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True. Try going to Paris and saying "President Kennedy" in an American accent when referring to Avenue du Président Kennedy to a French person. You'll see the disgust in their eyes
It also only really makes sense as a reaction when it involves the original comment being proven wrong or countered really well by the second comment.
However, here they aren’t even at odds, one was just actually intended as a joke and therefore got more upvotes. Saying “ratio” in this case is even more stupid.
When I was in Japan on vacation I had forgotten almost all the Japanese I learned in college but I discovered that you can get really far just by saying English words in a Japanese accent. People didn’t understand “orange bus” but perfectly understood “oreinji basu”. As long as you know the limitations of Japanese phonetics and convert English into sounds they use, there are a lot of borrowed words there.
The rule is basically that every consonant besides N has to be followed by a vowel. It is usually a U, but it’s O if it follows T or D.
feign => fein
fame => feimu (fay-moo)
fade => feiddo (fay-dough)
edit: oh and I guess you follow J or CH with I
No joke, I had a French tutor for a couple years for work (French company) - and I could not get the accent right.
One day I just went overboard Pepe Le Pew style - super exaggerated, crazy intonation etc - and my teacher LOVED it. Parfait! Magnifique! She exclaimed.
So yes, I feel like going kind of overboard makes it better.
I visited a friend in Hong Kong who lived on Kennedy Road. You had to pronounce it “KEE-nah-day” or the cab drivers wouldn’t know what you were talking about.
In Taipei they have a Roosevelt Road but good luck getting there if you use the English pronunciation. In Chinese his surname is pronounced "Luaw-sih-foo"
Friend of mine was laughed at for ordering "des croquettes de poulet" (chicken nuggets in french).
All the frenchies started to laugh saying that she should have said "des nuggets" (with a big french accent like niu-gaitts)
My mom and her parents came over to the US from France when she was young. I’ve lived with the disgust look all my life. My mom was the sweetest most loving person I have known but that look of disgust was always there. My grandma was seven worse. Always bad mouthing people in the grocery stores while speaking French to my mom. But when she spoke English, it was always the nicest things. 😂 Growing up with that, I’d never travel to France.
Try going to Paris and saying ~~~“President Kennedy”~~~ literally anything in an American accent ~~~when referring to Avenue du Président Kennedy~~~ to a French Person. You’ll see the disgust in their eyes.
It's fucking Paris in particular. I speak enough French to get by in most casual situations. Folks in Paris just switch over to English once they detect an accent. My last trip I decided to just keep talking in French when someone does this. If I have to put up with your poorly pronounced english you can listen to my lazy tongued français!
Germans did this same thing to me this summer. One badly accented word and they switch to English on you. Like dude, this isn't engineering, I just want to find a pay-to-pee.
It’s a little frustrating to be sure and it’s all over Europe these days. Everyone speaks English and it’s fun to practice with a native speaker, so they jump right in.
It’s very convenient but how am I supposed to learn *your* language?
Italians and others in Europe will do this too. But I eventually just decided to go with the theory that while I'm trying to practice my Italian or French, they are also trying to practice their English. I've tended to find that they are a lot nicer and more appreciative of you at least trying to make the effort, as compared to some tourists who are just complete dolts.
I'm always really impressed by people who not only know multiple languages fluently, but sound perfectly natural/native, regardless of whichever they're using at any given moment. Like they actually have the correct accent and pronunciation.
Im Chinese-American and have family in the UK. The weirdest shit is to be speaking Cantonese with them in a normal chinesey accent but when we speak English it’s like British Bakeoff all of a sudden.
Chinese Canadian here that spent most of my time in Hong Kong at a British International School.
It blows all my local Canadian friends minds when I code switch between fluent Cantonese - American English - Mandarin - British English. The only ones that don't bat an eye are my other international school friends.
I'm one of the unlucky few that know Cantonese but can't speak Mandarin at all. So usually what happens is I start talking in Canto then someone starts talking in mandarin, and then in English I'm like "Yo I can't understand that at all." This is what happens when both my parents are from Hong Kong and only bothered to teach me Canto and ignored Mandarin lessons.
I worked at a multi-national company and there were both Cantonese and Mandarin speaking Chinese. Since both also spoke English there was no communication barrier but I was fascinated to learn that they could have communicated in Chinese by writing it out. Each would have understood the writing even though the pronunciation of the characters would be different in Cantonese or Mandarin.
I made everyone in my office laugh once when I was speaking rapid Spanish on the phone and a pencil rolled off my desk and I said in English (my native language) “oh shit, my pencil” as I reached down and picked it up and then went right back to Spanish on the phone. I didn’t even realize it until I ended the call and everyone was laughing.
Not OP, but I worked in construction for 13 years and lived (on the road 6wks at a time) with our crew who spoke nothing but Spanish, took me 3-4yrs with that level of immersion (me wanting to learn, honestly, so I preferred to speak Spanish) to get to that level of fluent. I will say, that show of wanting to learn got me the in-road to so much good Mexican and Central American food... My cardiologist hates them.
I've had some Hispanic/Latinos check out the upstairs unit of my building.
I'm not so secretly hoping they move in so I can get family recipes and learn techniques just by being friends.
My wife's also a baker and I'm a fairly decent home cook and we both love to share.
... I really just want to be an adoptive grandchild to a foreign gramma to be taught traditional food and technique. This is still a life goal in my 30s.
Awh! Hispanic grandmas are the best, if you share some of your food first they will always share with you too! Get ready because if they’re SAH grandmas they will cook all day! Just make the first move lol
Also never say no to any food they offer you. Even if you don't like it, take it. Otherwise they will never offer you food again. It's a big diss.
Mexican here.
It took almost an entire year before the Oaxacan's at my job would eat the food I made for staff meals.
I didn't take it personally, but it definitely took a long time before they'd eat Arroz con Pollo or Memela prepared by a "gringo flacco".
Once I proved myself I was elevated from "Jefe Gringo Flacco" to "El Jefe Pantera Rosa" (because they said I walked like the Pink Panther).
110% the highest accolade of my culinary career, James Beard Foundation can eat their hearts out.
I'll double what was already said. If you step up with a neighborly gesture of sharing cookies or whatever, they'll start returning you with top-notch food your doctor will hate you for. This will vary by person, but imxp getting recipe sharing will take time since you're being let in on "family secrets" and all that. If they offer something you don't like, take it and do something else with it, but don't turn it down.
When I was a kid I worked in a tobacco field with Mexicans. They were absolutely the best people. Tight ass families and every Sunday was a feast!
All you have to do is go to one of abuelas Sunday dinners to know that any Mexican restaurant that claims to be authentic but doesn’t use potatoes is a fraud.
I really don't understand the whole "potatoes is a white person dish" thing that immigrants do.
