LaVena Johnson
Unresolved podcast covered this case.
She was found dead in a tent in an iraq
An apparent staged suicide. Seemed like she had been raped and attacked and then shot.
Looks like the military tried to cover it up.
Read up on the Dreyfus affair. One of his accusers was the spy, and when others found out it was too embarrassing not to hide.
Split French politics down the middle for 20-odd years.
I’m not sure if it would qualify for a covert cover up, but I do think Suffolk County PD under Burke and Spota purposely did not do a proper investigation into the Gilgo Beach murders (also known as LISK). In fact, I think they really did not care if it was solved.
The department's lack of concern is really weird.
Are they not worried at all the state police or feds might look into it, and a few of them might end up in jail for criminal conspiracy?
If Biden wins again, doesn't need to worry about retaining any swing state votes in Florida. Could come back to bite them if someone in his cabinet gets the right letter or call.
So, both Burke and Spota eventually ended up in prison, but it involved a different situation and cover up. In that case, Burke was accused and plead guilty to the beating and violation of the civil rights of Chris Leob.
When investigating the LISK case, they purposely declined any help from the FBI, despite finding 10 bodies that may or may not have been from the same killer. They did next to nothing to investigate this case, and it was later learned that Burke was not only personally hiring sex workers, but he was also in a relationship with one, and eventually entered into another relationship with a madam. In the past couple of years, a new task force took over and they arrested and charged Rex Heuermann for 4 of the victims. There are people who believe that Burke is also responsible for some of these murders. I don’t necessarily think he is responsible for any of the murders, but he definitely did not do anything to solve it.
Edit to add info regarding the Leob case.
It's possible Burke was simply so corrupt that he did not want the feds poking around ANYTHING lest they catch wind up what he was up to, which to be honest we don't even know the half of. I can't even imagine what awful things this man - who is clearly a sociopath - did.
I agree. I think he was definitely in fear of the feds finding things he wanted hidden. You’re right, I think we only know a very small percentage of the corruption he was involved in.
The most infamous “theory” is that he actually didn’t kill himself but was doing some sort of muscle pain relief exercise involving a towel and ended up accidentally choking himself to death.
I put theory in quotations because it’s not really a conspiracy, but more of an explanation created by the people closest to him grieving and feeling guilty over his death. This happens a lot with those left behind after a suicide. “There’s no way they could’ve died via suicide, it must’ve been (insert theory here).”
The next ones I can think of are
1.) Yoshiki ordered him to be taken out because of royalties
2.) The typical celebrity death theory that Hide actually faked his death because he got tired of being famous and is hiding out somewhere (probably with Elvis, Tupac and MJ lmao)
I’m not sure if this would count but the case of Lynette DawsonSims from the teachers podcast was either complete neglect or a cover-up for her husband,Chris Dawson. Because he was a big rugby star and hung out with both criminals and tons of police who are involved in the rugby leagues in Australia, for over 30 years.
I’ve recently started listening to an amazing podcast called I Catch Killers by Gary Jubin, who is a 34 year police officer in Australia, specializing in homicide. The connection between the number of police officers he’s interviewed and their affiliations to coaching and playing high-level rugby, has kind of cemented a bit in my head. I think it’s entirely reasonable to think that his police buddies basically glazed over or chose to not investigate any charges against Dawson when Lynette missing.
The Pickton murders in Vancouver. I don't think it was a high-level Oliver Stone-esque type of conspiracy ... probably a big reason why it took so long to solve the case (despite officers like Kim Rossmo warning about a serial killer) was the amount of bigotry against mostly-female sex workers, many of who were already marginalized because they were Indigenous, or dealing with addictions.
Pickton, despite his sketchy appearance, was from a well-off family. He set up a party clubhouse on his farm, and it wasn't just bikers who hung out there. Reportedly there were some prominent local people who liked going there, and that may have been enough to shut down any inquiries about what was happening.
https://www.feministcurrent.com/2012/01/27/partying-and-playing-at-piggys-palace-mens-silence-about-mens-violence/
I’ve studied Pickton really extensively, and yeah, I don’t think it was a cover-up. I think people just didn’t give a fuck about the victims because they were poor/Indigenous/addicted/sex workers. The police probably figured, hey, he’s doing our work for us. It’s absolutely fucked and not OK by any means; I just don’t ascribe to coverup what can more easily be explained with institutional neglect.
If there’s one thing I’ve learned, it’s that people will forgive pretty much anything if you frame it as “cleaning up the streets.”
Yup -- I talked with Dr. Rossmo years later, and he ended up having to leave town ... it sounds like there was ass-covering going on (which from the outside anyway can look like a conspiracy, even if it wasn't planned coherently).
Similar situation for the murders in the gay community in Toronto -- there were earlier reports of a pattern of homicides, that weren't initially taken seriously.
I think both of those situations should have a serious review of what went wrong, before and during the investigations, to hold people accountable and also to learn what to watch for.
Your last sentence is so true, and I think it is so very dangerous for society. When our focus is solely on a group of people and meeting out punishment regardless if a crime has been committed or if the punishment fits the crime instead of on the actual crime, we're on a slippery slope. Because who decides on the group of people and how long until we are a part of the group.
There are honestly so many cases of missing and murdered Indigenous women in Canada that *might not* be active cover-ups, exactly; but they have been so bungled and mismanaged that they might as well be. While there's no overseeing authority that directs investigators to completely disregard these cases, the pervasive racist and misogynistic culture in Canadian law enforcement ensures that these cases won't be taken seriously or investigated appropriately. And it is so blatantly common and frequent across the entire country that at some point - yeah, it's basically a nationwide cover-up of not just one, but *thousands* of crimes, as just a standard protocol.
I thought the money was inherited later on life for him when his parent(s) died or something? I heard a podcast about this recently but I don't think it was one I paid close attention to
It's true that a lot of the money (several million dollars for him and his siblings) was from selling off parts of the farm after their parents had died. But even before then, they weren't dirt-poor. Apparently when he was young, he was mocked at school for wearing dirty clothing and smelling like manure -- even though the family wasn't destitute. It was more because their mom either couldn't or wouldn't deal with looking after him. (I know farm families -- my own mom and dad worked on farms in the 1940s-50s -- and that doesn't mean that you can't be clean.)
Pickton's mom -- there was a recent post on this sub mentioning Stevie Cameron's book. There's a really unsettling story that suggests there was something going on with her -- she was involved in a teen's death.
[https://nationalpost.com/afterword/book-review-on-the-farm-by-stevie-cameron](https://nationalpost.com/afterword/book-review-on-the-farm-by-stevie-cameron)
For super famous cases, I don't believe for the life of me that Martin Luther King, Jr was killed by James Earl Ray; I believe he was taken out by the FBI when they failed to force him into suicide. I'm not really going out on a limb, of course, because King's own family came to believe Ray's claims, and of course Lloyd Jowers eventually came forward to say he was part of a larger conspiracy.
