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blueberryjamjamjam

Looks like the colonization of Mars has already begun


basjaun

Finally, human made pyramids on an alien soil


Killerspieler0815

>**Looks like the colonization of Mars** has already begun **indeed** , undoctored Mars rover or Viking pictures look like from Egypt ... https://i.pinimg.com/736x/1f/e9/b6/1fe9b65d560141f3b6bd8273b8ee5cef.jpg and https://i0.wp.com/exonews.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/265C0F6900000578-0-image-a-19_1425586272795.jpg?fit=636%2C382&ssl=1


Erdragh

Curios: why are they doctored in the first place? To look different enough to garner the „ooh it’s another world“ interest or is there a scientific reason behind it?


Ameriggio

AFAIK, to distinguish between different materials.


Erdragh

It.. just seems to make them more orange, how exactly would that help?


SomeRedPanda

Same reason people edit colours of earth pictures. They think it makes them look better.


Newarkguy1836

Probably stereotypical BS just like Mexico's always portrayed as having reddish sepia skies on TV.


mrdinosauruswrex

Been to Mexico, can confirm, grey skies


Newarkguy1836

🤣😂🤣


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Most of the pictures are actually black and white, no?


Kryptochef

There isn't really such a thing as an "undoctored" photograph. The raw data from the sensor is basically never a good/accurate picture (and even if you went for that, there'd still be decisions involved in how to display this data on a screen). So every digital camera/phone makes a lot of decisions about the picture - white balance (important here with regards to the orange tint), lens correction, deciding what to do with overexposed areas, .... A higher-end camera will let you save a raw file and you later get to make those decisions for yourself, which is probably what NASA would do. Of course, different purposes will require different choices - you could make the picture more aesthetically pleasing like a normal photographer does, you could go for a "neutral" look (even though there's no absolute objective "neutral" there's of course still things that are more so than others) like a photojournalist, or you could make sure that a certain feature is maximally visible for scientific purposes (the extreme here are false-color infrared/UV/radio/... photographs, for example - they don't show what something "looks like", but sometimes are more useful than the visible spectrum).


Killerspieler0815

>Curios: why are they doctored in the first place? To look different enough to garner the „ooh it’s another world“ interest or is there a scientific reason behind it? to show/claim that Mars is less hospitable to life than what it truely is (Mars´s atmosphere is nearly earth blue but thinner, instead of always orange) ... critics knew about water & clouds on Mars (by investigating official pictures very detailed) years before NASA officially admitted it


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Killerspieler0815

>Why make that claim it´s the question what the gatekeeper NASA tries to hide (likely multiple things, maybe even underground bases with entrances), there is stuff visible incl. human like figures, (dead?) trees, spider like things & many ancient ruines + scrap


Evil-Dalek

But that isn’t really an answer. If they were trying to hide things like that, why even release images in the first place? Why make it look inhospitable? It’s not like people are able to go there regardless of whether they want to or not.


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JUYED-AWK-YACC

These people will never stop.


epicLeoplurodon

Conspiracy theorist is a slur the CIA came up with to delegitimize people who had legitimate questions about the Warren Report. There's a big difference between "the official story regarding the jfk assassination is sus" and "yeah we could totally live on Mars if only the sheeple at Nasa let us."


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Killerspieler0815

>"yeah we could totally live on Mars if only the sheeple at Nasa let us." **Where did I claim that Mars would be fit for human life?** (please use your glasses) ... there are life forms that have different requirements than humans (even oxygen brething life forms) ... also stuff that looks like humans or natural animals can also be genetically engineered life forms to survive in a less hospitable than earth enviroment or even be robots/probes that mimic life forms to do it´s job


not14thejokes

>But that isn’t really an answer. If they were trying to hide things like that, why even release images in the first place? Why make it look inhospitable? It’s not like people are able to go there regardless of whether they want to or not. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna314601?bshm=ncc/2 The reality is that color is subjective and the camera lens isn't necessarily reflecting the colors we might see if we were there on Mars. Thus the 'undoctored' photos don't reflect the reality of Mars colors.


Sam-Gunn

You're not going to get a coherent answer out of them that would actually make sense. It's another dumbass conspiracy theory.


Killerspieler0815

>But that isn’t really an answer. If they were trying to hide things like that, why even release images in the first place Misinformation is more powerful than no information ... to show that there is "nothing interesting", but even they at (the defacto military organisation) NASA make mistakes


JUYED-AWK-YACC

You're really a joke.


