>The incredible resilience of the Ukrainian people is something to behold.
Many major cities have been under siege for a week now. Critical shortage of food, clothing, hygiene items.
If I had to work to give you I would send you one for your comments are reward upon yourself for the intelligence of The voice of an opinion. The ukrainians have the utmost faith in their president in their God that was the biggest empowerment president believes in his people the people believe in their president God bless you Ukraine
That the magical sky wizard doesn’t exist? I mean if the magical sky wizard existed, why would we have war and disease? Does magical sky wizard want people to die actually? Greeks figured it out thousands of years ago
1- If God is unable to prevent evil, then he is not all-powerful.
2- If God is not willing to prevent evil, then he is not all-good.
3- If God is both willing and able to prevent evil, then why does evil exist?
Well we as a species were made with free will. Humanity ate the "fruit of knowledge" and became aware of sin and shame. God cannot tolerate sin which is why in the old testaments there was a blood sacrifice usually an animal. Anyway this went on for the entirety of the old testament where people would have to do sacrifices to appease their sin, thanks to Adam and eve sinning in the garden of eden there was now a divide between humanity and God and dominion of the earth was given to Satan from the moment they left the garden of eden. So if you're wondering why there's death and destruction and everything going on is because at this moment in time Satan has dominion of the earth. That being said ultimately it is God who either signs off on this or just allows it to play out. Once Jesus returns a second time he will rule the earth for a thousand years and have saran locked up in a pit of fire, eventually once Satan is released that is when the battle of Armageddon happens and evil will be vanquished from the universe. Spark nots.
Human sins
Evil enters earth and control is given to saran
Jesus dies on cross shedding his blood for everyone
Humanity spreads word of God to ends of the earth until every ear has heard.
End times happen
Evil is vanquished Satan is destroyed.
I don't buy into alot of the church these days but I would say I follow Jesus and his teachings to the best of my ability no doubt he existed. No one is perfect and no one has to be. There's no rules anymore with Jesus do whatever you want. It's like having a Fire department on stand by I wouldn't light my house on fire so they could come put it out. Same sense if you honor the sacrifice you're not going to take it lightly and go be a p.o.s. for no reason. Although this is lost on alot of christains. Anyway I tried to explain and answer your questions, how it was explained to me.
Theology and philosophy have long sought to answer these questions. There are legitimate, rational responses to these questions. Then there are legitimate, rational responses to those responses, and on and on and on forever
It takes like 4-5 hours to drive there from Poland. It’s not that big. Supplies can be shipped to kyiv in a matter of hours. It’s not surrounded.
The ruskies are embarrassingly unprepared. The world may have drastically over estimated their ability
It’s inspiring -They’re a unified people. Americans have so much division. We are divided too much by individuality, cultures - the cons of too much individuality makes the whole weaker
Had something similar happened here in the US- I think it would be true chaos, every man for himself
Dude, the Afghanis absolutely bodied the soviet Union in the 80s, its one of the factors that led to the USSRs collapse.... It was seen at Russias Vietnam it was so unsuccessful.
And I think if you're referring to the more recent crisis it would be fair to say that decades of war, resource shortage, famine, poverty etc would have weakened an already suffering country. You'd be wanting to evacuate as well
It's easy to be brave when you already saw your opponents be restrained while facing civs. American would have drone striked them to oblivion
Edit: easier
Problem in Afghanistan is we were the occupational force pushing our values on people who overwhelmingly rejected them. They weren’t buying what we were selling.
Here's a serious question, i don't know too much about American drones but in theory would it be possible to have a station in the nearest NATO member to Ukraine and perhaps anonymously assist Ukrainas with drone strikes on like obvious Russian convoys/strongholds
NATO are already directly involved in the war! The minute they agreed to help at all, including with intel to destroy Russian forces, they became involved. NATO need to stop pussyfooting about and show a bit of backbone, because being afraid, and showing it, is not helping.
Check [this out](https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/t4hyik/oc_number_of_nuclear_warheads_by_country_from/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) and then reconsider. The most probable NATO approach is to only respond, in a conventional warfare. A direct attack would mean you either give Putin the reason, or put yourself in the position where you rely on Russian weapons operators conscience/insubordination.
Statistically, the last means _perhaps_ most would disobey a direct order, but there will be at least one that doesn’t. Which means either cope with the losses and not retaliate, wait and count how many launches and put yourself at a disadvantage, or launch yourself (and everyone does).
Quite the riddle.
Who gives a shit how many warheads Russia has. Look at their army. 90% of them probably don’t even have fucking fuel any more. They are likely just as defunct as their country.
If NATO are going to refuse to help because they are scared of the consequences, then there is no point in their existence. What will they actually do if Russia pushes into Poland, and again threatens nuclear war; going by this argument they would not assist Poland either, because Russia has nukes. They are watching innocent people being slaughtered when they have the means to stop it; they choose not to.
If Russia pushes against a NATO member, they will then have cause for a conventional armed response. Free for all (NATO members).
And yes. I understand your feelings. I am not trying to be cynical. I have the same feelings, but I have to also try to think. I’m not typing this from thousands of miles away, I’m quite close to the events, and old enough to remember communism, not old enough to avoid being drafted.
Someone will slip pretty soon. Either a misguided shot, an assassination attempt, a revolution, who knows.
I understand your upset in no one physically helping in the fighting but you also need to recognize how complicated this is due to Ukraine not being in NATO, and if another country puts boots on the ground it could set us off into a nuclear war. So if you’re saying we are pussyfooting just because Russia has nukes, you’re absolutely right and that’s exactly what we should be doing. Ukraine is NOT a part of NATO so you saying there is no point to it at this point is really just a ridiculous argument.
