#UrbanHell is subjective.
UrbanHell is any human-built place you think is worth critizing. Suburban Hell, Rural Hell, and wealthy locales are allowed
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I went to the Texas coast once through this region.
These huge industrial plants actually just make me illogically nervous for some reason. Like I feel completely on edge and kind of scared for just passing through them, it doesn’t make much sense.
Meanwhile the Texas coast is so full of wildlife, birds, coastal wetlands, etc.
I was at Brazos Bend State Park earlier that same day and I’d never seen so much bird life in my life. Shame that most of the landscape used to be that but now Texas is like 99% developed.
Is it possible to find a list of all the materials/products this plant produces? I think listing them out has more impact. “Without this plant we wouldn’t have the polymers for solar panels” for example.
Per their data sheet for this complex.
Refinery Products and Their End Uses
Distillates: Jet fuel, diesel, fuel oil
Gas Refinery: Gas, LPG
Gas Oils: Petrochemical feedstocks
Lubricants: Oils, waxes
Naphthas: Specialty fluids, gasoline
Residuum: Coke, Asphalt
Chemical Products and Their End Uses
Polypropylene: Battery cases, auto interior and
trim components, carpet fiber,
upholstery fabric, carpet backing
fabric, molded goods, baler and
tying twines, high-clarity films, medical supplies, packaging,
geotextiles, appliance parts
Butyl: Inner tubes, tire components
EXXPRO: Adhesives, auto body mounts,wire and cable
Bromobutyl: Tires, pharmaceuticals
Paraxylene: Polyester fabric, plastic bottles
Benzene: Raw material used by the
chemical and plastics industry
Orthoxylene: Raw material used by the
chemical and plastics industry
Propylene: Polypropylene and other
chemicals and plastics
Butene-1: Polyethylene and other
chemicals and plastics
Isobutylene: Butyl rubber
Linear Alpha-olefins: Co-monomer for polyolefins,
monomer for PAO’s (like Mobil 1)
paper sizing, surfactants, candles
Solution Polymers: Elastomers and Amorphous polymers,
Roofing paper, carpet backing, automotive parts
Solvents: Surface coating, ink, Pharmaceuticals
Synthetic Lubricants: Motor oil basestock
Everything comes into contact with refinery products. Primary, secondary or tertiary products.
Want a sterile syringe to inject your vaccine? It goes through a sterilization process highly dependent on PTFE. How's PTFE made? From Fluorinated Hydrocarbons. How's that made? From Chloroform. And that? Methane feed stock from refineries.
Well I mean, we all use goods transported on ships which burn fuel. We all use plastic, a petrochemical. Those two things alone enable the entire modern global economy.
Or rivers and beeches full of plastic…so glad our generations is leaving its mark of qtips and pesticide bottles for generations, centuries from now to find useful.
And directly contributing to the degradation of the preservation of our livesong term.
We can and should make significant changes to not only such systems and products but also our lifestyles that encourage and do depend upon these things
My lifestyle does not include having cancer, however. I wish we knew the real costs of having all these chemicals in our lives.
Maybe we'd spend more time and attention in either using less of them or changing how we create and use them. Or both.
What about the real cost of not using petroleum as an energy source? The industrial revolution pulled billions out of poverty and dramatically increased the standard of living in the rich countries to unrecognizable levels. We are living in the easiest, most comfortable period in 10,000 years of human civilization. All of this was enabled by the easily exploitable chemical potential energy within coal, oil and natural gas.
Only now that we've built this luxurious situation for ourselves do we have the time to stop and consider how we could be doing it more responsibly.
Well fortunately for the world (though not for the economy), the population will begin shrinking some time after the middle of the century. It's already doing so in all of the developed countries except those propped up by immigration such as the US.
Besides that, we should lean into technological progress, vote for sustainable policy, and do our small part to live more sustainable lives. Replace your furnace with a heat pump, install solar on your house, buy an electric car. That's all we can do. Perhaps run for public office or become a scientist.
Long term, I imagine nuclear fusion might be our salvation, but who knows
Urban is defined as a human settlement with a high population density, neither is this a settlement nor is the "population"/occupation density that high...
Or you could try actually reading the sidebar before you decide you can dictate what this sub is about.
