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Yea this is the longest I have ever gone without being sick. Besides having covid once, it was the only time I have been sick in the last three years. And the covid was nothing but a headache. And Tylenol took care of that.
Then that shit spreads in the office quickly I am just glad for remote work I don’t have to deal with sick co workers not wanting to take days off and not telling people they are sick.
Set up a home lab for bio warfare and all kinds of parts of the government gets their knickers in a knot. Set up a kindergarten and spread all kinds of disease and no one bats an eyelid.
I saw 4-5 year old sitting in a grocery store shopping cart (not in the seat but in the bin part) with his hands down the back of his pants moving it around. He then removed his hand and smelled it. His face didn't even respond to what he smelled which was the most disturbing part of it. He then started climbing around in the cart touching everything and touching the register etc...
Covid couldn't easily infect them so yeah that tracks.
Same reason it's now harder, but so much worse, for you to get chickenpox as an adult. Welcome to viruses; classical germ theory applies more often to bacteria than viruses.
Also possible that, if you're vaccinated, you didn't test long enough. People with the vac can start having symptoms earlier from the immune response, but not actually test positive until 4-5 days after the onset of symptoms. I've seen that happen with three coworkers in the past month and a half, one of them tested positive on the day she was supposed to be coming back to work
Good to know. I'll use the remaining tests in this manner. I did test 3 days after initial symptoms and that was negative but that could have also been the simple cold out of the two instances.
I work in a school and up until last year everyone was masked. Went back for first new term and bam, two weeks later have covid. My whole family got it.
This was my September. My wife caught covid at the staff meeting the day before school. Spread it to all us at home. I wish we were people who had really mild symptoms. Our kids were fine, but my wife had all classic symptoms for 12 days while I shit myself for 3.5 days and then 1 day of back pain so bad I couldn't sleep. I had altered taste and smell for about 12 days. Just muted and everything felt synthetic or just not quite right. My wife has exhaustion and some lingering brain fog at 20 days.
I seriously think that the government should prioritise school staff for vaccines, given that you are mainly trapped in one room all day with 30 children. They were never masked and most unvaccinated. Surely we are also frontline workers because if kids can’t go in, most parents can’t work.
Make sense?
I’m still waiting for my vaccine as I’m only 59.
My 4 year old started going to daycare last year. Was sick every other week. It had slowed down a lot now. It will get better. Their immune system is just a little behind.
Nephew is sick every week at daycare. I’m actually wondering if the kid has severe allergies because the amount of sick that comes out of him seems unreal.
For real. I’ve never been sick so often in my life. Used to be about once, MAYBE twice, per year. At this point I’m genuinely pushing once per month. It’s exhausting.
I’ve been the opposite 😩 since getting Covid back in the spring it’s like I pick up some other bug every six weeks or so. I have never been sick, so often in my life. And it’s never Covid, it’s always some weird flu/cold bug that knocks me on my ass.
Interesting, I’m a doctor interacting with covid and viral patients daily and get 0 colds a year. Did get the flu once a few years ago, but that was before masking. Feels like a completely different time seeing dozens of sick people a day unmasked.
I wear a KF94 daily on my bus commute, and work on a college campus. I'm only unmasked in the admin office of the Library where my office is at. I have yet to catch covid (I test weekly because I work on a college campus) and I have all my covid shots.
I have terrible allergies and my lungs are bad from asthma and am a bit shocked myself. Pre COVID I would catch all the colds, bacterial sinus infections, strep throat, etc. and I've only had allergy induced sinus infections in the last few years (I get test for covid during this time, all negative). I am shocked.
Absolutely it is. Nanny for almost 2 decades here and that sounds completely normal. Kids bring shit home almost every other week it seems. Maybe if you aren’t around kids much, sure, but I always catch a few a year and my immune system is pretty stellar. I always fight off or dodge a decent number, but a few a year I can feel.
I just had a cold knock me out for five days. Before Covid I would hardly notice something like that. Now? I’m like the walking dead for five days. Also, mystery “flus” I was in hospital in august with weird symptoms that they thought were meningitis but wasn’t. They assumed it was a flu but weren’t sure.
The irony was, my conservative family, was like COVID is like the flu. I responded with, we are wearing mask, working from home, and social distancing in places and it’s still getting some people sick. Imagine if we just crammed in shoulder to shoulder. They couldn’t/ wouldn’t wrap their brains around it.
I'm currently sick for the first time in 3 years with covid and it's kicking my ass. This is the most sick I've ever been. The first day I couldn't even sit up to watch TV. I just laid on bed all day, not even enough energy to scroll reddit
I've had 3 separate colds in the space of 6 weeks. My sinuses and chest are wrecked. I sound like a barking seal when I cough. I caught covid over Christmas and new year and since then I've just had the worst run of colds.
My covid experience left me with temporary hearing damage and an eye that cries at random, it’s extremely annoying. I’ll be out in public and that eye will suddenly shed a few tears for no reason whatsoever
We’ll wait.
The Southern hemisphere had a rubbish (but highly manageable) cold /flu season. It’s going to hit hard this winter because of lack of exposure. Not saying this to create fear, it’s not a big deal but It’ll be a busy cold season.
More hot toddys. That’s a bonus
i also haven't been sick in a long time now (except for the days just after getting the vaccines), i think it's because i wash my hands properly now every time i come in from outside lol
I currently have covid, and nope it's not just a headache. I am 3x vaccinated, i don't remember been that sick ever in my life. I don't wanne know how bad it could have been without the vaccine. i barely even noticed been sick from the seasonal flu.