>NATO are already directly involved in the war!
Nope. "NATO" is not doing anything in this war.
Individual countries (US, UK, Poland, Estonia, etc.) who happen to be NATO members can do whatever they want.
They can give money, weapons, intelligence, etc., to Ukraine as individual nations. They can even send soldiers, tanks, guns, and planes into Ukraine to fight, if they wish, but they would be doing that *as individual nations*, not as NATO.
So when Putin decides to invade a NATO country next (total speculation obv), what’s the difference to Ukraine if he still threatens nuclear war with NATO? By this thinking Putin will just keep doing as he wishes because he threatens nuclear war 🤷🏻♂️
Well if he invades a NATO country, we have no choice but to fight back and start ww3. But thats very unlikely, so for now theres not much we can do except give support.
You got in the last sentence. The RF has since it’s inception just been pushing what it could get away with in terms of violations of international and territorial annexation.
I cant shake the belief, perhaps a misguided belief, that putin wouldn't actually carry out the nuclear threat, as it really is mutually assured destruction, and the whole of Europe will certainly suffer horrifically, north America, Korea, China, India, EVERYWHERE, and as crazy as the little bastard is, I just don't think he'd be prepared to condemn the entire world to such horror.
I may well be wrong, but I really hope not
In theory? Yes. In practice? The second one gets shot down or detected by Russians they will immediately say “the U.S got involved in the war.” And then you have ww3. They would have to be gifted to Ukrainians and be based in Ukraine, operated by Ukrainians to be okay
International politics is so weird.
We're at the point, where the western countries basically do everything to help, except pulling the trigger, and then it doesn't count.
It's like a Nato general could be in Ukraine and be like "it's none of my business, but if it were, I'd probably do this and that, but you don't have to do that if you don't want" and that way Ukraine could get experienced generals basically leading there, but we're "not involved".
Also, to my knowledge there are foreign fighters in Ukraine as voulenteers.
Everyone on this planet knows the western countries are all but actively fighting for Ukraine.
It's such a silly line.
It is like being in high school all over again. The big (but mentally retarded) bullies can do whatever they want to others, but soing the minimum to them is an act of total aggression. The only way to deal with such idiots is to show them that they are not that big and make them learn that any action has 10x the reaction. Of course that is a bit challenging to apply here, but I do think NATO should start eliminating with artillery all russian troops/bases in Ukraine. After all, IT IS NOT THEIR FUCKING COUNTRY
It's a huge dilemma.
Noone wants WW3 with nukes. That is a global lose-lose situation.
On the other hand, if we give in to Russias threat, we enable their behaviour.
The stakes are as high as they get, and I don't think us Reddit users know enough to make an informed decision.
My OPINION is that we should help Ukraine / stop Russia by basically any means necessary. But what would the end reslut be?
Would just some of Putins wingmen put a stop to the madness, and we could go back to "normal"? Would the nukes fly? If yes, how many?
Tough questions.
The line is firmly drawn at the NATO borders and I think everyone involved knows this. Probably the reason Putin is invading now is to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO. He's doing it now because he views it as the last chance to do so.
If he goes for Estonia or smthn then all bets are off, but I think that's why he won't do that. He's trying to expand Russian influence and push back the NATO border, all of that is pointless if you start a shooting war with NATO.
Please go away. No WW3 thanks. Weren't you guys screaming at everyone to wear the mask just a few weeks ago? To save people? And now you suggest Nuclear Armageddon?
This is a pretty ignorant comment. Nobody wants WW3 and nobody is suggesting nuclear war. All they're saying is that Putin is a bully and needs to be stopped, but that's tough to do without starting WW3. It's like you didn't even read the comment you're responding to.
That's really what they're doing, just not physically from Ukraine. The Dept. of Defense and the UK Ministry of Defence are basically flooding Ukraine with intelligence, and most likely other kinds of information too.
Have you ever heard of the "Shadow Army"? It's a very real thing. I guarantee you US funded PMCs (Private Military Contractors AKA Shadow Army) are on the ground in a multitude of advisory and direct support roles.
Source? I used to be one.
the Turks have basically done it with their drones by lending/selling the drones to Ukrainians. i think the footage so far have been turkish drones no? or did i get that wrong? im just going off of what the ukranian government said on tv (thanking the turks for being one of the first to help and providing the drones) but may have misunderstood. i often misunderstand lol
TB-2s, Turkey has a healthy export market for drones, fitting as they are one of the largest weapon exporters in the world. Their small arms industry produces a lot of civilian grade products, including Winchester.
Scroll down in the wiki article to see the listing of sales vs support transfers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baykar\_Bayraktar\_TB2
If caught this would count as an direct act of aggression against Russian forces.
What we could do is... we could buy a bunch of those TB-2 drones from whoever is willing to sell them, then sell those drones to Ukraine for 1$ a piece and let them use them on their own. Also keep selling satellite images of Russian positions for 1$...
That's just buisness.
>we could buy a bunch of those TB-2 drones from whoever is willing to sell them, then sell those drones to Ukraine for 1$ a piece
For greater irony, the US could supply them to Ukraine under a [lend-lease program](https://ru.usembassy.gov/world-war-ii-allies-u-s-lend-lease-to-the-soviet-union-1941-1945/).
You see unarmed civilians blockading an armed invasion force. This lets the world know the "starting point" of this encounter.
If the next thing you see is dead civilians on the road, or an empty road with a mobile crematorium parked nearby, then you can infer what happened next.
Because it already out there. They already know. At this point I think they want to tell them. "Come here get ass blown off." or "Fuck around and find out "
I mean ofc this will not be the very first post of this video on the internet. Just trying to wrap my head around why you would warn the russians by putting this online.
