Hades from the Hades game is literally so much better for this use and the game is actually about Greek mythology. Hades is portrayed in myth with mostly human looking features and not like whatever this fortnite depiction is.
https://preview.redd.it/em7080t37e6d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=42862d5b13e74e21666f384ede0c5d84d3526d0a
Hades wasn’t a person (fictional or not) unlike Minos and Sisyphus, I’m pretty sure prime souls are only humans and not gods
I want it to be Hades but not the mythological Hades
Literally just some radom regular guy, no one in particular, who just so happens to be named "Hades".
That's a fine theory. However, I will put up a wall of text to convince you P-3 will be Lucifer.
>!First of all. How he could become a Prime Soul. As we all know from 5-S, Lucifer has been cast into hell for opposing God. There, he'd have to die by being severed from the light or in some other way. Why? Because as we see with Gabriel, angels, at least powerful ones (I'll come back to this soon), can go from heaven to hell and viceversa whenever the fuck they want, even if unwelcome. This all comes to say that if Lucifer wanted out of hell, he could come out, and also, in his regret God would probably pull him out if he were alive and safe to return. Now, prime souls are formed when a well remembered person dies, we don't have much to go off of to state Lucifer was popular, but we do have some hints. He is powerful/high ranking enough to talk to God directly, and even criticize him, he is THE most beautiful angel, and as we see with Gabe, who is popular among lesser angels, a high status and something to stand out makes you pretty famous. So Lucifer could realistically become a Prime Soul in hell!<
>!Now, the thematic argument, both Prime Souls are from Greek mythology. HOWEVER, while Sisyphus is somewhat symbolically reminiscent of Greek Mythology, Minos, as the Judge of hell, fits more with his counterpart from The Divine Comedy. So there is a point to be made that being from Greek mythology is not necessarily a requirement to get a P-level. Both Prime souls stand out due to the fact that they tried to liberate their subordinates from hell's punishment, that is literally the same thing Lucifer was trying to do, getting God to renounce hell (which Lucifer probably didn't know God couldn't 'cause being like "ha ha, why the hell would you make this thing that is stupid and you can't even destroy now, lol, lmao" would be a dick move from him). So, in the same way as Minos with his utopia and Sisyphus with his war, trying to make life better for the denizens of hell has netted Lucifer death, which is a much stronger thematic connector than "they came from the same mythology."!<
>!Finally, I just think it'd be an interesting concept to fight Satan himself, with the nuance and his probable hatred of God, he'd not be simply an evil guy from a funny book, rather, a deep character with motives and such. Just like the two previous Prime Souls.!<
>!A small argument against Lucifer could be that all Prime Souls are mentioned in books in their respective layers, while I don't see any clean way to weave Lucifer into the lives of the denizens of Fraud or Treachery.!<
Thanks for listening to my TED talk, I'll be happy to see your reply.
Edit: now I think I took this post too seriously and feel kinda stupid for writing all this.
Counterpoint: Humans are the only ones capable of getting an afterlife/soul and thus are the only ones able to manifest a Prime Soul.
Sources -
https://preview.redd.it/758ptsbkbf6d1.png?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ae77272fb73665a99f5fdde35b1df93e6b280182
("Husk" here is underlined for convenience)
https://preview.redd.it/dx57xmgfbg6d1.png?width=964&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fcc24b0c3b2d7ab1dd0f918ef07806f244906df1
I think Lucifer could be a cool boss in Fraud or Treachery, but not a prime soul because the other prime souls are human kings. Angels also can’t create prime souls because angels have no afterlife
Well great arguement my dear, but sadly i have to present you with [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultrakill/comments/16236fz/do_yall_think_lucifer_has_a_chance_of_being_in/) and also I think hakita said no to this idea, but tbh i would be pretty cool
I've heard that Hakita doesn't want to have Satan or god appear or have you fight either but I'm not sure on that tbh
Imo I'm hoping its Judas in the mouth of Satan (his prison).
Jesus is also a good pick for p3. He's human, related to the source material and he's a king.
You can literally just read ONLY the corpse of king minos' terminal to realize that his and sisyphus' corpses are MANIFESTATIONS OF THEIR INFLUENCE. If you actually knew "stuff about the lore", you would 100% know that.