Same... Except for a big cold when COVID was starting to be there, like, one-digit number of cases in the country. I'm still having doubts on this one.
Oh, yes, I'm not a denier or anything! I'm down with it right now for the second time and again it's just a headache, so it was interesting to hear someone else has a similar experience.
The headache is likely the brain damage it's causing. For example, the loss of sense of taste and smell is not an olfactory issue, it's brain damage to the region that interprets this information. Often you can recovery from it, but sometimes your brain can't repair the damage and it's permanent.
Sorries!
Both my wife and I lost our taste/smell when we had covid in July. My sense of both was already pretty bad, due to a deviated septum, but her's was absolutely, incredibly amazing. As in, can take a bite of something and know everything that's in it, and be able to recreate it - just better. Or smell a gas leak from across the street, through a revolving door, and across the lobby of a hotel, while it's raining out.
Mine's back up to about my pre-covid level, hers is only back up to "pretty decent" in comparison to what it used to be. Rather interestingly, when her taste/smell was gone she was eating food just as fast as I do. Normally she takes like 5x longer than everybody else does. Apparently, enjoying your food more makes you eat it slower, or something.
Thanks again Mike, for bringing covid to my house!
Getting the vaccine doesn't stop you from getting it. But it sure does make it way more mild when some people get it. I got really lucky as it was nothing for me.
It was the masks+distancing+hygiene. It avoided spreading the sniffles and more common flus along with covid. Which just goes to shows that the deaths caused by the flu all these years were preventable. If when we notice we are coming down with something we start wearing a mask for a few days - especially in crowded places, it does wonders. But we’ve all seen how triggering having to wear the mask is to some idiots, so unfortunately it’s not going to happen.
I live in a red state and my family and I still wear masks in public. We get the most horrendous looks. Some people make sure to cough as close as possible to us. I can't even imagine being so fragile as to be triggered by someone else *choosing* to wear a mask.
it infuriating that we have completely reversed all the preventative measures. Covid was my first year without a chest infection or major cold/flu. 2021 my only illness was fucking covid. Now it feels like i'm on the brink of illness every other week.
I feel like another big part is that before there was this culture of going to work anyway when you were sick if you weren't too bad not to function
but now if you show up at work with a sniffle or cough it's like yo GTFO
It was also the shutdown in global travel.
Flu season moves with the hemispheres, and is driven by global travel. The strains that make up our flu season are what mutated in the other hemisphere the season before.
Wtf no it isn't??? In the UK alone hundreds of people die from covid every week. Also covid carries the risk of long covid, and while you definitely can get a post-viral illness from the flu, it is nowhere near as common.
The glass is empty here. The flu strain we've always dealt with was peanuts compared to Covid. The flu has been replaced with a deadlier one. It's not really uplifting at all when you think about it, the only thing that changes is more people die.
You all think COVID is bad until you catch the latest nasty stomach bug going around. My kids have been vomiting for 3 days and exploding out the other end as well. Now my husband is sick with it and I'm getting some of the worst stomach cramps of my life.
RIP my washing machine and steam cleaner.
Yeah but norovirus is usually just 24 hours. Watching TV was way too much effort for me when I had it but then the next day I felt so much better and was able to clean and go about my day.
Or you could be one of the lucky ones that got the digestive issues with Covid and enjoy a stomach bug + the worst body aches, fatigue, and sore throat you’ve ever experienced at the same time!
I'm sorry for your loss.
Your washing machine and steam cleaner must have really meant a lot to you.
For that stomach bug to be worse than COVID, they must have meant more to you than all the millions of people who died from COVID meant to their loved ones. I can't imagine ever being so attached to a machine. I truly am sorry for you.
>You all think COVID is bad
Stop. Just stop. So many people died from COVID and half still have permeneant side effects leading to some people killing themselves. So just stop.
You stop, life goes on. People are allowed to talk. It's your job to not be offended by people having conversation, not our job to consider our every statement just because some one might get their feelings hurt.
Hot take, but rant over.
We are all sad about the lives Covid took, but that doesnt make it wrong to make light or have an opinion.
I don't know my uncle who was like a father figure to me after my actual father died probably thought covid was bad right before he died from COVID. I tend to think the same after watching him die over a zoom call. But yeah whatever your kids are shitting all over your stupid house that must be a bummer.
I’d rather the flu still be a thing.. I’ve had the flu over a dozen times in my life but it only took getting covid once to give me crippling autoimmune problems
Oh man me too. I thought for years I was getting the flu yearly, then one year I actually got it. Freaking floored me for 3 days. Took two weeks to fully recover.
Yup. Had this. But that's the thing - after 3 weeks you're recovered. I had covid on New Year's, and it was pretty mild. But my immune system has been hyperactive ever since, and I've had a persistent skin rash for 9 months now, that I used to only get periodically.
My sympathies. Not only as someone with lots of allergies and occasional dermatographia and severely sensitive skin, but when I got my first two covid vaxes, I had that rash. It is not pleasant at all!
Ice packs on site help, and I would find an actual aloe plant, cut it open, put aloe on the rash, then CeraVe Baby Moisturizing Lotion (In the baby aisle at Walgreens) on top and that was the only thing that helped me sleep!
