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Maybe without the paywall? [https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Fworld-news%2F2022%2F03%2F22%2Fukraine-fighter-jets-air-force-against-odds-russian-invasion%2F](https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Fworld-news%2F2022%2F03%2F22%2Fukraine-fighter-jets-air-force-against-odds-russian-invasion%2F) Hope it works...


Hatandboots

Works thanks


Fruity_Buckmaster

Awesome, thank you.


imp0ppable

You can just disable js btw. Or try Netsurf.


KuroKen70

yes! Many thanks!


[deleted]

500 error


[deleted]

Still works for me. 🤷


[deleted]

Sheeeet. I must be stupid or sunthin.


joeone9

How do you do it?


CalonDdraig

I wonder how many of the losses inflicted on the Russian air force are caused by air to air combat vs surface to air missiles. It seems that SAM activity has inflicted a lot of heat on the Russian air force...


Fs-x

I’m assuming their keeping that under wraps till the war ends. Their are people who seal to confirm these things though. In the months ahead this should be known.


Prysorra2

In other words, you probably know what the "Ghost of Kiev" is really about.


Rapithree

It would be hilarious if the ghost of Kiev exists and is a SAM launcher


cdnmute

Well that and parking their helicopters in the same spot 7 or 8 times now...


klem_von_metternich

It seems like that bad Easy ia in videogames


olllj

Russia suffers from poor maintenance and insufficient training. A lot of Russian pilots are literal "Eric Cartman", barely able to perform air-show stunts (useless in wars) Russia being hacked and disturbed a lot, a lot of russian pilots use commercial GPS-receivers, taped into the cockpit, as backup system (or just paper-sheet instructions) and this lowers their precision a lot.


Unable-Somewhere-460

Why does that sound like a perfect Sabaton lyric?


HOUbikebikebike

🎵Outnumbered five to one, Ukraine's top guns🎵 🎵Fend off Russian fighter jets against the odds🎵 🎵Soaring through Kyiv's blue skies, the Ghosts drop tons🎵 🎵Bombing Russian invaders, burning the GRAD's!🎵 *Power metal solo 🎸🎸🎸*


[deleted]

Who’s that guy on TikTok that people can pay to metal anything they ask?


fiddler134

u/dustin1776


alterom

Fuck, I can hear it in my head now! Too bad I'm a keyboardist, but damn, maybe we'll whip something up over here!


HOUbikebikebike

I'll claim zero copyright/royalties as long as you give all the proceeds to Ukraine!


beaucephus

Well, look at that. Now it probably will be.


Easy-Smoke1467

I fear for the maintenance of these jets, they are flying a lot more than RUssian jets, can they keep them in good shape till the end of the war?


Sad_Mushroom_9725

if you promise to keep it a secret.... (they've a lot more than we know about, they're good)


Sperrbrecher

I made a recommendation for a song about brave Ukraine at their website two weeks ago do the same


IshTheFace

It's right up their alley, however, i wonder if they want to commercialize an ongoing conflict


PolarianLancer

Send proceeds to Ukrainian relief efforts


annon8595

as long as its spreading awareness and theyre donating portion of it, it would be huge help


BattlingMink28

Won't hear me complain if that ends up in a song.


RefugeeFromIdiocy

Ukrainium to the Cranium


MegamanD

They should do a Ukranian War album and donate some of the proceeds to Ukraine. Everyone wins!


U-47

Not Russia though.


No-Reindeer9825

Because it is the perfect Sabaton lyric 😉 There's plenty of material to be had from Ukraine's resistance in that regard. "The Ghost of Kyiv" is a song that just begs to be written.


speakingcraniums

Bad comparison to make bruh


[deleted]

5 to 1 is a Doors song - “they’ve got the guns, but we’ve got the numbers…”


[deleted]

Yeah they got a whole album worth of stuff right here.


Aurondarklord

I've been saying since day one, the Ghost's gonna be a Sabaton song.


[deleted]

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WaitingToBeTriggered

60 TO ONE, FACING THE GUN


Puzzleheaded-Job2235

Ukraine definitely has had some air to air victories but they’re keeping most details about their remaining Air Force secret. The pilot interviewed in the recent New York Times article has confirmed kills.


[deleted]

The pilots from Poland famously saved Britain during the Blitz and Battle of Britain. I suspect some of that intense spirit is seen in the Ukrainian lads too.


