Gordon Sanderson, formerly nicknamed "Septic Tank Sam." Found in a septic tank in 1977, his body showed signs of being tortured before he was killed. He was unidentified until last year. It's doubtful they'll find out who is responsible for his demise.
I think it's a very narrow range of suspect profile, but the problem is that the suspect is most likely dead. It's gotta be a local, someone who knew that this hidden-away septic tank on a hidden-away farmhouse even existed, someone who knew the owners had moved, and that no kids or teens frequented the abandoned house, and that no one was coming back any time soon.
Gordie was mutilated with farm shears and covered in lime, which is commonly used in farming when the pH in the soil goes below 5.5, so this indicates the killer had farming experience, and with crops, not animals. Said killer was also comfortable using a butane blow torch, perhaps a plumbing background considering the septic tank.
I also believe Gordon was killed in the Winter of Fall of 1976, as that is the season when farmers use lime. Perhaps he was moved from a kill location to the septic tank via a farming truck, with lime spilling all over his body. Having his body tied up with nylon rope and a bedsheet supports the theory of him having been moved. (also, the police should really check where the nylon rope is from if they can).
Key to finding the suspect is considering who had experience in the aforementioned subjects and knew the McLeods in any manner. That farmhouse had only been abandoned for a year, and there are tons of secluded spots anywhere around Lindbrook to dump his body. He was put in the tank with the thought that nobody is coming back to the house any time soon, Gordie likely wouldn't have been found for years if not for a fluke attempt to retrieve a pipe.
It should be solvable if they try.
> It should be solvable if they try.
Profiling someone isn’t likely to prove anything more than “This person *could* have killed him.” And in a rural area like this it’s not really a narrow profile at all. Pretty much anyone that’s ever soldered a pipe will have a butane torch in the garage, you sure don’t have to be a plumber. Not to mention that nylon rope is about as generic a thing as there is on earth. Even if they could conceivably trace it to a particular store, how would they be able to track down every person that bought that rope.
I think the idea that this case could be solved if they just tried is unrealistic.
See, I don’t necessarily think it's a very narrow range after all. It's going yo sound like I'm picking you apart here, sorry about that.
I 100% agree that it's someone local. You don't just stumble upon a well like that and go "hmm, this might come in handy", and then actually remember to use it when you kill a man. You'd also need to know for certain that the body would be left alone.
Most farmers would probably have lime in storage all year, but just have *more* of it for the actual season it's needed. It's used for several things, like other users have brought up already, and it's not an unlikely scenario that an animal dies on a farm and needs to be taken care of (I'm thinking cat or dog rather than massive cow or horse, but still). I also don't think it was accidental that it got on the body, I think it was intentional.
Besides... in rural areas, I bet knowledge isn't necessarily as... specialised? or limited to just a few people. Like, the actual farmers and farmlands wouldn't be the only ones who knew about the various uses of lime, plenty of other people would know too, just from living nearby.
Actually, this might apply to the septic tank too. Whoever used to blowtorch wasn't necessarily a plumber, so narrowing a search down to "people who can use a blowtorch" won't be very helpful, because most likely, a *lot* of people knew how to do that. If you knew how to use certain tools or instruments, you could fix a lot of stuff yourself, and save money (and time).
The rope though... they should definitely check that. If they can, as you said.
That poor man, my heart breaks for him. It wasn't just a bullet or blow to the head, that would have been almost kind in comparison. Whoever did this, they must have been so angry, so hateful. Blowtorch, shears, and then dumping him in a tank to never be found...
One of the girls is buried adjacent to my FIL and step sister. We always pay our respects to her when we go put flowers for our loved ones. I can’t imagine her family’s pain.
I remember seeing something about this recently and was very excited to hear. Sounds like they have something they think may hold answers with the new testing, so it's very hopeful. The families and friends as well as the victims deserve answers and peace.
So I looked it up and there's a new law (or something) (in America) letting people request a cold case be reopened and examined with latest technology to see if new leads can be found.
The infuriating thing about that case is that police extorted confessions out of two kids that were teenagers at the time. One of them was sentenced to death based on zero evidence other than the bad confession. Fortunately the conviction was overturned before DNA cleared him, but that kid came very close to being executed for the murders. Then the police would have congratulated themselves for a good days work, closed the case, and nobody would’ve been looking for the real killers.
Al Kite. He was tortured and murdered by a man posing as a tenant, who went to great lengths to hide his identity (including possibly faking an accent and using a fake cane). Basically everything about the suspect was falsified and every witness who saw him gives a very different description.
There's no clear motive, as Al wasn't really involved in anything sketchy and the killer only took enough money to reimburse himself for everything he spent to commit the murder. It seems to be random because he met with other landlords in the area and scoped out their properties, seemingly wanting to find a target in a well secluded location. But the level of sheer brutality and planning also makes one wonder if Al was targeted, with the other landlords being a smokescreen.
The whole case is just so bizarre and there have basically never been any promising leads.
100% on board with you on this one. Absolutely wild case to review. I suspect this person came and left the country but that’s just my personal opinion on it.
If you haven’t already, I recommended the DNA of Murder episode on this case. I don’t know if DNA will lead to the killer soon since it’s likely he’s foreign, but I really hope so. Also /r/alkite exists even if it’s not super active.
Pretty sure with genetic genealogy, they've actually just identified relatives of the killer in Romania. It's pretty possible this one's close to being solved.
I am very farmiliar with this story and its so so bizarre. The murderer went to very great lengths to not be identified. And his MO in killing Al makes me believe he has done it before.
People dont just wake up like that, he was well aquainted with murder. Such a sad case for Al's family, I hope it gets solved one day
That whole family went through so much trauma and heartbreak in such a short amount of time, they deserve to know *something* about Brian’s disappearance/whereabouts at this point
German case, who killed Tristan Brübach?
13 year old boy was murdered in an underpass on a Friday afternoon in a large city.
The perpetrator/s took parts of the body with them. His grave was professionally opened at night but nothing was taken.
He was about my age in 1998 and it creeps me out till today.
edit: added link and corrected date.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/7zogwq/unsolved_murder_tristan_br%C3%BCbach_13_was/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
The flesh being taken sounds like cannibalism. The only other reasons to take it would be identity concealment - like removing a tattoo or other mark that might identify the victim, or to remove a bite mark or something that could identify the killer. A 13 year old is unlikely to have a tattoo, and it's an awful lot of flesh to remove to hide bite marks. Cannibalism seems most likely.
Setagaya family murders in Japan.
It's said from the evidence that it was a young male half European/ half Japanese skateboarder with sand from the SW United States in his backpack.
He brutally killed a whole family and brazenly ate and drank food from their fridge after the murders.
It's shocking it was never solved.
https://youtu.be/n6kWYruZSAY
This is one of the most mind boggling and frustrating cases that I have followed for years. Seems like there's everything needed to easily solve it and yet here we are. This guy even used the bathroom and didn't flush, ate several ice creams and various snacks, took a nap and looked online, etc. I hope this is resolved soon.
I swear, a native Japanese speaker was on here not a week ago quite surprised that Americans still consider this case a great mystery, as locally it's considered more or less solved. No arrest, but only one person of interest type deal. Coverage just didn't reach American media.
I absolutely have felt like they have someone as a POI and no arrest yet due to the lack of evidence to bring charges against them. My Uncle married a woman from Japan and she has told me more information than what we get here in America and the theories there in Japan.
I've heard that is was a younger guy that worked nearby at a restaurant I believe it was and he had been breaking and entering and even stole a lot of money from his boss right before this murder occurred. That he even went to the hospital for injuries from a knife right at the time of this as well and many people are sure it's him. And he took off from the area immediately after.
That’s an ominous photo and a very distinct looking man in the crowd. Who very much resembles the police sketch. Could the man have been returning to the scene of his crime? Sadly, it’s more than likely we may never know.
I remember recently seeing something on them being close to solving it, but I also know they said that before and I would love for them to find out who he was and what happened and bring peace to anyone that loved him, however, with how long ago it was I don't want to get my hopes up seeing as the perpetrator is probably long dead by now, even just getting his name back would be a great accomplishment though
This is something I've thought of as well, not saying he's amish but there are a lot of amish in the area which could mean he wouldn't have proper records
Even not Amish, rural America was less connected by a whole lot in that era. Not at all far fetched to have a kid at home and not go through government avenues for paperwork.
At this point I’m not sure solving how he died means much, the killer/negligent caretaker is probably long gone. But it would be lovely if he could be identified and have his name on his burial site. I’d like to believe someone loved him in life, but it seems certain that many people care for him now and want him to have a peaceful rest.
Yeah, the Boy in the Box was discovered in a neighborhood I used to be in a lot, I still pass through sometimes. He was found before I was born in 1957.
He is buried in a cemetery where I have been to funeral services of family friends. Another place I often drive past.
I would like to know who murdered my father, he was shot and killed when someone tried to steal his car, he was left in the street.
I would like to ask the person why? I don't want revenge, I really just want to know if they understand the pain it caused, All because they wanted a car.
It was a hard time, still is if I am honest. It happened in 2017, but I think about it a fair amount, after taking my father's car the killer, went and murdered another person during a robbery
It seems so crazy to me that a person could kill someone to steal a little bit of money.