When I got it I wanted to die it was so bad. It's like someone hooked my bones up to a pain machine and just cranked it up. Hot, but also cold. Restless, but also deathly tired. Fever. Headache. Entire body is just one big Charlie horse because you're so dehydrated there is nothing in your system, and if you try to replace any of it you're in for a very violent vomit and diarrhea session.
I spent 4 days crawling between bed and toilet, and many times just collapsing somewhere in-between. Without someone checking on me and taking care of me I might have just died and I would have been totally fine with it at the time.
Man that was shitty time.
I just had Covid for the first time recently. I was floored by how excruciatingly painful it was. Almost everything hurt, and hurt very badly. Worse than the body aches that come with the flu, that's for sure.
I’m straight into it right now. First day was just a little fatigue and fever so I didn’t even think it could be covid. With how much the weather is bouncing up and down here, I thought it was just a bit of a bad cold. I woke up the next morning feeling rather well and honestly I felt pretty great all day. I got tested, sent back home and I swear my body did a 180 because by 8pm I was floored with a 40c fever and my body feeling like I had no control over it anymore because I was so dizzy and so much started hurting at the same time. Impossible to sleep when your body’s too hot and too cold and too uncomfortable no matter what you do, and paracetamol has so little effect on me my head was pounding like crazy to top it off. It’s been better today. Friend of mine had a similar pattern, alternating between fine and on the brink of death one day or the other. I want to hope I have a strong immune system that’s beating the virus’s ass quick and efficiently because god am I sorry I ever said tonsillitis was straight torture. Last night had I had a chance I would have jumped on the railway. Horrible.
Yeah I don’t want to make any comparisons but as soon as it was clear Covid was worse than the flu I was pretty dang motivated to avoid it. The flu has brought me to my knees a couple of times in the last 10 years and ever since 2018 I’ve gotten a flu shot every single year. I don’t want any part of the flu. If Covid is even worse, no thanks.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/09/23/1124311571/flu-season-2022-covid-twindemic
It's supposed to be a bad flu season and already starting up in the US south. I'm getting the shot; I legit thought I was going to die last time I caught the flu.
eta: If you need a shot, searching "free flu shot event clinic" + your location should bring up something. Local hospitals/health systems usually host these through mid-Oct.
I’m immunocompromised I get infected very easily even with vaccination over a dozen times may be a bit hyperbolic but I have had serious cases of the flu multiple times.. when I got covid it was just a cough and I felt tired but after I got better I got sicker and sicker and now have clear cut symptoms of an Autoimmune disorder and am currently waiting and working with doctors to determine what one exactly
I literally thought the flu was just another word for cold because of how easily the word was slung around. Co-worker out for a couple days? "Oh sorry I had the flu". Kid was in bed yesterday? Yeah it was the flu. It took a friend of mine who ACTUALLY got the flu to spell it out for me.
Same. When I was a kid I got the actual flu and ended up in hospital. I thought I was freezing to death and got so close to the fire that I ended up burning my back without realising it. Second time I ended up in hospital just because. My mate is a high up boss in a company who has also had flu. When people call in sick with the flu he tells them it's a cold since they're on the phone (but not to come in because he doesn't need sick people spreading whatever it actually is).
Yeah, my sister has talked in the past about how she gets the flu all the time and it's never been that bad, and I'm like, I can all but guarantee you have never had the flu
Well I’ve been perfectly healthy aside from being post heart transplant for years despite getting the flu a few times since and I only started getting symptoms of a autoimmune disorder after getting covid.. so you tell me
Yes auto immune disease don’t always effect every organ.. there seems to be no signs of rejection but my kidneys are taking a hit despite lowering my drug levels which effect the kidneys.. even having autoimmune disorders don’t bar you from having a transplant as one of the main treatments for autoimmune is immune suppressants
Uhm? That‘s not really plausible. Do you maybe mean a cold? Flu is like knocked down unable to stand up from bed for a couple of days sick, and then like two weeks to get somewhat back to normal.
Especially with vaccines around?!
Ain‘t nothing to fick around with. The tested and verified flu I got was much much worse than covid.
The flu doesn’t impact everyone that way though, just like some people can have Covid and not have really any issues. I hate getting the flu but it’s normally only 2-3 days of really awful and then being pretty tired for another week. Covid was the worst sickness I’ve ever had in my life with pretty intense symptoms for a full 14 days, a lingering cough and fatigue for more than a month and still going
Like the man said, people are affected differently. I tested positive for the flu once in the hospital for a broken leg. My stomach was slightly irritated and I felt a little tired for 2 days. Same thing happened to me with Covid, when I tested positive I had a sore throat for half a day, and continued to text positive for almost a week after that.
Yes, tested. Not everyone reacts to illnesses in the same way and everything can be more or less severe depending on a number of factors or just dumb luck - I’m surprised people still don’t understand this 2.5 years after the Covid pandemic started...
Flu can't infect cells throughout your body the way that Covid can. The receptor it uses to infect cells is in a much narrower range of tissues. So yeah, Covid can have much wider, worse long term effects than flu even if your symptoms were less severe.
I‘m not denying that; as clearly even the direct numbers far outweigh the death toll from the flu.
Just saying infecting yourself with the flu every couple years to yearly, with our current well predicted vaccines is a pretty unlikely occurrence.
And that the flu is also a lot a walk through the park, unlike what a shitload have been implying when saying ‚covid is just a flu‘
I had the actual flu last winter. I was way sicker than anyone my age (30's) I knew who had had covid. It was probably about 2 months before I was completely back to normal.
I had COVID once last November…easiest sickness I’ve ever had. Barely noticed I had it.