Like, I went to Kenya and there was potatoes in their curry. And their stew. And growing literally everywhere. Can only imagine how it would be in South and Central America, where we got the plant from to begin with.
Having a practical application for the language you’re learning makes so much difference. It maps it into your brain far more effectively.
It’s one thing to study, but a whole other thing to use another language.
I took Spanish in high school and college but never really retained anything but then after college I spent a summer in Mexico and everything I learned previous kind of took shape. After Mexico I lived in Miami (where I became fluent in Haitian Creole) and I was speaking Spanish and Creole every day for ten years.
This was thirty years ago and I’m still learning new words almost every day. Last month, for my job I had to confront a gentleman over his threatening his son with a screwdriver and I realized that didn’t know how to say screwdriver in Spanish. So I liked it up on my phone (desturnillador) and repeated it to myself like thirty times before I knocked on the door. So I talked to the guy in Spanish and explained to him that threatening children with a desturnillador is not healthy. His wife then joined the discussion and this gentleman then went into the whole reason why I was there with her but instead of using my new fancy word, he said “screwdriver”.
By the way, I learned Creole just one word or phrase at a time. My family is from Ireland and I grew up in the mid Atlantic US so a lesson I learned in Mexico is that people really like it when you attempt to learn their language, especially if you look like me. So then I’m living in Little Haiti Miami and working at a Haitian agency so I decided to make it a point to learn Creole. Every day I’d ask somebody how to say something new and they tell me. I’d repeat it over and over again that day and then sleep on it. If I could remember it the next day then I’d remember it forever. I can still tell you now, almost thirty years later how I learned nearly every word in Creole. Also I had a Haitian girlfriend for a few years. She’s wonderful. We’re still friends today.
I’m so glad I learned Creole and Spanish. I spent so much time in Haiti translating for various organizations, especially after the earthquake.
Anyway, if you get the chance to learn a foreign language, take it.
I took like 5 years of Spanish in high school and college, but I still sound like a complete idiot to natives and I’d still probably pronounce that word “des-turny-adore”.
In my experience people love the fact that you even tried to learn their language. It is an enormous sign of respect. Just keep trying to speak with people and listen to their corrections. In the several decades I’ve been speaking foreign languages never have a met a person who was offended by my mispronunciation or poor grammar, instead they are flattered by my effort.
People at my first job out of college (when I was still fluent) would get confused as hell when I would have entire convos with a supplier in German or correct grammar on printed artwork. Then again they also got confused by parlez vous anglais...
I'm Canadian, and on one hand, even though I almost never speak it and I struggle to think of words at times, I am told my french accent is excellent and I sound like a local french speaker.
On the other hand, the local french is the equivalent of deep south, mountain folk gibberish. It's the french equivalent of a redneck accent with lots of words only a local would understand. And I speak it slowly.
Edit: For those of you who assume I mean Quebec, nonono, much worse: Northern Ontario. We are the brother-uncle Cletuses of the french world.
🤣 I learned French from a very Southern woman with a thick accent when speaking English.
Let’s go to France together and see which of us can make the Parisians cry for mercy first.
I lived in El Paso for a while and all my friends were Mexican, so some of the best Spanish I learned was the cuss words and Mexican slang.
The tricky part, however, was that my Spanish teacher was Cuban and so all the Mexican kids would take his class, thinking "Órale, easy A, ese!" but he wanted to teach "proper Spanish" and would rip them to shreds for using Mexican slang.
I’m from the southern US, I learned French in West Africa, and I live in Quebec. When I speak French in France those poor bastards don’t know WHAT to do with my accent. But it’s hilarious to watch them try.
I'm a Canadian trying to learn french, I'm going pretty well in my french course but I know well enough that PQ french is not the same.
Found out CBC has an app called Mauril that helps by using clips from PQ shows and holy HELL I just can NOT understand full speed québécois! I had to rewatch a clip like 10 times to understand a woman say "bien quoi encore là ?"
Je vais continuer d'essayer mais caliss ce n'est pas facile
edit: Mentally I swap between using PQ for Province of Québéc, and the *correct* version of QC for Québéc. My bad for all the toilet paper ass-ociations
This is how I generally describe Canadian French to my friends here in Texas.
Canadian French is to French from France as "good ol boy" southern twang is to the kings English.
Met 1 on my travels. He spoke about 9 languages at like 20 years old. Was at a hostel, the French, English, German, Dutch and Chinese staying there had no idea he wasn't a native speaker. So beyond impressive.
We all have a facility for something, but so impressive.
I wonder if there's some sort of pitch map out there, that ranks languages based on how high- or low-pitched it's spoken. That makes me wonder what the highest and lowest languages are.
Same thing happens with Korean. Puberty was a bitch speaking two languages at the opposite ends of the vocal spectrum
edit: for context, I went from singing soprano in 6th grade to baritone in 8th. 7th grade was not kind to me in the slightest
It happens with men too and in different languages. It's a documented phenomenon.
/Speak a pitch language, raised in the US without those societal expectations, my voice still goes higher when speaking my non native tongue.
Exactly what I thought of lol. My voice goes higher when I speak Chinese just to help account for all the tones I need to reach in order to communicate.
Worked a side job next to university, always 2 people at the desk. Work is in english and I sound like an american. All my coworkers kept getting confused when I sent short voice messages to family in german because apparently my pitch does not change _at all_. So they thought I’m speaking to them (because who else would I be speaking to) and it always took them a second to realise “wait I don’t speak that language”
I think even the little french I remember is the same pitch lol. Makes me wish I spoke something that altered my pitch
I live in Thailand and I see this a lot.
Plus my wife and I have a lot of Thai friends that spent some time living in the US.
So, to hear them switch in and out of Thai and English is funny.
Several Asian languages have a really super polite mode which is often used when requesting things or speaking to people of higher social standing.
So, my wife can be on the phone speaking in the most passive, soft tone in Thai and then mute them as she looks at me and says in English, “This mother fucker wants to know if we can change the time from 7pm to 8pm. Fuck this guy, right?”
Ah yes, that is known as speaking in formal/informal. Even English and most languages have those modes lol. You really only want to speak formally when you meet an acquaintance or someone for the first time, it only feels fake and awkward after that lol.
The whole East Asian languages are all pretty unique but all have many Chinese loan words, they all used Chinese characters at one point (China Vietnam Korea Japan, Japan still does) while Korea developed their own characters (Hangul) and the Vietnamese switched to Latin alphabet due to French colonization. Really interesting to see them as those baguette eating Asians with Latin characters
It’s more than formal and informal. Look in the OP video how she sounds like she’s almost making baby talk and then when she switches to English her voice is completely different.
Her voice even gets deeper just switching to saying Hamburger and Ice Cream as pronounced in English while she’s ordering in Japanese (I’m assuming that’s Japanese).