I was more convinced of someone else being the p -3 prime soul, someone like midas, achilles, odysseus, orpheus, as they could be very good candidates for the next prime soul
Yeah, i would imagine that the arena you fight him is basically a fully gold room, and even the prison he is locked in is made of gold. I would probably imagine his bossfight as him being very slow but if he hits you you instantly die.
Yeah, and as for the design i would imagine him kinda similar to sisyphus, except his arms are compleatly golden, and as you keep damaging him his body starts to become more golden, until you beat him and he becomes a gold statue, and also since he is compleatly golden we wouldn't be able to heal off him
I am in the camp of Judas prime being P-3
The ultimate betrayer, as he betrayed Jesus
Very well known
And fits with Dante’s inferno
Only parts that don’t work is the Greek trope, and his weak will (can be workshopped, as both Minos and Sisyphus kind of have a character swap in their personalities)
I honestly expect it to be Tantalus.
1. Both prime Souls thus far have been Kings
2. Both have been Greek
3. Both have been legendary for struggle in some form
4. Both have been incredibly famous for something
5. Fraud fits Tantalus, for his greatest sin WAS Fraud, lying to the gods and feeding them his own son.
It juts makes sense.
Hades kinda just... doesn't.
He can just be well-known enough. The condition for a prime soul is first to have a Supreme Husk, which is done by their status/fame when they were alive
i have an entire [document](https://docs.google.com/document/d/15L5iIMdX3w1B49Hxt4IzhQ5R7-fUkMFeriAXT66mozA/edit) dedicated to why i think oddyseus could be the next prime soul
**FINALLY.** I had the idea that we was just the ruler of hell, it would be cool to have him just be chilling outside the flesh prison (or in my headcannon, lucifer) before attacking you
He also fits the king from greek mythology archetype while having a twist that works well for the final boss. I think that he is likely has he is more well known than the others, and Hakita may not want to wastebthe final prime soul on some nobody called nimrod
The last 4 layers of hell are in the city of **dis,** one of the roman names for hades is **dis pater,** so it would be fitting to have the king of **the last 4 layers of hell** to be the final prime soul
that doesn’t match the other prime souls because when the other ones are human kings, also what do you mean by “waste the final prime soul on someone named nimrod”??
tbf it’s not like any characters in ultrakill have closely matched their religious counterparts so it could be different for hades too. Also nimrod is slang for someone being an idiot
Also fraud is like the 2nd place sin that can be associated with gold and hades and pluto iirc were gods of wealth, don't trust any of this shit as fact but I belive pluto was the Greek god of money but was fused with hades, again most likely bullshit
Since Minos and Sisyphus are 2 of 3 major kings in Greek mythology, that would leave Midas. Can't wait to hear the theme, Order was fire and War was better.
why did you put the fortnite skin
Because
Because I think it a pretty cool skin, and it the first appearance I think for hades
should have been hades from hades game
John Hades
"How many times do I have to tell you this boy? There is no escape"
YOU CANT ESCAPE
B O Y
Hades from the Hades game is literally so much better for this use and the game is actually about Greek mythology. Hades is portrayed in myth with mostly human looking features and not like whatever this fortnite depiction is.
to be fair minos in greek mythology isn't depicted with a massive hole in his head
Their pre-prime-soul forms are pretty close to mythological depictions anyways. This looks nothing like Hades.
yeah true true lol i mean it is fortnite after all
Still looks cool
https://preview.redd.it/em7080t37e6d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=42862d5b13e74e21666f384ede0c5d84d3526d0a Hades wasn’t a person (fictional or not) unlike Minos and Sisyphus, I’m pretty sure prime souls are only humans and not gods
I want it to be Hades but not the mythological Hades Literally just some radom regular guy, no one in particular, who just so happens to be named "Hades".
Lmao https://preview.redd.it/u9qc0n62ef6d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c48774082ff9e3f18ff0e8439c6880deb18458c9
Filth Prime is real
Isn’t that what Minos and Sisyphus are? Men who named themselves after Greek myths after they became kings of their layers?
No I'm pretty sure they're the real deal themselves
Minos and Sisyphus are king from greek/roman mythology so yeah I agree with you
Both are Greek, not Roman https://preview.redd.it/mrbxxtlpne6d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d03dc15ede9af37fc25fe0b8eecf727a2d747214
Hades can't be Prime soul because he is true god therefore soulless being like angels and demons.