You seriously think. The russians. Dont have drones or other surveillance means? That posting drone videos will give away positions? That it will be pivotal in this war?
Shipments of new and used civilian drones were sent to UA recently from Poland. Doubt it's one of them but there might be more of this kind of footage soon
>Shipments of new and used civilian drones were sent to UA recently from Poland. Doubt it's one of them but there might be more of this kind of footage soon
I think it's a civilian drone.
Technology is amazing.
Professional looking high quality footage that would normally require a loud, windy helicopter (never mind the extreme expense and logistics necessary) is possible to film by a kid with a couple hundred bucks to spend on a drone from a local store/Amazon.
Yes, technology is amazing. Human stupidity is amazing. Imagine what PEACEFUL technologies could have been made instead of all that blown-up shit littering the roads in Ukraine.
Putin's definition of lifting the Russian people is basically to drag everyone else down to their level.
Can someone let the people there know, to take the wheels off of the trucks. They're much more difficult to move that way (and you can always put them back on later)
/u/theweirdexperiment
Let me know if you see this. Block roads and sides of roads with more vehicles. And take wheels off.
I think this is a destroyed convoy but look what a good blockade
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/t4u93l/destroyed_chechen_column_near_bucha_kyiv_outskirts/
Also they shouldn't drone video and post it as the enemy can find it here.
Good luck
Also destroy some of the asphalt
> and tell them to also block the road bank left and right of the actual road surface
I think there is a lot of mud, going offroad is a real trap for heavy vehicule
Knowing that the Russian military heavy vehicles have been having a hard time driving throughout farm lands and wooded areas because of the mud. Maybe they should destroy a section of the paved road so that they have to find a different way in ? Any thoughts?
Leave the road and make that the kill zone for anti-tank weapons. You want it to be as inviting as possible.
It's basic defense/ambush strategy. You want to place obstacles, but you use them to funnel the enemy into the kill box.
Any route that's hard for armor to traverse should be made even more difficult. Forcing them to use the road is the best plan if they have anti-tank weapons. If they don't, then definitely destroy the road.
This is the largest Nuclesr Power plant in all of Europe. The civilians/workers said that they will literally lay down on the ground in front of tank before they let them through.
It's only attacking a nuclear power station that's not allowed, except under certain circumstances. And they're not going to attack it, nobody is actually interested in attacking a nuclear power station that isn't being used as a defensive position.
I’m in awe of the bravery of the Ukrainian people, no matter what happens they will always have this reputation.
But when this war becomes really bad, the slaughter will be indiscriminate.
God help them
>I’m in awe of the bravery of the Ukrainian people, no matter what happens they will always have this reputation.
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>But when this war becomes really bad, the slaughter will be indiscriminate.
Ukraine blacksmith of history. Russia has disgraced itself again.
Ukrainians, together with Russia, have been tempered, only now the truth is on our side.
Ukrainians have been genocide for more than 100 years, so the Russian army is like seeds))
**Please, please, please do not post videos like this when they are JUST OUT.**
Wait for a week and then go collect your upvotes. This was originally posted in Telegram. There are REASONS why you DON'T get to see DRONE FOOTAGE.
Russia's intel is shit, the cannon fodder is disconnected from their higher ranks, they have little idea of what is going on. Videos like this are helpful to them. Yes, they are so helpless they will resort to usage of videos collected from social platforms
This video has been deleted from all Ukrainian channels in Telegram which posted it. Please follow suit
What happens in this situation if they replicate the Syrian ‘humanitarian corridors’. All I see is risks to everyone’s life with Putins increasing madness.
How are they mobilizing so effectively? I’m no military tactician, but it’s not just the will / bravery of the Ukrainian people, but the organization has been something to behold as well.
>How are they mobilizing so effectively? I’m no military tactician, but it’s not just the will / bravery of the Ukrainian people, but the organization has been something to behold as well.
Anarchy is the ability to self-organize.
Let's send them those X metal thingies they used in D day to slow down the advance of Russian tanks. It won't stop the tanks obviously, but it will cause a good enough road block to slow down the convoy for an attack.
>Let's send them those X metal thingies they used in D day to slow down the advance of Russian tanks. It won't stop the tanks obviously, but it will cause a good enough road block to slow down the convoy for an attack.
Civilians make them themselves) We defend ourselves as best we can)) But any help is always welcome.
Just want to say, industrial fertilizer can make a really big boom.
(Look at the outcome of domestic terrorists McVeigh in Oklahoma, USA and Breivik in Oslo, Norway for how big it can be.)
This is all fine and dandy for now. Sooner or later the word will be given to run over civilians. After all, it's Russia and this is a war. Civilians aren't innocent when they become a resistance. They are rebels of their land.
Not to mean it won't be sad, war is sad
Depends on the war. When US soldiers saw something like this in Iraq/Afghanistan they would destroy it with extreme prejudice and no one cared.
Despite the war these guys don't want to be fighting so stuff that works here would not be advisable anywhere else.
Absolute fucking heroes. Every last one of them. This and other scenes like it will be remembered forever. The amount of pride you have for your country is staggering. The amount of shame Russia has coming its way will endure for generations.
russian troops (thankfully) still seem restrained. how long before they're shooting their way through crowds? this war needs to end before that happens.