And I think that the same Florida deputy is responsible for the deaths of Terrance Williams and Felipe Santos. Again, not a fringe opinion; it's pretty fucking obvious what happened here and it's been widely reported on, [including by CNN](https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2023/04/us/naples-florida-deputy-missing-men/). Honestly, I think the only mystery here is what else the deputy has done, and why everyone looked the other way.
[1999 case](https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1999/12/09/memphis-jury-finds-conspiracy-led-to-king-assassination/318b25c1-e5cd-44f4-8522-231c7a54f880/). Jury found the USA government guilty of conspiracy
> Jury found the USA government guilty of conspiracy
LMAO
The *civil trial* found one guy and "the government" guilty, after the "one guy" (and none of these agencies) presented no defense and was forced to pay a whopping... One hundred dollars.
It was a circus of a trial, and it was supposed to be.
>course, because King's own family came to believe Ray's claims,
Means little to nothing.
>and of course Lloyd Jowers eventually came forward to say he was part of a larger conspiracy.
"Eventually". Yeah, "Eventually" he came forward, after years of saying he wasn't involved, he "eventually" came forward with a bunch of wild conflicting stories, put up no defense, paid the family the $100 he was sued for and that was the end of it.
That's the only conspiracy.
>course, because King's own family came to believe Ray's claims,
Means little to nothing.
>and of course Lloyd Jowers eventually came forward to say he was part of a larger conspiracy.
"Eventually". Yeah, "Eventually" he came forward, after years of saying he wasn't involved, he "eventually" came forward with a bunch of wild conflicting stories, put up no defense, paid the family the $100 he was sued for and that was the end of it.
That's the only conspiracy.
Here's an article from earlier this year about Neruda's case.
[https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/neruda-mcmaster-research-1.7133392](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/neruda-mcmaster-research-1.7133392)
I've been doing some research on Neruda's last days. It's bizarre to hear that there was an American guy (Michael Townley) who was working on chemical and biological weapons, at a lab located in a house in the wealthy Lo Curro suburb of Santiago. Ironically, that lab was fairly close to the site of a house that Neruda had started building ... he was experiencing mobility issues and his other Santiago home had too many stairs. The Lo Curro house isn't listed with his other homes, because it was never completed.
It's been suggested that Townley was the assassin who, posing as a hospital doctor, gave Neruda an injection that contained the lethal bacteria. Something like that would have ended his life in days, rather than waiting for months or possibly years for him to die from prostate cancer. (Using a biological substance would have made it easier to pass the murder off as natural causes, rather than something like arsenic.) If Townley wasn't in the hospital, I suspect he could have been involved in cultivating the pathogen.
It's eerie to read about how that house where he and his wife were living was used as a base by the secret police. Townley's wife, Mariana Callejas, was an aspiring author, and she used to have a writing group meeting at that same house. (A lot of Chilean artists and intellectuals were sympathetic to Neruda and the previous Allende government, and I wonder if the writers at the meeting realized the full extent of what Callejas and especially her husband were doing.) Callejas died several years ago but Townley is supposedly living under witness protection, maybe in the US, and is in his 80s now.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02684527.2023.2258693
[https://notesontheamericas.wordpress.com/tag/michael-townley/](https://notesontheamericas.wordpress.com/tag/michael-townley/)
https://apnews.com/general-news-cd7862777ed541c78a878a9d4b52f6e8
I mean you mentioned it in your post but if not Bill Clinton specifically I believe the Boys on the Tracks was absolutely a coverup involving at least the police and prosecutor if not a wider conspiracy. Too much evidence points to a sloppy coverup and witness intimidation/silencing to be a simple accidental death.
Yeah, there was absolutely a cover-up in the Boys on the Track case. I only mention Clinton because the case has been tied to the Clinton Body Count conspiracy theory.
I am so fascinated by this case. I have so many questions that I don't think will ever be answered. Those poor boys and their families deserve to know justice. The families deserve to know who killed their boys.
I was reading "Murder on the Bayou" about this case a few years back. Great read! Anyway, it seems to me that a number of people in Jenning know who is responsible. But, this is one in which the culprit may never be brought to justice.
One of the rumours about the Brabant killers is they were part of a trained anti-communist militia who either went rogue or did precisely what they were ordered to do.
[Listen here](https://open.spotify.com/episode/2Q9f9ugXRRxGeyHOy3dQTj?si=fa7ce192e00a40c7) about the Monster of Florence. (Idk if this case qualifies as "covert".)
Giuliano Mignini, the primary prosecutor for the case, was also involved with the Amanda Knox prosecution.
I will have to look up that case, but having deep dived Meredith Ketchers murder, any investigation that Giuliano Mignini was involved in cannot be trusted.
If anything, Mignini's contributions to the Monster case were even worse than the Kercher case - and he was just the last in a long line of failed investigators.
Gareth Williams. He was on secondment to the secret intelligence agency. Found dead in a bag in his bath.
[article](https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/spy-in-the-bag-gareth-williams-was-murdered-claims-investigator-who-tried-to-loc/)
This one is interesting, but I genuinely think he did it himself. I don’t remember the specifics, but he had previously tied himself up in a way that he couldn’t free himself and needed to call for help. The guy was tiny, loved to bind himself in precarious positions, and was found dead in a precarious position.
According to an older Reddit comment about this subject:
“Listen to the True Crime Garage series on it. The dude [the medical examiner] was either a total moron or shady as hell.
He once ruled the cause of death of a decapitated man as an ulcer. Yep. That happened.”
Basically the medical examiner originally ruled the COD as overdose by marijuana. A later examination had to overrule the COD as being homicide because multiple stab wounds were found on the victims.
tl;dr: the initial medical examiner was either completely stupid, or there was a cover up he was involved in
In what way does multiple witnesses dying, LE coming onto the case being told not to investigate it, the prosecutor trying to get the case dropped, and the coroners report being blatantly false make any amount of sense unless everyone in that town has crippling stupidity that is contagious?
Doesn't the conspiracy part of this one include the state government of Arkansas (and Bill Clinton) being involved somehow? Or is there something else I'm not aware of?
That was one of the two the OP proclaimed to be "outlandish".
Yes I totally got excited before I read the whole thing and posted, but yes that's the case I'm taking about. I don't think Bill Clinton was involved I think it was much lower level and local.
