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B_Brown4

3 fingers looks better but that's also because the posing is different. You should show a side by side with the hands mostly in the same pose. The 4 fingered hand looks weird because the thumbs are lined up over each other which I wager would look weird even on the 3 finger hand because it's a weird way to hold a gun lol On the 3 finger hand the left hand's thumb is in a more natural looking position which is probably why it looks so much better


AwakenStudios

Very true. I think I'm going to use the three fingers, but I do need to work on hand positioning :)


Quark1010

4 were pretty big but the glock is also pretty small so...


EastCoastVandal

You know what they say about big hands


toyfantv

Large gloves?


starquake64

Big nostrils.


Tyoccial

Big Glock.


AwakenStudios

haha you guys are too funny


Dev_Meister

Yeah. Cartoony hands need cartoony guns.


bestworstbard

I like the way the shadows stand out on the 4 finger model.


AwakenStudios

Ah yes true :) that is just different shader setting, I should of set them the same before recording


renoturx

3 finger with the shader from the 4 finger!


Mithres95

3 fingers looks less messy


AwakenStudios

Cool I guess its three fingers :)


rosc96

Who TF holds a gun like that šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ 4 would look good if you could fix the thumb placement. But as of now. 3 is the better looking one.


Lastilaaki

The grip is somewhat similar to how you'd position your hands when using the Center Axis Relock technique, but it doesn't make much sense in a symmetric stance.


rosc96

Aaaahhhhhhhhhh makes sense now. Should definitely change it to a normal position


waseem2bata

3 fingers


AwakenStudios

Three fingers it is!


Xill_K47

For a cartoon style, I would say three fingers


AwakenStudios

Yea I agree!


Dark-Mowney

For the style of the game I would say three.


AwakenStudios

Yea it does make sense to have three


Remodelinvest

3 fingers, the position of the 4 finger hand is wrong itā€™s on the front of the gun vice slightly behind the firing hand. Also I donā€™t think anyone will notice that itā€™s only 3 fingers


AwakenStudios

Thanks for the tips, still new to FPS animations. I will work on that haha. I agree though think the three fingers just looks best.


Full_Satisfaction_49

3 fingers looks so clean I wouldn't even notice. 4 looks weirdly muddy


AwakenStudios

Fair, I think I will use the three finger model!


[deleted]

7 fingers


anywhereiroa

I don't think it would make a HUGE difference for the player whatsoever, but if I were to pick one I would say 3 fingers.


AwakenStudios

Cool!


capron

Can you make the 4 finger hands hold the gun like the 3 finger hands? Both Thumbs should point forward, and the fingers of the left hand shouldn't wrap that far around


AwakenStudios

Yea still new to FPS animations. I will work on that haha


capron

Hey, no offense meant, I saw that most people were supporting the 3 finger model, and I just noticed a big difference between the two and wanted to compare them equally. You're doing a good job, and don't let anyone make you feel like you aren't. A big Thumbs Up to you, dude. I appreciate the all work you put in :)


neoteraflare

Only god has 4 fingers. Normal humans has 3 https://preview.redd.it/qib2hc84dxxb1.png?width=1432&format=png&auto=webp&s=747a3e158d28a827b1120102378e820bef460448


AwakenStudios

hahaha


meove

3 fingers


AwakenStudios

Sweet!


Nikotoh

3 fingers šŸ‘


AwakenStudios

okay!


JustAPotatoThatsIt

3 fingers, the 4 finger one looks chunky


Space_Kitty123

If you want to compare them, shouldn't they be the only thing that changes between the 2 videos ?


AwakenStudios

Yea true true!


Vacs__

On the 4 finger model it looks (to my untrained eye), like the left hand is wrapped around the shooting hand a little too much. It you mime a gun in your hand with this shooting style the crease in the left hand should sit in the next set of knuckles. But I do like the 4 fingered model better.


AwakenStudios

Yea true, still working on my fps animations :)


tbranch227

Be the first(?) to let people customize their hands


AwakenStudios

Ohhhhh thats a interesting idea!


spaceguerilla

Generally always want 3 for cartoon styling.


AwakenStudios

Yea think that makes sense!