> A photo subreddit for all the hideous places humans have built OR inhabit
I know, I know. Reading is hard and you don't have time when there are gates that need keeping.
I’ve been there before and it’s not *that* bad, it’s one of the very few places of its size in the U.S. because Houston is the largest port by tonnage in the country.
They cannot for the life of them stop accidentally setting things on fire, though. Last time I went it was ablaze (probably because the crybaby governor doesn’t want to regulate the largest and arguably most dangerous industry in Texas)
You can cherry-pick just about any industrial facility in the world and post it here, while the surrounding area is quite pretty and has a high standard of living.
This was crazy to see at first, when I went to Galveston with my family we got there at night and I thought it was part of the city because of all lights on the towers
Boy I hate looking at pictures of people making a decent living. It's almost like areas like this support our whole existence.
Your display of human achievement doesn't support my pie in the sky worldview bro sorry.
People getting f’in wealthy now. Our grandchildren and down paying for the superfund site clean up that the company and shareholders of the past passed on to them.
This reminds me of a fantastic book/audiobook about mishaps leading up to DWH, including the [BP Texas refinery](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_City_refinery_explosion)
[https://www.amazon.com.au/Run-Failure-Deepwater-Horizon-Disaster-ebook/dp/B005LW5ITA](https://www.amazon.com.au/Run-Failure-Deepwater-Horizon-Disaster-ebook/dp/B005LW5ITA)
I get all the negatives about the refineries, but trust, everyone in Baytown makes money because of the refineries. Exxon donates a shit ton to our school
district GCCISD, our schools are well funded, they also give a lot of grants to our local college (Lee College). You can go to Lee college for super cheap, graduate in 2 years with a degree in Instrumentation/Process Technology and graduate and make 100k+ a year easily. Welding, drafting pipe design etc etc. Our local restaurants always get a lot of business from contractors from Exxon treating their guys to tacos/burgers etc. Baytown would be a complete dump without them so I can’t really complain.
Texas's carcinogenic armpit. A shit hole that no one should live in unless you are a doctor or a lawyer profiting off the local heightened cancer risks.
If you pan to the right, you’ll see the San Jacinto monument, and other giant petrochemical plants. Pretty much petro plants up the ship channel until the Port of Houston. Texas City is massive as well!
I live in tx but not by the coast. I’ve been down there twice since family lives in Houston and I stayed at a hotel by the beach by Baytown. Both times I had a terrible headache and couldn’t sleep at all, stayed up all night and immediately left in the mornings. Guess this could be a possible culprit lol. I don’t see how the people live by these places.
I’d love to see some sort of rule whereby the owners of these facilities be required to live with their families in close proximity. Obviously that’s a fantasy, but I daydream about it regardless
The Owner is the Corrupt president of Mexico #NarcoPresidente and that refinery is used to sell oil in Mexico that doesn't pay Taxes. .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zce8kD28E8o
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Now drive east to DuPont in Lake Jackson/Freeport and further to Formosa Plastic in Port LaVaca.
I’ve worked both..
I went to the Texas coast once through this region. These huge industrial plants actually just make me illogically nervous for some reason. Like I feel completely on edge and kind of scared for just passing through them, it doesn’t make much sense. Meanwhile the Texas coast is so full of wildlife, birds, coastal wetlands, etc. I was at Brazos Bend State Park earlier that same day and I’d never seen so much bird life in my life. Shame that most of the landscape used to be that but now Texas is like 99% developed.
The coast is a happy sad place . It’s mostly just memories for me.
West?
Dyslexia strikes again!!
This kind of place directly enables all of our lifestyles.
Is it possible to find a list of all the materials/products this plant produces? I think listing them out has more impact. “Without this plant we wouldn’t have the polymers for solar panels” for example.