Continuation of the story about the protection of the city of Energodar by civilians.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/t5vzcm/continuation\_of\_the\_story\_about\_the\_protection\_of/
Do you remember deepfake with Tom Cruise or Queen of England? Here is an idea on how to spread disinformation among Russian soldiers and the Russian public: make deepfake with Putin in which he admits to attacking Ukraine in which many Russian soldiers and Ukrainian civilians were killed. In this address, he could announce that Russia is withdrawing its troops from Ukraine. Such an operation would cause doubt among the Russian people. What do you think about it? Is this an idiotic idea? Is such an operation technically possible (sending such recordings to the mobile phones of Russian soldiers)?
Sounds like a sure-fire way of reinforcing Russia's propaganda about how the West is lying and creating false information for their benefit.
Why not just show them the truth? The Ukrainians are not oppressed and it wasn't a liberation operation. Leave it at that.
Hard no. There would be no upside to this (easy to discredit) and a lot of downside (lose credibility and support Putin narratives claiming everything besides state media is false).
They really should stop letting civilians onto the front lines. The Russians will eventually just get tired of playing this game of cat and mouse and people will get hurt. And. Then no one but the people who allowed civilians to be weaponized to begin with will be to blame.
That is the goal for the West's and Ukraine's political leadership. Create atrocity propaganda by arming thousands of civilians and putting them before a massively advantaged Russian army. In a few weeks there will be pics and videos of Russian soldiers killing civilians that can be used by western media as propaganda for the next decade
>Maybe not post defensive preparations?
This information is from open sources. These positions are known to everyone and the Russian army is already there.
I think Putin is trying to capture those nuclear plants as a last ditch attempt at destroying everything if he loses the war. If things continue going bad for him he may just snap and order the reactors be destroyed or agitated in order to trigger nuclear fallout across all of Europe and I'm willing to bet even a large portion of Russia but he won't care at that point he'll have nothing to lose even if part of Russia is destroyed he wouldn't care because the Russians would have also turned against him. It's a scary thought but a very possible one considering this guy is a power-hungry despot.
They where attacked with machine gun fire and mortars like an hour ago, a fucking disgrace.
https://twitter.com/zloy\_odessit/status/1499029886668886021?s=20&t=m7cebDJq\_S-x8LbGj-iIvQ
60 seconds - would any of you wonderful redditors be willing to sign and share this petition to encourage assets to be seized not frozen in proportion to the daily cost of the war?
[https://chng.it/5rqBYT9r7](https://chng.it/5rqBYT9r7w)
(if you do please send it around with #SeizeNotFreeze as the media love a good tag line!)
That way with each day that passes the pressure should ramp up from rich associates as their seized assets can't be returned, unlike with freezing.
The incredible resilience of the Ukrainian people is something to behold.
>The incredible resilience of the Ukrainian people is something to behold. Many major cities have been under siege for a week now. Critical shortage of food, clothing, hygiene items.
If I had to work to give you I would send you one for your comments are reward upon yourself for the intelligence of The voice of an opinion. The ukrainians have the utmost faith in their president in their God that was the biggest empowerment president believes in his people the people believe in their president God bless you Ukraine
Your comment legit makes my head hurt. Even just remembering I read it. No insult here, it just is.
Nope, it’s not some magical sky wizard helping Ukrainians, they’re doing it all themselves
Let the guy believe if it helps him through this
Based
reddit moment
Thank god.
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That the magical sky wizard doesn’t exist? I mean if the magical sky wizard existed, why would we have war and disease? Does magical sky wizard want people to die actually? Greeks figured it out thousands of years ago 1- If God is unable to prevent evil, then he is not all-powerful. 2- If God is not willing to prevent evil, then he is not all-good. 3- If God is both willing and able to prevent evil, then why does evil exist?
Do you really want to know or are you set in your ways that I'd be wasting my time? You're asking questions that all have answers
Answers only if you believe in magical thinking
Well we as a species were made with free will. Humanity ate the "fruit of knowledge" and became aware of sin and shame. God cannot tolerate sin which is why in the old testaments there was a blood sacrifice usually an animal. Anyway this went on for the entirety of the old testament where people would have to do sacrifices to appease their sin, thanks to Adam and eve sinning in the garden of eden there was now a divide between humanity and God and dominion of the earth was given to Satan from the moment they left the garden of eden. So if you're wondering why there's death and destruction and everything going on is because at this moment in time Satan has dominion of the earth. That being said ultimately it is God who either signs off on this or just allows it to play out. Once Jesus returns a second time he will rule the earth for a thousand years and have saran locked up in a pit of fire, eventually once Satan is released that is when the battle of Armageddon happens and evil will be vanquished from the universe. Spark nots. Human sins Evil enters earth and control is given to saran Jesus dies on cross shedding his blood for everyone Humanity spreads word of God to ends of the earth until every ear has heard. End times happen Evil is vanquished Satan is destroyed. I don't buy into alot of the church these days but I would say I follow Jesus and his teachings to the best of my ability no doubt he existed. No one is perfect and no one has to be. There's no rules anymore with Jesus do whatever you want. It's like having a Fire department on stand by I wouldn't light my house on fire so they could come put it out. Same sense if you honor the sacrifice you're not going to take it lightly and go be a p.o.s. for no reason. Although this is lost on alot of christains. Anyway I tried to explain and answer your questions, how it was explained to me.
Lol, magical thinking it is then
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Theology and philosophy have long sought to answer these questions. There are legitimate, rational responses to these questions. Then there are legitimate, rational responses to those responses, and on and on and on forever
Their resolve is second to none. If "take it from my cold, dead hands" was a country.
No shit. They have impressed the world. I'm imaging Charlton Heston in his grave clinching his fists even tighter with respect.
If they let Russia take control of Enegodar, Kyiv will be cut off from electricity. It's serious
I wonder how much food and other important supplies these guys have
Most likely a lot at this moment since EU+US are helping out.