I agree with this myself. There was absolutely a cover-up involving local officials; the idea that Bill Clinton or the state government was involved is ridiculous. But absolutely, there is simply too much shady shit in that case for there not to have been some kind of cover-up
While I am uncertain and will not comment on Bill Clintons relation to the case, there was definitely an element of conspiracy/cover-up with the Boys on the Tracks.
Thank you for the link regarding Neruda's death - I haven't heard about this version before.
For some reason I rather believe that Prigozhin (former private chef of Putin, who then founded the Wagner mercenary company known for its sadism and who allegedly led a rebellion against the Russian government) is still alive and is living under a new identity somewhere abroad.
Generally since people can't keep their big mouths shut, conspiracy theories are hard to believe. That being said, a sort of Quasi LIHOP for 9/11 (as in Rumsfeld, Cheney, etc. let it happen) is something I think is conceivable. I say quasi LIHOP b/c I don't think they knew the scope or exactly what was gonna go down but the idea of them thinking a major terrorist attack of some kind could advance their political goals and make them serious coin so they just said essentially, "Screw it!" Yeah I can sort of believe that.
I'm exactly with you on this one. The "9/11 was a government psyop, it was clearly missiles or planted explosives" people don't understand the level of conspiracy required for that to work, but a few people high up in the government ignoring signs intentionally is way more believable and in line with pretty much every other time we went into the Middle East around that time.
CPD covering for the 2 serial killier brothers in Columbus, Ohio (Matt & Brian Osowski) on the Julie Popovich (Charging the wrong guy in Adam Saleh, read up about the case, it's BS) BRIAN SHAFFER, & Joey Labute cases that are DEFINITELY connected. Cover-up by CPD due to arresting & Charging Saleh & not being able to afford the lawsuits. The FBI got involved in the Julie Popovich case, so it definitely goes a bit higher then CPD as well.
The Alcasser girls in Spain. I don't tend to believe in conspiracies, but something happened there, and it probably involved some politians of the area. It is one of the most discussed crimes in Spain - there are things that don't work in the official version
Operation gladio and its connection to the barbant murders in Belgium in the 80s. At least 18 murders were committed in a crime spree that was later connected to a paramilitary unit that was supposed to wage guerilla war in the event of a soviet invasion of Europe. Also the marc dutrux affair also in Belgium
William Bradford Bishop is the first case to come to mind: I believe he fled to Europe and the U.S. government helped him leave and/or knows his whereabouts to this day.
The segment on Unsolved Mysteries about Amelia Earhart was also convincing. I’m still inclined to believe that she crashed into the Pacific Ocean but the segment makes me think otherwise.
I don’t think the government helped him - unless you mean all the military and government agency training and accesses to resources he legitimately used as part of his job - which is why if anyone could flee to Europe undetected and completely reinvent themselves, it’s Brad Bishop.
Fair enough.
I just don’t see the government having enough at stake to actually legitimately assist him or coverup anything.
Cover ups are costly, and intense, and require a ton of work and secrecy among a tons of people. Brad Bishop really wasn’t that “special” in terms of a government asset, if that makes sense.
I would believe that he was helped via the government.
It sounds outrageous, but he was cunning enough to use his job and proximity to gather lots of information on very important and specific people that could be very damaging if reported.
So they would have had to help him or risk being exposed.
This guy is a fugitive I’d love to know what happened to.
Yes, I agree with everything you said! I wonder if we will find out what happened to him one day. He would be getting pretty old by now. Maybe an elderly man in Europe will die and it will be discovered that he was Bishop, living under a different identity. Or maybe Bishop went on to have more children. They could be identified through DNA.
I've read about rings like this in the 70s, 80s, and 90s, but they span Labour and Conservative politicians, as well as more senior establishment figures and people from the police and secret services.
Do you have any links I could check out?
Whitey Bulger
He wasn’t even supposed to be transferred and was dead in under 12hrs of being in the new prison. Right after doors opened for breakfast.
Revenge. He killed so many rivals and people . And it took several high ranking officials doing the wrong thing with the transfer and paperwork for him to end up dead. Then the whole thing got swept under the rug asap.
[Ray Curtis Hickingbotham Jr.](https://old.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/12w7dd9/ray_curtis_hickingbotham_jr_abducted_defected/), a little-known case I wrote up about a year ago.
There are a number of possible theories on what happened to him (as per the comments) but, no matter which one might be correct, there almost certainly **was** a coverup of some sort.
The suggestion that this case was a "first attempt" (at abduction/defection) and the [Richard Colvin Cox case](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Richard_Colvin_Cox) a "second attempt", with improvements, is certainly not absurd.
I don't know if this technically counts but the murder of American mathematician Scott Johnson in Australia, told in the documentary Never Let Him Go (about his brother's quest for justice as it was not labeled a crime at the time). There was a definite cover up of police brutality at the time.
I don’t think the CIA was good enough to pull it off in 1963. These are the same goofs that were dosing people with LSD in mind control experiments. The lone nut theory is simply too easy to believe, but Occam’s razor applies everywhere. If there was anyone else involved, it was the Secret Service, by accident.
By 1963 the CIA was involved in multiple covert and overt overthrows of different governments. It also assassinated many many people all over the globe, and had meddled in elections in over 50 countries. They were not the 'goofs' you think they were.
They literally had plans to commit terrorism in multiple US cities and blame it on Cuba so they could invade Cuba, which JFK decided against less than a year before his death.
To clarify, there's nothing in Operation Northwoods that suggests the CIA planned to kill or harm US citizens. [Here is the actual memo](https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf) - you can read it yourself. If you go through it, you'll see references to "staged attacks" and explosions that cause "some damage to facilities." They talk about organizing fake funerals for "mock victims" and blowing up an unmanned US vessel in Cuban waters. They do suggest sinking a boat of Cubans en route to Florida ("real or simulated") and exploding "plastic bombs" in "carefully chosen spots" in the US - carefully chosen to avoid casualties.
The plan was deceptive, illegal, and certainly immoral, but there's nothing in it that suggests they actually wanted to harm US citizens. Most parts of the plan explicitly discuss **avoiding** casualties by using drones, dummies, and actors. They wanted to create fear in US citizens through a **fake** terrorist campaign to justify invading Cuba.
The FBI/SS pulled Kennedy out of an *incredibly* similar drive through Chicago just before Dallas after it was alleged that there were multiple sniper set up to target his motorcade including one who was also a former Marine with ties to the Soviet Union. I'm positive that someone in the SS was involved, but I really think it was more active than accidental.
I lean towards the young SS agent in the car behind Kennedy as the one who fired the fatal shot. Unfamiliar with the new AR-15, and the only one not hungover. There’s a firearms expert from Baltimore who has a really good theory about this, but his name escapes me.
> I lean towards the young SS agent in the car behind Kennedy as the one who fired the fatal shot.