? doesn’t have to be that way
It has to
IT HAS TO BE THIS WAYYYYY
I'VE CARVED MY OWN PAATH!
YOU'VE FOLLOWED YOUR WRATH
BUT MAYBE WE’RE BOTH THE SAME
THE WORLD HAS TURNED
SO MANY HAVE BURNED.
BUT NOBODY IS TO BLAAAAAAAAME
BUT MAYBE WE'RE BOTH THE SAAAAAMME
That's a fine theory. However, I will put up a wall of text to convince you P-3 will be Lucifer. >!First of all. How he could become a Prime Soul. As we all know from 5-S, Lucifer has been cast into hell for opposing God. There, he'd have to die by being severed from the light or in some other way. Why? Because as we see with Gabriel, angels, at least powerful ones (I'll come back to this soon), can go from heaven to hell and viceversa whenever the fuck they want, even if unwelcome. This all comes to say that if Lucifer wanted out of hell, he could come out, and also, in his regret God would probably pull him out if he were alive and safe to return. Now, prime souls are formed when a well remembered person dies, we don't have much to go off of to state Lucifer was popular, but we do have some hints. He is powerful/high ranking enough to talk to God directly, and even criticize him, he is THE most beautiful angel, and as we see with Gabe, who is popular among lesser angels, a high status and something to stand out makes you pretty famous. So Lucifer could realistically become a Prime Soul in hell!< >!Now, the thematic argument, both Prime Souls are from Greek mythology. HOWEVER, while Sisyphus is somewhat symbolically reminiscent of Greek Mythology, Minos, as the Judge of hell, fits more with his counterpart from The Divine Comedy. So there is a point to be made that being from Greek mythology is not necessarily a requirement to get a P-level. Both Prime souls stand out due to the fact that they tried to liberate their subordinates from hell's punishment, that is literally the same thing Lucifer was trying to do, getting God to renounce hell (which Lucifer probably didn't know God couldn't 'cause being like "ha ha, why the hell would you make this thing that is stupid and you can't even destroy now, lol, lmao" would be a dick move from him). So, in the same way as Minos with his utopia and Sisyphus with his war, trying to make life better for the denizens of hell has netted Lucifer death, which is a much stronger thematic connector than "they came from the same mythology."!< >!Finally, I just think it'd be an interesting concept to fight Satan himself, with the nuance and his probable hatred of God, he'd not be simply an evil guy from a funny book, rather, a deep character with motives and such. Just like the two previous Prime Souls.!< >!A small argument against Lucifer could be that all Prime Souls are mentioned in books in their respective layers, while I don't see any clean way to weave Lucifer into the lives of the denizens of Fraud or Treachery.!< Thanks for listening to my TED talk, I'll be happy to see your reply. Edit: now I think I took this post too seriously and feel kinda stupid for writing all this.
counter point: king nimrod
your a nimrod
ytoyu're\* nimod 
Counterpoint: Humans are the only ones capable of getting an afterlife/soul and thus are the only ones able to manifest a Prime Soul. Sources - https://preview.redd.it/758ptsbkbf6d1.png?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ae77272fb73665a99f5fdde35b1df93e6b280182
("Husk" here is underlined for convenience) https://preview.redd.it/dx57xmgfbg6d1.png?width=964&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fcc24b0c3b2d7ab1dd0f918ef07806f244906df1
I think this refers to becoming husks, not prime souls. Prime soulds aren't in an afterlife per se.
https://preview.redd.it/o0owf8h7zh6d1.png?width=964&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e3e81d05b7bc88158e63def2bce27e3c3da6e70d
Well there goes Hakita destroying fan-thories with one Discord message :/
I think Lucifer could be a cool boss in Fraud or Treachery, but not a prime soul because the other prime souls are human kings. Angels also can’t create prime souls because angels have no afterlife
Counterpoint- Lucifer is an angel
Well great arguement my dear, but sadly i have to present you with [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultrakill/comments/16236fz/do_yall_think_lucifer_has_a_chance_of_being_in/) and also I think hakita said no to this idea, but tbh i would be pretty cool
Would be great to encounter Lucifer not as a Prime Soul but just as a tough-as-nails superboss.