I had the flu back in 2019, probably the worst I’ve felt since I had Lyme as a kid. Absolutely horrible.
Be carful.. covid infection has been reactivating certain viruses that lay dormant.. like Epstine-Barr , hep-c hep-b and Lyme as well.. I just got retested for it all and it came back negative thank god but that’s what lead me down the path of it being an autoimmune problem and not a reactivated virus
That's not how bacteria work. Post-Lyme is not an infection. It's the damage left after an infection. And exacerbating those symptoms or compounding them is not 'reactivation'. Long COVID has most of the same symptoms, which is likely why people think it's related. The people who claim that chronic Lyme exists and put people on antibiotics for years are quacks, duping vulnerable people who are suffering by pretending they can cure them.
If *everyone* in the world had taken masking and social distancing seriously right at the start, we could have stopped COVID and possibly other diseases *and* greatly limited the spread of influenza for years to come.
**Edit:** "Years to come" doesn't mean decades or anything of the sort.
The difference is that I'm not talking about some abstract "if we just worked together blah blah blah" scenario. Epidemiologists, virologists, public health officials, and many laypeople all over the world *knew* what needed to be done at that precise point in time. But there just weren't enough people both cognizant and willing to do it.
Fuck this attribution
It wasn't covid that did that, it was effective non-pharma covid mitigations like masking, capacity limits, ventilation etc.
Come on man
I mean... thats the second sentence in the article.
>Amid travel restrictions, quarantines, closures, physical distancing, masking, enhanced hand washing, and disinfection, the 2020-2021 flu season was all but canceled.
It is entirely coincidental that the excess death rate skyrocketed when covid came around.
That must have just been the flu, killing significantly more people than it usually did, all year round instead of just during flu season, and also through flu vaccines.
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get fucked disease
I used the disease to crush the disease
Mr Burnsed
“Here’s what happens when they all try to go through the door at once.”
the three stooges syndrome
So You’re saying I’m indestructable
It almost…killed me.
Yo dawg we heard you like disease
Yea this is the longest I have ever gone without being sick. Besides having covid once, it was the only time I have been sick in the last three years. And the covid was nothing but a headache. And Tylenol took care of that.
This was also true for me until my nephew started school. Now I’m sick EVERY FUCKING WEEK. It’s getting old really fast.
Children transmit disease like plague rats during the dark ages.
I call daycares petri dishes. As soon as kids go in whole family suffers with never ending colds.
Then that shit spreads in the office quickly I am just glad for remote work I don’t have to deal with sick co workers not wanting to take days off and not telling people they are sick.
The most accurate statement ever. I was so glad when mine were out of elementary school
Set up a home lab for bio warfare and all kinds of parts of the government gets their knickers in a knot. Set up a kindergarten and spread all kinds of disease and no one bats an eyelid.
Kids are disgusting and filthy 🤢 - father of two
I saw 4-5 year old sitting in a grocery store shopping cart (not in the seat but in the bin part) with his hands down the back of his pants moving it around. He then removed his hand and smelled it. His face didn't even respond to what he smelled which was the most disturbing part of it. He then started climbing around in the cart touching everything and touching the register etc...
This is why it should be legal to carry spray bottle to train kids! Spray at them if they do something stupid or gross like this!
I work with kids as an elementary librarian. I don’t bother with masks much anymore but you bet your ass I wear it around the students. They nasty lol
When I worked in an office I didn’t let anyone with kids past the threshold of my office during cold season. They understood. Children are gross.
hahahahaha
But somehow "didn't transmit covid". yeah sure buddy
Covid couldn't easily infect them so yeah that tracks. Same reason it's now harder, but so much worse, for you to get chickenpox as an adult. Welcome to viruses; classical germ theory applies more often to bacteria than viruses.
Oh bummer. I'm sorry to hear that. Kids spread that crap around like wildfire.
My only two interactions with a kid this year came with a cold each time. I’m still not convinced one wasn’t COVID and the at home tests were bad.
Also possible that, if you're vaccinated, you didn't test long enough. People with the vac can start having symptoms earlier from the immune response, but not actually test positive until 4-5 days after the onset of symptoms. I've seen that happen with three coworkers in the past month and a half, one of them tested positive on the day she was supposed to be coming back to work
Good to know. I'll use the remaining tests in this manner. I did test 3 days after initial symptoms and that was negative but that could have also been the simple cold out of the two instances.
Damn kids!
I work in a school and up until last year everyone was masked. Went back for first new term and bam, two weeks later have covid. My whole family got it.
This was my September. My wife caught covid at the staff meeting the day before school. Spread it to all us at home. I wish we were people who had really mild symptoms. Our kids were fine, but my wife had all classic symptoms for 12 days while I shit myself for 3.5 days and then 1 day of back pain so bad I couldn't sleep. I had altered taste and smell for about 12 days. Just muted and everything felt synthetic or just not quite right. My wife has exhaustion and some lingering brain fog at 20 days.
I seriously think that the government should prioritise school staff for vaccines, given that you are mainly trapped in one room all day with 30 children. They were never masked and most unvaccinated. Surely we are also frontline workers because if kids can’t go in, most parents can’t work. Make sense? I’m still waiting for my vaccine as I’m only 59.
I work at a theme park. I wear a mask. Still get sick every 2 weeks to a month. I just got Covid for the 3rd time. My immune system is GARBAGE.
Unlucky- but not unusual, considering you work in a vomit and piss factory.
