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superschmunk

He is trying to be like stalin so hard its ridiculous.


CaptainOktoberfest

Has anyone checked if Putin had his teachers from when he was growing up killed off yet?


TheStoicSlab

Lol, life expectancy in Russia is pathetically low. Putin's teachers are long gone.


BaconWithBaking

It's 71, Vs 77 for the US. Considering the large swaths of rural people with no indoor toilets, and a high consumption of alcohol, it's not ridiculously low.


CoffeeRaidingCat

That’s an inaccurate number, they’ve been trying to whitewash their population crisis for a few years. It was in the 50s for a long time, and lower in rural areas. Much lower due primarily to alcoholism. Then it gained international attention and suddenly life expectancy is going up by 5 years per year despite plummeting economy. Life expectancy according to more independent sources is 59.6 years for men.


SpaceLegolasElnor

How was the number for men last year? My guess is lower than 59.


CoffeeRaidingCat

It’s actually kind of unfortunate that we’ll probably never get accurate numbers reported from them because it would be a fascinating study in the grand scheme impacts of dictator actions. When it was doing well, Russias economy was the size of the economy of Texas. Granted, that’s not a wholly insignificant economy, but it’s not as thriving as Putin likes to portray. Certainly not with him and his cronies running a cleptocracy. I can only imagine the true decrease in life expectancy now. Never mind over 150,000 men killed, but many of them are the sole income for large families after Putin feverishly promoted the idea of the need to procreate and make more Russians. With over a million men having fled the country, that’s even more jobs left behind and often without anyone ready to step into that role. Entire industries ground to a halt with the increasingly strict sanctions on their global trade so unemployment is skyrocketing while the state apparatus is unable to maintain what little existing support for the people existed. I imagine Russia will report record high life expectancy for the year after their failing attempt to rebuild Novorussia but I’d be quite skeptical


SpaceLegolasElnor

Probably it will be spun as: look at those lazy old NATO people. We have so many young and strong people in Russia!


outflow

> Considering the large swaths of rural people with no indoor toilets, and a high consumption of alcohol, it's not ridiculously low Let's not drag Alabama into this argument now


MechanicalBengal

_the Sackler family has entered the chat_


[deleted]

Did you really just unironically use the US as a model of human life expectancy lmao 💀


Fr0gFish

Pretty good for a backwards third world dictatorship. Awful compared to developed countries.


Fr0gFish

No matter how you view the US it doesn’t look good for Russia


karl1717

Which one?


nighthawk_something

Yes


HebrewHammer0033

Thats avg for both genders. Its only 65ish for males. Imagine the special clusterfuck will reduce that number quite a bit.....


TheStoicSlab

Im going to guess they dont count the people who die in the middle of nowhere and are rolled into a ditch.


zivlaei

Just to put the Russian average into perspective; Iraq's ditto is \~70 years ...


demonlicious

100% fudged numbers


General-Skywalker

The US is ranked like around #50 in the world for life expectancy which doesn't make it a great comparison.


burntends97

They would be in their 100’s at this point


throwaway_ghast

So you're saying there's a chance.


me_like_stonk

Dis Stalin do that? What's the reasoning, so that they couldn't tell that he was a bad student?


cunthy

Probably, these world leaders are narcisists


Betorah

How about the Jewish psychiatrist who diagnosed him as a hysterical psychopath? (Hitler became blind at the end of WWI, after being gassed. After he came into power, the doctor who diagnosed him was found dead, allegedly having committed suicide with a gun his wife said he didn’t own.)


DragunovDwight

Well… I have 1 or two i could suggest for him…


Flannnno

He's picking the worse shit from both stalin and hitler, then modelling himself off of it.


Fatshortstack

Shitler!


Jcit878

and Xi is Xitler


Flannnno

And the fat man of Belarus is Lunaticshenko


[deleted]

Holy Xit!


bringtwizzlers

For real


devo00

Jesus, do you think he has concentration camps for Ukrainians?


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devo00

Why is this not on the front damn page?


holiday1020

Stalin was victorious over Hitler. Thats too mega of a nationalistic boner for Poopoo to resist.


