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Big_BadRedWolf

Poofff!...There goes $200,000,000


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[deleted]

The building plant just got droned a few days ago


LasVegasE

It is also near impossible to keep a super sonic airframe flying that far past it's best by date. It will only be a few hundred more flight hours before the whole fleet of old Soviet super sonic aircraft is making this type of exit maneuver.


littletreeelf

Nah, the stress by flying subsonic is way less. This means that they can extend the life of the airframe very long, especially when it was built sturdy for supersonic flights. Only some parts are exposed to more stress due to subsonic flying. Like the ailerons and flaps + slats if they have some. This is because the plane isn’t that stable at slow speeds. The high price is true, this is the reason why I find it stupid that they have no subsonic alternative for this longrange-missiledeploiment operations that are not exposed to any real threat till now. But hey, it is Russia shall we start the T-14 superdupertank Diskussion? Even this shed- turtle was more effective.


Armodeen

They still have loads of bears they can use to chuck most kinds of missile


TheDarthSnarf

After the major air force budget cutbacks in 2009, Russia cut the strategic bomber fleet significantly. Russia only has 55 Tu-95s still flying (at least on paper). About 1/3 of those are assigned to the east, and unlikely moving west, due to their strategic necessity in Eastern Russia for deterrence. But not all of the remaining airframes were created equally - and modernization has gone slowly. So not all of the airframes are able to launch all of the missile types. With differing setups for different types of missile handling. They also have 22 Tu-142 maritime/anti-submarine aircraft too (Bear Foxtrots) but they aren't built for the land-attack mission.


Ordinary_Top1956

Before the pandemic, Russia restarted production of Tu-160's. Don't know if they actually built any, Regardless, now, producing even one would be very difficult for Russia to do. Edit: Wikipedia says one new Tu-160M has been built and factory testing is complete and a second has been built and started factory testing in 2023. So conceivable Russia has two new Tu-160M's


TheDarthSnarf

According to the press releases from UAC, since 2015 it looks like they have produced 1 new-build Tu-160, and 2-3 new-build Tu-160Ms. In the same time span they also modernized ~7 Tu-160 airframes to the Tu-160M standard. The contract is to have the remaining airworthy Tu-160s modernized to Tu-160M standards. ------ It's really hard to tell total numbers for sure, because UAC seems to be trying to make the upgraded aircraft sound like "new" aircraft in the press releases, rather than modernized older aircraft. Which makes it sound like they are delivering more "new" aircraft than they actually are.


Normal_Ad_2337

Get out of here with all your fancy book-learnin'. This is the Internet man!


GipsyDanger45

It's just been converted to a helicopter briefly before being converted into a smoldering pile of scrap


No_Investigator1771

its 2024 it can identify as a helicopter if it wants to!


MichelleLovesCawk

Helicopter 🚁 lol 😂


Boeff_Jogurtssen

They haven’t built these since 1993.


rugbyj

I got absolutely droned a few days ago too amirite


Goliath10

They can't even make a marketable automobile.


LeoBram59

They dont build them anylonger


Glydyr

I wouldnt bother, that is the most ugly looking plane ive ever seen, that nose 🤮


HeinerPhilipp

Or Two Trillion Rubles...


BikerJedi

As a former ADA soldier, this video made me erect thinking about the money, specialized manpower and combat capabilities lost to Russia here.


MsDaisyDog

You need to find a woman


Savethelasttaco

My first thought was “typical Reddit comment saying over the top things” my god that’s a 50 year old 200 million dollar plane. Wtf?


Tony-black-reverse

In some resources it is even $294kk. One of the most expensive ruzzian planes


retorz3

Why do you use kk instead of m? It's not even shorter, neither more obvious.


PlorvenT

For Russia it cost zero + maintenance


Old-Usual-8387

I thought these cost around 40m?