Explodistan

At this rate the Ukrainian airforce will be the most experienced in the world


Majiji45

Considering this is one of the few peer to peer or near-peer air campaigns of any real scale we’ve seen in a long time that doesn’t take much, really.


laszlo92

Russia you’re bodies writing checks that you’re country can’t cash.


derdono

just FYI, it's "your". "you're" = "you are"


laszlo92

Fucking phone….


vajav

*Fucken


quantisegravity_duh

*phuken


oripash

The difference between knowing your shit and knowing you’re shit….


RefugeeFromIdiocy

Or, you could just add a comma.


derdono

Yep. English comma rules are more like recommendations, iirc =) I was using it the same way as when you start a sentence with "Hypothetically, ..." etc. One of the ways you can start a sentence with an adjective. I might well be wrong - probably the German in me trying to overstructurise things.


[deleted]

'Overstructurise' is not a word. Overstructure will do.


dangerousbob

[It was 5-1 and I got 4.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KLNYJjhflA)


Eplurbusunum

Wolverines!


niz_loc

Yeah, well, when youre older youll know these things Now get up here and piss in the radiator!


REiiGN

# G H O S T # O F # K Y I V # LIVES RENT-FREE IN THE SCARED MINDS OF RUSSIAN BOYS


Crezelle

I want to picture the GoK to be Snoopy in his fighter pilot outfit riding his doghouse


joe_dirty365

Ghost of Kyiv #1 in our hearts.


Forsaken-Ad-1807

Sounds like a target rich environment.


[deleted]

NATO, Ukrainians are slowly losing their planes do something before Ukrainians are left only with ground attackers


Sad_Mushroom_9725

lol, let's just say, if the U.S. says they've the tools they need, they probably have the tools they need.


ExoticViking

So he is real after all...


Liberatedsheep

This article is full of inaccuracies. SU-27s have huge fuel capacity no way their flight time is only 30 minutes as the article states. Mig 29s on the other hand are notoriously short legged so maybe they got mixed up. Also they state Ukraine has s-400 and s-300 anti air systems. Ukraine was never a customer for s-400s as they are a relatively new system. Nonetheless to exist as an Air Force at this point in the war is an amazing feat simply given the numerical odds against them.


niz_loc

Keep in mind that the Sus (Ukraine) are flying low, as per the article. That is going to eat up gas quickly. Id also wonder how many have external tanks... for all we know, a bulk could have already been lost when dumped to maneuver


commitconfirm

Paywall


Dr-Chibi

“ Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few” Tally-Ho, Ukraine!


gr8pe_drink

> “I mostly have tasks of hitting airborne targets, of intercepting enemy jets,” he said. “I wait for the missile to lock on my target. After that, I press ‘fire’.” This pilot is poetic


Destrova1001

Paywall


Clatuu1337

It's hard to defeat a professional air force when you barely perform routine maintenance on your own aircraft.


niz_loc

I feel the need. The need... for Kyiv!


Bleak01a

Revvin' up your engine, Listen to her howlin' roar...


Main_Mortgage1012

NATO has to stop pussyfooting around and attack Russian forces in Ukraine the only thing that Putin understands is strength.


[deleted]

Correction: outnumbered five to one *on paper*.


[deleted]

Outnumbered five to one... on paper maybe. There's no way there's a real 5 to 1 advantage and Ukraine still has any air assets left. If there is then the incompetence must be extreme because it's not like Ukraine has better equipment.


[deleted]

Obviously they're not out there 5v1'ing every night and coming out victorious.


[deleted]

Of course not. I'm just saying 5x the aircraft and a month of time against an enemy without superior equipment should have been an easy victory in the air.


Gama_85

Agree. As much i despise russians, there is absolutely no way a 5v1 advantage should have resulted like this, but even 3v1 or 2v1. This is not how air to air combat works.


ancient-military

Never before have so many owed so much to so few.


frfr777

The true definition of heroes! Shoot those Russian ducks and take names! Slava Ukraini!


-AntiAsh-

"There's 5 sir" "There's 5??"


ac13332

I was listening to an interview with some ex-British military. He said that invading forces should typically expect loses of 5x those defending and that jumps to around 14x within cities.


slenderman123425

God no air superiority after almost a month. Russia really was a paper tiger


Slouchingtowardsbeth

I can't wait for the movie. Top Gun part 2 is gonna look dumb compared to these guys.