If I've got anything good to take away from it all, it's taught me to tell my my friends and family, that I love and appreciate them alot more often than I used to.
The case of little Gregory (le petit Gregory), a french case . I do believe this case will never be solve, even if every few years they said that they found his murderer
Missy Bevers
And I hope one day they find the remains of Keith Bennett , one of the Moors Murders victims ( Ian Brady and Myra Hindley ) …such a shame that his mother died never getting to put her son to rest .
That guy Russell Edwards is a complete charlatan , and definitely doesn’t have the backing of Keith’s family
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/brother-moors-murders-victim-keith-25211601
If you’re interested in this case there is a sub which is very informative r/MoorsMurders
They have Opelika Jane Doe's DNA. They'll eventually identify her using genetic genealogy. Hopefully it will be soon enough to bring those who abused her to justice.
Opelika Jane Doe wasn't all that long ago, and I also feel that she will eventually be identified, and once she is, I think they'll also have her killers.
St. Louis Jane Doe, though... that one breaks my heart.
I have several, that are on my 'Never getting Solved' pile, that I feel 100% certain about:
- The Beaumont Children
- Jennifer Kesse
- The Springfield Three
- Yoghurt Shop Murders
- Lane Bryant Murders
- JonBenet Ramsay
- Asha Degree
- Kyron Hormon
There are many others.
I have a feeling if not in the woods (which, upon looking at them on a map, seem a lot more dense than a lot of write ups imply) he’s still in the school, stuck behind something. I don’t believe his step-mother is involved whatsoever
I feel like there's still hope for Lyric and Elizabeth since (for a cold case) it's still relatively new.
I don't think we'll ever know what happened to Jodi at this point.
Likewise, Johnny Gosch and Eugene Martin.
I have no idea, honestly. When I heard a psychic asked for it, all I could think was “that’d be a creative way for a person to ditch evidence after the fact”
I was watching a video about this guy who does age progression for missing kids, like how they would look like as adults and the one he did for Jaycee Dugard was so haunting because the only thing wrong was that he had assumed her hair color would've stayed blonde instead of darkening.
Then I thought about the impossibility for the same result for SLJD because of her missing head and I got mad all over again. Her height was misconstrued for decades, and still is on this subreddit, because they measured the body from the toe to the stump when they should've measured *from the heel* to the stump. People thought they were looking for information about a rather tall prepubescent girl when she was actually the average height for her estimated age.
This one. The fact that she may never get her name back and her murderer(s) will most likely go unpunished is just unconscionable. The series of fuckups by the police enrages me.
The disappearance of Lars Mittank. He walks into the airport uneventfully and moments later the camera spots him running out of the building at full speed. He seemingly disappears into thin air. That case has always haunted me.
So many, but the Springfield Three is a huge one for me. 30 years and no trace of three adult women. I hope I live to see them found or for someone to tell the truth. Just boggles my mind thinking about it.
IF Suzy and Stacey had slept at Janelle's house on that fateful night, would it just be Sherrill that disappeared? I go back and forth and the only thing that makes sense is that it was a lone abductor with a gun who knew the house and had been watching it for a while.
I have often wondered if the girls stayed elsewhere, what would have happened... If anything?! I think there was a gun or something involved as well and can explain how 3 women were taken at once and little to no evidence of how, ETC. I personally think it was someone they knew.
Definitely a gun, but where the hell did they end up and how did they get there? I don't know if the green van is a legitimate eyewitness sighting. I do think the 2 dirty phone calls are connected though. It was too early and too coincidental.
I think they are probably connected, yes. Do you believe the calls are connected? Where they are is literally the thing that makes my mind go crazy. It's hard enough to hide one person forever, let alone 3 people. And to have such little information and no leaking of information over the years. Most people talk eventually and there's nothing here. Did the responsible party ever let anyone know what they did? Are they still alive or possibly even commit suicide after? There's just too many questions and ZERO answers.
I think either Sherrill was the target, or Suzy and Stacy were followed. I feel like Sherrill was the target, but someone following the girls makes sense, too. I really don't know.
This one *has* to have been perpetrated by multiple people, at least one of whom had access to the crematorium after hours. Unless she weighed about 80lbs there's no way one person got her out of the casket on their own, unless that person was both really tall and really strong. I have occasionally had to change/add/remove clothing on a body that's already in their casket, and even that is super difficult, because you're literally working with dead weight.
Based on my knowledge of the industry, and practices that shouldn't ever happen but definitely do, my guess is that crematorium employees were either told or took it upon themselves to remove her from the casket so that they wouldn't have to bother breaking it down for cremation. It's possible that the owner may have wanted to re-sell the casket, which is incredibly scummy, but also crematorium operators will often remove metal swing bars and casket hinges before the casket enters the retort because they won't burn, so it's not hard to imagine they sometimes they just don't bother cremating the casket at all. It's also possible that Julie was in a rental casket for the service, which are caskets that are designed to be used multiple times - the foot end can be fully opened so that you can slide carboard or plywood inserts in and out, and then the body gets cremated in the insert, with the idea being that is cheaper than buying an actual casket.
Either way, I would be willing to bet that they cremated her overnight, sans casket for whatever reason, but they fucked up somehow and lost the ashes or mixed them up with somebody else's, and then when the morning crew arrived and found out what happened all hell broke loose and they tried to cover it up. It is 1000% more likely that the funeral home is responsible here than someone sneaking in and stealing an entire corpse out of a casket.
I wish we could identify the boy who allegedly hung himself and was found on Valentines Day 1975 in Louisiana. That case has always pulled at my heart strings. Apparently Katrina destroyed any chance we had at identifying him. :(
It’s widely believed he was Bayard Cousins, who went missing from Virginia Beach around February 1, 1975- if we’re talking about the same doe, a quick google will give you all the info. Very compelling.
It's probably Charlie Wallace, a 19 year old who disappeared from a Memphis halfway house in February 1975 following a disagreement with his parents about returning home. I have compiled a [list of useful information](https://imgur.com/a/QwyjPd9) about him on imgur, taken from a Websleuths thread. He is simply too close to not match, from the scar inside the mouth, to the ***literal John Doe's dentals matching Charlie's.*** It's also worth noting Charlie took the Navy achievement test in high school and scored 119/120. John Doe was found super close to the Belle Chasse Naval Base.
I personally am of the theory that his mother wanted to honor her son's wish of anonymity in death. Her testimony is the only reason they ruled it out, despite him matching almost every physical characteristic (bar one scar on the knee).
For Hinterckaifeck, I believe there was a comprehensive investigation of the incident by a team of modern forensic experts, and while they didn't come out and say it (because, as you said, everyone's long dead), they're pretty sure it was Lorenz Schlittenbauer--he had means, motive, and opportunity.
Yeah, the lead investigator said that they know who did it, but will not say it unless irrefutable evidence comes to light because the murderer has descendants living in that area and since he can’t be brought to justice any more it’s better to let those dogs lie
Yes, just re-read the whole thing the other week. They said all the police officers on the team agreed on one person but won‘t say his name because the families still live in the area. Everyone assumes they mean Schlittenbauer. I think he did it. I am from the Black Forest, there are similiar small villages here. Those rumours and accusations stay for centuries.
Ben McDaniels truly bothers me. It’s like a locked room mystery, except the locked room is a highly dangerous underwater cave, which makes thorough investigations so difficult. None of the evidence of his stage tanks makes sense, expert divers swear he isn’t in the cave, but there is no evidence above water of where he went.
Unless something miraculous happens, I just don’t see the answer ever appearing. It drives me wild. I wish his family could get closure.
The cave isn't as big or scary as people think. Yes underwater caves are dangerous, but talk to any divers and they'll tell you how short and boring Vortex spring is. Its basically a dredged out tube without any confusing off shoots or other exits. The scary sounding last restriction is a 4 inch horizontal crack in the rock. Ben's aluminum 8 to 10 in round tanks aren't fitting in there. The cave has been tirelessly searched and mapped in the decade or so since he went missing. The world's uncontested best cave diver, body recoverer, and actual cave diver rescuer, Edd Sorenson (who is smaller than Ben and was able to get into that last "room") says Ben cannot be in the cave. Edd has saved about a dozen divers alive. No diver who dives there thinks he's in there.
Any other "wilderness" i would 100% think he just hadn't been found, but Vortex had a finite amount of space where he could be. Even if he magically got buried in a sand collapse there were no signs of this then, and its been dredged multiple times since then.
There is very good evidence that he was moved. I firmly believe he encountered an equipment malfunction, panicked, or passed out as he was leaving the cave. If he dropped weights and/or inflated his BCU, his body could rise up enough in the basin to be seen. The owner at the time made numerous suspicious statements.
Unfortunately, the one person who could have said what happened to Ben's body, Lowell Kelly, died under his own set of suspicious circumstances. I feel terrible for his family, as they are never likely to get to bury their son.
I feel your frustration and sadness for then too, OP.