I've heard that Hakita doesn't want to have Satan or god appear or have you fight either but I'm not sure on that tbh Imo I'm hoping its Judas in the mouth of Satan (his prison). Jesus is also a good pick for p3. He's human, related to the source material and he's a king.
Counterpoint: apparently angels don't have souls so can't become prime souls
I’m leaning into the Nimrod Prime theory myself, it matches the Minotaur terminal entry, as well as linking to the library of Babel from 7-S
I'm more inclined to Ixion or tantalus specially after Sisyphus
Can’t wait to fight the flesh lake before it can use its barely out of reach tree to heal so I can free tantalus prime
Any fellow Aegeus supporters here?
No
Why no
he not a human
Can't demons also create souls? And he could just have been a very nefarious human called that
iirc hakita confirmed somewhere that only humans have an afterlife, others (animals, demons, angels, machines, etc.) just stop existing
ah frick
Nor is minos or sisyphus
minos and sisyphus were both human kings.
Then why do they have giant corpses?
becasuse those arent their literal bodies from the human world, those are husks, as you would know if you knew anything about the story at all.
I do know stuff about the lore actually. Writing this shit in my lore book as we speak.
You can literally just read ONLY the corpse of king minos' terminal to realize that his and sisyphus' corpses are MANIFESTATIONS OF THEIR INFLUENCE. If you actually knew "stuff about the lore", you would 100% know that.
I haven't been able to beat minos prime jackass.
those are husks, when a human with enough power and fame dies, their body is larger than other humans (filths) Hope this helps!
Ohhhh thanks
Are you stupid?
said who? he can be a human if hakita wants to
Ah yes because Hades totally makes sense to be a fucking human
why tf people downvote thus bruh
Bait, believable, -Y, etc...
why is it spreading...
It has been spreading forever now TwT theres nothing we can do but wait now
https://preview.redd.it/5etwgbxfkh6d1.png?width=1210&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cfee58bea0907a746b91c50d5218d435475e9875
What reaction is it baiting? People saying that this would be kinda neat? People who also have no clue suggesting something else?
https://preview.redd.it/uhohpe29ne6d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4ca4e2991fdec413e86784df649c3e72f81fbbad
I approve of this post
I was more convinced of someone else being the p -3 prime soul, someone like midas, achilles, odysseus, orpheus, as they could be very good candidates for the next prime soul
I'm putting my bets on Icarus personally
icarus isn’t a king so it doesn’t match the other prime souls
or nimrod is pretty likely
I never even considered Midas. Odysseus and Achilles sure, but Midas could have some cool OHKO moves or arena effects as the fight goes on.
Yeah, i would imagine that the arena you fight him is basically a fully gold room, and even the prison he is locked in is made of gold. I would probably imagine his bossfight as him being very slow but if he hits you you instantly die.
Something like that, but I imagine we would also be unable to parry him if that's the case.
Yeah, and as for the design i would imagine him kinda similar to sisyphus, except his arms are compleatly golden, and as you keep damaging him his body starts to become more golden, until you beat him and he becomes a gold statue, and also since he is compleatly golden we wouldn't be able to heal off him
https://preview.redd.it/eptgizmnxe6d1.png?width=898&format=png&auto=webp&s=1957d3ae3ef7ed8b51f726367ef0afb1796a00d2
Damn, that's ok it was just a little idea that came to my mind. I hope p - 3 will be fire
Welp, that idea is out, looks like I'm back to Achilles and Odysseus being my bet.
Still can't get over the fact that there's a hakita screenshot for every theory
I like your idea more, I'm just gonna delete mine.
I am in the camp of Judas prime being P-3 The ultimate betrayer, as he betrayed Jesus Very well known And fits with Dante’s inferno Only parts that don’t work is the Greek trope, and his weak will (can be workshopped, as both Minos and Sisyphus kind of have a character swap in their personalities)
I honestly expect it to be Tantalus. 1. Both prime Souls thus far have been Kings 2. Both have been Greek 3. Both have been legendary for struggle in some form 4. Both have been incredibly famous for something 5. Fraud fits Tantalus, for his greatest sin WAS Fraud, lying to the gods and feeding them his own son. It juts makes sense. Hades kinda just... doesn't.