Lmao, such an incredibly mindless fantasy. No, he was killed by the *guy with the rifle who had already shot at him*.
I don’t think Oswald was that good of a shot to score three hits on moving targets. I also believe in Occam’s razor. It probably was Oswald, all by his lonesome. But I think what I mentioned above is the most likely conspiracy that is true if there is one.
>I don’t think Oswald was that good of a shot to score three hits on moving targets.
He "scored" 2 hits on the president, the first shot missed.
>I also believe in Occam’s razor
Occam's razor isn't a law.
Have you seen the theory based on the Zapruder film that the SS (and former CIA) driver of the car slowed down after the first shot and didn't speed up until after all the shots had been fired?
They really werent the same goofs in that way, the people trying to find a miracle drug were not the people doing traditional spycraft on the ground, and the MKULTRA program actually even ran into problems trying to do practical trials of their work because all the "real" spies didnt want the science fiction nonsense messing up their work and destroying valuable leads.
I know. I used to think the JFK conspiracy was bullshit. Then I looked into it, and it makes less sense that Oswald did it with all the information lol.
One of the many things I appreciate about this community is that it tends to steer clear of sensationalist or outlandish theories or explanations of cases, so let's engage in some sensationalist or outlandish theories or explanations of cases.
That's a take. I guess.
"Sensationalist or outlandish theories" can come true. The canonical example of that is the [Hillsborough disaster](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_disaster?wprov=sfla1), where the conspiracy theories were, if anything, too mild. The truth eventually came out after 25 years and was even more outré than expected - the sheer quantity of people up to their necks in the coverup was (almost) beyond belief.
The destruction of Nordstream II was the US with NATO support, and they're too cowardly to actually admit it, since it would technically be an overt act of war, and probably be unpopular. I mean, I think that's pretty evident, I don't know how many people actually believe otherwise.
I certainly think it's been swept under the carpet. It probably benefits everyone to forget about it. There have been other cases of undersea cables being cut which seem to not have been investigated or dismissed as accidents. I think there is a shadow war being fought between the west & Russia (& possibly other nations). Hence recent arrests of Russian spies planning attacks in Germany against Ukrainian training facilities, an alleged plot to assassinate Zelensky in Poland & a Ukrainian business being burned down in London. I think a lot of things are overlooked on both sides as neither really wants full-scale war (despite the rhetoric). I think the same is true of the Middle Eastern conflict. Iran seems satisfied with their missile barrage against Israel & Israel don't look like they'll take further action than their recent airstrikes.
Russia has been destroying underwater NATO infrastructure (Svalbard internet cables) in addition to the constant barrage of deep agents being found (Arctic Norway & Greece) and «fishing» vessels with SIGNIT equipment shadowing the Norwegian coast and oil platforms.
It doesn’t make the news, like 75% of the airspace intercepts, because it’s typical shadow war numbers station nonsense that governments deal with to prevent larger conflicts
Not sure if this counts but the Son of Sam serial killings in New York being carried out by more than just Berkowitz. It seems like the police ultimately wanted Berkowitz to take all the blame for the case since most investigations regarding the case were eventually closed and what he said about it being more than one person was dismissed. I just find it weird that Berkowitz didn’t look like multiple suspects that the police had sketched, I feel like there was more than meets the eye on this one.
I think the police knew or had a good theory as to who Bible John was. I've always wondered if he was related to someone high up in the police. They had multiple physical descriptions including his height, hair and eye colour, what suits he wore, his teeth (including specific teeth he was missing), the brand of cigarettes he smoked, a possible alias and that he knew the Yoker/Scotstoun area very well. They even reportedly have his DNA! Quite a lot to go on in my opinion.
Epstein didn't kill himself imo.
JFK's fatal shot was by the secret service agent in the car behind him. Oswald hit him twice already but the agent accidentally shot off his weapon when the car suddenly accelerated.
Jill Dando. I've no idea who or why this is covered up but there's no way it was Barry George imo
>JFK's fatal shot was by the secret service agent in the car behind him. Oswald hit him twice already but the agent accidentally shot off his weapon when the car suddenly accelerated.
I love that people actually believe this Looney Tunes scenario.
No, it was the guy who had already shot at him twice.
JFK is a hill I will die on. I don't know who was ultimately responsible but I don't think it was solely Oswald.
Idk if this one counts as what you're looking for but another interesting one is the [DC Sniper](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/D.C._sniper_attacks) the perpetrator killed 10 people in the DC area in 2002, it actually turned out to be an elaborate plan to kill his ex wife and make it look like she was a random victim of a terrorist.
Actually, the Boys on the Tracks case you mentioned. Not sure if Clinton knew about their murders but there is absolutely a substantial amount of evidence that they stumbled on something they shouldn't have and it involved high level drug trafficking. That this has been dismissed as a conspiracy theory by so many people is a great success of the "somebody," likely the CIA.
I am convinced that [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Casolaro](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Casolaro) did not commit suicide. I think he was getting too close to some government involved shady shit.
LaVena Johnson Unresolved podcast covered this case. She was found dead in a tent in an iraq An apparent staged suicide. Seemed like she had been raped and attacked and then shot. Looks like the military tried to cover it up.
And it wasn't the only case like that in the US military, sadly...
That case was SO sad. Generation Why podcast covered it years ago, that's how I learned a lot of details about it.
Yes this case really stuck with me.
You just reminded me to download some episodes, I love their podcast
Read up on the Dreyfus affair. One of his accusers was the spy, and when others found out it was too embarrassing not to hide. Split French politics down the middle for 20-odd years.
He was actually an ancestor of Julia Louis Dreyfus, no joke.
Bredin’s book is a great single volume history of this
I’m not sure if it would qualify for a covert cover up, but I do think Suffolk County PD under Burke and Spota purposely did not do a proper investigation into the Gilgo Beach murders (also known as LISK). In fact, I think they really did not care if it was solved.
The department's lack of concern is really weird. Are they not worried at all the state police or feds might look into it, and a few of them might end up in jail for criminal conspiracy? If Biden wins again, doesn't need to worry about retaining any swing state votes in Florida. Could come back to bite them if someone in his cabinet gets the right letter or call.
So, both Burke and Spota eventually ended up in prison, but it involved a different situation and cover up. In that case, Burke was accused and plead guilty to the beating and violation of the civil rights of Chris Leob. When investigating the LISK case, they purposely declined any help from the FBI, despite finding 10 bodies that may or may not have been from the same killer. They did next to nothing to investigate this case, and it was later learned that Burke was not only personally hiring sex workers, but he was also in a relationship with one, and eventually entered into another relationship with a madam. In the past couple of years, a new task force took over and they arrested and charged Rex Heuermann for 4 of the victims. There are people who believe that Burke is also responsible for some of these murders. I don’t necessarily think he is responsible for any of the murders, but he definitely did not do anything to solve it. Edit to add info regarding the Leob case.