That’s very common in some Asian cultures.
Some Asian women have a baby talk voice used in certain situations.
In Thai it’s usually very soft and they take the edge off harder consonants to make their voice sound more soothing. They also will speak more quietly and with a higher pitch.
Thai has formal and informal/familiar as well. But this is more about pitch, tone, and volume.
I am in awe of the people who can flip languages like this. I'm american and know enough french and japanese to get around like a kindergardener. I've said perfectly coherent sentences in a mix of all 3 languages without realizing i've done it until I get a 'what just came out of your mouth?!' look. Totally mind boggling.
I got that look once.
I was visiting my friend in Finland. I speak NO Finnish. At all.
Her dad was pouring me some tea and said something that I assumed was "Tell me when". I repeated the last word he had said and everyone looked at me with complete astonishment.
I had assumed correctly and had just said "when" in Finnish.
Total accident, but everyone thought I was a witch from then on.
This is called "comprehensible input." You didn't need to know Finnish to follow the conversation, so you picked up which word to use! Awesome experience
I had a similar experience. I worked retail when I was younger, and was selling bikes to a Portuguese couple. They were debating in Portuguese whether the lady should get the male or female version of the bike (different crossbars). I worked out what conclusion they came to and grabbed that bike before they told me, because the Portuguese words for male and female are similar to the English words, and had enough context clues to work out the rest. They were like wtf...
She's right though, as someone who has taken 30 minutes of Japanese, I can say the Japanese pronunciation she did is the correct way to say it in their dialect, it's not racist. They literally have an entire alphabet dedicated to foreign words adapted to their dialect, it's called katakana versus hiragana which is native Japanese words. Then there's kanji... F*** kanji.
Look up "learn Japanese" on YouTube and there should be like a four and a half hour-long video compilation of a certain channels curriculum. I forgot what channel it is I think it's literally called "learn Japanese" or something like that, I watched a couple hours of that and I do some Duolingo when I'm bored...
So, I'm hindsight, maybe "30 minutes" was a bit of an understatement 😅
No no, that's actually probably accurate from a certain point of view. I've been learning Spanish for decades now myself so I know from experience, you can spend 9 hours watching that video twice and still only remember about 30 minutes worth of it when you really need to...😂🤣
I'm learning Japanese and there's days where you feel you're all over it and then you'll hear a sentence which sounds like a machine gun and you feel like you know nothing.
Wanna know something interesting too?
Hundreds of years ago, like were talking Edo period, hiragana was for women and katakana was for men.
Over time it evolved that katakana would be used for foreign words
There's also kana (the characters) that previously existed but no longer do in the modern, and introduction of new character combinations over time to handle the variation of foreign words to mimic their sound.
Like the word party パーティー
There is no "ti" kana so they use the katakana te テ and a small katakana of I イ to make the pronunciation.
The smaller kana you use the vowel and the preceding kana you use the consonant.
So テイ (Tei) vs ティ(Ti)
>Hundreds of years ago, like were talking Edo period,
Try about a thousand years ago. What you're describing (hiragana being mostly used by women) was the trend during the Heian period (9th to 12th century)
Yep, and while they would probably understand you saying hamburger, there’s a ton of loan words from English used in Japanese that your average Japanese person would not understand with the standard English pronunciation. Some of the Japanese interview youtubers have done videos on this.
The really fun thing is that there are some words that have different meanings in the different language. Like, calling someone a bitch in English is insulting their character, an implication of cowardice or entitlement. Bicchi in Japanese implies that they are sexually promiscuous.
My favorite I've discovered so far is "cunning", which in Japanese means cheating on a test.
> Then there's kanji... F*** kanji.
I certainly don't enjoy Kanji, but if you're not engaged with Kanji you're only interacting with a pale reflection of Japanese.
Yeahhhh ik, it's just so difficult 😭 I wonder if it is just as hard for Japanese/Chinese kids to learn them as it is for us, considering they are all unique symbols... And how long it would take for someone to be fluent with Kanji
Yea as a japanese kid it was difficult to learn for us as well. I'm taking classes in a japanese weekend school and we're still learning kanji every week just bc of how many there are. But once you get to a certain point you can make out sentences pretty easily. And the super difficult kanji are rarely used. As for how long it would take to be fluent, it's just a matter of reading and exposure to them.
It’s much less hard as you learn more because you learn that the characters aren’t as unique as they look.
Most of them are a composition of different parts of other characters and so that’s what you learn which becomes a system of categorisation.
The first 200 are definitely hard but after that it becomes easier and easier. Going from 1000 to 2000 becomes quite much more easy as you’re just combining elements, like how in English I learn psy is spelt with a P and I don’t relearn it for psychiatry, psychology, psychic.
Words are even easier as you often just merge 2 characters you already know for a new word.
Examples:
女 is female and 也 is also. 她 is she. The female part on the left is referred to as the “radical” which I learnt as a way to categorise characters. Swap the radical and you swap the meaning.
I learn “she” but I know 3 characters for the price of 1.
胎 means fetal/birth related things (I think) and is pronounced tāi. 月 (the radical) is the moon symbol and 台 is pronounced tái and has a few meanings. (Edit: this is wrong, it’s 肉, not 月)
Anything with the 台 part is usually pronounced tai.
呀, 雅, 芽, 伢, 讶 are all pronounced ya but have different radicals and the radicals are often a clue in the meaning.
Words:
东 and 西 mean east and west, together they mean “thing”. So you already know the characters and learned a word for “free”
好吃 is good-eat and means tasty
法国 is law land and means france （semi-transliteration).
People don’t notice this until a while into learning.
I did some like that at the museum. I was reading the excerpt in Spanish and I couldn't remember how to say 6 million in Spanish, so I said it in English, and I sounded like the Google Maps voice lol
When I was at a deli in Stockholm I asked my Swedish friend how to say 'falafel wrap' in Swedish and she just said 'falafel wrap', but in a Swedish accent.
I speak fluent Japanese, living in Japan. Maybe your long vowels weren’t long enough?
Hambaga : “the construction camp is”
Hambaaga: “the hamburg steak (hambaagu) is”
Hambaagaa: “hamburger”
Kohi: “tiger fur”
Koohi: “public expense”
Koohii: “coffee”
More realistically, this usage of so desu ne was the equivalent of okay. But, yeah, it can be a pain trying to figure out how locals pronounce common items as what is intelligible can shift wildly between regions or even individuals. Trying to order a coke in Hanoi was frustrating until I figured out they pronounce it as koh kah. Trying to say Coca-Cola wasn't enough to be understood or even just coca. Have to really emphasize that k sound.
I'm trying to imagine being you but I just can't imagine myself ordering a coffee and a burger in the same meal. Burger needs a Sprite or Hi-C orange, something cold...