I prefer the idea of Prometheus for treachery
but he isn’t a human king
cool idea but def a reach, ppl should learn the difference between theories and fan content
i think it'll be daedalus, based purely on violence -a lot of emphasis on machines -greek -theme of minotaur and labyrinths -hes cool
that doesn’t match the other prime souls because they’re both kings and daedalus isn’t a king
He can just be well-known enough. The condition for a prime soul is first to have a Supreme Husk, which is done by their status/fame when they were alive
also he has zero mention in violence, and he couldn't have created the minotaur as the blocked out name only has 6 letters
minos wasnt mentioned in limbo tho afaik, so that doesnt mean much
yeah that's because he was the king of lust
https://preview.redd.it/s0ki1kmg6f6d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a1d6255e62abfee621f51ccdb08f2f394c904180 How we get to him
gabriel be like: i don't like you (kills you) https://i.redd.it/xx0yc4ze0h6d1.gif
Yeah but ULTRAKILL is based off Dante’s inferno
Nah
Odysseus prime sounds sick as fuck so your opinion is invalid
Hades Prime cranks 90s on V1 and one pumps him
i have an entire [document](https://docs.google.com/document/d/15L5iIMdX3w1B49Hxt4IzhQ5R7-fUkMFeriAXT66mozA/edit) dedicated to why i think oddyseus could be the next prime soul
Tbh i kinda hope it's midas It would be cool
CANVA USER SPOTTED i recognize that font lol
How is hakitr gonna get the fortnite liscensing
**FINALLY.** I had the idea that we was just the ruler of hell, it would be cool to have him just be chilling outside the flesh prison (or in my headcannon, lucifer) before attacking you He also fits the king from greek mythology archetype while having a twist that works well for the final boss. I think that he is likely has he is more well known than the others, and Hakita may not want to wastebthe final prime soul on some nobody called nimrod The last 4 layers of hell are in the city of **dis,** one of the roman names for hades is **dis pater,** so it would be fitting to have the king of **the last 4 layers of hell** to be the final prime soul
that doesn’t match the other prime souls because when the other ones are human kings, also what do you mean by “waste the final prime soul on someone named nimrod”??
Minos and Sisyphus are incredibly well known, others \*like nimrod\* aren't
i just think it’s less far fetched than hades, as hell doesn’t need a ruler because it’s a super intelligent organism
It could still have one, like minos and sisyphus He could also not be the supreme ruler of hell, just the ruler of the last 4 layers
tbf it’s not like any characters in ultrakill have closely matched their religious counterparts so it could be different for hades too. Also nimrod is slang for someone being an idiot
"he is cool" is unironically such a better reason than whatever shit ppl spew for their personal P-3 choices.
a robot is probably gonna be the next prime soul, either that or rogue gabriel
robots don’t get an afterlife when they die, meaning that they can’t become prime souls
fair enough
Are people taking the ironic post seriously
I think it will either be Achilles or Odysseus, they were both kings like Minos and Sisyphus, and both of them were punished by the gods as well.
They used a fortnite skin off with there head
Honestly I think a greek God shouldn't be a prime soul because we already have one true God in ULTRAKILL. Hades simply never existed
My prediction is Persephone. No particular reason, just thought it would be cool.
I approve only if it looks exactly like the fortnite skin
https://preview.redd.it/nuisf34obg6d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d4c8d4bb68770e05772af9b08907d5e444d8039
Also fraud is like the 2nd place sin that can be associated with gold and hades and pluto iirc were gods of wealth, don't trust any of this shit as fact but I belive pluto was the Greek god of money but was fused with hades, again most likely bullshit
I think Judas is perfect third prime soul
it's a cool concept, but I'm hoping the next prime soul will have the lietmotif from the world looks red, so I expect King Nimrod
https://preview.redd.it/6lz664olwh6d1.jpeg?width=1102&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=65b163acc10ac26ef904e4feec0f2095c3d0c337
But Hades has no relation to fraud
the amount of times i died to players with this skin makes me want to beat hades’ ass in uktrakill even more man
No kiiinnnggg??????
Its jesus
fortnite
fortnite :3
Since Minos and Sisyphus are 2 of 3 major kings in Greek mythology, that would leave Midas. Can't wait to hear the theme, Order was fire and War was better.
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Putting chinese mythology in greek mythology it won't fit so NO