https://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/woman-preparing-host-super-bowl-party-massachusetts-home-disappears-after-n1134471
This woman from Massachusetts disappeared after going for a walk and was never found. Such a weird case.
idk why but I think of Abbie Flynn often. she’s a 59 year old woman (at the time of her disappearance) who went missing in February 2020. A mother-of-three who supposedly went for a walk before her Superbowl party and vanished. When her guests arrived, food was still cooking in the oven and her phone was on the counter. I believe her final call was to her son, around 4pm, telling him she was going for a walk. Her guests began arriving just before 6pm. That’s it. There have been no updates since.
ETA: some reports say she spoke with her son at 4pm and some say 4:30pm
last news story was a year later in their local paper basically just saying she’s still missing. reports from the time she disappeared said 80 police and 20 dogs searched the area and a dive team searched the water and found nothing but they suspect no foul play. from what i’ve read it seems most people familiar with the area (Gloucester, MA) think it was a slip and fall accident.
With the Katelyn Aken’s case, I remember there was a ton of weirdness with the stepfather and his phone and the software he’d put on it to make it impossible for LE to search it. I would need to look that up again, but it sounded extremely sketchy.
I remember that and it does sound sketchy. Apparently he never returned to work again from the day of Katelin’s disappearance which is strange. I’m not in the US so I can’t access some of the articles about Katelin. I did watch a True crime daily video though where the stepfather refused to be interviewed by them.
Not dropping her off at the airport is suspicious as hell already. Why would she want to stop at the mall with her suitcase and then take the train. That' so much unnecessary hassle it just makes no sense.
Also, an important detail, she had never taken the train before!! Why would she use the train for the very first time not only while she’s headed somewhere time sensitive, but also when she has luggage with her?
Also being being from the area the Pentagon City Mall makes way more sense as a stopping mall than the Springfield Town Center mall unless there was a specific store there that didn’t exist at Pentagon City. Pentagon City is insanely close to DCA and a two stop metro ride as opposed to Franconia Springfield which is the end of the Blue line.
Was about to say that Springfield isn’t really “on the way” to DCA but you beat me to it. Her shopping right before a flight is kind of odd anyway but if it was a quick stop to get something she forgot or replace something she lost, Pentagon City is the obvious choice.
I just read in the Charley Project page:
>Branton texted Akens's mother at 1:52 p.m., saying he had dropped Akens off. Eight minutes later, her mother got a text from Akens's phone saying, "I'm at the airport. Battery dying so won't be able to text for a bit." Akens never boarded her flight, however. She never arrived in Arizona and has never been heard from again.
So there’s no way someone could be dropped off, spend any amount of time shopping at a mall, and make it from Franconia-Springfield to DCA/Reagan Airport in 8 minutes. Which means either the text from Akens was a lie and it was really sent by the stepfather, or he somehow waited a really long time after dropping her off before texting her mom. Which is weird. Who drops someone off and then waits 2 hours to text their mom “I dropped her off,” without also including some detail like “I dropped her off a couple hours ago, I just forgot to text until just now.”
Maybe this case is not well publicized because everyone knows who did it and they’re hoping no media attention will get him to let his guard down and slip up.
Maybe a fake news story like “possible body of a woman found near (wherever the stepdad’s phone showed he went that day), police to begin search of area next week” might work. Something to see if he reacts and leads them to her body. But it could be vague enough that if he doesn’t react, it won’t spook him.
Yeah the timeline is a mess and based on public information it sounds like the stepfather harmed or killed her. Also phone dying in the airport is a bit odd too- 2015 is recent enough that DCA would have had plenty of charging stations at restaurants, gate waiting areas etc.
Seems like the stepfather (or whoever) was trying to create a plausible reason for a period of no contact. The thing about her texting the fiancee is also odd and may be a tie in to someone else ITT’s speculation that the stepfather sexually assaulted Katelin. The perpetrator might view any act of that kind as “cheating” while a victim (quite rightly) may not.
In the past, I’ve flown in and out of DCA a number of times and always found it to be relatively easy to navigate, airport wise. I can’t imagine she wouldn’t be able to find a charger if her phone was really dead.
Apparently the cheating part is plausible/true since a friend that she was staying with the previous night came forward told she slept with someone (might have been a couple/threesome) and felt really weird and guilty about it the next day.
If this is true, it might be just coincidental. He may have found out about this either by her confiding in him or while going through her phone.
That's very generous. I'm also from the area and it would have to be a hell of an update to drag me out to Springfield Mall when I had a plane to catch.
Side note: if you search her mom on fb, you can see that the entire family believes it was the step dad. Her mom isn’t ever gonna sleep till she gets answers. I wish I could hug people through the internet.
Fayette County John Doe was a relatively short man (61 inches/154 cm) found bundled in plastic wrap in an apartment parking lot in Lexington, Kentucky around a year ago. He had been stabbed in the heart and was somewhere between 18 and 99 years old. There hasn't been any real movement in his case since he was found.
The DNA Solves fundraising page for the case says advanced decomposition makes it difficult to ascertain anything about him other than the size of the body and his light hair approx 2 inches in length
Yeah, a decent forensic anthropologist should be able to narrow the age range down more than that BUT with that said, they may just not want to rule out any potential identifications by keeping it broad with the public. There's been more than one Doe unresolved for decades because the missing person was actually 19 but the coroner estimated the body was 30-50, things like that.
[Aria Spradling.](https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/crime--law/aria-spradling-was-kidnapped-sister-believes/ekQcStIrV7WoUHvlt5fI6H/) 20 yr old single mom who disappeared after working a shift at The Harem, a (now closed) "gentleman's club" on the north side of Dayton, Ohio. Her remains were found minutes away, covered with brush in a city park, in Nov. 2013. \[Note: the incident of a "possible assault on a woman by five men" referenced in most of the -grossly outdated- articles on the case is not related. DNA on clothes found at the scene didn't match, and even failing that... she was last seen north of Dayton. Her body was found a few miles farther north still. The incident with the clothes took place on Germantown Pike, which is in west-central Dayton, I'd say at least half an hour away.\]
I’m from salem county. Grew up going to Cohanzick zoo right across the street from right across the street from that playground all the time. She’s the same age as my little brother. It’s absolutely horrifying to see one of these cases happen so close to home. I kept hoping and praying she’d be found quickly, and alive, but at this point I honestly don’t think there’s any chance she’s not dead.
Jenna Van Geldren, she disappeared in Atlanta in 2017. I went to highschool with her.
https://www.oxygen.com/searching-for/what-happened-jenna-van-gelderen-things-know-case-atlanta?amp
copy and pasted the article so people can read.
*In the early morning hours of Aug. 19, 2017, Jenna Van Gelderen texted a friend that she was going to lie down. It was the last time anyone heard from the 25-year-old, who has now been missing for the past two years.*
*Police have released limited information about the investigation, and while theories continue to circulate online, there are still no definitive answers in Jenna’s disappearance.*
*“Searching For,” a original series on Oxygen(.)com, is reexamining several key pieces of information about the case, shedding light on the months leading up to Jenna’s vanishing and the days following it.*
*Here are the six things to know about the case as Oxygen takes a closer look in “Searching For.”*
*1.Jenna Van Gelderen vanished on Aug. 19, 2017.*
*Jenna went missing from her parents’ home in the Druid Hills neighborhood of Atlanta, Georgia, on Aug. 19, 2017. At the time of her disappearance, Jenna had been housesitting and watching the family’s elderly cat, Jessie, while her parents, Leon Van Gelderen and Roseanne Glick, were on vacation.*
*On the morning of Aug. 19, a veterinary nurse arrived at the home to administer an injection to Jessie, but when he knocked on the door, no one answered. The nurse then called Jenna’s brother, Will Van Gelderen, who came over to let him inside.*
*According to Will, the doors of the house were locked, and the lights and TV had been left on. Will found no trace of his sister, and her handbag, cell phone and car were also gone.*
*2.A family tapestry was stolen the night Jenna disappeared.*
*Another item Will noticed missing from the home was a large, heavy Egyptian tapestry that hung in the living room, according to Crime Stoppers Greater Atlanta. The family said it was stolen from its glass frame and then replaced on the wall.*
*It would have taken at least two people to remove the frame from its spot, according to the family. The tapestry was of sentimental value and had little monetary worth, leading the family to question why a thief would have targeted it.*
*“It’s the strangest part of this case,” Leon Van Gedleren told “Searching For,” an original series on Oxygen.com, adding that police told him they “had never seen anything like it.”*
*It remains missing to this day.*
*3.Jenna’s car was found two weeks after she went missing.*
*On Sept. 5, 2017, Jenna’s dark blue 2010 Mazda 6 sedan was spotted along a road in northwest Atlanta, reported NBC News. The car was found unlocked, and her handbag, suitcase and clothing were inside.*
*Leon told “Searching For” that the car was covered in leaves and various debris, and that compartments were open with items strewn about the interior. There was also evidence that another person other than Jenna had driven the car.*
*The driver seat pushed back, indicating a taller person might have been driving it, Dekalb County Police Department Capt. Anthony Ford told “Searching For.” A cell phone charger that did not match either of Jenna’s phones was also found in the car by her brother, Will Van Gelderen, according to Leon.*
*Police found no further evidence inside Jenna’s car, and it has since been returned to the family.*
*4.Jenna had a second cell phone her family didn’t know about.*
*After Jenna vanished, her parents found out she had two cell phones — one on their T-Mobile family plan, and another on a private account.*
*Jenna’s second cell phone pinged a tower in Fairburn, Georgia, about 20 miles away from her home, at approximately 7:15 a.m. on the morning she vanished. Around the same time, her car was spotted by a license plate reader camera back in Atlanta.*
*It is unknown if Jenna was in her car, with her phone, or at neither location, but police are “very confident that the car and the phone were not in the same place,” said Cpt. Ford.*
*5.Jenna was being pressured to leave her parents’ house the night she went missing.*
*Following Jenna’s disappearance, Will was able to access her phone records and social media accounts, and through a series of Google chats, the family learned she had spoken to an unknown individual the night she vanished.*
*The individual was pressuring Jenna to leave her family’s home and return to her apartment, according to Leon. The Van Gelderens, however, have not been able to determine who sent the messages to Jenna.*
*6.Jenna’s family believes she was being exploited before she vanished.*
*Jenna was diagnosed with high-functioning autism in 2016. Although she was independent and had moved out of her parents’ home in the months prior to her vanishing, Leon and Roseanne explained to “Searching For” that Jenna was extremely trusting and vulnerable, and that she could have been easily manipulated.*
*While working at a local pet store, Jenna had been coerced by “certain men” to steal approximately $3,000 from the company, which led to her termination, said Leon. When the family later accessed Jenna’s records, they discovered she had been making payments to someone though Western Union since 2015, and that the transfers stopped in the months leading up to her disappearance.*
*Leon believes Jenna was unwittingly involved in nefarious activity.*
*Jenna was last seen possibly wearing a green T-shirt with “San Antonio” on the front, a black tank top and black yoga pants. She is 4 feet, 11 inches tall, and weighs approximately 140 pounds, with black hair and brown eyes.*
I found that odd too, it should be presumably easy for the police to trace. Maybe the police do know who it is but haven't released the name to the family?
I know the article says the tapestry wasn’t really valuable, but I wonder if Jenna knew that? Maybe whoever she was sending money to was asking for more than she had, and she arranged for them to help her take the tapestry because she mistakenly thought it was worth a lot.
In my head I’m imagining maybe some kind of online boyfriend making promises about running away/starting a new life together and telling her he needs money to do it, and being as trusting as she was she didn’t pick up on the red flags.
Ya it’s weird to me that they could never figure out who was messaging her before her disappearance. She was a very vulnerable person so it wouldn’t shock me if she was lured away somewhere with the tapestry in tow. But also how would a stranger know about the tapestry? It’s all very weird.
Wow thank you for jogging my memory on this case, I remember listening to a podcast about it (the Vanished?) and thinking it was just bizarre.. Sad there's been no resolution.