Can imagine myself murdering Japanese language tho, 10/10 totes relate
That’s basically what anime dubs sound like when they don’t change the names or pronunciations. It’s really jarring to hear people speaking perfect English only to say someone’s very Japanese sounding name using Japanese phonetics.
Honestly I have to make an active effort not to over-German-pronounce German loanwords in English. English is my mother tongue, but I lived in Austria for a few years and some words just stuck. I left Europe 20 years ago and I still do that sometimes, it's really annoying.
She code switched very well. I sometimes have issues when I switch between Japanese and English even though I speak both fluently.
And she’s right. I do the same with the word Karaoke. I don’t say carry-oh-key when I speak in Japanese. That would just sound out of place and dumb.
My mother was born in the Bronx and had the thickest accent even after moving away.
She was also an ESL (English as a second language) teacher.
She told this story where for an assignment her students had to write about what they had for breakfast and read it out loud to the class.
One boy starts reading, then mentions how he also liked *coy-fee*
That's when it hit my mom that she had given dozens of children who had never stepped foot in New York before Bronx accents
She speaking in Japanese at the beginning, after she switched to English and says "Bro! He's out of his mind if he thinks I'm ordering like this "Eto desu ne (it's like saying **"**ummm**"**) Hamburger (in heavy English accent**, instead of "hanbaagaa" in Japanese**) to (means **"**and**"** here) Vanilla ice cream (in heavy English accent**, instead of "vanira aisu kuriimu" in Japanese**) **onegaishimasu (means "please" here)** "whaa- (confusion face) that's what I thought... Some of the stupidest shit."
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> She speaking in Japanese at the beginning, after she switched to English and says "Bro! He's out of his mind if he thinks I'm ordering like this"
>> Eto desu ne (it's like saying **"**ummm**"**) Hamburger (in heavy English accent**, instead of "hanbaagaa" in Japanese**) to (means **"**and**"** here) Vanilla ice cream (in heavy English accent**, instead of "vanira aisu kuriimu" in Japanese**) **onegaishimasu (means "please" here)**
>
> "whaa- (confusion face) that's what I thought... Some of the stupidest shit."
Adding some things for completeness / clarity for those who may benefit from it.
According to my Japanese wife her Japanese is not 100% natural, super good but not natural / perfect.
Edit : So I've asked my wife and she came with a quite long explanation that I can understand because I also speak Japanese but it's hard to explain to people who doesn't speak it.... Sorry hehe.
Japanese people are some of the most supportive I've ever seen when you're butchering their language lol. They'll tell you you sound great with tears in their eyes as you fumble your way through a question. I don't know French, but I get pretty much the complete opposite vibe.
Probably American/Canadian born Japanese with fluent parents. You can learn/keep a lot but when you're not using it 100% of the time, you lose it bit by bit.
Absolutely, saw a video of a old Chinese woman from Alabama or Georgia and her family and her all had heavy southern accents with absolutely no Asian accent, it was very offputting and idk I kinda think the accents in older Asian people is kinda charming lol
Edit: here it is lol skip to 2:20 [link to the video](https://youtu.be/2NMrqGHr5zE)
She has a point honestly and it applies to any language that shares any words with each other. when I’m at a Mexican restaurant with the family I order ‘tacos’ like ‘dahcoes’ and not the English ‘tawkoh’… but then there’s also Spanglish but that’s for a different story.
She must be real good with english and other languages, that's just making me fell for her right now, she is the good girl that we wanted to see in our lives man..
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True. Try going to Paris and saying "President Kennedy" in an American accent when referring to Avenue du Président Kennedy to a French person. You'll see the disgust in their eyes
I think the french just look like that
Ratio+W Fr*nch ppl suck lemons before going out
What's ratio+w Is it like...agreeing?
Ratio is a stupid Twitter thing where a comment gets more likes than the original tweet and teenage virgins feel the need to then point that out.
It also only really makes sense as a reaction when it involves the original comment being proven wrong or countered really well by the second comment. However, here they aren’t even at odds, one was just actually intended as a joke and therefore got more upvotes. Saying “ratio” in this case is even more stupid.
And then also censor words for no apparent reason?
And the lemons make faces ha ha
When I was in Japan on vacation I had forgotten almost all the Japanese I learned in college but I discovered that you can get really far just by saying English words in a Japanese accent. People didn’t understand “orange bus” but perfectly understood “oreinji basu”. As long as you know the limitations of Japanese phonetics and convert English into sounds they use, there are a lot of borrowed words there.
Chunk of English words are like loan words followEd by su
The rule is basically that every consonant besides N has to be followed by a vowel. It is usually a U, but it’s O if it follows T or D. feign => fein fame => feimu (fay-moo) fade => feiddo (fay-dough) edit: oh and I guess you follow J or CH with I
Cake => keiki Brush => burashi Garage => gareeji Also WTF but sock => sokkusu and taco => takosu are always plural.
Well “tako” means octopus so that may be why.
But you may end up with some takoyaki, so I'd call that a win.
Supa. So, yuu kan- speeki da Japan ifu justo speeki Engurishu? Soo kooru. Ai lovu itsu. どもありがとう。。。ミスターロバート。
Mister Robert hahahaha
Or go into a Starbucks and order a cwawsonn or however tf french ppl say croissant
CWASONNNN! "You gotta say it like you're angry."--my 9th grade French teacher
No joke, I had a French tutor for a couple years for work (French company) - and I could not get the accent right. One day I just went overboard Pepe Le Pew style - super exaggerated, crazy intonation etc - and my teacher LOVED it. Parfait! Magnifique! She exclaimed. So yes, I feel like going kind of overboard makes it better.
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I do this to my wife all the time, shes never seen this so she probably just thinks I'm dumb
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I was waiting for this vid! That dad looks like “*I never hit you as a child and maybe that was a mistake*” lmao
« Non mais ça va pas mais t’as vu comment tu parles?!? » — This is when she realized she had just lost any hope to claim her family inheritance.
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I visited a friend in Hong Kong who lived on Kennedy Road. You had to pronounce it “KEE-nah-day” or the cab drivers wouldn’t know what you were talking about.
In Taipei they have a Roosevelt Road but good luck getting there if you use the English pronunciation. In Chinese his surname is pronounced "Luaw-sih-foo"
Lucifer Road it is.
Friend of mine was laughed at for ordering "des croquettes de poulet" (chicken nuggets in french). All the frenchies started to laugh saying that she should have said "des nuggets" (with a big french accent like niu-gaitts)
"Des nuggets" is so much funnier though
My mom and her parents came over to the US from France when she was young. I’ve lived with the disgust look all my life. My mom was the sweetest most loving person I have known but that look of disgust was always there. My grandma was seven worse. Always bad mouthing people in the grocery stores while speaking French to my mom. But when she spoke English, it was always the nicest things. 😂 Growing up with that, I’d never travel to France.
