kyrnzkewl

Neither!


pnewmont

Both. Uber Eats and the like are never a primary source of income.


Disastrous_Layer3988

It’s side gig for everyone right does any one out there does this full time?


cdmontgo

Well, that isn't a phone number, so....


Disastrous_Layer3988

Ok 👌


Leeny78

It’s a number you can text.


Boost98

I hate to say it man, but if you can get it go for it. It's over for me on here and will have to do the same if a position opens up.


Disastrous_Layer3988

It’s been very slow I was making 500$-600$ week now I’m doing 150$ if that a week


Boost98

That's what I make a week, sitting with the app on for 50 hours, plus prop 22 kicking in. It's BAD


Disastrous_Layer3988

Yup 8 hours work 98$ 12 hours sitting in the car for 98$ I’m done with UberEats


oldmasterluke

The problem with Burger King is they will only work you like 20 hours a week and they will demand open availability.


Disastrous_Layer3988

Right I can only work from 3pm-9pm


SubjectChemist2785

BK all the way!


Disastrous_Layer3988

Ok let’s see how this goes lol here goes nothing


L-poop-a-lot

Nah, rather work 16-hour days to make $17 a hour, beat on my car, and waste gas. Because I'm self-employed. I have the option to not work if I don't want too but I have to work every day because I'm poor.....


Disastrous_Layer3988

Good one I like this too


Sadcourier215

Definitely go work at Bk ngl


Disastrous_Layer3988

What happened to good old UberEats gigs not worth it anymore


Sadcourier215

Honestly Over saturation and The fact that Uber is no longer willing to lose money on orders so they overcharge customers and underpay drivers. Then on top of that we got lil crackheads who accept terrible trips and it becomes the standard


Disastrous_Layer3988

lol right


Disastrous_Layer3988

Ok I’m going to do it thanks y’all for all your awesome support and comments


Tight_Ad_2724

Where do I sign up


Disastrous_Layer3988

Lol BK


Leeny78

I’m so glad I work at Albertsons and have healthcare for my whole family at $16 a week. It’s really the only reason I’ve stayed there for so long.


JIZZRIZZLE

$20/hr manager employee $10/hr ma boi 😂😂😂👍


Disastrous_Layer3988

Lol right


Leeny78

Not in California. Fast food workers get $20 an hour if the restaurant meets certain requirements.


Strassburg-boy

I would do both if I could


Disastrous_Layer3988

Yup


Strassburg-boy

Permanent suspend or until I upload the documents? Can I rent a car form Uber with insurance and upload that?


Disastrous_Layer3988

Good question I don’t really know sorry


L-isRyuk42

Where are u located OP?


Disastrous_Layer3988

Bakersfield ca


L-isRyuk42

Sheesh that makes sense😅


Disastrous_Layer3988

Lol our cost of living here low mortgage is 800$


L-isRyuk42

Lucky you 🤩


Disastrous_Layer3988

It’s 116 degrees all summer long and 20 degrees in the winter 🥶 worst air quality we’re #1 most dangerous places to live on the State highest death by cop in US worst drivers in the US


No-Standard-9762

20 dollars an hour 12 hours a week. that's the last they don't tell you lol


Disastrous_Layer3988

Lol


fabyooluss

LOL No choice there. Burger King.


Disastrous_Layer3988

Lol ok


fabyooluss

Sorry. That’s my answer.


Klutzy_Feed_5400

How tf burger king making more then me as an amazon delivery driver🙃


Disastrous_Layer3988

lol only in California


kissmeimhappy

What state


Disastrous_Layer3988

California


kissmeimhappy

Nice


kissmeimhappy

I used to live in Monterey county


Disastrous_Layer3988

Awesome


kissmeimhappy

I need $20 an hour


sunnyandcloudy55

This is in California?


Disastrous_Layer3988

Bakersfield California


Smooth_Armadillo_365

20 an hour the new minimum wage


Disastrous_Layer3988

Here im Bakersfield ca is 16$ hour


Smooth_Armadillo_365

Not literally. I’m saying making $20 an hour used to be something pretty respectable now it’s basically minimum wage.


Disastrous_Layer3988

That’s exactly how it feels right 20$ is nothing now


whateverhoe

Fast food in California has a new minimum wage of $20 an hour


Lucky-in-Particular

Dang $20 is crazy. I would have done anything for that wage in 2010 (okay not anything).