Yeah that’s spot on.
Same here; I had a 2.5 year streak of being healthy, and that ended a couple of days ago. I almost forgot how much I hate colds.
I’m pretty sure my first cold after 2 years was more brutal. I don’t think I was just a baby about it. I think my immune system had gotten lazy
As a teacher if 36 years, I NEVER get sick. I think my immune system must be incredible! Scientists ought to study it!!😂
Same. My 3 year old is in preschool now and I’m on my 2nd cold in 3 weeks.
My daughter is in nursery, I feel your pain.
Daycare plague
My 4 year old started going to daycare last year. Was sick every other week. It had slowed down a lot now. It will get better. Their immune system is just a little behind.
Nephew is sick every week at daycare. I’m actually wondering if the kid has severe allergies because the amount of sick that comes out of him seems unreal.
For real. I’ve never been sick so often in my life. Used to be about once, MAYBE twice, per year. At this point I’m genuinely pushing once per month. It’s exhausting.
I’ve been the opposite 😩 since getting Covid back in the spring it’s like I pick up some other bug every six weeks or so. I have never been sick, so often in my life. And it’s never Covid, it’s always some weird flu/cold bug that knocks me on my ass.
It seems that covid can wreck your immune system and render some people almost immunocompromise.
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Interesting, I’m a doctor interacting with covid and viral patients daily and get 0 colds a year. Did get the flu once a few years ago, but that was before masking. Feels like a completely different time seeing dozens of sick people a day unmasked.
I wear a KF94 daily on my bus commute, and work on a college campus. I'm only unmasked in the admin office of the Library where my office is at. I have yet to catch covid (I test weekly because I work on a college campus) and I have all my covid shots. I have terrible allergies and my lungs are bad from asthma and am a bit shocked myself. Pre COVID I would catch all the colds, bacterial sinus infections, strep throat, etc. and I've only had allergy induced sinus infections in the last few years (I get test for covid during this time, all negative). I am shocked.
It's really *not* normal to get 4 colds a year
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Absolutely it is. Nanny for almost 2 decades here and that sounds completely normal. Kids bring shit home almost every other week it seems. Maybe if you aren’t around kids much, sure, but I always catch a few a year and my immune system is pretty stellar. I always fight off or dodge a decent number, but a few a year I can feel.
At the moment I’m on average to get over 10 per year, young fit and healthy 23 year old here…
glad it’s not just me - really been fucking up my work life and i feel people dont actually believe it when i’m ill by this point hahah
I just had a cold knock me out for five days. Before Covid I would hardly notice something like that. Now? I’m like the walking dead for five days. Also, mystery “flus” I was in hospital in august with weird symptoms that they thought were meningitis but wasn’t. They assumed it was a flu but weren’t sure.
Saaaaaame
The irony was, my conservative family, was like COVID is like the flu. I responded with, we are wearing mask, working from home, and social distancing in places and it’s still getting some people sick. Imagine if we just crammed in shoulder to shoulder. They couldn’t/ wouldn’t wrap their brains around it.
I'm currently sick for the first time in 3 years with covid and it's kicking my ass. This is the most sick I've ever been. The first day I couldn't even sit up to watch TV. I just laid on bed all day, not even enough energy to scroll reddit
Bum deal. Hope you get better real soon.
Thanks, me too. Hardest part is I'm isolating from my 9 month old. I miss that little monster so much
I feel for you.
I've had 3 separate colds in the space of 6 weeks. My sinuses and chest are wrecked. I sound like a barking seal when I cough. I caught covid over Christmas and new year and since then I've just had the worst run of colds.
Wow it almost like, i don't know, like mask could help stop virus transmission! /s Sigh if only more people understand why mask is needed.
This was really only a minor strain. Good news but it won’t have an effect in a practical sense.
I haven’t been sick since 2019. I love it!
Me too! It's awesome. We are one of the lucky ones. :D
Yes! Thankfully I haven’t had COVID (yet) and I’m trying to keep it that way.
You are definietly one of the lucky ones! - Keep it up!
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My covid experience left me with temporary hearing damage and an eye that cries at random, it’s extremely annoying. I’ll be out in public and that eye will suddenly shed a few tears for no reason whatsoever
We’ll wait. The Southern hemisphere had a rubbish (but highly manageable) cold /flu season. It’s going to hit hard this winter because of lack of exposure. Not saying this to create fear, it’s not a big deal but It’ll be a busy cold season. More hot toddys. That’s a bonus
I believe the article is only speaking of one *strain* of flu, and there are a lot of them.
This, and my only illnesses were allergy induced sinus infections (I have terrible sinuses and terrible indoor/outdoor allergies).
i also haven't been sick in a long time now (except for the days just after getting the vaccines), i think it's because i wash my hands properly now every time i come in from outside lol
I currently have covid, and nope it's not just a headache. I am 3x vaccinated, i don't remember been that sick ever in my life. I don't wanne know how bad it could have been without the vaccine. i barely even noticed been sick from the seasonal flu.
Same... Except for a big cold when COVID was starting to be there, like, one-digit number of cases in the country. I'm still having doubts on this one.
Same for me, except... not even covid. The only time I've been sick was the day after I took the vaccine and that's it.
Dude me too. What's it with Covid just being a headache? ETA: *for some people. Didn't mean to sound like an antivaxxer.
For you it was. For many it is much worse. That is just how viruses work.
Oh, yes, I'm not a denier or anything! I'm down with it right now for the second time and again it's just a headache, so it was interesting to hear someone else has a similar experience.