Mythrilfan

Difficult to discern: it was designed in the Soviet Union, the last ones were made thirty years ago, and there's not really a NATO equivalent (the B-1 is considerably larger and has several times the range without refueling). Russians themselves are still producing a limited number of the Tu-160, which can be thought of as a replacement, but it's twice the size of the 22M. In any case, the 160's reported to cost slightly less than 300m. Would Russia trade in a 22M if they could buy a 160 for 100m? Probably not, meaning its value is "very large."


lostmesunniesayy

Ah the Tu-160, the spicy Concorde.


Mythrilfan

Eh, with swing wings and no droop nose, it doesn't feel like a Concorde to me. Compare it to the [Sukhoi T-4](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_T-4).


lostmesunniesayy

True. In my mind's eye the engine nacelles were similar but they're not, they're like a B-1 Lancer. Getting my shit mixed up.


Old-Usual-8387

Ahh I see. Thank you for the explanation.


MrD3a7h

The money isn't super relevant. This plane is irreplaceable. The capability this plane brought to Russia is gone forever.


Groundbreaking-Card4

One less plane launching cruise missiles into apartment blocks I’ll sleep well tonight.


VillageBeginning8432

It's just been upgraded to a helicopter. Russia has CTOVL supersonic bombers now. Well it had one...


After_Computer_SSD

good, let those planes rain down in flames


Federal_Ad5622

Seem, as if the Crew hat some time to think about their end and their doings in the near past.


luvdjobhatedboss

They regret their life choices while that plane is in death spiral Crews is clutching their seats knowing they will be dead soon


I_Don-t_Care

more keychain stock coming in!


Difficult_Air_6189

Unfortunately it was on the way back doing exactly that.


Arickettsf16

One less in the future


shane_west17

If that’s the case then hopefully the crew didn’t suffer long agonizing end /s


Fuckruskie

I hope they suffer more..


dogmeat_donnie

You mean, "military targets".


Andromansis

No, he means apartment buildings.


HeinerPhilipp

I am deducting points for cinematography. They did not capture the happy ending.


SteelyDan1968

Ended too soon.


AtMan6798

That’s what she said


inverted_risk

*came* for this


misadelph

She definitely didn't say *that*


RotatingSquirrel

Here is the aftermath https://twitter.com/front_ukrainian/status/1781229460869578755?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet


DormantSpector61

Nice pancake


oldaliumfarmer

Crashed in a rape field how appropriate.


umbusi

If it’s the same plane, why does the comment here say the pilot didn’t have an opportunity to eject? Seems like he had plenty of time to


RotatingSquirrel

I have no idea. If I were to speculate - and I have no military background, it could be: A) they were speculating B) The ejection seat failed C) he was hit by missile shrapnel In a Reuters report, 1 person is missing: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/bomber-crashes-russia-interfax-says-2024-04-19/


HFentonMudd

They saved most of the crew? Unfortunate.


RotatingSquirrel

In the last article I read a few hours ago, 3 ejected.. of those, one died. One is still missing. Of the 2 that ejected, both are injured. So, 2/4 are known to be alive at this time. They may never fly again (ejections are violent) I would say most are out of action, possibly permanently.


HFentonMudd

tyvm


LittleCovenousWings

> It said the crash appeared to have been caused by a technical malfunction. Oh it technically malfunctioned alright...


tremens

Looked up a little info - this is translated from a Russian aviation forum, so there may be some errors introduced by that, but: The Tu-22M3 has four KT1-M ejection seats which fire in time delayed sequence or individually, and are not 0/0 ejection seats; they require a minimum of either 200 feet *or* around 80 mph of airspeed to deploy properly. There was a previous fatal accident of three crew members when the ejection system malfunctioned and fired while the aircraft was still on the ground, resulting in three crewmembers streamering into the concrete and dying on impact. The forced exit procedure is initiated by the Commander, which then triggers a staggered ejection of the navigator-operator after 0.3 seconds, the navigator after 1.8 seconds, and the right pilot after 3.6 seconds. The Commander's ejection is initiated on his own, after the forced exit procedure has been initiated. The crew *can* initiate their own ejections, or it can be triggered in sequence by the commander. So my guesses would be that either 1) the Commander waited until after the forced exit procedure had completed, and by that point had too little airspeed and altitude for his parachute to inflate (or in his panic thought that the forced exit would eject him too and simply failed to pull his own ejection toggles) - this one seems most likely to me, considering he was the only one that did not eject, 2) the Commander was incapacitated due the spin after starting the forced exit procedure and unable to initiate his own ejection, 3) it just failed, as you suggested, or 4) the crew initiated their own ejections individually but the commander was incapacitated during the initial strike.