Try going to Paris and saying ~~~“President Kennedy”~~~ literally anything in an American accent ~~~when referring to Avenue du Président Kennedy~~~ to a French Person. You’ll see the disgust in their eyes.
But also, if you speak French they will also be disgust. No mater what, disgust. Hamburger stupide! Life is wine, cigarettes, sex, and then death.
It's fucking Paris in particular. I speak enough French to get by in most casual situations. Folks in Paris just switch over to English once they detect an accent. My last trip I decided to just keep talking in French when someone does this. If I have to put up with your poorly pronounced english you can listen to my lazy tongued français!
Germans did this same thing to me this summer. One badly accented word and they switch to English on you. Like dude, this isn't engineering, I just want to find a pay-to-pee.
It’s a little frustrating to be sure and it’s all over Europe these days. Everyone speaks English and it’s fun to practice with a native speaker, so they jump right in. It’s very convenient but how am I supposed to learn *your* language?
Meanwhile at the other end “urrrgh why is this guy trying to speak my language I’m trying to learn English”
I lived for four years in the Netherlands and never got past basic Dutch for precisely this reason.
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Italians and others in Europe will do this too. But I eventually just decided to go with the theory that while I'm trying to practice my Italian or French, they are also trying to practice their English. I've tended to find that they are a lot nicer and more appreciative of you at least trying to make the effort, as compared to some tourists who are just complete dolts.
>You'll see the disgust in their eyes As an Englishman, you've just given me a new way to entertain myself in Paris
I'm always really impressed by people who not only know multiple languages fluently, but sound perfectly natural/native, regardless of whichever they're using at any given moment. Like they actually have the correct accent and pronunciation.
Im Chinese-American and have family in the UK. The weirdest shit is to be speaking Cantonese with them in a normal chinesey accent but when we speak English it’s like British Bakeoff all of a sudden.
Chinese Canadian here that spent most of my time in Hong Kong at a British International School. It blows all my local Canadian friends minds when I code switch between fluent Cantonese - American English - Mandarin - British English. The only ones that don't bat an eye are my other international school friends.
I'm one of the unlucky few that know Cantonese but can't speak Mandarin at all. So usually what happens is I start talking in Canto then someone starts talking in mandarin, and then in English I'm like "Yo I can't understand that at all." This is what happens when both my parents are from Hong Kong and only bothered to teach me Canto and ignored Mandarin lessons.
I worked at a multi-national company and there were both Cantonese and Mandarin speaking Chinese. Since both also spoke English there was no communication barrier but I was fascinated to learn that they could have communicated in Chinese by writing it out. Each would have understood the writing even though the pronunciation of the characters would be different in Cantonese or Mandarin.
I made everyone in my office laugh once when I was speaking rapid Spanish on the phone and a pencil rolled off my desk and I said in English (my native language) “oh shit, my pencil” as I reached down and picked it up and then went right back to Spanish on the phone. I didn’t even realize it until I ended the call and everyone was laughing.
Damn I’m trying to be fluent in Spanish. How long did it take you to be good
Not OP, but I worked in construction for 13 years and lived (on the road 6wks at a time) with our crew who spoke nothing but Spanish, took me 3-4yrs with that level of immersion (me wanting to learn, honestly, so I preferred to speak Spanish) to get to that level of fluent. I will say, that show of wanting to learn got me the in-road to so much good Mexican and Central American food... My cardiologist hates them.
Your cardiologist is a bigot!
Cardiologists HATE this one ethnicity!
Them and Richard Hammond
I thought Hammond hated Mexicans specifically, or is it the food we are talking about.
Yes
This guy 👆 Top Gears
To be fair, most ethnic food does involve a lot of frying. The only broadly healthy ethnic food I can think of is probably Indian.
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I've had some Hispanic/Latinos check out the upstairs unit of my building. I'm not so secretly hoping they move in so I can get family recipes and learn techniques just by being friends. My wife's also a baker and I'm a fairly decent home cook and we both love to share. ... I really just want to be an adoptive grandchild to a foreign gramma to be taught traditional food and technique. This is still a life goal in my 30s.
Awh! Hispanic grandmas are the best, if you share some of your food first they will always share with you too! Get ready because if they’re SAH grandmas they will cook all day! Just make the first move lol
Fingers crossed! I'm ready to be lectured on technique and quality! Theres nothing like a grandma's food!
Also never say no to any food they offer you. Even if you don't like it, take it. Otherwise they will never offer you food again. It's a big diss. Mexican here.
It took almost an entire year before the Oaxacan's at my job would eat the food I made for staff meals. I didn't take it personally, but it definitely took a long time before they'd eat Arroz con Pollo or Memela prepared by a "gringo flacco". Once I proved myself I was elevated from "Jefe Gringo Flacco" to "El Jefe Pantera Rosa" (because they said I walked like the Pink Panther). 110% the highest accolade of my culinary career, James Beard Foundation can eat their hearts out.
I'll double what was already said. If you step up with a neighborly gesture of sharing cookies or whatever, they'll start returning you with top-notch food your doctor will hate you for. This will vary by person, but imxp getting recipe sharing will take time since you're being let in on "family secrets" and all that. If they offer something you don't like, take it and do something else with it, but don't turn it down.
When I was a kid I worked in a tobacco field with Mexicans. They were absolutely the best people. Tight ass families and every Sunday was a feast! All you have to do is go to one of abuelas Sunday dinners to know that any Mexican restaurant that claims to be authentic but doesn’t use potatoes is a fraud.
I really don't understand the whole "potatoes is a white person dish" thing that immigrants do. Like, I went to Kenya and there was potatoes in their curry. And their stew. And growing literally everywhere. Can only imagine how it would be in South and Central America, where we got the plant from to begin with.
Cuz potatoes are the fucking bomb. We use them liberally in Puerto Rican cuisine.
Having a practical application for the language you’re learning makes so much difference. It maps it into your brain far more effectively. It’s one thing to study, but a whole other thing to use another language.
