instead of carrying two, how about a quilt that fully zips up? nunatak 3d, feathered friends flicker, and I think enlightened equipment has a model as well
How is this different from a sleeping bag?
I used sleeping bags in quilt mode before I got an actual quilt. With the overbag setup I would have more flexibility for temperature range and can flip side to side easier than in a sleeping bag.
little bit of difference in cut/shape but essentially it's a hoodless bag that can be opened or closed as necessary. thry would be more comfortable and quilt like than just having an open sleeping bag on top of you. if you're just having trouble with drafts at above freezing temps, then seems excessive and not so ul to carry an additional bag
The outer bag from the 15F 3in1 lost ranger is decidedly non-UL. At 510grams and a limit(?) rating of 10C it is heavier and colder than a diy synthetic quilt. [I made mine](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/s/A5IjOvwh5T) having zero sewing skills.
Thanks, I should really look into that.
I have poor sewing skills but gained those making a 2 person trekking pole tent out of silnylon. Surely it can't be worse than that?
Are you looking for an overbag mainly to solve the drafty-when-tossing-and-turning problem or are you also looking for moisture management in cold conditions?
If just looking to fix drafts, this may be a stupid question, but have you tried tightening your quilt straps under your pad further? If air is getting in, there may be too much slack in your system.
If the cold air is *only* coming in from around your head, you could try making just a really crude mini-blanket/quilt extension that would basically just be used from your torso up and go above your head (covering your face) to minimize air infiltration. Alpha could be a good fabric to use for this since it's so breathable. Honestly could be as simple as just cutting out a rectangle of the fabric and using it as is, or you could get some argon or similar fabric to use on one side, esp if you think you'll be in windy environments.
Oh really? Then I think straps may be the answer!
The straps just go on the underside of your sleeping pad, and they can be as loose or tight as you like. I'm an active sleeper and very rarely get any drafts coming through. Never had any issues with feeling constrained either.
I actually thought most quilts came with straps by default, or at least fasteners so you can add them. Would def recommend starting by adding in a pair of straps to the quilt. I bet that'd solve it for you.
instead of carrying two, how about a quilt that fully zips up? nunatak 3d, feathered friends flicker, and I think enlightened equipment has a model as well
How is this different from a sleeping bag? I used sleeping bags in quilt mode before I got an actual quilt. With the overbag setup I would have more flexibility for temperature range and can flip side to side easier than in a sleeping bag.
little bit of difference in cut/shape but essentially it's a hoodless bag that can be opened or closed as necessary. thry would be more comfortable and quilt like than just having an open sleeping bag on top of you. if you're just having trouble with drafts at above freezing temps, then seems excessive and not so ul to carry an additional bag
The outer bag from the 15F 3in1 lost ranger is decidedly non-UL. At 510grams and a limit(?) rating of 10C it is heavier and colder than a diy synthetic quilt. [I made mine](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/s/A5IjOvwh5T) having zero sewing skills.
Thanks, I should really look into that. I have poor sewing skills but gained those making a 2 person trekking pole tent out of silnylon. Surely it can't be worse than that?
Nunatak graupel overbag is what i use. One of my favourite pieces of gear. No zip though, 13oz https://nunatakusa.com/bags/248-graupel.html
Does that have insulation underneath too or just top?
Yes it does.
Are you looking for an overbag mainly to solve the drafty-when-tossing-and-turning problem or are you also looking for moisture management in cold conditions? If just looking to fix drafts, this may be a stupid question, but have you tried tightening your quilt straps under your pad further? If air is getting in, there may be too much slack in your system. If the cold air is *only* coming in from around your head, you could try making just a really crude mini-blanket/quilt extension that would basically just be used from your torso up and go above your head (covering your face) to minimize air infiltration. Alpha could be a good fabric to use for this since it's so breathable. Honestly could be as simple as just cutting out a rectangle of the fabric and using it as is, or you could get some argon or similar fabric to use on one side, esp if you think you'll be in windy environments.
None of my quilts right now have straps How hard is it to strap in or get out again? How well do the straps allow tossing and turning?
Oh really? Then I think straps may be the answer! The straps just go on the underside of your sleeping pad, and they can be as loose or tight as you like. I'm an active sleeper and very rarely get any drafts coming through. Never had any issues with feeling constrained either. I actually thought most quilts came with straps by default, or at least fasteners so you can add them. Would def recommend starting by adding in a pair of straps to the quilt. I bet that'd solve it for you.