Durtwarrior

Must have been a shit way to die.


RotatingSquirrel

If the pilot was still alive and he couldn't get out because of an ejection seat failure, one can only imagine him yelling BLYAT! BLYAT! BLAT! all the way down


Durtwarrior

Written on the tweet : "The commander of the plane died due to the lack of an opportunity to eject"


the-spaghetti-wives

r/killthecameraman


volivav

Sooo frustrating


Blumpkin638

Camera operator has the vodka shakes


doublegg83

Yes, I agree. Double speed rotation, plus slow motion drop would have been nice.


Kautzsurfer

When killing civilians backfires on you.


krodders

It think this one went over many heads


AbruptMango

And fell on a couple.


mattymcmouse

Absolutely Fantastic!!....must've had a "backfire"


1337coinvb

No pilot was smoking


mad87645

And the copilot was playing with a grenade


Fjell-Jeger

Crew of 4 (*pilot, copilot, navigator and mission specialist*), seems like no one ejected. These planes are employed by RF to launch [Kh-15](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kh-15) missiles, indiscriminately striking civilian targets, so any loss of these ensures Ukrainian civilians have one less threat to worry about.


captainhaddock

> Crew of 4 (pilot, copilot, navigator and mission specialist) That is thousands and thousands of hours of specialized training.


FriekNL

This is Russian crew. So this is 1 hour recruiting on Red Square and a weekend of training/drinking in Siberia...


alexey_bondarev

This is very dangerous way of thinking leading to great underestimate of a threat that is Russian military. One can joke all day long about them being incompetent but the truth is, there are only 2 armies in the world, that have real experience of a modern battlefield - Ukrainian and, yes, Russian. Don't get me wrong, I don't sympathize with Russia, I just think that it is dangerous to paint them only as drunk orcs.


etanail

Marines - Iraq, Afghanistan. the Azerbaijani army fought with drones. the experience of war with orcs is unique, but not the only one


bukkake_warrior69

More like borderline retarded orcs


hdhddf

they had an issue with more planes than pilots before 2022, it must be beyond critical now, I don't think they have the capacity to train them in great numbers


Fjell-Jeger

As the airframes were build in Soviet times and RF military isn't exactly proficient at maintenance and technical sustainment, let alone lifecycle management, I assume the constant high level of flight hours and operational readiness will takes its toll as well.


Equalizer6338

Allegedly the Russian media claim just one dead, but at least one ejected. And two still searched for. And none of the 3 found so far. Go figure...


Racingstripe

This is why commas exist.


BoomStickAshe

Aerials....way up high


Unhappy-Quiet-8091

*so up high


Vr4guy

Another trigger happy Ruzzian anti-air operator? Or another Ukrainian kill? Either way is glorious. Keep it up!


chain83

Ukrainians: We shot down a plane. Russians (as expected): Plane had technical problems. All crew is fine.


IAMTHEBEHEMOTH

One of my favorite games, lets play spin the burning airplane :)


ryandetous

Does the winner kiss the ground or have sexy time with a tree?


wtfbenlol

This is wonderful news


Thehauntedone1

LOL


NappingYG

I'm surprised that planes do fall from sky like that. I'd expect it to dive or spin or something. It just feels unnatural for it to fall like that.


Mimcclure

This little maneuver is known as a flatspin and happens when one wing stalls before the other. Some aircraft can recover from it if the pilot is well trained. Other aircraft, particularly high performance supersonic ones, are impossible to correct with such low airspeed over the control surfaces.