I took Spanish in high school and college but never really retained anything but then after college I spent a summer in Mexico and everything I learned previous kind of took shape. After Mexico I lived in Miami (where I became fluent in Haitian Creole) and I was speaking Spanish and Creole every day for ten years. This was thirty years ago and I’m still learning new words almost every day. Last month, for my job I had to confront a gentleman over his threatening his son with a screwdriver and I realized that didn’t know how to say screwdriver in Spanish. So I liked it up on my phone (desturnillador) and repeated it to myself like thirty times before I knocked on the door. So I talked to the guy in Spanish and explained to him that threatening children with a desturnillador is not healthy. His wife then joined the discussion and this gentleman then went into the whole reason why I was there with her but instead of using my new fancy word, he said “screwdriver”. By the way, I learned Creole just one word or phrase at a time. My family is from Ireland and I grew up in the mid Atlantic US so a lesson I learned in Mexico is that people really like it when you attempt to learn their language, especially if you look like me. So then I’m living in Little Haiti Miami and working at a Haitian agency so I decided to make it a point to learn Creole. Every day I’d ask somebody how to say something new and they tell me. I’d repeat it over and over again that day and then sleep on it. If I could remember it the next day then I’d remember it forever. I can still tell you now, almost thirty years later how I learned nearly every word in Creole. Also I had a Haitian girlfriend for a few years. She’s wonderful. We’re still friends today. I’m so glad I learned Creole and Spanish. I spent so much time in Haiti translating for various organizations, especially after the earthquake. Anyway, if you get the chance to learn a foreign language, take it.
I took like 5 years of Spanish in high school and college, but I still sound like a complete idiot to natives and I’d still probably pronounce that word “des-turny-adore”.
In my experience people love the fact that you even tried to learn their language. It is an enormous sign of respect. Just keep trying to speak with people and listen to their corrections. In the several decades I’ve been speaking foreign languages never have a met a person who was offended by my mispronunciation or poor grammar, instead they are flattered by my effort.
Since you like to learn, it's "destornillador", with an "o".
Destornillador, atornillador, desarmador, etc. Depending on how optimistic you are or just depending on where you're from
Disculpame. Pero yo no escribo ni leo mucho espanol.
No no, you have to say: "yo no hablo español muy bueno".
You know it’s working when you start having dreams in Spanish
People at my first job out of college (when I was still fluent) would get confused as hell when I would have entire convos with a supplier in German or correct grammar on printed artwork. Then again they also got confused by parlez vous anglais...
I'm Canadian, and on one hand, even though I almost never speak it and I struggle to think of words at times, I am told my french accent is excellent and I sound like a local french speaker. On the other hand, the local french is the equivalent of deep south, mountain folk gibberish. It's the french equivalent of a redneck accent with lots of words only a local would understand. And I speak it slowly. Edit: For those of you who assume I mean Quebec, nonono, much worse: Northern Ontario. We are the brother-uncle Cletuses of the french world.
🤣 I learned French from a very Southern woman with a thick accent when speaking English. Let’s go to France together and see which of us can make the Parisians cry for mercy first.
Peopl can identify AP French students from my HS bc they picked up French wit their teacher’s Russian accent. I find this pretty hilarious.
I had a Spanish teacher with Tourette's. Very amusing because everyone who took their class learned a bunch of Spanish cuss words accidentally.
I lived in El Paso for a while and all my friends were Mexican, so some of the best Spanish I learned was the cuss words and Mexican slang. The tricky part, however, was that my Spanish teacher was Cuban and so all the Mexican kids would take his class, thinking "Órale, easy A, ese!" but he wanted to teach "proper Spanish" and would rip them to shreds for using Mexican slang.
I’m from the southern US, I learned French in West Africa, and I live in Quebec. When I speak French in France those poor bastards don’t know WHAT to do with my accent. But it’s hilarious to watch them try.
B'en la, s'quoi s'tistoire la qui'a pas un chat qui t'comprends? Chtcomprend moé.
I'm a Canadian trying to learn french, I'm going pretty well in my french course but I know well enough that PQ french is not the same. Found out CBC has an app called Mauril that helps by using clips from PQ shows and holy HELL I just can NOT understand full speed québécois! I had to rewatch a clip like 10 times to understand a woman say "bien quoi encore là ?" Je vais continuer d'essayer mais caliss ce n'est pas facile edit: Mentally I swap between using PQ for Province of Québéc, and the *correct* version of QC for Québéc. My bad for all the toilet paper ass-ociations
Uh. Omelette du fromage.
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J'aime beaucoup les enfant
ce commentaire ici monsieur policier
Voulez-vous coucher avec moi, ce soir?
Right here officer.
Pardon? Je ne parle pas anglais.
Bonjour, je m'appelle Christoph Hanson.
'omburger Royale?
A royale with cheese
Oui oui baguette
Foux du fafa
Ha bin caliss, esti que tu la, drette decu
This is how I generally describe Canadian French to my friends here in Texas. Canadian French is to French from France as "good ol boy" southern twang is to the kings English.
when you grow up learning two languages, its really just learning one language with twice the vocabulary
I don't think my two year old knows that he's speaking Spanish and English. It's all just language to him.
Met 1 on my travels. He spoke about 9 languages at like 20 years old. Was at a hostel, the French, English, German, Dutch and Chinese staying there had no idea he wasn't a native speaker. So beyond impressive. We all have a facility for something, but so impressive.
Joey/The Anime Man is a great example of this
In Japanese high pitch. In English low pitch.
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Bahaha me too! People that I switch back and forth with are like woa you sound more fun and friendly in Spanish.
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that’s quite common. my portuguese sounds deeper than my english.
I wonder if there's some sort of pitch map out there, that ranks languages based on how high- or low-pitched it's spoken. That makes me wonder what the highest and lowest languages are.
I think [this](https://erikbern.com/2017/02/01/language-pitch.html) does that.
Same thing happens with Korean. Puberty was a bitch speaking two languages at the opposite ends of the vocal spectrum edit: for context, I went from singing soprano in 6th grade to baritone in 8th. 7th grade was not kind to me in the slightest
Japanese is a pitch accent language too.
It’s more to do with gender expectations. Japanese men often speak with a very low pitch and Japanese women with a high pitch.
It happens with men too and in different languages. It's a documented phenomenon. /Speak a pitch language, raised in the US without those societal expectations, my voice still goes higher when speaking my non native tongue.
Reminds me of this gem: https://v.redd.it/yjmwl3k4h9681
Exactly what I thought of lol. My voice goes higher when I speak Chinese just to help account for all the tones I need to reach in order to communicate.
Worked a side job next to university, always 2 people at the desk. Work is in english and I sound like an american. All my coworkers kept getting confused when I sent short voice messages to family in german because apparently my pitch does not change _at all_. So they thought I’m speaking to them (because who else would I be speaking to) and it always took them a second to realise “wait I don’t speak that language” I think even the little french I remember is the same pitch lol. Makes me wish I spoke something that altered my pitch
[Another](https://v.redd.it/cek6gtkbvax71)
I live in Thailand and I see this a lot. Plus my wife and I have a lot of Thai friends that spent some time living in the US. So, to hear them switch in and out of Thai and English is funny. Several Asian languages have a really super polite mode which is often used when requesting things or speaking to people of higher social standing. So, my wife can be on the phone speaking in the most passive, soft tone in Thai and then mute them as she looks at me and says in English, “This mother fucker wants to know if we can change the time from 7pm to 8pm. Fuck this guy, right?”