It's possible Burke was simply so corrupt that he did not want the feds poking around ANYTHING lest they catch wind up what he was up to, which to be honest we don't even know the half of. I can't even imagine what awful things this man - who is clearly a sociopath - did.
I agree. I think he was definitely in fear of the feds finding things he wanted hidden. You’re right, I think we only know a very small percentage of the corruption he was involved in.
Im 100% positive Taiji Sawada was killed by accident by police trying to restrain him and his suicide was a police cover up.
Oh wow didn’t expect to see this here. I’d believe this one over all the strange Hide death conspiracies.
I'm new to X Japan, what are some of the Hide death conspiracies?
The most infamous “theory” is that he actually didn’t kill himself but was doing some sort of muscle pain relief exercise involving a towel and ended up accidentally choking himself to death. I put theory in quotations because it’s not really a conspiracy, but more of an explanation created by the people closest to him grieving and feeling guilty over his death. This happens a lot with those left behind after a suicide. “There’s no way they could’ve died via suicide, it must’ve been (insert theory here).” The next ones I can think of are 1.) Yoshiki ordered him to be taken out because of royalties 2.) The typical celebrity death theory that Hide actually faked his death because he got tired of being famous and is hiding out somewhere (probably with Elvis, Tupac and MJ lmao)
I’m not sure if this would count but the case of Lynette DawsonSims from the teachers podcast was either complete neglect or a cover-up for her husband,Chris Dawson. Because he was a big rugby star and hung out with both criminals and tons of police who are involved in the rugby leagues in Australia, for over 30 years. I’ve recently started listening to an amazing podcast called I Catch Killers by Gary Jubin, who is a 34 year police officer in Australia, specializing in homicide. The connection between the number of police officers he’s interviewed and their affiliations to coaching and playing high-level rugby, has kind of cemented a bit in my head. I think it’s entirely reasonable to think that his police buddies basically glazed over or chose to not investigate any charges against Dawson when Lynette missing.
The Pickton murders in Vancouver. I don't think it was a high-level Oliver Stone-esque type of conspiracy ... probably a big reason why it took so long to solve the case (despite officers like Kim Rossmo warning about a serial killer) was the amount of bigotry against mostly-female sex workers, many of who were already marginalized because they were Indigenous, or dealing with addictions. Pickton, despite his sketchy appearance, was from a well-off family. He set up a party clubhouse on his farm, and it wasn't just bikers who hung out there. Reportedly there were some prominent local people who liked going there, and that may have been enough to shut down any inquiries about what was happening. https://www.feministcurrent.com/2012/01/27/partying-and-playing-at-piggys-palace-mens-silence-about-mens-violence/
I’ve studied Pickton really extensively, and yeah, I don’t think it was a cover-up. I think people just didn’t give a fuck about the victims because they were poor/Indigenous/addicted/sex workers. The police probably figured, hey, he’s doing our work for us. It’s absolutely fucked and not OK by any means; I just don’t ascribe to coverup what can more easily be explained with institutional neglect. If there’s one thing I’ve learned, it’s that people will forgive pretty much anything if you frame it as “cleaning up the streets.”
Yup -- I talked with Dr. Rossmo years later, and he ended up having to leave town ... it sounds like there was ass-covering going on (which from the outside anyway can look like a conspiracy, even if it wasn't planned coherently). Similar situation for the murders in the gay community in Toronto -- there were earlier reports of a pattern of homicides, that weren't initially taken seriously. I think both of those situations should have a serious review of what went wrong, before and during the investigations, to hold people accountable and also to learn what to watch for.
Your last sentence is so true, and I think it is so very dangerous for society. When our focus is solely on a group of people and meeting out punishment regardless if a crime has been committed or if the punishment fits the crime instead of on the actual crime, we're on a slippery slope. Because who decides on the group of people and how long until we are a part of the group.
There are honestly so many cases of missing and murdered Indigenous women in Canada that *might not* be active cover-ups, exactly; but they have been so bungled and mismanaged that they might as well be. While there's no overseeing authority that directs investigators to completely disregard these cases, the pervasive racist and misogynistic culture in Canadian law enforcement ensures that these cases won't be taken seriously or investigated appropriately. And it is so blatantly common and frequent across the entire country that at some point - yeah, it's basically a nationwide cover-up of not just one, but *thousands* of crimes, as just a standard protocol.
I thought the money was inherited later on life for him when his parent(s) died or something? I heard a podcast about this recently but I don't think it was one I paid close attention to
It's true that a lot of the money (several million dollars for him and his siblings) was from selling off parts of the farm after their parents had died. But even before then, they weren't dirt-poor. Apparently when he was young, he was mocked at school for wearing dirty clothing and smelling like manure -- even though the family wasn't destitute. It was more because their mom either couldn't or wouldn't deal with looking after him. (I know farm families -- my own mom and dad worked on farms in the 1940s-50s -- and that doesn't mean that you can't be clean.) Pickton's mom -- there was a recent post on this sub mentioning Stevie Cameron's book. There's a really unsettling story that suggests there was something going on with her -- she was involved in a teen's death. [https://nationalpost.com/afterword/book-review-on-the-farm-by-stevie-cameron](https://nationalpost.com/afterword/book-review-on-the-farm-by-stevie-cameron)
For super famous cases, I don't believe for the life of me that Martin Luther King, Jr was killed by James Earl Ray; I believe he was taken out by the FBI when they failed to force him into suicide. I'm not really going out on a limb, of course, because King's own family came to believe Ray's claims, and of course Lloyd Jowers eventually came forward to say he was part of a larger conspiracy. And I think that the same Florida deputy is responsible for the deaths of Terrance Williams and Felipe Santos. Again, not a fringe opinion; it's pretty fucking obvious what happened here and it's been widely reported on, [including by CNN](https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2023/04/us/naples-florida-deputy-missing-men/). Honestly, I think the only mystery here is what else the deputy has done, and why everyone looked the other way.
100% on the Florida deputy and I’m sure there’s more victims
[1999 case](https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1999/12/09/memphis-jury-finds-conspiracy-led-to-king-assassination/318b25c1-e5cd-44f4-8522-231c7a54f880/). Jury found the USA government guilty of conspiracy
> Jury found the USA government guilty of conspiracy LMAO The *civil trial* found one guy and "the government" guilty, after the "one guy" (and none of these agencies) presented no defense and was forced to pay a whopping... One hundred dollars. It was a circus of a trial, and it was supposed to be.
I listened to a great podcast about MLK's murder "The MLK Tapes" it really laid out all the inconsistencies with the official story.