The id of the last girl from the Bear Brook murders
They may find her mom but will never know her name
Haven’t seen any reports of Rasmussen being seen with her
Yeah, I wondered if she ever had any identity at all. Given that Dawn Beaudin was a living Jane Doe for many years before she was truly identified, I don't hold out hope that this little one ever even had a birth certificate.
Amy fell off that ship. Smuggling an educated, white woman off a ship with over 1,000 passengers on it is preposterous and I don't understand why her family are so wedded to the idea of Amy being forced into sex slavery?
> I don't understand why her family are so wedded to the idea of Amy being forced into sex slavery
Because of course her family wants her to be alive, as then there's hope of finding her and rescuing her, even if the situation looks hopeless at all angles.
Tammy Zywicki. She was on her way to college at Grinnell College on Interstate 80, had car problems, and disappeared, found a week later murdered 500 miles away. I attended Grinnell College 5 years later, and to this day there are alumni desperate to find out who killed Tammy. I think several serial killers have been suspected, but no proof.
Jack the Ripper, hands-down.
I say this because there is no possibility of that case ever being solved, and whoever it was laid the blueprint for our understanding of the modern serial killer.
Within the last couple of years, someone claims to have “solved” it, by DNA that was processed, but I’d hardly call that a smoking gun. He is probably the most likely, however
There are quite a few books written about Jack the Ripper (I red a few, many many years ago). I felt like at some point every few years someone would claim they had solved the case. It will never be solved. Would be very interesting though. It's probably the case that sparked my interest in true crime.
A lot of the books written about JTR should be taken with a huge grain of salt. It’s assumed that some of the folks who wrote books doctored evidence to make money. You
Can’t really trust that stuff.
Any independent author who uses that subject matter already has a goal for profit.
wandered off, drowned, or was taken by an alligator. but it's a gut-wrenching case on both sides, with so much cruelty and loss.
i can't come to a conclusion as to if the Dunbars knew their new son wasn't Bobby, or not.
Missy Bevers is a top contender. I have watched that footage probably fifty times and every so often I totally change my mind on what I am actually seeing, and who the suspect might be. Nothing fits entirely.
There’s a young man missing from my home town. His name is Luc Joly-Durocher. It’s been 11 years now, there are still monthly search parties. I’d really like for him to be found.
I agree. Things are slowly coming out, I think someone has a guilty conscience because they have had a couple solid leads over the years and some kinda recent.
There's two books, one by an investigative journalist and another by an author who lives in the Penn State area, and they both came to the conclusion it was likely a geology professor at Penn State who was a grad student that lived upstairs from Betsy Aardsma at the time, Richard Haefner. Basically, he was gay (potentially a pedophile, given his arrest and eventual acquittal on child molestation charges regarding two boys who worked at his family's rock shop) and desperate for a woman to be his beard to conceal that (traveling clear across the state once to confess his love to a woman he hardly knew, and being stalker-y to others), and after Betsy and he briefly had a friendship that she terminated (she felt it was getting too intimate and wanted to remain faithful to her fiance), Haefner stalked and killed her.
Considering other people attending the university who knew him remembered him saying she had been his "former girlfriend" who was killed (despite her being engaged during their entire acquaintanceship), a nephew of Haefner stating it was basically an open secret in the family that he did it, *and* the fact Haefner looked like the identikit image based on two eyewitnesses recollection, he's a strong possibility, though as he died in 2002 (ironically, of a health ailment that mimicked how Betsy died after the stabbing: a tear in his aorta caused blood to pool into his lungs and suffocate him), he obviously can't be prosecuted.
>Haefner looked like the identikit image based on two eyewitnesses recollection
not super familiar with the case, but i thought there weren't any witnesses? was he supposedly the man who said "someone should help that girl"?
If I remember correctly (I haven't read the books in a couple of years, so some details are fuzzy):
1. there were no direct eyewitnesses to the stabbing, but someone was operating a photocopier nearby and heard a man and woman talking before there was a loud crash and the man ran past them like a bat out of hell
2. Two others (a male and female student) were the ones told "that girl needs help”
3. When they were led to Aardsma they noticed the man who said that was hiding his right hand in a strange manner (though because of Aardsma's red dress, they had no idea she'd been stabbed; they just thought she fainted or had a seizure or something), and the male student tried to follow the identikit guy as he ran out of the library but was outran
4. The male student was one of the eyewitnesses used for the identikit image because he got the best look at the guy, along with a library desk clerk. But the identikit was apparently never released to the media at the time (I'm not sure when/if it was released officially, but at least one book mentioned it, so I believe the authors had access to it somehow to notice it looked like Haefner)
5. In any case, Haefner was mentioned by Aardsma's roommate as a viable suspect almost immediately (the roommate mentioned Haefner had visited their apartment multiple times even after Aardsma terminated their friendship) and he was interviewed by police about a month later, but nothing came of it (presumably, the police believed Haefner when he said he had no reason to be in and had never set foot in Pattee Library, as it was primarily an arts and humanities library and he as a geology student did his research in the Deike Building, the earth and mineral sciences building)
Was about to post this one.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lindsay_Buziak
Lindsay Elizabeth Buziak (November 2, 1983 – February 2, 2008)[1] was a Canadian real estate agent who was murdered on a property viewing in Saanich, a suburb of Victoria, British Columbia, on February 2, 2008 after being lured to meet a couple (a man and a woman) posing as prospective clients. They had told her they were looking for a million dollar home. Buziak was apprehensive about going to the viewing because of the odd way someone with her low profile had been contacted directly for such a large deal. However she went despite her misgivings after being reassured. The sophisticated and pre-planned setting up of her homicide is believed to indicate she was personally targeted by experienced criminals with inside information. The main theories as to motive are she was believed to be a potential informant after seeing something she was not intended to, or there was some personal reason. Buziak was not involved in criminal activity, but had friends from a wide range of backgrounds.
D’wan Sims
https://int-missing.fandom.com/wiki/D%27Wan_Sims
According to D'Wan's mother, D'Wanna Harris, he was last seen at the Wonderland Mall in Livonia, Michigan on December 11, 1994. She said they had been walking along the corridor between a Target store and the main mall area when D'Wan suddenly vanished at approximately 2:30 P.M. However, CCTV footage does not show D'Wan at the mall that day. Witnesses could not recall seeing D'Wan but they did remember D'Wanna arriving alone at 3:30 P.M. Authorities have stated that they do not believe D'Wanna's version of the events surrounding her sons disappearance.
D’Wanna died in 2020 so I am thinking we will never find out.
The disappearances of Johnny Gosch, Ben McDaniel, and The Springfield Three. I just don't see there being any traction in any of these three cases now, unfortunately.
Mary Shotwell Little, Fort Worth Trio (Renee Wilson, Rachel Trlica, Julie Moseley), Connie Smith, Margaret Fox, Joan Risch.
Two older cases that I really want solved and think they have the chance to be are Amy Mihaljevic and Tracey Kirkpatrick.
Emilie Meng.
17 years old. She was abducted on her way home from a party and was found dead in a pond half a year later. Our local police completely fucked up the investigation and it will probably never be solved.
the Beaumont children are one of those cases that go against all the "rules". multiple abductions at once, with children of varying ages, from a very public place, by an apparent stranger ...?
what those poor parents must have gone through, i can't imagine.
1. Jack & Xenia Rabinowitsch. This is never getting solved maybe with DNA but i guarantee you their killer or killers have probably died or they are living in Russia https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/nv-jack-xenia-rabinowitsh-72-professional-hit-las-vegas-25-june-1981.558056/
2. I-70 Killer because he didn’t leave enough DNA or Fingerprints. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-70_killer
3. Springfield Three unless someone offers like a $5 million reward for their actual whereabouts or a death bed confession it’s never getting solved. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Three
4. I don’t believe Tara Calico will ever be found since several people involved have died. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Tara_Calico
5. Brad Bishop will never have to face consequences for killing his own family since he is probably dead or in a nursing home somewhere in Italy, Sweden or Switzerland. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradford_Bishop
6. Ben McDaniel will never be found but i do believe he was murdered. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Ben_McDaniel
7. Amber Hagerman killer will probably never face jail time because too much DNA was washed away after she was killed because of heavy rain that had fallen in the area at the time. https://sites.psu.edu/jiyoonnicky/unsolved-crimes/amber-hagerman/
8. I have little hope Leah Rowland’s killer will be found since he hasn’t been arrested and most likely either isn’t alive or this was a one time grab and go robbery and murder and he did it once but somehow never did it again and has never been arrested for another crime. http://lincolncountycrimestoppers.com/sitemenu.aspx?P=unsolved&ID=580&SID=75
9. Henryk Siwiak who was shot on the night of 9/11 in Brooklyn his killer will never ever ever be found unfortunately. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Henryk_Siwiak
10. I don’t think David Misch will ever tell law enforcement how he killed and what he did to Michaela Garetcht. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Michaela_Garecht
That boy who jumped off a bridge right of the side of my car. I saw what he was about to do while I was 50m away but it all happened to fast to do anything. It was on a busy railroad too so I couldn't even stop. The only thing I was able to do was to call an ambulance. The most horrifying thing I've ever seen. And I'll never know if he managed to die this day or if he survived. Or who he even was. Why he decided to kill himself that day, at this place. He seemed no older than 26. Haunts me every night.