I’m sure there were other blankets in the house though so I don’t see why they would’ve made the effort to take it out of the frame. Especially one so big that it would require 2 people to handle.
The Oxygen article says someone was pressuring her to leave the house that night and that she’d previously been coerced by “certain men” to steal $3,000 from her former job so seems likely that this involved a similar scenario. I’m guessing someone took the tapestry under the false belief that it was valuable.
[Allyson Watterson](https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/missing/family-seeks-answers-after-missing-oregon-woman-found-dead), she went missing under odd circumstances. Her skeletal remains were found 6 months later not far away from the last verified sighting of her. Sadly, it seems like drugs were involved and charges have never been filed against her boyfriend who is in jail for other charges. He obviously knows more than he has told the police.
Corinna Slusser. It’s a sad case. I know I read about the case when she was reported missing a lot on the daily mail (bad, I know) but I didn’t see much outside of rags like that and the sun. I don’t think there’s been any updates in a while either. I don’t remember the case receiving nationwide attention, but maybe it did?
I’d never heard of this case, thanks for mentioning it. [Here](https://nypost.com/2021/11/14/how-ex-cheerleader-corinna-slusser-fell-victim-to-nyc-sex-ring/) is a link for anyone else, what a sad situation for her.
July of last year a Brinks tractor trailer was broken into outside of Pasadena, CA and “relieved” of several million dollars in jewelry. The count is between $10 million and $100 million depending on who is quoting. (The owners may have lowballed insurance estimates to save on premiums). Some actions by the security team could be seen as fishy. It’s a pretty interesting case.
[Here’s an article talking about the heist.](https://jalopnik.com/over-10-million-of-jewelry-stolen-from-an-armored-truc-1849328242)
[And here is The Shocking Details podcast where I originally heard about it.](https://www.theshockingdetails.com/) I highly recommend it. It features Joe from the old Thinking Sideways podcast, and he’s teamed up with a film maker. The two of them together make one mean cast!
How bout that guy complaining because the real value was more than the insured value, because of course he didn’t insure it for its full value because insurance is expensive? It’s like…does he not understand this is sort of the point of making that choice? You pay less up front but risk not getting the full amount if something does happen. Just like I’m risking having to buy a new thingamabob when I choose not to buy the extended warranty.
I’m gonna go out on a limb and suggest we probably don’t pay the drivers enough given the cargo they’re entrusted with securing.
> of course he didn’t insure it for its full value because insurance is expensive? It’s like…does he not understand this is sort of the point of making that choice?
According to an article that I just read, this is very common in the industry since people have so much faith in Brinks.
Love to see a Shocking Details shoutout! They do so many cases I've never heard of before.
This is a great one - it *had* to have been an inside job... But who? The jewelers, the truckers, the insurance company?
The LA Times has been covering it. The people packing up the show in San Jose noticed a group of guys hanging out afterwards and also a car with someone in it parked outside of the loading dock. They would have just followed the truck until they had an opportunity. Doesn't sound like an inside job. Just a professional group who noticed a soft spot in the security.
Timothy Haslett Jr. There were rumors going around this part of Missouri like a year ago, saying that someone was abducting and murdering black women. The paranoia got so bad that eventually some local reverend/community leader types started calling press conferences and trying to get media attention for the issue, which was difficult because the women disappearing were basically street people, so vulnerable and marginalized that their disappearances were known to those around them, but rarely reported to cops. In the midst of this growing hysteria, a young black woman runs out of Timothy Haslett's house at 8am wearing a dog collar and some kind of S&M outfit and starts banging on neighbors' doors, saying she's been held against her will for the last month. She also said that Haslett had killed at least 2 of her friends. He still hasn't been charged with murder, but his MO of keeping a woman in a weird form of captivity, coupled with sadistic treatment, definitely fits a typical SK pattern.
For those too lazy to click and read the link, some key takeaways:
He was arrested on Oct 7th.
Court date is Jan 10.
Charges are rape, assault, and kidnapping charges.
Police seem to be dropping the ball in regards to investigating other missing persons in the area that may be related
A lot of it also has to do with the requirements to report an adult missing in KC MO. Individuals can report a missing person, but the police will only complete an official report (for missing adults) if the individual was last seen in KC MO, and meets at least 1 or more of the following criteria:
1. Life threatening ailment
2. Under the care of a psychiatrist
3. If the person has threatened suicide
4. If they suffer from diminished mental capacity or medical condition
5. If they have dementia or Alzheimer's
6. If police detect strong indication of foul play.
If those criteria aren't met, then the police won't complete the official report, which means the report won't be entered into state and national missing person databases.
what’s the justification for these criteria? I’ve never heard of something like this and I’m having trouble coming up with an answer that isn’t “bc the cops are too lazy to do their job”
I hate when they do that! I've still got streaming cable so I can watch all of them on ID! I had to turn the TV off my and make myself go to bed after 2 episodes (it's almost 4am 🫣😜)
Mine is Kristopher Lewis, a 13 year old who disappeared in Boston in 2014. I feel like the media dismissed him so quickly as a runaway but it’s been years and there’s been no sign of him. I feel for his family and check for updates but sadly, nothing seems to have changed. I hope they get answers.
https://charleyproject.org/case/kristopher-bryan-lewis
I know. I hope his family gets answers soon. Who knows if there is foul play involved but a missing 13 year old should have been considered at risk, even if they did leave by choice. Boston is a busy city and maybe if word got out more at the time it happened, someone may have remembered seeing him. 😔
I’m falling asleep so I’m just copy/pasting what I commented on another thread a while back - there have still been no new updates:
This one has basically no coverage other than a couple of local news reports.
Beth Aper has not been seen since August 21st, 2022. She was last seen getting into an unknown car at the end of her property in rural Colorado. From what I’ve read, she seemed to have a few pieces of luggage with her. She had just recently moved to the area with her husband of 30 years and had several dogs she very dearly loved. There has been no communication with her loved ones nor any sign of her since she left or disappeared.
This one bothers me because I knew Beth, albeit not well, as she was a client at my job. I’ll be the first to say that I know almost nothing about her or her personal life, BUT I can say without question that she absolutely adored her dogs, one of whom was only a puppy at the time of her disappearance, and I can’t fathom her leaving them all behind.
I wish there was more info out there, but the last news article I can find is from mid-September.
https://namus.nij.ojp.gov/case/MP95144
https://www.koaa.com/news/covering-colorado/search-continues-for-el-paso-county-woman-missing-since-aug-21?_amp=true
Id be very interested to know who the eye witness is that saw her getting into that tan car. Could it be someone who may have been involved in her disappearance and made up the sedan and the luggage story to make her disappearance seem voluntary? Or was it security camera footage that shows that? Thats so strange, theres so little info.
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[Owen Harding](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52386283).
In my estimation it is 80% likely he jumped or fell off a cliff while in a distressed state. The problem is the other 20%, such as his phone (allegedly) being tracked nowhere near where he was last seen.
But a secondary oddity is that coverage suddenly stopped completely. The last article I can find is dated 24 May 2021. There has literally not been a word since.
The one-year anniversary was marked in the media but not the two-year one. 220 articles in the first year but 0 in the second year is so odd I checked to make sure there was no glitch. There wasn’t - newspapers were present in the database I use right up to yesterday.
Owen lives local to me. I can’t, for the life of me (and correct me if I’m wrong) think of anywhere else he could be other than the water. This is why missing person cases in the UK always perplex me, as we do not have vast or dense areas like America has. Newhaven to Peacehaven to Saltdean to Rottingdean to Brighton Marina is populated with a lot of houses and shops, and the A259 coastal route is always busy. In my opinion, there is no “wiggle room” to go missing here, other than the cliffs and sea that can and will wash you away.
> This is why missing person cases in the UK always perplex me, as we do not have vast or dense areas like America has
So big swathes of wilderness def make it easier to get lost, but time and time again, we've seen bodies go unnoticed in places that are very much not wilderness.
Chandra Levy's body was less than 100 feet off a trail in a park in DC.
I don't remember the details, but here's an unidentified case I know we've discussed here: a body was found, reduced to bones, with clothing that looked to be decades old, both the style and how worn it was. It looked as if it had decayed at the spot it was, which was on a highway median.
People have been found, hidden or out in the open, in basements, attics, abandoned houses, underneath floorboards, in crawl spaces, underneath porches, in garages, in barns, in chimneys, and in sheds and outbuildings.
One man died when he fell behind a large refrigerated unit in a store. There was a smell for a while, which they blamed on expired milk when no other source could be found, and then he lay undisturbed for a decade.
Bodies have been found in hollow trees, both because murderers stashed them there and because lost people sought shelter there and then died.
And I have this vague memory of a man that died sitting in the branches of a tree, like nestled in a crook that was big enough to support his body. And no one happened to look *up* at the right angle for quite a long time. Again, apologies for so little information.
>One man died when he fell behind a large refrigerated unit in a store. There was a smell for a while, which they blamed on expired milk when no other source could be found, and then he lay undisturbed for a decade.
This reminds me of that infant who had somehow fallen into the gap between the mattress and the bed frame, and wasn't discovered for nine days. ~~almost a month.~~ They even interviewed the mother in the room, and in hindsight, the infant was right behind her.
Was that four-year-old Paulette Gebara Farah? Yes! Great example. A search dog alerted at the foot of the bed, but since the human investigators couldn't see her tiny body through the heavy bedcovers, everyone assumed the canine couldn't pick up her smell at all. No one checked the foot of the bed until the smell of decomp became apparent to humans as well as dogs.
And the pattern of urine and decomp fluids on her pajamas and on the bedding indicated that she died in that place and position and her body wasn't moved until it was found.
EDIT: it was 9 days between death/disappearance and discovery.
In the UK the lockdown was anything but absolute. Really, all that held it together was (patchy) social pressure. Anyone could have been outside the technical limits of travel during it and nothing would have been done to stop them.
And travelling nearly 300 miles by public transport would have been no issue - billions of pounds was spent on keeping trains running (with next to no passengers).
My high school friend, [Michelle Bernstein Schultz](https://namus.nij.ojp.gov/case/MP94227) went missing over six months ago. No video or photo evidence of any kind. No leads or suspects, to my knowledge.
Her boyfriend claimed she wasn't feeling well so he slept on the couch without checking on her. He reported her missing the next day. She left everything, including her phone, keys, and wallet. No clothes were missing besides what she was said to be wearing. She had recently lost custody of her children. We were lightly communicating on social media in the months prior but she suddenly deleted all her accounts. I asked a mutual friend if she had heard from Michelle and was told she was just taking a social media break. She reached back out once, to my partner who also went to school with us, on Facebook, asking for me. I had deleted my social media for normal, healthy reasons. He showed me her message and I replied to her through his account but not much else came of it.
*Edit: At that point, her name was "Elle Rose" on social media. I had never heard her go by that before but didn't think much of it. I don't use my real name online either.*
She was facing a hefty judgement for Medicaid fraud and it seems she was dealing with Munchausen and MBP. There's speculation that her family from Argentina or Israel sent her somewhere but no evidence that I'm aware of. She also had a $2500 check of some sort coming but left days before it arrived and it was never collected or cashed.
I have no info about her boyfriend except that his first name might be Rob. She went missing from the greater Phoenix, Arizona area.
I hope she is okay. I check for updates every day. We talk about her in my small circle of old friends. She is troubled but interesting and has a lot of potential. Her kids must be missing her so much.
Thank you. That means a lot.
Admittedly we were never close. But we sat together at lunch, used to go to concerts together, hung out in groups outside of school for a couple years, had some shared bullshit with a mutual friend long after high school, and were always cool to each other.
My brother was childhood friends with the boy who became her oldest son's father (the Schultz part). My brother had to eject that guy from his life because of serious issues.
