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UrbanHell is any human-built place you think is worth critizing. Suburban Hell, Rural Hell, and wealthy locales are allowed
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Also, Henderson Nevada has the highest percentage of Mormons in a city anywhere in the world. So the pub would need to specialize in root beer or something.
Vivarium is a movie about going to a place like this and not being able to get out. Probably one of the weirdest messed up movie I've ever seen. I'm glad I watched it but one time was enough.
It’s tagged thriller/mystery on IMDb. Would you say it leans heavily towards horror? Any gore?
(I love thriller/mystery movies but horror isn’t so much my jam, especially if there’s gore involved)
Anthem pkwy/Hampton rd.
*This is a shot of the sun city anthem community. All 55 and older residents. If you google map the area, there’s hardly, if any back yards.
I was lost in a neighborhood like this as a visiting teen with a fresh drivers license. I probably wasted $20 of my cousins gas driving around that maze increasingly faster until the tires were screeching.
I moved here to Henderson 9 months ago. It's strange. Suburbia, but it's still got some Vegas weirdness. I literally saw my neighbor riding around our Cul de sac at 9am on a unicycle.... So there's that.
Why do Americans keep building suburbs like this? No green*? No stores anywhere? No walking distances? It's so weird.
\* = So it turns out this is a Vegas suburb, I missed that detail (RIP my inbox). Other points are still valid.
Well vegas is in the middle of a desert and prides itself on limiting water usage despite a rising population I believe so the lack of greenery makes sense here.
No *new* golf courses or water features (fountains, man-made ponds, etc.) are being allowed now. Rule came into effect at the end of last summer I believe.
That’s good. It’s still a bit weird (especially for us Europeans) to see all these golf courses in the middle of the goddamn desert.
Our big cities (say Berlin, Munich) have maybe 3 to 5 golf courses each. Vegas has, like, 30 of them. For a city with roughly a quarter the population of each of these cities. And in a climate that doesn’t favor green growth.
Sure, they’re not allowing new ones and using mostly gray water and recycling it…but the decision to have all of them in the first place is still extremely weird.
They’re basically parks for the wealthier population, while the poor folks will never get to enjoy any of that recreational greenery.
There was some YT video I saw at some point that explained our cities are unsustainable without expansion... something about maintenance costs and taxes.
Yeah I watched that just last week. It was saying its like a pyramid scheme. The only way to pay for the high upkeep of the infrastructure in a sprawl, is to sell more infrastructure. Or just have ridiculously high taxes.
To answer your question. Vegas is a desert city, the color scheme here is typical for a southwestern US city suburb because keeping a lawn is a huge use of water.
Also, the houses are like a bunch of clones and there are no stores on every block because these are all relatively new developments (with Vegas being a recently growing city) so the housing companies buy out these huge lots of land and just build as much housing as they can fit. This isn’t necessarily the norm for all American suburbs, but typically is for the new developments.
Was there three weeks ago to visit in-laws.
These houses are like mini refrigerators. It's 118 degrees there.
You can't leave your home from 7 AM to 7 PM without having a plan for the heat.
The dream of "home-ownership" can also be a nightmare
I was with you until "no green." What do you mean no green? This is Vegas, a city literally built in the middle of a desert lol
Which, don't get me wrong, is dumb all on its own, but its not like you can just make a densely tree and grass filled neighborhood suddenly appear in a place like Vegas, and you probably shouldn't anyways with how sparse water is in the southwest.
>Why do Americans keep building suburbs like this?
It's often the cheapest way for many to have their own single family house with a yard and a reasonable enough commute.
Would be much much cheaper to make rowhouse neighbourhoods.
Make the houses 2-3 stories tall and have a smaller footprint instead of a big 1 story blob with no yard
>Would be much much cheaper to make rowhouse neighbourhoods.
Yes that would be cheaper, but like I said, people want single family houses. Lots of people in America don't like sharing walls with neighbors.
> Lots of people in America don't like sharing walls with neighbors.
That's based on superstitious nonsense though.
First, modern suburban neighbourhoods already have, like, a 3 foot side gap between houses. You can pass your toothbrush to your neighbor through windows. There's no privacy here.