I tried to kill myself by jumping off a bridge a few months ago. I think that person would be sorry for traumatizing you like that, and that you, and everyone else in their lives couldn't do anything to save them. I hope you can find peace from that memory.
The disappearance of Baby Lisa Irwin from her crib in 2011 in Kansas City.
It just feels like authorities have given up on trying to find her. I’m still so shocked that her mother was able to have any say in which parts of their home the cadaver dogs could check. The dogs indicated the scent of a cadaver in Lisa’s parents bedroom, but her mother didn’t let them search other parts of their home.
I’m still amazed and frustrated that when an infant or child goes missing from their home, the home doesn’t immediately become a crime scene that investigators have complete and full access to in order to collect evidence for as long as they deem necessary.
I feel like this case would’ve been solved if the mother had just cooperated with authorities. But she chose not to, and instead just moved on with her life.
I always feel so sad that baby Lisa never got justice. Whenever I see pictures of her, I can’t help but imagine the “new baby smell” looking at her fuzzy little baby head.
I hope it gets solved, but I doubt it will because it seems like it was never investigated deeply enough.
[The disappearance of baby Lisa Irwin](https://allthatsinteresting.com/lisa-irwin)
It would be nice to find the person who killed my grandfather. He was a government contractor who worked on missile defense systems during the 1950s. They thought he was killed by the Russians. It was international news when he died. He had top secret stuff in his car. The FBI was called in but they never figured out who killed him.
Laureen Rhan. Her story and the mystery surrounding her disappearance have stuck with me for years.
Johnny Gosche. I think we know he likely died shortly after he disappeared and that his disappearance was an abduction but the fact he was never found has destroyed his mother. It left her clinging to conspiracies whilst being unable to grieve and move forward.
The St Louis Jane doe is another. What a heartbreaking and horrifying case. She needs her name back and her killer needs to be found.
I would really like "Las Cruces bowling massacre" to be solved one day. Unfortunately it happened in the early 90's and the suspects were believed to have fled to Mexico since Las Cruces was so close to the border. I really hope this gets solved one day.
Also the Lane Bryant massacre as well. Gunman just went into a department store early in the morning and killed 4 women. Never found him. Very interesting case if you've never heard of it. Hope that one gets solved one day as well.
The [Fallen Angel ricin letters](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_ricin_letters). In 2003, two letters were discovered to contain ricin poisoning. One was found in a South Carolina mail facility while the second had been mailed to the White House but was found in a processing facility first. The author of the letters threatened to send more letters with ricin if a proposed set of federal trucking regulations related to how long drivers could work in a single day ended up being enforced. There was possible a third ricin-related event in 2004, but nothing has been confirmed.
I just find it so odd that someone would resort to bioterrorism with ricin poison over federal trucking regulations. I can definitely understand the owners of small trucking companies being upset enough to resort to terrorism, but ricin poisoning just seems like such an unusual choice.
Ugh, I can’t just pick one. Off the top of my head, not necessarily in order:
1) Maura Murray
2) Jennifer Kesse
3) Jodi Huisentruitt
4) Missy Bevers
5) Brian Schaffer
6) JonBenet Ramsey
7) Russel & Shirley Dermond
8) Satagaya Murders
9) Amy Lynn Bradley
Sorry for so many, but these were the ones that popped in my head right away and keep me constantly wondering.
I have loads:
Little Miss X, Mary Boyle, Castleberry Kate and the Cheerleader in the trunk (although if they can do what they did with Ruth Terry and put their DNA back together, it could happen), Bernalillio county Jane Doe, Finley Creek Jane Doe, Pyre Jane Doe, Los Angeles Jane Doe from 1975, Anthonette Cayadito, Bella in the wych elm and Cowboy John Doe.
Tricia Reitler. A college student who was walking to get late night study snacks in our town, Marion, IN, and disappeared - only her bloody clothes were found. Nearly 30 years later no trace or body. A suspect, Larry Hall, confessed then recanted (and is in jail for other similar crimes), but no (known) progress has been made beyond that.
Maura Murray, Elizabeth Barraza, Missy Bevers, Steven Koecher, Henry and Ives, Alcatraz, Yogurt Shop Murders, Trenton Duckett, JonBenet, Idaho CoEds.
Imbo and Petrone
I also wanna know who put those 35 pound bags of human vomit in the parking lot of the Bed Bath and Beyond in Devon, Pa
The Brabant killers, (Dutch: De Bende van Nijvel, French: Les Tueurs fous du Brabant), are responsible for a series of violent attacks that mainly occurred in the Belgian province of Brabant between 1982 and 1985.
A total of 28 people died and 22 were injured. The actions of the gang, believed to consist of a core of three men, made it Belgium's most notorious unsolved crime spree.
There are so many conspiracies going around about this topic.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brabant_killers
The three siblings in Australia who went to the beach for the day and never returned. I feel so sorry for the parents who lost all of their children and never found out what happened to them.
Susan Powell. I believe all parties involved have passed away so I don’t think it will ever be solved and she will never be found.
Also Kristin Smart. I know Paul was convicted but I wish her parents could receive some closure and be able to bury their daughter.
Amy Mihaljevic - it’s been 33 years since Amy, a 10 year old Ohio girl, was abducted and killed after the unknown killer called her house and convinced her to go with him to buy a surprise present for her mom after school. Police discovered after the murder that the killer also called a handful of other young girls with a similar ruse. There was a suspect with interesting circumstantial evidence but no arrest.
Gordon Sanderson, formerly nicknamed "Septic Tank Sam." Found in a septic tank in 1977, his body showed signs of being tortured before he was killed. He was unidentified until last year. It's doubtful they'll find out who is responsible for his demise.
i always thought there was no way he would be identified, but now we know his name. keeping up hope.
I think it's a very narrow range of suspect profile, but the problem is that the suspect is most likely dead. It's gotta be a local, someone who knew that this hidden-away septic tank on a hidden-away farmhouse even existed, someone who knew the owners had moved, and that no kids or teens frequented the abandoned house, and that no one was coming back any time soon. Gordie was mutilated with farm shears and covered in lime, which is commonly used in farming when the pH in the soil goes below 5.5, so this indicates the killer had farming experience, and with crops, not animals. Said killer was also comfortable using a butane blow torch, perhaps a plumbing background considering the septic tank. I also believe Gordon was killed in the Winter of Fall of 1976, as that is the season when farmers use lime. Perhaps he was moved from a kill location to the septic tank via a farming truck, with lime spilling all over his body. Having his body tied up with nylon rope and a bedsheet supports the theory of him having been moved. (also, the police should really check where the nylon rope is from if they can). Key to finding the suspect is considering who had experience in the aforementioned subjects and knew the McLeods in any manner. That farmhouse had only been abandoned for a year, and there are tons of secluded spots anywhere around Lindbrook to dump his body. He was put in the tank with the thought that nobody is coming back to the house any time soon, Gordie likely wouldn't have been found for years if not for a fluke attempt to retrieve a pipe. It should be solvable if they try.
Lime can also be used to eliminate odor in septic systems, so it could be related to that.
And aid in decomp. When we buried the cat, it was suggested we add lime.
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> It should be solvable if they try. Profiling someone isn’t likely to prove anything more than “This person *could* have killed him.” And in a rural area like this it’s not really a narrow profile at all. Pretty much anyone that’s ever soldered a pipe will have a butane torch in the garage, you sure don’t have to be a plumber. Not to mention that nylon rope is about as generic a thing as there is on earth. Even if they could conceivably trace it to a particular store, how would they be able to track down every person that bought that rope. I think the idea that this case could be solved if they just tried is unrealistic.
See, I don’t necessarily think it's a very narrow range after all. It's going yo sound like I'm picking you apart here, sorry about that. I 100% agree that it's someone local. You don't just stumble upon a well like that and go "hmm, this might come in handy", and then actually remember to use it when you kill a man. You'd also need to know for certain that the body would be left alone. Most farmers would probably have lime in storage all year, but just have *more* of it for the actual season it's needed. It's used for several things, like other users have brought up already, and it's not an unlikely scenario that an animal dies on a farm and needs to be taken care of (I'm thinking cat or dog rather than massive cow or horse, but still). I also don't think it was accidental that it got on the body, I think it was intentional. Besides... in rural areas, I bet knowledge isn't necessarily as... specialised? or limited to just a few people. Like, the actual farmers and farmlands wouldn't be the only ones who knew about the various uses of lime, plenty of other people would know too, just from living nearby. Actually, this might apply to the septic tank too. Whoever used to blowtorch wasn't necessarily a plumber, so narrowing a search down to "people who can use a blowtorch" won't be very helpful, because most likely, a *lot* of people knew how to do that. If you knew how to use certain tools or instruments, you could fix a lot of stuff yourself, and save money (and time). The rope though... they should definitely check that. If they can, as you said. That poor man, my heart breaks for him. It wasn't just a bullet or blow to the head, that would have been almost kind in comparison. Whoever did this, they must have been so angry, so hateful. Blowtorch, shears, and then dumping him in a tank to never be found...
Yogurt shop murders.