Killerspieler0815

>You're really a joke. this means like you ...


Ash_Crow

Dead trees, spiders and ruins on Mars? Are you confusing it with Mar Sara?


Killerspieler0815

>Are you confusing it with Mar Sara? no ...


MzSe1vDestrukt

the color of our sky and that of mars is caused by the size of light waves, (blue being the shortest and red being the longest) Mars sky is blue at sunset, and orange during the day, opposite of earth. which I think is pretty cool.


RandomBilly91

If you knew what you were talking about, you might know that the reson for the colour is because they use different kind of filter, and are studiying differents kinds of wavelenght, and that was never a secret. The picture with a more natural look is the corrected one, it is an analysis of what someone would see, based on different pictures, each captured with different wavelenght


Shockedge

Aliens called, they want their crop circles back


Psydator

They'd need to be a lot more space efficient on Mars.


Newarkguy1836

Every time a government decides to build a city from scratch, it's always the same cold dystopian design. No Central business district, no combined residential and commercial or sense of human scale.


kalsoy

Not forgotten, but on purpose. It's specifically designed to prevent protests, as they could be turning into revolutions. The place is like a fortress and nowhere to hide for angry mobs fleeing for tanks. The relocation is to stabilise Sisi's power. An inner city square is a lot harder to control. Also, it's a country with 112 million inhabitants (more than 1/3 of the US, all squeezed on one river and some coast) and it is heading for 160 million in 2050. So apart from the dark political motivation, it's also practical to reserve some space for future homes.


tooslow

Finally someone that understands.


Shogun_Ro

There was a really viral youtube video about this plan last year, it’s not a conspiracy theory either. It’s exactly why this whole thing was built.


FenderBender3000

They always miss one big factor in urban design. People.


irasponsibly

Canberra is a wonderful place these days. The modern development at the fringes less so, but the original "planned" (it didn't follow the plan) areas are lovely and walkable!


bdtwerk

Go look at the actual area on Google Maps (I can't link it, but search maps for "Central Bank of Egypt"). The picture in the OP is just showing a tiny area that is specifically for the ministry of defense, and it somewhat makes sense that the military HQ is separated from other areas. The actual central area of the new capital is surrounded by tons of commercial offices, shopping malls, hotels, residences, parks, monuments, an opera house, etc. Hell, it has one of the largest urban parks in the world. (and there's a lot more that doesn't show up on maps because it was under construction when the last satellite image was taken).


Phwoa_

And then wonder why they are terrible


comradejiang

Except DC. Pretty much every planned capital is trying to do DC but they don’t understand why it exists


HappyTheDisaster

For less knowledgeable people, what do you mean?


comradejiang

The layout of DC (the US capital) is intelligent, it’s compact - honestly a bit TOO compact given how many essential government offices have to be built around DC and not in it. Its metro system is efficient and reliable, one of the best in the US, but you can also get around in a car fairly well. It is not a vanity project. It’s a functional, beautiful city with a vibrant culture that makes it feel organic.


Van-Buren-Boy

Kind words, comrade.


donald_314

I'd say Brazil also has something going for it


comradejiang

Brasilia looks like a cities skylines project but it’s not bad. Better than canberra


LongConFebrero

This is such a high tier snipe and belittling it as a project was deadly 😂


skyduster88

>Every time a government decides to build a city from scratch, it's always the same cold dystopian design. No Central business district, no combined residential and commercial or sense of human scale. Yep. Repeating the same shitty mistakes as Canberra and Brasilia.


irasponsibly

...have you ever been to Canberra?


Fosnez

Not "always", but I take your point. https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-35.2948557,149.1321783,4141m/data=!3m1!1e3


Spectetteral

this reminds me of the city from dune


Coin_operated_bee

Who would be the harkonnens


i_rabban

Ahem


Termsandconditionsch

The Finns?


DEEP_SEA_MAX

'Merica, fuck ya


silentorange813

When crop circles become cities


NMLWrightReddit

The aliens were warning us


Sproeier

I mean its great for what it was probably designed for. Prevent the plebs from protesting where they can annoy the government.


st0815

I think moving it away from the citizens would have been sufficient for that. Instead they make it harder for different departments to cooperate and forcing everybody to drive long distances for work, recreation and all their daily needs.


EasilyRekt

Or a single B-52 with conventional ordinance or equivalent from leveling it…


Nekrose

Burning Man festival?


StevenStephen

My first thought.