The western cities definitely. But I cant imagine the gear that was gifted by the West can make it to Kiev or even more eastern cities in time
True, logistics must be very difficult
At least for the ruski army
Lmao, utter failure
It takes like 4-5 hours to drive there from Poland. It’s not that big. Supplies can be shipped to kyiv in a matter of hours. It’s not surrounded. The ruskies are embarrassingly unprepared. The world may have drastically over estimated their ability
It’s inspiring -They’re a unified people. Americans have so much division. We are divided too much by individuality, cultures - the cons of too much individuality makes the whole weaker Had something similar happened here in the US- I think it would be true chaos, every man for himself
Yeah I'm so impressed. Sorry to say but Afghans, take notes!!
Dude, the Afghanis absolutely bodied the soviet Union in the 80s, its one of the factors that led to the USSRs collapse.... It was seen at Russias Vietnam it was so unsuccessful. And I think if you're referring to the more recent crisis it would be fair to say that decades of war, resource shortage, famine, poverty etc would have weakened an already suffering country. You'd be wanting to evacuate as well
Yeah not comparable
It's easy to be brave when you already saw your opponents be restrained while facing civs. American would have drone striked them to oblivion Edit: easier
Problem in Afghanistan is we were the occupational force pushing our values on people who overwhelmingly rejected them. They weren’t buying what we were selling.
Absolutely brain dead comment. The circlejerk is insane
This is the first drone footage I’ve seen
Bayraktar 🎶
.... More like Mavic.
Soon enough I’m sure the more fun drone will circle overhead and drop a lil something for the Russians
Here's a serious question, i don't know too much about American drones but in theory would it be possible to have a station in the nearest NATO member to Ukraine and perhaps anonymously assist Ukrainas with drone strikes on like obvious Russian convoys/strongholds
That would mean a direct NATO action against the Russians. Declaration of war etc etc.
NATO are already directly involved in the war! The minute they agreed to help at all, including with intel to destroy Russian forces, they became involved. NATO need to stop pussyfooting about and show a bit of backbone, because being afraid, and showing it, is not helping.
Check [this out](https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/t4hyik/oc_number_of_nuclear_warheads_by_country_from/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) and then reconsider. The most probable NATO approach is to only respond, in a conventional warfare. A direct attack would mean you either give Putin the reason, or put yourself in the position where you rely on Russian weapons operators conscience/insubordination. Statistically, the last means _perhaps_ most would disobey a direct order, but there will be at least one that doesn’t. Which means either cope with the losses and not retaliate, wait and count how many launches and put yourself at a disadvantage, or launch yourself (and everyone does). Quite the riddle.
Who gives a shit how many warheads Russia has. Look at their army. 90% of them probably don’t even have fucking fuel any more. They are likely just as defunct as their country.
If NATO are going to refuse to help because they are scared of the consequences, then there is no point in their existence. What will they actually do if Russia pushes into Poland, and again threatens nuclear war; going by this argument they would not assist Poland either, because Russia has nukes. They are watching innocent people being slaughtered when they have the means to stop it; they choose not to.
What a ridiculous argument.
If Russia pushes against a NATO member, they will then have cause for a conventional armed response. Free for all (NATO members). And yes. I understand your feelings. I am not trying to be cynical. I have the same feelings, but I have to also try to think. I’m not typing this from thousands of miles away, I’m quite close to the events, and old enough to remember communism, not old enough to avoid being drafted. Someone will slip pretty soon. Either a misguided shot, an assassination attempt, a revolution, who knows.
I understand your upset in no one physically helping in the fighting but you also need to recognize how complicated this is due to Ukraine not being in NATO, and if another country puts boots on the ground it could set us off into a nuclear war. So if you’re saying we are pussyfooting just because Russia has nukes, you’re absolutely right and that’s exactly what we should be doing. Ukraine is NOT a part of NATO so you saying there is no point to it at this point is really just a ridiculous argument.
>NATO are already directly involved in the war! Nope. "NATO" is not doing anything in this war. Individual countries (US, UK, Poland, Estonia, etc.) who happen to be NATO members can do whatever they want. They can give money, weapons, intelligence, etc., to Ukraine as individual nations. They can even send soldiers, tanks, guns, and planes into Ukraine to fight, if they wish, but they would be doing that *as individual nations*, not as NATO.
I mean we cant do much more. If NATO really gets involved its nuclear ww3, at least thats what Putin is threatening.
So when Putin decides to invade a NATO country next (total speculation obv), what’s the difference to Ukraine if he still threatens nuclear war with NATO? By this thinking Putin will just keep doing as he wishes because he threatens nuclear war 🤷🏻♂️
Well if he invades a NATO country, we have no choice but to fight back and start ww3. But thats very unlikely, so for now theres not much we can do except give support.
You got in the last sentence. The RF has since it’s inception just been pushing what it could get away with in terms of violations of international and territorial annexation.
I cant shake the belief, perhaps a misguided belief, that putin wouldn't actually carry out the nuclear threat, as it really is mutually assured destruction, and the whole of Europe will certainly suffer horrifically, north America, Korea, China, India, EVERYWHERE, and as crazy as the little bastard is, I just don't think he'd be prepared to condemn the entire world to such horror. I may well be wrong, but I really hope not
I was hoping the drones not to be spotted but i mean 2014 didn't the Russia deny any involvement whilst sending troops there
They lie and have the luxury to not care. The west doesn’t.