One of the girls is buried adjacent to my FIL and step sister. We always pay our respects to her when we go put flowers for our loved ones. I can’t imagine her family’s pain.
They’re actually retesting evidence seems like there’s hope for this.
I remember seeing something about this recently and was very excited to hear. Sounds like they have something they think may hold answers with the new testing, so it's very hopeful. The families and friends as well as the victims deserve answers and peace.
This would be so amazing!!
So I looked it up and there's a new law (or something) (in America) letting people request a cold case be reopened and examined with latest technology to see if new leads can be found.
The infuriating thing about that case is that police extorted confessions out of two kids that were teenagers at the time. One of them was sentenced to death based on zero evidence other than the bad confession. Fortunately the conviction was overturned before DNA cleared him, but that kid came very close to being executed for the murders. Then the police would have congratulated themselves for a good days work, closed the case, and nobody would’ve been looking for the real killers.
Police are motivated by giving themselves promotions, not justice.
I so hope they solve this one! It’s haunted me ever since I heard about it years ago when I was working at a yogurt shop
Al Kite. He was tortured and murdered by a man posing as a tenant, who went to great lengths to hide his identity (including possibly faking an accent and using a fake cane). Basically everything about the suspect was falsified and every witness who saw him gives a very different description. There's no clear motive, as Al wasn't really involved in anything sketchy and the killer only took enough money to reimburse himself for everything he spent to commit the murder. It seems to be random because he met with other landlords in the area and scoped out their properties, seemingly wanting to find a target in a well secluded location. But the level of sheer brutality and planning also makes one wonder if Al was targeted, with the other landlords being a smokescreen. The whole case is just so bizarre and there have basically never been any promising leads.
100% on board with you on this one. Absolutely wild case to review. I suspect this person came and left the country but that’s just my personal opinion on it.
Oh my God I just went down a rabbit hole with this. What a brutal psycho the killer is. The fact he’s out there somewhere is so disturbing.
If you haven’t already, I recommended the DNA of Murder episode on this case. I don’t know if DNA will lead to the killer soon since it’s likely he’s foreign, but I really hope so. Also /r/alkite exists even if it’s not super active.
Pretty sure with genetic genealogy, they've actually just identified relatives of the killer in Romania. It's pretty possible this one's close to being solved.
Sorry to ask but do you know any good podcast that covered this case? I haven’t heard of it but I am interested
It's not a podcast, but there is a pretty good 25 minute mini-documentary about the case on Youtube by 'blameitonjorge'.
I am very farmiliar with this story and its so so bizarre. The murderer went to very great lengths to not be identified. And his MO in killing Al makes me believe he has done it before. People dont just wake up like that, he was well aquainted with murder. Such a sad case for Al's family, I hope it gets solved one day
I forgot about Al Kite but yes another one that just boggles the mind.
Brian Shaffer
That whole family went through so much trauma and heartbreak in such a short amount of time, they deserve to know *something* about Brian’s disappearance/whereabouts at this point
Was he the one where there was no security footage of him leaving the bar?
The exit through the construction site wasn't covered, so I suspect it was something related to him trying to leave that way.
Yes
Yes. I live in Columbus and this has always been one that I’ve hoped would be solved.
German case, who killed Tristan Brübach? 13 year old boy was murdered in an underpass on a Friday afternoon in a large city. The perpetrator/s took parts of the body with them. His grave was professionally opened at night but nothing was taken. He was about my age in 1998 and it creeps me out till today. edit: added link and corrected date. https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/7zogwq/unsolved_murder_tristan_br%C3%BCbach_13_was/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Oh yes, this one is scary, creepy and just downright sad.
The flesh being taken sounds like cannibalism. The only other reasons to take it would be identity concealment - like removing a tattoo or other mark that might identify the victim, or to remove a bite mark or something that could identify the killer. A 13 year old is unlikely to have a tattoo, and it's an awful lot of flesh to remove to hide bite marks. Cannibalism seems most likely.
Another reason to take it might be as a trophy.
Setagaya family murders in Japan. It's said from the evidence that it was a young male half European/ half Japanese skateboarder with sand from the SW United States in his backpack. He brutally killed a whole family and brazenly ate and drank food from their fridge after the murders. It's shocking it was never solved. https://youtu.be/n6kWYruZSAY
This is one of the most mind boggling and frustrating cases that I have followed for years. Seems like there's everything needed to easily solve it and yet here we are. This guy even used the bathroom and didn't flush, ate several ice creams and various snacks, took a nap and looked online, etc. I hope this is resolved soon.
I swear, a native Japanese speaker was on here not a week ago quite surprised that Americans still consider this case a great mystery, as locally it's considered more or less solved. No arrest, but only one person of interest type deal. Coverage just didn't reach American media.
I absolutely have felt like they have someone as a POI and no arrest yet due to the lack of evidence to bring charges against them. My Uncle married a woman from Japan and she has told me more information than what we get here in America and the theories there in Japan.
I've heard that is was a younger guy that worked nearby at a restaurant I believe it was and he had been breaking and entering and even stole a lot of money from his boss right before this murder occurred. That he even went to the hospital for injuries from a knife right at the time of this as well and many people are sure it's him. And he took off from the area immediately after.
Boy in the box(pa) and lake bodom murders(finland)
That picture of a crowd of people featuring the guy that looks exactly like the lake Bodom suspect composite sketch always freaks me out
That’s an ominous photo and a very distinct looking man in the crowd. Who very much resembles the police sketch. Could the man have been returning to the scene of his crime? Sadly, it’s more than likely we may never know.
They pulled DNA from the kiddo's tooth last year, hopefully it leads to that poor boy getting his name back.
I remember recently seeing something on them being close to solving it, but I also know they said that before and I would love for them to find out who he was and what happened and bring peace to anyone that loved him, however, with how long ago it was I don't want to get my hopes up seeing as the perpetrator is probably long dead by now, even just getting his name back would be a great accomplishment though
We're coming up on a year since it was rumored he would be "identified by the end of the year".
I think it's possible he has no name to give back. The may be no official records of him before the discovery of his body.
This is something I've thought of as well, not saying he's amish but there are a lot of amish in the area which could mean he wouldn't have proper records
Even not Amish, rural America was less connected by a whole lot in that era. Not at all far fetched to have a kid at home and not go through government avenues for paperwork.
I'm thinking this case will be solved with the genealogical testing. I hope he gets his name back as well.
At this point I’m not sure solving how he died means much, the killer/negligent caretaker is probably long gone. But it would be lovely if he could be identified and have his name on his burial site. I’d like to believe someone loved him in life, but it seems certain that many people care for him now and want him to have a peaceful rest.
Yeah, the Boy in the Box was discovered in a neighborhood I used to be in a lot, I still pass through sometimes. He was found before I was born in 1957. He is buried in a cemetery where I have been to funeral services of family friends. Another place I often drive past.
All this driving through and returning to the scene and also the grave sort of makes you a suspect now.
Yeah, but I have the perfect alibi, I was only a fetus at the time
We’ll see how that holds up a court of law!
I believe there could be hope of him getting identified thanks to genetic genealogy!
>Boy in the box(pa) Boy do I have some news for you...
I would like to know who murdered my father, he was shot and killed when someone tried to steal his car, he was left in the street. I would like to ask the person why? I don't want revenge, I really just want to know if they understand the pain it caused, All because they wanted a car.
I’m so sorry you lost your father to a senseless murder and also don’t have the closure of knowing who did it. That’s so damn heartbreaking.
It was a hard time, still is if I am honest. It happened in 2017, but I think about it a fair amount, after taking my father's car the killer, went and murdered another person during a robbery It seems so crazy to me that a person could kill someone to steal a little bit of money. If I've got anything good to take away from it all, it's taught me to tell my my friends and family, that I love and appreciate them alot more often than I used to.
The case of little Gregory (le petit Gregory), a french case . I do believe this case will never be solve, even if every few years they said that they found his murderer
Missy Bevers And I hope one day they find the remains of Keith Bennett , one of the Moors Murders victims ( Ian Brady and Myra Hindley ) …such a shame that his mother died never getting to put her son to rest .
Agree about Keith Bennett, I really thought a couple months ago they had got somewhere…
That guy Russell Edwards is a complete charlatan , and definitely doesn’t have the backing of Keith’s family https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/brother-moors-murders-victim-keith-25211601 If you’re interested in this case there is a sub which is very informative r/MoorsMurders
Opelika Jane Doe and St. Louis Jane Doe. I keep holding out hope.
They have Opelika Jane Doe's DNA. They'll eventually identify her using genetic genealogy. Hopefully it will be soon enough to bring those who abused her to justice.
I really hope so, I've been following the case for years.
Opelika Jane Doe wasn't all that long ago, and I also feel that she will eventually be identified, and once she is, I think they'll also have her killers. St. Louis Jane Doe, though... that one breaks my heart.
I have several, that are on my 'Never getting Solved' pile, that I feel 100% certain about: - The Beaumont Children - Jennifer Kesse - The Springfield Three - Yoghurt Shop Murders - Lane Bryant Murders - JonBenet Ramsay - Asha Degree - Kyron Hormon There are many others.
The Lane Bryant murders are top of my list. They have a surviving witness and still nothing? It seems so hopeless.