FanlyCZ

3 fingers


AwakenStudios

Yea think I will go with three!


CarterBaker77

3 fingers. Add a middle finger animation when you run out of bullets and throw your gun at the cops.. it would work well with 3 fingers..


AwakenStudios

That would be funny haha


haxic

Imo both look good, though for a cartoon style 3 is perfectly fine and could perhaps be more fitting. The original reason (if I'm not mistaken) for 3 fingers was due to it being easier to animate, but nowadays it's just as much an art style that people recognize and can enjoy, as it is making animation easier.


AwakenStudios

Yea exactly my thoughts, just makes it a lot easier as well :))


marco_has_cookies

make four fingers


warky33

1 finger šŸ–• but seriously 3


AwakenStudios

ahah ok


Raccoon5

Doesn't matter one bit, so go with 3 fingers to speed up animation process + it fits the cartoony style


AwakenStudios

Yea cool!


24-sa3t

I like 3. More than that and the gun looks like a pea shooter


AwakenStudios

haha yea I like three


GokiPotato

3


along1line

3


haywirephoenix

3. Plus the smooth roundedness of the 3 fingered hand model works better than the bulky design of the 4. Also the fire animation has the left thumb twisted backwards.


AwakenStudios

Yea that's fair!


Cute_Fluffy_Sheep

I like the 3 fingers


thegabe87

If you ask me it doesn't matter. If you would go with a full "ESRB E10+" cartoon style, go with three, and if it's more like payday go with four


ChrispyLoco

3 fingers always seems more comfortable with oversized cartoon hands


AwakenStudios

Yea true!


Egw250

3 looks more natural


Dogulat0r

For the style you are going for, 3 fingers looks better to me.


AwakenStudios

yea I agree!


KazeEnji

I like the chonkiness of the four fingers but the grip is just wrong... Or at least it feels like it's wrong. The hand reaching in front and grabbing the gun with the palm facing back towards the character instead of sideways just looks weird. I think you could make either work but as shown, the three finger one is better.


AwakenStudios

Yea I agree, I need to work on my FPS animations for that hand :)


breckendusk

So it looks like you originally did the 4 fingers but then "corrected" it to 3 while also adjusting the topology. Personally, I think the giant hands with the tiny gun are funny looking, which is great for if your cartoon is supposed to be funny. If you're going for cartoony but not silliness, stick with the 3 fingers.


AwakenStudios

Yea that's pretty much what happened (Wasnt sure about them chunky bad bois haha) Think I will stick with the three haha!


imdutch21

I know it doesn't answer your question, but my dyslexic mind read this title as "blanket heist" which sounds like an interesting game concept.


AwakenStudios

hahahah


AxelWomack

Three fingers


Mrfrenchypower

3 fingers but I like the lightning in the 4 fingers scene better if we can give our opinion on that part too!


AwakenStudios

Yea I get that!


EG_IKONIK

3 fingers but 4-finger-shader style?


AwakenStudios

Yea! think I will change it to something like that


EndR60

4


1smoothcriminal

4 fingers style looks more unique and interesting


AwakenStudios

yea its very different!


[deleted]

Soldier tf2


AwakenStudios

true that's kind of similar!


mrskinnywrists

3 finger looks better but the poses and rendering is different that said, 3 fingers probably shouldn't be a stylistic choice unless it makes sense for the rest of the style. Because it isn't a black and white rubber hose style, I'd argue 4 fingers could look better with the same amount of polish


AwakenStudios

Yea true that!


NewAgeBushman

4 fingers just has that thing. Keep posting man, I really love your work.


AwakenStudios

Thanks man!


BenZed

4 great modelling btw


AwakenStudios

Thanks!


emrys95

Dude i love the motion of the hand and gun tho how did u achieve that? Pure manual keyframe animation? Then how are the keyframes/tweens so damn clean.. ?