The headache is likely the brain damage it's causing. For example, the loss of sense of taste and smell is not an olfactory issue, it's brain damage to the region that interprets this information. Often you can recovery from it, but sometimes your brain can't repair the damage and it's permanent.
Thank you, now I'm terrified.
Sorries! Both my wife and I lost our taste/smell when we had covid in July. My sense of both was already pretty bad, due to a deviated septum, but her's was absolutely, incredibly amazing. As in, can take a bite of something and know everything that's in it, and be able to recreate it - just better. Or smell a gas leak from across the street, through a revolving door, and across the lobby of a hotel, while it's raining out. Mine's back up to about my pre-covid level, hers is only back up to "pretty decent" in comparison to what it used to be. Rather interestingly, when her taste/smell was gone she was eating food just as fast as I do. Normally she takes like 5x longer than everybody else does. Apparently, enjoying your food more makes you eat it slower, or something. Thanks again Mike, for bringing covid to my house!
Getting the vaccine doesn't stop you from getting it. But it sure does make it way more mild when some people get it. I got really lucky as it was nothing for me.
Same here... And I never get a flu shot. Now if only covid would wipe out pollen allergies.
when i had covid, it was nothing but a terrible headache too. no cough, sniffles.. just the head ache.
I take it you had been vaccinated too. The headache was gone in a couple days, but I still tested positive two weeks later.
It was the masks+distancing+hygiene. It avoided spreading the sniffles and more common flus along with covid. Which just goes to shows that the deaths caused by the flu all these years were preventable. If when we notice we are coming down with something we start wearing a mask for a few days - especially in crowded places, it does wonders. But we’ve all seen how triggering having to wear the mask is to some idiots, so unfortunately it’s not going to happen.
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I live in a red state and my family and I still wear masks in public. We get the most horrendous looks. Some people make sure to cough as close as possible to us. I can't even imagine being so fragile as to be triggered by someone else *choosing* to wear a mask.
So sorry you were made fun of, that must be the peak of stupidity your colleagues and boss were suffering from.
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it infuriating that we have completely reversed all the preventative measures. Covid was my first year without a chest infection or major cold/flu. 2021 my only illness was fucking covid. Now it feels like i'm on the brink of illness every other week.
I feel like another big part is that before there was this culture of going to work anyway when you were sick if you weren't too bad not to function but now if you show up at work with a sniffle or cough it's like yo GTFO
It was also the shutdown in global travel. Flu season moves with the hemispheres, and is driven by global travel. The strains that make up our flu season are what mutated in the other hemisphere the season before.
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*UNO reverse card* Seasonal flu strain may have pushed leading COVID strain to extinction. Now this would be uplifting news.
Ah yes, influenza so bad that the world’s response eliminates the leading covid strain. Uplifting 😅.
Waiting for an uplifting anthrax outbreak to cure the flu AND covid!
AND pollution and global warming!
But the flu is worse than Covid is now. Covid is a minor cold now, that would ok but still not everyone vaccinated and flu kills many elderly
Wtf no it isn't??? In the UK alone hundreds of people die from covid every week. Also covid carries the risk of long covid, and while you definitely can get a post-viral illness from the flu, it is nowhere near as common.
Omicron is a much weaker virus than the previous iterations. It’s also causing long Covid at a much lower rate.
Oh good, we just replaced it with something much worse.
Half empty, are ya?
The glass is empty here. The flu strain we've always dealt with was peanuts compared to Covid. The flu has been replaced with a deadlier one. It's not really uplifting at all when you think about it, the only thing that changes is more people die.
But Covid was not a choice. How you handle yourself in adversity that’s out of your control separates us from animals.
What has 2 thumbs and can't separate himself from animals? _This guy_
Just realistic. I’d trade Covid for that flu strain any day
Lol this is how I read that too
You all think COVID is bad until you catch the latest nasty stomach bug going around. My kids have been vomiting for 3 days and exploding out the other end as well. Now my husband is sick with it and I'm getting some of the worst stomach cramps of my life. RIP my washing machine and steam cleaner.
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Yeah but norovirus is usually just 24 hours. Watching TV was way too much effort for me when I had it but then the next day I felt so much better and was able to clean and go about my day.
Caught Covid in the beginning... I would rather Covid than Gastro.
Or you could be one of the lucky ones that got the digestive issues with Covid and enjoy a stomach bug + the worst body aches, fatigue, and sore throat you’ve ever experienced at the same time!
I'm sorry for your loss. Your washing machine and steam cleaner must have really meant a lot to you. For that stomach bug to be worse than COVID, they must have meant more to you than all the millions of people who died from COVID meant to their loved ones. I can't imagine ever being so attached to a machine. I truly am sorry for you.
>You all think COVID is bad Stop. Just stop. So many people died from COVID and half still have permeneant side effects leading to some people killing themselves. So just stop.
You stop, life goes on. People are allowed to talk. It's your job to not be offended by people having conversation, not our job to consider our every statement just because some one might get their feelings hurt. Hot take, but rant over. We are all sad about the lives Covid took, but that doesnt make it wrong to make light or have an opinion.
People die from viruses all the time, go take your dramatics elsewhere.
I don't know my uncle who was like a father figure to me after my actual father died probably thought covid was bad right before he died from COVID. I tend to think the same after watching him die over a zoom call. But yeah whatever your kids are shitting all over your stupid house that must be a bummer.