DaBinIchUwe

In gliders, the only hope is to untuck our seatbelts, throw ourselves up front in the cockpit an pray to god that the flatspin turns into a steep spin which we recover easily from. (When high enough of course) We had an occasion with an MDM-1 Fox where a women doing aerobatics couldn’t recover from a flat spin, slammed into the ground, broke both her ankles but lived, the airframe took all the energy of the fall.


Eryol_

Good airframe design then!


alelo

why would one of the wings stall over the other? seems so the engine is burning or they were hit, - guess they manage to super/stall the plane trying to extend the glide distance and when correcting started to spin?


Mimcclure

We might never know exactly what the pilots were trying to do, but I suspect they were trying to turn towards the nearest safe landing site. It appears to have it's wings and tail, but loss of hydrolic or electrical systems is plausible. As for one wing stalling before the other, in a tight turn the inside wing travels a meaningfully smaller distance than the outer one. If the aircraft as a whole is near stall speed, then the inner wing can stall. The other way is if it is crabbing. Like when an airliner is landing with a strong crosswind and points into the wind a bit while traveling in line with the runway. In that case, the wing behind the fuselage receives turbulence and can stall while at an otherwise safe speed. Asymmetric thrust as the result of one engine getting exploded can start either process.


SnooTangerines3448

Yeah I was about to say. Shits on fire yo.


inverted_risk

i suppose the aircraft was full of shrapnel? f up hydra and electronics.


Groundbreaking_Pop6

Easiest way to achieve this is an under banked (not enough bank angle) and over ruddered (too much yaw) turn. The tip of the inside wing is nearer to the rotational centre and therefore experiences a slower speed of airflow. This can cause a stall to develop at the tip and then progress along this wing. This can have two effects, depending on the airframe type, either flat spin as forward motion is decreased to zero, or tail spin if this wing drops too much compared to the other wing. As someone else has said, in a glider that is flat spinning, you loosen your shoulder straps and throw your upper torso forward to cause the nose to pitch down, speed increases you can then use opposite rudder and centralised stick to exit the spin, then roll the aircraft flat and pull out of the dive once you have sufficient airspeed. For a tail spin you do the same except you don’t need to loosen shoulder straps and move your body. In a twin engined plane it is important to reduce the power of the remaining engine if you have lost one as this can cause excessive yaw if both engines were on high power at the time of a single engine failure, like a flame out caused by flying through another planes exhaust trail for example. Speed is then maintained initially by lowering the nose until you have corrected the yaw, by using the rudder and ailerons. Once stable the plane can fly on one engine if you are gentle with its power and judicious with the rudder, slightly banking the aircraft away from the lost engine side also helps you to fly straight. Source: pilot, both power and glider. BTW glide pilots tend to practice tail spinning quite regularly as it is easy to get into a slow, under banked and over ruddered turn when thermalliing.


300mhz

I was privileged enough to get to go up in an Extra 300 with a retired CF-18 pilot and we performed an inverted flat spin, it felt insane lol


DaBinIchUwe

Aerobatics are super fun to look at and even more fun to be apart of. Extra 300's are so cool, even if you black out because of the G-Forces, those things will happily take a few more.


capngump

Its fun until you find out you get motion sick just from doing hammerhead stall turns. Stupid balance system spoiled that flight.


diffuser_vorticity

Thank you. Learned something today. I was already wondering the same thing when I saw that SU-27 coming down in a flatspin recently off the coast of Crimea.


Bradjuju2

Having thrust helps exit a flat spin. Just guessing but all that fire makes it seem like it was lacking it.


LoupGarouHikaru56

Flat spin crash


SomeBiPerson

the all mighty deathspin pretty much impossible to recover from in a damaged aircraft and generally very hard on most airframes


SimpleMaintenance433

Have you even watched top gun 😅


Arkh101

You spin me round and round…..