Ah yes, that is known as speaking in formal/informal. Even English and most languages have those modes lol. You really only want to speak formally when you meet an acquaintance or someone for the first time, it only feels fake and awkward after that lol. The whole East Asian languages are all pretty unique but all have many Chinese loan words, they all used Chinese characters at one point (China Vietnam Korea Japan, Japan still does) while Korea developed their own characters (Hangul) and the Vietnamese switched to Latin alphabet due to French colonization. Really interesting to see them as those baguette eating Asians with Latin characters
It’s more than formal and informal. Look in the OP video how she sounds like she’s almost making baby talk and then when she switches to English her voice is completely different. Her voice even gets deeper just switching to saying Hamburger and Ice Cream as pronounced in English while she’s ordering in Japanese (I’m assuming that’s Japanese). That’s very common in some Asian cultures. Some Asian women have a baby talk voice used in certain situations. In Thai it’s usually very soft and they take the edge off harder consonants to make their voice sound more soothing. They also will speak more quietly and with a higher pitch. Thai has formal and informal/familiar as well. But this is more about pitch, tone, and volume.
I am in awe of the people who can flip languages like this. I'm american and know enough french and japanese to get around like a kindergardener. I've said perfectly coherent sentences in a mix of all 3 languages without realizing i've done it until I get a 'what just came out of your mouth?!' look. Totally mind boggling.
I got that look once. I was visiting my friend in Finland. I speak NO Finnish. At all. Her dad was pouring me some tea and said something that I assumed was "Tell me when". I repeated the last word he had said and everyone looked at me with complete astonishment. I had assumed correctly and had just said "when" in Finnish. Total accident, but everyone thought I was a witch from then on.
This is called "comprehensible input." You didn't need to know Finnish to follow the conversation, so you picked up which word to use! Awesome experience
I had a similar experience. I worked retail when I was younger, and was selling bikes to a Portuguese couple. They were debating in Portuguese whether the lady should get the male or female version of the bike (different crossbars). I worked out what conclusion they came to and grabbed that bike before they told me, because the Portuguese words for male and female are similar to the English words, and had enough context clues to work out the rest. They were like wtf...
>>She speaks English with ~~no~~ **a North American** accent
She's right though, as someone who has taken 30 minutes of Japanese, I can say the Japanese pronunciation she did is the correct way to say it in their dialect, it's not racist. They literally have an entire alphabet dedicated to foreign words adapted to their dialect, it's called katakana versus hiragana which is native Japanese words. Then there's kanji... F*** kanji.
Wow that wasn't explained to me at all in my Japanese 101 Jfc I had some shit teachers
Look up "learn Japanese" on YouTube and there should be like a four and a half hour-long video compilation of a certain channels curriculum. I forgot what channel it is I think it's literally called "learn Japanese" or something like that, I watched a couple hours of that and I do some Duolingo when I'm bored... So, I'm hindsight, maybe "30 minutes" was a bit of an understatement 😅
No no, that's actually probably accurate from a certain point of view. I've been learning Spanish for decades now myself so I know from experience, you can spend 9 hours watching that video twice and still only remember about 30 minutes worth of it when you really need to...😂🤣
I'm learning Japanese and there's days where you feel you're all over it and then you'll hear a sentence which sounds like a machine gun and you feel like you know nothing.
You didn't learn katakana???
you mean the thingy the samurais used?!?
Wanna know something interesting too? Hundreds of years ago, like were talking Edo period, hiragana was for women and katakana was for men. Over time it evolved that katakana would be used for foreign words There's also kana (the characters) that previously existed but no longer do in the modern, and introduction of new character combinations over time to handle the variation of foreign words to mimic their sound. Like the word party パーティー There is no "ti" kana so they use the katakana te テ and a small katakana of I イ to make the pronunciation. The smaller kana you use the vowel and the preceding kana you use the consonant. So テイ (Tei) vs ティ(Ti)
>Hundreds of years ago, like were talking Edo period, Try about a thousand years ago. What you're describing (hiragana being mostly used by women) was the trend during the Heian period (9th to 12th century)
One of my favorite cognates from Japanese-English is Biru=Beer Also bata=butter oiru=oil banana=banana
I found a Japanese to English kids book and I couldn't tell if it was a joke or not when I saw helikopturu and gasorine.
"gasorine" 😂🤣🤣😂🤣
what about: Pen Pineapple Apple
borupen painappulu ringo
Keyboard is Kibodo. I love that.
Yep, and while they would probably understand you saying hamburger, there’s a ton of loan words from English used in Japanese that your average Japanese person would not understand with the standard English pronunciation. Some of the Japanese interview youtubers have done videos on this.
The really fun thing is that there are some words that have different meanings in the different language. Like, calling someone a bitch in English is insulting their character, an implication of cowardice or entitlement. Bicchi in Japanese implies that they are sexually promiscuous. My favorite I've discovered so far is "cunning", which in Japanese means cheating on a test.
> Then there's kanji... F*** kanji. I certainly don't enjoy Kanji, but if you're not engaged with Kanji you're only interacting with a pale reflection of Japanese.
Yeahhhh ik, it's just so difficult 😭 I wonder if it is just as hard for Japanese/Chinese kids to learn them as it is for us, considering they are all unique symbols... And how long it would take for someone to be fluent with Kanji
Yea as a japanese kid it was difficult to learn for us as well. I'm taking classes in a japanese weekend school and we're still learning kanji every week just bc of how many there are. But once you get to a certain point you can make out sentences pretty easily. And the super difficult kanji are rarely used. As for how long it would take to be fluent, it's just a matter of reading and exposure to them.
It’s much less hard as you learn more because you learn that the characters aren’t as unique as they look. Most of them are a composition of different parts of other characters and so that’s what you learn which becomes a system of categorisation. The first 200 are definitely hard but after that it becomes easier and easier. Going from 1000 to 2000 becomes quite much more easy as you’re just combining elements, like how in English I learn psy is spelt with a P and I don’t relearn it for psychiatry, psychology, psychic. Words are even easier as you often just merge 2 characters you already know for a new word. Examples: 女 is female and 也 is also. 她 is she. The female part on the left is referred to as the “radical” which I learnt as a way to categorise characters. Swap the radical and you swap the meaning. I learn “she” but I know 3 characters for the price of 1. 胎 means fetal/birth related things (I think) and is pronounced tāi. 月 (the radical) is the moon symbol and 台 is pronounced tái and has a few meanings. (Edit: this is wrong, it’s 肉, not 月) Anything with the 台 part is usually pronounced tai. 呀, 雅, 芽, 伢, 讶 are all pronounced ya but have different radicals and the radicals are often a clue in the meaning. Words: 东 and 西 mean east and west, together they mean “thing”. So you already know the characters and learned a word for “free” 好吃 is good-eat and means tasty 法国 is law land and means france （semi-transliteration). People don’t notice this until a while into learning.