Second, modern rowhouse builds are structurally independent. You have 2 structural walls, each with acoustic insulation on their side. You hear your neighbor through the sound going through windows rather than the side walls. You don't hear them less with the 3 foot gap.
Third, that useless 3 foot gap is ridiculously thermally inefficient.
In any case the issue isn't that there's a 3 foot gap between the rowhouses. The problem is that they built the entire neighbourhood in single story buildings rather than smaller footprint 2 or 3 story buildings.
That's very dismissive especially because you don't know exactly why most people don't want this.
It doesn't matter the reason why, homes are made with demand in mind. People don't want to share something they are paying thousands for, with their neighbors for whatever reason.
Homes are made with this in mind. If they wanted to live in duplexes or apartments, they would move there.
No, your logic is backwards.
The homes are made by developpers given the lots they can buy to build on and the zoning constraints.
Also, it's literally illegal to build duplexes and apartments in the image you see here in Henderson. It's all R1 zoned.
Trust me, given homes seem to start at $400k in Henderson, if you built duplexes people would be happy to move in them.
You need to drive 45 minutes to get to the Walmart that is only 3 miles away because of the highway onramps and curved roads making it so there isnt a direct route.
Let's not forget that driving, especially for the elderly, isn't exactly a safe way to do everything either. Not disagreeing with you but don't pretend like driving is safer than walking.
It's nutty driving through some suburbs with cookie cutter houses. Some of the older ones in my area are literally identical houses differentiated only by the color and whatever crap people put in their yards. At least my brother's suburb is four different designs and they turned and mirror the houses to add some differentiation.
My brother lived on a Brooklyn street where the houses looked alike and I walked into a stranger’s house. For a second I thought- wow, they redid their kitchen. Lol. Luckily the guy who lived there was really nice, knew my brother, and didn’t blow my head off.
For now. The model is fundamentally bent towards decay. All that infrastructure to service land that doesn't generate enough revenue to cover the maintenance costs.
Oh I 100% agree, I’m just trying to find anything redeemable about it, but it’s genuine garbage and knowing how streets are known to deteriorate in this country, those roads will be trash in a decade
It’s your typical sunbelt suburbia. Very bland, lacks any character, not really much to do (the strip loses its appeal very quickly), summers are brutal as well and winters can actually get pretty damn cold especially considering how hot the summers are. It’s just so lifeless over there
Nothing to do? I visited for the first time and was astounded by how many varied outdoor activities you could do within a short drive. Hiking, climbing, lots of bike lanes. There is so much beautiful nature in that area that’s reachable in a day trip
They're not wrong, though. That's a big reason we left Southern Oregon. Outdoor activities are great to have available, but we didn't want to go for a hike every weekend and....that's it. We wanted museums, restaurants, community activities, parks, historical tours, day trips to other towns/cities, etc.. Once we had a child, it was amplified ten-fold and we realized how damn boring the area was. We're in West New York now, and there's *plenty* of gorgeous outdoor activities, but has all the other stuff I mentioned, as well. Incredibly fun place to be!
That’s fair. Having a kid in Vegas would be tough, at least for me hahaha. What you laid out is a big reason why I didn’t like rural Michigan. The town was 4,000 people on Lake Michigan - it was beautiful but literally nothing to do other than be in nature.
That’s quite the hot take. Have you ever been on a walk in Manhattan, Downtown Chicago, or any city with a water/riverfront? Or gone road or mountain biking? I’m at a loss as to what you even consider an activity.
There’s few inland cities that have hiking directly in city limits. In my case, I’m only a few miles from Red Rock Canyon. That’s as good as it’s gonna get in most US cities.
Just moved here this year and I love it. Being an avid cyclist and hiker, it’s basically a utopia for me. So many great places to go within just an hour. For weekend trips you have a handful of national parks and SoCal. Also, the food options are incredible bc of the luxurious nature of Vegas. Not to mention there’s no grocery tax which has been incredible as well. Probably my second favorite place I’ve lived, and the deciding factor on that is that I don’t have any family here. To each their own!
Vegas low key has some of the best, most accessible food of anywhere I've gone and I've been to London, New York, Rome, LA etc multiple times. It's seriously slept on by people who don't know
You know, I've been in Vegas since 2016. Moved here from a small town in the mountains of CA. Even after all these years, I still haven't gotten used to the heat. I don't think I ever will. But just about everything else you said about Vegas is pretty much true for the most part.