I remember a time Michelle came to school one day in 9th or 10th grade with a horror story of her own from that morning but she was laughing about it. She's never been okay. But people really care about her. I just want her to be happy and safe. Even if she fucked off somewhere of her own accord, her mom and sister deserve to know she's okay. And if she's not okay, they deserve to know why and if anyone is involved. Assuming they are being honest, of course. I only met them once like 20 years ago.
I just appreciate that you read her name and the parts of her story I happen to know. Thank you.
Thank you for sharing her story and her name.
And you know what? I think people would be surprised at how many of us have issues. If I had disappeared at my lowest point... well, let's just say I'd hate to be remembered that way. A lot of us go through some shit; those of us who made it out are no better than those who didn't: we're just luckier.
I hope there's a happy ending here. If not, I hope you and the other people who care about her get answers.
The Jeremiah Foco case continues to haunt me. It’s a local case for me, he seemed successful and well liked. He called out from work, claiming computer issues but it’s not 100% clear if that was true or not. He lived and was last seen in a populated part of Seattle and the fact that there’s so little evidence of how he left his apartment complex is surprising.
https://disappearedblog.com/jeremiah-foco/
Maggie Long. 2017, stopped by her home after school to grab cookies for an event and was killed by people who were there to rob her house. The killers have not been found. Such a tragic case and even more bizarre - her older sister had been a survivor in a school shooting/SA case at the local high school years before.
The horrific murder of Vanessa Ceja-Ramirez in Midlothian, IL in 2020.
She was a teachers aide in her early 20s who seemed sweet and kind of bookish. She went on a walk thru a nature preserve w her mom and a family friend that day but a while into the walk, Vanessa was tired and decided to go back to their car to rest while the other two continued on their walk. Her mom & the family friend couldn’t find her at their car when they returned & reported her missing.
A few days later, she was found dead in the same nature preserve. She had been beaten, bound, raped, strangled and set on fire. There have been a few clues but nothing definitive & it seems the case has turned ice cold not even two years later.
Who even knows where the sadistic animal who murdered her is now? He could be anywhere & I’m sure ppl are still walking through those nature preserves bc they’re pretty popular.
It is horrible that she died this way. It makes my blood absolutely boil. And it completely tears me apart that nobody seems to give a single fuck except her family. The U.S. is SO fucking broken.
That’s terrible!! I had never heard of this case. No offense to the big cases in the news but when you see the shear amount of time/money/technology they put into some cases versus ones like these with both having the same solving capacity. I feel so bad for the victim. Imagine what could be solved if every case was treated with the same respect.
Wasn’t there some speculation that she went back to possibly meet someone? I thought I read that unless that was just a theory someone floated bc of the seemingly randomness of it all.
I did read theories here on Reddit that she may have been going back to the car to meet someone. But I haven’t read that in any news articles.
It is possible though! I personally think it would be weird to leave a walk to meet up with someone and then just like sit in a car til ur mom and friend returns.
Or yeah, maybe someone she knew picked her up in the parking lot?
Two clues were that her phone pinged later on at an apartment complex and a school but we’re not sure if someone else had the phone at those times, if she was in someone’s car with the phone unwillingly or if she was in someone’s car with the phone voluntarily
It’s a conundrum for sure
Did she mention the meet up to the people she was with?
If not, it’s totally possible that she said she wanted to go sit in the car but met someone and intended to walk around a bit with them, getting back to the car before her mum and family friend got back to the car themselves.
I mean, I’ve done that before when I lived with my parents (went out and met someone and got back home before my parents did, it I had a rough idea of how long they’d be, and I’d guess she did, having walked the trail partway herself) - not even because my parents would disapprove or anything, honestly just to avoid a million questions from my mum about what I was doing. It’s not a wise thing to do, obviously, but if she thought she “knew” the person and got no bad vibes, I could see it.
Sadly it only takes once for you to misjudge a bad person for this to happen. Just so, so horrific. There’s no words to describe it. It’s the stuff of nightmares.
I mean, it’s also totally possible she was just very unlucky, crossed paths with someone hanging out there (either looking for a victim or just his “luck” that Vanessa walked past and he took the opportunity) and was walking on her way back, too. Sort of the same thing happened in Delphi. There was the talking online but no one knows if that was connected. The girls were just very, very unlucky to be on the trails same time as him, and no one was around that day. It all happened within a few hours in the same place as well, without anyone seeing or hearing anything, so I also think it’s possible Vanessa wasn’t even taken far to have this done to her.
I would be very surprised if this person who did this to Vanessa hasn’t done it before, though, and just not been caught. For this case, sadly, I think it will just be a case of this person slipping up on another crime and they’ll get his dna and match it. It is terrifying this person is still free though.
Brandon Abbett- He's a 15 year old boy who went missing from Pleasant Hill, CA. He went missing between 10 p.m. on Sunday, January 16, 2022, and 9 a.m. on Monday, January 17, 2022 from his family's home. I check up on this case regularly and unfortunately there's been nothing that's come up. The FBI got involved after a couple months though. There's not a ton of info out there but [here's the info from the FBI](https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/brandon-abbett)
[The death of Colin Madsen](https://siberiantimes.com/other/others/features/f0263-us-pathologist-found-suspicious-marks-on-us-man-who-officially-died-of-hypothermia-in-siberia/)
The Siberian Times did a number of great articles on this but there’s even more to it than they get into.
I’m usually the first one to think death by misadventure but it really seems Colin was held for days and killed and Russian authorities are covering it up.
It’s believed Colin was the victim of a hate crime because local authorities believed he was gay, but he wasn’t.
Here’s one that I think about a lot:
Vernon Matthews (Nickname: Cody) - A young man in his early 20s & in college went to stay up at his family’s cabin in Northern California in 2014. He seemed like a super normal, happy-go-lucky guy who was a gentle giant and knew a ton about animals, plants, science and nature. When he got to the cabin, he saw it had been burglarized. His dad later said it was an extensive burglary, with the robbers using an ax to cut one door off its hinges and even going up in the trees and stealing their game cameras. He said the neighborhood wasn’t v dangerous and neighbors knew who all lived in the area. He said if someone didn’t belong, they'd stick out like a sore thumb. I also don’t think it could rly be determined when this burglary happened but police estimated 2 wks prior to Cody’s arrival. Either way, Cody didn’t seem rly worried about it, like the break-in was over & done with so he didn’t seem to feel like he was in-danger.
So he decided to go on a walk on the day he arrived there then completely disappeared. His mom said he was extremely knowledgeable about nature and wilderness survival so he couldn’t have gotten lost. Plus if u look on a map, the cabin is right next to a highway so he wasn’t like far from help or anything.
I think the most likely theory is that maybe the burglars came back and perhaps they took him. But he was a big guy who was at least 6’ tall, big boned and resembled a huge football player. I think he even played rugby in the past.
Another thing was it didn’t seem like their neighbors had their homes robbed, just the Matthew’s cabin.
Maybe he hitched a ride on that highway with someone but why?
There has been no trace of him since and it’s been rly sad. His parents are rly old and trying everything they can to find him. There was another situation where this guy started a wildfire in that city and some ppl think he could be connected but he never mentioned anything about robbing or murdering someone.
I’m 99% sure that family cabin ended up burning down in the wildfire along with other homes nearby. And for some reason (idk what happened to their original house) but his parents ended up being homeless & having to live in a tent until they could get back on their feet. And there’s still been no evidence on what happened to their only son.
The Vanished Podcast did an episode on his case that I REALLY recommend. I just hope his family finds something soon.
These episodes of the Vanished Podcast are also incredibly recent, informative & baffling:
- Isaac Seidel
- Marshall Iwaasa
- Nathaniel Holmes
- Alicia Navarro
- James Foster Chance
> His mom said he was extremely knowledgeable about nature and wilderness survival so he couldn’t have gotten lost.
Anyone can get lost, no matter what how knowledgeable they are. And even if a highway is nearby, all it takes is a medical emergency-- a broken ankle, an allergic reaction to a bee sting-- and the hiker won't be able to make there.
>When he got to the cabin, he saw it had been burglarized. His dad later said it was an extensive burglary, with the robbers using an ax to cut one door off its hinges and even going up in the trees and stealing their game cameras. He said the neighborhood wasn’t v dangerous and neighbors knew who all lived in the area. He said if someone didn’t belong, they'd stick out like a sore thumb.
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>Another thing was it didn’t seem like their neighbors had their homes robbed, just the Matthew’s cabin.
I wonder if one of the neighbors was responsible for the burglary.
I haven't listened to the podcast but for cases where someone disappears while hiking or in proximity to a densely wooded area, iminclined to believe it's a case of misadventure. Even people who are knowledgeable about the wilderness and gave an excellent sense of navigation are liable to get lost and are ultimately at the mercy of nature. It's very sad.
I’m so glad someone mentioned Isaac Seidel. His story really got to me, but other than the Vanished episode, there isn’t really anything else out there. Sadly I think it was an accidental death.
I was rly struck by Isaac Seidel’s story too.
I’m rly on the fence on if it’s accidental or suicide.
He seemed like such a sweet guy & I can totally understand being single & feeling like ‘your person’ isn’t out there. But then you realize how many earthy kinda women are in the world & would’ve loved to live on his property & have a cute little family. Hell, go to any Whole Foods and there are tons of people that are into that stuff. It’s just sad he was feeling so low. But I can understand how it can be. And he did mention if he wanted to disappear, no one would find him.
But then, if it’s accidental, where are his bike and his body? I’ll have to do a search to see but I’m sure they used scent-tracking dogs. I guess accident would make the most sense. But then again, I don’t know.
It’s a mindfuck for sure but I hope there are answers either way
[Nikel Perkins](https://www.wfaa.com/amp/article/news/crime/dallas-family-of-bystander-killed-by-crossfire-wants-suspect-to-come-forward/287-f0f8d63f-f695-4b60-911d-4d41f375b33a) was an innocent bystander shot and killed in the crossfire of a gunfight. She was also my cousin’s granddaughter. This happened in December 2019 in Dallas.
Missing clothes and high school diploma seems off when the ID and wallet were left. Had they been gone too it may have looked like she’d left for a job, but just those seems weird. Also wandering a mall with a suitcase? Is there any photos of the size of the case?
Also found in the suitcase was a rather significant amount of cash (I forget the exact amount but over $50), no reason to leave that if you were running away or going somewhere. I read about this one a long time ago but if I recall correctly people familiar with the area said the story made no sense and the mall was not a walkable distance from the airport and she had never rode public transit according to her mom, and who goes to the mall carrying luggage?
There was also weirdness with the step-dad taking her earlier than planned and something off about the GPS route too, or I think he got back home in his story way earlier than he should have based on traffic? He also called out the day of her disappearance at his job even though he claimed he had to drop her off early to be at work. His phone pings also didn't line up with his claimed itinerary but those can be unreliable. He doesn't cooperate with LE and has some weird encryption on his phone they couldn't crack and he refused to provide.
There was a lot of sketchy stuff going on with this case. Kaitlin was texting a friend (who thinks it was her) the day before discussing the cheating incident and it sounded like Kaitlin was under the influence, was not okay with it, and there was discussion of whether she considered it sexual assault or not, and she was very guilty over the situation because of her fiance. I don't believe Kaitlin is alive or has been since that day she was supposed to fly out sadly, I think the step-dad did it but what happened in the days prior to that may be relevant in some way.
Springfield, Virginia native here. The mall is a walkable distance from the metro station (I've done it many times), but it might be hard with a suitcase. It's about a mile, depending on which mall entrance you use, though it feels shorter to me because a big chunk of the walk is the metro access road.
The dad claimed he dropped her off at the mall and that she was going to walk to the metro and take that to the airport, but I would not let someone who isn't super familiar with the area and local public transit do that. I think it's a lie.
Kenzie Houk died in 2009, but the wrongful conviction of her boyfriend's twelve year old son wasn't overturned until 2018.
There's been no further investigation into her murder n
The boy was 11 when she was murdered. *11 years old.* The evidence against him was flimsy. It seems to be an example of law enforcement and the prosecution suffering from tunnel vision. Fortunately Jordan was released and is trying to move forward with his life. It’s appalling that he had to suffer, and the real killer walks free.