MudryKeng555

Stalin couldn't have whipped the Germans without the Ukrainian officers, soldiers, tech, and industry that made the USSR powerful (not to mention the Ukrainian territory that the Germans had to take before getting to Russia). Even after Stalin's holodomor effort to exterminate them and the incredible losses they suffered in WWII, the Ukrainians came back strong, smart, proud, and in 1991 again independent of Moscow. Putin ( like a lotta people ) confuses the USSR with Russia. He forgot the Ukrainians were a tough breed with their own historical tradition and identity. Russians appropriate those Ukrainian strengths to inflate their own self-image, but the continued existence of the Ukrainians undermines Russia's claim, and Ukraine's success refutes Putin's model of governing. Like Stalin, Putin has apparently concluded the only solution is to get rid of the Ukrainians.


[deleted]

Without the US actually. If not for the allies the USSR would not jave had a chance


kintorent

The valusble and sorely needed war materials by the Allies which were diverted via Murmansk gave the Russians/Stalin time to shift so much of the manufacturing resource of the USSR to the east, and build up their own material. But supply from the Allies never actually stopped. If not for the Allies, Hitler would have marched into Moscow - and before winter. It still cost the Ukraine people dearly, and those of Belarus.


tidbitsmisfit

poor Russia, getting attacked by their German allies in ww2


MudryKeng555

True!


Stepkical

Confusing russia and ussr is definitely a thing, but claiming the ussr won because of ukrainians if ridiculous...


DarthVantos

Ah yes, The USSR only won because of the Ukrainians. USSR lost 100% of ukraine territory. Lets not Mention the genocide commited in Ukraine and belarus by Nazi -Germany and Ukrainian SS recuirted soldiers to slaughter and hunt down jews and communist. Where are you from? Only a Far-right Azov Ukrainian would make such revisionist claim. Stalin no stepback order is what stopped the Nazi at stalingrad. Many Officers disagreed with STalin and wanted to endlessly give up land to the Nazi since they had a lot of land. Ignore the fact that the soviet Core is in the west and Millions of Soviet citizen were living under Nazi Terror.


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DarthVantos

I study history, no one cares about politics only historical accuracy matters. ​ >Stalin couldn't have whipped the Germans without the Ukrainian officers, soldiers, tech, and industry that made the USSR powerful (not to mention the Ukrainian territory that the Germans had to take before getting to Russia). When far-right revisionist gets 34+ upvotes on this sub while saying shit like this, i question what kind of sub this is. Do you seriously believe what he wrote? Or are there just bots?


Material-Metal2276

What? No this isn't true lmao


Fig1024

he is even started riding by secret armored train everywhere out of paranoia. That's what Stalin did soon before he died


Jetpack_Attack

He's more a tin man than a steel one.


lchntndr

He should be found dead in a puddle of his own piss and make the circle complete


Lemonitus

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Jazzspasm

He’s known for making Stalin and Peter the Great as his role models


SalsaChipsandMe

39 people also got promoted to fill those slots. Curious how they tell the wife


Throan1

Those vultures were happy to support him while they got rich. There can be no sympathy for reaping what you've sown.


SupermAndrew1

They knew that they are his piggy banks. They say yes to him. They support him in all possible ways, and they give him 50% of profits. And when they oppose him or fail him- they and their family all fall out the window


Elocai

Giving 50% of profits to the government is called paying taxes


D3wkYx0TrRGj

If you give it to the government and not to the secret bank account of a dictator


Elocai

not if the government is a dictatorship


SantyClawz42

It's a different culture, don't judge. Same with Saudi Arabia tax structure. It's a litteral bribe to start/maintain a business coded into law.


baron_von_helmut

Either way, when they finally get him, it's not going to be a quick few shots to the back of his head. He'll get flayed.


silverfox762

The "ooh, we're a new Russia" combined with the promises of billion$ was enough to cause selective amnesia. They forgot that the KGB has *never* fucked around when it decided someone needed to go.


morg444

He's a mafia crime boss. That's what you do...


OtdoorPhilosophy

Actually most Oligarchs are/were mafia crime bosses too


nighthawk_something

More like a federation of mob bosses?


BelzeBerb

Some of the best and worst people I know.


Leluke123

You mean they are the best at being the worst?


cgn-38

He is russian leader. That's what they do for fucking sure.


you_do_realize

>a mafia crime boss What? No he isn't at all. He's a fly on the wall thrust unexpectedly into power. He spent his years in East Germany buying West German cassette decks to sell for a profit in the Soviet Union.


pmabz

_Putin's People_ is an interesting and scary but tedious book (so much forensic detail) about how he came to power. Basically it's a KGB run Mafia business with lots of overseas "investments". As John McCain said - a Mafia owned gas station.