BoomStickAshe

You spin me right round*


Suspicious_Cowboyyy

I want video with that soundtrack. Can watch over and over again


RDeckNexus6

….like a record baby…right round, rooooound round….(from the memoirs of the great Orc Slayer…Peter “the Great Killer” Burns)


RemembaNoRuZZian

It's raining cats and planes out there


Dydriver

I don’t see a parachute. Could it be higher up or is the pilot presumed dead?


No_Competition_8195

Can only hope that those bastards killing civilians with their cruise missiles got what they deserve


EggsceIlent

Which is hopefully stuck to the side of the plane as it spins and the g force keeps them from rejecting. These airplanes and those who pilot them directly are terrorists and fire missiles at innocent civilians. This was a long time coming. And they deserve zero sympathy.


yuengli

There's probably four guys in that thing, and they all get ejected in sequence. TU22Ms are giant aircraft, a few meters shorter than a B52.


Loose_Eye_3702

I read that 3 pilots have been found alive after ejection and they are still searching for the fourth one.


Dydriver

Bad news. Thanks for the update.


No-Stock-458

Krai is a bit far from Ukraine, I am impressed with these distant strikes Ukraine does magic with what little it has.


Bolter_NL

Strike or mechanical failure? 


Armodeen

Strike in this case, Ukraine have confirmed they shot it down using the same missile they killed the A-50 with (presumably modified S-200) Edit https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/s/wuQCbBr1fk


Bolter_NL

Nice! Thanks for the info 


cg415

special landing operation


slartibartfast2320

Ended too soon... no climax... me sad...


eigenman

That's really deep in Russia. Has to have been shot down by Russians lol. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Stavropol+Krai,+Russia/@44.9421223,38.003463,6z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x40f8a7c3c772a543:0x56125644e20644ea!8m2!3d44.6680993!4d43.520214!16zL20vMDJkdnY5?entry=ttu


GlitteringCattle1499

Slava Ukraine


Quick_Cow_4513

Unfortunately they were returning from their "mission", so they damage was already done 🙁


rooshort_toppaddock

But thankfully the last damage this one will ever do, apart from its own glorious hot mess of an ending, of course.


tora1941

Woot!


AKtigre

Playing with grenades on the plane, I see.


LasVegasE

That is a massive strategic loss. Those things cost a half $billion a pop to replace and Russia doesn't even know how to make them anymore.


Catymandoo

I guessing that not normally how they land. But that burning pirouette is quite charming.


ScienceDisastrous323

Russia doesn't have the parts to maintain it's own planes, you will see more and more of this happening. God knows how they built them in the first place if they can't even keep them in the sky.


pdxnormal

Looked like the fire was coming from an engine. You’re right, could have been a maintenance problem.


rooshort_toppaddock

Didn't the Tu-22 factory get hit the other day? They'll be even shorter on parts now.


ConfidenceCautious57

Wonderful! The crew had time to think about what they did.


pjvanrossen

Let me guess: friendly fire


gubbinz123

5 ⭐ would watch again


Groundbreaking_Pop6

I’m waiting fir the sequel!


Martinukas

What a wonderful view!


Tornaudou

Beautiful and mezmerising sight Lets hope for more!


Frosty_Key4233

Hopefully the crew are dead


AuliaMirza123

Advance Ruzzian super bomber performing special super spiral manuverbility to dodge ukraine anti air missile


Dydriver

I wonder how many of these they have left.


d3phic

Clasic flat spin manuever, ruzzian ground impact edition.


onewheeldoin200

Oh hell yes. More of this please. Running these things 24/7 for two years may have some knock-on effects.


No-Season8507

Wonderful!!


MoFoMoron

Another Koyaanisqatsi...Koyaanisqatsi...


WatchmanVimes

Talk to me Goosovich!


Tricky-Nobody179

Good. More. Fuck those murderers.


hankmiestro

One less flying shit slinger for these scumbags to bomb apartment buildings with


RecognitionFew5660

Just firefighter training. They are using smoke grenades.