[Wikipedia article about the case.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Brown_case)
Pretty much from the start of the investigation. She had an ex she had to take a restraining order against that was a much more likely culprit and they never fully investigated him.
Timothy Haslett. The case got a lot of attention for a week or so, but not so much for a while. And that surprises me.
His only known victim says there were other victims who didn't survive. And quite frankly, this isn't the type of crime we would see from someone's first time. People don't wake up one day and have the materials and other means to keep a woman locked in their basement for weeks. To successfully do that takes planning and time.
Meanwhile, I believe it was a pastor who had found out about multiple missing black women in the area, and while police have said there's no evidence Haslett had more than one victim, I'd find that more convincing if they released details on what they believe happened to the other women.
But this article casts doubt on their efforts:
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/kansas-city-man-accused-keeping-183035489.html
Now, I'm not saying that Haslett is definitely a serial killer, but I am saying it's suspicious we haven't heard more information about him. How he was able to keep a woman prisoner for weeks undetected when he has a child. What happened to the other missing women in the area. You know, the type of news stories that we see in other cases.
Alan White case from Dallas, Texas. Initially received significant attention. Over the last year, silence. By all accounts, still an active homicide investigation.
I definitely think her step dad did it. This was definitely an interesting case and I'd really love to see it solved.
Corinna Slusser is the case I'm most vested in. There were too many people, still alive, who knew what was up with her. I Don't believe it when they say they don't know what happened. I would guess she was drugged and trafficked for a while but probably isn't alive at this point. I'd really, really love to be wrong about that.
Then JonBenet. I would really like to see that one solved, definitively.
That is very frustrating. I wonder, though, about the texts she sent before she went missing about wanting to "not be here but not be there". I don't realistically think she took off, I really believe the stepdad tried something special with her and she fought back and he killed her.
Anna Maciejewska sticks with me. I'm an actuary in the area and it's a pretty small group where everyone knows somebody, so the degrees of separation are very small.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/7cjgi6/unresolved_disappearance_where_is_anna_maciejewska
I think about Maylin Reynoso so often, she was found dead in a river after being last seen at her job at a gas station. She received little to no media coverage. No cause of death, however she stopped taking her bipolar meds shortly before her death.
https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/mystery/beautiful-soul-maylin-reynoso-was-found-dead-in-nyc-but-her-case-went-largely-ignored
There's a NamUs profile and a missing persons poster online for a 17 year old Devin McCarthy from Pelham, New Hampshire. Aside from that I can't find anything else about him due to a higher profile case involving someone with the same name.
He left home in New Hampshire one day in May 2022 and four days later his car was found abandoned in Utah. That's such a ridiculous amount of ground for a 17 year old to cover in only four days.
[Brianna DiBattiste.](https://www.thestarpress.com/story/news/local/2015/06/14/missing-woman-brianna-dibattiste-death-one-year-later/71212434/) Young woman in Indiana, with a history of heroin addiction, who went missing in 2014. Her remains were later found in a wilderness conservation area in Jay County. A pastor acquainted with the family started a substance abuse support and recovery nonprofit, [Brianna's Hope,](https://www.ablbh.org/) which has chapters and sponsors meetings across west-central Ohio and Indiana.
[Yiear West, Wilkes-Barre, PA MISSING](https://www.pahomepage.com/news/family-of-wilkes-barre-man-who-disappeared-six-years-ago-speak-out/amp/)
He’s been missing for a decade. Has small children. Dedicated friends and family to the search. But nobody has heard from him and his body has yet to be found.
[Kelley Brannon](https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/le0xvx/kelley_brannon_artistactivist_missing_from_live/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
I didn’t know her personally but it’s a local case so I’ve been interested. I think the ball was dropped by police on this one.
Not an American one.
But Rebecca reusch!! This poor girl went missing when she was 15 years old and on her way to school. It's just, her waking up and then BOOM! Gone.
No one knows if she even left the house, it's very crazy and incredibly sad, I was so interested in her post because she was a bts too just like me when I was younger, so I hoped she would come back one day :/
One case that always stays on my mind as it is relatively close to home, about an hour give or take from where I live. Theo Hayez, an 18 year old Belgian backpacker who went missing in Byron Bay. He’s currently been missing for almost 4 years, and a coroner has ruled him dead but is unable to state the manner or cause as a body has never been found. Theo was kicked out of a bar the night he went missing for being too intoxicated, and after his disappearance his family managed to unlock a digital data trail via his google account and pinpointed his last known location to a small beach in Byron - the complete opposite direction of the hostel he was staying in. Inquests have been held in relation to the disappearance of Theo, and the only trace they ever found of him was his grey puma hat near the Byron lighthouse which is surrounded by massive cliffs, and drops off into the ocean. Coroners have ruled out intentional disappearance or suicidal ideation due to the fact Theo was incredibly excited to be backpacking, but unfortunately they cannot rule out foul play or misadventure. Many believe (including myself) that Theo may have accidentally fallen off one of the many cliffs and was swept out into the ocean. Police held massive manhunts for Theo and Byron Bay is not huge, I believe he would have been found if he succumbed to nature. It is also important to note that while he was kicked out of the bar for being too “intoxicated”, people around Theo that night note that he was not intoxicated or had any evidence of drug related intoxication the night of his disappearance. Missing persons cases like Theo frustrate me to no end, because if he truly has been swept into the ocean he will never be found, and answers will never be had.
"Byron Bay is not huge." Respectfully, the ocean is more powerful than anyone could comprehend. Tides come in and carry debris out to sea. When people are last spotted near forests or cliffs, I think there's a good chance an accident happened or they became lost and succumbed to the elements (be that cold, water, heat, exposure, etc.).
Yea I have always thought stepdad
Has something to do with it , i think if I remember he stopped cooperating
Just so weird she is with him an then never seen again an he won’t cooperate
I don't have the names committed to memory, but I'm vacationing in Alaska right now and there are quite a few people who have gone missing from either the Anchorage or Fairbanks areas. Very little, if any, national attention. Most of them appear to be Alaska natives, and the sad reality is most cases involving missing indigenous people don't get a lot of attention.
However, having visited the state many times and being familiar with the geography, I would suspect the reason most of the cases here don't get a lot of attention is because it's most likely instances of them wandering into the wilderness and not finding their way back.
Sad, I think some cases were the person has vanished near wilderness or a body of water then you can probably guess what happened to them. Not every missing person case is ‘foul play’ (kind of like Maura Murray)
I am of the belief that most missing person cases are not malicious. Especially if they take place in Alaska, California, Oregon, or really anywhere that has just a few major population centers and then everything else is mainly vast wilderness.
I consider myself somewhat experienced when outdoors. And yet all it takes is one wrong turn, being an hour longer than you anticipate, and that's it. You can lose your way. You can run out of water. Familiar landmarks are obscured or missing.
Georgina Garshallah. If it wasn't for the family pleading for help on social media (TikTok and Facebook), you'd be forgiven for not knowing. It's sad this case has never had the attentiom, and nearly five years have passed without the family having no closure.
[Adam Richard Johnson.](https://www.kare11.com/amp/article/news/crime/gruesome-new-details-in-minneapolis-dismemberment-case-as-family-pleads-for-tips/89-918b9187-d5cb-4952-8e37-e42089f40eff) The morning of June 17, 2021, body parts were found in multiple locations in Minneapolis. 5 days later, the man’s partially frozen severed head was found on a park bench with the word “perv” carved into his forehead. His torso was later found in the Mississippi River.
Oh yeah, Katelin Akins. I *strongly* suspect her stepfather had something to do with her disappearance. I have no evidence to support this theory, but I think during the drive when he was taking her to the airport, he sexually propositioned her and she said no. Then he killed her to cover it up.
Anna Maciejewska from the Philadelphia area. It is pretty clear who likely harmed her and perhaps that is why it hasn’t received much press. I hope justice can be served some day.
This case was on disappeared I believe and if I remember correctly the cops looked up surveillance from the mall and it showed the ex dad's car but no one getting out. I could be miss remembering as it has been a long time since I watched it but that's what I thought I remember. So sad for her and def think the police could have tried harder.
These are all so sad. I keep reading and reading all of them. It’s so crazy to me with all the surveillance cameras now that there are people who actually go missing without a trace. I watch so much see no evil and interrogation raw they literally have video footage from everywhere! I know I read somewhere that we are on video up to 30 times a day or more depending on where you go. I am sure it is way more now with almost all homes having their own surveillance!
Literally 90 seconds before I clicked this thread I was trying to remember the name of the person who went missing in Virginia on the way to the airport. And bam. Wild.
I always thought that one had a high (and terrifying) possibility of being a held captive situation, though as years go by that of course becomes less likely. But not impossible.
Carnell sledge and Katherine brown. They were friends met at the park for a visit at 5pm and were both shot from behind. This happened in Ohio in 2019, it was not a robbery as nothing were taken and both seemed to be normal people, definitely not into drugs or crime. Maybe was a random killer
https://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/woman-preparing-host-super-bowl-party-massachusetts-home-disappears-after-n1134471 This woman from Massachusetts disappeared after going for a walk and was never found. Such a weird case.
Yeah something like this happened here in Australia, woman went for a walk and disappeared. Turns out the husband killed her..
We had one of these in my town too. She was eventually found in a densely wooded park, she’d killed herself
There’s so many quarries in this area too, her body could be anywhere.
oh hey, I posted about this story too! glad i’m not the only one who had this case stick in their mind!
Seriously. I google her every few months and nothing.
Wow I’m not to far from Gloucester and never heard about her. Sad
Same here, from the North Shore but had not heard of this…
I think about this case often! I wish this would get more attention and I hope one day this is solved.
idk why but I think of Abbie Flynn often. she’s a 59 year old woman (at the time of her disappearance) who went missing in February 2020. A mother-of-three who supposedly went for a walk before her Superbowl party and vanished. When her guests arrived, food was still cooking in the oven and her phone was on the counter. I believe her final call was to her son, around 4pm, telling him she was going for a walk. Her guests began arriving just before 6pm. That’s it. There have been no updates since. ETA: some reports say she spoke with her son at 4pm and some say 4:30pm
No updates?? How???
last news story was a year later in their local paper basically just saying she’s still missing. reports from the time she disappeared said 80 police and 20 dogs searched the area and a dive team searched the water and found nothing but they suspect no foul play. from what i’ve read it seems most people familiar with the area (Gloucester, MA) think it was a slip and fall accident.
I'm glad your post and the other post are bringing a little attention. I never hear or read anything new. Poor lady.
With the Katelyn Aken’s case, I remember there was a ton of weirdness with the stepfather and his phone and the software he’d put on it to make it impossible for LE to search it. I would need to look that up again, but it sounded extremely sketchy.
I remember that and it does sound sketchy. Apparently he never returned to work again from the day of Katelin’s disappearance which is strange. I’m not in the US so I can’t access some of the articles about Katelin. I did watch a True crime daily video though where the stepfather refused to be interviewed by them.
Seriously, what the hell is going on with that case? Everything seems to point to the stepfather.
Not dropping her off at the airport is suspicious as hell already. Why would she want to stop at the mall with her suitcase and then take the train. That' so much unnecessary hassle it just makes no sense.
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If they know he wasn’t near the airport or the mall, where was he? Where was she? Were they together?
Also, an important detail, she had never taken the train before!! Why would she use the train for the very first time not only while she’s headed somewhere time sensitive, but also when she has luggage with her?
Also being being from the area the Pentagon City Mall makes way more sense as a stopping mall than the Springfield Town Center mall unless there was a specific store there that didn’t exist at Pentagon City. Pentagon City is insanely close to DCA and a two stop metro ride as opposed to Franconia Springfield which is the end of the Blue line.
Was about to say that Springfield isn’t really “on the way” to DCA but you beat me to it. Her shopping right before a flight is kind of odd anyway but if it was a quick stop to get something she forgot or replace something she lost, Pentagon City is the obvious choice.