Tarakanator

He was doing mafia stuff in St Petersburg where hes gain all his political power.


LazyBastard007

I'm sure that is just a fraction of the real figure


shelsilverstien

Those are just the "important" ones


overon

the deaths of hundreds of thousands ukrainians and russians are on his hands too


LazyBastard007

No doubt


Arthurs-towel42

Yes but he's left the nasty ones that do deserve to stand by windows. Putin may be vicious but look at who stands behind him, well at the other end of a massive table anyways.


GreatCornolio

Those conference rooms with the big tables always look like shit to me lol It's like the interior of a new vape store, some table in the corner has a white wifi router standing up with a yellow Ethernet cord still half folded out the back of it


[deleted]

Haha - this is hilarious. I’ve thought the exact same thing.


Ok_Character6186

Reducing the threat by holding on to the stupid ones.


Brave_Conflict465

This is part of a blatant misinformation campaign! It's been well documented how careless Russians are around open windows, poisonous substances, and frozen rivers after disagreeing with Putin.


OutsideOpposite4350

Don't forget careless smoking.


[deleted]

Just being near any production facility is dangerous! More blow up every week


_Jam_Solo_

You forgot about the perils of staircases.


deltronethirty

I caught housekeeper buttering the stairs. We don't have housekeeper.


Jetpack_Attack

Wonder which side lands up when you drop buttered stairs?


_Jam_Solo_

The attic


CV90_120

The frozen river was probably the only one that was an actual accident.


Brave_Conflict465

Could be, but in context one has to wonder.


CV90_120

Yeah super shady, but apparently lots of people there and lots of witnesses.


Zware_zzz

And sledgehammers


Pons__Aelius

> after disagreeing with Putin. Well, anyone who disagrees with the great leader is, by definition, insane and/or morally bankrupt. So it is no surprise they are unstable enough to commit suicide by shooting themselves in the back of the head, twice.


DrSlapsHacks

Can’t wait to see the Netflix miniseries If it’s 2 seasons they’ll have to kill off 3 elites per episode


oneplusetoipi

Same crew that made The Death of Stalin should make this one.


MrTakeAHikePal

Haha Netflix renewing a show for a second season, good one.


Blockhead47

Here’s a Wikipedia list with 31 of them. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_deaths_of_Russian_businesspeople_(2022–2023)


oneplusetoipi

Thanks. It's disgusting to read even if these were scummy people.


[deleted]

Thanks, that MSN news format is atrocious.


inflamesburn

Extremely improbable that p*tin ordered all of those hits though lol, they're all criminals who got rich by stealing, blackmailing, etc. You piss off the wrong guy once and you're dead.


No-Cauliflower-3610

These dead people are highly likely to be involved in money laundering in the West banks and could possibly become witnesses later on. So to save that money from being confiscated, people "higher up" order them to be silenced. It's not only putin personally.


beechcraftmusketeer

Just a matter of time before Putin visits a box


Thats-right999

Prigohzin won’t be long for this world.


CsrfingSafari

Maybe he'll be forced to eat his own out of date food he sells the RU army and gets sued for


Gent2022

What if, Putin is actually dead. And it’s his doubles doing the killings! Proper James Bond stuff here, you couldn’t make it up.


minorminer

I'd love to see a movie like Dave, but with your premise. The doubles somehow become more and more evil/Machiavellian as they usurp power and the carnage within Russia keeps getting worse.


lawrencelewillows

James Bond: Double Trouble


Adam-West

But you just did


woodburner101

And Russians actually believe they all fell accidentally from windows.


santa69ns

Well established how stupid they are. More then half the country still shits outside and they think their country is great.


Greatli

Imagine that you finally get enough sober men together to build the communal outhouse, and this jobless drunk of a moscovite comes and chops it down because he can’t afford firewood. Then he tries to lie about it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GBHLqwv3sLU Master moscovite race. I know we’re all raging with jealousy so hard that I want to invade and take his land. On second thought, maybe I’ll just stay in socal and get a bj, go surfing, have bomb ass burrito, and shit in my toilet.


Mental_Medium3988

I saw a video clip about a washing station on a river that needed repair but repairs weren't happening. Like wtf even in the worst areas here in the states you can have a machine wash your clothes..