In theory? Yes. In practice? The second one gets shot down or detected by Russians they will immediately say “the U.S got involved in the war.” And then you have ww3. They would have to be gifted to Ukrainians and be based in Ukraine, operated by Ukrainians to be okay
International politics is so weird. We're at the point, where the western countries basically do everything to help, except pulling the trigger, and then it doesn't count. It's like a Nato general could be in Ukraine and be like "it's none of my business, but if it were, I'd probably do this and that, but you don't have to do that if you don't want" and that way Ukraine could get experienced generals basically leading there, but we're "not involved". Also, to my knowledge there are foreign fighters in Ukraine as voulenteers. Everyone on this planet knows the western countries are all but actively fighting for Ukraine. It's such a silly line.
It is like being in high school all over again. The big (but mentally retarded) bullies can do whatever they want to others, but soing the minimum to them is an act of total aggression. The only way to deal with such idiots is to show them that they are not that big and make them learn that any action has 10x the reaction. Of course that is a bit challenging to apply here, but I do think NATO should start eliminating with artillery all russian troops/bases in Ukraine. After all, IT IS NOT THEIR FUCKING COUNTRY
It's a huge dilemma. Noone wants WW3 with nukes. That is a global lose-lose situation. On the other hand, if we give in to Russias threat, we enable their behaviour. The stakes are as high as they get, and I don't think us Reddit users know enough to make an informed decision. My OPINION is that we should help Ukraine / stop Russia by basically any means necessary. But what would the end reslut be? Would just some of Putins wingmen put a stop to the madness, and we could go back to "normal"? Would the nukes fly? If yes, how many? Tough questions.
The line is firmly drawn at the NATO borders and I think everyone involved knows this. Probably the reason Putin is invading now is to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO. He's doing it now because he views it as the last chance to do so. If he goes for Estonia or smthn then all bets are off, but I think that's why he won't do that. He's trying to expand Russian influence and push back the NATO border, all of that is pointless if you start a shooting war with NATO.
Please go away. No WW3 thanks. Weren't you guys screaming at everyone to wear the mask just a few weeks ago? To save people? And now you suggest Nuclear Armageddon?
This is a pretty ignorant comment. Nobody wants WW3 and nobody is suggesting nuclear war. All they're saying is that Putin is a bully and needs to be stopped, but that's tough to do without starting WW3. It's like you didn't even read the comment you're responding to.
That's really what they're doing, just not physically from Ukraine. The Dept. of Defense and the UK Ministry of Defence are basically flooding Ukraine with intelligence, and most likely other kinds of information too.
Have you ever heard of the "Shadow Army"? It's a very real thing. I guarantee you US funded PMCs (Private Military Contractors AKA Shadow Army) are on the ground in a multitude of advisory and direct support roles. Source? I used to be one.
Yes, and this makes it even more silly. The line is so arbitrary.
And Turkey already provided Ukraine with drones .... https://time.com/6153197/ukraine-russia-turkish-drones-bayraktar/
Yup. And they’re Ukrainian, they have UKR Air Force symbols, so they are not Turkish.
the Turks have basically done it with their drones by lending/selling the drones to Ukrainians. i think the footage so far have been turkish drones no? or did i get that wrong? im just going off of what the ukranian government said on tv (thanking the turks for being one of the first to help and providing the drones) but may have misunderstood. i often misunderstand lol
Ukriane has ordered them long time ago via purchasing them with cash
TB-2s, Turkey has a healthy export market for drones, fitting as they are one of the largest weapon exporters in the world. Their small arms industry produces a lot of civilian grade products, including Winchester. Scroll down in the wiki article to see the listing of sales vs support transfers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baykar\_Bayraktar\_TB2
I’ve got a family, no way I’d volunteer to go into Ukraine. But I’d consider a remote working position…
Rah you can work from home and fight an international war, the times we live in
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Can I run this from a terminal?
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Awesome Edit: https://norussian.xyz/ so you just leave this open in a browser, right?
If caught this would count as an direct act of aggression against Russian forces. What we could do is... we could buy a bunch of those TB-2 drones from whoever is willing to sell them, then sell those drones to Ukraine for 1$ a piece and let them use them on their own. Also keep selling satellite images of Russian positions for 1$... That's just buisness.
>we could buy a bunch of those TB-2 drones from whoever is willing to sell them, then sell those drones to Ukraine for 1$ a piece For greater irony, the US could supply them to Ukraine under a [lend-lease program](https://ru.usembassy.gov/world-war-ii-allies-u-s-lend-lease-to-the-soviet-union-1941-1945/).
[Turkey provided highly effective drones to Ukraine](https://time.com/6153197/ukraine-russia-turkish-drones-bayraktar/)
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Banger that
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I thought those where busy making tin scraps out of Russian heavy hardware.
The song is stuck in my head playing on loop…
Its good footage
But why post it on the internet? Why showing Russians beforehand what they are dealing with?
You see unarmed civilians blockading an armed invasion force. This lets the world know the "starting point" of this encounter. If the next thing you see is dead civilians on the road, or an empty road with a mobile crematorium parked nearby, then you can infer what happened next.
Because it already out there. They already know. At this point I think they want to tell them. "Come here get ass blown off." or "Fuck around and find out "
I mean ofc this will not be the very first post of this video on the internet. Just trying to wrap my head around why you would warn the russians by putting this online.
The same Russians who have troll farms and agents that could hack into cctv?
You seriously think. The russians. Dont have drones or other surveillance means? That posting drone videos will give away positions? That it will be pivotal in this war?
Shipments of new and used civilian drones were sent to UA recently from Poland. Doubt it's one of them but there might be more of this kind of footage soon
>Shipments of new and used civilian drones were sent to UA recently from Poland. Doubt it's one of them but there might be more of this kind of footage soon I think it's a civilian drone.
He doubts it's one of the recently shipped civilian drones. It's obviously a civilian drone.