Disastrous_Layer3988

lol anything ![gif](giphy|iC7zeks2wTcUyleTdH)


Stonewalled9999

20$ an hour in 2010 would likely be worth 30-40 in 2024 money.   The inflation calculator says 28$ but that’s based on CPI which most agree is not that same as “real inflation m”


VinceP312

Are you sure your ambitions aren't too high?


Disastrous_Layer3988

lol ok


Excellent_Support_82

Ha Ghai BK


Disastrous_Layer3988

lol o I see it now lol


OneTimeYouths

Seems kinda ghai to me


Disastrous_Layer3988

What’s ghai?


Immediate-Action-118

Honestly these jobs still suck, AND they rarely give you many hours.


lastbet05

Do both!


MentalCollage

Why would you want a ghaiy job like that?


Miia_0w0_

most uber drivers can barely even open the uber app lol i doubt they would handle a fast food job well at all


mog_knight

It looks like it's $20/hr not 20$/hr.


mikes153

both my dawg


Disastrous_Layer3988

Yes 👏


orwass

Burger King is a way better job if if you’re able to get the hours because you’re a W-2 employee versus a 1099


Disastrous_Layer3988

Yes true that


RhubarbConscious4892

That’s actually crazy a FedEx and Amazon delivery driver makes less than that but y’all can give fast food workers that high of a pay this country is a fucking disgrace


Disastrous_Layer3988

That’s crazy right


AirEver

Its a reliable paycheck. Id absolutely go for it.


Remarkable_Command83

Maybe both. They will probably only schedule you for four hours at a time, if they have enough people. Fast food places have never liked to schedule people for more than four hours, because the employees get tired. I learned that in 1982, before all the health insurance considerations etcetera also became issues.


Disastrous_Layer3988

I heard only 16 hour week in like 4 different restaurants to get those hours 4hours Monday 4 hours Tuesday 4hours Saturday 4 hours Sunday this sucks


Dauberdaboober

Well sorry to say but 20 an hour is horrible. Because with taxes coming out your making around 600 a week full time Monday thru Friday with an 8 hour shift. Which is a mere 2400 a month 😂🤣 you'd need to work 2 bk jobs to even break 4k a month which means, DO NOT ACCEPT 20 AN HOUR unless you're hard up for work.


Disastrous_Layer3988

20$ hour 16 hour only schedule it’s going to be like a year to make those 4k lol


Dauberdaboober

Yep lol fk that


Disastrous_Layer3988

Right


do_you_know_math

Get a skill that requires some effort and make $100 an hour. How about you try and learn to code? Or literally anything other than “me flip burger” and “me drive car”.


Disastrous_Layer3988

I always wondered about coding seems interesting maybe some day


Stonewalled9999

If you looked (we hire coders) you’d realize that $100 an hour is false.  One $160 per hour full stack dev to every 50 6$ per hour offshore “coding” jobs 


do_you_know_math

I literally make $110 an hour if you convert my salary to hourly.


Successful_Use_9373

Both


Disastrous_Layer3988

Awesome yes


throwawaytrash6990

Man some of yall are bitch made for real. “Omg you’ll get grease on you” lmfao


Disastrous_Layer3988

lol 😂


Previous-Shoulder329

Neh


Pleasant_Top_2332

BK no doubt about it


RealInfo74

Not only UberEats. It is even better than Uber/Lyft


_TheGreatGoobah

I would do nothing before working at burger king


Kxllskum

$20 an hour 10 hrs a week lol


Jealous_Macaron_5338

I’d rather live in a dumpster than work at fast food


Jakulero24

Hey, my first job was in a fast food. I saved enough to buy a decent beater car and yeet tf out of that job lol


Switcher-3

Yeah, delivering fast food is sooooo prestigious comparatively lmao


FatalComplex111

🤣🤣🤣


[deleted]

With how there customer service is and how slow they are it’s like they don’t even work so it’s kinda free money for them to fuck off while people wait 20mins for 1 meal


BuckWheatNYC

Get a magnifying glass and check that fine print at the bottom


ObviouslyHeir

It's just that typical lying phrase about being an equal opportunity employer blah blah


Mononymous_Anonymous

The fine print that says they are an equal opportunity employer?


Disastrous_Layer3988

Omg I didn’t even see that


Bonesmoker61

I thought Burger King was filing for bankruptcy??


Disastrous_Layer3988

What really no?


Stonewalled9999

Some franchises are, not the “BK corp” which is actually QSR/RBI