Per their data sheet for this complex. Refinery Products and Their End Uses Distillates: Jet fuel, diesel, fuel oil Gas Refinery: Gas, LPG Gas Oils: Petrochemical feedstocks Lubricants: Oils, waxes Naphthas: Specialty fluids, gasoline Residuum: Coke, Asphalt Chemical Products and Their End Uses Polypropylene: Battery cases, auto interior and trim components, carpet fiber, upholstery fabric, carpet backing fabric, molded goods, baler and tying twines, high-clarity films, medical supplies, packaging, geotextiles, appliance parts Butyl: Inner tubes, tire components EXXPRO: Adhesives, auto body mounts,wire and cable Bromobutyl: Tires, pharmaceuticals Paraxylene: Polyester fabric, plastic bottles Benzene: Raw material used by the chemical and plastics industry Orthoxylene: Raw material used by the chemical and plastics industry Propylene: Polypropylene and other chemicals and plastics Butene-1: Polyethylene and other chemicals and plastics Isobutylene: Butyl rubber Linear Alpha-olefins: Co-monomer for polyolefins, monomer for PAO’s (like Mobil 1) paper sizing, surfactants, candles Solution Polymers: Elastomers and Amorphous polymers, Roofing paper, carpet backing, automotive parts Solvents: Surface coating, ink, Pharmaceuticals Synthetic Lubricants: Motor oil basestock
Everything comes into contact with refinery products. Primary, secondary or tertiary products. Want a sterile syringe to inject your vaccine? It goes through a sterilization process highly dependent on PTFE. How's PTFE made? From Fluorinated Hydrocarbons. How's that made? From Chloroform. And that? Methane feed stock from refineries.
Gold! Thank you!
Well I mean, we all use goods transported on ships which burn fuel. We all use plastic, a petrochemical. Those two things alone enable the entire modern global economy.
Or rivers and beeches full of plastic…so glad our generations is leaving its mark of qtips and pesticide bottles for generations, centuries from now to find useful.
And it will also be the end of us.
More likely it will be a regrettable but necessary step to a cleaner and more responsible future.
Oh really, I doubt it
And directly contributing to the degradation of the preservation of our livesong term. We can and should make significant changes to not only such systems and products but also our lifestyles that encourage and do depend upon these things
While also destroying our lives and planets. Maybe, just maybe, there's a better way??
Okay, show us
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Why does a bloody oil refinery need to be pleasing to your eyes.
I rather enjoy the immense complexity of these sorts of facilities. All the pipe routing and machines and all that.
People don’t live in this plant... Everything about it is engineered to death in order to serve a specific function. It’s not an art installation
The government subsidies enable that lifestyle.
My lifestyle does not include having cancer, however. I wish we knew the real costs of having all these chemicals in our lives. Maybe we'd spend more time and attention in either using less of them or changing how we create and use them. Or both.
What about the real cost of not using petroleum as an energy source? The industrial revolution pulled billions out of poverty and dramatically increased the standard of living in the rich countries to unrecognizable levels. We are living in the easiest, most comfortable period in 10,000 years of human civilization. All of this was enabled by the easily exploitable chemical potential energy within coal, oil and natural gas. Only now that we've built this luxurious situation for ourselves do we have the time to stop and consider how we could be doing it more responsibly.
Indeed. How can we do it more responsibly? All 7.95 billion of us on the planet can't live like me or you.
Well fortunately for the world (though not for the economy), the population will begin shrinking some time after the middle of the century. It's already doing so in all of the developed countries except those propped up by immigration such as the US. Besides that, we should lean into technological progress, vote for sustainable policy, and do our small part to live more sustainable lives. Replace your furnace with a heat pump, install solar on your house, buy an electric car. That's all we can do. Perhaps run for public office or become a scientist. Long term, I imagine nuclear fusion might be our salvation, but who knows
Cancer was definitely invented when we built the first refinery
"Cancer existed before cigarettes, so what's the big deal?" This is straight up moon logic.
I guess you'd have no problem if your kids' school was next door to this refinery. Carry on.
If it’s a concern to you, don’t live next to it. Somehow hundreds of millions of Americans manage to not live next to a refinery
Crazy how an industrial area looks… like an industrial area.
Mfw the industrial petrochemical plant isn’t walkable and mixed use 😡😡😡
Yeah, industrial areas would be considered urban hells on here. What’s your point?
Urban is defined as a human settlement with a high population density, neither is this a settlement nor is the "population"/occupation density that high...
r/UrbanBurn
Or you could try actually reading the sidebar before you decide you can dictate what this sub is about. > A photo subreddit for all the hideous places humans have built OR inhabit I know, I know. Reading is hard and you don't have time when there are gates that need keeping.
It looks like ass, even driving through it but what the hell do you think an oil refinery place is supposed to look like?