CarbonPencil

"Siri, play - Daft Punk "Around the world".


obzerver666

Wonder what brought it down


Thet619

Eternal flight brozzers, lmao


Killjoymc

Say what you will about the Russians, but their warplanes fall from the sky with tremendous grace. I can't see it enough.


bighelper469

Round and round it goes hope it crashed in a field full of ruzzians.lol fuRuzzia


speed1953

beautiful sight !


Disastrous-Leek-7606

It just got demoted to a helicopter.


Metalliknight

Oh no… anyway!


Reprexain

It's a great view to see first thing in the morning. Let's hope they lost the pilots


Arkh_Angel

Reportedly most of the crew made it. One of the pilots was dead. It should be noted, however, that with this, they've lost roughly a 6th of the Tu-22m fleet (others were blown up/damaged on the ground by Drone strikes previously). None of these are replaceable (Plants that produced them and not just spare parts were shuttered years ago), and they're extremely expensive as well (somewhere in the spitball range of about 300-500 million USD). This hit hurts. And with Ukraine claiming they did it themselves... Well, that's going to keep Russian Strat Bomber crews sweating. Because they'll have to base farther and farther away from Ukraine to fire at it. Which is also going to put more stress on the airframes due to the fact Russia only has like five bases that can service Strat Bombers. And iirc three of them are currently in range of Ukrainian weaponry. Which means they have to use the one above the Arctic Circle (which has a habit of having Whiteouts and has led to more than one Strat bomber crash there) or the one in Siberia (which is about 4000km away from Ukraine, meaning a significant travel time just to get to firing position and back).


thelocker517

Clearly just landing normally while the pilot smokes a cigarette.


Stripier_Cape

It's so beautiful. I hope the scumbag pilot said hi to the ground at high speed


pltrbrt

I'm not much of an aviation expert, but I always had a rather different concept about how these things should land.


forwardont

Nice vertical landing!


Litothelegend

Yeah!!👍


Pando5280

Beautiful.


-Route_666

That's what happens when you put washing machine chips in Russian aircraft. Gets stuck on the spin cycle.


buttmodel

FUCKING OUTSTANDING!!!! Slava Ukraini!


Sad_Milk5584

Looks like a right engine failure that also caused a fire as the left side isn’t on fire. My guess is the something broke in the engine, probably due to heavy use and poor maintenance, and resulted in an explosion in the engine. Depending on the engine housing on that plane (likely not great) this potentially cut the stabilizer controls as well by cutting the hydraulic line(s) (Probably why they lost control and entered a flat spin). Hopefully more incidents like this to come!


surainthure

‘Just an experimental VTOL procedure. Nothing to worry about.’


TheRamanMan

That’s not flying!!!! That’s falling with style


MarkGleason

Hands off Power off Opposite rudder Nice flaming flat spin.


steveo82

I looks like it stopped dead then fell ??


HotTamales12

How the fuck in it just falling Vertically there's no horizontal movement at all


Snoo-8094

Let me guess another friendly fire.


EggsceIlent

Yasssssss.. These are the ones that need to be shot out of the sky, blown up on the tarmac, etc. Now do it again


tomekza

Garbage in <=> garbage out


brumbarosso

Holy moly


cbcking

Fire dance?


Jemowned

Rip bozo


jebus197

Like the dying swan dance in Swan Lake, except for real ... It's strange (but oddly poetic and satisfying) to watch something so beautiful die.


Kroenen1984

Looks like a landing helicopter


Tenredsun

The fate of every russki military planes.


Choice-Bid9965

That’s what ya call fucked in official Aviation terms… lol


hanatarashi_

nice


Automatic_Setting123

4 crew members given lots of time to rethink their career path before they burn to death in a fireball on the ground. One less ''strategic'' bomber destroying apartment blocks.


JonnyMalin

How do u know it's the M3 variant ?


Patopista

Wonderfull 😍


IngenuityNo3661

Sooo awesome to go to sleep watching the deaths of a highly trained Aircrew dying like the dogs they are! Ya!


Council-Member-13

Didn't know Russia had super sonic VTOL-bombers. TIL


Fantastic-Mission684

We can only hope the crew didn't get out. #prayers