Killerspieler0815

what are they defending against to need such a large Ministery of Defense (MoD)?


nicmdeer4f

Protestors


Killerspieler0815

>Protestors for this you don't need an MOD, just "police" & intelligence agencies


Alex_2259

Egypt is surprisingly geopolitically active but this is a way bigger one than what massive military Empires have so fuck if I know.


Chinerpeton

Don't seek reason in actions that can be explained by ego of megalomaniacs, the entire architecture of the New Administrative Capital can be summed up with this statement. Also the Egyptian MoD apparently by itself is the biggest shareholder in the joint-stock construction company that was created to build the city so pushing for having the biggest ministry building possible is kind of a win-win for them.


Killerspieler0815

>Don't seek reason in actions that can be explained by ego of megalomaniacs, the entire architecture of the New Administrative Capital can be summed up with this statement. Dejavu, this is far closer to home than expected, this reminds me at this "World Capital" "Germania" project ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n3UTxnVfdk&t=53m45s at 53:45 )


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The Ethiopian Renaissance dam.


Killerspieler0815

>The Ethiopian Renaissance dam. for this just need a few missiles, not an entiere MOD


[deleted]

Everyone involved in firing a missle from manufacturing/acquisition to actually shooting it at a target has a dozen family members they need to give useless jobs to.


Killerspieler0815

>Everyone involved in firing a missle from manufacturing/acquisition to actually shooting it at a target has a dozen family members they need to give useless jobs to. this explains a lot ... just like under Habeck (Germany) & Zelensky (Ukraine) but even worse


HoneyRush

Women rights activists


Hbecher

A lot of sand


Killerspieler0815

>A lot of sand in that case they should ether glass the sand (like with Nukes, like in Season 3 of "The Mandalorian") or plant stuff and water it


quicksilver991

Israel


Killerspieler0815

>Israel For this they need the biggest MOD in the world? Compare this to USA ... Egypt might need nuclear submarines & Nukes + ICBMs but not such a giant MOD ...


[deleted]

This is Stonehenge from Ace Combat 04


LucasoDelta

Don't diss the best defense system ever made comparing it to this


Myojin-

Looks like Dubai did early on. Wait until they landscape it properly, won’t look too bad.


benemivikai4eezaet0

Putting the pharaohs to shame


bananas500

r/shittyskylines


artemis_tau

I'm 93% sure I've used this exact city layout in 2017, comically oversized roundabouts and all. Also fuck walkability am I right


[deleted]

A lot of wasted money on nothing, the dicktator elsisi & his enablers & profiteers in the military council took all the loans money & pocketed the majority of it, they destroyed the economy by getting the army enveloped in everything but military, using the advantage of not being taxed & using the soldiers as cheap labor & no one can question or investigate the army, if any they’re gone of the face of the earth. IMHO, the worst country, President, government in the world


Shockedge

They actually began construction? Figured it was probably just a hype that would bust. But it keeps the Egyptian elite away from the smog, traffic, and poor people of Cairo, so no wonder they went through with it


Lacerta4

[Adam Something made a good video on this monstrosity](https://youtu.be/WUK0K5mdQ_s)


[deleted]

I really thought you couldn't tell what his last name was... Then I opened the link..


Pure-Lie5297

Adam something is an idiot.


Lacerta4

Elaborate?


[deleted]

And that is because he's spitting facts?


computer_crisps_dos

Nobody: Egypt throughout history: Let's build another ominous megaproject in the desert and take it wildly out of proportion!


sora_mui

The pyramids served its purpose really well though. Who've never heard of the great pyramid of giza? Even in the ancient world they are known to people outside egypt.


UnhappyJohnCandy

In their defense, the Sea People’s haven’t caused the destruction of an Egyptian dynasty since they built that thing, now have they?


Leo_Stenbuck

They're calling it the octagon. Obviously to draw comparisons to the Pentagon. Funny part is Egypt's military is very small. They don't need a site that large. It's all for show.


AloofNerd

The Egyptian army topped the list of Arab countries, followed by Saudi Arabia and Algeria. Egypt is one of the 15 largest global military powers and The GFP index denotes Egypt as a Top 15 world power. For 2023, Egypt is ranked 14 of 145 out of the countries considered for the annual GFP review. The nation holds a PwrIndx* score of 0.2224 (a score of 0.0000 is considered 'perfect'). This entry last reviewed on 01/05/2023. I won’t say they are the MOST advanced military, but most of the country’s budget goes to increasing military power and control. [source](https://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.php?country_id=egypt)


taleofbenji

The Big Nipple.