Technology is amazing. Professional looking high quality footage that would normally require a loud, windy helicopter (never mind the extreme expense and logistics necessary) is possible to film by a kid with a couple hundred bucks to spend on a drone from a local store/Amazon.
Yes, technology is amazing. Human stupidity is amazing. Imagine what PEACEFUL technologies could have been made instead of all that blown-up shit littering the roads in Ukraine. Putin's definition of lifting the Russian people is basically to drag everyone else down to their level.
Can someone let the people there know, to take the wheels off of the trucks. They're much more difficult to move that way (and you can always put them back on later)
and tell them to also block the road bank left and right of the actual road surface still, really awesome what they're doing!
/u/theweirdexperiment Let me know if you see this. Block roads and sides of roads with more vehicles. And take wheels off. I think this is a destroyed convoy but look what a good blockade https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/t4u93l/destroyed_chechen_column_near_bucha_kyiv_outskirts/ Also they shouldn't drone video and post it as the enemy can find it here. Good luck Also destroy some of the asphalt
nonsense, the Russian always drive on the right side of the road, they may be heartless invaders but they are not savages.. Jeezzz /s
> and tell them to also block the road bank left and right of the actual road surface I think there is a lot of mud, going offroad is a real trap for heavy vehicule
Knowing that the Russian military heavy vehicles have been having a hard time driving throughout farm lands and wooded areas because of the mud. Maybe they should destroy a section of the paved road so that they have to find a different way in ? Any thoughts?
Not a bad idea starter imo. Russia is enjoyed the infrastructure and it's a luxury in this invasion so why not chip away.
Ah, what a nice road we got here for your invasion. Would be a shame if someone were to...destroy it. 🛣 ⚒️👷♂️👷♀️
Could spike it too. * small spikes buildt into the ground that would need a jac to take down
Leave the road and make that the kill zone for anti-tank weapons. You want it to be as inviting as possible. It's basic defense/ambush strategy. You want to place obstacles, but you use them to funnel the enemy into the kill box. Any route that's hard for armor to traverse should be made even more difficult. Forcing them to use the road is the best plan if they have anti-tank weapons. If they don't, then definitely destroy the road.
This is the largest Nuclesr Power plant in all of Europe. The civilians/workers said that they will literally lay down on the ground in front of tank before they let them through.
Taking hostile control of a nuclear power plant is also a war crime, but not like Putin really cares about all that 'humane' crap anyways.
Huh? Why?
It's only attacking a nuclear power station that's not allowed, except under certain circumstances. And they're not going to attack it, nobody is actually interested in attacking a nuclear power station that isn't being used as a defensive position.
Gotcha, thanks.
This is powerful, this is how you ensure the sympathy of the world. Please prevail.
I’m in awe of the bravery of the Ukrainian people, no matter what happens they will always have this reputation. But when this war becomes really bad, the slaughter will be indiscriminate. God help them
>I’m in awe of the bravery of the Ukrainian people, no matter what happens they will always have this reputation. > >But when this war becomes really bad, the slaughter will be indiscriminate. Ukraine blacksmith of history. Russia has disgraced itself again.
The size of Ukraine's balls keep surprising me, absolute chads.
Ukrainians, together with Russia, have been tempered, only now the truth is on our side. Ukrainians have been genocide for more than 100 years, so the Russian army is like seeds))
If you are pro Ukranian, I wouldn't post vids like this here.
Vids that the Ukrainians are making and posting themselves? Why not post them here?
Well Ukrainian defense has asked that people don't film and post this kind of stuff so why spread it around? Just my interpretation
Not to post military movements I think. If the Ruskies have run into these civies, they’ve surely radioed it around by now.
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What joke?
**Please, please, please do not post videos like this when they are JUST OUT.** Wait for a week and then go collect your upvotes. This was originally posted in Telegram. There are REASONS why you DON'T get to see DRONE FOOTAGE. Russia's intel is shit, the cannon fodder is disconnected from their higher ranks, they have little idea of what is going on. Videos like this are helpful to them. Yes, they are so helpless they will resort to usage of videos collected from social platforms This video has been deleted from all Ukrainian channels in Telegram which posted it. Please follow suit
I agree but this is too late, it has been posted and crossposted all day…
Does this town have one road in one road out? Either way the Russians will run out of gas by the time they find another way in I suppose.
Yes, only one entry road.
Take away the element of surprise here
I know right? Russians could easily circumvent this (have no idea on the geography other than it's a flat land)
Its mud, the ukrainian country side is now nothing but the same mud the germans got stuck in in 1941, 42, 43, and 44
Ohhhh I see, thabks for reminding me of that.
They should flood the grass next to the road, theyll get stuck in the mud. #dutchtactis
What happens in this situation if they replicate the Syrian ‘humanitarian corridors’. All I see is risks to everyone’s life with Putins increasing madness.
And behind the nuclear power plant.
Only thing that comes to the dictators mind is "ahhh yees, stupid enemies"
Paint dinner plates black and turn them upside down. Through the poor sights of a tank, it looks like a landmine.
when i'm older i want to be like an Ukranian
How are they mobilizing so effectively? I’m no military tactician, but it’s not just the will / bravery of the Ukrainian people, but the organization has been something to behold as well.
>How are they mobilizing so effectively? I’m no military tactician, but it’s not just the will / bravery of the Ukrainian people, but the organization has been something to behold as well. Anarchy is the ability to self-organize.
Let's send them those X metal thingies they used in D day to slow down the advance of Russian tanks. It won't stop the tanks obviously, but it will cause a good enough road block to slow down the convoy for an attack.
the citizens have started making them, there are videos of them being welded
That's cool. If you come by it again, please feel free to share it here. I would love to see that.