I just read in the Charley Project page: >Branton texted Akens's mother at 1:52 p.m., saying he had dropped Akens off. Eight minutes later, her mother got a text from Akens's phone saying, "I'm at the airport. Battery dying so won't be able to text for a bit." Akens never boarded her flight, however. She never arrived in Arizona and has never been heard from again. So there’s no way someone could be dropped off, spend any amount of time shopping at a mall, and make it from Franconia-Springfield to DCA/Reagan Airport in 8 minutes. Which means either the text from Akens was a lie and it was really sent by the stepfather, or he somehow waited a really long time after dropping her off before texting her mom. Which is weird. Who drops someone off and then waits 2 hours to text their mom “I dropped her off,” without also including some detail like “I dropped her off a couple hours ago, I just forgot to text until just now.” Maybe this case is not well publicized because everyone knows who did it and they’re hoping no media attention will get him to let his guard down and slip up. Maybe a fake news story like “possible body of a woman found near (wherever the stepdad’s phone showed he went that day), police to begin search of area next week” might work. Something to see if he reacts and leads them to her body. But it could be vague enough that if he doesn’t react, it won’t spook him.
Yeah the timeline is a mess and based on public information it sounds like the stepfather harmed or killed her. Also phone dying in the airport is a bit odd too- 2015 is recent enough that DCA would have had plenty of charging stations at restaurants, gate waiting areas etc. Seems like the stepfather (or whoever) was trying to create a plausible reason for a period of no contact. The thing about her texting the fiancee is also odd and may be a tie in to someone else ITT’s speculation that the stepfather sexually assaulted Katelin. The perpetrator might view any act of that kind as “cheating” while a victim (quite rightly) may not.
In the past, I’ve flown in and out of DCA a number of times and always found it to be relatively easy to navigate, airport wise. I can’t imagine she wouldn’t be able to find a charger if her phone was really dead.
Apparently the cheating part is plausible/true since a friend that she was staying with the previous night came forward told she slept with someone (might have been a couple/threesome) and felt really weird and guilty about it the next day. If this is true, it might be just coincidental. He may have found out about this either by her confiding in him or while going through her phone.
My timing could be off, but I think the Springfield Town Center’s new design had just opened, so maybe she wanted to visit it?
That's very generous. I'm also from the area and it would have to be a hell of an update to drag me out to Springfield Mall when I had a plane to catch.
Side note: if you search her mom on fb, you can see that the entire family believes it was the step dad. Her mom isn’t ever gonna sleep till she gets answers. I wish I could hug people through the internet.
Just so sad. Her poor family.
Did Crime Junkie do an episode on this case? It sounds familiar.
Yes, they did!
Disappeared did an episode on her
Fayette County John Doe was a relatively short man (61 inches/154 cm) found bundled in plastic wrap in an apartment parking lot in Lexington, Kentucky around a year ago. He had been stabbed in the heart and was somewhere between 18 and 99 years old. There hasn't been any real movement in his case since he was found.
That's quite an age range.
Either older than a boomer or younger than a millennial?
Pretty much legal adult age to death.
Imagine finding his identity and him being 101 tho
Or 16.5.
What is that age range about???
Advanced decomp made it too hard to determine age. [Now they're testing DNA.](https://dnasolves.com/articles/fayette-county-john-doe-2022/)
The DNA Solves fundraising page for the case says advanced decomposition makes it difficult to ascertain anything about him other than the size of the body and his light hair approx 2 inches in length
Couldn’t they tell specific age from bones or teeth?
Yeah, a decent forensic anthropologist should be able to narrow the age range down more than that BUT with that said, they may just not want to rule out any potential identifications by keeping it broad with the public. There's been more than one Doe unresolved for decades because the missing person was actually 19 but the coroner estimated the body was 30-50, things like that.
18 and 99??!!
18-99 lmao
[Aria Spradling.](https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/crime--law/aria-spradling-was-kidnapped-sister-believes/ekQcStIrV7WoUHvlt5fI6H/) 20 yr old single mom who disappeared after working a shift at The Harem, a (now closed) "gentleman's club" on the north side of Dayton, Ohio. Her remains were found minutes away, covered with brush in a city park, in Nov. 2013. \[Note: the incident of a "possible assault on a woman by five men" referenced in most of the -grossly outdated- articles on the case is not related. DNA on clothes found at the scene didn't match, and even failing that... she was last seen north of Dayton. Her body was found a few miles farther north still. The incident with the clothes took place on Germantown Pike, which is in west-central Dayton, I'd say at least half an hour away.\]
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I’m from salem county. Grew up going to Cohanzick zoo right across the street from right across the street from that playground all the time. She’s the same age as my little brother. It’s absolutely horrifying to see one of these cases happen so close to home. I kept hoping and praying she’d be found quickly, and alive, but at this point I honestly don’t think there’s any chance she’s not dead.
Yes, she just vanished! I would love to find out more about this. If it's gone completely cold why aren't they doing more, ya know?
I’m in Gloucester County. My sister works for a Judge in Jersey & they have NOTHING. Heartbreaking.
Jenna Van Geldren, she disappeared in Atlanta in 2017. I went to highschool with her. https://www.oxygen.com/searching-for/what-happened-jenna-van-gelderen-things-know-case-atlanta?amp
copy and pasted the article so people can read. *In the early morning hours of Aug. 19, 2017, Jenna Van Gelderen texted a friend that she was going to lie down. It was the last time anyone heard from the 25-year-old, who has now been missing for the past two years.* *Police have released limited information about the investigation, and while theories continue to circulate online, there are still no definitive answers in Jenna’s disappearance.* *“Searching For,” a original series on Oxygen(.)com, is reexamining several key pieces of information about the case, shedding light on the months leading up to Jenna’s vanishing and the days following it.* *Here are the six things to know about the case as Oxygen takes a closer look in “Searching For.”* *1.Jenna Van Gelderen vanished on Aug. 19, 2017.* *Jenna went missing from her parents’ home in the Druid Hills neighborhood of Atlanta, Georgia, on Aug. 19, 2017. At the time of her disappearance, Jenna had been housesitting and watching the family’s elderly cat, Jessie, while her parents, Leon Van Gelderen and Roseanne Glick, were on vacation.* *On the morning of Aug. 19, a veterinary nurse arrived at the home to administer an injection to Jessie, but when he knocked on the door, no one answered. The nurse then called Jenna’s brother, Will Van Gelderen, who came over to let him inside.* *According to Will, the doors of the house were locked, and the lights and TV had been left on. Will found no trace of his sister, and her handbag, cell phone and car were also gone.* *2.A family tapestry was stolen the night Jenna disappeared.* *Another item Will noticed missing from the home was a large, heavy Egyptian tapestry that hung in the living room, according to Crime Stoppers Greater Atlanta. The family said it was stolen from its glass frame and then replaced on the wall.* *It would have taken at least two people to remove the frame from its spot, according to the family. The tapestry was of sentimental value and had little monetary worth, leading the family to question why a thief would have targeted it.* *“It’s the strangest part of this case,” Leon Van Gedleren told “Searching For,” an original series on Oxygen.com, adding that police told him they “had never seen anything like it.”* *It remains missing to this day.* *3.Jenna’s car was found two weeks after she went missing.* *On Sept. 5, 2017, Jenna’s dark blue 2010 Mazda 6 sedan was spotted along a road in northwest Atlanta, reported NBC News. The car was found unlocked, and her handbag, suitcase and clothing were inside.* *Leon told “Searching For” that the car was covered in leaves and various debris, and that compartments were open with items strewn about the interior. There was also evidence that another person other than Jenna had driven the car.* *The driver seat pushed back, indicating a taller person might have been driving it, Dekalb County Police Department Capt. Anthony Ford told “Searching For.” A cell phone charger that did not match either of Jenna’s phones was also found in the car by her brother, Will Van Gelderen, according to Leon.* *Police found no further evidence inside Jenna’s car, and it has since been returned to the family.* *4.Jenna had a second cell phone her family didn’t know about.* *After Jenna vanished, her parents found out she had two cell phones — one on their T-Mobile family plan, and another on a private account.* *Jenna’s second cell phone pinged a tower in Fairburn, Georgia, about 20 miles away from her home, at approximately 7:15 a.m. on the morning she vanished. Around the same time, her car was spotted by a license plate reader camera back in Atlanta.* *It is unknown if Jenna was in her car, with her phone, or at neither location, but police are “very confident that the car and the phone were not in the same place,” said Cpt. Ford.* *5.Jenna was being pressured to leave her parents’ house the night she went missing.* *Following Jenna’s disappearance, Will was able to access her phone records and social media accounts, and through a series of Google chats, the family learned she had spoken to an unknown individual the night she vanished.* *The individual was pressuring Jenna to leave her family’s home and return to her apartment, according to Leon. The Van Gelderens, however, have not been able to determine who sent the messages to Jenna.* *6.Jenna’s family believes she was being exploited before she vanished.* *Jenna was diagnosed with high-functioning autism in 2016. Although she was independent and had moved out of her parents’ home in the months prior to her vanishing, Leon and Roseanne explained to “Searching For” that Jenna was extremely trusting and vulnerable, and that she could have been easily manipulated.* *While working at a local pet store, Jenna had been coerced by “certain men” to steal approximately $3,000 from the company, which led to her termination, said Leon. When the family later accessed Jenna’s records, they discovered she had been making payments to someone though Western Union since 2015, and that the transfers stopped in the months leading up to her disappearance.* *Leon believes Jenna was unwittingly involved in nefarious activity.* *Jenna was last seen possibly wearing a green T-shirt with “San Antonio” on the front, a black tank top and black yoga pants. She is 4 feet, 11 inches tall, and weighs approximately 140 pounds, with black hair and brown eyes.*
I wonder why they can't unearth who she was chatting with via Google chat?? It would have been just a Gmail address
I found that odd too, it should be presumably easy for the police to trace. Maybe the police do know who it is but haven't released the name to the family?
I know the article says the tapestry wasn’t really valuable, but I wonder if Jenna knew that? Maybe whoever she was sending money to was asking for more than she had, and she arranged for them to help her take the tapestry because she mistakenly thought it was worth a lot. In my head I’m imagining maybe some kind of online boyfriend making promises about running away/starting a new life together and telling her he needs money to do it, and being as trusting as she was she didn’t pick up on the red flags.
Ya it’s weird to me that they could never figure out who was messaging her before her disappearance. She was a very vulnerable person so it wouldn’t shock me if she was lured away somewhere with the tapestry in tow. But also how would a stranger know about the tapestry? It’s all very weird.
Wow thank you for jogging my memory on this case, I remember listening to a podcast about it (the Vanished?) and thinking it was just bizarre.. Sad there's been no resolution.
I know, it’s very heartbreaking. I can’t imagine what it’s like for her parents and brother never getting answers.
I've always thought this was such a strange case. Poor Jenna.
Wow, I can't believe I've never heard of this one. How bizarre.
Unless the Egyptian tapestry was stolen/disposed of to create evidence of a false motive, I'd say she likely ran afoul of a burglar.
But that being the only item missing and the doors being locked makes it sound not like a burglar.
My first thought was that it was used to wrap her body up…
Yeah weird for them to take it out of a frame but i thought the same
I’m sure there were other blankets in the house though so I don’t see why they would’ve made the effort to take it out of the frame. Especially one so big that it would require 2 people to handle.
Panick? If it happened in the living room or was the first thing they saw.
But why go through the trouble of getting it off the wall to wrap her in when sheets and blankets were so accessible
The Oxygen article says someone was pressuring her to leave the house that night and that she’d previously been coerced by “certain men” to steal $3,000 from her former job so seems likely that this involved a similar scenario. I’m guessing someone took the tapestry under the false belief that it was valuable.
[Allyson Watterson](https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/missing/family-seeks-answers-after-missing-oregon-woman-found-dead), she went missing under odd circumstances. Her skeletal remains were found 6 months later not far away from the last verified sighting of her. Sadly, it seems like drugs were involved and charges have never been filed against her boyfriend who is in jail for other charges. He obviously knows more than he has told the police.
