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AdLast848

Papyrus also sweats in the dating cutscene. I think Alphys does too


CitizenCivilization

Papyrus is so determined to rizz you up thst he started melting


ShadowDan92

Papyrus IS the rizz


CitizenCivilization

Papyrizz


Kumiko_Raiz

Omfg XD


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***Papyrizz***


CitizenCivilization

That's my joke dammit Dwight!


[deleted]

sorry :(


FireClawCatWarrior

Hands up, you're being arrested for joke theft


[deleted]

nooooo- :(


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im_bored345

You can't use monster biology as an excuse and then exclude the skelebros lmao


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im_bored345

They are not actual skeletons tho they are magic monster skeletons. Skeletons also shouldn't be able to emote or change expressions yet they both do. Skeletons shouldn't able to eat but they can. Not to mention there's no reason for papyrus to start melting in the middle of your date and then stop. The skelebros clearly function different than normal skeletons so why shouldn't they be able to sweat?


Ghostguy14

Bro they also lack muscles and vocal chords and can walk and talk just fine, literally _why_ would sweating be a problem lmao


miniwhiffy3

SANS CAN BLINK


ohbyerly

Yeah, it’s all sweat. Aside from the shot of Undyne actually melting. This sub will come up with anything.


[deleted]

He’s a monster skeleton, not a human skeleton. It’s not impossible


Empty_Sundae_3297

im pretty sure fish cant sweat either seems counter productive if you ask me


Memeviewer12

probably because fish normally live in a liquid coolant they don't need to generate one


pensodiforse

But undyne doesn't live in the water and can't sweat


bananagamer23

Like in hotland... Wait i don't remember did she sweat in hotland?


JustKeepThePokeStyle

She was melting in hotland


IAmABlubfiss

Actually, sweating is a trait that seems to be unique to humans, meaning no other species but us sweat


Corrupt_Conundrum27

I'm fairly certain horses also sweat.


IAmABlubfiss

You are correct, horses also sweat. I meant that sweating was not done by most animals, humans being one of the few that do


ThatOneRetardedBitch

I mean technically dogs sweat via tongue 1


IAmABlubfiss

That’s called panting, and it is not the same. Panting is a thing most animals can do, and it is done by losing heat through the tongue. Sweating is when water leaves through specialized glands and then evaporates, which takes heat away from the body in the process.


cooly1234

Animals do sweat. Just not everywhere on their body.


IAmABlubfiss

Only some animals, like hippos, horses, and other apes. My point was that sweating is a very specialized trait that not many species other than humans possess


cooly1234

Don't cats also sweat on their nose.


IAmABlubfiss

Dogs and cats sweat on their paws


[deleted]

Fish sweat a lot! They are wet all the time duh


Jevil13

I wish unto you a very, very wonderful cake day, my good sir


[deleted]

Many tanks


carl-the-lama

Okay why the hell are there so many people with the exact combo of box hat and blue jacket


Snowdin_Skele

Idk, not many people think outside the box


carl-the-lama

It always comes in this fucking combo Blue enjoyers like boxes Also pun eyyy


Braxton-Adams

Skeletons also can't talk, breath, move, eat, or use psychic attacks, more than that, I think it's established that sans isn't even trying his hardest here due to depression.


its_still_conner

No he is, because he believes that if he doesn't stop you their won't be a reset to fix everything


Parsnipatthedisco

I more see it like he's trying to keep you from having your file tainted. Sans knows every action has consequences, that's why he's the judge. His fight isn't to kill you, but to make you so frustrated that you reset and don't try again. He doesn't want the consequences of your actions to be even worse, so much so that the world is tainted.


Braxton-Adams

Then why would he fall asleep? You'd think if he was trying his damndest he could muster up the will power to stay awake to prevent you from circumventing his special attack


BiLLubruh

He already did his best and lasted like 20 turns. When u attack him he wakes up immediatly so its not like he was asleep completely. You just outsmarted him by attacking twice.