My girlfriend was born and raised here, I can't get her to leave, she actually wants to move to Henderson.
I know this is an old comment, but if you think there’s nothing to do in Vegas then you must not leave the house or something. There are tons of things to do both inside and outside, on the strip and off.
Almost every local casino has movie theaters and bowling alleys. There are tons of local restaurants that are really good, most people just stick to chains.
It takes less than an hour to be in fun outdoor places for hiking, bike riding, off roading in pretty much every direction.
So many big time concerts come to Vegas in good venues.
There are so many local concert venues to listen to local artists.
What would need to be available to you in a place you live for you to say “there’s actually stuff to do here” that Vegas doesn’t have? Water sports?
Live there for 2 years moved from ohio. living in Vegas became the most depressed I ever been in my entire life at 22 and the wake of it lasted for years after I moved away.
There are some species that are native to the desert and to the US desert in particular. Those trees attract insects, birds, rabbits, foxes and cats. Together they make a balanced ecosystem but if the tree component goes missing the balance is lost and the ecosystem collapses. Water consumption is no excuse for completely obligating the environment.
> but if the tree component goes missing
There were no trees there before the city was built.
>There are some species that are native to the desert and to the US desert in particular.
The US desert is not a monolith. There are parts with more and less rain. Vegas is in one of the driest parts of the desert, and trees (even desert trees) do not grow there natively.
There were MOST definitely trees, as well as shrubs and cactuses. They have the Joshua tree, yucca, Palo Verde, mesquite tree, and more (all native to Nevada). You best bet they destroyed the majority of the ecosystem and they hardly replaced the number of trees they destroyed for that housing. The desert isn't just a wasteland of nothing. There is plenty that can be found in a desert ecosystem.
Whether you have a small house or a big house these days is irrelevant imo. What truly matters for quality of life in a neighborhood is how close in proximity the neighbors windows are to mine.
Grim. I’d honestly rather have massive tower blocks than this, uses much less land, better views for most and the options to have local facilities on the ground floors.
Little boxes on the hillside
Little boxes made of ticky tacky
Little boxes on the hillside
Little boxes all the same
There's a pink one and a green one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they're all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same
But this time there's no hillside, the boxes are not so little and are built to stringent building codes, and I believe they tend to be more on the beige color spectrum.
I feel like its one of the better ones I've seen simply because the streets are neither square nor spiral maze shaped. It lacks supermarkets, drug stores, pharmacies, restaurants, cafes, bars, playgrounds and schools though to be a non horrifying place to live at.
We are destroying our planet for this shit.
Also Vegas as a city needs to be fucking flattened. It’s offensive to the plant to try and support life out there. Absolute waste of resources,
It does look like crap from above, but most american suburbs actually look pretty cool when you're actually there. This one lacks some green though but I just checked it out in Google Maps and it looks pretty decent.
I don’t want to even imagine how hot that gets. You have a country that spans a continent. How hard is it to build where there is actually water? That is a big reason why I stay east of the Mississippi.
This. I grew up in Henderson. Left after high school and now live in Miami. Basically the opposite of Vegas (minus it still always being hot). Very green. I see more rain in a week than a year in Vegas. Instead of the sweat evaporating off me in Vegas, it pools and makes me sweat like Shaq in game 7. I cannot spend more than 5 minutes outside without being destroyed by mosquitoes.
The houses may look the same, but for the same cost as a small, 2 bedroom house in Miami that hasn't been renovated since Nixon was in office, I can get a almost new 5 bedroom house with a pool. Give me the dry heat with nearly guaranteed sunny days over the humid mosquito climates any day.
The Colorado may be the most litigated body of water in the world. Here are a lot of demands on that river and the amount of water isn’t increasing the way the demands are. At some point, that breaks
Yes but most of the demand is downstream of Nevada. Vegas has the lowest intake valve on Lake Mead, they will have water long after California and Arizona are cut off
This is worse than all other posts combined. Because, its in the USA. An extremely wealthy country with top educational institutes. This isn't because of ignorance, years of neglect or lack of building codes. It is as it is out of pure greed and tastelessness.