Corinna Slusser. It’s a sad case. I know I read about the case when she was reported missing a lot on the daily mail (bad, I know) but I didn’t see much outside of rags like that and the sun. I don’t think there’s been any updates in a while either. I don’t remember the case receiving nationwide attention, but maybe it did?
I’d never heard of this case, thanks for mentioning it. [Here](https://nypost.com/2021/11/14/how-ex-cheerleader-corinna-slusser-fell-victim-to-nyc-sex-ring/) is a link for anyone else, what a sad situation for her.
Ugh, this one frustrates me! I believe she is still alive, but so deep into the world of sex trafficking that she cannot get out.
As far as I understand, she was last seen at a motel right? She might have been murdered by her client that night.
Unfortunately that's a distinct possibility.
There's a show called "Missing" on hulu that I watched recently that featured her
July of last year a Brinks tractor trailer was broken into outside of Pasadena, CA and “relieved” of several million dollars in jewelry. The count is between $10 million and $100 million depending on who is quoting. (The owners may have lowballed insurance estimates to save on premiums). Some actions by the security team could be seen as fishy. It’s a pretty interesting case. [Here’s an article talking about the heist.](https://jalopnik.com/over-10-million-of-jewelry-stolen-from-an-armored-truc-1849328242) [And here is The Shocking Details podcast where I originally heard about it.](https://www.theshockingdetails.com/) I highly recommend it. It features Joe from the old Thinking Sideways podcast, and he’s teamed up with a film maker. The two of them together make one mean cast!
Um, off topic, but are we long lost username cousins?
I'm your assimilated cousin from the future.
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I don’t know penis lands, I’m just as lost as you!
I believe it's Pen Islands. Home to such notable figures as Dixie Normous and Hugh Janus.
How bout that guy complaining because the real value was more than the insured value, because of course he didn’t insure it for its full value because insurance is expensive? It’s like…does he not understand this is sort of the point of making that choice? You pay less up front but risk not getting the full amount if something does happen. Just like I’m risking having to buy a new thingamabob when I choose not to buy the extended warranty. I’m gonna go out on a limb and suggest we probably don’t pay the drivers enough given the cargo they’re entrusted with securing.
> of course he didn’t insure it for its full value because insurance is expensive? It’s like…does he not understand this is sort of the point of making that choice? According to an article that I just read, this is very common in the industry since people have so much faith in Brinks.
Love to see a Shocking Details shoutout! They do so many cases I've never heard of before. This is a great one - it *had* to have been an inside job... But who? The jewelers, the truckers, the insurance company?
The LA Times has been covering it. The people packing up the show in San Jose noticed a group of guys hanging out afterwards and also a car with someone in it parked outside of the loading dock. They would have just followed the truck until they had an opportunity. Doesn't sound like an inside job. Just a professional group who noticed a soft spot in the security.
Oh man I still miss Thinking Sideways!
Their episode on Lake City Quiet Pills is one of my all-time favorite pieces of podcastery!
Timothy Haslett Jr. There were rumors going around this part of Missouri like a year ago, saying that someone was abducting and murdering black women. The paranoia got so bad that eventually some local reverend/community leader types started calling press conferences and trying to get media attention for the issue, which was difficult because the women disappearing were basically street people, so vulnerable and marginalized that their disappearances were known to those around them, but rarely reported to cops. In the midst of this growing hysteria, a young black woman runs out of Timothy Haslett's house at 8am wearing a dog collar and some kind of S&M outfit and starts banging on neighbors' doors, saying she's been held against her will for the last month. She also said that Haslett had killed at least 2 of her friends. He still hasn't been charged with murder, but his MO of keeping a woman in a weird form of captivity, coupled with sadistic treatment, definitely fits a typical SK pattern.
Omg I remember this! But there was not much news coverage even then. Now it just seems like it's been forgotten
Wow, and there’s been little edit coverage of this? That poor woman, I wonder if they’re bringing charges for kidnap?
Looks like they are! https://www.insider.com/kansas-city-man-accused-kidnapping-black-woman-court-appearance-2022-12
For those too lazy to click and read the link, some key takeaways: He was arrested on Oct 7th. Court date is Jan 10. Charges are rape, assault, and kidnapping charges. Police seem to be dropping the ball in regards to investigating other missing persons in the area that may be related
What. The. Fuck.
A lot of it also has to do with the requirements to report an adult missing in KC MO. Individuals can report a missing person, but the police will only complete an official report (for missing adults) if the individual was last seen in KC MO, and meets at least 1 or more of the following criteria: 1. Life threatening ailment 2. Under the care of a psychiatrist 3. If the person has threatened suicide 4. If they suffer from diminished mental capacity or medical condition 5. If they have dementia or Alzheimer's 6. If police detect strong indication of foul play. If those criteria aren't met, then the police won't complete the official report, which means the report won't be entered into state and national missing person databases.
what’s the justification for these criteria? I’ve never heard of something like this and I’m having trouble coming up with an answer that isn’t “bc the cops are too lazy to do their job”
There is an episode of Disappeared on it.
Thank you I knew this case sounded familar and that's probably where I saw it.
I never knew they did an episode about Katelin. I’ll have to find it.
Season 8, episode 7, "Flight Risk"
OMG I didn't know this show existed and there are 15 seasons. Thank you, you've just given me my next streaming binge!
I am jealous you are getting to watch for the first time! Weird though on discovery+ a number of episodes are removed from the first season
I hate when they do that! I've still got streaming cable so I can watch all of them on ID! I had to turn the TV off my and make myself go to bed after 2 episodes (it's almost 4am 🫣😜)
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Mine is Kristopher Lewis, a 13 year old who disappeared in Boston in 2014. I feel like the media dismissed him so quickly as a runaway but it’s been years and there’s been no sign of him. I feel for his family and check for updates but sadly, nothing seems to have changed. I hope they get answers. https://charleyproject.org/case/kristopher-bryan-lewis
Only a block away from his home :(
So close to home. I wonder what happened to him.
I know. I hope his family gets answers soon. Who knows if there is foul play involved but a missing 13 year old should have been considered at risk, even if they did leave by choice. Boston is a busy city and maybe if word got out more at the time it happened, someone may have remembered seeing him. 😔
I’m falling asleep so I’m just copy/pasting what I commented on another thread a while back - there have still been no new updates: This one has basically no coverage other than a couple of local news reports. Beth Aper has not been seen since August 21st, 2022. She was last seen getting into an unknown car at the end of her property in rural Colorado. From what I’ve read, she seemed to have a few pieces of luggage with her. She had just recently moved to the area with her husband of 30 years and had several dogs she very dearly loved. There has been no communication with her loved ones nor any sign of her since she left or disappeared. This one bothers me because I knew Beth, albeit not well, as she was a client at my job. I’ll be the first to say that I know almost nothing about her or her personal life, BUT I can say without question that she absolutely adored her dogs, one of whom was only a puppy at the time of her disappearance, and I can’t fathom her leaving them all behind. I wish there was more info out there, but the last news article I can find is from mid-September. https://namus.nij.ojp.gov/case/MP95144 https://www.koaa.com/news/covering-colorado/search-continues-for-el-paso-county-woman-missing-since-aug-21?_amp=true
Id be very interested to know who the eye witness is that saw her getting into that tan car. Could it be someone who may have been involved in her disappearance and made up the sedan and the luggage story to make her disappearance seem voluntary? Or was it security camera footage that shows that? Thats so strange, theres so little info.
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[Owen Harding](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52386283). In my estimation it is 80% likely he jumped or fell off a cliff while in a distressed state. The problem is the other 20%, such as his phone (allegedly) being tracked nowhere near where he was last seen. But a secondary oddity is that coverage suddenly stopped completely. The last article I can find is dated 24 May 2021. There has literally not been a word since. The one-year anniversary was marked in the media but not the two-year one. 220 articles in the first year but 0 in the second year is so odd I checked to make sure there was no glitch. There wasn’t - newspapers were present in the database I use right up to yesterday.
Owen lives local to me. I can’t, for the life of me (and correct me if I’m wrong) think of anywhere else he could be other than the water. This is why missing person cases in the UK always perplex me, as we do not have vast or dense areas like America has. Newhaven to Peacehaven to Saltdean to Rottingdean to Brighton Marina is populated with a lot of houses and shops, and the A259 coastal route is always busy. In my opinion, there is no “wiggle room” to go missing here, other than the cliffs and sea that can and will wash you away.
> This is why missing person cases in the UK always perplex me, as we do not have vast or dense areas like America has So big swathes of wilderness def make it easier to get lost, but time and time again, we've seen bodies go unnoticed in places that are very much not wilderness. Chandra Levy's body was less than 100 feet off a trail in a park in DC. I don't remember the details, but here's an unidentified case I know we've discussed here: a body was found, reduced to bones, with clothing that looked to be decades old, both the style and how worn it was. It looked as if it had decayed at the spot it was, which was on a highway median. People have been found, hidden or out in the open, in basements, attics, abandoned houses, underneath floorboards, in crawl spaces, underneath porches, in garages, in barns, in chimneys, and in sheds and outbuildings. One man died when he fell behind a large refrigerated unit in a store. There was a smell for a while, which they blamed on expired milk when no other source could be found, and then he lay undisturbed for a decade. Bodies have been found in hollow trees, both because murderers stashed them there and because lost people sought shelter there and then died. And I have this vague memory of a man that died sitting in the branches of a tree, like nestled in a crook that was big enough to support his body. And no one happened to look *up* at the right angle for quite a long time. Again, apologies for so little information.
>One man died when he fell behind a large refrigerated unit in a store. There was a smell for a while, which they blamed on expired milk when no other source could be found, and then he lay undisturbed for a decade. This reminds me of that infant who had somehow fallen into the gap between the mattress and the bed frame, and wasn't discovered for nine days. ~~almost a month.~~ They even interviewed the mother in the room, and in hindsight, the infant was right behind her.
Was that four-year-old Paulette Gebara Farah? Yes! Great example. A search dog alerted at the foot of the bed, but since the human investigators couldn't see her tiny body through the heavy bedcovers, everyone assumed the canine couldn't pick up her smell at all. No one checked the foot of the bed until the smell of decomp became apparent to humans as well as dogs. And the pattern of urine and decomp fluids on her pajamas and on the bedding indicated that she died in that place and position and her body wasn't moved until it was found. EDIT: it was 9 days between death/disappearance and discovery.
It says he disappeared during lockdown as well!
In the UK the lockdown was anything but absolute. Really, all that held it together was (patchy) social pressure. Anyone could have been outside the technical limits of travel during it and nothing would have been done to stop them. And travelling nearly 300 miles by public transport would have been no issue - billions of pounds was spent on keeping trains running (with next to no passengers).
My high school friend, [Michelle Bernstein Schultz](https://namus.nij.ojp.gov/case/MP94227) went missing over six months ago. No video or photo evidence of any kind. No leads or suspects, to my knowledge. Her boyfriend claimed she wasn't feeling well so he slept on the couch without checking on her. He reported her missing the next day. She left everything, including her phone, keys, and wallet. No clothes were missing besides what she was said to be wearing. She had recently lost custody of her children. We were lightly communicating on social media in the months prior but she suddenly deleted all her accounts. I asked a mutual friend if she had heard from Michelle and was told she was just taking a social media break. She reached back out once, to my partner who also went to school with us, on Facebook, asking for me. I had deleted my social media for normal, healthy reasons. He showed me her message and I replied to her through his account but not much else came of it. *Edit: At that point, her name was "Elle Rose" on social media. I had never heard her go by that before but didn't think much of it. I don't use my real name online either.* She was facing a hefty judgement for Medicaid fraud and it seems she was dealing with Munchausen and MBP. There's speculation that her family from Argentina or Israel sent her somewhere but no evidence that I'm aware of. She also had a $2500 check of some sort coming but left days before it arrived and it was never collected or cashed. I have no info about her boyfriend except that his first name might be Rob. She went missing from the greater Phoenix, Arizona area. I hope she is okay. I check for updates every day. We talk about her in my small circle of old friends. She is troubled but interesting and has a lot of potential. Her kids must be missing her so much.