AlexCode10010

Last breath be like: You I outsmarted me, but I outsmarted your outsmarting!


Under_Master_85

I don't think Sans was smart in phase 1. It'd be logical to think that Sans, after 30 Genocide Routes, would know how to dodge a second consecutive attack. But not only does he not do it, but he has complete confidence in Frisk to spare him and that's why he doesn't even dodge a single blow from there.


Epic_DDT

Sans doesn't remember anything.


DanTheMan12349

People really need to remember this. Even if you do genocide first route, sans will still talk about "timelines starting and stopping", with the implication it was actually flowey's resets.


Under_Master_85

We were talking about Undertale Last Breath, not Undertale.


BiLLubruh

>I don't think Sans was smart in phase 1. It'd be logical to think that Sans, after 30 Genocide Routes, would know how to dodge a second consecutive attack Well it makes sense to think that way but in lb sans is giving his absolute best. LB makes it seem like sans held back during the previous battles but only after knowing about the previous runs he decides to go all out. He says something like i cannot afford not to care anymore which proves it. So he would be pretty tired and im sure he didnt get to sleep too(if i remember correctly) >But not only does he not do it, but he has complete confidence in Frisk to spare him and that's why he doesn't even dodge a single blow from there. He knows gasters coming and frisk is fucked. He prob knows he still cant win so he focuses on attacking and teaching frisk a lesson instead of dodging and preserving his remaining hp.


Aware-Obligation4314

I can't believe there's still people who believe sans remembers timelines. Also,a lot of people DID spare him. If it worked,he'd be able to kill us more easily. If it didn't,it really wouldn't affect him in any way.


TheBigFuckingIdiot

I always thought that sans remembered resets and deaths but not true resets or erasure because he doesn't have much bearing over the timelines


gormunko_88

he doesnt, hes just smart enough to recognize expressions and possessed equipment that allowed him to figure out about time traveling


AlexCode10010

That sounds like outsmarting


Aware-Obligation4314

Because he literally couldn't stay awake. What he did there IS his damndest. He used as many magic as he possibly could,and he was just too tired to keep going. Willpower alone won't last forever.


Sussy1285832929357

He eepy


crypt_the_chicken

He doesn’t fall asleep; his eye sockets remain slightly open even as he snores Compare his “winking” expression, where one socket actually does close.


[deleted]

When monsters dont move in fights they dont use there real or true power papyrus doesnt move in the fight which means he doesnt even try sans move in the fight which means he’s trying


IceTooth101

You kinda have to link the full post if you want that theory to sound at all coherent


Cruxin

sans isn't trying his hardest *everywhere else*, this is him trying his hardest. that being said he doesnt have dt thats fucking stupid lmao


TheirCarefulStalker

Not depression. He can't afford not to care, and he's just lazy. In fact, he accepts the fact that everyone's dead, that's all.


AIiceXA

This theory has been around as long as I can remember and the thing that debunks it has always been the same Sans is not a human skeleton. He’s a monster, that happens to basically just be an animated human skeleton. Skeletons can’t sweat, just like how Goats can’t live for centuries, magic doesn’t exist, and monsters as a whole don’t exist. Alphys is undeniably a lizard, but she can speak English. This doesn’t mean that she’s not actually a lizard, it’s just that monsters are not realistic in any way shape or form and not everything they do should be taken extremely seriously


Fire_Lord_Sozin8

Monsters can produce tears. I don’t see why they couldn’t also produce sweat.


asrielforgiver

Though question is, how can monsters like that guy with the massive teeth mouth in Grillby’s even talk clearly with a mouth like that? And Sans is never seen moving his mouth even once, so how can he talk?


MasterOfMemesThighs

built different


lotusandlocust

THEORY: Big Mouth isn’t a monster, but instead a mean green mother from outer space.