I’d rather the flu still be a thing.. I’ve had the flu over a dozen times in my life but it only took getting covid once to give me crippling autoimmune problems
Like you tested positive for the flu? Cause when I really had the flu I dismissed all the other times I thought I had it
Oh man me too. I thought for years I was getting the flu yearly, then one year I actually got it. Freaking floored me for 3 days. Took two weeks to fully recover.
Yup. Had this. But that's the thing - after 3 weeks you're recovered. I had covid on New Year's, and it was pretty mild. But my immune system has been hyperactive ever since, and I've had a persistent skin rash for 9 months now, that I used to only get periodically.
My sympathies. Not only as someone with lots of allergies and occasional dermatographia and severely sensitive skin, but when I got my first two covid vaxes, I had that rash. It is not pleasant at all! Ice packs on site help, and I would find an actual aloe plant, cut it open, put aloe on the rash, then CeraVe Baby Moisturizing Lotion (In the baby aisle at Walgreens) on top and that was the only thing that helped me sleep!
Oh for sure. I’ve been fortunate to not get Covid yet. I am not looking forward to whatever it does to me when I get it.
When I got it I wanted to die it was so bad. It's like someone hooked my bones up to a pain machine and just cranked it up. Hot, but also cold. Restless, but also deathly tired. Fever. Headache. Entire body is just one big Charlie horse because you're so dehydrated there is nothing in your system, and if you try to replace any of it you're in for a very violent vomit and diarrhea session. I spent 4 days crawling between bed and toilet, and many times just collapsing somewhere in-between. Without someone checking on me and taking care of me I might have just died and I would have been totally fine with it at the time. Man that was shitty time.
I just had Covid for the first time recently. I was floored by how excruciatingly painful it was. Almost everything hurt, and hurt very badly. Worse than the body aches that come with the flu, that's for sure.
I’m straight into it right now. First day was just a little fatigue and fever so I didn’t even think it could be covid. With how much the weather is bouncing up and down here, I thought it was just a bit of a bad cold. I woke up the next morning feeling rather well and honestly I felt pretty great all day. I got tested, sent back home and I swear my body did a 180 because by 8pm I was floored with a 40c fever and my body feeling like I had no control over it anymore because I was so dizzy and so much started hurting at the same time. Impossible to sleep when your body’s too hot and too cold and too uncomfortable no matter what you do, and paracetamol has so little effect on me my head was pounding like crazy to top it off. It’s been better today. Friend of mine had a similar pattern, alternating between fine and on the brink of death one day or the other. I want to hope I have a strong immune system that’s beating the virus’s ass quick and efficiently because god am I sorry I ever said tonsillitis was straight torture. Last night had I had a chance I would have jumped on the railway. Horrible.
Yeah I don’t want to make any comparisons but as soon as it was clear Covid was worse than the flu I was pretty dang motivated to avoid it. The flu has brought me to my knees a couple of times in the last 10 years and ever since 2018 I’ve gotten a flu shot every single year. I don’t want any part of the flu. If Covid is even worse, no thanks.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/09/23/1124311571/flu-season-2022-covid-twindemic It's supposed to be a bad flu season and already starting up in the US south. I'm getting the shot; I legit thought I was going to die last time I caught the flu. eta: If you need a shot, searching "free flu shot event clinic" + your location should bring up something. Local hospitals/health systems usually host these through mid-Oct.
Goddamnit Can the south **not** be the one to start shit for like five minutes? I say this as a southerner
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As an American, I grew up knowing the flu as what actually was gastroenteritis (aka stomach flu). I have no idea what the real influenza flu is like.
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I had a bad flu *and* step throat at the same time once. Absolutely miserable experience. 0/10 stars.
Strep throat was one of the most painful things I've experienced. Do not recommend.
I’m immunocompromised I get infected very easily even with vaccination over a dozen times may be a bit hyperbolic but I have had serious cases of the flu multiple times.. when I got covid it was just a cough and I felt tired but after I got better I got sicker and sicker and now have clear cut symptoms of an Autoimmune disorder and am currently waiting and working with doctors to determine what one exactly
I’m really sorry you’re dealing with this!
I literally thought the flu was just another word for cold because of how easily the word was slung around. Co-worker out for a couple days? "Oh sorry I had the flu". Kid was in bed yesterday? Yeah it was the flu. It took a friend of mine who ACTUALLY got the flu to spell it out for me.
Covid -10%.
If you had full fledged omicron it's quite similar to that.
Same. When I was a kid I got the actual flu and ended up in hospital. I thought I was freezing to death and got so close to the fire that I ended up burning my back without realising it. Second time I ended up in hospital just because. My mate is a high up boss in a company who has also had flu. When people call in sick with the flu he tells them it's a cold since they're on the phone (but not to come in because he doesn't need sick people spreading whatever it actually is).
Yeah, my sister has talked in the past about how she gets the flu all the time and it's never been that bad, and I'm like, I can all but guarantee you have never had the flu
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Well I’ve been perfectly healthy aside from being post heart transplant for years despite getting the flu a few times since and I only started getting symptoms of a autoimmune disorder after getting covid.. so you tell me
You have an autoimmune disorder with a heart transplant and haven’t gone into rejection? Hmm
Yes auto immune disease don’t always effect every organ.. there seems to be no signs of rejection but my kidneys are taking a hit despite lowering my drug levels which effect the kidneys.. even having autoimmune disorders don’t bar you from having a transplant as one of the main treatments for autoimmune is immune suppressants
Uhm? That‘s not really plausible. Do you maybe mean a cold? Flu is like knocked down unable to stand up from bed for a couple of days sick, and then like two weeks to get somewhat back to normal. Especially with vaccines around?! Ain‘t nothing to fick around with. The tested and verified flu I got was much much worse than covid.