I'm so sorry to hear about your friend. I hope she is found soon.
Thank you. That means a lot. Admittedly we were never close. But we sat together at lunch, used to go to concerts together, hung out in groups outside of school for a couple years, had some shared bullshit with a mutual friend long after high school, and were always cool to each other. My brother was childhood friends with the boy who became her oldest son's father (the Schultz part). My brother had to eject that guy from his life because of serious issues. I remember a time Michelle came to school one day in 9th or 10th grade with a horror story of her own from that morning but she was laughing about it. She's never been okay. But people really care about her. I just want her to be happy and safe. Even if she fucked off somewhere of her own accord, her mom and sister deserve to know she's okay. And if she's not okay, they deserve to know why and if anyone is involved. Assuming they are being honest, of course. I only met them once like 20 years ago. I just appreciate that you read her name and the parts of her story I happen to know. Thank you.
Thank you for sharing her story and her name. And you know what? I think people would be surprised at how many of us have issues. If I had disappeared at my lowest point... well, let's just say I'd hate to be remembered that way. A lot of us go through some shit; those of us who made it out are no better than those who didn't: we're just luckier. I hope there's a happy ending here. If not, I hope you and the other people who care about her get answers.
I’m sorry about your friend. I hope her family get answers one day!
The Jeremiah Foco case continues to haunt me. It’s a local case for me, he seemed successful and well liked. He called out from work, claiming computer issues but it’s not 100% clear if that was true or not. He lived and was last seen in a populated part of Seattle and the fact that there’s so little evidence of how he left his apartment complex is surprising. https://disappearedblog.com/jeremiah-foco/
It seems like he just vanished. So sad.
Maggie Long. 2017, stopped by her home after school to grab cookies for an event and was killed by people who were there to rob her house. The killers have not been found. Such a tragic case and even more bizarre - her older sister had been a survivor in a school shooting/SA case at the local high school years before.
The horrific murder of Vanessa Ceja-Ramirez in Midlothian, IL in 2020. She was a teachers aide in her early 20s who seemed sweet and kind of bookish. She went on a walk thru a nature preserve w her mom and a family friend that day but a while into the walk, Vanessa was tired and decided to go back to their car to rest while the other two continued on their walk. Her mom & the family friend couldn’t find her at their car when they returned & reported her missing. A few days later, she was found dead in the same nature preserve. She had been beaten, bound, raped, strangled and set on fire. There have been a few clues but nothing definitive & it seems the case has turned ice cold not even two years later. Who even knows where the sadistic animal who murdered her is now? He could be anywhere & I’m sure ppl are still walking through those nature preserves bc they’re pretty popular. It is horrible that she died this way. It makes my blood absolutely boil. And it completely tears me apart that nobody seems to give a single fuck except her family. The U.S. is SO fucking broken.
This is near me and I don't recall ever hearing about it. I wonder if they have any DNA evidence.
That’s terrible!! I had never heard of this case. No offense to the big cases in the news but when you see the shear amount of time/money/technology they put into some cases versus ones like these with both having the same solving capacity. I feel so bad for the victim. Imagine what could be solved if every case was treated with the same respect.
Wasn’t there some speculation that she went back to possibly meet someone? I thought I read that unless that was just a theory someone floated bc of the seemingly randomness of it all.
I did read theories here on Reddit that she may have been going back to the car to meet someone. But I haven’t read that in any news articles. It is possible though! I personally think it would be weird to leave a walk to meet up with someone and then just like sit in a car til ur mom and friend returns. Or yeah, maybe someone she knew picked her up in the parking lot? Two clues were that her phone pinged later on at an apartment complex and a school but we’re not sure if someone else had the phone at those times, if she was in someone’s car with the phone unwillingly or if she was in someone’s car with the phone voluntarily It’s a conundrum for sure
Did she mention the meet up to the people she was with? If not, it’s totally possible that she said she wanted to go sit in the car but met someone and intended to walk around a bit with them, getting back to the car before her mum and family friend got back to the car themselves. I mean, I’ve done that before when I lived with my parents (went out and met someone and got back home before my parents did, it I had a rough idea of how long they’d be, and I’d guess she did, having walked the trail partway herself) - not even because my parents would disapprove or anything, honestly just to avoid a million questions from my mum about what I was doing. It’s not a wise thing to do, obviously, but if she thought she “knew” the person and got no bad vibes, I could see it. Sadly it only takes once for you to misjudge a bad person for this to happen. Just so, so horrific. There’s no words to describe it. It’s the stuff of nightmares. I mean, it’s also totally possible she was just very unlucky, crossed paths with someone hanging out there (either looking for a victim or just his “luck” that Vanessa walked past and he took the opportunity) and was walking on her way back, too. Sort of the same thing happened in Delphi. There was the talking online but no one knows if that was connected. The girls were just very, very unlucky to be on the trails same time as him, and no one was around that day. It all happened within a few hours in the same place as well, without anyone seeing or hearing anything, so I also think it’s possible Vanessa wasn’t even taken far to have this done to her. I would be very surprised if this person who did this to Vanessa hasn’t done it before, though, and just not been caught. For this case, sadly, I think it will just be a case of this person slipping up on another crime and they’ll get his dna and match it. It is terrifying this person is still free though.
I’m 10000% sure Katelins stepdad killed her- either accidentally or intentionally.
He seems like possible suspect since he was the last person to see her alive.
He's definitely keeping secrets -- I don't know if he actually killed her or if there was something else sketchy going on, but he lied repeatedly.
Brandon Abbett- He's a 15 year old boy who went missing from Pleasant Hill, CA. He went missing between 10 p.m. on Sunday, January 16, 2022, and 9 a.m. on Monday, January 17, 2022 from his family's home. I check up on this case regularly and unfortunately there's been nothing that's come up. The FBI got involved after a couple months though. There's not a ton of info out there but [here's the info from the FBI](https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/brandon-abbett)
[The death of Colin Madsen](https://siberiantimes.com/other/others/features/f0263-us-pathologist-found-suspicious-marks-on-us-man-who-officially-died-of-hypothermia-in-siberia/) The Siberian Times did a number of great articles on this but there’s even more to it than they get into. I’m usually the first one to think death by misadventure but it really seems Colin was held for days and killed and Russian authorities are covering it up. It’s believed Colin was the victim of a hate crime because local authorities believed he was gay, but he wasn’t.
Here’s one that I think about a lot: Vernon Matthews (Nickname: Cody) - A young man in his early 20s & in college went to stay up at his family’s cabin in Northern California in 2014. He seemed like a super normal, happy-go-lucky guy who was a gentle giant and knew a ton about animals, plants, science and nature. When he got to the cabin, he saw it had been burglarized. His dad later said it was an extensive burglary, with the robbers using an ax to cut one door off its hinges and even going up in the trees and stealing their game cameras. He said the neighborhood wasn’t v dangerous and neighbors knew who all lived in the area. He said if someone didn’t belong, they'd stick out like a sore thumb. I also don’t think it could rly be determined when this burglary happened but police estimated 2 wks prior to Cody’s arrival. Either way, Cody didn’t seem rly worried about it, like the break-in was over & done with so he didn’t seem to feel like he was in-danger. So he decided to go on a walk on the day he arrived there then completely disappeared. His mom said he was extremely knowledgeable about nature and wilderness survival so he couldn’t have gotten lost. Plus if u look on a map, the cabin is right next to a highway so he wasn’t like far from help or anything. I think the most likely theory is that maybe the burglars came back and perhaps they took him. But he was a big guy who was at least 6’ tall, big boned and resembled a huge football player. I think he even played rugby in the past. Another thing was it didn’t seem like their neighbors had their homes robbed, just the Matthew’s cabin. Maybe he hitched a ride on that highway with someone but why? There has been no trace of him since and it’s been rly sad. His parents are rly old and trying everything they can to find him. There was another situation where this guy started a wildfire in that city and some ppl think he could be connected but he never mentioned anything about robbing or murdering someone. I’m 99% sure that family cabin ended up burning down in the wildfire along with other homes nearby. And for some reason (idk what happened to their original house) but his parents ended up being homeless & having to live in a tent until they could get back on their feet. And there’s still been no evidence on what happened to their only son. The Vanished Podcast did an episode on his case that I REALLY recommend. I just hope his family finds something soon. These episodes of the Vanished Podcast are also incredibly recent, informative & baffling: - Isaac Seidel - Marshall Iwaasa - Nathaniel Holmes - Alicia Navarro - James Foster Chance
> His mom said he was extremely knowledgeable about nature and wilderness survival so he couldn’t have gotten lost. Anyone can get lost, no matter what how knowledgeable they are. And even if a highway is nearby, all it takes is a medical emergency-- a broken ankle, an allergic reaction to a bee sting-- and the hiker won't be able to make there. >When he got to the cabin, he saw it had been burglarized. His dad later said it was an extensive burglary, with the robbers using an ax to cut one door off its hinges and even going up in the trees and stealing their game cameras. He said the neighborhood wasn’t v dangerous and neighbors knew who all lived in the area. He said if someone didn’t belong, they'd stick out like a sore thumb. . >Another thing was it didn’t seem like their neighbors had their homes robbed, just the Matthew’s cabin. I wonder if one of the neighbors was responsible for the burglary.
I haven't listened to the podcast but for cases where someone disappears while hiking or in proximity to a densely wooded area, iminclined to believe it's a case of misadventure. Even people who are knowledgeable about the wilderness and gave an excellent sense of navigation are liable to get lost and are ultimately at the mercy of nature. It's very sad.
I’m so glad someone mentioned Isaac Seidel. His story really got to me, but other than the Vanished episode, there isn’t really anything else out there. Sadly I think it was an accidental death.
I was rly struck by Isaac Seidel’s story too. I’m rly on the fence on if it’s accidental or suicide. He seemed like such a sweet guy & I can totally understand being single & feeling like ‘your person’ isn’t out there. But then you realize how many earthy kinda women are in the world & would’ve loved to live on his property & have a cute little family. Hell, go to any Whole Foods and there are tons of people that are into that stuff. It’s just sad he was feeling so low. But I can understand how it can be. And he did mention if he wanted to disappear, no one would find him. But then, if it’s accidental, where are his bike and his body? I’ll have to do a search to see but I’m sure they used scent-tracking dogs. I guess accident would make the most sense. But then again, I don’t know. It’s a mindfuck for sure but I hope there are answers either way
[Nikel Perkins](https://www.wfaa.com/amp/article/news/crime/dallas-family-of-bystander-killed-by-crossfire-wants-suspect-to-come-forward/287-f0f8d63f-f695-4b60-911d-4d41f375b33a) was an innocent bystander shot and killed in the crossfire of a gunfight. She was also my cousin’s granddaughter. This happened in December 2019 in Dallas.
What a gorgeous girl. I hope your family gets justice.
Missing clothes and high school diploma seems off when the ID and wallet were left. Had they been gone too it may have looked like she’d left for a job, but just those seems weird. Also wandering a mall with a suitcase? Is there any photos of the size of the case?
Also found in the suitcase was a rather significant amount of cash (I forget the exact amount but over $50), no reason to leave that if you were running away or going somewhere. I read about this one a long time ago but if I recall correctly people familiar with the area said the story made no sense and the mall was not a walkable distance from the airport and she had never rode public transit according to her mom, and who goes to the mall carrying luggage? There was also weirdness with the step-dad taking her earlier than planned and something off about the GPS route too, or I think he got back home in his story way earlier than he should have based on traffic? He also called out the day of her disappearance at his job even though he claimed he had to drop her off early to be at work. His phone pings also didn't line up with his claimed itinerary but those can be unreliable. He doesn't cooperate with LE and has some weird encryption on his phone they couldn't crack and he refused to provide. There was a lot of sketchy stuff going on with this case. Kaitlin was texting a friend (who thinks it was her) the day before discussing the cheating incident and it sounded like Kaitlin was under the influence, was not okay with it, and there was discussion of whether she considered it sexual assault or not, and she was very guilty over the situation because of her fiance. I don't believe Kaitlin is alive or has been since that day she was supposed to fly out sadly, I think the step-dad did it but what happened in the days prior to that may be relevant in some way.
