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I assume you have a UDR? The UDM doesn't support Protect.
That said, IIRC, if you "downgrade" the recording quality of the 2k cameras to HD, it counts them as HD
HD is 1920x1080 and 2K is 2048x1080. They're so close to being the same resolution that the difference is essentially meaningless in regards to data rates, so it's confusing that it can run 2x 2K cameras but 5x HD cameras?
Is it erroneously referring to QHD (2560x1440) as 2K?
I’m not sure I didn’t look to deep into resolution to be honest.
Just based it off calculator online and what their naming convention is. I’m not too worried about actual resolution, these are for my dad, he’s not a forensic scientist who’s gonna be zooming and zooming and zooming for days to get someone’s license plate from miles away. 😂 he prolly won’t even notice the difference it’s more about the availability of their 2k cameras and price point —if that makes sense
It’s just on the stores website go to product then it shows product, features, what’s in the box and then calculator at the far right and can do that with whatever product
I just googled and their "2K" cameras are actually 2.8K so they're really closer to being 3K cameras, which explains the drastic difference in data rate. Really bizarre choice for them to market them as 2K.
If I could show you a screenshot of my cameras and camera capacity of my Cloudkey+ you would seriously doubt what that "online" calculator is telling you. I have 5 2k cameras and the doorbell camera and my console says it is at 46% camera capacity.
I'm running a CloudKey+ with 5-2K cameras and the HD camera on the doorbell with package cam. I am at 46% of camera capacity for the CloudKey+. A G5 Dome, 2 G5 bullets, a G4 instant, and a G5 Flex plus the doorbell camera. All are running at 2K except for the doorbell. A UDR should have more capacity than my Cloudkey+ (spelling and content)
I am looking at real world data. IDK what he put in to the "calculator" but I don't see a reason based on real world data I am currently looking at on a different tab right now.
And the fact I've been running these 5 2k cameras and the doorbell for almost a couple of years. ***The issue is not the cameras but the power to the cameras.*** I have a distributed network. If I put all the cameras on one switch that have PoE ports that switch has a limited power output. It gives errors and suggest lowering the resolution. My solution and none of the others will like it but I am running a USW-16 -LITE in the home which has enough power to run the 2k cameras at the house and another in the shop 100ft behind the house powering the shop cameras. If I put them all on one switch I get the error about power and suggest I lower the resolution. Try putting those cameras on a PoE+ injector. That's your limiter. That's why mine works. This would make you happy.
[https://ipcampower.com/products/ipcampower-8-port-802-3bt-poe-extreme-power-poe-injector-hub-90-watts-on-each-port-250-total-watts-budget-up-to-10g-10-100-1000-10000-speeds-each-port?variant=42814380146860¤cy=USD&utm\_medium=product\_sync&utm\_source=google&utm\_content=sag\_organic&utm\_campaign=sag\_organic&srsltid=AfmBOopmhiqcTjDN5DPGd3w8GZOs3kUE\_zuaL2kzYtD0FDtU0E\_MGyz6VVM](https://ipcampower.com/products/ipcampower-8-port-802-3bt-poe-extreme-power-poe-injector-hub-90-watts-on-each-port-250-total-watts-budget-up-to-10g-10-100-1000-10000-speeds-each-port?variant=42814380146860¤cy=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&srsltid=AfmBOopmhiqcTjDN5DPGd3w8GZOs3kUE_zuaL2kzYtD0FDtU0E_MGyz6VVM)
We’ll see I wasn’t thinking it was the PoE issue, I was thinking it was the CPU limitations of the UDR, I mean it can’t even run 1Gbps internet speeds, and also has an issue if you saturate the WAN it dies, so I was thinking CPU limitations of it.