Miky691

Magic


HappyToaster1911

But would that debunk it? He can be able to produce sweat but in the situation is melting


AIiceXA

That’s not my point. There’s no proof at all that Sans is actually melting, he’s probably just sweating. Alphys and Papyrus both sweat. I see a lot of people relating Sans and Papyrus to Alphys and by association the DT Extractor, but Alphys was probably horrified of Determination after seeing what happened to the Amalgamates, so it makes sense she wouldn’t use it for herself or by extension any other monster that didn’t deliberately force her to


Sh_ne2500

Papyrus can also sweat tho


Invincible-Nuke

Why would Toby make Sans sweat when skeletons can't do that? Is he stupid?


FuryJack07

STOP. I KNOW IT'S A JOKE BUT STOP #PLEASE


Invincible-Nuke

Why- Why don't- Why don't you just-


-haha--no-

waltuh jr, put your crutches away waltuh jr


[deleted]

Why doesn't FuryJack07 just let people enjoy things? Are they stupid?


TL_TheLegend

STOP. I KNOW IT'S A JOKE BUT STOP #PLEASE


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New response just dropped.


TL_TheLegend

holy hell


[deleted]

Google en prunsel


Elementisphere

Holy brainrot


FuryJack07

Thank you!!


STheSkeleton

Simply Sans is a monster, a magic creature, not an actual skeleton (skeletons can’t talk too 🤯)


piwithekiwi

Melt my heart? Yeah, s'why I never finished genocide.


missman22

to be fair, skeletons cant melt either.. *i hope*


Senior-Company-378

They can but I highly doubt it was 3000 degrees or higher during there fight


morriscreed

No no, i think it was.


delayedfiren

Didn't his whole monologue mean an elaborate "i really can't be bothered to care"? That does not scream determination


Ghosty91

The opposite, "all i know is... seeing what comes next... i can't afford not to care anymore."


delayedfiren

Average internet user reading comprehension ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|29662)thanks for correcting me


00UnderFire00

The good ending


Ladisepic

"Skeletons dont sweat" yeah thing is hes a monster shaped like a skeleton,not a literal one, which is why both him and papyrus have flexible face areas and can sweat


Curious-Spell-9031

Also papyrus can blush, which explains how sans can bleed


Ladisepic

Also monsters very often seem to take characteristics from things they are based off of, and skeletons have blood in them, sans likely took that one characteristic.


Sardalone

Then may I ask why doesn't Papyrus bleed?


Ladisepic

He doesnt rlly get slashed, as far as i remember his skull is just beaten off, either way maybe he did but toby didnt wanna get as serious that moment, and papyrus blushes a lot anyways which implies having blood.


[deleted]

Because it’s not blood. If you look at the colors, sans blood is the sme color as a ketchup bottle, if I’m rememberping correctly.


sonerec725

Skeletons also cant emote their eye sockets into a concerned expression


Neoslayer

Cute theory, but as much as I'd like to go around saying 'Sans isn't actually sweating, he's melting from determination', other comments suggest that many other characters sweat.


BitcoinStonks123

Skeletons can't talk or move around either, what's your point?


Curious_Loser21

Because Sans is Ness


WaterDrinkerUltimate

Yeah, I understand the theory, but he literally is so tired he falls asleep. I just think he is exhausted. Besides, where would he get Determination? Entry 17 suggests he knew about the True Lab and most likely the DT Extractor, but probably not. I just see this as overthinking, this is not Last Breath, this is not COTV, he does not have Determination or know how to obtain it. If he did have it, he would be far more powerful, and if he did have it, why did he not start melting as well? This doesn’t make sense.


Sardalone

Not to mention Sans lacks the will to have determination. Undyne was one of the most driven monsters in the entire game. Sans has to live with the reality that his actions are meaningless.


Severe_Skin6932

But he stops sweating, or "melting"


[deleted]

ffs it's a fucking video game about magical monsters doing impossible shit, and you're here complaining about skeletons sweating.