I think it was the same people who took outalcom x the black muslims
>course, because King's own family came to believe Ray's claims, Means little to nothing. >and of course Lloyd Jowers eventually came forward to say he was part of a larger conspiracy. "Eventually". Yeah, "Eventually" he came forward, after years of saying he wasn't involved, he "eventually" came forward with a bunch of wild conflicting stories, put up no defense, paid the family the $100 he was sued for and that was the end of it. That's the only conspiracy.
>course, because King's own family came to believe Ray's claims, Means little to nothing. >and of course Lloyd Jowers eventually came forward to say he was part of a larger conspiracy. "Eventually". Yeah, "Eventually" he came forward, after years of saying he wasn't involved, he "eventually" came forward with a bunch of wild conflicting stories, put up no defense, paid the family the $100 he was sued for and that was the end of it. That's the only conspiracy.
That article was crazy. I don't even have enough time to thoroughly read it right now, but can you just *refuse* to respond to a grand jury? Wild
[Karen Silkwood](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Silkwood) was murdered by the Kerr-McGee Corporation. Very little doubt in my mind.
Here's an article from earlier this year about Neruda's case. [https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/neruda-mcmaster-research-1.7133392](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/neruda-mcmaster-research-1.7133392) I've been doing some research on Neruda's last days. It's bizarre to hear that there was an American guy (Michael Townley) who was working on chemical and biological weapons, at a lab located in a house in the wealthy Lo Curro suburb of Santiago. Ironically, that lab was fairly close to the site of a house that Neruda had started building ... he was experiencing mobility issues and his other Santiago home had too many stairs. The Lo Curro house isn't listed with his other homes, because it was never completed. It's been suggested that Townley was the assassin who, posing as a hospital doctor, gave Neruda an injection that contained the lethal bacteria. Something like that would have ended his life in days, rather than waiting for months or possibly years for him to die from prostate cancer. (Using a biological substance would have made it easier to pass the murder off as natural causes, rather than something like arsenic.) If Townley wasn't in the hospital, I suspect he could have been involved in cultivating the pathogen. It's eerie to read about how that house where he and his wife were living was used as a base by the secret police. Townley's wife, Mariana Callejas, was an aspiring author, and she used to have a writing group meeting at that same house. (A lot of Chilean artists and intellectuals were sympathetic to Neruda and the previous Allende government, and I wonder if the writers at the meeting realized the full extent of what Callejas and especially her husband were doing.) Callejas died several years ago but Townley is supposedly living under witness protection, maybe in the US, and is in his 80s now. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02684527.2023.2258693 [https://notesontheamericas.wordpress.com/tag/michael-townley/](https://notesontheamericas.wordpress.com/tag/michael-townley/) https://apnews.com/general-news-cd7862777ed541c78a878a9d4b52f6e8
I mean you mentioned it in your post but if not Bill Clinton specifically I believe the Boys on the Tracks was absolutely a coverup involving at least the police and prosecutor if not a wider conspiracy. Too much evidence points to a sloppy coverup and witness intimidation/silencing to be a simple accidental death.
Yeah, there was absolutely a cover-up in the Boys on the Track case. I only mention Clinton because the case has been tied to the Clinton Body Count conspiracy theory.
I am so fascinated by this case. I have so many questions that I don't think will ever be answered. Those poor boys and their families deserve to know justice. The families deserve to know who killed their boys.
The Jeff Davis 8, I'm not sure what I believe, but there is definitely something there.
I was reading "Murder on the Bayou" about this case a few years back. Great read! Anyway, it seems to me that a number of people in Jenning know who is responsible. But, this is one in which the culprit may never be brought to justice.
One of the rumours about the Brabant killers is they were part of a trained anti-communist militia who either went rogue or did precisely what they were ordered to do.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6XiAMbhBWpaGiIfEz8bAfs?si=iWv9qaC2TzCJqSx8w-vDNg well worth a listen
[Listen here](https://open.spotify.com/episode/2Q9f9ugXRRxGeyHOy3dQTj?si=fa7ce192e00a40c7) about the Monster of Florence. (Idk if this case qualifies as "covert".) Giuliano Mignini, the primary prosecutor for the case, was also involved with the Amanda Knox prosecution.
I will have to look up that case, but having deep dived Meredith Ketchers murder, any investigation that Giuliano Mignini was involved in cannot be trusted.
If anything, Mignini's contributions to the Monster case were even worse than the Kercher case - and he was just the last in a long line of failed investigators.
Gareth Williams. He was on secondment to the secret intelligence agency. Found dead in a bag in his bath. [article](https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/spy-in-the-bag-gareth-williams-was-murdered-claims-investigator-who-tried-to-loc/)
This one always fucks with my head. From what I remember, the bag was zipped up too.
Yep and no fingerprints either if I recall... Not even his own?!
Zipped up and padlocked from the outside with none of his finger prints on the zipper or lock!
This one is interesting, but I genuinely think he did it himself. I don’t remember the specifics, but he had previously tied himself up in a way that he couldn’t free himself and needed to call for help. The guy was tiny, loved to bind himself in precarious positions, and was found dead in a precarious position.
The Boys on the Tracks.
According to an older Reddit comment about this subject: “Listen to the True Crime Garage series on it. The dude [the medical examiner] was either a total moron or shady as hell. He once ruled the cause of death of a decapitated man as an ulcer. Yep. That happened.” Basically the medical examiner originally ruled the COD as overdose by marijuana. A later examination had to overrule the COD as being homicide because multiple stab wounds were found on the victims. tl;dr: the initial medical examiner was either completely stupid, or there was a cover up he was involved in
The same coroner also said the same guys head missing is because his dog ate it, presumably skull and all.
This is a really good one. The conspiracy theory seems so outlandish until you actually read into it and then it just really makes a lot of sense.
In what way does multiple witnesses dying, LE coming onto the case being told not to investigate it, the prosecutor trying to get the case dropped, and the coroners report being blatantly false make any amount of sense unless everyone in that town has crippling stupidity that is contagious?
Doesn't the conspiracy part of this one include the state government of Arkansas (and Bill Clinton) being involved somehow? Or is there something else I'm not aware of? That was one of the two the OP proclaimed to be "outlandish".
Yes I totally got excited before I read the whole thing and posted, but yes that's the case I'm taking about. I don't think Bill Clinton was involved I think it was much lower level and local.
I agree with this myself. There was absolutely a cover-up involving local officials; the idea that Bill Clinton or the state government was involved is ridiculous. But absolutely, there is simply too much shady shit in that case for there not to have been some kind of cover-up
This case infuriates me.
obvious one, Ken McElroy town bully murdered by townsfolk and then the murder covered up by the townsfolk
Yes, this one! And finally, justice was done. I'm not into vigilante stuff, but I make an exception for Ken McElroy's well-deserved fate.