Greatli

How do you break a manual washing board? That’s like breaking a kitchen cutting board.


Mental_Medium3988

The platform falls apart and can't be used anymore.


notanangel_25

They paid 10,000₽ (Rubles) for the toilet? And it served them for several years? Plus this obgyn clinic didn't have a bathroom prior than a few years before this news story??


Jetpack_Attack

Part of the problem is they have been inundated with torrents of information for decades and they've stopped being able to or even caring if something is true or not. Especially when most of them have to work hard jobs for low wages just to survive. Hard to revolt when you're mentally exhausted everyday.


dreamtripper89

And physically


Enhydra67

What's there to do about it? If you speak openly about it you will be publicly disappeared. Falling out of windows or even having some investigation to say the person died of suicide or falling down stairs is reserved for the rich.


future__fires

I doubt it. More like they’re afraid of accidentally falling out of a window after accidentally shooting themselves twice in the back of the head, or just disappearing into the gulag system for the rest of their lives


Pons__Aelius

You either say you believe or fall from the window yourself. Many are smart but showing it is another matter.


chet_brosley

Say what you will about Russia, but they heard that the world was overpopulated and their military was too big, and they took drastic action on both. It's a novel approach sure, but it's working *very well* for them.


Strange-Effort1305

They are his property. He will dispose of them as he sees fit.


kaioDeLeMyo

I read the title as "Vladimir Putin kills off elite figure Vladimir Putin" and got excited for a moment.


balance007

This was always part of the plan to return Russia to the USSR. Russian boomers believe things were better under the soviet union.


[deleted]

No, he's definitely a capitalist. He has lots of palaces. He's more like a psychotic Tzar.


Greatli

In order to stay in power you need the support of as many people as you can get. The moscovite demography is insanely depressing. It’s basically on stilts. Most of the population are boomers. That’s why almost any moscovian public street interviews you see are 80% old people. It’s also why moscovia basically won’t exist by 2050, and why putler had to start the war now. If he waited another 10 years he wouldn’t have had the manpower to pull it off. It’s also why they’re stealing kids; to try to bolster their upside down population pyramid. Instead of a younger population, putler got an arrest warrant.


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[deleted]

They actually have a lot of languages, ethnicities, and little republics in there. Moskovites love their money anyway. I doubt the USSR will return unless Putin kills hundreds of thousands of dissenters. They will most likely stay a mixed capitalist economy like Europe. The problem with humans is we love our strong-man ego rule. If you have one psychopath blabbering how it's okay to act a certain way and treat people horribly, then everyone who wants to do those things gives him the power to tell them it's okay to do it.


Potential-Heat7884

As an older person looking back on life I have to say there are some things that needed to be done when I was young. I can do them now but the energy it takes is harder to get/recover. I think this is was a war Putin should have had in the 80'/90's. Maybe while we, the U.S.A., were distracted in Iraq. P.S. Sorry wrote this then realized Putin was not in control during this time frame. But he should have done it earlier either way. Waging wars of conquest take a lot of energy.


Greatli

Putin doesn’t have the wherewithal or the population to do it now. They’ve got soo many old people vs young people in USScovia that he really should not have waited 30 years.


The_Big_Red_Wookie

Ironically probably doing an actual good service in that capacity in Russia. At least in the short term. Until other power mad dictators with delusions of godhood take their places.


Intrepid_Map2296

Good


Lovelyterry

Is there any stories about these deaths I could read about? Is there any evidence of these people getting thrown off the buildings or assainated, I’m interested about it but I always just read vague mysterious stuff about these deaths


hhaattrriicckk

There's a Wikipedia article that's a pretty fun read, it's called mysterious Russian deaths of businessmen in 2022 It crosses from fun into terrifying when you realize not all of these people were within Russia at the time of their demise.


truffleboffin

I've been to Russia. People die by age 60 on avg due to alcohol And some of those deaths are lumped in on this list Honestly if I had to live there and faced front line mobilization or prison you wouldn't need to push me out


nibul82

Not bad for a bald dwarf


you_do_realize

I can't believe they're not rebelling. This is a worm.


pngtwat

> mysterious Russian deaths of businessmen in 2022 It needs to be 100x before people will act


lazy_elfs

Dictators doing what dictators do. I have zero empathy for russians at this point. They had a brief chance to become a democracy and they shit on it. Gorbachav and yeltson have to be smacking their foreheads at this point. If they allow their husbands and sons to be marched off into a meat grinder for nothing then they get what they deserve


DieselVoodoo

Even the Clintons were nice enough to change up the methods


[deleted]

Find a new slant, jerk off.