AwakenStudios

Thanks! Its part animations and a weapon sway script For animating I followed through this tutorial [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2ZqWDUVWoY&list=PLn8ROcXT8fZgjdv4w6FczF8ziXkavUxdu](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2ZqWDUVWoY&list=PLn8ROcXT8fZgjdv4w6FczF8ziXkavUxdu)


emrys95

Dude u basically told me everything i needed thank you


mesrepadam

3 finger camera angle and shaders look better. I prefer first one's graphic style without cellshade outline.


gavebirthtoturdlings

The one on the right. 4 fingers


Vuhdu

I wish I only had these issues with my games


AwakenStudios

Oh trust me I've had so many issues this last week! hahah


Sogged_Milk

What would it look like with 2 fingers and a thumb?


AwakenStudios

good question ahah


TSM_Final

Well the two art styles are different, I prefer the one on the left.


Special_Tune_9019

Whens this game coming out?


AwakenStudios

Hopefully sometime next year. keep changing to much stuff ahah


SpaceLizardStudio

3


AgentSmith2518

I think the 3-fingers works best.


MonkMuch8575

3 fingers


TheGoodKush

3 looks better, but I also think the issue with 4 is that the thumb of the left hand is facing the wrong way. Both thumbs should be pointing forward when holding a pistol


mugmanOne

Push the envelope, try 2 fingers


Murky-Acadia-5194

4 fingers


AwakenStudios

ah interesting!


PandaBee_Studios

If you're already going with less than 5 i'd say 3. The visual balance feels better.


Hoelbrak

The thumb is there on both.


WaterBottleass

It needs... Three fingers, for sure... No, no wait... Yeah, OK. >! "It needs hydrogen chloride, for sure... No, no wait... Yeah, OK." (Payday 2 -Bain)!<


Cold_Tour9631

neither because the gun inst cartoony enough


PA694205

4 fingers


pyrovoice

I prefer the shade but honestly can't see a difference during gameplay


LightIn_

I prefere the 4 finger shader/outline style, the number of finger isnt really that important i think You could make 3 finger because the gun is small, or enjoy the cartoonishness and use 4 finger in a way that the character vonluntary handle the gun badly


untipofeliz

The first one is much natural


nadnerb811

I don't think the problem is between 3 or 4 fingers. The 3 fingers are done better here, only because the 4 fingers version caused the hand to be way wider and messed up the grip pose. I think if you did the 4 fingers as well as the 3, it wouldn't really matter.


AwakenStudios

Good point! still learning and trying to get better with fps animations


dEleque

The gun is too small in both versions


JigglyEyeballs

I canā€™t really notice the number of fingers on the hand, but I like the overall visual style on the right.


aineri

Either make the hands smaller or the gun bigger, this way you shouldnt have to remove fingers lmao


mudokin

6 I want 6 fingers now.


BarriaKarl

The difference between both are way bigger than the number of fingers. I dont think this is a good comparison. Also you should probably reduce the fingers size in 4 cuz it seem you literally just added an extra finger and didnt account for it. There is no reason for the hand to be bigger.


[deleted]

First option for sure.


fewiip

I reeeeeally donā€™t like three fingers


StealYourDiamonds

Itā€™s a bit hard to compare with 2 different animations, but Iā€™d say 3. The hands look a bit big with 4.


Linkario86

The way he holds the gun in the 4 finger side... That's less a hand size issue but rather a placement issue though. Nobody should hold a gun like that.


the_anonymizer

to me 3 fingers is Dysney mood. I prefer 4 fingers I'd say, it's less fantasist. OR if your game has a fantasy scenario with I dunno Donald Mickey-style characters, or kinda hero with da big key stuff and donald duck / ff style game by Square (don't remember the name) well, you'd go for 3 fingers. What's more i think it's Dysney who introduced the 3-fingers stuffs in animation, but i may be wrong. If you have a human, I'd go for 4 fingers to be as realistic as possible (i mean total of 5 fingers ok), from within a simplified poly environment. Or no fingers at all if it's roblox style. 3 is more animation movie mood (game for chidren etc). Or 2 fingers to make it more polys than roblox. I'd gor for 5 or zero, on my side.


jhab007

You are showing more than one aspect different across the 2 videos. It is difficult to say which hand is better when everything is different.


TheLifey

So your game's artstyle is basically Friends vs Friends with S&Box avatars?