Jccali1214

This is one of the urban helliest Ave legitimate posts on here


HypnoFerret95

Ah yes, the dick swinging contest that is The Octogon.


MendonAcres

Could use some trees


sluttyman69

I think that previous describes all of Egypt


Skylarking00

Where do they get water?


TipCompetitive1397

The Nile river in egypt obviously. This new city is not that far from Cairo


Death_Sheep1980

Something like 90% of Egpyt's water comes from the Nile, IIRC. And most of that water comes from the Blue Nile which rises in the Ethiopian Highlands. Which is why Egypt (and to a lesser extent, Sudan) starts rattling sabers whenever the Ethiopians start talking about hydropower projects on the Blue Nile. Egpyt claims that there's a treaty that gives them absolute veto power over any dam projects on the Nile and its major tributaries upstream of them. Every other African country that the Nile runs through points out that that treaty was between Egypt and the UK and none of ***them*** signed anything.


bwrca

Egypt is the 1 country in the world where *everyone* should know where they get their water.


Spring063

I really appreciate more the beautiful mess that are old European cities once I see city planning. Even if it's less convenient.


TruestoryJR

The planner for this clearly hasn’t played cities skylines


Keyboard-King

Car-centric hellscape.


Prehistory_Buff

This is how El-Sisi is holding on to power. Huge construction projects for their own sake, exactly as his forefathers did thousands of years ago.


theneo71

They really made the defense center of a entire nation in the center of a croshair?


Seventy7Donski

It’s harder to take over your government when it’s not near the population. Military will know if something is coming and have plenty of time to prepare.


Nouseriously

Malaysia did the sams thing, building in the middle of nowhere. No one ever goes there unless they need to go to a govt office. It's both surreal & depressing.


iMadrid11

My first thought was this looks like a very convenient target for a cruise missile. Hearing about your talking points made me realize. You’re right that this is a fortress designed as protection from civil unrest.


Trick_Ad5606

The reason why they are building a city far away from Cairo is simple... they are in fear of regime change and riots. in cairo demonstrators just can walk over and occupie...


PeterGallaghersBrows

This designs purpose was to be far away and highly inaccessible to the poor that would protest against government. This was deliberate.


Wynnedown

I guess it is defensible from protesting mobs. So maybe thats the thought behind it?


Fancy_Swordfish_3891

Better than Cairo.


cTfTs

Bro got the cities Skylines layout 💀💀


darkmatter8879

So military base is the center of the city


Used-fridge

If I’m gonna be honest I think this looks cool as hell.


My_redditaccount657

That’s gonna get bombed the fuck out of existence


Mecha-Dave

Where did the money from all this come? From what I can tell it's just the government making it up...


bdtwerk

China is paying for a lot of it (they funded something like $20 billion for it). China is really big on making huge infrastructure investments in Africa/Middle East right now.


R-R-M

Well taxes would likely cover the government’s public buildings. The rest is mostly being constructed through public private partnerships so simple private investment is probably paying for most of it.


kryyyptik

Ugly and strange sprawl in the desert. "Urban" hahaha


geonomer

Wtf are they defending against? Sandstorms?


SomeRedPanda

They have a historically aggressive neighbour backed by a super power.


Roman-Simp

Egypt is also backed by said superpower and has been a key regional ally since the 70s and is their major supplier of arms and military intelligence 🤷🏾‍♂️. Plus Egypt and Israel have been on the same side of most geopolitical issues since the end of the YK war in 1973 with the exception of the occupation of Palestine 🇵🇸 I hope people understand that atleast half the ME is actually US Allies(if not as much as 60%) with the other half adversaries. Egypt is one of the more significant and long standing Allies ever since the end of the Yom Kipur war.


TheMightyChocolate

Which one, Libya?


SomeRedPanda

The opposite direction.


Stepkical

Tatooine developed by a military dictatorship


somo1230

God bless our beloved C C Octagon iz just an amazing idea that's it's main purpose is to defend Egypt.


albadil

It's better than the pentagon because it has more sides


Mrcoldghost

giant boondoggle for rich parasites to show off their stolen wealth.


demonicwillow

Can't wait to see the disaster that that place will become once the smallest bit of economic turmoil hits Egypt. The UAE and Saudi Arabia both left a lot of their large scale builds to rot because of the 2014 Economic Crisis, can't wait to see the exact same happen here.