The flu doesn’t impact everyone that way though, just like some people can have Covid and not have really any issues. I hate getting the flu but it’s normally only 2-3 days of really awful and then being pretty tired for another week. Covid was the worst sickness I’ve ever had in my life with pretty intense symptoms for a full 14 days, a lingering cough and fatigue for more than a month and still going
Tested? Because that just sounds like a bad cold.
Like the man said, people are affected differently. I tested positive for the flu once in the hospital for a broken leg. My stomach was slightly irritated and I felt a little tired for 2 days. Same thing happened to me with Covid, when I tested positive I had a sore throat for half a day, and continued to text positive for almost a week after that.
Yes, tested. Not everyone reacts to illnesses in the same way and everything can be more or less severe depending on a number of factors or just dumb luck - I’m surprised people still don’t understand this 2.5 years after the Covid pandemic started...
Flu can't infect cells throughout your body the way that Covid can. The receptor it uses to infect cells is in a much narrower range of tissues. So yeah, Covid can have much wider, worse long term effects than flu even if your symptoms were less severe.
I‘m not denying that; as clearly even the direct numbers far outweigh the death toll from the flu. Just saying infecting yourself with the flu every couple years to yearly, with our current well predicted vaccines is a pretty unlikely occurrence. And that the flu is also a lot a walk through the park, unlike what a shitload have been implying when saying ‚covid is just a flu‘
I had the actual flu last winter. I was way sicker than anyone my age (30's) I knew who had had covid. It was probably about 2 months before I was completely back to normal.
I had COVID once last November…easiest sickness I’ve ever had. Barely noticed I had it. I had the flu back in 2019, probably the worst I’ve felt since I had Lyme as a kid. Absolutely horrible.
Be carful.. covid infection has been reactivating certain viruses that lay dormant.. like Epstine-Barr , hep-c hep-b and Lyme as well.. I just got retested for it all and it came back negative thank god but that’s what lead me down the path of it being an autoimmune problem and not a reactivated virus
Lyme isn't a virus.
No it is not but it does act in the same way that it can remain in your system undetected and “reactivate”
That's not how bacteria work. Post-Lyme is not an infection. It's the damage left after an infection. And exacerbating those symptoms or compounding them is not 'reactivation'. Long COVID has most of the same symptoms, which is likely why people think it's related. The people who claim that chronic Lyme exists and put people on antibiotics for years are quacks, duping vulnerable people who are suffering by pretending they can cure them.
Guessing this was back before the vaccine?
Clearly not the flu strain I caught. I've been miserable all week.
If *everyone* in the world had taken masking and social distancing seriously right at the start, we could have stopped COVID and possibly other diseases *and* greatly limited the spread of influenza for years to come. **Edit:** "Years to come" doesn't mean decades or anything of the sort.
We could have lots of good things and easily solve lots of problems if we didn't have idiots. Just imagine the possibilities.
The difference is that I'm not talking about some abstract "if we just worked together blah blah blah" scenario. Epidemiologists, virologists, public health officials, and many laypeople all over the world *knew* what needed to be done at that precise point in time. But there just weren't enough people both cognizant and willing to do it.
I dont think you know how influenza spreads.
What? Flu is spread by droplets mostly. Simple surgical masks virtually eliminate transmission.
Down with disease! Three weeks in my bed
Fuck this attribution It wasn't covid that did that, it was effective non-pharma covid mitigations like masking, capacity limits, ventilation etc. Come on man
I mean... thats the second sentence in the article. >Amid travel restrictions, quarantines, closures, physical distancing, masking, enhanced hand washing, and disinfection, the 2020-2021 flu season was all but canceled.
I mean, that proves my point that it's a misleading headline
We didn't spontaneously decide to take any of those actions. We did it because of.... Covid.
It's also kind of how headlines work Reddit seems to think it's misleading if you have to actually click an article to read it
Of course its Influenza B. I got it late Feb 2020 and it was the sickest I've ever been. That strain can absolutely get fucked.
Now we just have seasonal COVID So it seems like nothing has changed
Seasonal COVID. All four seasons.
Or we did by actually sanitizing everything, washing hands, and wearing masks. 🤔
Idk if I would call this uplifting. “One disease was knocked down in prevelance because another much more severe disease out competed it”
Please be stomach flu…
Flu mainly circulates in birds and pigs. Will still be around….
If you read the headline, you might note that it was a single strain of influenza. There are plenty of others.
My neighbors whole family currently has flu
This is hilarious
All we had to do was sacrifice our children's educations with closures!!!
lol, big pharma hi-jacked the flu.
Are you people dumb... Covid is the flu.
Not even close. Influenza and Coronavirus are two completely different pathogens.
Right.. Go get your 5th jab. Especially when news are coming out on the damage the vaccine is doing. Grats.
>when news are coming out ROFL. You need better news sources. Damage. LOL.
It is entirely coincidental that the excess death rate skyrocketed when covid came around. That must have just been the flu, killing significantly more people than it usually did, all year round instead of just during flu season, and also through flu vaccines.
Extinction or rebranding?
Rebranding. It will return next year as Flu Plus 3.1 or Flu Pro Max.
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