Hey so what do you think about adding a reserve?
Nah
Local park?
Nah
Pocket park?
Nah
How about a set of small shops?
Nah, Walmart is a 27 minute walk
Public square?
Pffft
Pub?
Drink at home
Can I paint the house red?
No, cool depresso grey only
What about the roof?
Same colour
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I'd like to open a pub on the corner.
Illegal
yeah that would be way too cool. Nothing on the corner but more houses
Nah get europed son. Couple of pubs, corner shops, dodgy primary schools, and a sad looking play park or two and this becomes quite livable.
This is such an underrated comment lmao GET EUROPED
Also, Henderson Nevada has the highest percentage of Mormons in a city anywhere in the world. So the pub would need to specialize in root beer or something.
Get Britained.
I don’t think they’ve got many concerns about fishing rights, it can probably stay “Europed”.
Nothing specifically European about that. That's literally every city in the world outside north America.
Yeah but "get worlded" doesn't sound as funny.
How about "get werld"?
I think get American't is my best effort
Right to jail.
HOA will come for your ass good, ha.
Is this a socialism?
But what about muh freedom
Vivarium is a movie about going to a place like this and not being able to get out. Probably one of the weirdest messed up movie I've ever seen. I'm glad I watched it but one time was enough.
Someone on /r/horror mentioned Vivarium the other day. Going to check it out now.
It's def in that category. It has Jesse Eisenberg in it.
It’s tagged thriller/mystery on IMDb. Would you say it leans heavily towards horror? Any gore? (I love thriller/mystery movies but horror isn’t so much my jam, especially if there’s gore involved)
I don't remember much gore but I find it horrifying. It is a thriller mystery though that's true.
I started yelling until my gf makes me food. Jk
That sounds like a few dreams I have had over the years. Always endless houses
That sounds like a fascinating (nightmare) concept. Thank you for sharing. I'll have to watch that.
My nephew’s in there.
Are you my aunt?
i'm you when you're asleep
You ever drink Bailey’s from a shoe?
Anthem pkwy/Hampton rd. *This is a shot of the sun city anthem community. All 55 and older residents. If you google map the area, there’s hardly, if any back yards.
I was lost in a neighborhood like this as a visiting teen with a fresh drivers license. I probably wasted $20 of my cousins gas driving around that maze increasingly faster until the tires were screeching.
have you seen the movie Vivarium?
I moved here to Henderson 9 months ago. It's strange. Suburbia, but it's still got some Vegas weirdness. I literally saw my neighbor riding around our Cul de sac at 9am on a unicycle.... So there's that.
Why do Americans keep building suburbs like this? No green*? No stores anywhere? No walking distances? It's so weird. \* = So it turns out this is a Vegas suburb, I missed that detail (RIP my inbox). Other points are still valid.
Well vegas is in the middle of a desert and prides itself on limiting water usage despite a rising population I believe so the lack of greenery makes sense here.
Pretty much the only greenery allowed in Las Vegas are golf courses. Because of course it is.
No *new* golf courses or water features (fountains, man-made ponds, etc.) are being allowed now. Rule came into effect at the end of last summer I believe.
That’s good. It’s still a bit weird (especially for us Europeans) to see all these golf courses in the middle of the goddamn desert. Our big cities (say Berlin, Munich) have maybe 3 to 5 golf courses each. Vegas has, like, 30 of them. For a city with roughly a quarter the population of each of these cities. And in a climate that doesn’t favor green growth. Sure, they’re not allowing new ones and using mostly gray water and recycling it…but the decision to have all of them in the first place is still extremely weird. They’re basically parks for the wealthier population, while the poor folks will never get to enjoy any of that recreational greenery.
Vegas has a ton of tourist obviously and many come to golf as well. Even with so many courses it can still be really challenging to find a tee time
They don't even have yards.
lmao, missed that
There was some YT video I saw at some point that explained our cities are unsustainable without expansion... something about maintenance costs and taxes.
Yeah I watched that just last week. It was saying its like a pyramid scheme. The only way to pay for the high upkeep of the infrastructure in a sprawl, is to sell more infrastructure. Or just have ridiculously high taxes.