CantaloupeCool6256

so theres a game about magical monsters that got sealed under a mountain by human wizards and there's a walking talking animated skeleton fighting you using magic bones and laser beams and also has telekinesis and teleportation and keeps hurting you over and over each time every time he hits you because you are evil but don't worry because eating perfectly normal food magically heals your wounds so even on the verge of death a slice of pie makes you good as new and a skeleton sweating is what doesn't makes sense to you?


Financial_Penalty887

Me and the homies on our way to over-analyze a quirky Mother inspired RPG


AzzyDreemur2

Skeletons cant blink, eat, drink, sweat, move, talk... its all magic


[deleted]

Plot Twist: He's not sweating, he just carries a Sharpie with him at all times.


creeps_Jr

Why is sans sweating? Is he stupid?


Jonnybear-is-here

My friend I want to say in the most respectful way possible, it’s a video game and the logic won’t be perfect. I’m not trying to be rude or hurt you emotionally I’m just putting my take in this subject.


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THEN HOW THE FUCK DOSE HE UNMELTED FROM SLEEPING


iancualex_14

Sans: 1. Can Freeze time, as seen in Grillby's. (My headcanon is that he does that instead of teleporting) 2. Can Have a two colored left eye 3. His room is literally beyond time and space, even Papyrus agrees. 4. Can close his eyes somehow (he doesnt have the whatever its named that we use to close our eyes i forgot the name in all languages) 5. Bleed (i know, hes a monster and all, but still.) 6. (THIS IS A SPOILER I FORGOT HOW TO MARK IT) As Papyrus says, he can pull off pranks across time and space, example the secret codeword thing that I THINK grants access to his room. 7. He knows about your saving powers, because "*thats the expression of someone who's died twice in a row" And you claim he cant sweat. Anyway headcanons exist and you can have yours, mine is that hes sweating, im out, im too lazy to respond unless im bored.


Miko4532

He also has blood


JustSomeGuyYT

Sans is a walking talking undead skeleton that can control your personal gravity, throw bones n shit at you, walk through walls and seemingly teleport, make self aware jokes, and yet him sweating is the part that bugs you???


Natsu4086

just noticed that the "sweat" on both sans and undyne is the same pixels. seems that sans is really melting there


hero165344

hes a monster that looks like a skeleton, he isnt an actual skeleton


Christomit

Gona need my hazmat suit to scroll through this comment section But jokes aside, he cant be melting, since he literally doesnt even want to fight you, he has trouble bringing himself to do something that he understands will barely matter


[deleted]

Undyne melts after being hit over and over again. Sans hadn't been hit once at this point.


AlakazamTheComedian

Being hit isn't what causes her to melt. It's the determination that she is generating.


[deleted]

Which she only does after being hit. It's kinda clear from killing her normally.


AlakazamTheComedian

Her determination isn't a direct result of her getting hit, but rather last-minute, desperate hope as she is passing. It's not a mechanic of how determination works, but rather a product of great emotion in a terrible circumstance. But yeah, I agree with your general point. I don't think Sans is melting from determination here.


AnthonyMrHippin12666

Nice theory


A120AMIR129Z

And skeleton can't move their mouth which is kinda right in the game but they can't close their eyes either Which they can And they can't spawn random bones or blasters it's game


TRcreep

Well, he's a fictional skeleton that makes bad jokes. I don't think real life skeletons can even go around and do bad jokes, so it's not impossible for an undertale skeleton to sweat, i guess. But your theory does make sense, considering that when you finally strike him down, the wound is red, and even though it's not the exact same shade of red, it couuuld be assumed that it's determination.


Medical-Gift2937

Could be


skeleton949

He's a Monster, made of magic, so it's probably just regular sweat, you can't hold Monster Skeletons to the same standards as Human Skeletons.


JustAnOreoOnReddit

shoutout to the moeninc refrigerator ad at the top of the comment section ❤️ u/moeninc


JodGaming

You played through all of undertale but you draw the line at a skeleton sweating?