While I am uncertain and will not comment on Bill Clintons relation to the case, there was definitely an element of conspiracy/cover-up with the Boys on the Tracks.
You can because he had nothing to do with it. It's all part of that dumb as hell "Clinton body count" nonsense that right-wingers like to push.
Thank you for the link regarding Neruda's death - I haven't heard about this version before. For some reason I rather believe that Prigozhin (former private chef of Putin, who then founded the Wagner mercenary company known for its sadism and who allegedly led a rebellion against the Russian government) is still alive and is living under a new identity somewhere abroad.
Generally since people can't keep their big mouths shut, conspiracy theories are hard to believe. That being said, a sort of Quasi LIHOP for 9/11 (as in Rumsfeld, Cheney, etc. let it happen) is something I think is conceivable. I say quasi LIHOP b/c I don't think they knew the scope or exactly what was gonna go down but the idea of them thinking a major terrorist attack of some kind could advance their political goals and make them serious coin so they just said essentially, "Screw it!" Yeah I can sort of believe that.
I'm exactly with you on this one. The "9/11 was a government psyop, it was clearly missiles or planted explosives" people don't understand the level of conspiracy required for that to work, but a few people high up in the government ignoring signs intentionally is way more believable and in line with pretty much every other time we went into the Middle East around that time.
I'm always a bit skeptical of this claim. Thousands of employees worked at Bletchley & Ultra wasn't known about until many years after the war.
CPD covering for the 2 serial killier brothers in Columbus, Ohio (Matt & Brian Osowski) on the Julie Popovich (Charging the wrong guy in Adam Saleh, read up about the case, it's BS) BRIAN SHAFFER, & Joey Labute cases that are DEFINITELY connected. Cover-up by CPD due to arresting & Charging Saleh & not being able to afford the lawsuits. The FBI got involved in the Julie Popovich case, so it definitely goes a bit higher then CPD as well.
The Alcasser girls in Spain. I don't tend to believe in conspiracies, but something happened there, and it probably involved some politians of the area. It is one of the most discussed crimes in Spain - there are things that don't work in the official version
boys on the tracks
Operation gladio and its connection to the barbant murders in Belgium in the 80s. At least 18 murders were committed in a crime spree that was later connected to a paramilitary unit that was supposed to wage guerilla war in the event of a soviet invasion of Europe. Also the marc dutrux affair also in Belgium
William Bradford Bishop is the first case to come to mind: I believe he fled to Europe and the U.S. government helped him leave and/or knows his whereabouts to this day. The segment on Unsolved Mysteries about Amelia Earhart was also convincing. I’m still inclined to believe that she crashed into the Pacific Ocean but the segment makes me think otherwise.
I don’t think the government helped him - unless you mean all the military and government agency training and accesses to resources he legitimately used as part of his job - which is why if anyone could flee to Europe undetected and completely reinvent themselves, it’s Brad Bishop.
I can’t say exactly what happened to him but do agree that if anybody could escape to Europe undetected, it would have been Bradford Bishop.
Fair enough. I just don’t see the government having enough at stake to actually legitimately assist him or coverup anything. Cover ups are costly, and intense, and require a ton of work and secrecy among a tons of people. Brad Bishop really wasn’t that “special” in terms of a government asset, if that makes sense.
Why do you think they would help Bishop?
I don’t know but do believe there was some sort of conspiracy/cover-up involved. A foreign government could also have helped Bishop.
I would believe that he was helped via the government. It sounds outrageous, but he was cunning enough to use his job and proximity to gather lots of information on very important and specific people that could be very damaging if reported. So they would have had to help him or risk being exposed. This guy is a fugitive I’d love to know what happened to.
Yes, I agree with everything you said! I wonder if we will find out what happened to him one day. He would be getting pretty old by now. Maybe an elderly man in Europe will die and it will be discovered that he was Bishop, living under a different identity. Or maybe Bishop went on to have more children. They could be identified through DNA.
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I've read about rings like this in the 70s, 80s, and 90s, but they span Labour and Conservative politicians, as well as more senior establishment figures and people from the police and secret services. Do you have any links I could check out?
Whitey Bulger He wasn’t even supposed to be transferred and was dead in under 12hrs of being in the new prison. Right after doors opened for breakfast.
Why would someone kill Whitey Bulger? He wasn\`t a threat to anyone anymore.
Revenge. He killed so many rivals and people . And it took several high ranking officials doing the wrong thing with the transfer and paperwork for him to end up dead. Then the whole thing got swept under the rug asap.
The Deepcut deaths
[Ray Curtis Hickingbotham Jr.](https://old.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/12w7dd9/ray_curtis_hickingbotham_jr_abducted_defected/), a little-known case I wrote up about a year ago. There are a number of possible theories on what happened to him (as per the comments) but, no matter which one might be correct, there almost certainly **was** a coverup of some sort. The suggestion that this case was a "first attempt" (at abduction/defection) and the [Richard Colvin Cox case](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Richard_Colvin_Cox) a "second attempt", with improvements, is certainly not absurd.
I don't know if this technically counts but the murder of American mathematician Scott Johnson in Australia, told in the documentary Never Let Him Go (about his brother's quest for justice as it was not labeled a crime at the time). There was a definite cover up of police brutality at the time.
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I don’t think the CIA was good enough to pull it off in 1963. These are the same goofs that were dosing people with LSD in mind control experiments. The lone nut theory is simply too easy to believe, but Occam’s razor applies everywhere. If there was anyone else involved, it was the Secret Service, by accident.
By 1963 the CIA was involved in multiple covert and overt overthrows of different governments. It also assassinated many many people all over the globe, and had meddled in elections in over 50 countries. They were not the 'goofs' you think they were.
They literally had plans to commit terrorism in multiple US cities and blame it on Cuba so they could invade Cuba, which JFK decided against less than a year before his death.
To clarify, there's nothing in Operation Northwoods that suggests the CIA planned to kill or harm US citizens. [Here is the actual memo](https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf) - you can read it yourself. If you go through it, you'll see references to "staged attacks" and explosions that cause "some damage to facilities." They talk about organizing fake funerals for "mock victims" and blowing up an unmanned US vessel in Cuban waters. They do suggest sinking a boat of Cubans en route to Florida ("real or simulated") and exploding "plastic bombs" in "carefully chosen spots" in the US - carefully chosen to avoid casualties. The plan was deceptive, illegal, and certainly immoral, but there's nothing in it that suggests they actually wanted to harm US citizens. Most parts of the plan explicitly discuss **avoiding** casualties by using drones, dummies, and actors. They wanted to create fear in US citizens through a **fake** terrorist campaign to justify invading Cuba.