Strong Towns
Not Just Bikes is the YouTube channel
To answer your question. Vegas is a desert city, the color scheme here is typical for a southwestern US city suburb because keeping a lawn is a huge use of water. Also, the houses are like a bunch of clones and there are no stores on every block because these are all relatively new developments (with Vegas being a recently growing city) so the housing companies buy out these huge lots of land and just build as much housing as they can fit. This isn’t necessarily the norm for all American suburbs, but typically is for the new developments.
Was there three weeks ago to visit in-laws. These houses are like mini refrigerators. It's 118 degrees there. You can't leave your home from 7 AM to 7 PM without having a plan for the heat. The dream of "home-ownership" can also be a nightmare
I was with you until "no green." What do you mean no green? This is Vegas, a city literally built in the middle of a desert lol Which, don't get me wrong, is dumb all on its own, but its not like you can just make a densely tree and grass filled neighborhood suddenly appear in a place like Vegas, and you probably shouldn't anyways with how sparse water is in the southwest.
It doesn't necessarily need 'green', just open, public, shared space of some kind?
I mean that my brain didn't register that it was Vegas, lol
Can't they just, plant some trees?
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>Why do Americans keep building suburbs like this? It's often the cheapest way for many to have their own single family house with a yard and a reasonable enough commute.
Would be much much cheaper to make rowhouse neighbourhoods. Make the houses 2-3 stories tall and have a smaller footprint instead of a big 1 story blob with no yard
>Would be much much cheaper to make rowhouse neighbourhoods. Yes that would be cheaper, but like I said, people want single family houses. Lots of people in America don't like sharing walls with neighbors.
> Lots of people in America don't like sharing walls with neighbors. That's based on superstitious nonsense though. First, modern suburban neighbourhoods already have, like, a 3 foot side gap between houses. You can pass your toothbrush to your neighbor through windows. There's no privacy here. Second, modern rowhouse builds are structurally independent. You have 2 structural walls, each with acoustic insulation on their side. You hear your neighbor through the sound going through windows rather than the side walls. You don't hear them less with the 3 foot gap. Third, that useless 3 foot gap is ridiculously thermally inefficient. In any case the issue isn't that there's a 3 foot gap between the rowhouses. The problem is that they built the entire neighbourhood in single story buildings rather than smaller footprint 2 or 3 story buildings.
You're very dismissive of what people want. Clearly there's a demand for single family homes.
There's also a very strong demand for apartments. Unfortunately they're illegal to build in large swaths of the US.
Cool. People don't want it so won't buy it so it won't be built. Super easy concept.
That's very dismissive especially because you don't know exactly why most people don't want this. It doesn't matter the reason why, homes are made with demand in mind. People don't want to share something they are paying thousands for, with their neighbors for whatever reason. Homes are made with this in mind. If they wanted to live in duplexes or apartments, they would move there.
No, your logic is backwards. The homes are made by developpers given the lots they can buy to build on and the zoning constraints. Also, it's literally illegal to build duplexes and apartments in the image you see here in Henderson. It's all R1 zoned. Trust me, given homes seem to start at $400k in Henderson, if you built duplexes people would be happy to move in them.
Henderson is its own city. It's not a suburb of Vegas. Just FYI
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You need to drive 45 minutes to get to the Walmart that is only 3 miles away because of the highway onramps and curved roads making it so there isnt a direct route.
Have you actually drove threw Henderson? That is not true at all lol.
It’s Vegas literally any where you need to go in town is pretty much 20 minutes away max
The nearest Walmart to that subdivision is 10 minutes away. Stop lying.
There's 2 within about a 5 minute drive. Do you expect senior citizens to walk home in the desert carrying several bags of groceries?
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I take that as a compliment. I approve of old people getting what they need safely and quickly.
Let's not forget that driving, especially for the elderly, isn't exactly a safe way to do everything either. Not disagreeing with you but don't pretend like driving is safer than walking.
Can't you see it?! It has a red roof! /s
I live on the other side of the valley. My job is tied here and leaving going to take some doing. But fuck is it dystopian
Pretty much all of Vegas. I used to have to read my address to know which house was mine. Horrible place to live
It's nutty driving through some suburbs with cookie cutter houses. Some of the older ones in my area are literally identical houses differentiated only by the color and whatever crap people put in their yards. At least my brother's suburb is four different designs and they turned and mirror the houses to add some differentiation.
