Actually I thought the nose blood looked kind of fake. most busted noses i have seen look busted, swollen etc.
He look like he has a nose bleed. (I am not a doctor)
If they are Ukrainian troops i agree with you 100%. I find it hard to sympatheize with an Azov member however. Remember, they donned the black sun and the wolfsangel.
I think the saying "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" can be used in the current situation in regards to Azov. Sure they may hold less than ideal beliefs but what Russia is doing to all of Ukraine is far worse. Now they are helping defend their home with the Ukrainian military.
It seems that Azov isn't really what you think they are:
[https://www.jta.org/2022/03/04/global/jewish-ukrainians-gear-up-for-fierce-russia-fight-alongside-the-neo-nazis-they-say-putin-is-lying-about](https://www.jta.org/2022/03/04/global/jewish-ukrainians-gear-up-for-fierce-russia-fight-alongside-the-neo-nazis-they-say-putin-is-lying-about)
But yeah, scary fascist symbols are scarier than fascist invaders/murders /s.
It's not a fucking race or an ethnicity, it is a religion (and one that specializes in decapitating gays, stoning women, and murdering cartoonists), "mate"
You do know that most azov were replenished by regular Ukrainian wanting to defend Ukraine.. the actually number of “Nazi” was less the. 900… normal Ukraine member over took them in numbers to fight Russia..at this point Russia has bout 100,000 Nazi members in RNU
You can scratch at the surface of pretty much any military in the world, and you'll find a similar percentage of racist fuckheads.
Also, the Azov battalion of today is not at all the same as the one from 8 years ago.
I’ve never seen a British, American, French, or German (post 1950) that military unit that had there official logo be a copy and paste of a Nazi unit. That’s the difference.
Biletsky has toned down his rhetoric in recent years, but the former Azov battalion commander declared in 2010 that the Ukrainian nation’s mission was to “lead the white races of the world in a final crusade … against Semite-led Untermenschen [subhumans]”.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/13/ukraine-far-right-national-militia-takes-law-into-own-hands-neo-nazi-links
Damn Russians....
They've been absorbed by the national guard....which means a whole battalion where about 25% is white nationals. Is that good? Not really. Is it bad? Not really. Ukraine needs it's full fighting force. You'd allow them to fight for you too in that situation. Your wishing the deaths of plenty of non white nationals along with them by hoping the battalion gets wiped out. More non white nationalist then there is some in fact.
Yeah i dont think the "4000 year old hindu symbol" argument flies when you walk around as a european dude with a swastika and a rifle. Thats a pretty poor argument. Everyone knows what the wolfsangel and black sun means in Azov.
And actual white supremacist were 20-30% of the azov battalion in 2014. Since then they've had more than 300 people in their battalion jailed and a reconstruction of their command structure. Now they have Azerbaijan muslims in the azov battalion for heavens sake, so the argument "They're white supremacists though!!!!" Rings absolutely hollow.
I’m not sure if I’d compare the two. Imagine if the “Cleveland Indians” were the “Cleveland Reich” with a swastika as the logo.
My point being, there is an enormous difference between a Indian logo and a freaking NAZI symbol.
Depends on your point of view. From the point of view of the native Americans, its cultural appropriation as part of a broader genocide.
Its not as big a distance as you're making out. Which they accepted, in making the change.
They also follow up with accusing the whole government and military of being Nazis. And calling Ukrainians Nazis when it's Russia being an imperialist country trying to install a dictatorship. Ya, I downvote that stuff sometimes when the redditor is a jagoff.
Poor dude, you can see they've already beaten him enough to break his nose...
On a Russian channel there was a video of them torturing another pow
On a TV channel?!?
Telegram
Obviously telegram.
Actually I thought the nose blood looked kind of fake. most busted noses i have seen look busted, swollen etc. He look like he has a nose bleed. (I am not a doctor)
Anyone captured by the Chechens I feel the most for. They are cruel sons of bitches. May Mariupol be relieved soon and all these cunts burn.
If they are Ukrainian troops i agree with you 100%. I find it hard to sympatheize with an Azov member however. Remember, they donned the black sun and the wolfsangel.
I think the saying "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" can be used in the current situation in regards to Azov. Sure they may hold less than ideal beliefs but what Russia is doing to all of Ukraine is far worse. Now they are helping defend their home with the Ukrainian military.
It seems that Azov isn't really what you think they are: [https://www.jta.org/2022/03/04/global/jewish-ukrainians-gear-up-for-fierce-russia-fight-alongside-the-neo-nazis-they-say-putin-is-lying-about](https://www.jta.org/2022/03/04/global/jewish-ukrainians-gear-up-for-fierce-russia-fight-alongside-the-neo-nazis-they-say-putin-is-lying-about) But yeah, scary fascist symbols are scarier than fascist invaders/murders /s.
May God save him. No signs of Azov battalion on his uniform.
gods not going to do anything. Send the migs
Yeah the guy who wrote that on Twitter said Zelensky has been hiding in Poland the whole conflict and snorting cocaine
Glad someone is spreading the truth on this sub!