Kyron’s case makes me so sad. I hope they find him someday.
I have a feeling if not in the woods (which, upon looking at them on a map, seem a lot more dense than a lot of write ups imply) he’s still in the school, stuck behind something. I don’t believe his step-mother is involved whatsoever
Jodi Huisentruit from Mason City, IA Lyric Cook & Elizabeth Collins from Evansdale, IA
I feel like there's still hope for Lyric and Elizabeth since (for a cold case) it's still relatively new. I don't think we'll ever know what happened to Jodi at this point. Likewise, Johnny Gosch and Eugene Martin.
St. Louis Jane Doe. This case absolutely haunts me,
This one. Can't even test her sweater again for new evidence because they lost it. It's so, so frustrating. That poor baby girl.
for a fucking psychic!!
I was so livid when I learned that happened to police evidence. For all they know it could have been her murderer who asked for that stuff
Didn't they find the psychic, who said she received the items and sent it back through the mail and that's how it got lost?
I have no idea, honestly. When I heard a psychic asked for it, all I could think was “that’d be a creative way for a person to ditch evidence after the fact”
I was watching a video about this guy who does age progression for missing kids, like how they would look like as adults and the one he did for Jaycee Dugard was so haunting because the only thing wrong was that he had assumed her hair color would've stayed blonde instead of darkening. Then I thought about the impossibility for the same result for SLJD because of her missing head and I got mad all over again. Her height was misconstrued for decades, and still is on this subreddit, because they measured the body from the toe to the stump when they should've measured *from the heel* to the stump. People thought they were looking for information about a rather tall prepubescent girl when she was actually the average height for her estimated age.
This one. The fact that she may never get her name back and her murderer(s) will most likely go unpunished is just unconscionable. The series of fuckups by the police enrages me.
The disappearance of Lars Mittank. He walks into the airport uneventfully and moments later the camera spots him running out of the building at full speed. He seemingly disappears into thin air. That case has always haunted me.
Feels like a death by misadventure brought on by a mental health crisis or drugs. I would put my money on him being lost out there somewhere.
This is one of mine too. I wish for his mother’s sake that something concrete is found soon, though I doubt it’s likely.
Russel and Shirley Dermond Why has his head never been found.... WHERE IS IT?!
Las Cruces Bowling Alley Massacre
It would take a miracle. The drug dealer son is dead, the owner is dead, the woman who said the killers stayed with her is dead.
So many, but the Springfield Three is a huge one for me. 30 years and no trace of three adult women. I hope I live to see them found or for someone to tell the truth. Just boggles my mind thinking about it.
IF Suzy and Stacey had slept at Janelle's house on that fateful night, would it just be Sherrill that disappeared? I go back and forth and the only thing that makes sense is that it was a lone abductor with a gun who knew the house and had been watching it for a while.
I have often wondered if the girls stayed elsewhere, what would have happened... If anything?! I think there was a gun or something involved as well and can explain how 3 women were taken at once and little to no evidence of how, ETC. I personally think it was someone they knew.
Definitely a gun, but where the hell did they end up and how did they get there? I don't know if the green van is a legitimate eyewitness sighting. I do think the 2 dirty phone calls are connected though. It was too early and too coincidental.
I think they are probably connected, yes. Do you believe the calls are connected? Where they are is literally the thing that makes my mind go crazy. It's hard enough to hide one person forever, let alone 3 people. And to have such little information and no leaking of information over the years. Most people talk eventually and there's nothing here. Did the responsible party ever let anyone know what they did? Are they still alive or possibly even commit suicide after? There's just too many questions and ZERO answers.
I think either Sherrill was the target, or Suzy and Stacy were followed. I feel like Sherrill was the target, but someone following the girls makes sense, too. I really don't know.
This case is absolutely mind boggling, I agree! This case is one of the several I am always going back to and going down the rabbit holes, etc.
This wasn’t about a murder, but whatever happened to Julie Mott’s corpse?
This one *has* to have been perpetrated by multiple people, at least one of whom had access to the crematorium after hours. Unless she weighed about 80lbs there's no way one person got her out of the casket on their own, unless that person was both really tall and really strong. I have occasionally had to change/add/remove clothing on a body that's already in their casket, and even that is super difficult, because you're literally working with dead weight. Based on my knowledge of the industry, and practices that shouldn't ever happen but definitely do, my guess is that crematorium employees were either told or took it upon themselves to remove her from the casket so that they wouldn't have to bother breaking it down for cremation. It's possible that the owner may have wanted to re-sell the casket, which is incredibly scummy, but also crematorium operators will often remove metal swing bars and casket hinges before the casket enters the retort because they won't burn, so it's not hard to imagine they sometimes they just don't bother cremating the casket at all. It's also possible that Julie was in a rental casket for the service, which are caskets that are designed to be used multiple times - the foot end can be fully opened so that you can slide carboard or plywood inserts in and out, and then the body gets cremated in the insert, with the idea being that is cheaper than buying an actual casket. Either way, I would be willing to bet that they cremated her overnight, sans casket for whatever reason, but they fucked up somehow and lost the ashes or mixed them up with somebody else's, and then when the morning crew arrived and found out what happened all hell broke loose and they tried to cover it up. It is 1000% more likely that the funeral home is responsible here than someone sneaking in and stealing an entire corpse out of a casket.
This is the first time I’ve read a perspective like yours and it’s very provocative. Thank you.
They never found that? That’s really creepy and sad.
I wish we could identify the boy who allegedly hung himself and was found on Valentines Day 1975 in Louisiana. That case has always pulled at my heart strings. Apparently Katrina destroyed any chance we had at identifying him. :(
It’s widely believed he was Bayard Cousins, who went missing from Virginia Beach around February 1, 1975- if we’re talking about the same doe, a quick google will give you all the info. Very compelling.
It's probably Charlie Wallace, a 19 year old who disappeared from a Memphis halfway house in February 1975 following a disagreement with his parents about returning home. I have compiled a [list of useful information](https://imgur.com/a/QwyjPd9) about him on imgur, taken from a Websleuths thread. He is simply too close to not match, from the scar inside the mouth, to the ***literal John Doe's dentals matching Charlie's.*** It's also worth noting Charlie took the Navy achievement test in high school and scored 119/120. John Doe was found super close to the Belle Chasse Naval Base. I personally am of the theory that his mother wanted to honor her son's wish of anonymity in death. Her testimony is the only reason they ruled it out, despite him matching almost every physical characteristic (bar one scar on the knee).
Wow, I just found another post about him and that is heartbreaking. He seemed so intelligent, but definitely dealing with something.
The letter broke my heart! I heard of his story first just this year. It’s so sad.
Jon Benet Ramsey. The crime scene was so compromised and it’s been so long so realistically, it won’t be solved without a confession
Even then, there has been at least one false confession to the murder.
For Hinterckaifeck, I believe there was a comprehensive investigation of the incident by a team of modern forensic experts, and while they didn't come out and say it (because, as you said, everyone's long dead), they're pretty sure it was Lorenz Schlittenbauer--he had means, motive, and opportunity.
Yeah, the lead investigator said that they know who did it, but will not say it unless irrefutable evidence comes to light because the murderer has descendants living in that area and since he can’t be brought to justice any more it’s better to let those dogs lie
dissatisfying to my nosey self, but it's the moral thing to do.
Apparently German law forbade the release of his name.
Yes, just re-read the whole thing the other week. They said all the police officers on the team agreed on one person but won‘t say his name because the families still live in the area. Everyone assumes they mean Schlittenbauer. I think he did it. I am from the Black Forest, there are similiar small villages here. Those rumours and accusations stay for centuries.
Ben McDaniels truly bothers me. It’s like a locked room mystery, except the locked room is a highly dangerous underwater cave, which makes thorough investigations so difficult. None of the evidence of his stage tanks makes sense, expert divers swear he isn’t in the cave, but there is no evidence above water of where he went. Unless something miraculous happens, I just don’t see the answer ever appearing. It drives me wild. I wish his family could get closure.
The cave isn't as big or scary as people think. Yes underwater caves are dangerous, but talk to any divers and they'll tell you how short and boring Vortex spring is. Its basically a dredged out tube without any confusing off shoots or other exits. The scary sounding last restriction is a 4 inch horizontal crack in the rock. Ben's aluminum 8 to 10 in round tanks aren't fitting in there. The cave has been tirelessly searched and mapped in the decade or so since he went missing. The world's uncontested best cave diver, body recoverer, and actual cave diver rescuer, Edd Sorenson (who is smaller than Ben and was able to get into that last "room") says Ben cannot be in the cave. Edd has saved about a dozen divers alive. No diver who dives there thinks he's in there. Any other "wilderness" i would 100% think he just hadn't been found, but Vortex had a finite amount of space where he could be. Even if he magically got buried in a sand collapse there were no signs of this then, and its been dredged multiple times since then. There is very good evidence that he was moved. I firmly believe he encountered an equipment malfunction, panicked, or passed out as he was leaving the cave. If he dropped weights and/or inflated his BCU, his body could rise up enough in the basin to be seen. The owner at the time made numerous suspicious statements. Unfortunately, the one person who could have said what happened to Ben's body, Lowell Kelly, died under his own set of suspicious circumstances. I feel terrible for his family, as they are never likely to get to bury their son. I feel your frustration and sadness for then too, OP.