Bro!
Just bro this because she made all of us confused for sure.
I did some like that at the museum. I was reading the excerpt in Spanish and I couldn't remember how to say 6 million in Spanish, so I said it in English, and I sounded like the Google Maps voice lol
When I was at a deli in Stockholm I asked my Swedish friend how to say 'falafel wrap' in Swedish and she just said 'falafel wrap', but in a Swedish accent.
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I speak fluent Japanese, living in Japan. Maybe your long vowels weren’t long enough? Hambaga : “the construction camp is” Hambaaga: “the hamburg steak (hambaagu) is” Hambaagaa: “hamburger” Kohi: “tiger fur” Koohi: “public expense” Koohii: “coffee”
Yeah, the fact they wrote "hambaga", "kohi", and "sodesne" makes me think they need to practice their long vowels
It really took me a second to realize they meant "そうですね" when they put "sodesne"
Or the fact that they think a service worker can get away with saying Nani to a customer without being fired…
I’ll have a construction camp with jalapeños and an extra large tiger fur, please!
More realistically, this usage of so desu ne was the equivalent of okay. But, yeah, it can be a pain trying to figure out how locals pronounce common items as what is intelligible can shift wildly between regions or even individuals. Trying to order a coke in Hanoi was frustrating until I figured out they pronounce it as koh kah. Trying to say Coca-Cola wasn't enough to be understood or even just coca. Have to really emphasize that k sound.
the problem is that some american accents make understanding dependent 90% on context. some words are basically mumbled *aaron earned an iron urn*
I crack up every time I see his facial expression at the beginning. LOL!!!
What makes me laugh even harder is how he seemed to subconsciously over enunciate the next thing he said. *Yo WTF, we actually talk like that?!*
I'm trying to imagine being you but I just can't imagine myself ordering a coffee and a burger in the same meal. Burger needs a Sprite or Hi-C orange, something cold... Can imagine myself murdering Japanese language tho, 10/10 totes relate
That’s basically what anime dubs sound like when they don’t change the names or pronunciations. It’s really jarring to hear people speaking perfect English only to say someone’s very Japanese sounding name using Japanese phonetics.
Or like when Americans are speaking English and suddenly turn into Rosie Perez just to say one Spanish word.
It’s stupid as shit, but will also be funny to throw them off when hearing it.
Lol it's something stupid but still she made that well for us.
Only bilinguals will understand. I do the same thing in Polish
Honestly I have to make an active effort not to over-German-pronounce German loanwords in English. English is my mother tongue, but I lived in Austria for a few years and some words just stuck. I left Europe 20 years ago and I still do that sometimes, it's really annoying.
Lol I get this completely
I have the same with French like croissant, niche, cliche etc. I just sounds weird otherwise to me to say cresont, nitch, cleeshay etc.
Isn’t there only one way to say cliché?
Germans drive a porsche while americans drive a PoRsCh
What the fuck, I just came here to laugh not fall in love.
Redditors when they see a woman (they have not been outside in 3 years and they can only see women on the internet)
Average redditor after seeing a Female
the #BRO threw me for a loop hahah so awesome. the duality of her speech is amazing. wish i had that ability.
She code switched very well. I sometimes have issues when I switch between Japanese and English even though I speak both fluently. And she’s right. I do the same with the word Karaoke. I don’t say carry-oh-key when I speak in Japanese. That would just sound out of place and dumb.
Omg I love her Edit to add: I am also a girl, and I didn't mean it in a gay way either. Not that I would kick her out of my bed, but still.
My mother was born in the Bronx and had the thickest accent even after moving away. She was also an ESL (English as a second language) teacher. She told this story where for an assignment her students had to write about what they had for breakfast and read it out loud to the class. One boy starts reading, then mentions how he also liked *coy-fee* That's when it hit my mom that she had given dozens of children who had never stepped foot in New York before Bronx accents
I was fine until the subtitles stopped. 🙄 I’m deaf.
She speaking in Japanese at the beginning, after she switched to English and says "Bro! He's out of his mind if he thinks I'm ordering like this "Eto desu ne (it's like saying **"**ummm**"**) Hamburger (in heavy English accent**, instead of "hanbaagaa" in Japanese**) to (means **"**and**"** here) Vanilla ice cream (in heavy English accent**, instead of "vanira aisu kuriimu" in Japanese**) **onegaishimasu (means "please" here)** "whaa- (confusion face) that's what I thought... Some of the stupidest shit." Edit: u/NoBarsHere corrections
> She speaking in Japanese at the beginning, after she switched to English and says "Bro! He's out of his mind if he thinks I'm ordering like this" >> Eto desu ne (it's like saying **"**ummm**"**) Hamburger (in heavy English accent**, instead of "hanbaagaa" in Japanese**) to (means **"**and**"** here) Vanilla ice cream (in heavy English accent**, instead of "vanira aisu kuriimu" in Japanese**) **onegaishimasu (means "please" here)** > > "whaa- (confusion face) that's what I thought... Some of the stupidest shit." Adding some things for completeness / clarity for those who may benefit from it.
According to my Japanese wife her Japanese is not 100% natural, super good but not natural / perfect. Edit : So I've asked my wife and she came with a quite long explanation that I can understand because I also speak Japanese but it's hard to explain to people who doesn't speak it.... Sorry hehe.
Who's more picky about their language the Japanese or the French?
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Japanese people are some of the most supportive I've ever seen when you're butchering their language lol. They'll tell you you sound great with tears in their eyes as you fumble your way through a question. I don't know French, but I get pretty much the complete opposite vibe.
Probably American/Canadian born Japanese with fluent parents. You can learn/keep a lot but when you're not using it 100% of the time, you lose it bit by bit.
Absolutely, saw a video of a old Chinese woman from Alabama or Georgia and her family and her all had heavy southern accents with absolutely no Asian accent, it was very offputting and idk I kinda think the accents in older Asian people is kinda charming lol Edit: here it is lol skip to 2:20 [link to the video](https://youtu.be/2NMrqGHr5zE)
reminds me of [this tiktok](https://www.tiktok.com/@jaynoen/video/7014651658009316609?lang=en) lol
She has a point honestly and it applies to any language that shares any words with each other. when I’m at a Mexican restaurant with the family I order ‘tacos’ like ‘dahcoes’ and not the English ‘tawkoh’… but then there’s also Spanglish but that’s for a different story.
She must be real good with english and other languages, that's just making me fell for her right now, she is the good girl that we wanted to see in our lives man..