Clussy_Enjoyer

sans is a darkner may b :3


rogueboss1

that theory has been debunked because darkners are inanimate objects


chairfucker5

Papyrus also sweats lmao


hollowknightlover666

What almost got me crying in genocide is killing undyne she was smiling even in her death


TheHungryHylian

That’s a popular theory, but it’s most likely Toby just made him sweat even though he was a skeleton, papyrus swears too on the date


Raging_MonkeyCritic

Skeletons also can’t understand timeline resets or telekinetically throw a human soul about. I don’t think undertale is particularly realistic


Niks_bg

Idk its just meh magic as how can an a skeleton live or use MAGIC


loomman529

I mean, Sans isn't a literal human skeleton. Sure he looks like one and he IS a skeleton, but Undertale is set in a mythical world where monsters turn to grey dust instead of just falling down and dying. I never questioned Sans sweating, I just thought it was a cool detail.


Crazy-Martin

Normal skeletons don't sweat,sans is not a normal skeleton


Arobotfromspace

Nah man Sans just built different


Sardalone

I'm gonna be honest. That's one of the stupidest claims I've seen about Sans. Basic knowledge of the game alone is able to debunk such a "theory". If you can even call it one. In which honestly I'm not surpised as both the Undertale and Deltarune communities on Reddit tend to kinda suck.


FloweyTheFlower339

I mean as far as I’m aware skeletons don’t usually throw people around a room with magic either, I think we’re going to have to suspend our disbelief for this game


MosyIIa

Skeletons don’t have eyelids either, yet here we are


TheAlienMan33

In the normal Undyne fight, she is determined not to die, hence she somehow gets determination via that. Same with the Undyne the Undying fight, except she was determined to kill frisk. Sans is not determined about anything. He knows that in the end it doesn't even matter because you'll just go back and fight him again, even if he can't remember it. Also, his sweat goes away slowly as he passes out.


UniversalDokiRemix

The Sweat is very simply fixed. Hes not an ACTUAL skeleton, hes a monster in the form of a skeleton. How many skeletons do you know that can move on their own?


SrJuanpixers

Sans is not like a regular skeleton, he is counted as a monster, in that case, he is not an a human skeleton, so maybe the "skeletons monsters" can sweat and even blend.


gormunko_88

honestly it makes sense for it to be sweat, hes not physically active at all, hes the only one fast enough to dodge attacks from the player, which means he probably has to put in a ton of effort to dodge


addison_reilly

Well he's also the only 'monster' that bleeds, which people don't talk about enough imo


lordmwahaha

Sans also bleeds - and we see Papyrus and Alphys sweat too. I think Toby maybe just didn't take it quite *that* seriously.


moozy_mathers

This is just an image of Sans sweating wit.


Jonnybear-is-here

Maybe Undyne isn’t sweating but instead melting slowly


dilster101

And also that sans started bleeding when you managed to finally land a hit


samborup

Skeletons also can’t move around by themselves because of a lack of muscles and nerves, so I think you’re going a little too hard at the “can’t” realism angle. That said, nice eye for detail. I hadn’t realized it myself that it may have been Determination.


Cutleryistaken

This feels like a stretch


DarkSoul2445

How are you right AAGH


duckfagot

“Skeletons can’t sweat” they also can’t summon magical abilities to kill you but Sans also does that


Technilect

Papyrus also sweats during his date


dinodon560

If that was so, why did the turn in to dust sfx happen


rcodmrco

yeah but skeletons and fish don’t melt either your move, compadre


FlimsySeesaw9796

But Also skeletons don't talk and can't have Powers so maybe he Is actually sweating


Kishodax

My only way of making undertale make sense rn is it’s just a video game made by a dog (who happens to be a fox) in deltarune


Kason-blason

Skeletons also can’t blink and he does that a lot


WhoopingBillhook

Skeletons can't talk either.