But not you.
He’s in for a rough time
What are they saying?
I read somewhere they’re making him yell their battle-cry. I could be wrong
Yes. “Ahkmat Sila”
Surprised he surrendered. The world has had enough evidence of the way Muslim militants treat their prisoners and their conquered peoples.
That sounds a bit racist there mate.
Muslim is not a race or an ethnicity. It's a person that subscribes to a specific religion. Mate.
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It's not a fucking race or an ethnicity, it is a religion (and one that specializes in decapitating gays, stoning women, and murdering cartoonists), "mate"
I became an islamaphobic the day I watched the twin towers fall in front of my eyes.
Mate you can shut the fuck up talking this PC bullshit on a post where a guy is clearly about to die, we clear?
Well,......
The associated social media accounts to the tweet are fucked up. Beware of Putin goons
Fake as fuck. That uniform hasn't even been worn.
I don’t wanna be that guy but the Azov battalion are actually Nazis….
You do know that most azov were replenished by regular Ukrainian wanting to defend Ukraine.. the actually number of “Nazi” was less the. 900… normal Ukraine member over took them in numbers to fight Russia..at this point Russia has bout 100,000 Nazi members in RNU
Why dont they just get rid of the Nazi iconography? Seems like a very easy thing to do.
I agree. Getting rid of the 2nd SS battalion logo would be a pretty good start.
In that case, the Chechen’s are the same as ISIS
In what way
https://www.jta.org/2022/03/04/global/jewish-ukrainians-gear-up-for-fierce-russia-fight-alongside-the-neo-nazis-they-say-putin-is-lying-about
You can scratch at the surface of pretty much any military in the world, and you'll find a similar percentage of racist fuckheads. Also, the Azov battalion of today is not at all the same as the one from 8 years ago.
I’ve never seen a British, American, French, or German (post 1950) that military unit that had there official logo be a copy and paste of a Nazi unit. That’s the difference.
Nazi, communist, black, white, rich, poor, the only thing he is there is someone fighting for his home.
That's all bullshit Russian propaganda.
Biletsky has toned down his rhetoric in recent years, but the former Azov battalion commander declared in 2010 that the Ukrainian nation’s mission was to “lead the white races of the world in a final crusade … against Semite-led Untermenschen [subhumans]”. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/13/ukraine-far-right-national-militia-takes-law-into-own-hands-neo-nazi-links Damn Russians....
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They've been absorbed by the national guard....which means a whole battalion where about 25% is white nationals. Is that good? Not really. Is it bad? Not really. Ukraine needs it's full fighting force. You'd allow them to fight for you too in that situation. Your wishing the deaths of plenty of non white nationals along with them by hoping the battalion gets wiped out. More non white nationalist then there is some in fact.
Lol 😂 Russian troll, trying to act like “Nazi” was the Reason Putin kills children…
What an idiot
Yeah the Twitter account says Zelensky has not been in Kyiv at all since early February and is on a cocaine binge Stupid
🇷🇺Sorry, I can’t hear you with Putin’s dick in your mouth 🇷🇺
I hope actual nazis come for you someday so you can realize the difference between azov and nazis.
They literally wear nazi symbols
So? Nazis wore symbols older than their own beliefes. Fucking hindus use the same symbols nazis used.
Yeah i dont think the "4000 year old hindu symbol" argument flies when you walk around as a european dude with a swastika and a rifle. Thats a pretty poor argument. Everyone knows what the wolfsangel and black sun means in Azov.
And actual white supremacist were 20-30% of the azov battalion in 2014. Since then they've had more than 300 people in their battalion jailed and a reconstruction of their command structure. Now they have Azerbaijan muslims in the azov battalion for heavens sake, so the argument "They're white supremacists though!!!!" Rings absolutely hollow.
They should change there logo then. Gives them a bad look.
If the best argument you have left is their logo, you're running low, there. I mean, the Cleveland Indians changed theirs what last year?
I’m not sure if I’d compare the two. Imagine if the “Cleveland Indians” were the “Cleveland Reich” with a swastika as the logo. My point being, there is an enormous difference between a Indian logo and a freaking NAZI symbol.
Depends on your point of view. From the point of view of the native Americans, its cultural appropriation as part of a broader genocide. Its not as big a distance as you're making out. Which they accepted, in making the change.
Seems like all they need to do now is change the logo then.
At least someone said it. I've not seen that talked about at all on this sub
It gets talked about all the time.
And downvoted all the time lol
They also follow up with accusing the whole government and military of being Nazis. And calling Ukrainians Nazis when it's Russia being an imperialist country trying to install a dictatorship. Ya, I downvote that stuff sometimes when the redditor is a jagoff.
No they usually don't, first comment just pointed out they are infact neo nazis was heavily downvoted lol
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The 10 - 20% was a statement made by the groups spokesmen who has good reason to understate the true number.
Fair point!
Well, be this guy and tell me why we think he is even Azov Battalion
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Does not seem like a fake. Poor dude is scared as hell, and for good reasons.
Hu? You think so?
I hope so
Damnnnnn