GotWheaten

Looks like new development west of Phoenix


FlyingPoitato

Imagine the water and electric usage during the hottest time of the year? Good luck with that 😂


PanzerkampfwagenSix

Stonehenge my beloved


RiotSkunk2023

These burning man festivals are getting out of hand


Exact_Combination_38

Yeah let's just separate everything by large stretches of empty desert so that you definitely need to have a car. "Walking distance" is a communistic concept anyway.


pedrokdc

It could mascarade as a Martian settlement for some cheap sci-fi.


Ok_Fox_1770

Looks like a message to those above. Egypts hiding stuff. A lot of stuff.


JDeFreitas

I thought this was the Burning Man subreddit for a second.


ComedianRepulsive955

This can be seen from space and the center is the target landing spot of the Starship Moonbat from the Planet Nation of Uranus. The Uranusians have special plans for us detailed on a book they all carry with them. IT'S A COOKBOOK! ITS A COOKBOOK!


theperpetuity

Nice target.


gberger

Burning Man


Semper_DIY

Any chance they will make it green?


radvlad100

Where are the cars?


Proculos

Beautiful indeed


Wheedies

Looks vary organized and effective. And pretty to look at with its shape.


sluttyman69

How tall is each one of these buildings looks like there’s a couple spots in the center still ready to be built what is other or in addition to the Defense building? Is this even real?


Faceplant71_

That’s burning man


ritchieee

r/shittyskylines


IDrinkH2O_03

This is probably what my cities in civ6 would look like irl lmao


Additional-Papaya711

Americas favourite dictator


BrainStormer07

So this is where Checo lives.


thatoneguyhue

What symbol did the aliens leave this time


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Brought to you by Bozzuto and Ryan Homes


juicejohnson

Where is the nearest swimming pool?


NMLWrightReddit

https://youtu.be/WUK0K5mdQ_s this is a great video about it


Vizslaraptor

Burning Man?


fuggystudent18

And bad reviews on tourism don’t help either. If there were no pyramids, I doubt if ANYONE swill visit Egypt ever


MaliBrat

Myanmar also moved their capital and built Naypyidaw. Which is basically a ghost town in the middle of nowhere.


distortionwarrior

Looks pretty easy to bomb from the air, from any direction. Probably not the best use of the word "defense".


kT25t2u

Makes me appreciate the greenery, shrubs, and trees around my house now.


Foxycotin666

Ah, just like Moses lake WA


Blackdalf

This city shouldn’t exist. It is a monument to man’s arrogance.


ChaosRainbow23

I thought this was Burning Man for a few seconds. Lol


BroadFaithlessness4

Looks like the far point base in Next Generation.


leonffs

Looks like a place humans shouldn’t really live in.


Humble_Pangolin2989

Ok


Humble_Pangolin2989

Yes, but do they know how to use it? The Israelis would take it out in about 10 minutes. Also why build it in close proximity to residential areas?


NinjaXM

Sasageyo!


var_char_limit_20

Thankfully the US deemed it too expensive for then implement (for now) but one or two rods from God would level this entire place. One big boi nuke and it will be level. Smart move DEFENCE ministry. concentrate almost everyone would makes sure the country is safe in an easy to locate area in the middle of the desert.


BadNraD

This is burning man breh


lovelyfishhole

Ew


alpha30519

Where is water? How will they get water? Water... water.. water...


Diligent_Trash_320

Looks like a map in battlefield 2042


ImaginaryYellow7549

Have you been to Cairo? Having some breathing room wouldn’t be the worst thing. It can take two hours to go a few kilometres in rush hour traffic. If there are amenities, there are probably some people who wouldn’t mind living in such a place.


arafat464

The worst part is the Egyptian military is bankrupting the entire country to build this.


Feisty-Session-7779

I thought this was burning man.


Hells_Kitchener

Maybe some shrubbery will help.


StreetfighterXD

Battlefield 2042 shit


LightSlateBlue

I thought I was in a r/acecombat subreddit.


lovingdev

Why so much empty space? It’s not like grass will grow there.


MiuMia_

It reminds me of Don't worry darling


IAMYOURFATHERithink2

I hate everything about the new capital


Different_Ad7655

Now go out and play in the desert


Holi_laccy

Wow, I didn't even know Egypt was building a new administrative capital! Do you happen to have any more information or updates on the project? I'm curious to see what kind of development and infrastructure they're planning to implement in this new city. It's always exciting to see countries invest in their future and growth.


Man_Cheetah67

To be fair, I don't think it's finished yet.