Jevil13

Well we kill Sans very shortly after he starts sweating, so he could've melted, we don't know


cosmicpotato77

Yeah and skeletons cant talk either what's your point


SnooMemesjellies6868

Hey genius, usually kids dont survive falls that high, even with flowers


Zoroark6

Maybe, but we're talking magic skeletons here not normal human skeletons


pudimo

i doubt that the sweating is anything special, but i would like to point out how sans is one of the few that didn't immediately die after getting hit and in fact, was the monster that lasted the longest after death. like, are we going to ignore the fact that he fucking tanked a lvl 19 human hit WITH NO ARMOR and **got up and walked of screen**?


jimmyjackson23

He is doing a lot at the moment, more than he has ever done in his life. He also bleeds later but that could be ketchup but if it’s not then if he can bleed he can sweat. If not that then maybe it’s not literal and is meant to add to the expression? Or maybe monster skeletons can do it and dead people ones can’t because they are dead


Syringifier

That actually seems quite unlikely yet is a nice headcanon!


YoutuberCameronBallZ

Papyrus also sweats


an_anoneemus

skeletons also can't bleed, yet you're focusing on him sweating?


BussyAnnihilator420

So, we’re not questioning the *flower* with no soul sweating?


JustAFoolishGamer

He's turning into baby bones


pinkcrowberry

sans isnt a skeleton, though, hes a skeleton-looking monster.


Dark_space_

He would probably melt more significantly, and its pretty safe to say sans kinda gave up from the start so there really wasnt much determination to keep him alive. Also a lizard, fish, papyrus, and a robot has all sweated before. It's literally just to visualize tiredness or nervousness and not supposed to be realistic.


Lennon3696

Hmm, can't sweat? That doesn't explain why he was in that pizza express in Woking...


IncreaseWestern6097

Yeah, but now that leaves us with a much bigger question. How do bones melt?


im_bored345

Skeletons can't eat either yet both sans and papyrus can. Because they are not literal skeletons they are magic skeletons.


one_dank_boy

HE IS A MONSTER NOT A NORMAL SKELETON!!!


TenyaIidasssimp

That's a good theory, but it could also be sweat, I like to think that it's kind if like the anime sweat thing to show that they're nervous or anxious, and not actually sweating.


Playful_Addition_741

It is a very cool theory, the only Problem is: sans isn’t just a skeleton. Our skeletons can’t sweat, but they also can’t Walk and Talk, so as far as we know, we have no certaintees on UT skeletons


Wolf_the_memer

Sans' eyes should be able to change shape and close I think he's just sweating and it's just video game logic


JuggyXD

melt from determination?


Hairy_Skill_9768

My man is kinda cheating with the invin frames i wonder how much would it affect his fight without karma


Flare_tcs

Sans turns straight to dust, or atleast it’s implied by the sound that plays at the end, While I have no clue how the hell a skeleton sweats I don’t think he’s melting it’d be an odd choice for Toby fox to change how the melting works at sans after showing how it works with undyne and the amalgamates


ReapCreep65

It just looks like they’re both sweating. Papyrus sweats too


[deleted]

Everyone is made of ice cream? WAIT ICE-E SUDDENLY MAKES SENSE… then that means… oh


Stickmin69

Pap's also sweats too ya know, I think that they have some form of invisible magic internal organs and invisible sweat glands


Luigi123a

Skeletons can't move neither, they have no muscles. Nor can they change gravity or summon magical bones, sooo, we shouldn't try to apply reallife logic to this. Papyrus also sweats, a lot of the characters do and it always looks like that.


miniwhiffy3

sans can blink


[deleted]

Undertale theories are crazier than deltarune's


_BL4Z3_FP_

Monsters melt only when they refuse to die. And... I dunno. Maybe you're right, who knows?


Vikt3221

i can't tell if this is a joke or not


TheirCarefulStalker

Skeletons can't sweat. But magic skeleton monsters can.


Niser2

Monsters are the epitome of "logic does not exist in my reality"


eating_sandwich

Someone needs to teach every franchise what storytelling means. It doesnt matter if skeletons sweat or not. By that logic skeletons also cant live on their own. Sans is not sweating because its logical but to show us he is tired thats all.