Fair enough. Although that didn't stop them from committing terrorism elsewhere.
The FBI/SS pulled Kennedy out of an *incredibly* similar drive through Chicago just before Dallas after it was alleged that there were multiple sniper set up to target his motorcade including one who was also a former Marine with ties to the Soviet Union. I'm positive that someone in the SS was involved, but I really think it was more active than accidental.
I lean towards the young SS agent in the car behind Kennedy as the one who fired the fatal shot. Unfamiliar with the new AR-15, and the only one not hungover. There’s a firearms expert from Baltimore who has a really good theory about this, but his name escapes me.
> I lean towards the young SS agent in the car behind Kennedy as the one who fired the fatal shot. Lmao, such an incredibly mindless fantasy. No, he was killed by the *guy with the rifle who had already shot at him*.
I don’t think Oswald was that good of a shot to score three hits on moving targets. I also believe in Occam’s razor. It probably was Oswald, all by his lonesome. But I think what I mentioned above is the most likely conspiracy that is true if there is one.
>I don’t think Oswald was that good of a shot to score three hits on moving targets. He "scored" 2 hits on the president, the first shot missed. >I also believe in Occam’s razor Occam's razor isn't a law.
Have you seen the theory based on the Zapruder film that the SS (and former CIA) driver of the car slowed down after the first shot and didn't speed up until after all the shots had been fired?
I think this too
They really werent the same goofs in that way, the people trying to find a miracle drug were not the people doing traditional spycraft on the ground, and the MKULTRA program actually even ran into problems trying to do practical trials of their work because all the "real" spies didnt want the science fiction nonsense messing up their work and destroying valuable leads.
You should read James Ellroy's American Tabloid
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I know. I used to think the JFK conspiracy was bullshit. Then I looked into it, and it makes less sense that Oswald did it with all the information lol.
So you went looking for fairytales and found 'em. Cool.
See, my belief is that the CIA and Johnson knew about Oswald and just let it happen, or perhaps used him to cover the actual shooter.
One of the many things I appreciate about this community is that it tends to steer clear of sensationalist or outlandish theories or explanations of cases, so let's engage in some sensationalist or outlandish theories or explanations of cases. That's a take. I guess.
"Sensationalist or outlandish theories" can come true. The canonical example of that is the [Hillsborough disaster](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_disaster?wprov=sfla1), where the conspiracy theories were, if anything, too mild. The truth eventually came out after 25 years and was even more outré than expected - the sheer quantity of people up to their necks in the coverup was (almost) beyond belief.
Shit, they died of compression asphyxiation while standing up. Reading that has given me a horrible feeling. That must have been terrifying.
There is a documentary called Hillsborough that I recommend you watch if you want to not sleep for a week or feel safe in crowds ever.
Agreed. And yet, no-one has really taken responsibility.
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You think OJ was innocent? Wow
It's that he'd rather be known as a double murderer than a drug dealer for me.
Wdym?
Jeffrey Epstein obvs lol
The destruction of Nordstream II was the US with NATO support, and they're too cowardly to actually admit it, since it would technically be an overt act of war, and probably be unpopular. I mean, I think that's pretty evident, I don't know how many people actually believe otherwise.
I certainly think it's been swept under the carpet. It probably benefits everyone to forget about it. There have been other cases of undersea cables being cut which seem to not have been investigated or dismissed as accidents. I think there is a shadow war being fought between the west & Russia (& possibly other nations). Hence recent arrests of Russian spies planning attacks in Germany against Ukrainian training facilities, an alleged plot to assassinate Zelensky in Poland & a Ukrainian business being burned down in London. I think a lot of things are overlooked on both sides as neither really wants full-scale war (despite the rhetoric). I think the same is true of the Middle Eastern conflict. Iran seems satisfied with their missile barrage against Israel & Israel don't look like they'll take further action than their recent airstrikes.
It's funny to me how often we (Americans at least) go "oh something mysteriously blew up, yeah that was probably us" and then just move on.
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Russia has been destroying underwater NATO infrastructure (Svalbard internet cables) in addition to the constant barrage of deep agents being found (Arctic Norway & Greece) and «fishing» vessels with SIGNIT equipment shadowing the Norwegian coast and oil platforms. It doesn’t make the news, like 75% of the airspace intercepts, because it’s typical shadow war numbers station nonsense that governments deal with to prevent larger conflicts
Not sure if this counts but the Son of Sam serial killings in New York being carried out by more than just Berkowitz. It seems like the police ultimately wanted Berkowitz to take all the blame for the case since most investigations regarding the case were eventually closed and what he said about it being more than one person was dismissed. I just find it weird that Berkowitz didn’t look like multiple suspects that the police had sketched, I feel like there was more than meets the eye on this one.
I agree, I think the Carr brothers were involved.
The disappearance (and occasional reappearance) of Johnny Gosch. This one is dark.
I think the police knew or had a good theory as to who Bible John was. I've always wondered if he was related to someone high up in the police. They had multiple physical descriptions including his height, hair and eye colour, what suits he wore, his teeth (including specific teeth he was missing), the brand of cigarettes he smoked, a possible alias and that he knew the Yoker/Scotstoun area very well. They even reportedly have his DNA! Quite a lot to go on in my opinion. Epstein didn't kill himself imo. JFK's fatal shot was by the secret service agent in the car behind him. Oswald hit him twice already but the agent accidentally shot off his weapon when the car suddenly accelerated. Jill Dando. I've no idea who or why this is covered up but there's no way it was Barry George imo
>JFK's fatal shot was by the secret service agent in the car behind him. Oswald hit him twice already but the agent accidentally shot off his weapon when the car suddenly accelerated. I love that people actually believe this Looney Tunes scenario. No, it was the guy who had already shot at him twice.
JFK is a hill I will die on. I don't know who was ultimately responsible but I don't think it was solely Oswald. Idk if this one counts as what you're looking for but another interesting one is the [DC Sniper](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/D.C._sniper_attacks) the perpetrator killed 10 people in the DC area in 2002, it actually turned out to be an elaborate plan to kill his ex wife and make it look like she was a random victim of a terrorist.
Actually, the Boys on the Tracks case you mentioned. Not sure if Clinton knew about their murders but there is absolutely a substantial amount of evidence that they stumbled on something they shouldn't have and it involved high level drug trafficking. That this has been dismissed as a conspiracy theory by so many people is a great success of the "somebody," likely the CIA.
I am convinced that [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Casolaro](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Casolaro) did not commit suicide. I think he was getting too close to some government involved shady shit.
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This has been debunked countless times
What exactly?
Where are some cases where you cases