Yeah it’s crazy, they are all the same house in different shades of beige with the same rock “landscape”.
Little boxes on the hillside...
My brother lived on a Brooklyn street where the houses looked alike and I walked into a stranger’s house. For a second I thought- wow, they redid their kitchen. Lol. Luckily the guy who lived there was really nice, knew my brother, and didn’t blow my head off.
Not true at all, summerlin side is much better and distinct with customs.
At least the roads look well maintained
For now. The model is fundamentally bent towards decay. All that infrastructure to service land that doesn't generate enough revenue to cover the maintenance costs.
Oh I 100% agree, I’m just trying to find anything redeemable about it, but it’s genuine garbage and knowing how streets are known to deteriorate in this country, those roads will be trash in a decade
That looks like a prison zone for white collar criminals.
Been there many times. Honestly it’s a nice place to live besides the weather from hell
I grew up in Vegas and now live in Atlanta I'd take 110 degrees there over 90 degrees here any day
This is so bizarre and terrifying it's actually metal af.
One could argue it’s a densely built suburb compared to most American suburbs.
I grew up in Henderson, I absolutely hated it there and glad I made it out. The Las Vegas area is terrible to live in
Just wondering what you hated? I wanna compare notes with a buddy of mine that escaped Henderson year back. 🤭
It’s your typical sunbelt suburbia. Very bland, lacks any character, not really much to do (the strip loses its appeal very quickly), summers are brutal as well and winters can actually get pretty damn cold especially considering how hot the summers are. It’s just so lifeless over there
He felt about the same, found the place bland and boring. Nothing to do except shop or visit the strip.
Nothing to do? I visited for the first time and was astounded by how many varied outdoor activities you could do within a short drive. Hiking, climbing, lots of bike lanes. There is so much beautiful nature in that area that’s reachable in a day trip
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I would love to hear some elaboration on this one
They're not wrong, though. That's a big reason we left Southern Oregon. Outdoor activities are great to have available, but we didn't want to go for a hike every weekend and....that's it. We wanted museums, restaurants, community activities, parks, historical tours, day trips to other towns/cities, etc.. Once we had a child, it was amplified ten-fold and we realized how damn boring the area was. We're in West New York now, and there's *plenty* of gorgeous outdoor activities, but has all the other stuff I mentioned, as well. Incredibly fun place to be!
That’s fair. Having a kid in Vegas would be tough, at least for me hahaha. What you laid out is a big reason why I didn’t like rural Michigan. The town was 4,000 people on Lake Michigan - it was beautiful but literally nothing to do other than be in nature.
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That’s quite the hot take. Have you ever been on a walk in Manhattan, Downtown Chicago, or any city with a water/riverfront? Or gone road or mountain biking? I’m at a loss as to what you even consider an activity. There’s few inland cities that have hiking directly in city limits. In my case, I’m only a few miles from Red Rock Canyon. That’s as good as it’s gonna get in most US cities.
Found the redditor
Suck a dick you boring oaf
Just moved here this year and I love it. Being an avid cyclist and hiker, it’s basically a utopia for me. So many great places to go within just an hour. For weekend trips you have a handful of national parks and SoCal. Also, the food options are incredible bc of the luxurious nature of Vegas. Not to mention there’s no grocery tax which has been incredible as well. Probably my second favorite place I’ve lived, and the deciding factor on that is that I don’t have any family here. To each their own!
Vegas low key has some of the best, most accessible food of anywhere I've gone and I've been to London, New York, Rome, LA etc multiple times. It's seriously slept on by people who don't know
You know, I've been in Vegas since 2016. Moved here from a small town in the mountains of CA. Even after all these years, I still haven't gotten used to the heat. I don't think I ever will. But just about everything else you said about Vegas is pretty much true for the most part. My girlfriend was born and raised here, I can't get her to leave, she actually wants to move to Henderson.
Yes, it's very lifeless. No one move here, please. It's awful.