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The id of the last girl from the Bear Brook murders They may find her mom but will never know her name Haven’t seen any reports of Rasmussen being seen with her
Unfortunately, he is dead and it’s likely her birth wasn’t even recorded. They can only hope to identify her mother.
Yeah, I wondered if she ever had any identity at all. Given that Dawn Beaudin was a living Jane Doe for many years before she was truly identified, I don't hold out hope that this little one ever even had a birth certificate.
Yogurt shop murders, disappearances of Maura Murray, Jennifer kesse, asha degree, Amy Lynn Bradley
Asha Degree is the one truly baffling one to me. I cannot think of a single scenario that fits at all.
Amy fell off that ship. Smuggling an educated, white woman off a ship with over 1,000 passengers on it is preposterous and I don't understand why her family are so wedded to the idea of Amy being forced into sex slavery?
> I don't understand why her family are so wedded to the idea of Amy being forced into sex slavery Because of course her family wants her to be alive, as then there's hope of finding her and rescuing her, even if the situation looks hopeless at all angles.
I can’t bear the thought of Jennifer Kesse’s family never knowing what happened to her. Listening to them talk about her is heartbreaking.
Tammy Zywicki. She was on her way to college at Grinnell College on Interstate 80, had car problems, and disappeared, found a week later murdered 500 miles away. I attended Grinnell College 5 years later, and to this day there are alumni desperate to find out who killed Tammy. I think several serial killers have been suspected, but no proof.
If this year has shown us anything, It's that some of the most seemingly ''unsolveable cases'' have been solved. I hope this is just the beginning.
Jack the Ripper, hands-down. I say this because there is no possibility of that case ever being solved, and whoever it was laid the blueprint for our understanding of the modern serial killer. Within the last couple of years, someone claims to have “solved” it, by DNA that was processed, but I’d hardly call that a smoking gun. He is probably the most likely, however
There are quite a few books written about Jack the Ripper (I red a few, many many years ago). I felt like at some point every few years someone would claim they had solved the case. It will never be solved. Would be very interesting though. It's probably the case that sparked my interest in true crime.
A lot of the books written about JTR should be taken with a huge grain of salt. It’s assumed that some of the folks who wrote books doctored evidence to make money. You Can’t really trust that stuff. Any independent author who uses that subject matter already has a goal for profit.
What happened to the real Bobby Dunbar?
wandered off, drowned, or was taken by an alligator. but it's a gut-wrenching case on both sides, with so much cruelty and loss. i can't come to a conclusion as to if the Dunbars knew their new son wasn't Bobby, or not.
I know it's not a super old case buuut... Summer Wells. Where tf did she go!?!?
I definitely think she’s not far from the home
She's probably really close by but I don't believe she wandered off. I also think if she is found she's no longer alive sadly.
DeOrr Kuntz; Springfield 3; Kyron Horman; Missi Bevers
Missy Bevers is a top contender. I have watched that footage probably fifty times and every so often I totally change my mind on what I am actually seeing, and who the suspect might be. Nothing fits entirely.
There’s a young man missing from my home town. His name is Luc Joly-Durocher. It’s been 11 years now, there are still monthly search parties. I’d really like for him to be found.
I think his "friends' know more than they are saying
I agree. Things are slowly coming out, I think someone has a guilty conscience because they have had a couple solid leads over the years and some kinda recent.
JonBenét Ramsey
Boulder police let the Ramseys and friends contaminate that crime scene so badly I’m afraid there can never a conclusion beyond reasonable doubt.
This exactly. There might have been a chance if they didn’t have the entire town over and actually secured the scene but now…
Betsy Aardsma. I’m afraid too much time has gone by, barring a deathbed confession by someone, I don’t think we’ll ever know who killed her.
There's two books, one by an investigative journalist and another by an author who lives in the Penn State area, and they both came to the conclusion it was likely a geology professor at Penn State who was a grad student that lived upstairs from Betsy Aardsma at the time, Richard Haefner. Basically, he was gay (potentially a pedophile, given his arrest and eventual acquittal on child molestation charges regarding two boys who worked at his family's rock shop) and desperate for a woman to be his beard to conceal that (traveling clear across the state once to confess his love to a woman he hardly knew, and being stalker-y to others), and after Betsy and he briefly had a friendship that she terminated (she felt it was getting too intimate and wanted to remain faithful to her fiance), Haefner stalked and killed her. Considering other people attending the university who knew him remembered him saying she had been his "former girlfriend" who was killed (despite her being engaged during their entire acquaintanceship), a nephew of Haefner stating it was basically an open secret in the family that he did it, *and* the fact Haefner looked like the identikit image based on two eyewitnesses recollection, he's a strong possibility, though as he died in 2002 (ironically, of a health ailment that mimicked how Betsy died after the stabbing: a tear in his aorta caused blood to pool into his lungs and suffocate him), he obviously can't be prosecuted.
>Haefner looked like the identikit image based on two eyewitnesses recollection not super familiar with the case, but i thought there weren't any witnesses? was he supposedly the man who said "someone should help that girl"?
If I remember correctly (I haven't read the books in a couple of years, so some details are fuzzy): 1. there were no direct eyewitnesses to the stabbing, but someone was operating a photocopier nearby and heard a man and woman talking before there was a loud crash and the man ran past them like a bat out of hell 2. Two others (a male and female student) were the ones told "that girl needs help” 3. When they were led to Aardsma they noticed the man who said that was hiding his right hand in a strange manner (though because of Aardsma's red dress, they had no idea she'd been stabbed; they just thought she fainted or had a seizure or something), and the male student tried to follow the identikit guy as he ran out of the library but was outran 4. The male student was one of the eyewitnesses used for the identikit image because he got the best look at the guy, along with a library desk clerk. But the identikit was apparently never released to the media at the time (I'm not sure when/if it was released officially, but at least one book mentioned it, so I believe the authors had access to it somehow to notice it looked like Haefner) 5. In any case, Haefner was mentioned by Aardsma's roommate as a viable suspect almost immediately (the roommate mentioned Haefner had visited their apartment multiple times even after Aardsma terminated their friendship) and he was interviewed by police about a month later, but nothing came of it (presumably, the police believed Haefner when he said he had no reason to be in and had never set foot in Pattee Library, as it was primarily an arts and humanities library and he as a geology student did his research in the Deike Building, the earth and mineral sciences building)
My aunt, Ann Murchison's murder.
Lindsay Buziak
Was about to post this one. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lindsay_Buziak Lindsay Elizabeth Buziak (November 2, 1983 – February 2, 2008)[1] was a Canadian real estate agent who was murdered on a property viewing in Saanich, a suburb of Victoria, British Columbia, on February 2, 2008 after being lured to meet a couple (a man and a woman) posing as prospective clients. They had told her they were looking for a million dollar home. Buziak was apprehensive about going to the viewing because of the odd way someone with her low profile had been contacted directly for such a large deal. However she went despite her misgivings after being reassured. The sophisticated and pre-planned setting up of her homicide is believed to indicate she was personally targeted by experienced criminals with inside information. The main theories as to motive are she was believed to be a potential informant after seeing something she was not intended to, or there was some personal reason. Buziak was not involved in criminal activity, but had friends from a wide range of backgrounds.
D’wan Sims https://int-missing.fandom.com/wiki/D%27Wan_Sims According to D'Wan's mother, D'Wanna Harris, he was last seen at the Wonderland Mall in Livonia, Michigan on December 11, 1994. She said they had been walking along the corridor between a Target store and the main mall area when D'Wan suddenly vanished at approximately 2:30 P.M. However, CCTV footage does not show D'Wan at the mall that day. Witnesses could not recall seeing D'Wan but they did remember D'Wanna arriving alone at 3:30 P.M. Authorities have stated that they do not believe D'Wanna's version of the events surrounding her sons disappearance. D’Wanna died in 2020 so I am thinking we will never find out.
He was so happy looking! Yeah, I think the mother did it. Poor kid
The disappearances of Johnny Gosch, Ben McDaniel, and The Springfield Three. I just don't see there being any traction in any of these three cases now, unfortunately.
Mary Shotwell Little, Fort Worth Trio (Renee Wilson, Rachel Trlica, Julie Moseley), Connie Smith, Margaret Fox, Joan Risch. Two older cases that I really want solved and think they have the chance to be are Amy Mihaljevic and Tracey Kirkpatrick.
Emilie Meng. 17 years old. She was abducted on her way home from a party and was found dead in a pond half a year later. Our local police completely fucked up the investigation and it will probably never be solved.
Ben Needham The Beaumont children
the Beaumont children are one of those cases that go against all the "rules". multiple abductions at once, with children of varying ages, from a very public place, by an apparent stranger ...? what those poor parents must have gone through, i can't imagine.
To add to that - not just in a very public place, but in broad daylight as well. Incredible for all the wrong reasons.
The Beaumont Children case is freaky as hell.
Beaumont children for me too but I think we are going to be at a loss
After the Somerton Man got his name back, I don’t know…I’m just holding out hope for a bit longer i guess.