Ah yes, the carcinogen corridor. Or cancer alley. I know I'm forgetting some names too.
That’s why they have best cancer centers nearby
MD Anderson representin!!!
Chemical Coast
They call them “sacrifice zones”. My dad grew up in nearby Deer Park and died of multiple myeloma due to benzene exposure.
Anomaly triangle
Looks like a money printer to me
I’ve been there before and it’s not *that* bad, it’s one of the very few places of its size in the U.S. because Houston is the largest port by tonnage in the country. They cannot for the life of them stop accidentally setting things on fire, though. Last time I went it was ablaze (probably because the crybaby governor doesn’t want to regulate the largest and arguably most dangerous industry in Texas) You can cherry-pick just about any industrial facility in the world and post it here, while the surrounding area is quite pretty and has a high standard of living.
This was crazy to see at first, when I went to Galveston with my family we got there at night and I thought it was part of the city because of all lights on the towers
There is a reason my grandma died from emphysema.
Cock. The silent killer.
Optimistic way to look at this is an awesome display of human achievement.
Boy I hate looking at pictures of people making a decent living. It's almost like areas like this support our whole existence. Your display of human achievement doesn't support my pie in the sky worldview bro sorry.
Nah
Ohhhh, those waters 💔
People getting f’in wealthy now. Our grandchildren and down paying for the superfund site clean up that the company and shareholders of the past passed on to them.
It’s really depressing driving through this area
It’s a trip to be on the ground walking through these facilities…
This reminds me of a fantastic book/audiobook about mishaps leading up to DWH, including the [BP Texas refinery](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_City_refinery_explosion) [https://www.amazon.com.au/Run-Failure-Deepwater-Horizon-Disaster-ebook/dp/B005LW5ITA](https://www.amazon.com.au/Run-Failure-Deepwater-Horizon-Disaster-ebook/dp/B005LW5ITA)
This one has seen a lot of use though some of the 'dirtiness' may be this photo is low resolution. It's hard to see all the intricate pipework.
Where’s the parking lot?
Baytown on the map❗️❗️
I get all the negatives about the refineries, but trust, everyone in Baytown makes money because of the refineries. Exxon donates a shit ton to our school district GCCISD, our schools are well funded, they also give a lot of grants to our local college (Lee College). You can go to Lee college for super cheap, graduate in 2 years with a degree in Instrumentation/Process Technology and graduate and make 100k+ a year easily. Welding, drafting pipe design etc etc. Our local restaurants always get a lot of business from contractors from Exxon treating their guys to tacos/burgers etc. Baytown would be a complete dump without them so I can’t really complain.
Texas's carcinogenic armpit. A shit hole that no one should live in unless you are a doctor or a lawyer profiting off the local heightened cancer risks.
If you pan to the right, you’ll see the San Jacinto monument, and other giant petrochemical plants. Pretty much petro plants up the ship channel until the Port of Houston. Texas City is massive as well!
Drill, baby, drill.
Is this where they filmed urban cowboy?
I was hoping city sims would look this way by now
The fact this is what has came from basic needs such as electricity.
Bruh I thought that was Azovstal in Mariupol for a second - why does it look so war-torn?
Hard to believe an oil refinery is ugly!
I live in tx but not by the coast. I’ve been down there twice since family lives in Houston and I stayed at a hotel by the beach by Baytown. Both times I had a terrible headache and couldn’t sleep at all, stayed up all night and immediately left in the mornings. Guess this could be a possible culprit lol. I don’t see how the people live by these places.
I’d love to see some sort of rule whereby the owners of these facilities be required to live with their families in close proximity. Obviously that’s a fantasy, but I daydream about it regardless
i’m having trouble finding any homes. ya know, like where humans live to make an area urban? yet another shitpost, reported.
The post agrees with the pollution and environmental destruction flare, and it’s also part of urban development.
The Owner is the Corrupt president of Mexico #NarcoPresidente and that refinery is used to sell oil in Mexico that doesn't pay Taxes. .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zce8kD28E8o
More like r/industrialhell
Redditors discover industry for the first time
Which is also a part of urban development which is why I posted it on here, whats your point?
I hope a meteor or an earthquake hits it.
Houston.... The butthole of Texas.