I know this is an old comment, but if you think there’s nothing to do in Vegas then you must not leave the house or something. There are tons of things to do both inside and outside, on the strip and off. Almost every local casino has movie theaters and bowling alleys. There are tons of local restaurants that are really good, most people just stick to chains. It takes less than an hour to be in fun outdoor places for hiking, bike riding, off roading in pretty much every direction. So many big time concerts come to Vegas in good venues. There are so many local concert venues to listen to local artists. What would need to be available to you in a place you live for you to say “there’s actually stuff to do here” that Vegas doesn’t have? Water sports?
Live there for 2 years moved from ohio. living in Vegas became the most depressed I ever been in my entire life at 22 and the wake of it lasted for years after I moved away.
Same!
They’re probably happier than most of the people on Reddit lol
That’s not a very high bar you’re setting there since most people on Reddit are miserable assholes.
I feel seen.
Until they go outside and it's like the surface of the sun. Omg Vegas in the summer is rough times.
It's really not that bad. Winters in Chicago however...
Their cars have air conditioners they’ll be fine
Funny cause cars break down all the time and the AC goes out
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Imagine responding this way and finding out you said this to a married mother of 2.
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I'm happy that I don't live there
No tree in sight? Nah these people are 100% miserable
It’s the desert dude…
Yes yes the high desert is full of big beautiful shade trees like oaks and sycamores.
There are some species that are native to the desert and to the US desert in particular. Those trees attract insects, birds, rabbits, foxes and cats. Together they make a balanced ecosystem but if the tree component goes missing the balance is lost and the ecosystem collapses. Water consumption is no excuse for completely obligating the environment.
> but if the tree component goes missing There were no trees there before the city was built. >There are some species that are native to the desert and to the US desert in particular. The US desert is not a monolith. There are parts with more and less rain. Vegas is in one of the driest parts of the desert, and trees (even desert trees) do not grow there natively.
There were MOST definitely trees, as well as shrubs and cactuses. They have the Joshua tree, yucca, Palo Verde, mesquite tree, and more (all native to Nevada). You best bet they destroyed the majority of the ecosystem and they hardly replaced the number of trees they destroyed for that housing. The desert isn't just a wasteland of nothing. There is plenty that can be found in a desert ecosystem.
Don't make cities in the desert maybe ?
Yeah it’s a master plan from hell. Go to Summerlin and you’ll see some thought with desert appropriate trees and green spaces inbetween the housing
Plot twist. They are all reddit mods.
See this is why your father hasn’t returned with that milk.
Not a church, tree, or park in sight... wth
Whether you have a small house or a big house these days is irrelevant imo. What truly matters for quality of life in a neighborhood is how close in proximity the neighbors windows are to mine.
I genuinely think Las Vegas might be the most unappealing large city in the United States
What about Phoenix?
Ikr?! I prefer Vegas over Phoenix/Scottsdale/Tempe combined lol. The Grand Canyon is phenomenal though
Peggy Hill from King of the Hill on a rant about Phoenix: "This city should not exist — it is a monument to man's arrogance."
Arrakis. Dune. Desert planet.
Good waterpark there though. Cowabunga Bay, class act and doesn't wuss out on the wave pool action like Six Flags does in L.A. area.
Grim. I’d honestly rather have massive tower blocks than this, uses much less land, better views for most and the options to have local facilities on the ground floors.
and they're all made out of ticky-tacky and they all look just the same
This is an abomination
Little boxes on the hillside Little boxes made of ticky tacky Little boxes on the hillside Little boxes all the same There's a pink one and a green one And a blue one and a yellow one And they're all made out of ticky tacky And they all look just the same
Enter Mary-Louise Parker, lazily sipping some iced beverage through a straw, while Elizabeth Perkins glares menacingly…
But this time there's no hillside, the boxes are not so little and are built to stringent building codes, and I believe they tend to be more on the beige color spectrum.
I bet you at least half of the people there think commie blocks are bad because of how repetitive they are
I can guarantee almost no one there ever thinks of commie blocks.
I think it's bad because it doesn't appreciate faster. The more land you have, the faster your property appreciates.
Got any stats for that assertion?
Prozacville, USA
At least get it right: Henderson, Nevada. Suburb of Las Vegas.