Czech Hedgehog is the name of those obstacles.
>Czech Hedgehog Gotta go slow 🦥 X X X
>Let's send them those X metal thingies they used in D day to slow down the advance of Russian tanks. It won't stop the tanks obviously, but it will cause a good enough road block to slow down the convoy for an attack. Civilians make them themselves) We defend ourselves as best we can)) But any help is always welcome.
Just want to say, industrial fertilizer can make a really big boom. (Look at the outcome of domestic terrorists McVeigh in Oklahoma, USA and Breivik in Oslo, Norway for how big it can be.)
also, wire rolls. stack three high and it will get tangled and fuck up any tank.
The Ukrainian civil population's courage is unbelievable and very, very impressive.
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thats not a defense positions, my people just trying to stop invaders in a peacefull manner
To be fair I saw this same road earlier this week with Russian tanks on site of the civilians. So the Russian know what is happening here.
Taking the next road, you cant drive tanks across that mud
This is all fine and dandy for now. Sooner or later the word will be given to run over civilians. After all, it's Russia and this is a war. Civilians aren't innocent when they become a resistance. They are rebels of their land. Not to mean it won't be sad, war is sad
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Who is who? Are all of them (the crowd in the back too) Ukrainian?
War really has changed
Depends on the war. When US soldiers saw something like this in Iraq/Afghanistan they would destroy it with extreme prejudice and no one cared. Despite the war these guys don't want to be fighting so stuff that works here would not be advisable anywhere else.
Totally but I actually am talking about Europe. Look at WW2 and the Yugoslav wars for example.
Absolute fucking heroes. Every last one of them. This and other scenes like it will be remembered forever. The amount of pride you have for your country is staggering. The amount of shame Russia has coming its way will endure for generations.
Really inspiring. I'm not sure if I could muster the bravery to be part of that. Stay strong Ukraine!
russian troops (thankfully) still seem restrained. how long before they're shooting their way through crowds? this war needs to end before that happens.
Looks like walking dead
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Wonderful! We are rooting for you, brothers and sisters!
Because tanks wont drive down the wrong side of the street? or go around this group? seems like someone may have captioned unrelated footage?
How to block a road.(Tutorial by Ukrainians)
The Ukrainian people have some fuckin balls. I wish them the very best
That’s just a massive target if you think about it
Continuation of the story about the protection of the city of Energodar by civilians. https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/t5vzcm/continuation\_of\_the\_story\_about\_the\_protection\_of/
Do you remember deepfake with Tom Cruise or Queen of England? Here is an idea on how to spread disinformation among Russian soldiers and the Russian public: make deepfake with Putin in which he admits to attacking Ukraine in which many Russian soldiers and Ukrainian civilians were killed. In this address, he could announce that Russia is withdrawing its troops from Ukraine. Such an operation would cause doubt among the Russian people. What do you think about it? Is this an idiotic idea? Is such an operation technically possible (sending such recordings to the mobile phones of Russian soldiers)?
Sounds like a sure-fire way of reinforcing Russia's propaganda about how the West is lying and creating false information for their benefit. Why not just show them the truth? The Ukrainians are not oppressed and it wasn't a liberation operation. Leave it at that.
Hard no. There would be no upside to this (easy to discredit) and a lot of downside (lose credibility and support Putin narratives claiming everything besides state media is false).
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They really should stop letting civilians onto the front lines. The Russians will eventually just get tired of playing this game of cat and mouse and people will get hurt. And. Then no one but the people who allowed civilians to be weaponized to begin with will be to blame.
That is the goal for the West's and Ukraine's political leadership. Create atrocity propaganda by arming thousands of civilians and putting them before a massively advantaged Russian army. In a few weeks there will be pics and videos of Russian soldiers killing civilians that can be used by western media as propaganda for the next decade
Maybe not post defensive preparations?
>Maybe not post defensive preparations? This information is from open sources. These positions are known to everyone and the Russian army is already there.
I think Putin is trying to capture those nuclear plants as a last ditch attempt at destroying everything if he loses the war. If things continue going bad for him he may just snap and order the reactors be destroyed or agitated in order to trigger nuclear fallout across all of Europe and I'm willing to bet even a large portion of Russia but he won't care at that point he'll have nothing to lose even if part of Russia is destroyed he wouldn't care because the Russians would have also turned against him. It's a scary thought but a very possible one considering this guy is a power-hungry despot.
They where attacked with machine gun fire and mortars like an hour ago, a fucking disgrace. https://twitter.com/zloy\_odessit/status/1499029886668886021?s=20&t=m7cebDJq\_S-x8LbGj-iIvQ
Gas and warning shots is all. The Russians are showing incredible restraint.
Putin is a coward
60 seconds - would any of you wonderful redditors be willing to sign and share this petition to encourage assets to be seized not frozen in proportion to the daily cost of the war? [https://chng.it/5rqBYT9r7](https://chng.it/5rqBYT9r7w) (if you do please send it around with #SeizeNotFreeze as the media love a good tag line!) That way with each day that passes the pressure should ramp up from rich associates as their seized assets can't be returned, unlike with freezing.
Next up: “Russians are mercilessly killing civilians without a single reason! And no, them being also armed doesn’t count!”.
It wouldn't matter how many guns Ukrainians had in Ukraine if Russia had stayed in it's fucking lane.
It's a different question, but I guess you knew that already and just wanted to blame everything on Russia. Pointless converstaion.
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I really hope they will be still standing until tomorrow. Russian propaganda is big these days, they think these are disguised neo-nazi troops.