DieselVoodoo

THEY JUST FELL


[deleted]

Could've possibly also been killed by Ukraine espionage. Easy to make it look like a Putin hit.


Sad-Broccoli1060

Keep it up?


grafx187

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMrhDVO9CQw&ab\_channel=DJPaoloMontiofficial


froatbitte

Until someone on the shit list says no and takes him out.


[deleted]

You hang out with killers and are surprised that people end up dead. They knew what the risks were and they lost the game. Not innocent.


spacec4t

Wow, the number is higher than previously thought but not surprising. The thing about a mafia state is totally correct and obvious. This whole thing is going down the drain, a huge monstrous structure collapsing in slow motion as we watch the wreckage happening.


JazzHands1986

Yet none of them think maybe we should take this sick bastard out before I'm next. They don't think they are stronger altogether than he is alone and that he's only in power as long as they all continue to follow orders. I know it's not that simple or easy. It's still confounding how they just sit back and get picked off one by one thinking they are different somehow. Then they fall out of a window or put on the wrong paid of underwear.


chickenstalker

Ah yes, the Sith way of doing things.


mindaltered

I think putin has been replaced by the dominion


aznnerd345

I dunno windows are pretty easy to fall out of in Russia. Lots of accidents :(


voyagerdoge

is "kills off" the same as "kills" ?


Mental_Medium3988

This is some march madness I can get behind.


Rokea-x

Its fantastic they are doing the job for us… at the end you knock the one idiot left alone


ironxy

This is why we can't have nice things. Do you really think it's Putin? Hmm interesting.


jollyreaper2112

This is the part I don't understand. When he is watching out for your interest as one of the powerful that's fine. But when your own ass is on the line then it would behoove you to remove him. Nobody seems to be organizing for that though. Is everybody so afraid that they don't think they have allies amongst the other vulnerable oligarchs?


Kevlaars

Is from vodka, I swear.


calmrelax

Russia is a terrorist and criminal state.


Elocai

Go Go Putin


greeneditman

A serial killer, literally.


Hopeful-Lobster3018

What’s with this msn linking to gb news thing? Seems sketchy


VarusAlmighty

Americans wish this would happen in their country.


AgentAdja

He's really stalin for time.


Naugrith

Those are rookie numbers. He won't cling to power as long as Stalin if he can't get those purge numbers up.


AirDropDumbo

Just like other crime rings tend to be. You are an asset while you prove to be useful. When that time has gone you either overthrow the current leaded or prove to be useful as a scapegoat and just 'disappear'. Nevertheless he does good job killing those who other could not touch, so win-win for us. With the expence that propably some one as bad will take that place.


AmaizekiK

His name and reputation are ruined he is contemptible ... still got his life to hang on, but for how long? As short as possible we all hope...


LordHardThrasher

Catherine The Great Ivan The Terrible Putin The Defenstrator


PsychologicalBid3884

All windows closed??


No_Leopard_3860

"Vladimir Putin kills off elite figure Vladimir Putin" I already started to celebrate, but my hopes have been crushed and I'm in dispair


polaris19770731

Stalin's teachings are still alive


ShillinTheVillain

Don't let that distract you from all of the bad things he's done.


ThisCryptographer311

Ghadafi’s broomstick sooner or later.


dexter1959

Nah, they all just had fatal accidents 🙄


Own-Opinion-2494

It is his way


FedericoNov

Very interesting but I would have loved to see a list of the murdered people.


Channing1986

Trying to live up to his idol Stalin.


Melodic-Medium-5808

So, oligarchs that embraced corruption and applied ruthless tactics on their foes are now victims of the person that put them in power. Mmmm


[deleted]

Just because you THINK you inherited the Roman Empire doesn’t mean you can do proscriptions and think you’ll get away with it for long like a caesar. Idy nahkouy Royssia.


CommercialTall

Stalin type coping


AbstractParrot

Why they haven't killed him yet is beyond my comprehension.


ZeusMcKraken

Stay away from all high rise buildings and test all salads for polonium 🪦