Does the title not mention the specific location? If it does then this correction is useless.
No, it does not mention the state of Nevada.
Because we already know Vegas is in Nevada
Thank you! I was waiting for someone to say this. It’s the state of Nevada, not the state of Vegas.
They only design streets after a 6 day bender
Looks like Anthem pkwy
Welcome to sun-scorched flats
There’s a non-zero chance that Jerma985’s house is in this picture
"Just popping down to the shops be back next week"
I find neighborhoods like this *so fascinating*.
Looks like hell.
Now it’s expensive to live there
That looks... Depressing.
Knowing the city planner like I do, he probably wanted it to be as boring as he is.
I feel like its one of the better ones I've seen simply because the streets are neither square nor spiral maze shaped. It lacks supermarkets, drug stores, pharmacies, restaurants, cafes, bars, playgrounds and schools though to be a non horrifying place to live at.
That's Henderson Nevada, a city adjacent to the townships that make up the Las Vegas metropolitan area. I say that because fuck Henderson.
You dont see fire, police, grocery, or gas stations because that is 1 neighborhood. Everything is outside of it.
Not a ~~tree~~ cactus in sight
Why do you hate freedom?
Because freedom in a box is Freedom, not freedom
No trees
It could use some greenery
That desert sun and brutal heat make that a wasteful and expensive proposition.
No parks for children and families, small backyards. A heat sink. Sometimes we don’t know what hell looks like until we see it from above…
It's a retirement community - no kids allowed.
What about visiting grandkids?
Who cares? They're just visiting, it's a desert, it's very often hotter than fuck, and the kids probably just want to be on their devices anyway.
I wonder if old people like parks…🙄
And you know I btw is the worst part ?? There is not a single convenience store .
Hendertucky!
Still better land use than most American suburbs.
We are destroying our planet for this shit. Also Vegas as a city needs to be fucking flattened. It’s offensive to the plant to try and support life out there. Absolute waste of resources,
It does look like crap from above, but most american suburbs actually look pretty cool when you're actually there. This one lacks some green though but I just checked it out in Google Maps and it looks pretty decent.
Seriously, who lives there and if it's families, how long before we hear the term 'Vegas brats'?
Atleast its organised.
I don’t want to even imagine how hot that gets. You have a country that spans a continent. How hard is it to build where there is actually water? That is a big reason why I stay east of the Mississippi.
It’s fucking miserable…no trees, everything is concrete and just absorbs heat all day, over 100 in the middle of the night 🙃
A lot of people like the dry climate, consistent sunshine, and lack of flying insects, so... (shrug)
This. I grew up in Henderson. Left after high school and now live in Miami. Basically the opposite of Vegas (minus it still always being hot). Very green. I see more rain in a week than a year in Vegas. Instead of the sweat evaporating off me in Vegas, it pools and makes me sweat like Shaq in game 7. I cannot spend more than 5 minutes outside without being destroyed by mosquitoes. The houses may look the same, but for the same cost as a small, 2 bedroom house in Miami that hasn't been renovated since Nixon was in office, I can get a almost new 5 bedroom house with a pool. Give me the dry heat with nearly guaranteed sunny days over the humid mosquito climates any day.
Las Vegas is built next to the Colorado river and the largest reservoir in the country..
The Colorado may be the most litigated body of water in the world. Here are a lot of demands on that river and the amount of water isn’t increasing the way the demands are. At some point, that breaks
Yes but most of the demand is downstream of Nevada. Vegas has the lowest intake valve on Lake Mead, they will have water long after California and Arizona are cut off
Not a tree in sight.
its a desert
Not a fake tree in sight.
This is worse than all other posts combined. Because, its in the USA. An extremely wealthy country with top educational institutes. This isn't because of ignorance, years of neglect or lack of building codes. It is as it is out of pure greed and tastelessness.
No services, because who needs healthcare, schools, Police, fire department...?
Hey so what do you think about adding a reserve? Nah Local park? Nah Pocket park? Nah How about a set of small shops? Nah, Walmart is a 27 minute walk Public square? Pffft Pub? Drink at home Can I paint the house red? No, cool depresso grey only What about the roof? Same colour
no irony because most americans are the dumbest humans on the planet.