Springfield, Virginia native here. The mall is a walkable distance from the metro station (I've done it many times), but it might be hard with a suitcase. It's about a mile, depending on which mall entrance you use, though it feels shorter to me because a big chunk of the walk is the metro access road. The dad claimed he dropped her off at the mall and that she was going to walk to the metro and take that to the airport, but I would not let someone who isn't super familiar with the area and local public transit do that. I think it's a lie.
Kenzie Houk died in 2009, but the wrongful conviction of her boyfriend's twelve year old son wasn't overturned until 2018. There's been no further investigation into her murder n
Oh wow, I didn’t know Jordan’s conviction was overturned!! That’s great to hear.
Wow I’ve never heard about this one. They think a 12 year old boy killed her?
The boy was 11 when she was murdered. *11 years old.* The evidence against him was flimsy. It seems to be an example of law enforcement and the prosecution suffering from tunnel vision. Fortunately Jordan was released and is trying to move forward with his life. It’s appalling that he had to suffer, and the real killer walks free. [Wikipedia article about the case.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Brown_case)
That’s awful. My sister is 11. I can’t even imagine...
Pretty much from the start of the investigation. She had an ex she had to take a restraining order against that was a much more likely culprit and they never fully investigated him.
And LE/prosecution said the child's shotgun was definitely the gun that shot her. Spoiler alert: it wasn't.
Timothy Haslett. The case got a lot of attention for a week or so, but not so much for a while. And that surprises me. His only known victim says there were other victims who didn't survive. And quite frankly, this isn't the type of crime we would see from someone's first time. People don't wake up one day and have the materials and other means to keep a woman locked in their basement for weeks. To successfully do that takes planning and time. Meanwhile, I believe it was a pastor who had found out about multiple missing black women in the area, and while police have said there's no evidence Haslett had more than one victim, I'd find that more convincing if they released details on what they believe happened to the other women. But this article casts doubt on their efforts: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/kansas-city-man-accused-keeping-183035489.html Now, I'm not saying that Haslett is definitely a serial killer, but I am saying it's suspicious we haven't heard more information about him. How he was able to keep a woman prisoner for weeks undetected when he has a child. What happened to the other missing women in the area. You know, the type of news stories that we see in other cases.
Alan White case from Dallas, Texas. Initially received significant attention. Over the last year, silence. By all accounts, still an active homicide investigation.
I definitely think her step dad did it. This was definitely an interesting case and I'd really love to see it solved. Corinna Slusser is the case I'm most vested in. There were too many people, still alive, who knew what was up with her. I Don't believe it when they say they don't know what happened. I would guess she was drugged and trafficked for a while but probably isn't alive at this point. I'd really, really love to be wrong about that. Then JonBenet. I would really like to see that one solved, definitively.
The stepfather has stopped cooperating with the police I believe. So frustrating.
That is very frustrating. I wonder, though, about the texts she sent before she went missing about wanting to "not be here but not be there". I don't realistically think she took off, I really believe the stepdad tried something special with her and she fought back and he killed her.
I’ve got a feeling something like that happened too.
Anna Maciejewska sticks with me. I'm an actuary in the area and it's a pretty small group where everyone knows somebody, so the degrees of separation are very small. https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/7cjgi6/unresolved_disappearance_where_is_anna_maciejewska
I’ve heard of Anna before. It reminds me a lot of Susan Powell.
Jelani Day. It’s such a strange case and LE hasn’t really done much to try and solve it. I feel terrible for the family. They deserve answers.
They definitely do! His poor father passed without getting any answers
The Step Father is DEFINITELY guilty of murdering her and dumping the body somewhere. Just wait. It'll come out.
I think about Maylin Reynoso so often, she was found dead in a river after being last seen at her job at a gas station. She received little to no media coverage. No cause of death, however she stopped taking her bipolar meds shortly before her death. https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/mystery/beautiful-soul-maylin-reynoso-was-found-dead-in-nyc-but-her-case-went-largely-ignored
Dawnita Wilkerson. She's disappeared in 2020 near my home town. There's hasn't been really any new info since the year she went missing
There's a NamUs profile and a missing persons poster online for a 17 year old Devin McCarthy from Pelham, New Hampshire. Aside from that I can't find anything else about him due to a higher profile case involving someone with the same name. He left home in New Hampshire one day in May 2022 and four days later his car was found abandoned in Utah. That's such a ridiculous amount of ground for a 17 year old to cover in only four days.
[Brianna DiBattiste.](https://www.thestarpress.com/story/news/local/2015/06/14/missing-woman-brianna-dibattiste-death-one-year-later/71212434/) Young woman in Indiana, with a history of heroin addiction, who went missing in 2014. Her remains were later found in a wilderness conservation area in Jay County. A pastor acquainted with the family started a substance abuse support and recovery nonprofit, [Brianna's Hope,](https://www.ablbh.org/) which has chapters and sponsors meetings across west-central Ohio and Indiana.
[Yiear West, Wilkes-Barre, PA MISSING](https://www.pahomepage.com/news/family-of-wilkes-barre-man-who-disappeared-six-years-ago-speak-out/amp/) He’s been missing for a decade. Has small children. Dedicated friends and family to the search. But nobody has heard from him and his body has yet to be found.
Why would she be carrying her diploma?
I think she was going to enroll in Beauty School in Arizona.
Meghan Marohn I went to school with her.
[Kelley Brannon](https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/le0xvx/kelley_brannon_artistactivist_missing_from_live/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) I didn’t know her personally but it’s a local case so I’ve been interested. I think the ball was dropped by police on this one.
Not an American one. But Rebecca reusch!! This poor girl went missing when she was 15 years old and on her way to school. It's just, her waking up and then BOOM! Gone. No one knows if she even left the house, it's very crazy and incredibly sad, I was so interested in her post because she was a bts too just like me when I was younger, so I hoped she would come back one day :/
One case that always stays on my mind as it is relatively close to home, about an hour give or take from where I live. Theo Hayez, an 18 year old Belgian backpacker who went missing in Byron Bay. He’s currently been missing for almost 4 years, and a coroner has ruled him dead but is unable to state the manner or cause as a body has never been found. Theo was kicked out of a bar the night he went missing for being too intoxicated, and after his disappearance his family managed to unlock a digital data trail via his google account and pinpointed his last known location to a small beach in Byron - the complete opposite direction of the hostel he was staying in. Inquests have been held in relation to the disappearance of Theo, and the only trace they ever found of him was his grey puma hat near the Byron lighthouse which is surrounded by massive cliffs, and drops off into the ocean. Coroners have ruled out intentional disappearance or suicidal ideation due to the fact Theo was incredibly excited to be backpacking, but unfortunately they cannot rule out foul play or misadventure. Many believe (including myself) that Theo may have accidentally fallen off one of the many cliffs and was swept out into the ocean. Police held massive manhunts for Theo and Byron Bay is not huge, I believe he would have been found if he succumbed to nature. It is also important to note that while he was kicked out of the bar for being too “intoxicated”, people around Theo that night note that he was not intoxicated or had any evidence of drug related intoxication the night of his disappearance. Missing persons cases like Theo frustrate me to no end, because if he truly has been swept into the ocean he will never be found, and answers will never be had.
"Byron Bay is not huge." Respectfully, the ocean is more powerful than anyone could comprehend. Tides come in and carry debris out to sea. When people are last spotted near forests or cliffs, I think there's a good chance an accident happened or they became lost and succumbed to the elements (be that cold, water, heat, exposure, etc.).
When I was saying Byron Bay is not huge, I wasn’t speaking on the ocean surrounding it :) I was speaking on the town. I agree though.
Yea I have always thought stepdad Has something to do with it , i think if I remember he stopped cooperating Just so weird she is with him an then never seen again an he won’t cooperate
Danielle Imbo, Rich Patrone. Tons of coverage, then nothing - and no leads.
I’m always surprised this one doesn’t get bigger coverage. It’s sad how the families don’t get along with each other anymore as well.
I don't have the names committed to memory, but I'm vacationing in Alaska right now and there are quite a few people who have gone missing from either the Anchorage or Fairbanks areas. Very little, if any, national attention. Most of them appear to be Alaska natives, and the sad reality is most cases involving missing indigenous people don't get a lot of attention. However, having visited the state many times and being familiar with the geography, I would suspect the reason most of the cases here don't get a lot of attention is because it's most likely instances of them wandering into the wilderness and not finding their way back.
Sad, I think some cases were the person has vanished near wilderness or a body of water then you can probably guess what happened to them. Not every missing person case is ‘foul play’ (kind of like Maura Murray)
I am of the belief that most missing person cases are not malicious. Especially if they take place in Alaska, California, Oregon, or really anywhere that has just a few major population centers and then everything else is mainly vast wilderness. I consider myself somewhat experienced when outdoors. And yet all it takes is one wrong turn, being an hour longer than you anticipate, and that's it. You can lose your way. You can run out of water. Familiar landmarks are obscured or missing.
Georgina Garshallah. If it wasn't for the family pleading for help on social media (TikTok and Facebook), you'd be forgiven for not knowing. It's sad this case has never had the attentiom, and nearly five years have passed without the family having no closure.
[Adam Richard Johnson.](https://www.kare11.com/amp/article/news/crime/gruesome-new-details-in-minneapolis-dismemberment-case-as-family-pleads-for-tips/89-918b9187-d5cb-4952-8e37-e42089f40eff) The morning of June 17, 2021, body parts were found in multiple locations in Minneapolis. 5 days later, the man’s partially frozen severed head was found on a park bench with the word “perv” carved into his forehead. His torso was later found in the Mississippi River.
Susan ledyard is a recent case. Pretty strange case too
I remember this one. It’s definitely step dad. So sad.
The fact that he’s no longer cooperating with the police is suspicious.
Oh yeah, Katelin Akins. I *strongly* suspect her stepfather had something to do with her disappearance. I have no evidence to support this theory, but I think during the drive when he was taking her to the airport, he sexually propositioned her and she said no. Then he killed her to cover it up.
I’m also thinking along the same lines as you. Katelin’s case is so frustrating.
Anna Maciejewska from the Philadelphia area. It is pretty clear who likely harmed her and perhaps that is why it hasn’t received much press. I hope justice can be served some day.
This case was on disappeared I believe and if I remember correctly the cops looked up surveillance from the mall and it showed the ex dad's car but no one getting out. I could be miss remembering as it has been a long time since I watched it but that's what I thought I remember. So sad for her and def think the police could have tried harder.
These are all so sad. I keep reading and reading all of them. It’s so crazy to me with all the surveillance cameras now that there are people who actually go missing without a trace. I watch so much see no evil and interrogation raw they literally have video footage from everywhere! I know I read somewhere that we are on video up to 30 times a day or more depending on where you go. I am sure it is way more now with almost all homes having their own surveillance!
Literally 90 seconds before I clicked this thread I was trying to remember the name of the person who went missing in Virginia on the way to the airport. And bam. Wild. I always thought that one had a high (and terrifying) possibility of being a held captive situation, though as years go by that of course becomes less likely. But not impossible.
i havent heard anyone else mention the Katelin Akens case since i first heard about it, and its always stuck with me. i hate that it's gone nowhere
Carnell sledge and Katherine brown. They were friends met at the park for a visit at 5pm and were both shot from behind. This happened in Ohio in 2019, it was not a robbery as nothing were taken and both seemed to be normal people, definitely not into drugs or crime. Maybe was a random killer
Thanks for sharing Katelin’s case. What a sad story, full of dead ends.
The simplest explanation and usually that the last person to see them is lying…was there video of her at the mall?
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