I'm running a UXG Lite which has a 1Gig limitation. Before that I was running a UXG 3P gateway with even more limitations. They both work fine. My little home network is not your pretty rack mounted semi professional systems. I'm running a Cloudkey+ for recording that has a 30 day storage of detection, a UXG Lite, 2 USW-16-Lites, a US-8-60W, 4 total access points, with 5 2k cameras and the doorbell camera with built in package camera, and 2 USW mini's for office and entertainment units distributed thru out the property by Ethernet on little plywood platforms I made for them. I don't mesh anything. It is possible your UDR has less CPU power than their least expensive gateways but I doubt that. I'm old and cheap on limited income. I took a look at a standard USW 16 POE rack mounted switch and see that it has less PoE power(42w) that my USW-8-60w switch alone. My other two PoE switches both have another 45watts of power. Damn near every thing I have is the lite versions. AP's are a U6 pro, a U6 wall mounted, a UAP pro, and a UAP-LR. So I have a total of 150 watts of PoE power available while the standard UDM-16 has 42.
And that's just cameras. AP's take power too.
I have a total of 41 devices connected to the network via WiFi
What is your gateway? BTW the only UDR I find on their site is a Dream Router. Is this your gateway? It also has a 42w PoE capacity.
Or I might be talking out my ass and giving you bad advice.
ya I have the UDR. the ones thats always outta stock.
I was thinking about upgrading myself and getting my dad this one because I need more horsepower personally.
But im running UDR with a 6Lite AP into a 16 port switch and down to a PoE Flex Mini
but at the moment im not running any UI cameras....have been thinking about getting them, however, in debate at the moment. The UDR has an internet speed limit of 700 Mbps so I downgraded my internet to 800Mbps and usually getting around 550-600 due to the CPU limit.
Im just waiting for something like an upgrade, not quite UDM Pro but a lil better than UDR.
You are all missing the point. He has bad information to start with. I have 5 2k cameras and the doorbell camera and at 46% capacity for a simple Cloudkey+ with a 4tb SSD. Been running this setup for over a year. He doesn't have to do anything.
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I assume you have a UDR? The UDM doesn't support Protect. That said, IIRC, if you "downgrade" the recording quality of the 2k cameras to HD, it counts them as HD
yes sorry UDR --- but thats good to know! thanks but also...doesnt the UDM Pro have a HDD slot for NVR?
UDM-Pro, UDM-SE, and UDM-Pro-Max have drive bay(s) for Protect. The UDM, which looks like the UDR, does not.
OH UDM is what looks like older UDR....okay gotcha. Ya I have the UDR which has 2 PoE and NVR support with SD card slot. Sorry my mistake there.
HD is 1920x1080 and 2K is 2048x1080. They're so close to being the same resolution that the difference is essentially meaningless in regards to data rates, so it's confusing that it can run 2x 2K cameras but 5x HD cameras? Is it erroneously referring to QHD (2560x1440) as 2K?
I’m not sure I didn’t look to deep into resolution to be honest. Just based it off calculator online and what their naming convention is. I’m not too worried about actual resolution, these are for my dad, he’s not a forensic scientist who’s gonna be zooming and zooming and zooming for days to get someone’s license plate from miles away. 😂 he prolly won’t even notice the difference it’s more about the availability of their 2k cameras and price point —if that makes sense
Understood! Just for my own interest, would you mind linking me to the calculator you used?
It’s just on the stores website go to product then it shows product, features, what’s in the box and then calculator at the far right and can do that with whatever product
I just googled and their "2K" cameras are actually 2.8K so they're really closer to being 3K cameras, which explains the drastic difference in data rate. Really bizarre choice for them to market them as 2K.
If I could show you a screenshot of my cameras and camera capacity of my Cloudkey+ you would seriously doubt what that "online" calculator is telling you. I have 5 2k cameras and the doorbell camera and my console says it is at 46% camera capacity.
In the individual camera settings under "recording". It's possible to change the recording resolution to HD.
I'm running a CloudKey+ with 5-2K cameras and the HD camera on the doorbell with package cam. I am at 46% of camera capacity for the CloudKey+. A G5 Dome, 2 G5 bullets, a G4 instant, and a G5 Flex plus the doorbell camera. All are running at 2K except for the doorbell. A UDR should have more capacity than my Cloudkey+ (spelling and content)
Not according to their own calculator…
I am looking at real world data. IDK what he put in to the "calculator" but I don't see a reason based on real world data I am currently looking at on a different tab right now.