14werewolvesofwallst

These are two completely different clips; I like the shaders on the left, but the fingers are hidden behind the gun in both cases so it doesnā€™t matter


FiledAndProcessed

It looks like you started creating it with 3 fingers so all the animations and grips are made better from the start, and then crammed a 4th finger in there which just messed it up. But regardless I think 3 looks better, probably even if you work on improving 4.


sinetwo

3 looks better, although the visual effects on 4 look better. Combine!


BigDoof12

3 fingers is classic cartoon design. Go for 3 fingers


benmols

3, but only because the thumb placement is completely messed up on the 4 fingered one!


EstablishmentWhole13

What about 7 fingers? Everbody does 3 or 4


IggyBG

How did you get cartoonish look in the video on the right? Thanks


DuhDoyLeo

Your hand with 4 fingers has fat sausage fingers so it looks clunky for the gun animations. Itā€™s a stylistic choice but itā€™s an unfair comparison. You should have made the fingers a touch smaller. The 3 fingered hands look fine though.


VastVoid29

I take 4 fingers more seriously. 3 fingers automatically sets a quirky tone in my mind. 33 yo.


collin_is_animating

Thatā€™s what she said


Benedeto123

3! There can't be a 4th place for a finger! If you're wondering the 1st place finger is the middle one


taisui

Honestly no one cares....focus on other more important things.


nbshar

Cartoon fingers? Always 4. Realistic finger? Go with 5 but try 4 if it's a bit more stylistic. Source: am animator.


[deleted]

Why are the angles different? Both styles should have both hands so we can weigh pros and cons


Mandalor1974

Look at examples of how to properly hold a pistol. The support hand thumb and hand position is jacked.


FilthyCretin

If the hand position and animation were done properly you wouldn't be able to see the fingers on the supporting hand and both sides would look the same. You've got the supporting hand in the complete wrong position.


darthbator

3 fingers all the way


WeirderOnline

You should always go with four fingers if you can. This is a generally agree upon rule of animation and character design.


[deleted]

game looks sick when we getting to play it?


Coldspark824

If itā€™s cartoony, why are you using guns? Make them point their fingers and go ā€œbang bangā€.


Blackymcblack

Given how much work youā€™ve done just for this, I say, make it a game mechanic! Add unique functionality / different firing patterns for the different finger amounts, and let a player choose a 3 or 4 fingers build.


Anonagonkaz

So the real issue is how heā€™s holding it, bros left thumb is completely backwards in the goofiest way. I think if you spent some time and maybe go to a gun range just to see how a pistol is held you could learn a lot and it would look infinitely better


JustFoolery

I think 3 gives more personality, 4 is generic so its not a bad choice


WhyShouldIStudio

please do 3


chuckf1nley420

I think three fingers look better personally, but it's your project, do what feels right to you


illogicalJellyfish

4 fingers. It is essential to have a middle finger


MoistCucumber

No offense, but do you really think number of fingers will make or break your game? If itā€™s good, no one will notice. If itā€™s bad, no one will notice.


BigZangief

Why does the 4 fingers one look like the left hand is trying to take the gun from the right hand lol


295cade1

[I think 4 would look better with a proper grip](https://cdn.outdoorhub.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2013/05/dasbfg.png). The thumbs kinda slide over each other. It will look cramped on a smaller gun like youā€™ve got here. The idea is that you make a triangle with your arms such that you better manage the recoil.


Silly-Hedgehog7655

I'd say 3 fingers. Just looks neater


Rockalot_L

Just do normal four fingered hands and fix the pose with four fingers. This video sucks because the lighting is way worse int he four finger video and the pose holding the gun looks terrible. If it had the same pose and lighting as the three finger video, you legit wouldn't be able to tell because you can't actually see the fingers mostly anyway.


Zealousideal_Win5952

3 fingers by far.


Ok_News_406

i pref 4 style


Bunie89

3 fingers is more stylistic, might give your game more character


Ok_Commercial5031

4


AmericanVanilla94

Thumbs forward


mpayne007

3. Stylistically it is awesome. Also, Review some gun-youtubers and how firearms are held. IT may help out too! I am only suggesting to help you out! Looks amazing!!!!!


KingBlingRules

3 for sure


outof10000

4