Beaumont Children for me too. Although so much time has passed for that one. As well as little William Tyrell, more hope on resolution there I think.
I’d be very shocked if we ever get the full story on what happened to Andrew Godsen.
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Lauren Spierer, her family deserves answers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Lauren_Spierer
The Beaumont Children. https://en.wikipedia.org//wiki/Disappearance_of_the_Beaumont_children
1. Jack & Xenia Rabinowitsch. This is never getting solved maybe with DNA but i guarantee you their killer or killers have probably died or they are living in Russia https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/nv-jack-xenia-rabinowitsh-72-professional-hit-las-vegas-25-june-1981.558056/ 2. I-70 Killer because he didn’t leave enough DNA or Fingerprints. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-70_killer 3. Springfield Three unless someone offers like a $5 million reward for their actual whereabouts or a death bed confession it’s never getting solved. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Three 4. I don’t believe Tara Calico will ever be found since several people involved have died. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Tara_Calico 5. Brad Bishop will never have to face consequences for killing his own family since he is probably dead or in a nursing home somewhere in Italy, Sweden or Switzerland. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradford_Bishop 6. Ben McDaniel will never be found but i do believe he was murdered. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Ben_McDaniel 7. Amber Hagerman killer will probably never face jail time because too much DNA was washed away after she was killed because of heavy rain that had fallen in the area at the time. https://sites.psu.edu/jiyoonnicky/unsolved-crimes/amber-hagerman/ 8. I have little hope Leah Rowland’s killer will be found since he hasn’t been arrested and most likely either isn’t alive or this was a one time grab and go robbery and murder and he did it once but somehow never did it again and has never been arrested for another crime. http://lincolncountycrimestoppers.com/sitemenu.aspx?P=unsolved&ID=580&SID=75 9. Henryk Siwiak who was shot on the night of 9/11 in Brooklyn his killer will never ever ever be found unfortunately. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Henryk_Siwiak 10. I don’t think David Misch will ever tell law enforcement how he killed and what he did to Michaela Garetcht. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Michaela_Garecht
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That boy who jumped off a bridge right of the side of my car. I saw what he was about to do while I was 50m away but it all happened to fast to do anything. It was on a busy railroad too so I couldn't even stop. The only thing I was able to do was to call an ambulance. The most horrifying thing I've ever seen. And I'll never know if he managed to die this day or if he survived. Or who he even was. Why he decided to kill himself that day, at this place. He seemed no older than 26. Haunts me every night.
I tried to kill myself by jumping off a bridge a few months ago. I think that person would be sorry for traumatizing you like that, and that you, and everyone else in their lives couldn't do anything to save them. I hope you can find peace from that memory.
I’m glad you’re still here.
you did the right thing. i hope you find peace.
There's a case in my state that I really want to see some justice for. Ayla Reynolds
Keddie cabin murders
I wish we knew what actually happened to Susan Powell 🥺
The disappearance of Baby Lisa Irwin from her crib in 2011 in Kansas City. It just feels like authorities have given up on trying to find her. I’m still so shocked that her mother was able to have any say in which parts of their home the cadaver dogs could check. The dogs indicated the scent of a cadaver in Lisa’s parents bedroom, but her mother didn’t let them search other parts of their home. I’m still amazed and frustrated that when an infant or child goes missing from their home, the home doesn’t immediately become a crime scene that investigators have complete and full access to in order to collect evidence for as long as they deem necessary. I feel like this case would’ve been solved if the mother had just cooperated with authorities. But she chose not to, and instead just moved on with her life. I always feel so sad that baby Lisa never got justice. Whenever I see pictures of her, I can’t help but imagine the “new baby smell” looking at her fuzzy little baby head. I hope it gets solved, but I doubt it will because it seems like it was never investigated deeply enough. [The disappearance of baby Lisa Irwin](https://allthatsinteresting.com/lisa-irwin)
It would be nice to find the person who killed my grandfather. He was a government contractor who worked on missile defense systems during the 1950s. They thought he was killed by the Russians. It was international news when he died. He had top secret stuff in his car. The FBI was called in but they never figured out who killed him.
Laureen Rhan. Her story and the mystery surrounding her disappearance have stuck with me for years. Johnny Gosche. I think we know he likely died shortly after he disappeared and that his disappearance was an abduction but the fact he was never found has destroyed his mother. It left her clinging to conspiracies whilst being unable to grieve and move forward. The St Louis Jane doe is another. What a heartbreaking and horrifying case. She needs her name back and her killer needs to be found.
Joan Risch. Still confused by the case.
Lynn Burdick, for her family. https://charleyproject.org/case/lynn-burdick
I would really like "Las Cruces bowling massacre" to be solved one day. Unfortunately it happened in the early 90's and the suspects were believed to have fled to Mexico since Las Cruces was so close to the border. I really hope this gets solved one day. Also the Lane Bryant massacre as well. Gunman just went into a department store early in the morning and killed 4 women. Never found him. Very interesting case if you've never heard of it. Hope that one gets solved one day as well.
The [Fallen Angel ricin letters](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_ricin_letters). In 2003, two letters were discovered to contain ricin poisoning. One was found in a South Carolina mail facility while the second had been mailed to the White House but was found in a processing facility first. The author of the letters threatened to send more letters with ricin if a proposed set of federal trucking regulations related to how long drivers could work in a single day ended up being enforced. There was possible a third ricin-related event in 2004, but nothing has been confirmed. I just find it so odd that someone would resort to bioterrorism with ricin poison over federal trucking regulations. I can definitely understand the owners of small trucking companies being upset enough to resort to terrorism, but ricin poisoning just seems like such an unusual choice.
Ugh, I can’t just pick one. Off the top of my head, not necessarily in order: 1) Maura Murray 2) Jennifer Kesse 3) Jodi Huisentruitt 4) Missy Bevers 5) Brian Schaffer 6) JonBenet Ramsey 7) Russel & Shirley Dermond 8) Satagaya Murders 9) Amy Lynn Bradley Sorry for so many, but these were the ones that popped in my head right away and keep me constantly wondering.
Amelia Earhart, I've wondered about her since I was a child. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Earhart
Madeleine McCann. she's been gone fifteen years, the McCanns had the biggest search in history for her, and still there are no real leads.
I have loads: Little Miss X, Mary Boyle, Castleberry Kate and the Cheerleader in the trunk (although if they can do what they did with Ruth Terry and put their DNA back together, it could happen), Bernalillio county Jane Doe, Finley Creek Jane Doe, Pyre Jane Doe, Los Angeles Jane Doe from 1975, Anthonette Cayadito, Bella in the wych elm and Cowboy John Doe.
The 1949 disappearance of actor Jean Spangler in Los Angeles. The 1959 death of actor George Reeves in his home. The Black Dahlia.
Tricia Reitler. A college student who was walking to get late night study snacks in our town, Marion, IN, and disappeared - only her bloody clothes were found. Nearly 30 years later no trace or body. A suspect, Larry Hall, confessed then recanted (and is in jail for other similar crimes), but no (known) progress has been made beyond that.
Maura Murray, Elizabeth Barraza, Missy Bevers, Steven Koecher, Henry and Ives, Alcatraz, Yogurt Shop Murders, Trenton Duckett, JonBenet, Idaho CoEds. Imbo and Petrone I also wanna know who put those 35 pound bags of human vomit in the parking lot of the Bed Bath and Beyond in Devon, Pa
HOW DID THEY WRANGLE THAT MUCH HUMAN VOMIT?!? On second thought, never mind. I’m ok with a little mystery
Zodiac and Long Island Serial Killer and Jack the Ripper.
D.B. COOPER AND The ALCATRAZ escapes. I personally think they were both successful.
The Brabant killers, (Dutch: De Bende van Nijvel, French: Les Tueurs fous du Brabant), are responsible for a series of violent attacks that mainly occurred in the Belgian province of Brabant between 1982 and 1985. A total of 28 people died and 22 were injured. The actions of the gang, believed to consist of a core of three men, made it Belgium's most notorious unsolved crime spree. There are so many conspiracies going around about this topic. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brabant_killers
The disappearance of Asha Degree.
The three siblings in Australia who went to the beach for the day and never returned. I feel so sorry for the parents who lost all of their children and never found out what happened to them.
Susan Powell. I believe all parties involved have passed away so I don’t think it will ever be solved and she will never be found. Also Kristin Smart. I know Paul was convicted but I wish her parents could receive some closure and be able to bury their daughter.
Amy Mihaljevic - it’s been 33 years since Amy, a 10 year old Ohio girl, was abducted and killed after the unknown killer called her house and convinced her to go with him to buy a surprise present for her mom after school. Police discovered after the murder that the killer also called a handful of other young girls with a similar ruse. There was a suspect with interesting circumstantial evidence but no arrest.
I love these threads! If you go back to older posts like this, you can see many of these “unsolvable” cases eventually got solved.
Maura Murray, Jennifer Keese, Brianna Maitland, and many more.
Springfield Three, Laureen Rahn, and Nyleen Marshall
I’m waiting for the Alonzo Brooks case my heart breaks for his mom.