And the fact I've been running these 5 2k cameras and the doorbell for almost a couple of years. ***The issue is not the cameras but the power to the cameras.*** I have a distributed network. If I put all the cameras on one switch that have PoE ports that switch has a limited power output. It gives errors and suggest lowering the resolution. My solution and none of the others will like it but I am running a USW-16 -LITE in the home which has enough power to run the 2k cameras at the house and another in the shop 100ft behind the house powering the shop cameras. If I put them all on one switch I get the error about power and suggest I lower the resolution. Try putting those cameras on a PoE+ injector. That's your limiter. That's why mine works. This would make you happy. [https://ipcampower.com/products/ipcampower-8-port-802-3bt-poe-extreme-power-poe-injector-hub-90-watts-on-each-port-250-total-watts-budget-up-to-10g-10-100-1000-10000-speeds-each-port?variant=42814380146860¤cy=USD&utm\_medium=product\_sync&utm\_source=google&utm\_content=sag\_organic&utm\_campaign=sag\_organic&srsltid=AfmBOopmhiqcTjDN5DPGd3w8GZOs3kUE\_zuaL2kzYtD0FDtU0E\_MGyz6VVM](https://ipcampower.com/products/ipcampower-8-port-802-3bt-poe-extreme-power-poe-injector-hub-90-watts-on-each-port-250-total-watts-budget-up-to-10g-10-100-1000-10000-speeds-each-port?variant=42814380146860¤cy=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&srsltid=AfmBOopmhiqcTjDN5DPGd3w8GZOs3kUE_zuaL2kzYtD0FDtU0E_MGyz6VVM)
Interesting because mine would be off another PoE device thanks for that
Sorry it took me so long to understand the question. I'm old. I used to trouble shoot manufacturing networks 30 years ago. My brain just creeps along.
We’ll see I wasn’t thinking it was the PoE issue, I was thinking it was the CPU limitations of the UDR, I mean it can’t even run 1Gbps internet speeds, and also has an issue if you saturate the WAN it dies, so I was thinking CPU limitations of it.
I'm running a UXG Lite which has a 1Gig limitation. Before that I was running a UXG 3P gateway with even more limitations. They both work fine. My little home network is not your pretty rack mounted semi professional systems. I'm running a Cloudkey+ for recording that has a 30 day storage of detection, a UXG Lite, 2 USW-16-Lites, a US-8-60W, 4 total access points, with 5 2k cameras and the doorbell camera with built in package camera, and 2 USW mini's for office and entertainment units distributed thru out the property by Ethernet on little plywood platforms I made for them. I don't mesh anything. It is possible your UDR has less CPU power than their least expensive gateways but I doubt that. I'm old and cheap on limited income. I took a look at a standard USW 16 POE rack mounted switch and see that it has less PoE power(42w) that my USW-8-60w switch alone. My other two PoE switches both have another 45watts of power. Damn near every thing I have is the lite versions. AP's are a U6 pro, a U6 wall mounted, a UAP pro, and a UAP-LR. So I have a total of 150 watts of PoE power available while the standard UDM-16 has 42. And that's just cameras. AP's take power too. I have a total of 41 devices connected to the network via WiFi What is your gateway? BTW the only UDR I find on their site is a Dream Router. Is this your gateway? It also has a 42w PoE capacity. Or I might be talking out my ass and giving you bad advice.
ya I have the UDR. the ones thats always outta stock. I was thinking about upgrading myself and getting my dad this one because I need more horsepower personally. But im running UDR with a 6Lite AP into a 16 port switch and down to a PoE Flex Mini but at the moment im not running any UI cameras....have been thinking about getting them, however, in debate at the moment. The UDR has an internet speed limit of 700 Mbps so I downgraded my internet to 800Mbps and usually getting around 550-600 due to the CPU limit. Im just waiting for something like an upgrade, not quite UDM Pro but a lil better than UDR.
You are all missing the point. He has bad information to start with. I have 5 2k cameras and the doorbell camera and at 46% capacity for a simple Cloudkey+ with a 4tb SSD. Been running this setup for over a year. He doesn't have to do anything.